>The future though, is never certain. These concerts aren't just given, they are EARNED. And so, Tempura and Armada, please don't take this one for granted! I know you believe we deserve the world, we deserve this and more, but life is always more complex than just wishing on a star, and having dreams come true. Just hard work is never enough. Life is filled with KPIs, politics, logistical issues, financial issues, scheduling issues, the limits of our own capabilities, THE ALGORITHM, a lot of things we can't fully control.Seems like a make-or-break moment. Interesting mention of "politics" and "financial issues."
>>104894725Scheduling issues and logistical issues, too, and they're given about the same priority in the sentence. Two more weeks and they'll get dissolved, I'm sure.
Literally all homos who have talked about this concert have brought up "performance" and implied that Cover suits are watching and judging their numbers
>>104894725Good. They've been leeching off the girls for far too long. It's nigh time they start trying to earn they keep. Even ID proved their worth by selling out their (offline) concert recently
>>104894807
Know how everyone on the platform got slapped by a massive downturn in views because of an adblock update that stopped counting viewers temporarily and panicked? Odds that fax machine users didn't know the cause behind it and dabois are on the chopping block? More likely than you think.
>>104894824Anon, if that were the case, they would've fired ID and starsJP years ago
>>104894807You're not allowed to show hololive concerts with sound on either even if a bunch of retards on Twitch do so anyways.
>>104894814This. One step closer to Holostars being completely shut down.
I hope than no one watches it and they finally axe all the homos
>>104894824While Cover is insanely incompetent, they are aware of culling and bots simply because the talents actually report on itThough I could see that knowledge not making it all the way up to the upper suits and investors
>>104894824>Odds that fax machine users didn't know the cause behind it and dabois are on the chopping block?Nah, they've been under pressure for a long time before that. YAGOO / Cover just finally couldn't keep their charity project going on while ignoring *the girls*' complaints and homoEN didn't really help the situation with how they acted either
>most of them streaming on their PLs>the views have been abyssmal>their videos and 3D are atrociousthey know it's already over, this is a last push to see if they can do somethingit's kind of sad
>>104894725Just keep the top 3-5 most profitable homos from EN and JP and cut the rest. They don't bring anything to the table anyway. Or just nuke the entire sidebranch.
If Cover chose to abandon them after this concert and wait for all of them to go out by themself, ala Japanese corp. It's not going to fix the massive problem that is Jutard. faggot will never leave, no matter how, and you know why.The only way to fix this problem is the homo purge or just sell them to another corporation.
>>104895456How about sell the Indonesian branch to AKA Virtual too.
>>104895577ID is doing yeah......kinda fine, not as grim as the homo
>>104895456they'll never sell them to another corpo. they'd rather dissolve it themselves.
>>104894725They need to do this to underperforming girls too like ID, especially because they fascilitate the homos.
>>104895456Too much PR damage unless the branch becomes so dead the very idea of pretending they are alive becomes more controversial than the axing, which requires like NijiID levels of deadness. Won't happen for a long time.
>>104894725>calling out managementIf the blue flip gets suspended, can it be called stealth suspension or just desserts?
>>104894725>>104894807>>104894821They know their fans pay lip service more than anythingIt's funny to see them call it out in such a way
>>104894725>>104895927Stars are fucking done.
>>104894824>chopping block?0%They will be given less support though. Astel said the Stars were given a lot of things they didn't actually work for for years and years. The gravy train is over.
>>104894725The fact they actually have to repeatedly tell their fans they need to watch the stream shows the entire problem with this branch.
I know that /vt/ would love to see Holostars die as an entirety in one go but even if their demise wouldn't affect Hololive as it has nothing to do with them it'd still paint a blatant blemish on Cover's reputation no matter how you try to spin it. The only way to "kill" the branch without suffering the consequences of bad publicity is by doing it slowly through graduations every couple of months.
the problem with stars specifically is there is no market for them in the west, the fanbase is 90% hololive antis
>>104895927Yep, millions rant about "unicorns" and "da bois deserve better" on socials..... their ccv remains at 400 and only one has broken 250k subs. make it make sense. The reason Holo caters to the "unicorns"... they actually tune in.
>>104896002and even they dont want to watch them
>>104894824They will just be put on maintenance mode like starsjp who don't get new gens anymore. Guys who had don't have any ambition will stick around for the paycheck. We already see Regis making plans to move back to his rm possibly because he can see the outcome or constraints. There is no massive untapped audience for male vtubers in the west, everyone knows they exist and are at best indifferent.
>>104896086Regis is making plans? QRD?
>>104894725>Interesting mention of "politics" and "financial issues."Based Trump will finally kill Homostars with tarriffs. Inshallah.
>>104896136he has been recently streaming on his pl account afaik
>>104895456>and you know whyBecause he wants to fuck the girls.
>>104896136Had a sudden revival of a dormant rm after 3 years. Streaming there regularly while the corpo account rots since July.https://streamable.com/8ugzvs>it's nice being back>works been tough>feel like I haven't been able to talk to people that I want to talk to because of work>but maybe once works done now I can get back to living life a little bit more
death to all homos. they’re the reason Hololive lost its appeal in the west
>>104896232he misses kronii...
>>104896251based, I hope they kill all remaining interest in the westtotal EOP genocide
>>104896291You're thinking of Vesper dipshit. Regis was stuck to Kobo for whatever fucking reason.
