>JPs numbers start falling >"quick cater to foreigners!"Why is this so common?
>>104778158There are literally more than ten times as many English speakers in the world as there are Japanese speakers.
Maybe she should try pandering to homobeggars and DABOIZ which she loved to do as A-Chan
>>104778158>Streams when half of the world are working and the other half are sleeping>Worries about numbersSomething doesn't add up with your narratives
>>104778158the fuwamoco way
>>104778158Is it? From what I can see they've mostly given up on that since it hasn't worked for years, and in reality just makes numbers go down further.
Based Japanese Vtubers thread?
>>104778158she needs to eat and buy necessities anon, just like you
>>104778785Is it really a Japanese or a fake japanese? The japs are quick on sniffing wannabes out
>>104779121https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mlQDPeeMVQ0
A little too late, I like her though and probably will watch the VOD, but most EOP already slipped her seeing she didn't do shit during her first month, even stopped doing comments in EN.
A chan is using a butt plug while she plays games? That's pretty hot.
>>104778158JPs really can't survive without the EN audience. It was the debut of Myth that made hololive itself relevant in the first plate.
>>104778158Makes me glad that Haachama got humbled for doing this shit so often.
>>104779146If she ain't lying then she grew up in a house with a fluent english parent and is likely a half-elf. She doesn't have the usual inflections a native speaker learning eigo would have.
>>104779146Maybe SEA or japanese only in blood. There is a reason she is hiding all her japanese only streams.
>>104780331Jesus Christ
>>104778158Didn't she say she wanted to eventually do EN only streams on her debut in the first place?And speaking fluent english was part of her primary profile even during her corp days.
>>104782286She did, so always take catalog bait threads with a grain of salt. They always sensationalize activity into bottom of the barrel drama.
>>104778241There are literally more than ten times as many Japanese viewers in the world who actually watch vtuber streams than there are English viewers.
>>104778436Anon that's how hemispheres work
>>104782172>English speakers see clips translated and have fun>Start showing up for streams here and there>Cover sees an increase in English speaking people interested in vtubing>Decides to make HoloEN>Literally blows JP out of the water in almost every single case and competes with the highest of high viewerships>All the JP start doing 'English' and 'Learning English' streams trying to ride th wave>All of EN hits 1m subs, Gura and Mori hit 2m, all in record time>Even CCV of the runt of Myth, Kiara, outdoes 3/4ths of JP talentsI dunno man. They lost their steam after there wasn't a third gen in 2022.
>>104783599None of this ever happened lol.
>>104783599To be clear the most popular holos in hololive are the JP members. Even when gura was around her viewership wasn't as big as miko. The reason why the JP members dropped all the EN pandering is because all the EN tourists left.
>>104783860No surprise /jp/ retards would want to live in their own made up reality. No wonder a big source of shitposting comes from you fags
>>104784017Someone's mad that EN was a complete and uttter flop lol. How does it feel to be the WNBA of vtubing?
>>104783927So Gura was pushing the same level as Miko during the first few years. You admit that a majority of the JP talents had dogshit viewership and tried to leech EN fans to get to their 1m sub goal, which most got to far later than all of Myth.
>>104778158She probably just wants to leverage how popular she was with English speakers. Fans loved it every time she interacted with EN.
>>104784117So you admit that EN was a flash in the pan and ultimately the EN market was utterly worthless seeing as how nobody stuck around. Thanks for playing.
>>104784167EN helped give JP a jumpstart which put them on the map and have them the NUMBERS they needed for faggot old Jap businessmen to give them a shot.
>>104784117idk why you're so mad and aggro. The narrative that you're trying to push is simply incorrect, in literally every metric you can look at JP members are more popular. Income, viewership, merch, etc. I'm not even a JP fag, you're just wrong. You're basically arguing the equivalent of saying that ID is more popular than EN.
>>104784218>source, my assJP already was on its idol path had its own yearly concerts and company wide events like the minecraft sportsfest before the ENferiors came aboard to leech on its success. Nothing about EN changed the way JP was run. Nice cope though.
>>104778785Another English speaking Japanese girl to add to my collection.
>>104778785I don't trust whores to cater to westerners
>>104780331kill yourself retard
>>104783599nice headcanontake your meds
>>104783599More like Yagoo took all the money they made from Gura opening the west and invested it into JP completely ignoring EN.Zero business infrastructure to this day in america.Negligible amounts of advertising in america.Taking years to produce any english songs.Still can't bother to hire someone to figure out how rights for covers work outside of Japan.Only invests in EN talents that move to japan and speak japanese.Holo abandoned the west from the start; it was only being held up by Gura's star power and without her it is a house of bots ready to collapse.
>>104784949EN will always play second fiddle to the big guns in Japan because the EN market is worthless. You could close the whole EN branch tomorrow and the effects would be completely neglible.
>>104782593So it evens out thenBy speaking English they're appealing to the other half of viewers
>>104784949The music thing is literally your problem for living in a third-world country, the talents have addressed this. The exploitative amount of money your banking class demand to perform their songs is not worth it. It would be throwing money in a burning pit for no reason.
>>104785138Hey buddy you got the wrong door, nijisanji is two blocks down
>>104786023Don't be mad at the truth ENcel.
>>104786046You can stop seething about EN existing anytime jpiggy
>>104786085You can stop being jealous of JP absolutely owning your bitch ass ENcel.
>>104780331EN fag fans like you should have been Gatekeeped from the start. It's retarded takes like this that show how fucking stupid you are. That's almost as stupid as saying anime couldn't have survived with an EN audience. Just fuck off you dumb nigger.
