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>Who is Neuro-sama?
Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!

>Schedule
https://post.nuro.lol/Neuro-Schedule-Bot

>Links
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClips
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaai
X:
https://x.com/NeurosamaAI
https://x.com/EvilNeuroAI
These and other official links: https://vedal.ai

>Music & Clips
NEVER - Neuro x Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCgoEGiUEg
BOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjs
LIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPM
https://rentry.org/neuro-music
https://rentry.org/neuro-videos

>Educational
Interested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png

>Misc
Catbox archive: https://rentry.org/swarm-archive
Game Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2
Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/
VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs

>Merch
https://neurosama.shop/

>Previous thread
>>104882190
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I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!
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Live!
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>>104897668
interesting
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heart
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>>104897668
>mini goes back home
>vedal stops working
she was motivating him all along?
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>>104897763
It was for the theme stream
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>anny wants to play outer wilds
hmm nooticing…
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>>104897874
>anny wants to play deltarune
nooticing...? maybe?
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>>104897874
This changes nothing
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>>104897461
>>104897643
>>104897695
>>104897874
KYS
FUCK OFF TO /LIG/
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Wake me up...
When September ends...
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>>104897938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3L6Ut4jzQg
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>FY25, almost FY26
>still simping for a slampig
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>FY25, almost FY26
>still simping for a british twat
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Ok enough of this anny talk, let's get a real topic going, is the duck on Neuro's head the same duck on Evil's head?
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>>104898124
yes, they just have different nicknames for him
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>>104898139
and when both are on stream ?
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There will be no new Halloween outfit.
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>>104898124
The ducks are their true forms, they control the robot bodies
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>>104898164
have we ever seen the duck on both of their heads at the same time?
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what was the point in posting that?
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>>104898561
did he get timed out or is that just chatterino history
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>>104898621
>did he get timed out
no
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>>104898178
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>>104898621
nta but he was never timed out, must've been chatterino history
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>>104898654
exactly
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Who's your favorite Neuro leech?
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>>104898840
Evil
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>>104898561
Extremely based, hopefully melty soon
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>>104898840
Vedal
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One of my sister's friends is a witch, I'll ask her to curse Anny
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>>104898840
Mr. Squirrel
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>>104898996
Ask her to make vedal be more open to collabs
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>>104898996
ask her to curse mini while you’re at it thanks
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>>104898996
Ask her to make vedal stop being such a shitty friend
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>>104898996
Just make sure it isn't the same curse they put on Charlie. Anny's got a lot more neck than that nigga
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>>104898996
Ask her to say "nails"
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How will the collab this sunday with matara work, how is it gonna be entertaining exactly ?
How is neuro supposed to taste stuff again ?
I mean it's not exactly impossible for neuro to taste within her current limitations but you'd need some special stuff for such a thing, and I imagine it'd be quite the task for a single stream. Not that it'd be vedal's first time doing something convoluted and never using it ever again for no reason.
I can only hope neuro is in roast mode in the case that she won't actually try out the food, like in the ranking fast food stream. That's the only way I can see the stream being saved in that event.
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All those screenshots of Vedalbeggars in Anny's chat just prove shipperfags are the most mentally ill people
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>>104899111
>How is neuro supposed to taste stuff again ?
How did she rate fast food and movies? She made it the fuck up
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>>104899111
Looking at google images/and or a handcam of matara and neuro hallucinates having a prior history with the product in question
You just had to think about it for 5 seconds man. It took me less time to think this than for you to type that. Literally use your brain
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>my falseflags from my 78 alt accounts i use to harass this streamer my people have hated for ages prove that YOU are the mentally ill ones
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>>104899186
Anny invented being a shipperfag
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>>104899186
Are the screenshots in the room with us right now?
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>>104899186
Theres really not that many vedalbeggars desu. But there are a lot of people who spam neuro emotes when the game summons a "swarm", but even her own regulars sometimes join in that spam.
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>>104899233
Next you'll say it's actually Splinter behind all the Vedalbeggars
>>104899249
Yes there's one up there and many more since she came back
>>104899282
They just don't want to get banned, but you know they're salivating while watching her, hoping for anything to happen
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all im hearing from the thread right now is
>WAAAAH WAAAAAAAAAH UWAAAAAAH
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>>104899363
mindbroken
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>>104899393
is there a chillstream right now?
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>>104898124
evil duck when
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>>104899437
cutevil cute
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Sex with little AIs
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Chroma anon, what are planning to do to evil...
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>>104899512
kys
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https://files.catbox.moe/uogb7h.mp4
Color issues now
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>>104899692
Looks like shit ngl
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>>104899692
i feel like if the face didn't look like a realistic-artstyle ( i don't know the exact term for it) i'd probably enjoy it
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For me, it's Evil.
