>>104926218
Grem. Shiori could not save him.

>>104926218
>started streaming on PL
>going to twitch events
yeah hes on his way out

>>104926218
he should have graduated after that his hiatus he took

>>104926218
Reminds me of that one panel showing all the EN girls having personal signatures and messages on portraits of themselves and Gura's was just fucking blank lol.

>>104926218
Grim but understandable.
He was really pushing for all those projects and even rented an office to make his own 3D studio, but it never really went anywhere due to cover's incompetence or laziness or whatever.

Real shame. He's a good dude.

>>104927756
Ame did it on her own. Skill issue.
Why does Cover have to help with his own projects?

>>104927858
What are you even babbling about? He did do things on his own. The problem is it never went anywhere, just like Ame.
I'm not talking about help with projects. I'm talking basic shit like actually fixing the equipment they said they would when he sent it in.

>>104927890
I like how the example you gave proves my point.
Because that's the only one I know also, I thought you would know more.

>>104926218
His graduation will not be surprising considering he did say he almost chose to quit 6 months ago

But I will be surprised if he chooses to leave NOW when StarsEN finally have a concert and a more competent PR management. Personally I think it would make more sense if he leaves around May or June just before 4th anniversary of Tempus, not before the end of this year at least. And who knows, maybe the success of this concert will determine his will to stay as well

>>104926218
Anon, you have been doomposti g about Altare for months, you are starting to be the meme here.

>>104928621
Not really. I mostly know him from Dokibird's side. I know he's a good dude and he's great with tech and had lofty dreams involving music and 3D, but that's about it. I know I've read actual laundry lists from stars fans of projects he's attempted to start/run by management that were shut down though.

>>104927756
>Astel : We're being handed way more support than we deserved
>Altare : The lack of support is unbelievable
Who should we believe?

>>104929585
Aren't they in separate branches?

>>104929585
Astel is JP and gets JP privilege. Altare is EN AND KOREAN. Do the math.

>>104929585
This is why I don't understand Altare if he graduates. It is clear that Cover did not abandon the branch and even went out of their way to create a separate account for StarsEN with separate PR manager who is arguably more competent in their PR and more friendly towards Stars sisters than before. And why would they let StarsEN have their concert if they don't plan to do anything with them?

Either Altare is entitled to think he should be treated like how NijiEN Luxiem is treated (which is one of the reason why Magni decided to leave) or somehow everyone else lied about the improvement for some reason

>>104929883
Pretty sure JP and EN have very very different experiences in terms of treatment by management, even for the homos

>>104929883
thing is, this concert is supposedly their last chance and the homos are completely done if sisters don't put their money where their mouth is, and judging by all the homos' reactions even they know it's hopeless

>>104929947
It’s a market test to see if they should invest in the idol journey. If it flops, they’ll just be streamer slop. Nobody fired jp stars for being 2view shitters, niji doesn’t fire finana no matter how low her yardstick goes, petra remains “employed”, altare remains “employed” until they say otherwise. They’re not going to be thanos snapped out of existence.

>>104929947
I think there is some over-reaction to it and they are worded like that to drum up the numbers. Also there are no tickets sold here and the only revenue from this concert is its merch, which Stars sisters happily buy it after months of begging, so the only value that this concert can bring is "Here. Stars does have a decent size of fanbase so it is still worth it to invest in them", and if they can prove to have the same size of demand as the HoloID at least, they should be able to have more opportunities like another online concert like this. Obviously no sisters are expecting StarsEN to go on a world tour or have a venue in New York yet, but at least they can prove the demand is enough to let them stay in Expo and have more 3D events (dont know why but I have a feeling Stars won't appear in Expo in the near future if they cant show themselves off now)

>>104926218
Everything is fine as long as the red twink stays

>>104926218
The less the merrier.