>All these fagd saying /jp/ better>All typed in englishEN won.
>>104778158it's almost like it's an international medium or something!
>>104779146Forget the language. That sounds like a guy using a voice-changer.
>>104782593There's more than a 100% chance you're pulling that data out your ass
>>104778158b to feed
>>104787557>>104788387Uh oh jpiggy melty
>>104778158The nips crave the big white cock
as you say it's made for bloating numbers but I don't think it is done with malice. some jp vtubers used to do that with spanish some years ago
>>104778372A-chan quit to become a vtuber? Why didn't hololive just let A-chan be a normal vtuber?
>>104778158>plug & play in 2025
>>104779460This, I was so bummed out how blunt her response was to the EOP marshmallow. I get that taking a year off can make one rusty with a language but even with that rust she probably could outdo 95% of JP streamers. She missed an opportunity to be something akin to Henya, maye she can reel that back in somewhat but we will see.
>>104788387Without us and without Coco's influence at that critical moment, Nijisanji would still be ahead of Hololive.You're Welcome.
>>104778158nip money is worth basically nothing compared to USD
>>104791747>usROFLLemao even
>>104791061Where are your numbers ENcel? Oh that's right, they're at the bottom of the mariana trench. Why don't ENcels watch vtubers, ENcel?
>>104778158Always kill a traitor before an enemy, Jimbo
>>104784949>invested it into JP completelyand by JP he meant Holoearth
/jp/spies learn their plcae
>>104793068JPwhores lust for western cock while jpiggies can only yell encel over and over, TOPKEK
>Can’t hit 10k for a solo stream.>Merch only sold 4k despite a 200k debut.>Branch concert barely sold out, even though it was smaller than a JP solo concert.Yagoo is so stupid for abandoning such a promising market.
>>104778158ringfit or asmr a-chan. also get a sexier otufit. i'll check out the english stream.
>>104794404But he didn't tho, despite five years of jpiggies seething
>>104783332the sun moves east to west not north to southi swear to god the fucking retards on this board these days..
>>104779121They love FWMC though
>>104788387Anime would be dead if it were not for Americans and later Chinese who came to adore it. You don't understand how markets work, but that's okay. I can smell the braindead lefty in you.
>>104784949Don't forgot his insistence on ruining Holo with StarsEN. Can't believe Yagook got gifted a trillionaire business and still blew it.
>>104782593Based on what metrics? Numbers you pulled out of your ass?Even if that was true the JP market is more than saturated with talent, and theres simply more room to grow in other markets like Spanish speaking and English speaking markets.
>>104793068EN have actual achievements that are not just meaningless numbers.
>>104795378The only competitive thing about EN is the numbers, and they’re losing.
>>104795022>>104791747>>104791061Dumb niggers like you are so funny. It's hilarious how deluded you are. Fuck off to you whore vtubers and stop pretending to know what's best for medias you invaded.
>>104795616No I don't think I will
>>104795795You and your little dick will you little virgin fag.
>>104796098Your jpsie seethe is amusing, give me more
>>104795562They're winning in every place that actually matters
>>104796120Go back to your tin hut. You saying that's amusing is as bad as saying your mother being a whore is amusing. Facts are hard to take when you're wrong.
>>104796193That a take so bad, I can't even laugh..
>>104796267Ah I love the smell of jpiggies seething in the morning
>>104796371Yeah cause you're seething instead
>>104796457No, I'm getting 2nd hand embarrassment. You should be ashamed
>>104796446Hahaha, nice try kun.
>>104796649Now say that without crying
>>104778158You only need the blue Doritos label to attract Western viewers. They are easy to farm.
>>104796981But she doesn't have that logo...
>>104794404Yagoo is a retard but the Homo fan is right that he's never abandoned EN, his whole thing is dreaming of somehow taking failures and turning them into successes after he got high on his own farts with JP. He prefers the failures.
I'm hijacking this thread to use for discussing Rei's stream.Rei cute
>>104797570This kind of discussion has become a trend.Cover has actually put more resources into EN/ID (and Holostars) than their market share would justify, whether out of poor judgment or as a long-term investment depending on your interpretation.People are seething because they believe they deserve better treatment than that.
>>104778436Anon just discovering that we live on a sphere
>>104797681She is adorable and seems to enjoy interacting with her English audience. I hope she does more English streams in the future.
>>104778158i can't put my finger on it, but i feel like i've seen that exact face on another jp/id/kr indie vtuber. it just feels really really familiar.
>>104798095No actually people, and I use that term very loosely, are seething because their pure Japanese company isn't a pure Japanese company anymore and that's driven five years of seethe
>>104798095>Cover has actually put more resources into EN/ID than their market share would justifyNo they have not. EN had the biggest market share for a full year while all of their resources were being taken away
Well that was alright, better than expected even even though it didn't have the old a-chan chill energy but that kind of thing can't be helped really, anyways subscribed again.
>>104798095Sure, that's why just slapping a couple pictures of Gura on a rando acquarium insta resurrected it and had people fighting to get in.
>>104778158Isn't she vtubing part time?Also I don't think she had the expectation that she was going to be a powerhouse streamer. She very familiar with how streaming works.
>>104796873I can't. I'm laughing at you. I know you're upset wog. But that's fine, you'll get over it.
>>104798695That literally did not happen.
>>104798736You haven't gotten over it in five years tho?
>>104795123Stars didn't ruin anything. They were going well until they ended up arguing with the two members that were drawing numbers and attention.
>>104798778Except it did.