>>104896202best his pagpag ass can get is Ollie. you need to be death desperate to tap that, yuck
>>104896291*KoboHe probably had a menhera breakdown and she distanced from him.
>>104894750hopefully they will have the dignity to end it at some point
>>104896003kek that one with 300K subs is gone after the concert
Fucking faggots they sure are pathetic, leeches and sexpests all of them.
>>104896393their joined event at fujocon didn't sell out
>>104895995it wouldn't be much more controversial than axing holo CN
>>104894725well... at least one of them are genuinely taking this serious
How do I actively take views away from them?
>>104896616not really, if any of them were serious they wouldn't be in holostars, they're here because they want to profit off the girls hard work without doing anything
>>104895995>it'd still paint a blatant blemish on Cover's reputation no matter how you try to spin itThere was a big thread on leddit awhile ago about how fags over there viewed the homosMost didn't care or didn't watch at all.Vesper and Magni's firing hurt their branch alone, not the rest of Hololive.
>>104896665>they want to profit off the girls hard work without doing anythingUhh... that's kinda BASED tho?
>>104896393Believe it or not, some high-tier kobokers are voicing their dislike toward the homo in every comment section of their collab.They absolutely BTFO greyniggs and everyone that called them by simply typing, "If you are not a member or do not have a higher membership badge than me, your opinion toward me is trash." So I just assume that she got the message.T. indog
>>104896776good for her, if only other girls were as smart
>>104896817The thing is, they don't attack Kobo. They are just saying things like "I can't stand this faggot voice" or "collab with mommy kiwawa are more entertaining," which is very smart.
>>104896776shes in the day 3 video wishing the homos good luck on their concert. its her and shiori for the notable ones
how would you fix holostars? and no you can't fire or kill them
>>104896393Day 3 message spoilers
>>104895995cn got cut and no one cares about it nowHomos are less relevant and less liked than cnThe blemish you see would actually be a sign to fans that cover cares and listens to fans, long term its a great sign, short term? No one would care outside of vtweeters
>>104897047homo management probably begged her to do it. They are desperate. Get anything they can get.
>>104897137this level of cope isn't healthy. she wrote blue homo a specialized message just for him
>>104897091>Let's make memories while we canShe makes it like they are going to be gone soon
>>104897182well she knows blue homo is on his way out for sure. theres probably a couple others
>>104897182yeah i would say it's pretty confirmed they're dead after the concertif the concert won't have a new set of boys teased, it's over
>>104894905You people have been saying this for 4 years and nothing happens
>>104897166I can't deny Kobo is a whore, yes, but anything is better than having them collab and interacting every eek like 2 years ago.
>>104895116Most of them always streamed on their PLs anon, this is normal
>>104897215Should have followed Zeta's lead and abandoned them altogether
>>104897228not blue faggot
>>104897201This makes no sense anon
>>104897270>"let's make memories while we can!" by kobo>"the future is never certain" by octavio>"i didn't think i'd come back to streaming this soon" by noaltareit's over queen, they are dead
>>104894725what the fuck did these faggots ever do to earn anything?They have never been anything but a drain
>>104894725hopefully they are gone after it
>>104896776Based, fuck greyniggs.
>>104897091The brother zoning must have killed him
>>104894725Why do I only see this guy hyping up this event while the rest seem to give zero fucks about it?
>>104897846Because you're blind, others have been posted in this very thread
>>104894725>I know you believe we deserve the world, we deserve this and more, but life is always more complex than just wishing on a star, and having dreams come true.Sounds directed at the beggars who keep insisting that Cover owes them things just for existing.
>>104894725>IdolshitIWILLNOTWATCHGIVE ME A BOY WHO PLAYS VIDEO GAMESNO ALTARENO RUZENO GOLDBULLETNO JURTARDNO OCTAVIONO BETTELNO HAKKAJUST VIDEO GAMES5-7 DAYS A WEEKTHAT IS ALL I NEED
>>104897860I mean out of every homo. Don't see other homos making walls of text like Fagtavio.
I honestly thought their views are similar to the NijiEN guys. Are they really that dire that they're graduating after the concert? How come Nijisanji can keep 2views around?
>>104898214Probably because nijisanji doesn't make them do office work
>>104898214i don't know if nijien is botting as people say as they are, but most of holostars won't reach a thousand while streaming, nijien guys do most of the time
>>104898214Holofags never got close to luxiem's levels of success, like not even close, most of them are strict 3views and a couple get into 4views (1k, even 2k territory) at most.
>>104898260>>104898251Damn, I only remember back when they first debuted and got a lot of views and super chats so I didn't know they're doing that bad these days.
>>104894725Cover's closure of this fucking leech of a branch can't come soon enough.Maybe I'd only feel bad for some of the JP guys, but some of them can make it as indies.
>>104897846Hakka and Octavio are the only members that aren't lazy as fuck. None of the other members give a fuck about anything stars related>>104898214>How come Nijisanji can keep 2views aroundWe already have 2views in holostars
>>104894824>a massive downturn in views because of an adblock update that stopped counting viewers temporarilyThere is more going on with the YouTube age verification system than ad blocking since there is evidence the AI system isn't counting viewers the same if they don't have a real world ID connected to their Google account. The cull is hurting the numbers for the Myth anniversary even today. The cull is also lowering the numbers for the Advent anniversary and the Justice 3D collab.>>104894824> Odds that fax machine users didn't know the cause behind it and dabois are on the chopping block?Yagoo will never cut Holostars regardless of how much unicorns complain but Cover does have trouble explaining the amount of money they spend on HoloEarth. There are investors looking at the numbers so management can't justify expensive concerts for Holostars if they lose money. Cover is really hyping up Everglow since it likely will determine whether they have a concert next year.
