>>104607122
because Pippa pandered to chuds from day 1,

>>104607144
She didn't. She did a few clued in streams and the Alex Jones chuds flooded in. She's been open about being a libertarian bisexual the whole time.

>>104607122
I also blame the vshojo trickery to a lesser degree.
But generally speaking. "Chuds" are kissless, friendless sad sacks

>>104607122
why isnt this centered properly

>>104607122
not that surprising considering the main selling point is that its a menhera clusterfuck

>>104607507
I blame the clippers for pippa being seen as some political vtuber.

>>104607122
They didn't, they're just the worst fanbase that still comes here because the nijis mostly left

>>104607122
NTR corpo

They definitely have been disappointing lately...

>>104607792
Anon, Pippa/Sakana hired the main Phase clippers to do exactly that. She got what she wanted.

>>104607144
I can't take anyone using chud as a word without heavy irony seriously and refuse to believe such people exist on this website.

>>104607507
Pippa created Kirsche tho, Fat IRL and with one of the most cheap and disgusting model in all of vtubing

>>104607144
/thread

>>104607144
Can you blame her tho? Right wing incels are the easiest way to win money as a Vtuber

>>104608288
Yeah, but idea on the long term though. Specially for a corpo. Pippa would have been better on her own. A lot of the phase girls are basic liberal young women that now have to wrangle a chud audience.

>>104608105
Can I just let me be bitter about it?

>>104607144
Pippa
Kirsche
Alana
Leaflit
and Rev are what's holding EN vtubing together these days

>>104607533
Because they lean right.

>>104607122
By catering to the faggots at Kiwi Farms.

>>104608686
I agree with all of them but Pippa and Maybe Alana
The rest are only Vtuber because they're too ugly to find success as flesh streamers

How you view Phaseconnect fanbase is how I view the entire English vtuber fandom.

>>104607122
But enough about hololive

>>104607122
At this point I think liggers are more annoying

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>>104609018

>>104607122
Two words
>Pippa

I make money off phasecucks (I get comissioned to draw NTR content even though I don't even have NTR stuff on my twitter)
Obviously not gonna say who I am but they're giving me money so they're good cucks in my book
Wanna know which girls gets the most comissions? Its panko and pippa. 3rd guy now told me to draw NTR scenarios of panko. I was like wtf man theres something wrong with phasefriends

>>104609348
Sample of your work?

>>104609381
https://files.catbox.moe/he6pxf.jpg

>>104609348
Does Nimi get commissions?

>>104608686
Rev and Leaflit.
Wish them long success.

>>104607144
fpbp

>>104609597
Not NTR ones so far, no

>>104608288
They are the easiest group to grift money from,, but they're almost the most neurotic and constantly demand purity tests, even more than hardcore unicorns.
There's a reason one of the rules for indies that start on 4chan is, if you start to grow, drop pandering directly to 4chan.

>>104607122
Thats still hololive.

>>104608179
Wonder if fish is going to order Ketchup the hutt to be blacklisted after her latest attack on Phase.
Surprised he didn't do it after the shit she pulled at OffKai.

>>104609203
this fucking brazilian tranny I swear...

>>104608686
then EN vtubing should just die.

>>104609817
what did she do?

>>104610622
Is trying to cancel one of the phase girls by actually calling on people to report her to the government by distorting what she said.

>>104610755
That's sad.
Man I enjoyed Kirsche in Phase collabs but any time I tried watching her on her own she was just yapping about politics. Who the fuck cares you're an entertainer you dumbass.

The only one I liked was Uruka and now all she does is soulless goner bait and spam violin shorts. And she’s become the dime a dozen “ew my fans are all disgusting idiots” streamer.

>>104610622
https://streamable.com/nja6s6

>>104607122
by some rooster and lord-m and their community

>>104610836
Is it shocking? She's always been /pol/ shill, and actually drinks the kool-aid, as opposed to pippa who's just grifting them.

>>104610992
>Is it shocking?
it's not, just disappointing
>pippa who's just grifting them
Pippa rarely if ever talks about politics, which makes her infinitely better than Kirsche

>>104611015
She will if her numbers start to sag, but she used to, and we had that leak where she told some other vtubers to pander to right wingers to boost their own numbers

>>104607144
This, i remember when she gave a shout out to kf and told tenma to do the same thing.