>>104927890
Why would it even be Cover's job to fix his tracking equipment? Did they make it? They were assholes for saying they would (though I somehow doubt some balding higher up or some sound recording guy said so, it was probably just his manager acting on his own), but I never understood the expectation that they should. Especially in the context of "unfair treatment to holostars" that it's always posted. They don't fix random shit for the girls either. They're not an equipment fixing company.
Pekora had projects cancelled that made her cry on stream and specifically whine that they approved very similar project by other members. Pekora, she's fucking massive, probably brings them more money then all of Holostars. Still laughs at the idea of quitting, still makes projects, still makes things happen.
Homos don't do much due to not having enough funds in the first place, but that's nobody's fault. Not their fault for not working hard enough, not their audience's fault for not giving enough money, not the uninterested people's fault for being uninterested. Nobody is owed stardom.
Sometimes you just have to settle for what you can make. And THEY DON'T. That concert they're getting is a lot more than people of their viewership usually get. Does nobody remember the webms from NijiEN's paid concert? They're getting top of the industry shit with their 3D because Cover already has top of the industry shit due to the money the girls bring in.
Oga and Miyabi were the first to use the brand new self operation 3D booth, you think the investment that took came out of the money these two bring? Hell no, it's yet more cool stuff made possible by the girls that they get to enjoy by being a part of the same parent company. Being in Cover is a boost that lets them punch far above their weight already.

>>104930065
Isn't streamer slop exactly the thing stars fans wanted anyway?
Who knows, they might be better off being regular streamers than male idols.

>>104926218
Cover should not lose the talents that are actually hardworking like Axel, Bettel and Octavio who went out of their way making content and promoting the brand to the outside world without relying on the girls. You can't blame Cover for not giving you concert venue if you don't have enough fans to fill half of it. Go out there and make your names known, not just to Ollie and Liz, but to everyone else and give them reason to acknowledge your existence. What Astel said is true, that they can't just sit there and feed from Cover's money generated by the girls. They need to start being proactive NOW

>>104930358
>Bettel
>hardworking

>Axel and Octavio
>didnt rely on girls
Roru.

>>104930385
He said "the girls", so Hololive girls. Never watched Octavio but Axel avoids Hololive for the most part. He even avoids Holocure streams.
His collab with that fortune telling ESL lady was great. He also tried making connections with non Holo JP chuubas. Never paid out or amounted to anything, but it's a respectable path.

>>104930065
You can never be too sure even if thanos-snapping a branch has never happened before. Cover is perfectly capable of setting a precedent. And with the insane pressure stars en is putting on their fans to boost their concert numbers? Seems like they were given an ultimatum of some kind.

>>104930385
>memoryholing Kronii skinwalking Axel
>also Octavio joining Jurard in tagging Liz before her debut

>>104929947
If this is their idea of marketing (guilt-tripping fans) then they should just dissolve the branch

>>104930491
The ones pushing the concert hard are those who dream of sololives and have music production as their focus (axel, hakka and octavio) and they even have a subunit together to do covers. No more 3D = they reach their glass ceiling

>>104930669
>dream of sololives
You have to be fucking kidding me lol

>>104930923
why would somebody sign up to an idol company if they don't want to be stage idols? streamer sloppers have all graduated

>>104930923
>hire guys who want to do 3D lives like their JP counterparts have done and dream of a solo live just like the other music focused girls do
>"lol are you kidding what idiots"
God forbid they hire people with ambition and who want in on the idol path.

>>104931221
They'd have a better chance becoming a legit artist outside of holo given numbers matter in a big way for who gets sololives. It's delusional to expect it in their lifetime. Far more popular holojps are still grinding for one. The three dudes mentioned are mega runts even in their branch.

>>104930669
A subunit with one song cover which toom them a year to make

>>104930669
Axel needed to go harder during the debut hype period, I think he sadly took his 4 view days for granted and is now paying for it. The only thing that would qualify as an original song for him exists because of a collab with a vocaloid producer for an event, it was actually pretty good, but he should have at least a couple of his own by now if he was music focused. Without funds there can't be music, I guess, but without music it's even harder.
He also keeps nerfing himself with karaoke mostly being shooting the shit instead of trying to take it seriously and giving it his all. He definitely doesn't act like someone with music as his focus.