>>104898214Niji doesn't pay their members monthly salary so the upkeep cost of a VTuber is minimal for them>Are they really that dire that they're graduating after the concert?Don't think Cover would force them to graduate, but if the concert flops, chances are they will only get minimal supports from now on until they earn it
Unikeks have been demanding it for years but if there actually were an exodus of the homos from hololive that would be really fuckin bad. Historically the only vtuber companies to have talents leave en masse have died shortly after that. It's not something that happens to healthy companies.
>>104898330Yeah then we can get back to the girls who don't fucking stream because they're too busy with expo and fes.Yay.Then we can proceed to constantly beg for new girls because the rest don't stream because they are either lazy or they hate their fanbase for being fucking creeps.Yay.
>>104898214So far there's 1 likely graduating >>104896232He is the one with the most subs so far though most it due to Kobo collabs. Rather than shut down they will more likely get lower budget, less opportunities. Many years in neither branch has hit a stride. But yeah they are quite dire. Merch sales aren't good either. Nijien at least got some guys at 1 million subs and big popularity in china/SEA at a time.
>>104898417i can see a clear line between hololive and holostars - maybe even pushing them under a different company all together but that also isn't a good look
>>104897920>Just play video gameWhy would you watch and spend money on a male VTubers, then? There must be countless (flesh) male gaming streamers and some of them are decently skilled and nice. Why don't you watch those instead?
>>104898451
>>104898436Cutting off holostars branches won't change anything much since majority of Hololive fans don't watch homos to begin with
>>104898436Yeah look at those lazy whoresSurely all their viewers are pouring into homo streams when they are not on
>>104898526>majority of Hololive fans don't watch streams to begin withfify
>>104898417Sister you are beyond deluded, when the faggots leave Cover will lose at most 500 or so fans, and no I'm not making these numbers up is just an approximate average based on the homos pathetic ccv lmaoThe faggots were, are and will always be irrelevant.
>>104898470This is a situation where taking the indie pill actually works. I've been watching the same pngtuber almost every day since lock down and the guy has never even gotten close to burning out in any way. Completely different beast compared to corpo's.
>>104898660Bend over bitch boy
>>104898614I see. Damn, seeing that there are hundreds thousands (or several several tens thousands approaching a hundred if we limit it to just EN) fans who do watch streams, we can only imagine how many Holo fans there are if that was only a minority, eh?
>>104898614Crazy how they can fill out thousands of seats for concerts and sell merch without any real viewers
>>104898608>Toriyama shitlol>CaliThere are better metroidvanias>minecraftLOL>FOTMLOL>Hololive tcgLMAOO>House>KoboLMAOOOO>Waterpark simulatorLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>104898828Maybe check your reading comprehension before getting defensive.
>>104898900Thank god you have the boys to give you a wide variety of streams like nijien collab #10
>>104898436The EN3 wait proved this wrong. 2 gens of bois were there. People were desperate for streams. They still didnt tune in.
I hope they desolve, that way when I bitch anout something like HoloEarth, the fags here won't have some scapegoat to use when talking about some of the shittier parts of Holo.
>>104894725>the algorithm Lol viewers are the algorithm. If the content is bad or if you are Fujo baiting with no sex appeal they will not watch hence not getting into the algorithm. There has been no growth past debut they only decline from their peak slow and steadily and burn out only to retreat to their PL. Real idols are not obese or have to beg from their fans.
>>104899027How can one retard be this full of shit?
>>104898956>>104898608Why do they all have such bad taste?
>>104894725They should probably bot this just to be sure
>>104896393Didnt their last collab they meet up in person? She probably hated how ugly his gook ass looked.
>>104899035sounds like a nijinigger to me
>>104898920>claim the majority of Hololive fans don't watch streams>when they have some of the highest viewership in the industryWhat context is missing here sis? That deflection doesn't even make sense. Reality is the homos have low popularity and views.
>>104899201Men hate other men.
>>104895456>Make Starmin Production>Send them to that smaller production>Wait till the Production bankcrupt>Send them off with a proof that theyre not and will not be profitable
>>104899142NijiEN can die too for all I care. The less bullshit people have to fall back on, the better.
>>104899262Funny that sounds just like what a seething nijinigger would say
>>104899201Can you not comprehend the difference between "most fans don't watch streams" and "they have a low amount of fans"? This discussion might be too advanced for you.
Not just him, theres a reason clown mae a graduation stream for his brother(who is not a homoEN member)
I just think they shouldn't have existed to begin withThe entire reason this branch exists was to one up nijiEN, they were born for the numbers and they will die for the numbersAs a longtime EN fan you niggas have no idea how far they've come and how absolute dogshit things used to be, the stars suffering might give a bad look for outsiders but I really cannot tell you that things are "worse" after everything that's happened
>>104899355It wasn't even to top, but merely to stop Nijisanji from having a monopoly on male vtubers:With NijiEN done and dusted, there's no reason for them to exist anymore
>>104896232Just found a doppelganger of him but green
>>104896232>but maybe once works done now I can get back to living life a little bit moreYeah its over
It's weird that we are living in an ecosystem where a vtuber like>>104898700and >>104899486Are existing in the same ecosystem. What fuels someone who has been at it since lockdown to an audience of what i assume is basically nil aside from a few dedicated fans and someone who goes corporate and just falls over and dies?
