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She got bitten by a radioactive spider
Slight chance Pillow might do a double stream tomorrow, any hopes or expectations?
Pillow giving my balls many kisses, wishing good luck to the tiny swimmers in the race to her eggs.Though, I plan on blasting my load in her cute butt last second.
>>104624353I hope she takes it easy and cancels them if she's still in pain. But if they go ahead, just chatting would be nice since we didn't get to do much of that yesterday, and I'd like an ASMR stream as well.
>>104624353I'm expecting that she's probably gonna do ASMR early in the morning like she planned for today, then probably either some more chatting and random VR like the other day or she's gonna get on MC and open up the server as planned.
>>104624433Completely forgot about the PillowCraft 2 opening. Anybody with a reliable PC should prepare to join the race to be the first to join
>>104624433Oh yeah I forgot about PiwwoCraft. I hope I can be there for the launch, but I think it'll be late for me and I've already been neglecting my sleep this week.
>>104624353I don’t know why she’s getting our hopes up about 2 streams tomorrow if the pain is still persisting.I hope the posting last night has nothing to do with it…
Pillow said she wanted the building around spawn to be more coordinated than the last server. We'll see how good piwwos are at that.
>>104624469I plan on basically speedrunning the whole thing. Not going to kill ender dragon or whatever, but I'm just gonna grind the fuck out of the infrastructure so that people who join can have gear premade.
>>104624599It wasn't too bad last year, just some occasional griefing and some guy building a huge, unsightly oil rig in a beautiful lake
>>104624644(me)There was actually a discussion in the Minecraft channels of Pillow's Discord server about having a sort of HOA in the spawn area to avoid unsightly buildings a
>>104624599Okay the strip mining will be done near the spawn then. I was gonna do it about 1k blocks away from the edge of spawn but I guess the resource chests should be accessible by the other Piwwos.
>>104624717I plan on my base being primarily a giant fucking hole in the ground blasted out with TNT dupers until I actually get around building the facade, so I might have to put some grass over it or something.
>>104624717That’s the gayest thing I’ve ever heard of in my life.Unsightly buildings are all I know how to make!
>>104624769Fire spread, and TNT will be disabled
>>104624590I don't think she's reading posts here, but she's definitely the type to feel guilty about ending streams early and being absent for even short periods. She probably wants to make it up to us.>>104624644Yeah I barely played on it but I explored spawn for a bit near the end and I thought it was nice. There was a good balance of organisation and creativity.>>104624717I don't really like the idea of controlling what people build around spawn. I prefer that it develops naturally, within reason. Obviously the very core of it that Pillow builds should be left untouched and the area around it should look nice, but I also don't want it to look rigid and planned. But it's Pillow's server and I respect her wishes, so I'll help out with building spawn the way she wants or go further out to do my own thing.
>>104624811My tunnel bore dreams have been ruined. Infinite diamonds are now out of my reach. I guess I'll have to look into more esoteric means of achieving my wood farm.
>>104624842I say that we dig a massive hole, I'll remove all the bedrock at the bottom of it with sorcery, and then we cast people into it in tribalistic fashion
I can't wait to fuck off to the middle of nowhere and play like I'm in single player
>>104624955She'll find you, she always does.
"The world's largest Piwwooooo!"
>>104624977She did that to me in the old server. Just casually working on my house, when I saw her right behind me. There was also a Backrooms built in the server where she hunted down Piwwos. Really hoping she's active in the MC server again
>>104625028It’s her favorite game, and she’s going to have a more chill time since she’s done with her big projects and it’s no longer convention seasons, so she’ll probably come mess with us plenty.
>>104625109I hope so, I'm just a little worried since October is coming up and I'm pretty sure she wants to get back into doing big projects or events for Pilloween
>>104624977>>104625028I like that she can fully embrace her parasocial side in a fun way on the server. She's pretty busy most of the time so I don't expect her to be very active after the opening, which is why I want to be there for it.>>104625109I hope you're right.
>>104625167As much as it makes me happy that she's achieving her dreams, it's kinda sad how busy she is. I do worry there will come a point where she's too successful, has too many fans, and things like chatting streams are just overwhelming as she has chat flying by like other big streamers.
I screenshotted every time pillow teleported behind me in pillowcraft 1.0.They’re cherished memories.
>>104625248It sucks especially because I know she doesn't want to focus only on super chats, but she might have to at that point. At the same time, I can't say that I hope she doesn't find more success. It's an unavoidable trade-off.
>>104625351It's not like there's anything she can really do to slow down or reverse on her subs amount once she gets there too. Best I could see happening is her doing more members streams, but she'd still have a ton more members, so it'd still be rough. This type of thing is the sad reality of success though, she's everyone's idol, which means that she's spread amongst more people as she grows. The dream for any piwwo would be to achieve some kind of privileged position before that comes to pass.
>>104625465I think I'm finally on her radar now and it'd make me really happy when she's that popular just for her to recognise me in chat as a long-time follower.
Pillow does her best to give everybody equal attention, and she's still a niche within a niche because she's a serious, dedicated GFE VTuber. I think she'd cap out at 200k subs, and maybe a consistent 600 viewers. I don't think she'd become so huge that she can't read every message; she's always been the type to try. I do hope she keeps growing, but mostly to attract big donors. She deserves the best, but her fan base seems to be fairly young. Some big donors have been showing up more lately, though
>>104625552Now see, the only rough part about that is that she'll also be wary about not interacting with you too much when she knows you, since she knows people can get jealous.
