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>JPs numbers start falling
>"quick cater to foreigners!"
Why is this so common?
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>>104778158
There are literally more than ten times as many English speakers in the world as there are Japanese speakers.
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Maybe she should try pandering to homobeggars and DABOIZ which she loved to do as A-Chan
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>>104778158
>Streams when half of the world are working and the other half are sleeping
>Worries about numbers
Something doesn't add up with your narratives
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>>104778158
the fuwamoco way
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>>104778158
Is it? From what I can see they've mostly given up on that since it hasn't worked for years, and in reality just makes numbers go down further.
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Based Japanese Vtubers thread?
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>>104778158
she needs to eat and buy necessities anon, just like you
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>>104778785
Is it really a Japanese or a fake japanese? The japs are quick on sniffing wannabes out
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>>104779121
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mlQDPeeMVQ0
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A little too late, I like her though and probably will watch the VOD, but most EOP already slipped her seeing she didn't do shit during her first month, even stopped doing comments in EN.
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A chan is using a butt plug while she plays games? That's pretty hot.
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>>104778158
JPs really can't survive without the EN audience. It was the debut of Myth that made hololive itself relevant in the first plate.
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>>104778158
Makes me glad that Haachama got humbled for doing this shit so often.
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>>104779146
If she ain't lying then she grew up in a house with a fluent english parent and is likely a half-elf. She doesn't have the usual inflections a native speaker learning eigo would have.
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>>104779146
Maybe SEA or japanese only in blood. There is a reason she is hiding all her japanese only streams.
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>>104780331
Jesus Christ
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>>104778158
Didn't she say she wanted to eventually do EN only streams on her debut in the first place?
And speaking fluent english was part of her primary profile even during her corp days.
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>>104782286
She did, so always take catalog bait threads with a grain of salt. They always sensationalize activity into bottom of the barrel drama.
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>>104778241
There are literally more than ten times as many Japanese viewers in the world who actually watch vtuber streams than there are English viewers.
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>>104778436
Anon that's how hemispheres work
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>>104782172
>English speakers see clips translated and have fun
>Start showing up for streams here and there
>Cover sees an increase in English speaking people interested in vtubing
>Decides to make HoloEN
>Literally blows JP out of the water in almost every single case and competes with the highest of high viewerships
>All the JP start doing 'English' and 'Learning English' streams trying to ride th wave
>All of EN hits 1m subs, Gura and Mori hit 2m, all in record time
>Even CCV of the runt of Myth, Kiara, outdoes 3/4ths of JP talents
I dunno man. They lost their steam after there wasn't a third gen in 2022.
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>>104783599
None of this ever happened lol.
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>>104783599
To be clear the most popular holos in hololive are the JP members. Even when gura was around her viewership wasn't as big as miko. The reason why the JP members dropped all the EN pandering is because all the EN tourists left.
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>>104783860
No surprise /jp/ retards would want to live in their own made up reality. No wonder a big source of shitposting comes from you fags
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>>104784017
Someone's mad that EN was a complete and uttter flop lol. How does it feel to be the WNBA of vtubing?
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>>104783927
So Gura was pushing the same level as Miko during the first few years. You admit that a majority of the JP talents had dogshit viewership and tried to leech EN fans to get to their 1m sub goal, which most got to far later than all of Myth.
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>>104778158
She probably just wants to leverage how popular she was with English speakers. Fans loved it every time she interacted with EN.
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>>104784117
So you admit that EN was a flash in the pan and ultimately the EN market was utterly worthless seeing as how nobody stuck around. Thanks for playing.
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>>104784167
EN helped give JP a jumpstart which put them on the map and have them the NUMBERS they needed for faggot old Jap businessmen to give them a shot.
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>>104784117
idk why you're so mad and aggro. The narrative that you're trying to push is simply incorrect, in literally every metric you can look at JP members are more popular. Income, viewership, merch, etc. I'm not even a JP fag, you're just wrong. You're basically arguing the equivalent of saying that ID is more popular than EN.