>>104899386I mean with luxiem done for you'd think the homofags would get some crumbs, but sisters and the chinks pretty much ignored them altogether.
>>104899660>but sisters and the chinks pretty much ignored them altogetherThey all moved over to Kpop and the like. A lot of Luxiem fans were never fans of vtubers, they were just fans of Luxiem
>Altare puts out one tweet to promote the 3D’, off steaming on his alt >Bettel takes a two week vacation right before because it couldn’t possibly wait until after >Shinri not streaming >Flayon goes on a depression arc and stops streaming >Not a single group collab to promote the event If I were the few that are actually trying and care I would be livid at these fuckers for blowing their biggest opportunity.
>>104899308Extra funny when the bettel twin collabs were by far and away THE most popular streams the whole branch had ever seen, sometimes getting above 3K in their early days>300ccvFlayon, Goldbullet, Octavio, guerrillas, anybody in EU timeslot, anybody doing a solo stream that competes with multiboys collab>around/above 500ccvAxel, Hakka, Shinri>around/above 700ccvAltare (streaming normally), Ruze>above 900ccvAltare (continual return stream buff), Bettel (has always held consistent 1.3k-1.8k, above 2k with twin buff)>unclearJurard seems anywhere from a 700-1200 mark inconsistent but gets randomly botted to hell
>>104899660They did get some crumbs and briefly overtook NijiEN in averages but couldn't retain the "refugees" at all. Whether that's their fault for being talentless, or just Nijiniggers rejecting anything that isn't 24/7 fujobait, I don't know.
>>104899714Now i can see why anon is begging for video games.I knew it was bad, but not that bad.
>>104898313because amazingly all the "pwn the unicorns" crowd doesnt actually like watching vtubers
>>104895658They will never axe a branch unless they become actually hostile to the company, and no the t-rex faggot collabing with a couple hololive girls isn't "hostile". I'm talking HoloCN stuff. They will just let them exist with minimal support like the JP homos. The upkeep cost for Cover is basically non-existent after their 3D debut if they don't get anymore concerts. They already share a single manager vs having 3 earlier on.
>>104894725the end is finally near
>>104899763Basically every NijiEN has been botted for over a year now. The only StarEN that gets botted often in jurard.
I know it's pointless to use logic here, but Cover is not looking at performance to determine if they'll shut down the holostars brand, that your mental illness speaking.What they're looking for is a reason to consider ever making any more concerts or special holostars events. Cover corp treats holostars much like HoloID, as a branch that they but minimal investment in for some more niche audiences compared to their main branches, and they mostly don't pay it much attention. Many of the holostar and holoID talents are acutely aware of this attitude and how they are ignored by the corporation, and that is why this event is so important to try and prove they do deserve more. But if it fails they aren't getting cut off. All that will happen is that they'll continue to be a lesser priority eating scraps that fall from the Hololive dinner table.
>>104898900>>104899113we like minecraft in this house
>>104900580>Cover corp treats holostars much like HoloID, as a branch that they but minimal investment in for some more niche audiences compared to their main branches, and they mostly don't pay it much attention. Many of the holostar and holoID talents are acutely aware of this attitude and how they are ignored by the corporationboth groups are entirely to blame for it. anyone can look at the activities and attitudes of the members and see why their content falls flat time and again.
>>104896160He probably means office politics you retard.
>>104900837>Look at the activities Basically saying you have evidence and even if you put evidence I'm willing to bet it's from a schizo point of view which already makes you concede even harder.
>>104901162>t.giga retard
Cant wait for holostars en to get dissolved after the concert bombsI dont mean they close down holostars i mean they grab each one of them and toss them into a vat of acid
>>104896776>>104896817Didn't all of ID chase unicorns away? Also Kobo? Really nigga, you are some korean guy made for yumes, nugga find yourself a cute korean girl. Like Kubo is cute but not wife material.
>>104901458Unicucks always want to complain
>>104899748>Jurard seems anywhere from a 700-1200 mark inconsistent but gets randomly botted to hellDinofag showed up in my recommended one day w/ 14k ccv, and I almost choked on my drink laughing. They're not even trying to be subtle.
>>104901583The only way to grow as a male is to be loud and I pin that solely on the audience for rewarding retardation and punishing normalcy.
>>104901438Holy based
>>104900837I never disputed that. Well, no, I don't personally believe that is correct, but the point is that is a completely unrelated argument, because you could accuse many of the main branch girls of the same, but they still benefit from the overall default support level that comes from being part of the main branch.
>>104901147Yeah. Oval Office politics.
>>104901458Reina, Kaela and Anya have never shown hate for fans like the othersthey all have a key difference compared to the others
>>104894725I don't think they're ever gonna disolve the branch and I doubt this concert will even be a complete flop. But the panic is really funny to watch and I wouldn't particularly mind if they were all booted.
>>104902034>they all have a key difference compared to the othersThey don't really do collabs in the first place? They don't do GFE shit? They just play games and do shit they want to? Reine is violently homosexual, Kaela is probably asexual and Anya is the hands down master of opsec? Help me out here.
