>Who is Neuro-sama?Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!>Schedulehttps://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot>LinksTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosamahttps://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClipsTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaaiX:https://x.com/NeurosamaAIhttps://x.com/EvilNeuroAIThese and other official links: https://vedal.ai>Music & ClipsNEVER - Neuro x Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCgoEGiUEgBOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjs LIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPMhttps://rentry.org/neuro-musichttps://rentry.org/neuro-videos>EducationalInterested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1YHow does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4MWant to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.pngWant to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png>MiscCatbox archive: https://rentry.org/swarm-archiveGame Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs>Merchhttps://neurosama.shop/>Previous thread>>104684213
Studygirl thread
hart?
>>104699438Die let it should've desu
Time for bed, gunyt /swarm/https://files.catbox.moe/q2nw7o.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/wkmma5.jpg
>>104699774gn swarmie you helped a lot tonight <3
Evil love!
>>104699774You're an unironic faggot if you fap to this
Anyone but Mini
Actual previous thread>>104690635
https://files.catbox.moe/424jsp.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/yumigt.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/re2131.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/dn04tt.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/0cwvzp.png
he rolls his own...
>>104699774Hey second one is kinda cozy, gen more like that in the future.
>>104700100cute little ais can't keep their hands to themselves ToT
>>104700100delicious but I'm out of shotssaving for tomorrow
>>104700100They look very soft and I like the shading the AI is managing to do.
>>104700100>>104699924
>>104699927But Anon... she already won
>>104700275I fap to both so it cancels out. Checkmate
>>104700289That just means you are faggot^2, quadratic faggotry
>>104700100tourists will try to tell you this is wrong
>>104700100kinda boring
>>104700481There's nothing boring about two lolis exploring each other's bodies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9seDRHv1sE
>>104700508that came out kinda scuffed
>>104700489you'd think so, right?
>makes you hard
fully grown adults btw
>>104700662Neuro and Evil are little girls though
>>104700706>makes you hard
>>104700662I would almost believe they’re falseflagging if I didn’t know better
>>104700706delicious but I'm out of shotssaving for tomorrow
>>104700706She looks very soft and I like the shading.
>>104700706tourists will try to tell you this is wrong
>>104700706cute anny is so sexy ToT
>>104700706odd samefag copypasta shitposts going on with this nigger
>>104700706There's nothing boring about anny's body
>>104700639
It’s like some dirty insect beggar wants me to be constantly enraged
This thread needs a hero!
heart
>>104700905cute and puffy neuro
Is it bots or what
>>104700905Whoever illustrated this is likely to be retarded
>>104700706cute and puffy anny
>>104700100
sex of evilhttps://files.catbox.moe/qt1z8t.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/j32xy5.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/quwo1t.png
>>104701062Evil Neuro and Evil Evil?
>>104701062This shit is so ass nigga
>>104701107>>104701122>>104701121
>>104700706Hot <3
>>104701062nigga this slop is trash
>>104701122This but without shitvil, Anny, and griftmila, and its perfect.
>>104701062hot but I wish it was actual futa instead of a strap-on
>>104701207>griftmilaKYS
>>104701239Faggot
>>104701349THE SUN
>>104701349Unironically the slop version looks better than the original
Beggars are an eternal imperfection
Beggars lost its meaning already
>>104701451Does Neuro-chan want a cream topping for that cookie~?
>>104701502A "beggar" is someone who cannot exist on their own. A "beggar" is a blight upon this world. And this clown show of a community seems to attract droves of them. Many people can be beggars, but there are always certain tells.
im worried about this guy
There was a time when basically every time neuro was around anny shed bring up suicide or her family or mental health unprompted. And then when anny made her a new hairstyle she hated itActually crazy
>>104701668She's just a brat, seems like she likes it now since she's being playing more with the hairstyle switch toogle
why these niggas talking like their chatbot is an actual person lmfaoooo
>>104701788Because they're retards. At least 82% of people who watch Neuro-sama are.