>>104610622
>>104610836
>>104611015
It was so hilarious
>Ketchup the Hutt says she wont be a pussy and avoid the issue like Rima or whoever it was did
>Spergs out about how blue retard would probably celebrate if she, Ketchup the Hutt was murdered
>Not paying attention in the slightest that this whole thing is just blue retard's helpless midlife crisis breakdown which means less than a chihuahua barking at an excavator
>Drags her friend's company and all of her friend's coworkers into the mud pit with her reach without a second of hesitation anyway

>>104607507
she was screaming about kekistan in like her second week of being hyper blatantly /here/

>>104607122
That's not NijiEn.

pretending anyone is even fractionally as bad as nijinigs just outs you sisters

>>104607122
For the longest time I really argued that Nijisisters were worse, but post Kirk they've revealed themselves to unironically believe that stochastic terrorists should never get punished so they win

>>104611853
You don't want her to be punished by pandering to chuds? You don't like that absolute dominance?

>>104607122
Except numberfags exist, they follow vtubers, but never watch any of them, crazy huh

>>104607122
didn't gatekeep pol enough

>>104607122
>Broke
>phasefags are the worst vtuber fanbase because they are /pol/fags
>Woke
>nijifags are also just as bad as phasefags because they are also /pol/fags

>>104611853
>but post Kirk they've revealed themselves to unironically believe that stochastic terrorists should never get punished
I genuinely can't tell if this is supposed to mean that you're saying phasefags actually think leftist people shouldn't be deplatformed for stochastically stoking political tensions that led to what happened to Kirk or if you're saying Kirk was a stochastic terrorist and they are against him being 'punished' (killed) for it
if it's the former then it would mean phasefags are surprisingly more principled than I thought and aren't actually chuds but genuinely libertarian whereas if it's the latter then you're deranged

>>104612627
Bet is on broken bot with a typo

>>104607507
>libertarian bisexual
I can see the libertarian, but bisexual? When did that get revealed?

>>104607507
>holocaust denial jokes
>speaking to literal well-known /pol/fag chud ecelebs on stream
how the fuck is this not pandering to chuds? I can never tell if posts like this are just newfaggotry from the lefty/pol/ nu-phasefag fans or if it's pure revisionism or what. In any case, the idea that Pippa never acted like or pandered to actual chuds at any point is such fucking cope.
>But generally speaking. "Chuds" are kissless, friendless sad sacks
you have to go back

>>104607122
Chuddies, not even once

>>104607122
But you're not a fan, opie.

>>104607122
>Pander to dramafags
>Shocked when all your fans are dramafags
It's honestly a complete mystery

>>104612571
>gg pushes ace
>rissa pushes nb
>increased homo collabing
Hmmmmm

>>104613647
Anon, Hololive has made those jokes. You're just such a tourist newfag you don't even know about it.

>>104613603
Every girl is bisexual until they get a boyfriend and then they become straight. It’s unironically why the alphabet community heavily looks down on Bi women.

>>104610889
>https://streamable.com/nja6s6
>"after the election, she (Clara) said that if conservative women get pregnant they should suffer miscarriages"
kek what the actual fuck, phasebros is this real?

>>104613647
>making jokes is now pandering

>>104607507
Bro, go watch the Tenma/Pippa colab on broforce. Pippa leaned in hard on the Alex Jones/Dale Gribble schtick early on.

>>104607507
>Every chud that got shot was a family man
>Every lefty who got shot was a convicted pedophile, wife beater or groomer tranny

>>104607144
Funny how anons keep claiming that Pippa pandered to political schizos when she wasn't aiming for them at all.
The crowd she was 100% confirmed to directly cater to was Kiwifags which are even worse imo.

>>104613683
you mean this?
https://files.catbox.moe/si5ws1.webm
I'm not a newfag but nice try.
coyly making a holocaust-related pun isn't quite on the same tier as doing a variation on the 'I can't bake all these cookies in this amount of time' schtick or literally talking to people like Jim on stream, discussing /pol/shit in a matter of fact manner and being friends with people like KIrsche and palling up to new zealanders. That's a whole different level.
Also now that I think about it, knowing what I know now, Mumei being the one to instigate that makes it a lot different in hindsight

unrelated but
>find this when looking for the webm of the holocast
kek I completely forgot this ever happened. Kind of unreal hearing Fauna of all people just casually saying Hitler's name on stream
https://youtu.be/fn3160421c0?t=1032

>>104610889
Godamn Kirsche really went full in on being a gossiping dramafag sister, to the point of straight up slandering others. I remember when she actually had well made streams talking about DEI and Blackrock.
I this clip alone:
>Literally enticing a mob to harass this vtuber i.e cancel culture or and even worse
>trying to claim she knew them personally when it's clear as day she's basing all this info off shit she read from /here/ or kiwi, instead of asking directly to clarify.
>falsely claiming that Clara advocated for someone's murder when all she did was retweet a meme.

