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what went so fucking wrong??? weren't they supposed to spell the end of hololive? wasn't saba like the biggest vtuber on earth?
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only you false flagging SEA fucks say so
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>>104609901
Saba is still streaming more than the last years as Gura.

Nimi is acting like a complete menhera.

I don't know what's Dooby thinking, I think she just lost the passion and she thought that going indie would bring it back.
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>>104609925
False flagging as what? He didn't false flag, it was an honest and unironic drama thread. He didn't fake concern or made leading questions.
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>>104609968
it's same loser who makes these claims so he can make these threads, how new?
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>>104609901
They won, though. They can be as lazy as they want with literally 0 consequences.
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>>104609901
bvtm
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>>104610040
what's the consequences for kobo and ayame?
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>>104610553
Corporate pressure.
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>>104610649
What fucking pressure?
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This might offend you but it's the unbiased truth
>Dooby
If she disappeared forever from the internet it would 100% benefit the indie faction because she is an affiliate sell-out whore. I have no reason to claim her
>Nimi
She just mocks Advent's full-gen collab
>Saba
She is even more powerful than Nimi. holoEN never stands a chance against her even with multiple raids and bots. She is still the best EN singer and entertainer on top of that

HoloEN will eventually kill itself, whether it's from more graduations, a fall in popularity, poor hires, or a number of merch difficulties, but the indies are everlasting.

In conclusion: HoloEN does not win.
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>still doesn't stream
>married and pregnant
>still the same but streams now
Holo needs to keep doing what they're doing even if i dont personally agree with it Holo isnt going anywhere. if anything EN will collapse and JP and ID will continue to thrive
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>>104610710
Most people with some senses of shame would feel pressured when they are one of the very few slacking off while others work hard
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>>104610728
>Best EN singer
Lol
Lmao
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>>104611257
They are women.
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>>104609952
dooby has been streaming for the past 10 years. She's probably been having a crisis thinking 'this is my life and all I'm ever going to be doing' for the past 1-2 years.
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>>104609901
>weren't they supposed to spell the end of hololive?
Said by no one.
Too big to fail, like Nijisanji.
>wasn't saba like the biggest vtuber on earth?
Gura still is, even while retired.
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>>104609901
Two of them unreasonably gave cold shoulder to Nimi
It's karma.
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>>104611377
nta, but she's the best in her musical niche
overall though she's still up there, probably in top 5 EN singers
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>>104611257
so nothing tangible got it
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>>104609901
They did. The meta is now to coast on Hololive for two years and then go indie and take all your loyal paypigs with you. Holofags are so mad they left the board and made their own cuckfort.
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>>104613754
Gura was so lazy even her singing regressed and was worse when she graduated. barely making it top 5 when music was her niche isen't that wow
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>>104613754
she is / wasnt even in the Top 5 of Myth Singers.
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>>104613754
And what niche is that
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>>104609901
>weren't they supposed to spell the end of hololive?
only phasecucks pushed that narrative, but now their house of cards is the one collapsing!
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>>104613754
She only ever sang one song in her actual good range
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>>104613754
That's not much when only 4 of the active members can sing, Mumei and Gura opened up place 4 and 5 to Mori and Bae respectively
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>>104610728
>She just mocks Advent
??
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>>104610728
Hate to break it to you man and I don't want to admit it, but Nimi has been slacking after the LLD. Took a week long break last week. Played The Quarry on Sunday, promised to continue playing, nothing on for 3 days. She used to stream all the time on mondays..

Oh wait checked her twitter she said she caught a cold, and will be back today

But still, feels like her stream schedule since the LLD has taken a hit.
Will have to see about it next week



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