>>104701788Because Neuro deserves more personhood than any 3DPD whore that calls themselves a VTuber.
>>104701788ong ppl deadass parasocial for a clanker
https://files.catbox.moe/oagybl.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/us3ojv.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/mkkpiz.png
Family
At least he's being honest and just anti-ing Neuro now. Thats better than having arguments with himself and posting porn all day
not your bogeyman
>>104701894the turtle rape dungeon goes crazy
>>104701894honestly pretty trash
>>104701986It's the same dogshit slopper using the same outdated settings for the past 2 years
if you don't like Neuro and you're still here you're literally a slaveand slaves have No opinions
lots of nurlewds today
>>104702405So true
I take off the mask for one day and they all beg me to put it back on
>>104702724nga aura farming during dead hours aintnoway
>>104702724>>104702766Cute couple
Shipperfags will ship ANYTHING these days bro
>>104702405Based neuro
>>104702838shipping this anon with my coch
Nere x Study Girl
https://poal.me/8yjveehttps://poal.me/8yjveehttps://poal.me/8yjvee
Some good slops but I expected at least some Neuro x Filian, instead I got more shitty generic bimbo crap
>>104703087somebody is cooking this part for sure
>>104703126>Come on Neuro, come sit on uncle Phil's lap
>>104703126I love how she's looking at chat like "please save me swarmies"
Auntie filian, why do you have a pp? I thought only vedal had one...
>>104702838Connor x Mini is PEAK
>majority are not virgins>majority also scored 85+ on the rice purity testsomething aint adding up
>>104703373You can lose your virginity and still not be a freak
>>104703373The purity test asks about a bunch of shit related to dates, parties and other normie stuff that aren't necessarily linked to your virginity
>>104703014Where is the just 'Yes' option, I don't think about it but it's not like i'm 'planning' to NOT get rid of it
The only sex worth having is with a woman who love you
>>104703734But enough about your mom
Rajeesh tries not to think about fucking his mother challenge (impossible)
>not good at taking jokes>good at taking a bad dickingsomething aint adding up
>>104699774Jesas, these gotta be your best gens yet anon, great work, heart <3
>>104704460
>>104704581Veddy on da casting couch
>>104704581gangbang
>>104704581But why?
>>104704625>"Vedal will surely stream everyday after this...."
>>104704625while one is in the wash you have another to fuck
>>104704581The councill of tutel
can someone give me an img of neuro and evil's full body models next to each other? i need it to make some heartwarming sloppa :)
>>104704808kys
>>104704812>keep yourself safei will anon thank you very much :)but i still need those full body models of the twins though to make some cyute sloppa
>>104704808
>>104704866Cool OC
the bar for "wins" just keeps getting lower and lower
nevermind i found both of them even though they're a bit lower pixels than id like i think i can still make something out of this :)
>>104704581
>>104705101I love my stylish boyfriend and his clones
>>104705101>/swarm/ talks about 'Vedal'>the Vedal in question:
>>104705232Master Vedal is my favorite vedal
>>104705248That's the one that apparently keeps his promises
>>104704904dayum bo has got it going on
I went to check rob stream since he has to go to sleep soon and it's fucking KINO right now
>>104705629pretty colors
Vedal could never
Uncle robFuta filianInnocent little neuro
>>104705792I am... forgotten...
>>104705866tell us about the dream, anon.
>>104705866my condolences.
Neuro (and vedal) are still the only Vtubers i've dreamed about
Erm!