>>104625582(me)My only real concern about Pillow getting bigger is if she starts attracting more people who hate GFE or if she starts bringing in more whores. Even if a semi-regular mentions watching another girl, Pillow will be genuinely hurt. She values loyalty, and I'm worried she'll lose that loyalty if she gets big enough to the point of attracting very casual viewers
>>104625582Nene is similar and she's at 500k. She's just been doing it longer and was part of a corp, but Pillow also does a million collabs and is fucking amazing, so I don't doubt she could make it. Genuinely how many vtubers do you know of that pull shit off like the ASMR parade or the Best Friends stream? She's special, and it's a little bit worrying from the perspective of a fan and chatter.
>>104625607NTA, but you're right. Pillow always does her best to give everybody equal attention. Her most dedicated fans, her top donors, top commissioners, etc. they all get the same exact attention as other regulars. If anything, Pillow tries to give extra attention to new viewers,
>>104625668Been a longtime viewer now, so I think I get what you mean by it being a little bit worrying. Pillow is amazing, she's beyond amazing. She makes the impossible seem within reach. Despite all that, she still does her absolute best to be there for her Piwwos in her own, subtle ways
>>104625651I don’t think the GFE is ever going away, because it’s not motivated by audience pressure or desire for success. A shitload of vtubers do GFE or lewdtubing because they have small audiences and that shit is a good way of squeezing the cash out of a smaller audience. Those types usually drop it after they get to a bigger size. Pillow is GFE because she genuinely loves the Piwwos.
>>104625782Oh don't get me wrong, I agree. GFE is never going away because her love is genuine - I don't doubt that for a second. I'm just worried she might attract a more casual audience that won't give a damn about her feelings or about being loyal to her. I'd hate for Pillow to be heartbroken like that
>>104625607>>104625690Yeah I know I shouldn't expect special treatment, but I do think she appreciates the difference between a dedicated fan and a casual viewer, and she'd be happy to recognise the former.
I'm really glad that mostly everyone here is pretty reasonable about Pillow and what to expect from her
That cafe collab Pillow's doing is a step closer to her dream of having her own pop-up idol cafe. I have full confidence that she'll do it someday.>>104625748>She makes the impossible seem within reach.This is how I feel too. Her journey is inspiring.
>>104626202I expect that she will marry me, and we will sire 39 children.
Pillow's mentioned that she likes tiramisu. I want to make her one.
Pillow responded to a comment or two of mine on stream that's enough for me. Happy to just be a regular piwwo.
>>104627160I once got lucky and had her respond to like 4 comments in a row, closest I'll get to a full conversation with her for my whole life unless I severely lock in
Pillow’s ccv usually isn’t that good unless it’s a lucky day. Like yesterday she was at low 300, and during the BFFE event she couldn’t break 900. Not an anti, just pointing out she’s not very big
>>104627239She's done a M&G on PillowCord before. It's worth lurking there just in case she does another one.
>>104627300Pillow has never been particularly huge. Been watching her since debut, she used to sit at high 200 - low 300 back then. Even today, her regular numbers are in the mid-300s. YouTube screwed her over with some viewership culling thing lately, and her usual streams are hidden to anybody who has "restricted mode" on
>>104627349Seems like she wants to try and do one every year, around July/August. She's done 3 in PillowCord now, one was actually in VRChat, where some Piwwos got to hug her
>>104627412I didn't know she'd done so many. It's nice that they're a recurring thing. The VR thing sounds cute but I think I'd feel too awkward to do that lol. I'm happy to keep it pretty formal.
>>104627484I could barely bring myself to talk to her, even with practice. I admire the people who do it without a second thought
>>104627542(me)I've only shown up to one, I don't imagine I'll be able to bring myself to talk to her ever again
>>104627586Meet and greet format is wack as shit anyway. It's always going to be awkard, you're surrounded by people, you can't say anything interesting. There is literally nothing you can do or say that someone else hasn't already done. I'm going to hold out for engineering some situation in which I can speak to her as an actual person, much less awkward.
>>104627542>>104627586How come? I've done two (her Discord M&G this year and her joint M&G with Furi at VeXpo) and I cherish every opportunity to speak with her. I need to think of what to say next time though, if there is a next time.>>104627660>Meet and greet format is wack as shit anyway. It's always going to be awkard, you're surrounded by people, you can't say anything interesting. There is literally nothing you can do or say that someone else hasn't already done.I had those worries going into it, but just being able to speak with her (and Furi, who I didn't know but was a lot of fun) made me forget and just enjoy the experience. I appreciated it for what it was. I do hope I can do it from the comfort of my home again though, so I can be a little more sappy than I would within earshot of others at a con.
>>104627822A combination of social anxiety and putting Pillow up on a pedestal while seeing myself as worthless garbage that doesn’t deserve the right of being able to talk to her skews with my ability to interact with her even when she clearly wants to. It’s fine, I got to talk to her once, I just want to keep supporting her
>>104627982She would not want a single Piwwo to see her like that, or themselves like that. I care little for how much it makes anyone seethe, I'm going to see myself as an equal worthy of her love and work to attain it. That's what she'd want from me.
>>104628108I'm going to see myself as the fastest piwwo in the West
>>104628205Based. Pop off king, I support this endeavor.
>>104627982You shouldn't feel that way. I never socialise and could feel my heart racing the first time I spoke with her, but she completely put me at ease. One of the first things she told me was that she was nervous; she's like us, excited and happy to meet someone, not an aloof celebrity wanting to get it over with. I think she's very considerate and purposefully tries to show that she's our equal to make us more comfortable when speaking with her.