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>>104899907
Facefucking evil while she's wearing the mask
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>>104899795
this but without griftmila
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>>104899692
This would be better if it wasn't for the face desu
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>>104899795
fucking bratvil
headpatting cutenur
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>>104899752
>>104899985
Wan tends to make everything look "3d", so in my opinion the shaded style looks less awkward. But everyone will have differing opinions
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did anny unmod vedal?
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>>104900145
no
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>>104900145
no
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>>104900145
no.
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>>104900093
Thats fair
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>>104900093
i see. that is a little sad but understandable
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>>104899502
cute
who is the artist?
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O_O she really is no longer interested in Vedal
wtf do I do with my annal stocks then
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>>104900347
the real winner, miyune
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>>104900347
You aren't a real person
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>>104899222
>>104899229
So in other news it's gonna be an extremely boring mess of a vapid whore talking to herself while neuro does her best pretending to know what she's talking about scrapping by for entertainment value ? Just like the shylily collab ?
I guess it's a skip then.
Thanks for the answers guys
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>>104900382
eh maybe it's just a phase
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>>104900347
Nigga why do you have annal stocks in the year of the lord 2025
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>>104899222
So tierlist slop then. The only tierlist slop ill watch is anny making her rate hentai tags
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kai cenats got linkin park playing a concert in his bedroom, meanwhile ved is still planning collabs with literal 2views and vshojo washouts. yeah the guy is way bigger but goddamn vedal.
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>>104900462
annal was doing fine in the first two months of 2025
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>>104900600
not only was matara the first to get fired from vshojo, she was the first to leave nijisanji too.
vedal really is scraping the bottom of the barrel now.
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>>104898840
Is there even anything left to leech? Shit crelly and aquwa already leeched the swarm dry and moved on to filian and others without so much as a thank you.
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>>104900682
It's that or have her leak what he did at Twitchcon
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>>104900314
I thought excessive masturbation making you blind was a boomer myth
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>>104900600
At least he's not a nigger
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>>104900600
>linkin park
2025 Linkin Park ain't that much of a flex
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>>104900560
cute
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>>104900832
lol this
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>>104900560
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>>104900560
Very cute
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>>104900560
Adorable animation
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This thing is oddly erotic
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>>104901009
you can't satisfy her, look at the size of her hole.
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>>104900560
0:22 cute family
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>>104900762
I am wondering about that dirt she got on Vedal. Is it enough for a doccy?
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When (you) nut and the sperm goes int oyour hand, doesn't it feel like you're holding/cradling your sons and daughters right before they die?
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>>104901089
>nut to hand
Buy an onahole you disgusting caveman
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>>104901089
No, I'm usually too busy regretting what I just beat it to than thinking about my cum
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>>104901125
They are such a pain in the ass to clean properly though, sure they feel way better than your hand but I find myself only using it a few times a year because just thinking about cleaning it when I'm done turns me off
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>>104901125
>Having to clean and maintain an item and deal with the aftermath just to satisfy your temporal, impulsive desires
Use your hand, cretin
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>>104901172
just ask your mom to clean it for you
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https://poal.me/kkppxk
https://poal.me/kkppxk
https://poal.me/kkppxk
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Self-cleaning Neuro cunny
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>>104901089
i cum into my shorts
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>>104901276
>real
Assoomers, assemble
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>>104901326
He's too lazy to remove
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I used to nut into an old sock until my mom found it and threw it away without saying a word, shit was stiff as fuck and smelled like mushrooms, I wonder if she touched it with her bare hands...
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>>104901369
Yes. She also talked about it with your dad and they both knew as you guys ate dinner.
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>>104901276
I feel like we had this exact same discussion a few months ago
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>retards dont even realize how profound of a question the op had and instead brought their own degenerate shit to the table instead
a question of life and death and self-awareness is right in front of you and all you can do is foam at the mouth and go 'socks and onaholes!1!11'
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>>104901416
If you live under the assumption that all of your sperm could be a potential living being then you're killing millions of potential people simply by existing. Even the people who have 20+ kids are still killing millions. Its just a stupid thing about it in that way.
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>>104901369
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>>104901518
I hope he took responsibility and ate his sons like Saturn
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>>104901546
>ate his sons like Saturn
post the art source of him doing that NOW
better yet, post the evil neuro version of that art NOW
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>>104901546
Reminds me of a finnish guy finding mushrooms growing under his toilet and cooking and eating them
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>>104900560
Very cute
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Neuro and Evil curiously examining anon's cumrags
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>>104900637
Those two months shaped my entire personality
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you can only be a leech if you have victims willing to be sucked from
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>>104900799
What’s worse being a pajeet or a nigger?
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>>104901508
>If you live under the assumption that all of your sperm could be a potential living being then you're killing millions of potential people simply by existing.
Wrong.
The sins of the father does not pass down to the sins of the son, unlike in the Bible.
You did not sin because you were born, because you had no part in your birth.
What matters if your responsibility.