>>104900390https://streamable.com/s0r0wi
>>104895995Oh no! >cover fires homos>faggots on social media pretend to care>cover debuts a new gen in any region >stars are forgotten, reputation restored.It’s just that simple. Stars fans don’t participate with the actual content stars even produce. Stars “fans” are seasonal twitter warriors. They’re as useless as their opinions. DESOLVE STARS.
>>104902710>Actual contentWhat content would that be?
>>104902351She’s actually yagoo’s daughter. Why do you think she mainly collabs with Jps
We support the constant attack on the homostars
>>104902782It's not the JP collabs that make it suspicious. But she's definitely ethnically Japanese. Her story about learning Japanese via light novels is almost certainly a lie, given her fluency. Ollie also once let it slip a little when mentioning she was "not sure if [she was] allowed to talk about" Anya's ethnicity. (her being yagoo's daughter/relative is schizo, however - no evidence to support it)
>>104902756Their streams, songs, and concerts LMAO. their “fans” don’t watch any of them, and tweeting does nothing for them. The backlash would be all faggots tweeting for a minute until literally anything happens with the girls.
>>104894725>I know you believe we deserve the world, we deserve this and more, but life is always more complex than just wishing on a star, and having dreams come true.LOL
>>104902351they werent sold to a 58 year old farmer for 3 goats
>>104899059the homos lured in new fans, not fans of the girls.That's literally why their numbers are so low.
>>104894725>Blaming everything other than themselvesNaruhodo
>>104896202tbf, don't we all?
>>104903472Most of them are pretty ugly
>>104896291>he misses kronii...Kek, blue homo was the pussy who cut ties with Kronii after their first group collab due to the backlash, even tho Kronii herself wanted to continue interacting with him.
>>104903381Let's be honest the girls have done nothing to deserve their fans as of late
>>104897306Learn how to read, retard-kun. He meant about another Homo gen teased at the end, that would be idiotic, even if by some miracle the concert got 1M CCV.
>>104903503I guess there is nothing wrong with being a raging homosexual like you, anon, but come on.
>>104902034>ReineHomocollaber, not as flagrant as others, but she even admitted to talking a lot with Axel these days due to Umamusume.>KaelaSafest bet, 99.99% Homofree interactions, the only homo interaction she had was in her first months, when Hakka got into her chat and she banned him almost instantly, kek>Anya Dunno about her since I don't watch her at all... Did she homocollab at some point or something?
>>104903886And why should we care?
>>104903552Altare has always been famously scared of anything remotely uncomfortable. He isn't like Axel who rolls with the punches because thats basically what you have to do in life.
>>104903886QRD on Kaela? That sounds really funny and I've love to know more.
>>104903886>>104904361its a liethe hakka thing was some awkward penguin joke he did and kaela just pretended not to careand kaela did have more homo interactions before that with magni, they would banter on twitter and sometimes indirectly onstream, feels like management was trying to force them to be something like zetaxel or kobalt but it ended up in nothing
>>104904361He came into her chat talking about how birds should stick together and calling her a penguin. Which she specifically asked people not to do when she never asks anything of anyone. I don't think she banned him but she did flat out ignore him.
>>104903886>Did she homocollab at some point or something?If she did it was a long fucking time ago. She doesn't do that many collabs anyways.
>>104904623>>104904691Well, still funny just not nearly as. Why has this pisspoor attempt at forcing ships happened three times now though? The only duo I thought were somewhat funny was Kobo and the blue one and even then that was only like friendly cousins.
>>104904691I forgot how she's bitchy like flare and some retro vtubers. Glad I don't watch her.
>>104904872>Why has this pisspoor attempt at forcing ships happened three times now though?Indonesians.
>>104894725"fans" are busy tweeting retarded takes, there is no time for concerts
>>104902235The risk isn't that the branch is axed outright, but that they stop getting the extra support that they've gotten since debut thanks to omega and would basically only get the Cover baseline.
>>104904958Aren't they muslims though? I figured the inherit faggotry that comes from shipping would be haram.
>>104904967Why would I watch a concert when I can watch a regular stream with actual interaction?At that point Id rather watch sportsball or a movie or anime.
>>104905037Which is why they homobeg and push straight ships while japs/westerners prefer yuri. The Philippines is less homophobic but has an ingrained culture of "love pairings" in its pop culture (actors and actresses posing as couples and often appearing with each other in movies/shows) which is why they're the other biggest homobeggars.
>>104894821Holostar en made a rabid feminist.
>>104905121Yuritrannies are subhuman and always will be subhuman.They ruined games and anime.
>>104905208We don't narrate our posts here.>>104905231Turn your monitor on.
>>104905161Games were ruined by microtransactions, day 1 paid dlc, and season passes
>Racism outside of /b/ForWhatPurpose?
>>104905121I guess I just don't understand it.
>>104905254>i know you are but what am iGo prep your bull, Rider
>>104894725So what you're telling me is all the people who shill them better put up or shut up then and actually watch. I don't watch these guys but good luck to them
>>104905277Games were ruined by poorfags who know about products coming out years in advance, but didn't save money for them. They get no sympathy from me.
>>104903289>songs>concertsNot content>streamsThey stream?