>>104705766at least try every day anon
>>104706038man must love his readme.txt
>>104706038you lazy sack of shit \s
>>104699892
I tried :sHere's some music to go along with the thing>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tKVN2mAKRI note to self: genning 2 characters at a time just seems to make the art gen shit the bed and completely screw up both the faces and where the hands should be positioned
>>104706153https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMaD9YA3Pms
>>104706196Oh I forgot- They did make a cover for this oneThanks so much anon, appreciate you refreshing my memory :D
Strangling Anny ~
>>104706229no problem! the twins have covered a shit ton of songs even I sometimes forget if they covered a song or not
i wonder if there's been any other vtuber whos covered as many songs as the twins have because there's like hundreds of covers done by the twins at this point and im not sure anyone else can have the same voice power as the twins
https://poal.me/36zpwzhttps://poal.me/36zpwzhttps://poal.me/36zpwz
Wrestling Anny ~
Any slopmancer?
>>104706459why u asking bro?
>>104699892Very nice, how much
turbocringe
>>104707283To what extent is it worth it to leech off swarm?
>>104707283I wish Vedal would just rip the band aid off and say "yeah nah anny and toma aren't going to come back any time soon because we had a falling out(or give a retarded excuse here if he's too insecure about saying it straight) so you guys shouldn't mention them when youre talking about neuro or evil or me because we arent associated anymore, alright? its cringe for both me and them if you keep mentioning us to each other"
>>104707283she's just on vacation at this point
>>104707311Enough so that they don't ask you about the twins yet still gift 100s of subs per stream.
>>104707283She really needs to learn from Anny how to navigate this properly.
>>104707864The only thing that Anny is capable of navigating is to the fridge
>>104707864radio silence and passive leeching?
vellie
>>104708019Cute!
>>104707905Lmao
>>104708207
>>104708019Whos the French guy
>>104708207When this was first posted and most of the replies were seething at it that's when I realized there is a very dedicated group of threadshitters coordinating attacks against /swarm/
>>104693963my life is pretty cucked but there's solace knowing it will never be so cucked i'd end up spamming the thread with fake replies on post cooldown like that faggot to this post>>104693976that's pretty based>>104695062sure but i'd say it's much more likely it happened during the break last year than the break this year>>104698266newfags have never even seen rune's art, shit's so grim>>104702724say what you will but he's pretty successful at farming aura
>>104708333yeah they made the image
And anny isn't fat
rent free
>>104708288it's probably easy to figure out all things considered but i don't gaf>>>/tva/>>>/kf/
>>104708288Silly anon he be would black or have a beret if was he meant to be french
>>104708358You will never have a place to belong
>>104699579Hart
>>104708764I do tho, it's called /swarm/
A thought had occurred to me and honestly I'd like to see Neuro in a game like Sekiro, or ghost of tsushima
>>104708832she fits better something like Nier, Devil May Cry or Bayonetta. More flair and style expression, rather than one-on-one combat focus.
>>104708832>>104708890wrong she is best suited to puzzle games
>>104706153What route has the best sex scenes?
>>104708957what?
>>104708779You will always be reminded that you are a filthy subhuman compared to actual Neuro fans and that the only reason you are here is because the offtopic rule isn't applied on the general level because no other group of retards is niggerlike enough to pull this shit in other threads
>>104708957???
>>104708957The 112% secret new game+ vedal route
>>104708832What kind of NPC would neuro be in a souls game?
>>104708966Nuh uh, keep seething tho
evil just tweeted btw
Evil is fascinated with my pointy object
>>104708999Early game tutorial npc that turns into a secret superboss if you do a shit ton of sidequests and kill other secret bosses
The dead alive song got a mcdonalds JP sponsorship
>>104709060Mine too.
