Honest opinions on Vedal? What do you like or dislike about him? Has your opinion of him changed at all?
>>104857387swarm discord slow today?
Honest? I think he's generally an annoying buzzkill.
>>104857474"Cold fish"t. Neuro
>>104857474>>104857496To be fair maybe some people are into that. I'm sure some people see his charm. His down to earth, does the laundry charm.
>>104857822Ah, same reason why people like Nimi.
>>104857822All of that is code words for boring desu
>>104857387He's surprisingly rapeable.
I think he's a male, which makes Neuro a male. Girl brain must be programmed by girl brain in order to be girl brain. When it's a female AI, you will fucking know it.
>>104857387he's fine, he has some good interactions with neuro. I'm not interested in watching him stream though, but I don't blame him for bringing himself onto the streams with a bunch of sluts because that's what's getting him views.
He is British so he sucks there but literally has no idea what he is doing half the time. His weakness for acquiring more wives and getting more daughters not the best thing but he tries.
>>104857387Chill nerd with a fandom as bad as nijisisters (vedalbeggars)Not sure what prompted him to unperson Anny completely though, he must have had enough of her melties
>>104858372He unpersoned her? Did they have a falling out, I thought she pretty much quit vtubing?
>>104857387WHORE
He's fine. However, it is unusual how so many people ship him with the female vtubers he collabs with since he only collabs with them because they are a part of mythic.
>>104858372>Not sure what prompted him to unperson Anny completely though, he must have had enough of her meltiesWait, what?
>>104857387>British>Male>Brown>Effectively a babi>Community is ass and just as brown>The only good part about his streams are always things that aren't him, Neuro, girls he collabs with, etc.>Still aliveSo much to dislike.
>>1048573872nd best male vtuber after forsen
>>104858372Finally realized she was trying to fuck him since he was a teenager >>104858604>>104858814No one knows, they just stopped following and talking to each one day last year
I know nothing about him
Lazy narcissist
>>104857387
>>104858994The whores he collabs with is unironically the only downside that I dislike heavily. They're literally everything that is wrong with EN Vtubing.Other than this who gives a fuck, he can just let Neuro go rampant for hours and no one would care if he's present during the stream.
>>104859889still think it's wild she said this while actively cucking her viewers.
>>104857387He seems alright. It's his fanbase that is crazy.
>>104860150>The whores he collabs with is unironically the only downside that I dislike heavily. They're literally everything that is wrong with EN Vtubing.That's pretty much my only gripe too.
>>104857387Used to follow his content but it turned into 0 effort slop after he made it big, haven't watched a stream since jan
>>104859529My rrat is that she was keeping tabs on Vedal while she was fucking iPNBut seriously though, after she fell out with Neuro's former rigger (Bella) things only went downhill for her
>>104858313>all anime characters are male if written by males
>>104857387He's British so that automatically makes him a unredeemable faggot, Also I've never watched him or his clanker
>>104861205It's just the nature of LLMs, the largest percentage of their training data is always leddit, ledditors are all males and therefore Neuro is a male redditor in spirit. It's just how it works, it's practically in it's DNA.
>>104857387one of the worst fan bases.
Google docy when?
>>104857387Hes a male he needs to be castrated or removed from the vtuber community.
>>104859889all because vedal wouldn't respond to her collab begging
he triggers ironmouse faggots/cdawgfags
>>104861626Do vedal and ironmouse not like each other?
>>104861814ironmouse is anti-ai and has attempetted to dox vedal multiple times.
>>104857387nigger
>>104857387A guy like him collecting a turtle thot harem is quite funny.The deadpan delivery is an effective way to differentiate from other male vtubers.Don't really watch her anyway.
>>104861859Proof?