>>104896624Make accounts and roleplay as someone insane but not quite ban able. Like make a home in their chats and be obnoxious, make the chat experience less fun for everyone. Never stop. Don’t get banned being too retarded. Eventually some among the paltry viewers they have will leave because of you being an annoying faggot. Unfortunately this would mean you are watching the stars and so isn’t worth your time, effort, or even your breath.
>>104894821>implying he called the girls money printing machinesis this the average comprehension of /#/ posters?
>>104903886Kaela asked for birthday msgs/presents from all of Holopro and streamed a few videos of the homos. She also defended them with a we are all in the same corpo speech but she got the msgs quite fast that her fans don't want anything of that.As others pointed out you made the ban up
>>104903886Anya used to be really sharp against her fans, she used to average 300 ccv believe it or not, when she softened she inclined and is a regular 4 view, she DID homocollab tho, it was in the early days of tempus, she joined some weird sandbox game with them and axel showed her a dick he was working on made out of stone.Anya also talked a lot about Zen, not zentranny but an ID vtuber called zen who, ironically, was a monkey, she also would go on tangents who he's so nice to her, literally the same vibe when towa was acting like a high schooler in love for that one SF dude.
>>104903886Reine's last homo collab stream was the fucking Worms tournament
>>104894725>earned these homoshitters haven't earned anything management sisters just give them everything. they take from the actual talents and give to this fags whether it be studio time, funds, or trying to trick Hololive fans into watching these shitters.
>>104906055>Zen, not zentrannyHe always seemed pretty cool to me. I haven't seen or heard anything about him in forever though. Is he even still around?
I always think its funny how this board is full of men who are afraid of other men. Do you faggots get scared every time you look in the mirror or take a piss?I would mention taking a shower, but i doubt you guys do that.
>>104898470I simply find flesh to be disgusting.
>>104906388>Scared of Homostarslollmao even
>>104906055Anya really did have a stick up her ass up until 1 or 2 years ago. I wonder if that also affected her interactions with the other girls since it was super bizarre to see how they would always talk over her or flat out ignore her during group collabs.
>>104894725>>104894750>>104894807I hope the investors fire them all. fuck stars
>>104894842I don't think they pay the ID girls anything. Like I think Ollie or Kobo or one of the other ones, maybe moona, mentioned how the girls in ID get paid some ridiculously low amount which is still a ton for where they live because the average jakarta salary is like $7,000 USD per year. It might have been moona. moona might have said she makes more on her slave plantation she owns than on hololive
>>104909392>starsLeast obvious falseflagger.
>>104895577>>104895599they don't pay the ID girls anything anyway. that's why they always seethe about going to japan
>>104909392don’t think they’ll get fired, just get put in limbo and only show up for a handful of cons appearance like jp stars
>>104909537>handful of cons appearance like jp starsQRD on the current state of Stars JP?
>>104909492Don't worry, sister, we know that in Nijisanji the talents don't have default a monthly salary, but in Hololive they do, regardless of the additional revenue from SC and merch. And yes, sadly, it also apply to the homos.
>>104909516ok fuck the faggots/homos>>104909575I'm a guy, you queer. I remember seeing some moona and ollie clips I think where they said they were making a lot for IDs but basically nothing compared to japan or the US since like $14,000 USD would be a fuck ton for an ID
>>104909670men don't spend all day on 4chan seething about some dudes they don't watch
>>104898660TRVKLEAR APOCALYPSE
>>104905926The retards who make up the most notorious containment thread /here/ are unable to comprehend sarcasm? You don't say.
>>104909757men don't like the faggots, you dickless tranny
>>104910341Yet you're afraid because they might steal your imaginary girlfriend. Guess what, they're already taken, not by vtubers, but by some normie guy who has his shit together.
I like some of them. Hakka, Bettel, Octavio, Ruze are all cool and aren't sexpests. Bettel and Ruze in particular are really funny, would be a waste to terminate them.
>>104910438Ruze can't tell the difference between fiction and reality.Good riddance i say.
>>104910449i only remember ruze for saying people shouldn’t lewd 2d characters without their consent or something. did he had other retarded takes?
>>104910530Likely many more if you consider that he is a tabletop sloper too.
>>104910426that's a lot of projection. you are obviously a hololive ID enjoyer
We have broke ass retards trying to pass themselves off as unicorns actively hampering both the guys and the girls' content because they think they might be flirting or worse. They continue to have no clue what happens behind the scenes but you'd think an IDOL focused company like Hololive would prohibit these relationships being openly paraded, right? What we DO know is that management is overly cautious and there are quite a few projects that will never see the light of day as a result. We have an environment with Hololive that could fundamentally change the guy-girl interaction meta in vtubing, leaning heavily on that aforementioned idol focus and the success of more platonic/familial friendships like KobAlt instead of the softcore porn that some relationships "develop" into.
Lets say that they do end up teasing a new gen at the end of their concert (and I mean IF).What would the chimpout status be?
>>104912470minimal because not a lot of people care in the end
>>104896002I don't believe that, I watch several of the Stars and their chats are always pretty active. The audience is smaller for male vtubers in general, but its there.
>>104912690active chat doesn’t translate to fans buying their merch unfortunately
>>104895456The actual reason is he loves his job.
>>104898470There's also already plenty of indie male vtubers that just play games.
>>104901583Unless that happened twice, I was there for that stream. Jurard did say that he was sure they were most likely bots so its not like it was his doing.