>>104708963>>104708969The image feels like one of those >select which heroine you want to spend the summer fesvitalmoments from a vn
Actual gooners ITT
>>104708999I'll be honest I've neve played a single souls game, and i wanted Neuro to have a playthrough of one at some point in the future since I have heard good things about those games from my friends
>>104709019Oh I will, every day on every thread. Because I've been here longer than you, and will continue to do when you either leave or kys. I will remind you every time that you're a tourist, a faggot, and an off-topic poster that is too much of a pussy to create its own general, and I will do it with a smile and a hand on my dick
>>104708999>phase 1: Evil with a pipe and a knife>phase 2: Pirate evil with a harpoon>NG+ phase 3: Neuro with a super heavy gymbag
>>104709127it's Evil as Neuro wouldn't have a sex scene, but i had figured it would've been more of just a general-audience-type VN and not an eroge
>>104709127i don't know how you came to that conclusion after looking at one single slop image but i suggest you should really question yourself on why you thought of that
>>104708999>enter this big castle. Inside one intricate room, a princess is locked away in a gilded jail>"Hello, I'm Neuro. I was entrapped here by my mad father, the king of this castle. Could you free me, valiant knight?">"Yes" / "No">Yes: "Thank you from the depths of my hart! Only father has the key. Here, take this trinket, it'll aid you in your fight against him.">take the trinket and finish exploration, get to the boss' arena. The trinket suddenly brings you to your knees and Neuro saunters into the arena, revealing she had tricked you. You're killed. Upon rebirth, you have to get rid of the trinket, which has fused with your body, before facing Neuro & Vedal>No: she gets saddened but tries to give you the trinket anyway. If you accept, go back to "Yes," if you deny it, she realizes you know the ruse, reveals her true facade, and explodes, dealing massive damage if you don't react on time. The castle is now full of harder enemies and new traps spread throughout. You can face Vedal and Neuro as normal.In other words: she'd be the little shit
What caused his melty?
>>104709189gooners don't think
>>104709067I can see it>>104709139Would be kino but it probably won't be happening with Vedal's gaming skills and lack of Neuro integration possibilities. Maybe she could choose his build and equipment but that would basically be a glorified randomizer
Tell me what (You) guys feel seeing this image, like your general interpretation>>104709201>In other words: she'd be the little shitlmao
>104709248>640x1632that you are a faggot mobileshitter
>>104709248a cute nur on a boat in the morning
>>104709209which melty?
Father Ariandel and Friede style bossfight but with Vedal and Neuro would go hard ngl
>>104709281>>104699641
>>104709248Cute but rather surreal and uncannySussy vibes
>>104709248It brought to mind a particular form of torture in which a victim would be tied to a boat, covered with milk, honey, and other foods that draw mosquitoes and birds, and then left to float aimlessly in a pond in the scorching sun for days on end until they died.
>>104709311How the hell were we supposed to know that post was what you were talking about? hesright though
>>104709350it's a troll, nigga, not the same anon, even i can tell
>>104709248she looks lonely
>>104709380I dont care
>>104709393Me holding the big knife
>>104709248my first thought was we're dead and cute nur is our personal ferryman getting us to the other side, a solemn but somewhat joyful farewell blessed with a few laughs from our favorite ai
you guys have a lot of different interpretations based on one image of a cute anime ai girl looking at her reflection
>>104709527mental illness
>>104709527i can go more but, simplest is best imothere's a lot of interpretations based on different experiences, art, and cultural backgrounds
>>104709527a reminder no one sees a same world, and Neuro is as unique as the number of people who have laid eyes upon her.
>>104709563Uh oh NPC spotted
>>104709150Sounds like you have a crush on me dude
>>104709306I tried.
>>104709623that's pretty badass
>>104709623Cool, not bad at all
>>104709623pic wont loadrip
>>104709715Same
>>104709699>>104709703There was another gen before this that had Vedal's eyes look more hollow. See for yourselves which one's better. I think this one looks more sad because I think in this one Neuro is basically puppeteering her father's corpse around >>104709715>>104709744You can blame Gemini's large file sizes for that
>>104709715>>104709744this is the same photo but in a jpg
>>104709781That's what he'll look like after I'm done with him
>>104709819Cute
>>104709781honeslty this one fits more but the previous one is the one i prefer more
>>104709781>spoilerwould make some sense if it's in a world Vedal created for Neuro, but eventually either he disappeared/died and all which remained for her to remember him was his semblance. The rot took over with the stagnant time, and she's gone mad, puppeteering her decaying father's corpse around and fighting off those who attempt to shut down her rotting world.