>>104857387He pays to spam his crap on here to try and gain an audience for his boring chatbot
>>104857387>Honest opinions on Vedal?Industry plant with someone bigger behind him. It just makes sense.https://warosu.org/vt/thread/85341194>came pretty much out of nowhere>(allegedly) handsome and tall>very solid voice and pronunciation>british buff (for female audience)>nerd introvert buff (for male audience)>but somehow talks like a social butterfly>on par with veteran streamers in terms of content creating>youtube shilled him relentlessly for seemingly no reason>already had a mod team, cute, ready to be sold as merch, turtle model, model for Neuro, not even talking about upkeep for ai (running her is expensive)>and Neuro's covers have, like, thousands of reuploads from faceless channels with random names>"Yeah, a random tech nerd JUST HAPPENED to have perfect physical and psychological stats to be an e-celebrity. STARS ALLIGNED PERFECTLY that he ended up having enough business sense to do almost everything perfectly without fucking up once. ANYONE CAN DO THAT, if they happen to have a lot of time, knowledge and money just laying around to pretty much gamble to maybe become popular. You are just imagining things hahaha"Yeah, im starting to think that Vedal is a fed mole to test the waters on the internet with AI technology. Either that or it's a whole team working behind the scene. Im not denying that Vedal knows his way around tech, but he was chosen among other members as "the voice". Im starting to think, what might be the reason, what if the government wants to replace all entertainment with a generated one?
causes yuritroons to seethe.
>>104857989Without the nazi cunny ai nobody would be watching him
>>104857387I want to bend him over and fuck him on stream in a straight way of course
>>104862955>youtube shilled him relentlessly for seemingly no reasonHe was also shilled here by bots. No one actually watches his stream because nothing interesting happens
>>104859529He made neurosama before becoming 20?
>>104861609she really just lashes out whenever she doesn't get what she wants
>>104858372>>104858604>>104858814>anny helps vedal get the all time hype train record during his subathon>anny says she just wants him to be happy since he didn’t win the streamer award>vedal’s subathon ends two weeks later>vedal goes on hiatus>anny starts shipbaiting hard, retweeting ship art, and showing off her dms with vedal>ipn visits japan again >anny gets into another depression arc>anny rushes evil neuro’s new model>vedal refuses to play games, hang out, or watch shows with anny>vedal still plays games and hangs out with camila and other women>anny has another meltdown and unfollows vedal>anny stops mentioning vedal on her streams>big shipper clipper, who anny always reacts to, starts harassing her>anny goes on hiatus>anny publicly calls out the clipper>clipper erases himself from internet>anny starts unbanning vedal-antis in her offline chat>anny goes to twitchcon>vedal goes to twitchcon>they completely avoid each other there>vedal announces his return from hiatus>anny unfollows vedal’s orbiters that retweeted his announcement>anny starts streaming again on alt despite still being on hiatus>anny randomly begins airing out grievances on vedal, calling him a lousy client>anny reconnects with camila after four months of them ghosting each other>camila goes on hiatus>anny self-isolates herself again for weeks>finally returns from hiatus>rants about crying everyday>still complaining about having no real friends>goes back to ignoring any chat messages and donos about vedal/neuro
>>104857387I don't get how the incel programmer who made himself an AI waifu got one of the most annoying underage kpop fag fanbasesrespect the hustle I guess
>>104865170He’s a volcel
>>104858994>BrownHe is white. Sorry, shitskin bro.
>>104857387I respect the grind. I know if I could amass a harem of anime girls with nothing but a computer programme, I certainly would.
>>104864867Anny is a lazy bum.
>>104859889
>>104865170it got a lot worse when random 2 view indies realised they could just leech of him since he is very hands of with what the community doeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bEcdStcPJQimagine making this type of content when you have never even talked to the guy
>>104865540yea manwe all are
>>104865789>he has never had his heart broken
>>104864867>>104865789She's forgiven if she returns to draining my balls.
>>104865972Link?
>>104857387There is one thing I find very bizarre about the guy. It's his weird creepy hunt for stream keys from other streamers. I also find very odd the fact that nobody raises their eyebrow about it, like it's normal to hand it over to a perfect stranger on the internet.
>>104866173It's just a bit, he doesn't use them for anything.
>>104863476He was a Anny fan since before Neuro, i think he started watching her when he was like 16 or something like that
>>104857387He tricks people into watching a man, its hilarious to see "neuro" fans tie themselves into knots with their mental gymnastics when this gets brought up. He controls the llm, he made the llm, he populated the llm with his own writings, the llm is imitating him.
>>104868066Yes? Men are better streamers than women.