>>104627412>one was actually in VRChatI was there. That was the day she shot a harpoon straight into my heart. The day I went from a casual fan to a full on gachikoi. She was just so sweet. I've never been the same since.
>>104627300Compared to the small vtuber space that's quite good actually. Comfortable 3view is harder to reach than you realize.
>>104630061Unironically I think it was probably the gunpla stream that did it for me. A solid 5 hours of interacting with her after I had been moving over from watching vods into actually catching some of streams, until now I just do whatever it takes to make it to every single one. It does make me kind of sad for not being more invested in her earlier, I’ve been listening to her ASMR before she was even a vtuber. I never considered the idea of any sort of relationship with a streamer prior to learning more about her and realizing how much she’s my ideal.
Goodnight, Piwwos. Gonna hope Pillow's pain goes away even more tomorrow. I'll be hopeful for that double stream too
>>104634146Good night Piwwo here's to hoping her shoulder is better tomorrow.
Are we gonna have a code phrase to identify each other on pillowcraft? The narwhal bacons at midnight type shit?
Piwwos.. pleas keep the thread alive :(
Don't worry piwwos, Gotham is safe on my watch!
>>104637480If I pulled off that cowl, will you die?
>>104637593No, but it would be very painful
>>104637767You're a big piwwo.
>>104638182For you
https://x.com/amattoart/status/1968525389187403777
>>104638231We all know she ain’t stacked like that.
>>104637593You'd find out my secret identity! That's not allowed
it shipped!
>>104639527>based pre-orderEven they know.
What vtuber would you pay a lot of money to watch Pillow have lesbian sex with?
>>104639733
>>104638388For the Hornywwos, never forget that Pillow is a lanky skinny girlfail who would likely cry in the presence of a penis. Realistically, if you’re degenerate and want to do sexual things with her, she’d be nothing but disappointing. I have long since accepted that a relationship with her would be primarily wholesome and non-sexual, at least for a very long time.
So few hornyposts…did they all leave or something?
>>104640231That's fine. Preferable, even.
>>104641127most left for towa or 8
>>104641127They were mostly killed off in the last battle. The few that remain are hiding--licking their wounds
>>104641127Hope so. We won’t want that here.
Wtf happened to /pillow/? It used to be a fun place to hang out and joke around with other piwwows, but recently it’s become so serious and preachy and full of anonymous white knights.
>>104641860 Also full of complaining bitches too.Just post more about her butthole
>>104641659Any Piwwo that cannot be loyal must be executed.
>>104639733Ever since I’ve learned Pillow is bi it only confirms my cuckquean fantasies. She’ll introduce me to her hot big-tiddy vtuber friends and sit in the cuck chair while crying because she feels like her small skinny body isn’t enough for me.
Let's say Pillow is giving you one of her legendary gentle nursing handjobs with her gorgeous, soft hands and painted black fingernails. You're laying there and she's stroking at a maddeningly slow pace with the lightest grip possible. Do you embarrass yourself by bucking into her hand and risk being called a bad piwwo or do you have the discipline to lay there and take being edged for hours on end?
>>104641955You’re forgetting the 3rd option of tossing her into the air into the Nelson position. She is built for maximum submission, don’t be a bitch.
The desires of horny posters are entirely hypothetical to Pillow and that's why they'll never be realised. You've already lost.
>>104642073I meant antithetical... You win this one...
Exploiting Pillow’s shoulder pain by gently fingering her knowing she can’t fight back and has to stay very still whilst I’m rubbing her clit. Fighting off the urge to cum for it would send a shooting pain down her spine if she moves or deeply breathes in.
>>104642084I see we have entered the “I wanna fuck Subaru’s heart hole” stage of hornyposting
>>104642104I’m just missing her badly and crave more 1on1 zatsu time with her.
>>104642163The 4 components of love are admiration, attraction, devotion, and respect. Pillow fulfills 1/2 of the requirements for romantic love.The quest of a truely invested Piwwo should be to have her fulfill all 4, and then you get as much truly 1-1 zatsu as you want, every night on your dates.
>>104642163My issue is I will never get enough 7 hours straight wouldn’t be enough
I like coming up with date ideas, even if they're entirely hypothetical. Is Pillow into historical stuff? I want to take her here:https://www.ironbridge.org.uk/visit/blists-hill-victorian-town/I think she'd appreciate the roleplay aspect and the horses. They also do a Halloween event that she might enjoy. She said she wanted to try the food if she came here, and they do the best fish and chips I've had (cooked the proper way, in beef dripping).
>>104642760I feel like the best date a man could possibly have with her is far simpler. Sitting on her bed with her, close together and intimate, and just letting her yap about things she loves. Unironically one of the largest reasons I want to date her is to be her rock, because I do fear that she doesn’t have many people who she can be 100% with. Her friends are Vtubers who are busy, and also more colleagues than anything. Sure, they’d be there for her for issues, but it’s not like she could yap to them about how much she hates niche little things about some special interest. Olive is like her mom, but also seems very curt and stiff, sort of the same deal, she’d support Pillow for serious shit, but isn’t going to sit and listen to her rant about her anxieties and fears for 3 hours straight. Pillow loves the Piwwos, but she understands that she can’t dump her issues on us. She can’t sit and talk about how she feels like a burden on others because she can’t drive. Or how she feels like a failure for not streaming as much as she’d like to. Or how she feels lonely when she’s working and knows that everyone she knows is a potential leak risk for all those little projects she has planned in the future, like the cafe thing. In Pillow’s head, her job is to come on stream and always be the smiling adorably cute invincible nurse who’s job is to heal every little wound of the hearts of Piwwos, she can’t do that with a frown, so she pushes it to the side.I’d love to be her boyfriend or whatever, but I think above all that, I’d care more about simply being someone she can trust to speak to freely. I know there’s a thousand dudes who feel exactly the same as me though, so I won’t begrudge them the same ambition, if they succeed I simply demand that they don’t fuck it up.