>>104929585
Different perspectives and expectations
Astel (JP homo) believes that they should earn their keep and thus, realized that they were given more than they deserved
Altare (EN homo) expected to be treated as good as the girls or close to, and got jaded / threw a fuss when they weren’t

>>104931221
>>104931266
Not even the large majority idols get their solo concerts. VTubing and Holo-wise, more than half of HoloJP and every HoloEN except one haven't gotten a solo live yet.
There is being ambitious and there is being delusional. Holostars are nowhere nearly popular or profitable enough for sponsors to even consider them yet. They need to learn to walk before dreaming of winning Olympic in running.
"Idol path"? If they want to walk the idol path, shut up, grit their teeth and work through hardship while praying to get more popular.

>>104931566
>expected to be treated as good as the girls or close to
But they were. The hype just died down, in large part because Tempus was sold on the camaradarie angle, the strong gen unit, and it all fell apart before their first aniversary.
They were released like royalty, but they still needed to prove the expected demand was there, and it ended up not being. It's really no one's fault. Cover gave them more than they needed to, they could just focus on releasing more female gens that would print money, but they took the risk, it didn't pay off, they downscaled. Still got 3 gens in the same time EN girls also only got 3, 2023 for both, but with EN girls having a 2 year headstart. Where is the unfair treatment?
FUWAMOCO recently talked about how Advent weren't allowed to release an original song on debut, which is why they made the Kaibutsu cover instead. When their chat brought up Mori, they said "rules were different back then compared to when we debuted"
They debuted in 2023, so fair game. But you know who also debuted in 2023 with a full original song and separate MV release for said song? An EN homo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOYBy6mtV1E
If anything this is preferential treatment towards them, but I don't resent them for it or anything, only fair that the branch taht needs the boost gets more lax rules to help them reach their goals. It's just that this idea that they got shafted is probably born from a misunderstanding of how Hololive works. The girls pull their weight, they fund their own projects, they get sponsors, they promote themselves and their own brand. It's not Cover doing everything for them. It wasn't Choco-sensei on Nippon Budokan, it was Suisei. Mori was the one performing at the expo. Long history of grind and investing everything towards their dreams paying off, not just "be at Cover, get everything handed to you."

>>104931701
Don't disagree with the gist of your post, but any idol worth a shit was laughed at by ironic retards for their lofty dreams once in their lives. The idol path is all about working towards that goal with the help of your audience, who in turn you help push forward with your determination too. Suisei was rejected in idol auditions, now she had AKB as background dancers for her. The people who rejected her auditions probably thought her Budokan dream was ridiculous too, if she even had the courage to tell them.
The vast majority of the ones getting sololives now didn't start dreaming of them after 2022, they dreamed of it long before vtubing existed and in their original dreams the virtual aspect wasn't a part of it.
It may never come true in Holostars, but it will never come true in any capacity if they don't start working towards it and never stop. You don't even get into Cover without putting in the grind to build your portfolio.

>>104931710
Well, he didn't throw a fuss from the beginning either. He only started doing it much later. He probably thought their initial treatment should've been the bare minimum they should get

>>104931806
Right, which means he doesn't understand how Hololive works. Or Holostars for that matter, it always bothered me how little EN knew or cared about JP stars. They were clearly all Hololive tourists.
There's more JP holostars fans in holoEN than in starsEN, which is depressing.

How retarded do you have to be as a holostar to quit for the indie career?

>>104931829
basically every starsEN hire saw calli and just wanted to do epic cool shit like her and got their bubble VERY abruptly burst by realizing they were in the wrong fucking branch and didn't have a clue how to work the jap fax machine grind

>>104931853
It's not gonna make a huge difference in their prospects as a vtuber

>>104931996
The worst part is he seems to be going the fleshtuber route, as a korean soft boy. Let's see how that works out.

>>104932058
Cover has a vtubing non compete clause, you can flesh stream as much as you want, you can coom on camera and sell your lewds, they don't give a shit, just don't vtube on the side. He needs to formally quit and then wait a few months to be allowed to do proper vtubing.

>>104926218
This guy has always been a fag, good riddance.