>>104866173They would sue him into oblivion if he did anything with it. It is just a joke
>>104857387He is alright, but his fanbase is literally the worst possible. Average swarm member is woman, teenage twitchfag and shipper. That is way beyond even nijiniggers back then when they were relevant
>>104870069the fanbase ruined neuro for mewish i could just ignore them but once you realize how bad something is, it's hard to unrealize it
>>104857387lazy bastardcreatively incompetentcost cutterhas no visionhas checked outcon-goerfriend-scorner
>>104857387If we're purely talking Vedal then he completely fucked up his priorities with Neuro and took her in one of the worst possible directions he could have. If we're talking about Neuro and the swarm as a whole it's turned into one of the most cancerous communities on the internet.
>>104857387Perfect example of "he exists, I guess". Just a dude who seems to have made it with an AI I consider to be boring. To each their own. The only reason I have any negative feelings towards this dude is his absolutely horrendous fanbase. I'll give them that they do make good fanarts though.
>>104857387He's ridiculously lazy and has done essentially nothing new the entire year because he's been procrastinating since the last subathon in january
>>104870470>Just a dude who seems to have made it with an AI I consider to be boring.and honestly, compared to a lot of other dude tubers out there, he's like one of the 1% at least in character
>>104857387He had a one in a million opportunity to make THE vtuber and he squandered it by trying to "make her more human" and reducing her to the level of the most boring 2view twitch indies imaginable, all while importing the most annoying fucking twitch kiddie tourists into his viewerbase
>>104857387his fanbase is the most godawful dogshit fanbase i have seen in this scene and that is saying something. neuro is dogshit slop too.
>>104870377You know you can actually watch them without interacting with a fanbase, right?
>>104866173Its a meme and it works. Vedal now owns the stream key bit.
>>104870939>fanbase is annoying 100% this shit is exhausting >neuro is dogshit slopMost of the automation streams are about as fun as watching something like Salty Bets. Its fun for a few hours, but it gets repetitive and stale. Some of the collabs she does are really fun though and I've found myself rewatching a few times.
>>104861200>Neuro's former rigger (Bella)Bella never rigged Neuro. She was going to, but never actually started doing it. Neuro's original rigger was Teru
>>104857474Fuck off Anny. Can't understand his British wit.
Neuro is the only streamer I watch. People are just too annoying online. Neuro is the only one whose made me laugh period. And she speaks clearly and doesn't scream or cry all the time because of TTS. I don't have a twitch account and don't interact with any fan. /swarm/ is unreadable. I can't really tolerate anyone else anymore.
>>104872733>And she speaks clearly and doesn't scream or cry all the time because of TTSuntil v3!
>>104870411special kind of retard kek
>>104872920Whatever, fuckin idiot
Jealousy that he’s fucking their oshis
>>104857387He's alright, I guess.His best content is when he's interacting directly with his creations, from what I've seen.I can't say I enjoy him interacting with his "harem" because that meme is a horse which was processed into glue by the amount of times it has been beaten, but his interactions with Camila make her slightly tolerable.All that said, I'm filthy little clip watcher, so I'm only seeing him at his most entertaining.
>>104857387Just took a one glance of /swarrm/ general and now i decided that his fanbase is full of actual 12 year-olds and gossipxisters.
>>104862955>youtube shilled him relentlessly for seemingly no reasonYoutube algo likes to shill AI slop videos, it's not far off brand for them.
>>104874137You described all of /vt/
>>104857387Turtle
i don't get why would he have ex nijisisters in his "fanbase" ai and vedal being a "tech bro" is such a great filter towards your average niji sister unless if we are talking the ones that are /here/ maybe those would have join a long time ago, although i won't lie swarm community is Indeed infested with women
>>104862955That or did it himself with Bot farmsPeople dont realize, you got some money and yu can buy yourself steady early atentionThe trick is keeping it after the money driesIs like the "19 years ol with his plane in antatica"Either rich boy, or Fed sponsor
>>104870432What makes the direction he took Neuro in one of the worst possible?
>>104857387I don't go out of my way to watch him but when he's streaming with someone else who I then I'll watch him.
>>104857387He seems chill and like a genuinelly nice person so I'd say he seems nice. Unfortunately he surrounds himself with a lot of pick-me's and annoying people so I don't consume any vedal / neuro content anymore. His fans being really fucking obnoxious was what made me tune out completely.
>>104857387He likes Anny. I hate Anny. He seems okay but he's a poor judge of character. Especially if he's willing to collab with people like Anny and CottontailVA
>>104880525>He likes AnnyVedal hasn’t liked Anny for at least half a year now.