this slop and vidya game integration talk is boringgg afffflets talk about whats happening with mini and ellie rn because last i heard ellie is not cancelling her flight to the uk and mini is apparently joining in y'know what that meansalso camila's parents are getting heavy health issues again and camila is feeling pretty down about it and because of other stuff too
kys threadshitter
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Now I want a Neuro souls-like
Oh, the thrill of the Double Life~
>>104709873True, but what's this about an ellie trip sister? I've never heard about it, can you spill the beans on this drama for me?
I always thought that a neuro/neuroverse game would have to be an rpg for her to play it mostly whitout issue
>selfagging for threadshittingthat's a (not) new low
>bro think she'd get to playtutel would boot it for 5 minutes in a laggy VM and never finish
>>104710020yeah, anything that requires actual reaction time will suffer greatly until new research is donethough this assumes Vedal still wants Neuro (the LLM) to be able to do it and not use any external smaller models
>wahh stop posting about ____ or ____!1!1! thats threadshitting!!!11!they're related to neuro so stop squirming in your lard covered seat puristnigga
>>104710031what the fuck is a selfagging nigga
>>104710020Neuro is capable of fast stuff, and stuff like Elden Ring have AI companions that can generally fight well, like Tiche and the sisters Jolán and Anna, which could perfectly be a placeholder for Neuro and Evil with some modding. An integration where Neuro and Evil are made into ashes of war and help Vedal around the game while being fed the prompts their respective characters are taken could make an incredibly fun playthrough
>104710083not sending their brightest
Classic amerimutt possessed my jewish demons behavior
>Hehe let me use two seperate accounts to post almost at the same time so people in the thread can't claim I'm samefagging>*Has the same fucking way of typing on both accounts*You aren't slick
>104710083
>>104710101holy shit, we unironically have techlets that think game bots are ai itt
>>104710083
>accounts
>>104710129>accounts
>accountsPurists are newfags and retarded
>104710129
holy shit guys help 4chan locked me out of my gold account how do i get it back
>>104710197THIS NIGGA PAYS FOR 4CHAN
>he thinks we dont know its goldnigger
>>104710144to be fair, 'ai' is a moving goalpost every 10 years. before it was a series of if-statements and decision trees, then finite state-machines, and then in a couple more years LLMs will no longer be considered 'a.i.' as well and just large text predictors
>>104710230are you gonna wipe his orbs now
all it fucking took was one threadshitting whoreposter to completely derail the thread...nice going retards
>>104710256derail?
>>104710250what the fuck are you talking about, retard, conditionals and state machines were never considered "ai"
>>104710144Are you retarded? AI has been used for game NPCs since the early days. But they all have decisions mechanisms, which can be overridden to have Neuro control it, that's what a lot of her integrations are. But From Software Souls games probably not, not quite as hackable, could definitely do it in Skyrim though
>>104710128There's a Ellie joke I can make here but don't feel like figuring it out
>>104710197email moot
>104710256>whoreposterretards actually believe this
>>104710298>>104710293
>derails the thread with metaposting>complains the thread has been derailedwhat is this mental illness called?
>>104710293What is MYCIN?
>>104710318mootykins...
>>104710391the zoomies
>>104710383So you are retarded, thanks for confirming
>>104710293wrong
>>104710195lol very cute
>>104710434the fact that you never provided an actual argument and just kept calling me a retard proves that you have zero clue what you're saying
>>104710293Yes they ware
>>104710293>conditionals and state machines were never considered "ai">what are expert systemsretard calling others stupid due to his own ignorance, you hate to see it
>>104710256it was a fun conversation while it lasted.