>>104642827>I feel like the best date a man could possibly have with her is far simpler. Sitting on her bed with her, close together and intimate, and just letting her yap about things she loves.Oh, that would be lovely as well. I'd just be happy to spend time with her.>Unironically one of the largest reasons I want to date her is to be her rockThat's very much the appeal for me too. I think you might be right that she sometimes feels lonely despite the friends she's made, because they can't or won't provide the attention that a loving partner would.What it is for me, essentially, is that she's such a lovely and good person that I want more than anything for her to be happy, and what would enable me to make sure of that is being her lifelong companion. I'm sure she'd be very affectionate in a relationship, but I think much more about what I could do for her rather than she could do for me.
>>104641127I need to sleep. Plus Pillow being hurt doesn't make me horny.>>104641772So how did your seiso thread go?
>>104643007This is the best thread in a while. Nobody's arguing and most of the posts are interesting and high-quality.
I miss butt schizo
>>104643227It's almost like complaining about harmless hornyposts might have been the agitator.
>>104642865I am certain that if I were being up the concept to Pillow, she’d hit me with a “Oh I’m okay, you don’t have to worry”, but frankly it’s the duty of a man to work towards the protection and uplifting of what he values, even when it’s not asked for. Doesn’t mean you step over any boundaries, I eternally maintain that if Pillow ever tells me that my quest is over, I am obligated to pack up and quit, but until the day I am properly rejected I might as well work towards my delusions.
>>104641931Who will be the brave Piwwo to make cuckquean art of Pillow?
>>104643326Maybe, which is why I stopped, but not having those posts here in the first place has also improved it substantially.
>>104643474Sure just remember if it bothers you that badly the discord is always an option.
>>104643577No, it isn't. I don't want to post the things that I post here under my username, where Pillow and everyone else there can read them.
>>104643616If I posted the things on here under my username, Pillow would likely have struck me down a long time ago…
>>104643616What could you possibly be posting here that is supposedly not as bad as the hornyposts but is somehow bad enough to post in the discord?
Protecting Pillow the pain from showering by offering to lick her stinky lanky body clean whilst she just lays there scrolling on her phone retweeting horse memes.
>>104643700I’d argue yearnposting is just as bad as horny posting, since if you do it somewhere with your name attached that she can see, she’s kinda obligated to interject in some way, and she’s a girl who hates conflict of any kind so you’re basically obligating her to do some shit that hurts her own feelings.
>>104643658>>104643700It's not that I've said anything bad about her, but I get very sappy and romantic here and I think it would put her in an awkward position to see me around in her community knowing that's how I feel. These threads are my outlet, but with Pillow I'd only express them after what I thought was an appropriate amount of time.>>104643733That's exactly why I don't yearn-post under my username. Doing it anonymously is harmless; in fact, I like the idea of her reading my posts and knowing that someone feels that way about her.
I think the solution to yearn-posting would be to just get art comms about your date ideas or ideas fantasies. Pillow loved her bridal dress art and she even requested art of going on a date with her from (your) POV. I think she’d be very happy to see more people commission art of going on dates with her
>>104643787Yeah she does seem to like those so I'll consider it.
>>104643733Alright I'll give you that. I tend to ignore the 5 paragraph yearn posts since I have no reason to shit on someone for having those feelings.
>>104643782In all honesty, I don’t think Pillow would reply if you yearn post in her discord. Judging off her interactions with slightly similar posts, she’d actually be secretly happy, even if a bit flustered. Twitter would also be a good place to do it, since she loves to ego surf and she’s bound to run into it some point
>>104643804I can only respect others that put the same energy and thought into caring about Pillow as I do. I want to be the one who ultimately succeeds with her in the end, but I know that it would not be right to dislike a Piwwo for having the same feelings that I do. It takes a lot more effort to try and love Pillow in a way she’s want, than to simply jork while calling her wifey.
>>104643782Alright you yearnpost and are afraid of the consequences in non anonymous settings. I can respect that because I won't just go and hornypost in her chat or comments since 1. I have enough respect for Pillow to only do it here and 2. She's already had to talk about people saying weird things in her chat.
>>104643824Generally the issue with that would merely be the typical issue with any confession: the second you’re turned down, that’s probably not going to change. The second there’s a concrete “no”, you’re obligated to move on since any further attempts at doing anything are disrespectful of her boundaries. The risks on that are too high, best case she doesnt say anything and secretly is happy, worst case she DMs you with a “please stop schitzoing out”. Not to mention that Twitter is basically speaking into the void, you generally wouldn’t get any input or responses even from other Piwwos.
>>104643855I could really share my personal thoughts on you based on this post alone but I better not since Pillow wouldn't like that.
Whilst you piwwows are all fighting over Pillow, I’m going after Olive and WILL break down her emotional walls and find the cute softy hidden so deep inside. Then I will have 6 unbelievably autistic kids with her.