Can't believe this is the same friendly chuuba I met at an offkai M&G a year ago.

>>104614120
You might want to reread her original ig post

>>104614120
>not realizing that /pol/fags of any variety are 100% actual genuine true believers in their cause and will throw away anything for the cause
>not realizing that chud /pol/fags never actually cared about the principles either and also just want their side to win by any means the whole time
come on man, what did you expect

>>104613699
No. fishman should sue that fatass for inventing shit and doxxing her livestream

>>104607122
Here's what I think happened: in order to appeal to everyone and grow Phase allowed more irl content and influencers which also ended up drawing in people who had chips on their shoulders from other interests. Those people used the Phase sphere as a rest space but dragged their baggage in and continued their grudge match (likely set off be seeing different people in vtubing).

Phase and the earlier Phase fanbase didn't put their foot down enough because they didn't want to be like the eastern/idol fanbases with their own extremes so now you have a large section of people who hid behind Phase and the girls for their own shit/tribalism/culture wars who bring nothing but drama and run their own agendas.

>>104607122
Pandering to le ebin 4chin

>>104614573
>all this text and vagueries
nah, it's definitely that Pippa was a chud and pandered to chuds

>>104607122
>imagine being a progressive loony woketard and join Phase
Couldn't be me.

>>104609794
>>104615171
You are on 4chan. Stop the self-flagellation and self-hatred. It's cringe.

>>104615552
Wrong group to tell that too.

>>104613603
>>104613698
most rainbows are lesbians/bi women
they also have the highest rate of domestic violence and divorce

>>104615552
I'm not a polfag.

>>104607507
Pippa literally was making gun jokes in her debut stream
also her fanbase fully doxxed Lia within days of the companies debut for no other reason than she was Pippa's genmate and Pippa had been a member on the farms and shilling the company on there.

>>104607122
Hire the blacked audience, get the blacked audience

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>phase never pandered to 4chan or pol!
>guns and shootings jokes ad nauseam
>sneedposting was out of control between half the then talents
>kekistan
>conspiracy streams
>starting politcal eceleb drama
>buddy up with political tubers and dramatubers in order to weaponize it to protect their interests
>used these tactics to be the last small corpo standing
the ground which Phase Connect is built on is sour.

>>104607122
The consequences of pandering to /pol/

>>104610889
>fake pausing every few words to sound like she's trying to maintain composure
This kind of weepiness makes me sick.

>>104614232
the somehow expected them to be the exact opposite of lefty trannies canceling everyone who even mildly offends their feelings when they are in fact the exact same, just batting for the other team

>>104614232
>never actually cared about the principles either and also just want their side to win by any means the whole time
This is what the friend/enemy distinction is and objectively correct. The left has the right idea killing people, the right needs to stop trying to hold moral high ground.

>>104607122
>pander to annoying polfags and the type of crowd that spams frogs
>collab with absolute GARBAGE like depressednousagi
>hire practically only girl that cuck their fans and lie to them

>>104617753
Welcome to US politics.

>>104618122
this post is leaving phosphenes in my vision

>>104618122
When you spend a decade taking a very specific position, never compromising on that one thing, and then completely reverse course in one emotional outburst moment and start talking about enemies and friends, you'll quickly find you have no friends at all because no one can trust you to mean what you say.

Did the cuckbot really escape its containment board? They must be terrified.

>>104607122
>butthurt holobaby can't handle the banter
every time

>>104607122
bad managers lead to bad talents lead to bad fans. it's not complicated

>>104618840
does phase have bad managers?