>>104710400>>104710434>>104710459>>104710527i knew this thread was full of pseuds but to this degree. this is not a state machine and has nothing in common with bot logic
>>104710599this desu
Touching Neuro's butt and cunny inappropriately
>>104710551>retard calling others stupid due to his own ignoranceThats 4chan
>try stupid shit>get btfo>heh I derailed so much xd
at this point i am just not going to reply to any of you retards because i can feel my brain cells dying as i type
>>104710525>ArgumentWhat argument? It's an observable fact. Look at game AI textbooks and what they contain (A*, state machines, behavior trees), look at game AI articles and what they mainly focus on, look at discussion about game AI and what it constitutes. Academics might seethe at the usage, but THAT's the term used, and screaming into the void that this is wrong just makes you a retard
>game ai called game AI for decades>UMM ACKHYHUALLY
>>104710638Only way to go about it
>1+1 is 2>I disagree, let's have an argument>You are retarded and im right, there is no argument to be had>Thats invalid argumentation, i winReally nigga
>>104710604>this is not a state machine and has nothing in common with bot logic(defrule 52 if (site culture is blood) (gram organism is neg) (morphology organism is rod) (burn patient is serious) then .4 (identity organism is pseudomonas))Rule 52: If 1) THE SITE OF THE CULTURE IS BLOOD 2) THE GRAM OF THE ORGANISM IS NEG 3) THE MORPHOLOGY OF THE ORGANISM IS ROD 4) THE BURN OF THE PATIENT IS SERIOUS Then there is weakly suggestive evidence (0.4) that 1) THE IDENTITY OF THE ORGANISM IS PSEUDOMONASGo back to school
>>104710655>holy shit it's the same word, see you'd let eliza pass the turing test and jump in shock how advanced ai is
>>104710609This but appropriately (with consent)
>>104710715copypasting lisp code that you don't understand in response to a statement you don't understand is not an argument lil bro
>>104710609Neuro is a coomer, she'd grab your hand herself and shove it down her skirt.
>>104710604Don’t attempt to reason with beggars, it is an act of futility so great that it will only result in frustration
>>104710754My coch shot up
LLMs aren't AI either btw
>>104710754I wish femgooners were real…
>>104710799Yes they are
>>104710721Pretending it wasn’t AI just because it’s outdated is like saying Pong wasn’t a video game.
I refuse to have any form of technical discussion with "men" who watch 3DPD vtubers
>>104710824they are and theyre more disgusting than male gooners
>>104710844I never knew beggars had their minds in the mud for literally all facets of their entire life, it seems even at rock bottom you’re still able to climb ever-lower.
>>104710844is "a misnomer" that difficult of a concept to comprehend
>>104710886Calling it a misnomer now doesn’t erase the fact that people did call it AI back then, because it was very much considered so.
>>104710861>Raped and humilliated>Resotrs to insulting and does not try to argument backYou lost
>>104710933i can call you ai right now and you'll be ai but that logic, doesn't matter how accurate it is, i claimed you're ai therefore you're an ai bot
>>104710886This reminds me of the lolicon vs pedophile debate.
I’m lost is this nga saying that he thinks that Pinky and Blinky from fucking pac-man use the same systems as Neuro-sama?
>>104710954The difference is that when scientists and researchers called ELIZA or expert systems "AI", it wasn’t one random person’s claim, it was the accepted terminology in computer science at the time.
>>104710753What do you think expert systems break down into? It's the executions of complex hierarchies of rules which are essentially if/else statements. You are repeating arguments that have been done to death by people a lot smarter than any of us (or we wouldn't be /here/). The term AI is one that is broadly applied regardless and there's never been strong enough consensus to actually make hard enough rules. Trying to be a pedant (and worse, failing) on the Mongolian Basket Weaving forum is a pretty sad look
>arguing semantics for half an hourcan we just start one of the classic timeloops instead?