>>104643824That might be the case. I still prefer to do it anonymously, until I can express my feelings directly to Pillow and not just as a fan.>>104643855>It takes a lot more effort to try and love Pillow in a way she’s want, than to simply jork while calling her wifey.I get the distinct impression from people who express a desire to do the latter that they don't really love Pillow. My love feels deep and real; theirs sounds shallow and superficial.>>104643903There's also that. I understand what's expected of Pillow and how seriously she takes being an idol, so she can never respond to any public confession with anything more than gratitude and implicit rejection—and confessing to her as someone she's never met is pointless anyway. I don't want to ever put her in that position, even if she might be flattered, because I think she deserves a real confession from someone she's gotten to know and could actually consider spending a life with. Obviously I'll never get the chance to do that though, so posting my feelings here anonymously and hoping she reads them will have to do.
>>104644036That's gonna be a lot of autism
>>104644047How many times do we have to tell you that Pillow doesn't come here?
>>104644470I said I hope, not expect.
>>104644470She hates us? :(
>>104644498With how much you keep hyping yourself up why not send Pillow a dialed back version of your yearnposting via a superchat or something? >>104644665She doesn't hate US specifically this place just isn't for her. Hell even /mlp/ isn't a place for her either with all the uh degeneracy that happens over there.
>>104644740Explain "dialled back". I've said and done nice things for her, but I won't go as far as to confess that I love her romantically and want to be with her, for reasons I've explained. At least, I don't want to do that for now. Maybe in a few months it'll become too much for me and I'll have to get it out to her, accepting the inevitable response.
Please post Pillowhands. I miss them.
>>104645067>I've said and done nice things for herThat's kinda what I was going to suggest. I don't expect you or anyone to outright give her a marriage proposal lol But just something simple like saying how much you love her streams and how much she makes you feel loved and appreciated and how much you love and appreciate her back should be OK.
>>104645215That's pretty much what I said to her the first time we spoke directly, during her Discord M&G last month. She was very sweet and appreciative as always.
I heard Pillow is a babu
>>104645312Nope.
>>104644740Also you said I'm hyping myself up, and I suppose I am a bit, but I know I'm still not where I want to be in life for her. I'm working on that and she's my motivation.
>>104644740She's /here/. She read about the androids, her shoulder pain is from her training.
>>104645215I have actually reached out and said something romantic to her, but as expected it gets kinda blown off. Not an outright rejection or acceptance, more just ignored, which I just take as a cue to continue working on being able to speak to her as an equal in the future.I only do it because I wanted to do it anyway, might as well use Pillow as my motivation, she did say she's rooting on me.
Something feels very off about all these posts. Like an AI thread or we’re being raided by the discord or something.
>>104645877Too many essay length posts so close to one another. It's weird
>>104645877Why? Also, say what you want about PillowCord but they went along with my get-well-soon card idea and we made something nice that I think Pillow will appreciate. I took it to you guys first, because I spend most of my time here, but nobody was interested.>>104645972I work from home and I'm not very busy lol
>>104645877It is weird how he makes essentially the same post several times every thread.
>>104645972buttschizo and fempiwwo left us when we needed them most…
>>104645552Just keep working on yourself and when you feel the time is right give it a shot I suppose. >>104645587Lol >>104645832Using her as motivation is fine. But if she bluntly ignored you maybe that's a sign to not confess to her again.
Keep in mind that pillow CANT respond to your confession. Imagine someone confesses and she accepts, and then it comes out to the public
>>104645987PillowCord is really nice, just very prude-ish. I probably would stop so openly giving out who you are if I were you, though
>>104646129I don't care. Why should I? I haven't said anything here that I'm ashamed of.
Is it really too much to ask to have Olive (wearing gloves if she’d prefer) painting Pillow’s nails and having girly chat whilst we listen in?
>>104646129Prudishness is fine (good even) but I find most of the conversations there inane. I find Discord culture in general very obnoxious. I mainly just lurk for official updates.>>104646162That would be cute, but Olive doesn't seem like she'd want to do that.
>>104646157Not him but normalfags and trannies go ballistic when they find you post on 4chan
>>104646123EXECUTION BY FIRING SQUAD
>>104646280Well I've said nothing bad, so the only thing they could complain about is that I post completely innocuous stuff here, which I'm fine with people knowing.
>>104646280 I have never once given a single shit what trannies think, I wear the false veil of inclusivity because I know Pillow would be sad otherwise
>>104645987Most of the fags on the Discord are also here, most people were just slow on the uptake. In reality most of the users here are the same like 10 super Pillow fans, I just can't fuck with the discord very much because its full of underage queers.
You’d wear a horse tail buttplug for her, right piwwows?
>>104646325>I know Pillow would be sad otherwiseThis is actually something I worry about somewhat, but it doesn't bother me what her views are and I don't think she'd ever bring them up in a relationship anyway. I wouldn't bring up mine, even though I think they're very reasonable, just because I don't think they're something she'd want to talk about.>>104646368That's a rude way of putting it but yes that seems to be the case lol
>>104646419This is 4chan, I am simply using customary rudeness. I am actually a swell fella under typical circumstances. Personally, I suspect she has sorta baseline apolitical views, where she's kinda just nice to everyone. I know the area of Texas she's in, and theres a roughly 93% chance she was raised nondemononational protestant, so she is likely a lot more reasonable than most other girls.
>>104646419Man that isn't even rude you should see some of the things I post not in this thread.
>>104646448I think you're right. She posted on Twitter the other day that she was praying for someone, which I'm assuming was more than a figure of speech. I didn't mention it at the time because her religion's her business and I didn't want to sound judgy. I actually think it's very sweet and I like her even more for it.
>>104646396Only if she pees on me
>>104646511I've noticed she responds well to any time I mention prayer to her, she's probably similar to me, non-demom protestant that doesn't go to church or anything but still roughly believes in Christianity but is fairly chill about it.