>>104910530Other than joining a niji event literally spearheaded by a basically confirmed sexpest?
>>104912887Name three(3)
>>104899714I’m glad things are going poorly for them.
>>104910341Why do you care if fags hang out with girls?
>>104902431Unfathomably based. I never bothered to watch this incident before. I can see why this still makes the faggot fans seethe on social media.
>>104906063And she was rightfully dropped for it. ID gets no second chances. Ever.
>>104902431This is such unbelievable asshole behavior. Fuckin ruthlessly competitive. I don't even watch the boys, but I'd at least clap for them if they were in front of me doing their best. God damn.
>>104911898I’d rather Hololive burn to the ground before they decide to explore more kobofaggot pairing collabs. Get the fuck out of the hobby faggot.
>>104894725This flip guy is obsessed and spamming about metrics, this is like his tenth post about it, and the weird belch-talking guy with no shirt talked about it too. what the fuck are they talking about behind the scenes that have them so shook?
>>104912470I would be annoyed and surprised when I inevitably read about it here because any more time or money spent trying to shill homos is a waste of time and money. The only people asking for more stars gens don’t watch them, they don’t watch hololive either, so cover would have to be as retarded as these people to do so.
>>104912764>getting paid for being an obnoxious, isufferable hate marketing faggot Yeah, I would love my job too, since I am a pagpag eater from the slum of Manila
>>104914322We already knew you were PagAnon
>>104913975I don't want the girls getting aids by accidently touching hands with the faggots
>>104897182They're not progressing. At least the ID branch still has Kobo, which is marketable to JP entertainment industry.But no one in Holostars is as marketable.
>>104902431El silencio de las Fuwamoco...
>>104914193Blown the fuck out homolover
>>104896202>>104911252
>>104914193>I don't even watch the boysYou retards never do.>but I'd at least clap for them if they were in front of me doing their best.Are they doing their best? Also you're in this thread rather than anything else, retard.
>>104896232>314.7k twitter views translates into an average of 192 viewershomo sisters really are lazy as fuck
>>104894725Wow, I completely forgot Holostars is a thing. Has any femboy showed up yet? If not then I don't care.
>>104915667I don't understand why you're linking me to something that isn't surprising in the least.
>>104918023>Has any femboy showed up yet?There was that pink haired faggot in JP. Kaoru I think? He only lasted like a few months before getting fired. I don't even remember what for.
>>104913635Heavenlyfather, Zoranthewizard, Goodjared. Really, you just just go on the vtuber category on twitch, sort from lowest to highest viewed, and you'd probably find hundreds within minutes.
>>104914694Probably still seething that they couldn't leech from the main Hololive EN Twitter anymore.
>>104894725>>104894807>>104894821>Anons: Nooooo!! You can't talk about numberinos you monkeys! Who cares about views, the streamers just want to have fun!>The streamers themselves are always the biggest numberfagsAnd it's not just the homos. or 3view indies having a melty over the cull. Kiara and FWMC are huge numberfags as well.
>>104894725I hope it gets abysmal numbers so they all know that they no longer have any hope of success, and the smart thing to do would be to cut their losses and graduate
>>104902431tick tock homos, bitch bau bau
if they are not in japan, then why most of them are barely streaming
>>104922516they’re not optimistic about their future and preparing for life after stars
>>104922516This is the part where you realize that anon begging for consistent streams may have a point.
>>104914193They seem to understand what being an idol means
>>104922516>altare: graduating onto his PL>axel: busy recording songs before moving to japan>bettel: taking another vacation with the gallons of sister cash they pour into him>flayon: moving to japan>hakka: streaming regularly before moving to japan>shinri: moving to japan>jurard: an anxious wreck>goldbullet: raising his dog>octavio: travelling to japan>ruze: niji collabs and PL birthday
>>104894725Calling out the slient fans sure, but this long ass paragraph feels invalidating to the few fans who have stuck with them since the beginning. "Our branch are toiling away at growing our brand..." as if the og tempura and armada have done nothing to contribute to that, like everything we've done is never acknowleged and now telling us to do more for you when you couldn't even schedule a full branch collab to promote your own concert. Fuck you Octavio.
>>104921366>FWMC are huge numberfags>always play indie horrorslop>never play buff gameswhy are they like this?
>>104894725No more studio time, no more 3D events, just let them wither off into nothingness
I am really curious about what's happening in cover because the idea of eg Hakka unironically thinking that quitting holostars to go back to his pl is insane to me.How delusional do you have to be to think that, as a homo, cover is holding you back and you can be better on your own?
>>104925089FWMC actually aren't numberfags, they tried to be ones on the road to 1M but they can't pull it off. They appear desperate and begging, unlike professional businesswomen like Pekora.
>>104895599>ID instant sold out their concert>Homo can't sell out their limited merchID are fine
>>104926622>begging for numbers>aren't numberfagsspotted the delusional Ruffian
>>104926720Tariffs don't affect ticket sales but ok
>>104918295Got involved in an illegal gambling ring for Beyblade matches while impregnating MikoActually he just got a better deal running a Japanese TTRPG channel(where he's a high 4-view sometimes getting into 5-view territory) so he broke contract in some way we don't know to get out early
>>104898900>Toriyama shitRespect Toriyama, I'm going to rape your anus
it's actually surprising to see this thread at all. with the sheer amount of estrogen on this board i thought this place was pro stars?