>>104607144
/thread

>>104619030
They don't have managers at all, that is why Pippa is allowed to do all this shit

>>104607122
Everyone has already said it
But Hololive was too safe and would fit into their political viewpoint but they didn’t say anything so they mean nothing, yet they still get some praise because they are “the cute ones”. VShojo was formed out of more “lib” or “left” girls and their humor being more grotesque (also they were mostly ex-4channers who betrayed their past), so they were target to a easy harassment and easily viewed as the bad guys.
2021 came, Niji was just a different Holo. But Phase? Pippa literally filled the void left on that political sphere, so to them it’s a “finally a girl for me”. And while that got them fame, it spawned a whole fandom that constantly tried to be seen as the underdog taking everyone out.

>>104607122
Worst vtubers.

We're not the ones spamming this board with bait threads number monkey.

>>104620699
they have managers what are you talking about. they have been very effective at tard wrangling, but clara is too far gone she is too old to be changed and understand that her actions hurt people beyond her she hurts her corpo

>>104613683
>Anon, Hololive has made those jokes. You're just such a tourist newfag you don't even know about it
Only the fans, the talents never go political. Can you not tell them apart?

>>104621069
>hurts her corpo
This is barely a blip on pc's radar.

>>104618796
Clara.

>>104621069
>clara's actions hurt her corpo
>not pippa, tenma, or panko
lol

>>104621354
>tenma
you mean the one who spazzed out when phase fans gave her a hard time about using her preferred pronouns during her speedrunning arc and collabing with trannies? that tenma?

>>104621354
Pippa hasn't done anything edgy in 2 1/2 years
Tenma has been very outspoken of Phase's fanbase giving the company reputation of a hate speech company
Panko is not well known even inside her own corpo let alone outside

>>104621478
She used chuds as a stepping stone and now she wants the eunuch normie audience.

Similar to vtubers using unicorns and then rejecting them.

>>104621688
I am not saying she didn't, but to the original point about "phase has no managers" they have quite effective managers because they tard wrangled Pippa.
A manager can only be useful if a talent is coachable and receptive to change and doesn't have an ego about it. Clara isn't that.
She isn't gonna be a Pippa, Lia, Hime who were all problems and liabilities to the company to get their acts together and become model citizens and flag bearers for the company

>>104621397
Wait what? "Preferred pronouns"? When did she say that? Oh no, not Tenma

>>104621910
it wasn't that big of a deal. it was in november 2022 she was very heavy into the speedrunning scene and started listing her pronouns as she/her and collabing with trans speedrunners as you do in that community
pcg had a meltdown about it
this caused tenma a month later to crash out on stream about how she doesn't like the reputation the phase connect fan base has given the company and that she hates that she was being excluded from communities and collabs because "you are in phase connect. that is a hate speech company sorry i won't collab with you"

this was before phase took off and was looked at as acceptable to collab with. that had no big vtuber collabs under their belt at that point

>>104621786
Is she? What issue has Clara Kaminari caused to Phase Connect that she's unlikely to fix?

>>104623608
>has gotten onto calls to pick fights with talents on stream
>has thrown shade at some of her companymates which has led to hurt feelings
>some talents have had to deal with harassment she caused from the fallout of last week

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phase out

>>104623800
Yeah I agree, Pippa should graduate.

>>104624322
Clara isn't big enough, good enough or important enough to be an asshole like Pippa is.

>>104624425
Yeah, but she is hotter and more talented than Pippa is. Therefore Pippa should graduate.

>>104612627
Trump is a stochastic terrorist

>>104607122
Starting with Lumi and Tenma, who also streamed there, they attracted a bunch of Twitchfags kids

>>104624303
Please visit a doctor

>>104618796
Doxxing is "banter" now, i see

>Pippa only got popular due to an "N" word yab
>MariMari only got popular due to an "N"word yab
Gee anon, I don't know. How did they end up with the worst fanbase?

>>104611179
>Spergs out about how blue retard would probably celebrate if she, Ketchup the Hutt was murdered
She did just recently get doxxed+death threats by people who share the same beliefs as the Clara does, so this is 100% understandable to me.

Wow the PC shill defend squad is working overtime defending clara shitty actions, pippas grifting and a bunch of mid whores who already have boyfriends and never made it to the big leagues, i do wonder if sakana pays them with coffee, bison dollars or "exposure".

>>104631086
Even funnier, they do it for free.

>>104630744
Eh, I can sympathize with it but the absolute state of Clara's life she's such a nothingburger. It's like getting mad at a retarded dog it's just a waste of emotion.
>inb4 it's other terminally online retards just saying keep urself safe lmao
I hate how death threats got watered down by libtards and children to the point that we have to ask.