>pillow is religious analschizo knew
>>104646546I mean 74% of Texas is religious, and the US majority religious. Statistically, whilst Vtubers are younger and less likely to be religious, there’s a large amount of them that are kinda just not mentioning it so they don’t need to be bothered about it.
>>104646448Now I just need to talk her into hating Indians as much as I do and we’re golden.
>>104646592>there’s a large amount of them that are kinda just not mentioning it so they don’t need to be bothered about itThat's probably true and it's a shame. It would be nice for more of them to be open about it (though not necessarily preachy) to show that it can be a positive influence, but I understand why they aren't.
>>104646537>>104646546
>>104646419Political views are important, and they'd always come up in a relationship, since she doesn't seem like the type to fuck around. Pillow is a "I want this one particular guy and I'm gonna marry him" kinda gal.On the bright side, she clearly is a fan of guns.
>>104646773>Political views are important, and they'd always come up in a relationship, since she doesn't seem like the type to fuck around.You think? Like the other guy said, I think she's just a "be nice to everyone" person, and how that manifests in her political views is fluid.If she did have strong opinions though, I wouldn't change mine to suit hers, but I would try to explain them in a way that she could relate to and understand.
She's a happy gal
>>104647195I'm really happy that she appreciates it. The piwwos who contributed did a great job.
My ultimate delusional fantasy about Pillow is that we establish a personal relationship, it gets to the point where I'm confessing the full extent of my feelings for her, and she recognises the things I say from my /pillow/ yearn-posts and says "that was you?!"
>>104647332Issue with that would be that any male she establishes a personal relationship would need to be 1000% trustworthy. Might mess with her estimation of your secrecy if she found that you were constantly posting to her thread.
>>104647359I would stop posting here altogether if we had any kind of personal relationship, even just as friends. It would be weird otherwise.
I didn't realise her ASMR stream was so early. I'm looking forward to seeing her.
>>104647627Oh that is early. OK I'll probably be there for the minecraft stream instead.
I want her to sin with her hands and my penis and pray for forgiveness afterwards.
>>104648096I will convince her that morning blowjobs and kisses to my balls are not the kind of thing you gotta wait till marriage for
Bros I've never really listened to this start screen music before... It's making me sad...
I’m hard.
I love this Live2D art so much. I love how her face is so close to us, but I also love being able to see the sway of her cute, tiny feet
>>104648846Makes me want to pronebone her.
Is it wrong to poop whilst listening to Pillow's ASMR? Especially the rainbow slug parts?
>600 CCVWe're so back
>>104649631Never concern yourself with the numbers Piwwo. If she has 1 viewer, I will be one of them. She doesn't compare herself to others, no need for us to do so.
>>104649667I'm just glad because she's been worrying about recent YouTube changes hurting her metrics. It's her livelihood after all.
I’m thinking very…unchristian…things. I’m a bad piwwo.
>>104649820Thoughts can't be helped. Just keep them to yourself.
>>104649905But what if satan's controlling my hands?
>>104649905/pillow/ is a satanic cult
She’s winning me back…
>>104650308She's a sincere gal
>’how many pumps do you think would be good?’Jesas
>>104650477Yes, I thought that too lol. Well done for not making any jokes in chat.
She’s being very lewd today. I’m finding it extremely hard not to hornypost.
The gentle kisses, calling herself "wifey," the up-close whispers... I'm not gonna make it, Piwwos
I can't stop looking at her feet, she's literally teasing me nonstop with them
>>104650572>>104650648She REALLY didn’t like us complimenting the cute girls she invited to her charity event
I want to grab, kiss, and massage her little feetsies
>>104650834Sorry that Toffee girl was kinda cute tho...
>>104650834Well it's her fault for inviting cute girls.
>>104650865She’ll lotion her feet soon if you continue posting things like that
It feels illegal to listen to this as someone who doesn't oshi her exclusively
>>104651011Kill yourself.
>>104651011stop being a whore
>>104651035>>104651021I'm sorry I just came in here as a new viewer
How can you listen to her desperation of wanting to be the only one you love and still run to other girls?
>>104651021>>104651035Don't be mean to new piwwos :(
>>104651068I dropped my last oshi for Pillow. I won’t say who it was but there was a transition period which took like 3 months. I think some of the newer piwwows who’ve recently joined the thread are probably going through the same thing, which makes them come across as whores for Pillow hasn’t fully won them over just yet.
>>104651259She can sense it, she smells it on you
Pillow is my cute and sweet side-hoe
>>104651287For now. You just wait until the next 9 hour gunpla handcam. She’ll win your heart and your cock.
>>104651259Yep currently going through the same thing. It sucks pretty hard when you wanna walk away but you've spent time and effort on someone else and so you're just stuck with the memories that were good but everything else just keeps getting worse and worse but you still hold out hope that things get better but they never do.
>>104651339I yearn for an extra long members only crafty stream with a small number of viewers. Those times are some of the few you can actually converse with her like an actual conversation.
>>104651371I went through the exact same thing myself. It did suck to make that decision but I feel much happier now that I've gone through with it.
>>104651381groomgod
>>104651413Everyone fantasizes about Pillow Wife. Don't bitch just because I have the confidence to want that for real.
If Pillow ever lurks this place and finds out there are some anons considering dropping their oshi for her, she’ll go all-out to pull you in lol. She’s super competitive like that.
Can you tell me why pillow is worth having as my one and only? It’s such a big commitment and it’s nerve wracking
>>104651457Never gonna happen, she'd have to do oiled up feet ASMR to do that to me, so I'm safe~
>>104651401I know I'd be happier with Pillow but until I fully leave my current oshi I'm just gonna stay anonymous and lurk her streams instead. But the day to leave is coming soon.