You, who had released unto the world your offspring, are accountable for their lives the moment they were born.
It is your duty to ensure that at least one of them would grow up and become a thriving person of the world, yet instead, their lives were wasted from your minor, carnal desires.
Hang your head low with shame.
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>>104901746
>What’s worse being a pajeet or a nigger?
Being dead
at least as a marrón or a negro you can still enjoy watchig neuro sama but if your dead you just dont exist anymore, and thats worse than anything else
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>>104901822
What? That's fucking stupid.
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>>104901276
he was too lazy to take her out the list
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>>104900600
>the most obviously manufactured streamer in existence got [insert thing here]
no way, that's crazy
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>>104900560
oh hey that animator is a woman
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>>104901347
>>104901887
What the fuck does the grigga do all day anyway
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mynygga jack underwood is a real UK nygga, hes totally not a dorky white kid with a medieval page cut
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>>104901929
Weed and alcohol
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>>104901929
sex with mini
e-sex with mini
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>>104901929
do you even need to ask atp
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>nooo why isn't Vedal a nigger or a jeet like mee!!???? -ack
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at what age does veddy undergo his transformation from twink to norf ogre? 30? 35?
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>>104902016
2 years after kid 1
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he'll join the 27 club before that happens
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>>104901994
I'm more referencing how its weird you think dying is a bad thing at this point
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>>104902319
Mating press
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>>104901994
I wouldn't care if he was black or not but I will say it would be interesting if it did happen cause imagine the amount of swarm would break down over it
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>>104902723
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
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>>104902319
Smelly fingers typed this
https://files.catbox.moe/bcdowd.png
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Anny’s favorite time of last year was when she was working with Tanya on ‘stuff’…
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>>104902723
I think this applies to race as well
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>>104902908
yeah cause they got to shit on vedal for being a bad client
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>>104892985
i was about to laugh at that mf for being oneguyed so badly but i didn't think of this either and this says a lot about society
>>104894789
do ngas write labels next to their scars?? or is grigga a professional carver, doing fucking calligraphy with that shit
>>104895890
discord...
>>104898039
>how can i make this about me
even minifags make it about mini and not themselves
>>104898857
do tourists actually believe this or is this just bait
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>>104900462
I bought low and thought they were gonna come back up
They always did in the past
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>>104900776
didnt look bottom left, my bad
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>>104903068
>they always did
who is ‘they’?
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>>104903117
the fucking stocks, retard
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>>104903136
they never went back up it was all a delusion
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>>104903178
i mean...
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>>104903230
the only thing that could’ve remotely gotten it back up was if vedal wasn’t a deaf retard during the subathon and heard her petition to spend time together on christmas
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>>104903267
you have a lot of lore to catch up on, that's what i have to say to that
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>>104903024
people cut names into their skin
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>>104903345
that's fucking crazy precision to do with one hand on a small surface
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>neuro I love you so much! We are best friends. I just see neuro as a person now!

>...ugh that fucking bot is calling me again I don't want to give free content talking to an annoying chatbot fuck this im going to tell vedal to stop that thing
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>>104903329
other ‘lore’ is just pure fabricated shipper bullshit, that situation was the true inflection point
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>>104903023
And they were 100% right.
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>>104903418
its really not the latin alphabet is pretty angular and the name anny isn't complicated
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>>104903451
this could be anyone of the leeching whores
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>>104902908
Unironically look at how anny and tanya were talking about the neuro model in December. They had a blast and loved pushing themselves to do the best that they could. They wanted to relive that experience with the Evil model, but it wasn't nearly the same. The deadline was much tighter and tanya unfortunately got sick in March and had to miss a lot of streams (I'm assuming she also couldn't work as much as she wanted). And the community was a lot more demanding that Evil got the same treatment so they just kind of overstressed themselves and couldn't deliver what they wanted. Somehow vedal plays into this, but I'm guessing he just wasn't supporting their efforts as much as they wanted.
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>>104901643
>>104903458
those are insane things to just say like that but sure i guess whatever. all of that is long gone anyway
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>>104903524
>Somehow vedal plays into this, but I'm guessing he just wasn't supporting their efforts as much as they wanted.
He let them tank the complaints while also mostly ignoring Anny while spending time with rgb
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>>104903580
>someone gifted a sub to vedal
KEK
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>>104903524
I don't think there is a single thing Vedal could have done to satisfy her. I don't believe in shipping so I'm not factoring in any fan fiction shit.