>>104607144
This but unironically.

>>104624529
True. Clara can sing pretty well. what's pippas talent again? pandering to /pol/ ?

>>104614303
Has any english drama or election tourist vtuber been sued for defamation, or would it hit the same problem that suing regular conservative media for defamation runs into where because it's they're so pathological, you can't prove malice because they believe their own lies?

>>104631657
>what's pippas talent again? pandering to /pol/
There was a leak about a year ago of her advising someone who wanted tips on growing your audience as a Vtuber, and she told her to try pandering to right wing men. I'm sure someone else knows the exact quote, I'm on lunch break and don't have time to search for it.

>>104631657
Pippas talent is carrying Phase Connect on her back and being one of the most superchatted channels on Youtube.

It's been three days. Since
@PhaseConnect@h2osakana
has done nothing, he's decided that Clara's disgusting remarks are okay. I now reject all of Phase.

I will miss many of their talents, but every time I watch, I put money in the pocket of someone who endorses murder.

>>104630744
I don't know if it was KF but is always KF so I'm going to assume that she is just deflecting instead of acknowledging the truth

>>104631960
So her talent is getting a talentless nobody that got lucky. Got it.

>>104607122
Phasefags are the smarks of the Vtuber industry. NijiEN/StarsEN sisters are still worse

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>>104631733
I have no clue if it happened before or not. But its more than likely that instead of pursuing the difficult option of trying to sue an anonymous content creator for a case they may not be able to win in a court of law, Fishman will just instead blacklist Kirsche the Hutt entirely. That especially will mean her not even being allowed at or even being outside of Phase Con should that ever happen, on top of likely limiting the possibility of her being mentioned or even having another Pippa collab ever again. Clara's woman moment of "I need to get my opinion out there" on her personal account was dumb even if the takes were mild, but she at least stated "I dont think people that hate gays or are pro guns or who are mean deserve death". Kirsche's meltdown was even worse because she flat out ignored this post and openly encouraged the harassing of one of their talents, especially by making it clear that she thought kayfabe was no longer an excuse and encouraged their harassment even outside of the company.

>>104631850
That's great advice tho , if you make yourself hard to dox you don't even need to be a women chubs are that retarded
That Fake Miku almost got away with it

>>104631657
Cute gfe

>>104632084
She made that backpeddle hours after she got lit up like a christmas tree for being a retard. It's the epitome of doesn't count.

>>104632349
Wasn't that the Charlie Kirk way tho? If anything she's paying tribute to him by saying something retarded and then backtrack and said that she didn't mean to said what she literally just said

>>104631979
I know, it's sad that it's come to this.
Wait until fishchink finds out his girls' biggest supporters (finacially and moral) abandoned them, all because he wasn't willing to discipline the actress who plays Clara for saying fucked up shit even though she (and Sakana) knew people had already linked her personal Twitter with the character she's playing back when she said what she said about Trump's attempted assassination. She knew better, but she just could not help herself and drug the company and her coworkers she worked with down into inflammatory drama.

The OriginS girls are locked in contracts until sometime in 2027, I'll check on them then to see if they go indie or not.

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>>104632084
this ain't mild. its pretty spicy, hot even.

Those paid actor clippers really are a propaganda wing.
There are dozens of no name indies I have never seen a single clip from that body everyone in Phase in ccv.

>>104632349
Is there a timestamp of when she posted them? I assume Instagram has something for this like every other social media platform.

>>104632607
That's the actual spicy bit.

>>104632880
ccv isn't real
the only thing that is real is the money and the miles

>>104632579
We all know that ain't gonna happen lol
The biggest cash cows are way to attached to their oshis to stop supporting them because Clara said something about a fat faggot
99% or people making a fuss are either people that only watched clips of didn't watch them at all and just want to join the hate wagon

>>104632607
>>104632084
Instagram messaging is fucking weird looking.

>>104632579
Get over it, snowflake. I thought you phasefags liked dark jokes.

>>104632579
>The OriginS girls are locked in contracts until sometime in 2027
bro thinks he is in the company and has connections

>>104623800
Oh? Can you link each of these?
Because as far as I can tell, none of those happened on Clara Kaminari's accounts and instead were caused by doxxfags.
Meanwhile, you have cases like pippa and jelly ACTUALLY doing that shit, but on main.