My oshi (not Pillow) is just as sweet as her but it feels like I'm just sticking with her because of the sunken-cost. I'm going to end up seeing Pillow the same way in 3 years if I switch. I'm the problem.
I'd get into pillow more if she didn't have fans modded. It's never a good thing to elevate some fans like that.
>>104651494I totally get that, it's a very hard thing to do and took me months of thinking it over as well. I wish you luck.
>>104651567What else is an indie supposed to do?
>>104651581Thanks.
Always tough seeing so much outpouring of love. It's a lot to fathom competing with...
>>104651587Not that I agree or disagree with them, but they can do what girls like Kanna or Zenya do, and make the mod use alt accounts and stay silent almost entirely.
>>104651618In the same way that Pillow wants to by my one and only, I want to occupy a special place in her heart. I just recognize that there's not really much competitng with the love of so many Piwwos. I provide different things, but I can't expect her to be satisfied with where I'm at now. I'd just love to catch her eye in a special way.
>>104651621I feel like it would be difficult to organize. Plus kanna has a company to work with and what not. I don’t watch the other girl at all so idk
>>104651686Gifts are the way to go. Of course donos get some attention, but I think pillow mainly notices stuff like arts and crafts more than anything. I’ve heard her thank chat members on stream for their art or video edits. It’s stuff that you spend your time on that means the most to her
>>104651704Kanna did this as an indie too, btw. It's not that hard, really. Or, I wouldn't find it hard.But it doesn't really matter all that much to me.
>>104651686I'm the same. I do what I can to stand out and I've made some progress, but I feel like it'll never be enough. I'll just keep being a good Piwwo for her, regardless of the attention I get.
>>104651750True, but whilst I'll make art and such for her, I don't think that's the sort of thing that'd set me truly apart. She already recognizes me from how much I interact. Current plan is just to work so unfathomably hard for years straight that I can show her how much I care. I'll succeed so much that she'll understand how much she pushed me. One of those big grand sorts of gestures she'd read in one of her fanfictions or romance manga she loves. I figure that's roughly the best shot I've got.
>>104651836Are you me
>>104651836As long as you don't think you'll actually truly end up dating her Love the illusion and escapism, don't cross that final line. It can only end in you turning into an anti and scorned former gachikoi.
>>104651750You're definitely right. She loves knowing that someone dedicated their time to doing something for her.
>>104651901Not him but I'd never turn on Pillow if my advances were unsuccessful. I'd be devastated but I know she's a good person and would have her reasons.
>>104651869I mean hey, I'm okay with a fellow Piwwo also pursuing the same thing. At the end of the day, I aim to be the one to succeed, but I know that plenty of people will want the same thing. It wouldn't be morally right to try and gatekeep that sort of thing.>>104651901I recognize the impracticality and the fact that the chance of success is near-zero. I'm also mature enough to know that if the time comes wherein I am rejected, or someone else succeeds, then it's simply time to move on. I take care to keep a healthy mindset about this sort of shit. Y'all can call me a groomer if you want, but the way I see it is simple: Pillow is my ideal in every way, and I don't ever want to settle. I want to strive and push forward for what I really want, because that tiny chance of success is worth chasing.
>>104651957She has a million good reasons, I won't delude myself by thinking that I'm such a catch that I'd overcome the fact that her dreams are tied up with being loyal to the Piwwos. Granted, I think that what I'd ultimately opt for is simply being close to her, I don't really need to be a boyfriend or whatever, at least for a long time. My primary concern is just getting to know her and understand her.
Where are all the groomers coming from
True enlightenment is feeling real love for your oshi and supporting her all the way, but also knowing that it's for the best if she stays true to the idol spirit and doesn't engage in any such romantic involvements - instead she continues to be there for all her fans equally.
>>104652113Do you not love Pilow, Piwwo?
>>104652113these are just piwwos anon.nice to a fault but a little schizo if you push them.
>>104652113At the end of the day, if I want them to respect and put up with my degenerate thoughts about Pillow, Olive and fempiwwo(s), I must endure their groomposting. It’s only fair. This is definitely a schizo general now but this was inevitable.
>>104652125Idol culture is toxic for the talents who engage in it for a reason. A woman cannot live off parasocial love for her whole life. Pillow will eventually need romantic love in her life that isn't with a million usernames. Kinda like earlier was talked about in the thread, she's going to eventually have such a large audience that she can't connect with the Piwwos in the same way. Might as well seek to fulfill that part of her life, instead of expecting her to always be a pristine idol forever.
>>104652183>Idol culture is toxic for the talents who engage in it for a reason>Might as well seek to fulfill that part of her life, instead of expecting her to always be a pristine idol forever.>No you see, my groomerisms are actually the respectful and good thing
>>104652183No one is an idol their entire life. It's a career, albeit a special one. And all it requires is for them to give up on such an engagement or romance for the few years they work as an idol. In exchange for all the love and support and not to forget loadsa money they get it's not too much to ask.
>>104652178Forgive me for my groomposting Piwwo, just makes my heart heavy to recognize how impossible it is to be someone special to the lady I love.
>>104652183>parasocialyou're not a real piwwo
Why was she so horny during the ASMR? Where did my Christian little lady learn to tease boys like that..
>>104652292She missed us a lot. She doesn't like being dirty, but I think she picked up how much chat was eating it up.
How long before she does this? https://youtu.be/PYO7bp7rP0I&t=362
>>104652356My wife is not a whore.