>>104929585
Context is important, anon.
>Astel
Was talking about his personal -feelings- about how he wanted to grind to achieve shit, and it was mostly talk aimed at their actual two concerts (and few other events), which sold out, but Cover decided not to do them anymore for some reason. There's also a clip of Astel moaning about how their limited merch always sold out, but Cover refused to increase stock and that ultimately led to them stopping "unique" merch releases and going for cookie-cutter shit.
>Altare
When he said "lack of support is unbelievable" he was jaded because Cover lied to him about 3D equipment. As you know, they send their talents 3D home tracking shit, but they refused to send his because "there were problems". He waited for HALF A YEAR until finally telling them to send the shit over to him. It arrived all dusty, which implies no one even touched it, and he fixed it himself after googling for 10 minutes.

Thing is, these are not unique cases of incompetence. There were many other instances of them fucking over both branches of holostars by cancelling projects midpoint, straight out refusing to do their jobs (like that subunit thing JPs wanted), and fuck knows what else.
No matter how you look at it, Cover corp has grossly mismanaged their homo talents by sheer incompetence. I'm not saying they should receive more support because they're 10x smaller than the girls, but is it really unrealistic to expect staff to do their fucking jobs right? Seeing anons rave about homos receiving some sort of special treatment is absolutely bonkers to me.
>Altare leaving
Wouldn't surprise me. In his RM stream he basically talked about the straw that broke the camel's back, and it's quite easy to guess that it's the 3DLive. He always wanted to do idol activities, talked about doing a sololive/duo concert with Axel one day, went out of his way to start up his own 3D studio, and so on. HomoJP got 2 actual concerts that sold out and they had them when their numbers were lower than EN. Pretty much all concerts whether be it sololives or 3DLives are prerecorded (with a few exceptions), so couldn't Cover just rent out 300-1000 seats venue for the homos and play the recording? Success or not, NijiEN been spamming shit like this, and HomoEN management couldn't even bother to try it once. It's the usual "JPs get more stuff faster" scenario. I'm not surprised few homos are moving to Japan, and Altare decided to quit after being treated like shit. I supposed HoloEN were dealing with similar issues until Advent debut, but at least they had a fuck ton of money to cope with, unlike the homos.

>>104930575
Considering they still employ Mr. Hate Marketing after he basically defamed the main branch, it's at least consistent. As horrible as it is.

>>104932086
other than the two white guys, the others use a pngtuber just fine. He really seems to be going the regular twitch streamer route and I don't think Altare is going back to vtubing.

>>104932123
It's hard to fire him without a good cause, though. "He said dumb shits and picked fight with some fans who aren't even his" isn't enough

>>104932106
>People who live in Japan get access to more resources from a japanese company
I'll never understand why people even bother bringing this up in discussion. Or when some girls complain about having to fly to Japan, some even say this is the main reason why Fauna graduated. You could always not apply and accept a job for a japanese company if being expected to go to Japan is such a crazy demand.

>>104930491
Zoomer doesn't know about HoloCN...

>>104932058
Im actually shocked his real voice, or at least the voice he puts on for flesh streaming is as terrible as the vtuber one.

>>104932206
Corpos, especially ones that take themselves as seriously as Cover does, rely entirely on kayfabe and opsec. There's a reason why Rusia never mentioned she was married. There's a reason Nimi had to do her LLD after leaving. It's a lie. We all know it is. We all pretend most of the girls aren't up to shenanigans off-camera. And that's fine, because it's off camera. It has nothing to do with the character. With the kayfabe.
And then you have this shitter. Coming in, on his corpo account, pulling the mask off for everyone. Talking himself up like he's the shoulder the girls cry on and that the boys and girls were all together during Fes, like some sort of Olympic Village scenario (strangely enough, this was the only statement he had to walk back).
I'm not even a unicorn. I don't care about Noel's other job, or if the girls are engaged/married/spend their weekends at the local gloryhole/etc. It doesn't matter, by itself. But the dinofag violated rule number 1 and attempted to break that kayfabe. Not his own, but ALL of the girls in the main branch. For his own self-admitted benefit. Which is why Cover letting him get away with it, nary a slap on the wrist is fucking baffling to me.