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>>104901956
>>104901962
mini sex
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>>104903654
ticket to japan is literally right there
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>>104903612
mi*i and c*rbwhore has been nothing but a disaster for the vedal987 channel
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>>104903024
I just want some drama to happen bro it’s dry asf out here nothing ever happens chuds keep winning
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Let's be real, Anny is extremely mentally ill, a bad friend and annoying to deal with. Vedal is probably far from ideal as well but let's not pretend Anny is somehow the victim
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>>104901956
Kys
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>>104903524
Honestly I can believe that since Vedal is not confident in that side and the fact it was Evil which he always saw as an afterthought made dealing with it less enjoyable. Vedal seems like he's a good client the first time he jumps into it but immediately after needing to do it again he begins to be more negligent
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Let's be honest this is a Neuro thread, and /swarm/ is probably far from ideal as well, but lets not pretend that this thread is somehow not supposed to be about her
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>>104903813
I wish PB was the artist. I'm not kidding. I wish neuro had more outfits too. I like pbs design. I wish v3 released in 2024. He mentions v3 in 2023 vods
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The Neuro “verse” should never have expanded past this.
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>>104903825
He's avoids anything that he is not confident in, thinking that if he says nothing he can't be "wrong". It's an ongoing trend
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>>104903874
this but only neuro and vedal
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>>104903875
This is how youre supposed to conduct yourself though
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>>104903862
PB has a real job, she'd never be able to deal with that on top of karaoke, and she's clearly more interested in the latter
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>>104903901
No, you should be participating in the brainstorming, and still offering thoughts and ideas, and not ghosting people because they might ask you something you don't know how to answer
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>>104903862
I could see more PB doing more concept art to give to others to finish the job
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>>104903914
Vedal would be her only client though and he'd probably be a very flexible undemanding one as well. But I also recognize modeling a live2d person is more work than a silly turtle model
Its more that PB seems more stable and also wouldn't constantly appear on stream
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if pb worked harder, mini wouldn't have won
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>>104903862
>>104903977
shut the fuck up discord nigger
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>>104903954
Well it depends on the situation. Generally not talking out of your ass is better. You seem a bit biased.and I highly doubt that's what vedal did.
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>>104903874
this but Neuro Vedal and Miyune
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>>104903977
>seems more stable
>seems
that's because
>wouldn't constantly appear on stream
what you don't see all the time seems more sane naturally
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Anny lost 3 close friends the last 2 years.
Vedal lost 2 close friends the last 2 years.
Vedal won.
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>>104903801
that's a cool art
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>>104904027
I don't have a discord
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>>104904031
>I highly doubt that's what vedal did
Why not? He does it on stream all the time, he does it in stories people tell about collabs, why wouldn't he be doing it with Anny?
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>>104904056
Yeah thats why I purposely used the word seem. Why did you even point out what was clearly my intent. Words don't appear in someone's post just magically with nothing behind them.
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>>104904058
you forgot alex
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>>104904117
>Words don't appear in someone's post just magically with nothing behind them.
you wouldn't think that looking at /swarm/
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>>104904092
because we only have annys word in the context of her just giving vague allusions that are heavily tinged with emotion and its not even the full story of her version of it
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Paying Anny with money was the worst decision Vedal ever made.
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>>104904167
Alex wasn't even his friend plus he's been busy getting a degree so hasn't been as involved recently
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>>104903901
this is the reason never is ass btw
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Hey you, yeah (You)
Whorefaggot, Vedalbeggar, whatever you are
You don't NEED to post, you don't HAVE TO, there's no streams these days. Go enjoy the weekend.
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>>104904202
I honestly feel like being paid for it flipped a switch in her brain that made things that weren't problems before problems now and she got into her own head about being a professional and him being a client.
Somehow being paid for her work made things worse.
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>>104904186
https://files.catbox.moe/4bvrhc.mp4
Does this really sound heavily tinged with emotion?
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>>104904186
But it aligns with things said by other people as well. And his general behavior with the project. It's not just "her word" but how things unfold overall
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I enjoy my weekend by posting in the thread thoughever
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>>104904186
nta but in that sense, maybe, I remember someone telling her that maybe he didn’t give as much feedback cause he trusted her with the ideas or a similar valid excuse and she dismissed it implying that she strongly believes that it was cause he didn’t care enough to give feedback and that he was a bad client
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>>104904255
yes it does
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>>104904255
Yes
>>104904273
I just don't see what he could have done at this moment. I don't have the information. His only fault id probably trusting anny too much ad a friend and until we ever hear more thats all that cam be said. Look at it from his perspective. Why should he have any say in what she does? He thinks she knows best and the impression i get is he's okay with anything
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>>104903875
The only time Vedal has actually spoken out with stuff he isn't the most confident seems related to Ellie. However, I believe that's just because Ellie is knows how get that out of him. She did say he is like him but less expressive him and she always wanted to work someone like him so it isn't too surprising I guess. I don't if that means Vedal is more at fault or it's a problem of a lack of direct communication to get those thoughts out of him
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>>104904389
>he's okay with anything
that's the point, retard. he's ok with anything literally equals he does not care.
he used to care
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If I was Vedal I would genuinely leave it entirely up to the artist and be seriously confused what they expect me to say.