>>104652228She doesn't know your real name, she doesn't know your favorite color. Her love for the Piwwos is real and genuine, but it's necessarily lopsided. You can't love 100k people in the same way you love 1.
>>104652356I think a few more posts about Toffee, Raki and Nene will do it.
>>104652397Cheating on Pillow gets you shanked.
>>104652183Pillow loves and has a deep respect for idol culture. She idolizes talents that also partake in idol culture because she thinks it's an amazing thing, and I do too. And of course, you have to repeat the "parasocial bad" spiel; this is as genuine to her as it is to us. She loves the Piwwos genuinely, romantically. She would not ever in a million years consider breaking the hearts of the people who built her up to have a secret relationship. Pillow would consider that cheating, and she would rather die than cheat on who she loves
>>104652397piwwos sure have good taste
>>104652422I don't disagree with you on that one, hence why I say it's a 0% chance I ever actually have a relationship with her. But I gotta try. Better to strive for my dreams than get comfortable with settling.
>>104652457>But I gotta tryEven if your attempt actively goes against what she wants and what she values? Thats fine, I just dont really respect you as a fellow fan
If you’re /here/ fempiwwo, I haven’t forgotten about you or your butt. I miss you so much.
>>104652502
>>104652113Their mothers
>schizo hours
Anybody here who is willing to ruin what Pillow has built from the ground up by attempting to start a secret relationship with her needs to turn in their Piwwo card
>>104652557Forgetting what site this is it's always schitzo hours
>>104652577Exactly. If she were to do that she'd ruin part of what makes her who we love.
>>104652577Don't worry, I won't make it a secret.
>>104652671The race to make the cuck ASMR stream with Pillow
why is there always so much cuck posting and twitter tourist in here when I decide to read the thread?
Pillow's gonna bitch this thread out for upsetting her Top Guys
>>104652743I blame SEA
I miss the old days when we were all equals just hornyposting all day, giving fun stream suggestions and annoying fempiwwo.
Piwwos, this thread was so nice. Don't ruin it :(
Rate todays stream. I haven't seen it yet. I just got home
>>104652804Made me cum 9 times. Pillow jerked us off.
>>10465280410/10 instant classic. She called herself “wifey”
>>104652743Hmmm weird.... you say it always happens when YOU are here?
>>104652502How many times do I have to say im here for you to get it through your skull
>>104652743>>104652773Happens to several threads around this time of day
>>104652832Clearly the work of anti-Piwwos. We must eviscerate them. Someone drop that one Terminator Piwwo edit.
>>104652832I am once again proposing that SEA be banned from posting on /vt/
>>104652868That and the Indians. All our problems would be fixed.
>>104652884>>104652868Why would brown people watch a clearly white chuuba?
So we all agree she’s a furry with an extreme and sexually confused horse/pony fetish?
Should I reply asking for foot pics?
>>104652899I'm one of the good races, don't ask me to understand The Dark Ones
Her arm still hurts? What the hell did she do?
>>104652942It’s my bad…
>>104652708pillow giggles as she gets tickled and kissed (gone too far??!?!) asmr
>>104652942She was cheering me on too hard and sprained it
>>104652942She jerked me too hard
>>104652942She tried to lift my penis with one arm
>>104652868If you look at the timezones, right now is primetime for Europeans...
>>10465308510pm ain't primetime, that's nearly bedtime
>>104653109Yea it's american hours. But why are Americans so horni for pillow?
>>104653126I mean, she IS American. Have we considered that she likes shitposting. It was kinda quiet on here until after stream...
What I need>another Olive collab (literally anything, I just like their banter)>another chilled and long gunpla/zatsu handcam>another vtuber-themed nail collab>solo nail stream>seaweed appearance>GFE VR when she’s feeling better>another creative 360 ASMRI’m also looking forward to the charity goal streams obviously
>>104653244Gunpla is the best shit, it made me want to put a ring on her finger so I can yap with her while she paints her silly toys.
Would pillow perform any sexual act you wanted if you said it would make you happy?
>>104653299She’d be too scared for anything too serious and start crying. She’d still do it, she just wouldn’t enjoy it very much.
Olive using my face as her chair whilst she works from home.
>>104653421You think If I donate enough Pillow will give me Olive’s Discord?
>>104653299Only variations of gentle, loving handjobs
being super affectionate with olive in front of pillow until pillow starts to cry
>>104652985Are you okay
>>104653587I’ll be okay, but I told her only Nene gets to jerk me now, and she’s all pissy. That’s why she ended stream when she did, she saw my message on discord
https://files.catbox.moe/xhtsf0.jpeg
>>104653682Holy hell that's lewd
>>104653682why does she need my seamen?
>>104653682wasn't there another like this with running mascara and a "almost half way done" or did I dream that?
>>104653708because she's going on a voyage across the atlantic and needs all the help she can get
>>104653682Jesus would disapprove.
>>104653749https://files.catbox.moe/70jcyh.jpeg
>>104653784agreed. people need to be aware jesus is coming
>>104653682“You’re not a real piwwo if you want to have a relationship with her”I wanna fuck her in the ass
>>104653775What is she Amelia Airheart?
Anal princess
>>104653804We should convince Pillow to do a Bible reading stream where she explains how she's a good little Christian girl that would only do oral before marriage
>>104653795This is exactly how I want to die
>>104653948she can only do anal and oral to preserve her purity.when you take off her panties she has a bandaid over her pussy
>>104653795I think about this a lot
is baker here?
>>104654458>>104654458>>104654458
blasting a full load into olive
Which Piwwow will commit suicide to be reborn as her firstborn
>>104654793I would