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>>104784218
>source, my ass
JP already was on its idol path had its own yearly concerts and company wide events like the minecraft sportsfest before the ENferiors came aboard to leech on its success. Nothing about EN changed the way JP was run. Nice cope though.
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>>104778785
Another English speaking Japanese girl to add to my collection.
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>>104778785
I don't trust whores to cater to westerners
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>>104780331
kill yourself retard
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>>104783599
nice headcanon
take your meds
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>>104783599
More like Yagoo took all the money they made from Gura opening the west and invested it into JP completely ignoring EN.
Zero business infrastructure to this day in america.
Negligible amounts of advertising in america.
Taking years to produce any english songs.
Still can't bother to hire someone to figure out how rights for covers work outside of Japan.
Only invests in EN talents that move to japan and speak japanese.

Holo abandoned the west from the start; it was only being held up by Gura's star power and without her it is a house of bots ready to collapse.
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>>104784949
EN will always play second fiddle to the big guns in Japan because the EN market is worthless. You could close the whole EN branch tomorrow and the effects would be completely neglible.
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>>104782593
So it evens out then
By speaking English they're appealing to the other half of viewers
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>>104784949
The music thing is literally your problem for living in a third-world country, the talents have addressed this. The exploitative amount of money your banking class demand to perform their songs is not worth it. It would be throwing money in a burning pit for no reason.
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>>104785138
Hey buddy you got the wrong door, nijisanji is two blocks down
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>>104786023
Don't be mad at the truth ENcel.
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>>104786046
You can stop seething about EN existing anytime jpiggy
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>>104786085
You can stop being jealous of JP absolutely owning your bitch ass ENcel.
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>>104780331
EN fag fans like you should have been Gatekeeped from the start. It's retarded takes like this that show how fucking stupid you are. That's almost as stupid as saying anime couldn't have survived with an EN audience. Just fuck off you dumb nigger.
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>All these fagd saying /jp/ better
>All typed in english
EN won.
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>>104778158
it's almost like it's an international medium or something!
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>>104779146
Forget the language. That sounds like a guy using a voice-changer.
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>>104782593
There's more than a 100% chance you're pulling that data out your ass
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>>104778158
b to feed
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>>104787557
>>104788387
Uh oh jpiggy melty
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>>104778158
The nips crave the big white cock
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as you say it's made for bloating numbers but I don't think it is done with malice. some jp vtubers used to do that with spanish some years ago
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>>104778372
A-chan quit to become a vtuber? Why didn't hololive just let A-chan be a normal vtuber?
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>>104778158
>plug & play in 2025
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>>104779460
This, I was so bummed out how blunt her response was to the EOP marshmallow. I get that taking a year off can make one rusty with a language but even with that rust she probably could outdo 95% of JP streamers. She missed an opportunity to be something akin to Henya, maye she can reel that back in somewhat but we will see.
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>>104788387
Without us and without Coco's influence at that critical moment, Nijisanji would still be ahead of Hololive.
You're Welcome.
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>>104778158
nip money is worth basically nothing compared to USD
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>>104791747
>us
ROFL
Lemao even
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>>104791061
Where are your numbers ENcel? Oh that's right, they're at the bottom of the mariana trench. Why don't ENcels watch vtubers, ENcel?
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>>104778158
Always kill a traitor before an enemy, Jimbo
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>>104784949
>invested it into JP completely
and by JP he meant Holoearth
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/jp/spies learn their plcae
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>>104793068
JPwhores lust for western cock while jpiggies can only yell encel over and over, TOPKEK
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>Can’t hit 10k for a solo stream.
>Merch only sold 4k despite a 200k debut.
>Branch concert barely sold out, even though it was smaller than a JP solo concert.
Yagoo is so stupid for abandoning such a promising market.
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>>104778158
ringfit or asmr a-chan. also get a sexier otufit. i'll check out the english stream.