>>104926950Holy cope
>>104928129you really showed everyone big bro
>>104928377it was not supposed to be a gotcha, i'm actually serious. this place has got to be like 70% women who migrated here from twitter, right?
>>104899714I love that for them
>>104906388You assume this comes from fear. It does not. It comes from sheer disgust and contempt.
>>104914193Get fucked. This moment is what catapulted FWMC into their rightfully legendary status. Bau bau, bitch.
>>104928129>>104928480There is a difference between generals and catalog bait. generals have mostly sane people, bait threads like these are made up of falseflag phase fans attacking other falseflag phase fans while the phase janny turns a blind eye.they 'e not women, but they do migrate from twitter and had a lot of estrogen.
>>104894725What have they done to deserve views?
>>104906388>afraidrumao.
>>104909566Just find what Astel had to say about it.
>>104910426Unpopular, unlikeable retards stealing women way above their league isn't a realistic fear, anon. The reality is you retards are annoying faggots and nobody likes you. Go gather the other 50 retards like you that watch their streams and neck.
>>104911898>The most successful vtubing company in the world should change its formula to desperately try and boost male vtubers nobody wants to watch.You sound like a retard.
>>104894725Stars has done so much damage to Hololive's branding especially in terms of Tempus causing retarded infighting between co-workers and fans that I genuinely don't feel an ounce of sympathy for their "3 year grind". It could've been 1-2 years if you simply stayed in your lane and ostracized people like Jurard regularly.
>>104922516I remember when tempiss came out everyone said the homos would be monster streamers compared to girls. Rumao
>>104929757Who knows? noone watches them.
>>104930259It’s covers/omegas fault really. People would have been a whole hell of a lot nicer if en3 debuted before Tempoop. That was a colossal mistake. At least to me. I went from apathy to anti when that happened.
>>104926595>How delusional do you have to be to think that, as a homo, cover is holding you back and you can be better on your own?
>>104931954indies usually have better discipline than corpos
>>104894725>using people's burnout over politics and death to push your shitty concertDeplorable
>>104932751The strongest streamer i know doesn't burn out
Male vtubers are early, current streaming tech (gaming/chat/singing and very limited 3d) is just not there.Girls got it easy, they can follow the "cute girl slice of life" anime formula and become LARGER THAN LIFE characters just by chatting and gaming, hololive are "anime girls BUT REAL", they are LARGER THAN LIFE.Streamers like kuzuha ARE NOT good vtubers, they are still mostly just normal streamers with a anime avatar, they can only exist in japan and be big on top of the niji network.As a much hate people like vox get, THEY NAILED what a current real male vtuber is like, as being a gay sexy vampire for the fujos is the real only LARGER THAN LIFE roleplay a male can do today.Ideally, male vtubers are supposed to do the action hero, but you can't do "naruto vtuber" if your content is chatting and gaming.Hell, you can't even do anime comedians like gintama or cromartie, since even those are VERY environment/action oriented.Well, maybe one day we will have full cheap VR body tracking and good AI generated worlds/adventure to explore, then someone will do a "GOKU BUT REAL" and become the legendary super male vtuber.
>>104900390I wonder if any catalog shitposter actually watches fuwamocco
>>104905986What are you even trying to imply here anon? Kaela still collabs with males
>>104922083>>104929181Messages like this really makes me doubt if these are genuine fans or just catalog shitposters and false flaggers that gura used to have
>>104930259>I only get my information from catalog bait threads
>>104894725Guilt-trippers EN
>>104933460The funny thing is alot of anime fans are starting to realize that most anime is rom com/slice of life slop and they're doing everything they can to make sure more people don't realize it.40 years of fucking anime, a supposedly RICH medium and nearly all of it is just two genres?Insane
>>104933907That she had more interactions with the homos and not only the Hakka and Twitter ones
>>104934021Why would genuine fans spend time shitposting here instead of stroking it to their oshi
>>104935019Dude, the hell are you talking about, every season got almost 100 different anime running.Slice of life are not that many, even if you extend the label to triller comedy stuff like spy x family.
>>104922516transparent low confidence going into this, with one throwing out every graduation sign possibletruly though, if this doesnt hit covers indicators where does the branch even go
>>104935904>where does the branch even gothey won’t axe the branch like so many people hope cover will do, but they’ll get bottom of the barrel support and generic merch for every event like jp stars
>>104935513it takes time to reload anon.
On end I feel bad for them.On the other I wonder why any male vtuber would willingly work for Hololive, the stars being treated like crap is hardly anything new.
>>104937466why not? join, don’t be a dipshit, and leave with their audience when they’re tired of it.
They had one chance at being successful but they fucked it up. Collabocoust, and Acceleration ruined them. I’m sure people like Calliope and Omega were involved in those decisions as well. Just all around fumbling of the bag
>>104937534the problem is you guys think every little thing makes someone a dipshit. We have people seething about both the boys and girls. Which means that there is no point in going corpo because there is no fucking winning, you're just going to get fucked over by the most inoffensive and innocent thing.
>>104933460You can definitely do the action hero stuff but it's usually in tournaments of which there are plenty being hosted in the JP vtuber sphere. For example, stuff like taking down two teams by yourself and winning when there are only three teams left in apex or by winning a 1v5 in a valorant match.
>>104935513it's not like they stream all the time
>>104939457their tummy horts