>>104932341
AZKi announced her marriage while still in Hololive. Rushia could have mentioned it on her RM account at any time just like AZKi did, she didn't do it because she's a lying cunt, not because of "kayfabe and opsec." She kept deying it after being fired too, only when the court case would make things public that she came clean.
Go back to twitter.

>>104930428
Axel is still invited to JP chuubas events so there's that.
>>104932106
>There were many other instances of them fucking over both branches of holostars by cancelling projects midpoint
I remember the second JP concert ended with an announcement of a big project that never happened

>>104932086
AZKi regularly vtubes on her alt just fine. Even EN girls do png-tuber stuff on the side. This myth exists because it's rare for there to be an overlap of girls with active alts, where their PLs were vtubers, and their models weren't from some small corpo. And even then, most don't see the point in doing the same thing for less money.

>>104932395
You're intentionally missing my point. I can think of at least three married holos off the top of my head. But the holo characters never bring this up. Because Cover still touts itself as an idol company. What is said and done on PL's does not matter in this case.
If Dino had his hate-marketing episode on his PL, nobody would bat an eye. But he did it wearing his corpo suit.

>>104932481
Cover explicitly stated that their talents relationships are none of their business when the Rushia drama was going down.

>>104932532
Rusia was their top superchat earner, and the cat was already out of the bag at that point. It was only her breaking contract NDA that lead to any consequences.

>>104932586
Matsuri also openly said Cover doesn't have anything against relationships, including between talents, and that was years ago. Kiara recently said she was in relationships before.
She did say not currently, but I don't think you can make a strong case that Cover actively asks them to lie instead of just omit, so talking about current relationship status is not forbidden either.
It's not about corporate enforced kayfabe, it's about knowing no paying customer wants to hear about that shit. Even the ones that aren't against it on principle don't want to hear about it. There's literally no reason to talk about it.

>>104932633
While I have a few issues with your argument, I will allow it. My point still remains that dino blabbing about it is still in incredibly poor form, regardless if there are official or mere de facto expectations for talking about sex/relationships, and it's strange he suffered no consequences from his employer for it.

>>104926218
I feel bad for axel. He is the only one who actually gives a shit.
Fuck ruze, bettel, goldbullet, flayon, octavio and jurard.
We need stars who play video games and doesn't care about idolshit projects.

>>104932735
Isn't being a heel more kayfabe-heavy than anything? I doubt he antagonizes any talent or staff behind the scenes, so it's just him being larger than life on camera.
I really don't see why in the world he would be fired for it. Wish I could agree, though, don't get me wrong.

>>104932735
It isn't because everyone blabs about that shit and also its just fair to assume the girls are in a relationship. I have no idea why you faglords are so scared of something so trite.

>>104932790
There's a realm of difference between being a heel, and trying to ruin the reputations of main branch members all so you can have eyes on yourself for 15 minutes. Again - I don't even care about, or agree with the don't-ask-don't-tell rule (be it unspoken or written), but I would imagine a lot of the girls would like to keep that under wraps for practical reasons. B/c having that info out there does hurt your numbers, provably. But, no, this asshole in the side branch wanted attention, so he implied that we all get dicked down on the regular. On his corporate account. Talking about our corporate accounts.
And the only thing he had to walk back was the "we all rode on the same bus" comment, which implies that management did know about it, but took offense with THAT, above everything else he said. Again, I just find it odd.

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lmao

>>104932884
Okay, fine. Go into a stream and address them by their PL/RM handle and ask them what size condoms they buy. See how well that goes for you.

>>104932976
The reputations of the branch members are ruined by their own actions and not some guy who just yaps and yaps and yaps. Let's not pretend that the girls are not manipulative.

>>104932058
He has a pimple face his skin is too wrinkly his hairline is receding his eyes are non existent and his teeth are ugly and his voice doesn’t match the gook face it comes out of

>>104932773
Yeah right. Axel is their most senior member yet he can't even persuade his branchmates to collab anymore. Holostars EN is dead.

>>104927756
>blaming homo laziness on Cover

seriously?