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>>104794404
But he didn't tho, despite five years of jpiggies seething
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>>104783332
the sun moves east to west not north to south
i swear to god the fucking retards on this board these days..
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>>104779121
They love FWMC though
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>>104788387
Anime would be dead if it were not for Americans and later Chinese who came to adore it. You don't understand how markets work, but that's okay. I can smell the braindead lefty in you.
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>>104784949
Don't forgot his insistence on ruining Holo with StarsEN. Can't believe Yagook got gifted a trillionaire business and still blew it.
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>>104782593
Based on what metrics? Numbers you pulled out of your ass?

Even if that was true the JP market is more than saturated with talent, and theres simply more room to grow in other markets like Spanish speaking and English speaking markets.
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>>104793068
EN have actual achievements that are not just meaningless numbers.
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>>104795378
The only competitive thing about EN is the numbers, and they’re losing.
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>>104795022
>>104791747
>>104791061
Dumb niggers like you are so funny. It's hilarious how deluded you are. Fuck off to you whore vtubers and stop pretending to know what's best for medias you invaded.
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>>104795616
No I don't think I will
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>>104795795
You and your little dick will you little virgin fag.
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>>104796098
Your jpsie seethe is amusing, give me more
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>>104795562
They're winning in every place that actually matters
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>>104796120
Go back to your tin hut. You saying that's amusing is as bad as saying your mother being a whore is amusing. Facts are hard to take when you're wrong.
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>>104796193
That a take so bad, I can't even laugh..
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>>104796267
Ah I love the smell of jpiggies seething in the morning
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>>104796371
Yeah cause you're seething instead
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>>104796457
No, I'm getting 2nd hand embarrassment. You should be ashamed
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>>104796446
Hahaha, nice try kun.
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>>104796649
Now say that without crying
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>>104778158
You only need the blue Doritos label to attract Western viewers. They are easy to farm.
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>>104796981
But she doesn't have that logo...
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>>104794404
Yagoo is a retard but the Homo fan is right that he's never abandoned EN, his whole thing is dreaming of somehow taking failures and turning them into successes after he got high on his own farts with JP. He prefers the failures.
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I'm hijacking this thread to use for discussing Rei's stream.
Rei cute
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>>104797570
This kind of discussion has become a trend.
Cover has actually put more resources into EN/ID (and Holostars) than their market share would justify, whether out of poor judgment or as a long-term investment depending on your interpretation.
People are seething because they believe they deserve better treatment than that.
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>>104778436
Anon just discovering that we live on a sphere
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>>104797681
She is adorable and seems to enjoy interacting with her English audience. I hope she does more English streams in the future.
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>>104778158
i can't put my finger on it, but i feel like i've seen that exact face on another jp/id/kr indie vtuber. it just feels really really familiar.
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>>104798095
No actually people, and I use that term very loosely, are seething because their pure Japanese company isn't a pure Japanese company anymore and that's driven five years of seethe
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>>104798095
>Cover has actually put more resources into EN/ID than their market share would justify
No they have not. EN had the biggest market share for a full year while all of their resources were being taken away
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Well that was alright, better than expected even even though it didn't have the old a-chan chill energy but that kind of thing can't be helped really, anyways subscribed again.
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>>104798095
Sure, that's why just slapping a couple pictures of Gura on a rando acquarium insta resurrected it and had people fighting to get in.
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>>104778158
Isn't she vtubing part time?
Also I don't think she had the expectation that she was going to be a powerhouse streamer.
She very familiar with how streaming works.
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>>104796873
I can't. I'm laughing at you. I know you're upset wog. But that's fine, you'll get over it.
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>>104798695
That literally did not happen.
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>>104798736
You haven't gotten over it in five years tho?
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>>104795123
Stars didn't ruin anything. They were going well until they ended up arguing with the two members that were drawing numbers and attention.
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>>104798778
Except it did.



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