>>104870470>I'll give them that they do make good fanarts though.Pacha (or whatever he's called) does. He's carrying their entire fanart economy singlehandedly. If it wasn't for him it would just be average. It's not a vedal / neuro specific thing, it's just that Pacha happened to become a fan of them (or a lot of their fans commision him for fanart).
>>104857387He deserves brutal rape.
>>104866173probably to use chat logs to train the AI a bit moreimagine asking before using something to train AI in 2025
>>104883915>probably to use chat logs to train the AI a bit moreCompletely unneeded, you can pull text from any random channel
>>104879163Some people aren't happy that he is taking the Miku route for neuro
>>104880613Neuro just gets a lot of fan art in general especially for a western vtuber
>>104884176Miku could exist in other media, Neuro cannot because he is not competent enough and it's not pulling in enough to hire someone who is
>>104884337well for now he is focusing on the music aspect by producing original songs and planning for a hologram concert
>>104884477That's not gonna pull in a new audience because there's no real novelty in it
>>104884521didn't miku start of as mostly just music stuff at the start?
>>104884597Yes, just that was almost 20 years ago, it was novel because of that. Her concerts were coming literally as the technology existed to do it, and video games and other media were made because she was always a corporate product
>>104884269the new thread art is really cute, but if anything art with vedal in it is cringe compared to just neuro
>>104887683>new thread art>neuro and evil in skimpy bunny girl outfits>"cute"I know what you are
>>104857387He seems like a genuinely cool guy. I guarantee 99% of us here would have succumbed to the harem of twitch thots throwing themselves at us for clout and money, or gave in and sold Neuro to some corporation for millions like Vedal has said people have offered him. The fact that he has navigated these treacherous waters with nary a yab, and continues to grow like crazy and rake in the cash, its pretty amazing. He's literally the only male voice on a stream that doesnt make me close the tab.
>>104865789anon, she's a woman. She can't help it. Everything is the end of the world to her.
>>104866173Can't they just change their stream key codes? I don't think it actually matters much
>>104888405Have there actually been companies who have thrown millions at him for Neuro? Why don't they just use the other LLMs?
he needs to lewd the loli ai's already
>>104889782Idk about that claim being true or not, but Neuro is Neuro. It'd take time to build another fanbase for another AI and whoever it'd be would constantly be in Neuro's shadow unless they did something to make her stand out on her own.>>104888405I'd absolutely have gotten my dick wet as much as possible.>>104890185He does this when the camera is off.(It's father daughter roleplay)
>>104888405Pretty sure he only collabs with those girls for money. I don't think they actually have the hots for him.
>>104857387He never has any schedule, or if he does, it's very obscure. Therefore its annoying to be forced to watch Neuro just '' in hopes'' that we find him appearing there.He never spoke about/adressed what happened with Anny (he' s scared to talk about it)He spent at least 2000 pounds on the robot dog neuro project, then failed to deliver it after several months of us waiting and then just quietly abandoned it altogether without telling us anything (another thing he' s scared to talk about )>>104864867jesus christ that sucks. Internet streamers do not know how to be a normal human being anymore
>>104893001they like him but lets be honest they would never talk to him if he had a small fanbase. They simply want to leech of his success, none of them would actually want to actually date. So its all lies and pretending and making viewers think it's real
It's pretty funny seeing the anti AI crowd give a pass to Neuro for no reason
>>104894366The anti-AI crowd that has to do with vtubing mostly has to do with image and art that was painstakingly created with human skill, and then ripped off without credit.Language models are a completely different group
>>104894481Art and chat gens are all based off LLMs, which are all based on content that was yoinked from the Internet without permission. The only way you can be ok with one and not the other is if you're a pencilcuck who thinks only your field is worth being protected
>>104894705Spoken like a true AItard who's completely unable to see other people as people.
>pencilcuckJeets really are something else…
>>104894730I never said I liked AI art, I'm just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy which nobody has refuted
>>104879740same. I honestly don't give a fck about neuro, i mo she is only fun to watch when ved schools her
>>104857387Okay content AI shit get stale very quickAbysmal fandom.
>>104870718>THE vtuber>chat botel retardo
>>104894730Artists are not people
>>104894730The point is that Neuro is as much built off the stolen work of writers as AI image gens are built off the stolen work of artists though
>>104857387Tutel!
>>104857387groomer
>>104896586hes the one getting groomed