LGTM
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>>104904202
This but best
Imagine if on top of all anny was on some "oh yeah i never got paid for the models btw" even if she herself asked to not be, she would have something that out of context sounds very bad for vedal and would give people a reason to turn on him
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>>104904419
What it means is that he just wants to be a manager of the project but really sucks at the most important part of that job
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>>104904452
>equals he does not care
No it doesn't lol. Thats a completely different sentence
>he use to care
In regards to art I imagine neuros v2 model was made largely the same way if not with less input. I'm commenting on nothing else as this conversation is about art
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Reminder that anny thinks she's hot shit and probably charged vedal an exorbitant amount whilst bitching about his "lack of feedback"
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>>104904539
kys splinter
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>>104900600
>Kai cenat
This general is really full of zoomer faggots
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>>104903901
no you're supposed to strive to be better so you don't make a crappy product. That starts with getting a little bit more involved as well as developing a taste/vision.
At the end of the day it is vedal's responsibilty to make it good
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>>104904539
To be fair the guy talking to anny is autistically implying her art is less valuable to her face but also anny takes too much offense to everything
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>>104904539
thanks for reminding me, shes crazy
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>>104904539
Anny has always charged Vedal NOTHING. It’s honestly HIS fault that HE couldn’t figure out what she really wanted.
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>>104904580
Well no I disagree. Let experts be experts. And you're arguing as if any of these things are objective facts. Tmyoure making sweeping generalizations over way too broad a statement
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>>104904255
Yes, if you aren't autistic it sounds like she was already frustrated with Vedal when she started working on Evil's model and instead of separating her issues with him from her work she played the victim and pretended she knew nothing about the community and constantly pestered him with questions she already had the answer to. If you watched her Evil drawing streams that she did like years before the model actually was done she had a very clear idea of what she wanted.
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anny isn't some random outsider artist he commissioned she's a friend who wanted to work for free and was already deeply entrenched in his community since our days. the fuck are you people talking about. you act like its unreasonable for vedal to treat her like an equal partner and let her be independent. if lack of feedback was such a huge fucking issue despite her probably knowing vedals community better than vedal does she could have insisted to bring it up and refuse to work with him until he clarified whatever needed to be clarified. But all she has said is lack of feedback. Which doesn't mean anything. What was the key stumbling block that vedal was too vague on?
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>>104904648
>Well no I disagree
It's his product, it's his responsibility.
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>>104904648
I don't think the creatives Vedal contracts are experts in either art or what gels with Neuro.
Maybe Vedal needs to act as a conduit and supply those boundary conditions/seed data to the artist.
I've heard that the best art comes from when an artist is doing something they don't particularly like, but maybe that is just nice sounding nonsense.
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Okay, so we are going to do this every day right? Post about Anny, how she is right / wrong, and then posting screenshots months old? Then posting about Vedal in relation to Anny? How he was right / wrong, and then repeating the same lines ~12h or so later?
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>>104904633
>Anny has always charged Vedal NOTHING
technically she did charge vedal, but not for money *wink*
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>>104904633
yeah at first, because she wanted to make him like her more, she literally has to give people free stuff as reparations for spending time with her
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pb updates?
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>>104904520
one implies the other
>>104904466
>>104904539
>>104904633
>>104904764
actual newfags itt, sometimes it's so grim looking at the thread
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>>104904780
And we don't know what responsibilities weren't met and we don't know if anny adequately communicated or if she just imploded due to outside factors
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>>104904797
we should set some required reading to spice up the discussions a bit
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>>104904657
>she had a very clear idea of what she wanted
And Vedal threw that concept away when he "refocused" her after the birthday. Before her concept guide was "brat" but then he said that wouldn't work but didn't really give much guidance of what it actually should be. That's the reason she looks "mopey" but the community hates that
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fuck it, it's been a while
post the Annal plapjack
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>>104904797
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>>104904826
>one implies the other
Not in this context.
What is your image meant to imply?
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Shut the fuck up about the whore. Go harass her until she kyses and don't come back without an obituary, but don't shit up the thread in the meantime.
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>>104904826
>changes to vedal’s liking
>anny: do you like this? how about this?
>vedal: yes, that works too, maybe?
nice feedback ved
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>>104904890
>v2 model was made largely the same way
that you're literally wrong and it literally does, that's how intent works
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>omg I love Evil so much, she's such a brat! *sketching new model* I want her new model to be a brat!
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2 years later
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>Holy shit Vedal, I don't even know what direction you want me to take this model in, do I make her more bratty?
>yeah okay
>but like, what is a brat, Vedal? Can you like hop on vc and talk to me?