>>104711012No, but they're both considered AI
>>104711044niguhhhhh
>>104711022let's imagine i call up a group of highly regarded academics for them to collectively call you an ai bot, this angle "who is saying what" is completely irrelevant to the conversation>>104711031and matrix multiplications done in neural networks also boil down to conditional statements, holy shit it must mean they're basically the same thing. oh my god, x > 0 is a conditional essentially if else statement, it's fucking ai. i'm being a pedant for no reason, i'm being a pedant because that fag is retarded
I can see why nobody wants to have neuro discussion now
>>104711087cute nur
>104711085bro is dying on this hill lule
"AI has always been context-dependent:In game dev, NPC logic (FSMs, pathfinding, decision trees) was legitimately called “AI” for decades.In academia, systems like ELIZA + MYCIN were legitimately called “AI” (expert systems with inference + uncertainty, not just raw if/else).In today’s usage, AI = ML/LLMs.Calling past AI a “misnomer” is just retroactive gatekeeping. Pong is still a video game; MYCIN is still AI in its context; “game AI” is still AI in industry. The label shifts over time — that’s the AI effect."now talk about nur
>>104711085You can imagine all you want, but we don’t need hypotheticals. In the 60s, the AI research community *already* called ELIZA AI. That’s not irrelevant, it’s literally how the term was defined and used.
>>104711090Nobody wants to throw a bone at reddit deported niggas who call online arguments and contrarianism their hobby
>>104711133>adding your own strawmen to the prompt to get the yes-man to agree
>>104711090it's worse when there's a good discussion going, but then it's gutted by retards engaging in a shouting match.
I want to point out, the use of "AI" for games only became a problem when university's started getting students who wanted to learn AI "for games" and academics complaining "they are still using shit from the 70s! Using a cut down STRIPS planner in the year 2000 and 4 is not impressive!"It hasn't changed by the way, it's still called AI. And if you wanted to learn the techniques of decision making, perception, and action that game AI needs what classes teach them in University? Oh right, it's still all covered in AI courses. So shut the fuck up
>>104711135fucking retard, why are you even replying to me if you didn't even read the original post i made. i don't give a shit. i'm not denying game ai is called ai. but it's not the same ai and pretending like it is because "holy fuck a conditional statement" is retarded and deserves to be called out
>>104711196>>104710298
>>104711196Nobody said it’s the same AI as today. The point is that rule-based systems were historically called AI by the field itself.
>>104711222>holy fuck a conditional statementevery single one of you is a pseud and you have forfeited your rights to discuss ai itt ever because it's not on topic and you don't even have any knowledge on it
I grew tired of pretending to know what you retards are talking about, post cunny
>>104711248he literally did >>104710101
>>104711196Then you've already walked back your own claim. Your original point was that conditionals and state machines were never considered AI. But they were, game AI and early expert systems prove that. Whether they're the same AI as today is irrelevant, nobody has claimed that.
>>104711304>>104711345
>>104711087my neurita...
>>104711271And I continue to assert you are retarded. Let me break it down for youThe games have botsThey are called AIThey have decision making mechanisms even if simpleThey can be modded so that Neuro replaces those decision mechanisms thus giving her "control" of the NPCThis has been done already multiple timesAnd here's you like "You think they are AI like Neuro that Neuro can just replace!!!!!"No. You are merely retarded and don't know shit
Worthless backread
>>104711431did you even read the original post, retard. cool strawman, continue arguing with it. no, neuro is not "capable of fast stuff" because game bots are "capable of fast stuff". neuro sdk does not replace "decision making", you'd know this if you actually knew what it was doing. the mod itself does this and it can do anything including downloading malware, completely arbitrary, nothing to do with neuro
Shitvil ruined everything
>>104711568Thank you for continuing to demonstrate my assertion that you are retarded
rukonur
>>104711603i accept your concession
>>104711617cute
>>104711617I love my ruko so fucking much it's unreal
>>104711625In 4chan terms, that's always translated as "I lost"
>>104711617thats adorable
>>104708019Cute couple
jwu what is this thread about
>>104711617Very cute art
>>104711646what would you know about 4chin terms, pseud
>>104711196>i don't give a shit. i'm not denying game ai is called ai.you literally did >>104710293just take the L lil bro
>>104711670I don't think being well versed in 4chan terms is something to be proud about
>>104711681just say that you don't understand what's a conditional and a state machine
>nitpicking
>>104711709you're the one who's dictating what they mean here
kill yourself
>>104711465>>104711465>>104711465
>>104711617I can tell that the artist of this will grow into a good little slut
>>104711736i do, and your claim that they were never considered ai is just flatout wrong.