None of this faggots had ambition to do anything more by themselves and it's obvious Cover will and should prioritize holos who actually make them all the money instead of financing stupid passion projects for homo leeches with no audience or revenue

>>104929400
they're cutting homo budget that's what more competent management do, that stupid concert is their farewell in a way.

>>104929531
>management

homos are a nightmare to work with

>>104931566
Astel is a giant self-sabotaging menhera himself but he did more idol and 3D shit than any EN homo that's for sure

>>104931894
none of this homos wanted "epic" and "cool" it's more like gay and lame, they had no appeal to male audience other than maybe Vesper and he was also a giant retard.

>>104927858
And where is Ame now?

>>104932228
Fauna needed her daily plapping sessions she can't function without them please undestand

>>104927858
>>104927890
ame is doing the same shit she was doing before: nothing
it dooby like that

>>104932106
I would assume their management is just to small and overworked as it is to handle this lavish ambitious projects homos come up with and did that fag even had support from his branchmates while proposing this shit? I don't think so, this faggots don't even seem to like each other especially between generations so how they can work on something bigger? You can't expect management to do everything for them.

>>104933043
What the fuck are you going on about?

>>104933997
You people have been saying this for years and nothing ever happens

>>104926218
>tried to fujobait day one and got rejected by his genmates
>Pissed Vesper off so badly he wanted to punch him
>No one in his branch actually likes him not even Axel
Should have quit 3 years ago.

>>104933997
If i was a holostar i would collab with axel. I hate collabs but i would give him the gold card. Don't care if i have to stay up to 3am or wake up in ungodly hours or just sit there and yap while he's playing horse pussy. If there is anyone who deserves at least a little something in the entirety of hololive or holostars it would be him. Dude got put through the wringer.

>>104934910
No one in holostars like holostars. They're not even doing this concert for their fans, just themselves. They're all self-centered self centered babies.

>>104935216
Based.
Cancel all hololive and holostar idolshit since its all self serving.

>>104935216
>They're not even doing this concert for their fans, just themselves
Jurard seems to be a true fan if you knew him before he joined.

>>104934876
>nothing happens
Seems to be anon's point, not literally being shitcanned lol

Good. I hope the entire branch finally goes away. Waste of resources.

>>104934914
axel’s a good kid that just got fucked over by his own genmates

>>104932395
>AZKi announced her marriage
The person who is playing AZKi announced her marriage. AZKi did not. You see the difference?

>>104934914
axel is a fucking sexpest and a retard who has actually brought down the whole thing with him after he sexually attacked girls each time he was in a GTA server playalong

>>104935676
>You see the difference?
most people can’t seperate the character from the actor unfortunately.

>Hey, guys, this concert is essentially make of break for us if we want more opportunities
>Altare goes off to stream on his rm and hasn’t streamed on his main in two months
>Bettel decides now would be the best time to take a two week vacation despite missing months at a time whenever he catches a cold
>Ruze is too busy doing Nijinigger streams instead of promoting his own branches event
>Flayon keeps whining about his fans not respecting his boundaries and stops streaming
>Not a lone, single collab to promote the 3D
This is half the management coddling them too much and half on them for sinking the event for the others that gave a damn.

>>104935903
Why would Bettel care, he is the only one that get any numbers in their branch and its pretty obvious he is close to the two graduated member. If anything i am surprised he is still here.

>>104935903
Well, then it's time for starsen management to mandate some collabs like how starsjp management did.

>>104935676
Big difference indeed.

>>104935715
That's really unfortunate.

>>104935333
He was a true clip watcher of hololivejp

>>104936102
>He was a homofan since before the beginning.
Suddenly, a lot of things started making sense all at once.

>>104935715
>>104936061
Its an inevitability. At some point all of us had a thought of wanting the girl behind the avatar. Then its a matter of whether we can back off from that delusion and enjoy the actual kayfabe.