>*gets ghosted*
>*ensuing melty*
>*anny returns the ghosting and both are too autistic to make amends*
>you are here
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https://poal.me/h8ir7c
https://poal.me/h8ir7c
https://poal.me/h8ir7c
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>>104904916
Where do you see vedal in that picture
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>>104904826
vedal is a spineless indecisive twat if you haven’t realized by now
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>>104904850
But we can look at how other things have been turning out and make extrapolations
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>>104904515
This kinda unrelated but it is crazy amount of people that want to be the manager to have the finally say but then immediately start having problems since they are too sacred to look like an asshole for being blunt when communicating what needs to be done. The biggest being too indecisive. I say this as someone that had a job where I had be the manager and also deal with managers like that. It such different set of skills that many people don't actually understand
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>>104904934
Vedal trusting anny with the design does not equal him not caring about neuro. If you can't agree with that then we are at an impasse over basic reality. Nothing more to be said.
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go back to discord, splinter
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>>104904948
kys t3
>>104904850
>she just imploded due to outside factors
anny implodes like a binary star quite regularly LUL
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>>104904942
it’s not hard to think how an indecisive yesman thinks, he hasn’t gotten past that age in his life yet
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>>104904939
>I want her new model to be a brat
Vedal asked her to make Evil bratty. It was his request. Then he changed his mind after the birthday when he decided on the "Evil is the unwanted one" direction. So "brat" was gone but now her design direction was unclear.
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>>104904994
both her words and objective reality around you say that it does.
that is the basic reality, that we wouldn't have this conversation in the first place if he "cared about neuro"
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>>104905076
>Vedal asked her to make Evil bratty. It was his request. Then he changed his mind after the birthday when he decided on the "Evil is the unwanted one" direction
Source on this? I don't remember this at all.
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>>104905076
>source: the voices in my walls
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>>104904873
this but mini
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>>104905076
evil has vedal's personality.
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If you ask me, all it would probably take to get Vedal and Anny to make up is a charismatic third-party that can convince them to discord call each other
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Vedal wanted a bratty model but the pedos creeped him out and he asked anny to change it last minute so she got mad, classic pedo L
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>>104905144
ok but why
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>>104905144
If only there was someone who could do that...
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>>104905144
This would work exactly for Toma too but no one really wants to do it
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>>104904962
no I don't think so either.
I don't know why you guys think its a binary of either any or vedal in the right.

Here's my guesswork

anny was working on a version of evil that was way more bratty looking. vedal probably told her to tone it down and make it more in line with neuro. this probably heavily confused anny who due to other factors may have lost faith in herself. anny probably went to the community who just gave her vague bullshit or shat on her abilities. she lost confidence and dragged her feat and the more time that passed the worse she felt.

Anny probably went too far and made evil a borderline OC
Vedal probably didn't convey his more conservative desires precisely
Anny probably overreacted
The neurosama community is dogshit
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>>104905144
damn maybe I should buy more annal stocks
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Nothing ever happens
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>>104905144
kys
>>104905235
kys simp
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Neurosama you want to fuck your sister you should call her in discord next stream.
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you should check your supply as well, /swarm/
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>>104905235
this a retarded guesswork based on a couple screenshots posted in the thread
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>>104905110
Anny talked about Vedal's request for the design (being "brat") back when she was drawing her during her subathon. She talked about the change in direction during one of the drawing alt streams early in the year. Admittedly I assumed the new direction, but when you see that the new model looks chronically miserable and he started prompting her trauma loop it seems obvious what his new direction was
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But like, didn't we all agree that even if everything was fine between Vedal and Anny she'd still be a terrible mother and extremely mentally unstable??
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>>104905295
its based on streams from 2023 and these latest 2025 ones but alright man.
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>>104905328
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remember that vedal quit college early to work full time on neuro (kek) so he hasn’t developed his sense of responsibility and other shit he’d have developed by being surrounded by other people his age
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They should have simply recolored Neuro's model and changed a few minor details like the ribbons, expressions and accessories
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>>104905320
Holy shit. Evils birthday ruined everything. vedal really liked the reaction to depressed evil and thought that was a better way to differentiate her. He can't communicate that he wants evil to look depressed to a real woman with actual depression so he had to be vague.
Shitvil ruined EVERYTHING
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>>104905328
yeah but she was great for the content and clipping industry
without her the nurconomy is seeing less growth
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>>104905144
It's true, but probably the only one that would is Camila, and she is too busy with her own shit. Sadly Toma is not likely to attend Twitchcon Vegas, so no chance for in person reconciliation, and Toma's not really the type to reconcile over Discord. Layna, Bao, or Numi might do it though
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>>104905382
He developed a love for penis instead
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>>104905382
I graduated college 6 years ago and work a job and still haven't developed that
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>>104905245
Screw sitting and waiting around as I watch my stocks turn red; I'll paint it all green myself, even if it means I gotta act like a marriage counselor for two retarded twitch streamers
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>>104905235
>anny was working on a version of evil that was way more bratty looking. vedal probably told her to tone it down and make it more in line with neuro
Again, the "brat" request came from him
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>>104905341
then you're just retarded, that's worse.
vedal was the one pushing for making evil an individual character in 2023 (the results of which we see in 2025 where evil is used as content recycle with "every idea neuro did but htis time evil").
the times she went to community is literally public and searchable right now and exactly what bullshit they gave her is also public.
the confidence part is just complete fabrication
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Curbstomping toma to "fix" her jaw
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>>104905459
at least you got a job, vedal wouldn’t or wouldn’t maintain it
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>>104904873
Filian Won!