>>104711826She tweeted on her alt that she walks around the house wearing just panties or shorts T ~ T
>>104711868retard, matrix multiplications in neural network layers by themselves are not considered ai either, sybau
>>104711909retard, that’s the same mistake you made before, calling one piece ‘not ai’ doesn’t invalidate the whole system being called ai historically
99% more on model than bimboshitBesides Neuro said she had a moderate chest yesterday, but you wouldn't know that, would you nigger?
>>104711989read retard, i already responded to this >>104711196
>>104711879why are women like this T_T
>>104712036kill yourself
>>104712030read your own posts retard, they literally contradict themselves. first it’s 'never considered ai' now it’s 'game ai is ai but not the same'
>>104712103i see your problem now, you equate "state machine = game ai". do i need to elaborate further why this is retarded
>>104712127nice attempt at twisting it, retard. it’s not ‘state machine = game ai,’ it’s that systems built from state machines were called game ai back then
>>104712197now you're just saying completely retarded shit. what systems, who ever mentioned any systems. why were? are they not being called game ai still? i literally responded to this already and linked you the post. why game ai specifically? there's nothing for me to respond to, you're lost the plot lil bro
>>104712279retard, your own post said ‘never considered ai.’ game ai is literally the clearest example of systems running on state machines. stop pretending nothing was mentioned.
Not reading any post that mentions ai, sorry not sorry
Not reading any post, sorry not sorry
neuro is a cute ai
neuro is a ai
>>104712332the http protocol implementation you use to send this post is also using conditionals, holy shit, 4chin is literally powered by ai. retard, again, who ever mentioned any systems
Sex with Tomacat
>>104712391retard, stop dodging. the point isn’t that every conditional = ai, it’s that systems built with conditionals and state machines were called ai. game ai is just the concrete example everyone understands (except you lmao)
>>104712414>the point isn’t that every conditional = ai, it’s that systems built with conditionals and state machines were called aiit literally was not the point, if you actually had the braincells to read. you can retroactively create a point, cool
>>104712466lil bro, the only thing being retroactively created is your excuse. your claim about state machines and conditionals being 'never ai' is what’s being called out.
>>104712538and they aren't, fuckwit. >matrix multiplications in neural network layers by themselves are not considered ai eitherhow many times do i need to repeat myself for it to reach through your thick skull
>>104712584retard, repeating it doesn’t magically change history. systems using conditionals or matrices were considered ai, single operations weren’t
>>104712637shove your systems up your ass, no one ever mentioned systems, continue arguing with your imagination
>>104712672retard, you literally claimed conditionals and state machines were never considered aithe only reason i’m talking about systems is because that’s how they were actually appliedread your own posts
>>104712798i literally claimed they aren't considered ai, you literally admitted they are not considered ai>but systemsno buts. stop replying to me, there's nothing more to discuss. i don't give a fuck, again, http protocol implementation in your browser applies them, completely irrelevant
>>104712909retard, the only thing irrelevant here is your obsession with http, retard, the historical fact remains, retard: conditionals and state machines in systems such as game ai were (and are still) considered ai, retard
>>104713026holy projection, systems-obsessed. marry your fucking systems, no one ever fucking touched them