>>104935713
It's easy to tell you never watched GTA roleplay slop streams

>>104932106
>No matter how you look at it, Cover corp has grossly mismanaged their homo talents by sheer incompetence.
you can just remove the word 'homo' from this. Reminder that its 6 years in and jp holos still need to prerecord even the simplest 3D events because they cannot trust Cover's AudioVideo team to not fuck up a live studio broadcast for 2 hours. If these staffers worked at the local weather channel they would be publicly flogged for the level of day-to-day incompetence that they show.

>>104935903
I'm a fan of both branches and im not watching the concert. I've been pretty loud in my hatred for anything idol adjacent.

Rest in piss faggot, you won't be missed

>>104935333
Jurard is a Hololive fan. He kept gushing about Pekora during his debut but not once mentioned Holostars. He didn't even know how to pronounce Rio's name even when he said he was his oshi

>>104926218
Cover was so incompetent they did sabotage Gura and Mumei in numerous ways. Would not be a shock that Altare had gone through bad management decisions that slowly made him cynical. There were 7 talents in the recent Hololive graduation wave so it makes sense that a few talents in Holostars feel the same way and have a negative view of the company.

>>104929585
Astel can be correct that expensive 3D concerts aren't justified given their revenue. Altare can also be correct that management doesn't give a shit about the foreign talents and they get little support from management. Both can be true and Cover management has become more soulless in recent years.

>>104930065
>Petra who just had a collab song with a famous singer for tgs

>>104937292
Aww don't go!
Octavio would miss you! He wants everyone to watch, post, and meme about the concert more! more! MORE! Gotta hit those KPIs, amirite?

>>104926218
reminds me of Vesper right before the end

I'm sure it's fine tho

There are still plenty western hololive fans who aren't into idol stuff and the breaks it causes so it is frankly an impossible ask to find an audience who cares about male idolshit. It is a waste of time and resources.

>>104935903
Not even surprised to see the homos themselves don't care lol

>>104934914
I'll always feel bad for the guy. He got saddled with genmates who abandon him when he just wants to play multiplayer games with them. It's fucking sad.

>>104939293
>He got saddled with genmates who abandon him when he just wants to play multiplayer games with them.
even when vesper fucked up their pokemon soul link with his suspension, axel still tried to look out for vesper when he decided to go a menhera trip to japan.

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why did Ruze get hit with the de-musclify beam

>>104927756
He wanted cover to pay for his shit.

>>104930385
>Bettel
>hardworking
This, i saw him more on youtube short with notmagni than his stream.

>>104926218
God fucking dammit... First, they took away from me HoloSALT, and now Kobalt, because the fucking homos couldn't put themselves together as proper normal workers (Yes, I'm a weird case, I don't like the homos individually, but those two collab groups were actually pretty fun to watch for me.)

>>104932633
>making organs lie

>>104932633
>There's literally no reason to talk about it.
Not even the most homofriendly chuuba in Hololive is braindead enough to touch that minefield, lmao.

>>104935333
>if you knew him before he joined
Didn't that dino faggot used to use porn images of holos in his old thumbnails? He's just a retarded hololive tourist that tried to sex pest his way in and then threw a baby tantrum in members when he got cockblocked.

>>104940193
delet this

>>104940193
sexpest lost all meaning when you realize people who throw out that term are sexpests themselves

>>104940586
>that specific Anon is a sexpest
qrd?

>>104929585
Astel is right, if they had the numbers that they do but where not part of Cover they wouldn't even have 3D

>>104940586
>I'm closer to them than you will ever be
Just going off of that dinofaggot quote you can tell that he was so mad that he got segregated and thrown into the second class citizen bus away from the girls kek

>>104926218
Poor Kobo...

>>104940709
That specific anon is a sexpest.

>>104941234
what a slut

>>104940977
plenty of male vtubers have been outed as being sexpests with receipts. provide proof or stfu.

>>104940977
That's because they are? There are a multitude of people who are closer to them than us. There's literally no point in getting angry about it.

>>104941455
That's not the point retard, I didn't say wasn't closer but that him bragging about it is just a mask slip of the real reason why he joined Homostars in the first place. If he wasn't so angry about the segregation he wouldn't feel the need to even mention it.