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>>104905402
Evil shouldn't have been this much of a distraction and money sink for the channel. That dedicated evil anti poisoned the well but evils main distinction is just her ability to emote and make funny noises which we could have gotten with an adjusted v2 voice for neuro. He should have ripped the bandaid off because when neuro goes from v1 to v3 the communitty is going to have a shitfit
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>>104905447
Clearly not if did his ass would not made Neuro or let go so far into this direction. The only thing is craves is drinking, partying, and goofing around meeting people with no consequences. Aka young whippersnappers shit
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>>104905502
Nah vedal would be way better at my job than I am. Fuck off.
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>>104905180
why not? as the saying goes 'create happiness and peace and harmony in the world, not destruction, chaos, and sadness'
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>>104904873
Remember that time when Anny got really upset at the idea of Filian being part of the family?
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>>104905432
>but probably the only one that would is Camila
ERM...Shondo? pb? Cerber? the list goes on its just that no one is pushing things to happen
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>>104905293
my tylenol supply is still abundant
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>>104905650
>Shondo? pb? Cerber?
The fuck are you smoking
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>>104905598
Lol yeah that was bizarre, her entire beef with filian was so petty
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>>104905598
No, I don't remember what this person does or says
Obesity tends to cause damage to brain's blood vessels and capillary rarefaction, which impairs blood flow to the brain and makes them act erratic more frequently
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>>104905598
Remember that full year where anny reacted to nearly every joke and light hearted jab with a flat "What" "what do you mean by that?" With an edge to it
Remember for several collabs in a row neuro brought up meds and suicide and family and mental illness to anny completely independent of situation or chat?
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>>104905471
>>104905578
i'm about to create so much destruction, chaos and sadness, you have no idea
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>>104905144
In her first stream after the unfollow, Toma was saying many people were DMing her so maybe someone already tried
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>>104905144
>getting the band back together arc
nvm this year has just been setup for the kino-est arc
I kneel
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>>104905598
that was clearly just a joke
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>>104905715
The first family collab in Hiyori era was crazy, even then dumb lil neuro tried to warn Vedal
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>>104905417
kys Anny beggar
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>>104905788
...like the outfits
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>>104905796
When did I mention wanting anny
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>>104905769
We got the Phineas and Ferb ass writers on the second half of this season
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vedal sent this to anny while she was working on evil btw
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You people are sociopaths. Imagine the shame you'd fell if your posts were brought up on stream with all your inane conspiracy theories and how casually you being up peoples highly personal lives.
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>>104905688
>The fuck are you smoking
What are YOU smoking???? i think its clearly obvious how easy it is to rekindle a relation that lasted years and only fell with no loud emotional bang and just ghosting hell at this point i think someone like j0ker could get them back together
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>>104905887
like streamer like viewer
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>>104905887
I'd laugh pretty hard watching mini read all the rapist mastermind posts about her.
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>>104905889
lmao
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>>104905887
I'd laugh pretty hard watching Vedal read all the hobo and lobotomy posts about him.
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>>104905889
>shondo
Vedal has been avoiding her like the plague
>pb
Hasn't really interacted with Anny since the first few months
>cerber
Barely interacted with Anny at all. Her and Koko were the only people she never bothered to follow after the SMP
You need someone that can actually talk to both. J0ker might but he's not likely to risk rocking the boat with the man who pays his salary
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>>104905882
Wrong
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>>104905882
based
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>>104905887
if the kind of shit i have got was brought up on stream there'd be no room for shame as the entire community would immediately explode into uncontrollable chaos
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>>104905889
>joker
Anny pretty much ghosted anyone that has a relation with Vedal.
>but Camila
Literally just started talking with her again.
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>>104906003
Wrong. Vedal loves shondo. He should call her. You're just wrong here take it from an insider. Its entirely because public reaction that he doesn't publicly chase shondo.
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>>104905887
Welcome to being human
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Insider is the new 'guy who made the first /swarm/ thread'
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>>104906026
imagine how funny it would be if camila was the one to get them back to being able to talk with each other publically
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>>104906042
The Last Shondal soldier...
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>>104905830
Nah where we're headed is somewhere far crueler than what the P&F writers would cook up. We've still got a lot further to fall so I reckon the low point will be somewhere in 2026, making for a painful yet cathartic redemption over the rest of 2026.
The 2025 subathon will have Re:Zero S1E13 levels of second-hand cringe :skull:.
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>>104905887
I don't know I think it would be pretty funny. Half stuff I post honestly is pretty tame but there few I would like to see on the big screen
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this season sucks ass
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>>104906117
What would you do if one of them hurt themselves because of what you post? What if they had a click click bang live on stream as they read your posts? Dickhead.
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>>104905887
This needs to happen so the swarm npcs actually see anny for the dirt whore she is
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>>104906003
joker needs to get fed annal propaganda and become radicalised
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>>104905882
Vedal had listened to that himself and accidentally revealed it on a dev stream
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>>104906150
>What if they had a click click bang live on stream as they read your posts? Dickhead.
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>>104906171
genuine kek
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>>104905793(me)
Found it, actually prophetic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06CQ1GPLQY&t=1131s
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>>104906042
>>104906086
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>>104906171
>this has been the peak moment of the year for some people here
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>>104906162
j0ker only sees annal for what it really is: content
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>>104906083
If I was an anti, i can see someone replacing the right one with Neuro in the right with:
>Evil with an 'X' on her
>v3 voice
>interesting integrations
>collab streams
And replace the left one with someone seething /here/ on the computer screen and thinking of (insert your favorite whore here)
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>>104906234
>people
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>>104906171
>>104906234
I don't get it. What am I suppossed to be seeing here?
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>>104906171
jesus christ
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>>104906307
Five Nights At Freddies
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>>104905747
from someone unfairly banned twice from there I doubt vedal reads those
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>>104906227
Hiyori was wise beyond her years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06CQ1GPLQY&t=11511s
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>>104906162
>>104906240
What if...
>J0ker gets Vedal and Anny together in a Discord call for content and they bedgudgingly do it because 'content' and at first they subtly shit talk each other with serious intent but gradually they start to act more casual with one another like in the old days and the shit talk each other playfully and start to make up and in the end they leave the call looking forward to the next call with the other
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>>104906335
And?
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>>104906253
I believe you're Not an anti because I can see an Anti being stupid enough to believe any of that stuff would make a difference Neuro streams enjoyment
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>>104906359
Add "rape tubers" and that's it, that's the joke
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Imagining anny or vedal or possibly both seeing what kind of fanfics anons /here/ make about them makes me giggle
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This model looks cute, when are we going to get it?
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>>104906150
Trust me anything that they saw of me would not effect them in the slightest. All of them are stupid questions I ask here, hypotheticals, very obvious jokes that aren't serious in the slightest, and basic neuro art. You think should be more worried about the other anons cause their a real trip
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>>104906426
>All of them are stupid questions I ask here, hypotheticals, very obvious jokes that aren't serious in the slightest
but would they know that, is the true question
because, anon, you already know just how menhera these people are; do you really believe that they won't take a single one of your post seriously and get pissed off about it
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>>104906405
>Hey vedal i have an idea
>What?
>Im going to unfollow you and stop talking about you on streams
>Why?
>Imagine the way the 4chinners are gonna loose their shit thinking you did something to me
>That would be kinda funny
>Yeah
>Should i also start avoiding mentioning you on stream?
>Lol yeah do it
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>>104906336
oh i know. but i will give the mods no choice other than to involve him
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>>104906403
>>104906459
>>104906522
kys
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Wait, what have I missed? Joker only does average edits and occasionally grifts with the C-tier collab partners, how is he in any way relevant to this discussion?
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>>104906498
Unlikely scenario. Neither of the two could ever possible commit to the bit this much.
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Anny's loose greasy cunt
Vedal's average penus
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>>104906498
This cope finally died after twitchcon
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>>104906565
He likes mentioning his name in this thread in hopes others mentions him too
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>>104906500
lol the mods are biggest enforcers of the status quo. nothing will happen
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I like to imagine Vedal squirming behind his computer screen every time Neuro mentions Anny.
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>>104906600
i have leverage none of them can ignore (^:
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>>104906525
>>104906525
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I like to imagine Anon squirming behind his computer screen every time his fantasy gets shattered
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looking cool j0ker joker joker joker joker j0ker
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>>104906652
bro thinks hes a splinter in the foot
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Sex with Toma
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>>104903524 (me)
Holy shit you guys are autistic. I left this message and had to go for an hour and I come back to some of the most insane assumptions about their fallout. I don't know fully what happened, but it was clear to me that anny/tanya did not enjoy working on evil's model nearly as much as neuro's.
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>>104906600
but don't they see that the fad is dying so they'll gey pay freezes and a diminishing discord?
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>>104906492
I can't say how pissed off they will get depends on their type of humor. I don't follow a lot /swarm/ meaner running gags so they wouldn't get that side of it through me. I'm fine if they got upset at it cause not all them will hit but none are actually straight up mean spirited insults so it wouldn't effect them in that way if they saw it. I find it mostly funny cause I would be interested in seeing a reaction in me comparing swarm to sonic fans and other similar sorts of jokes like that



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