>>104941599
I'd advise you to save your breath, anon. Dinodefenders will pretend to win any argument by simply ignoring what you're saying.

>>104941712
Yeah not gonna bother with those faggots, the clip is there for everyone to watch

>>104941599
You do know that he said that specifically to get people riled up? If you get mad about it that means you're giving him power over you the fact that you're talking about it months after the fact means he still has power over you.
Do what every streamer says when there are greynames acting like fags, ignore them and move on.

>>104941712
Case in point with that dinofaggot defender, you called it kek

>>104934418
Seeeeethe

there's no way he doesn't realize how bad of a look this is for the entire branch. he had his personal boo hoo sob moment when the other 2 left and now he's planning on jumping ship the same way. grim

>>104943751
everyone knew this when he shit on management.
It's a story that we all know well.
It's ALWAYS managements fault.

>>104939475
because he's a they/them ex-twink

>>104926218
If someone is quitting after a concert, they should not be allowed to join the concert.

>>104945150
>Shion
But in all honesty, it'd be fucking hilarious if Altare isn't in the concert at all.

>>104945220
he’s in all the advertisements and trailers, so it would be extremely weird if he isn’t. they would have to cut out all the performances he’s in.

>>104929644
StarsJP literally get less than StarsEN

>>104932106
Sorry, we're not forgetting Omega and the grim era. HoloEN was left flailing for a year and a half so some chuuni faggot could live out his fantasy of copying NijiEN and trying to create a mixed branch at the expense of fans and talent. HomoEN getting breadcrumbs would be more than they deserve.

>>104932106
Grok is this real?
Honestly if this post is true I feel really bad for them.

>>104945619
Feel bad for what? They were given a red carpet rollout to be willing pawns in a delusional narcissists's scheme to destroy HoloEN.

>>104932249
Yogurt, my beloved...

>>104945220
>>104945317
He's in the concert. Graduation announcement in like a week tops

>>104926218
Is anyone surprised? I remember him talking about how he met up with Magni in Japan, so Magni probably got into his head and made his management hate even worse.

...Why don't they promote their idolshit with dancing or singing shorts? Begging for attention on twitter with guilt tripping and ominous messaging is weird. No wonder these guys don't go anywhere

>>104946592
>so Magni probably got into his head and made his management hate even worse.
this doesn't make sense because magni regrets the easy money from being a holostar. it was bad enough that he's been talking with bettel behind the scenes which is why bettel has been checked out for over a year now. do the bare minimum but stay in the company for an easy pay check and use the connections to "network" on your PL. it wouldn't make sense for altare to leave the branch after learning from magni's mistakes.

>>104947012
What Magni regrets changes every week

>>104929585
the actual sensible fag instead of the menhera korean

>>104945850
civia...

Uhh I don't know shit about how many members they have but given the shorts are in a countdown would he not be in the 1 day left short? Or did the concert already happen

>thread keeps getting bumped upon hitting page nine or ten

>>104948811
>>104950009
>>104950953
Samefag.

while I'm here, let's see who got >>104950000

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>>104951043
try again homobeggar

>>104951037
There was no final day short, just a 40 second youtube trailer video

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>>104951147
I too use 4chan X.

>>104926218
Who?

>>104929585
Astel is a serial liar.

>>104951460
>astel would paint his own branch in a negative light because...he just would, okay?

>>104952138
He does that, talking shit about his co-workers while wishing he was part of the cool group with the popular streamers and niji is the norm for him, most japanes star fans hate him.

>>104945411
No they don't.

>>104945690
Meds.

>>104952138
He does so he can paint himself as the hero that understands better than anyone and will save the branch.
Except his narrative falls apart when you take a look at his actions at any point in time.

>>104935955
Not anymore. Ruze has been stealing his lunch all this year. Hope that makes the clown considered to also graduate.

>>104954387
I was there, you're not getting away with this.

>>104954550
he can go on vacation twelve times a year and fuck his fans at conventions so they pour more money into his vtuber, why would he ever graduate. it's the ultimate scheme

>>104954602
Hearing the voices inside you head doesn't make you being correct, it makes yous a pure breed schizo. lol