what killed the hype?
BAU BAU
>>105062605WHERE IS MOCOCO'S HAT HOEH?
>>105062605FWMC earning and mindshare >> entirety of nijiEN branch.
>>105062605Pero
>>105062682sybau
>>105062605boring Teletubbies
>>105062682FAT FUCK
>>105062605moving to japan then switching audience after using americans to build themselves up to 1m in a year. theyre race traitors.
Japanophilia.
>>105062891If I was the same race as you, I'd do the same.
>>105062605Personally it was their number faggotry. In particular their obsession with getting to a million subs. Like, shut the fuck up you were going to get there. I like them, but it was such a black mark against them.
>>1050626052 years in and I still don't really know which one is which.
>>105062605i heard these 2 play up the incest gimmick a lot, do they still do that or is there no more reason to watch them
>>105062605Time
Happy birthday 4chan!>>105063588You sound like a jealous overweight woman
>>105062605I feel like half the people talking about them switching to JP are just people who never watched them, but it genuinely made me lose interest in them after being a regular viewer since they debuted.I feel like their entire focus changed to JP pandering as soon as they got their visa, and it felt kind of shitty to be honest
>>105063588All the best Holos are massive number fags though? Miko, Pekora, Subaru, Koyori. Not caring about numbers is how you get lazy do nothing shitters like Gura and Fauna
>>105062605Nimicuck you lost...
>>105063825You got filtered. That’s intentional. Ironlung is who you want for a pure EN vtuber
>>105062605They're are not funny people only care about them for the R18 fanart
>>105063893So are the worst. Like Kiara. Being an obnoxious shitter about getting to the next 100k is exhausting.
Lack of fun streams, constant shilling, too much idol stuff, too many company events. I've moved on they're not what I want at all.
>>105062605Japan
>>105062605Their obsession with JP ruffians, Mococo's tantrum about nicknames, beating the twincest joke to the point that even ruffians are uncomfortable about it, etc.
>>105062605They're cute, but not very entertaining to watch for long periods of time
>>105063588/thread
>>105062638Mogojyan....
>>105062605
>>105063588Yeah like Pekora or Koyori or Suisei or ...
They’re corporative mascots and come in a par so I cant get to the point I feel closer and parasocial. Still very cute designs and I love Fuwawa’s singing voice enough to buy their merch if is something I personally want.
Themselves.
>>105077906It's a bit different if they are years in the company vs taking sweet time off to move to japan and begging for 1M in the first year.
>>105062682I knew that bastard was up to something...
The truth anons here don't want to admit is that it's because they are 95% kayfabe. It makes them cute and inoffensive, but bad for building gachis, because they never even attempt to hide how inauthentic they are.
They literally just say bau bau too much.
>>105063893yes but even then they were the first to be this anal about it. like when they were getting close you had the screen taken up by 70% text and subcount things begging. Like sure put a subcounter up, but don't make it the whole screen for 2 weeks.
The passage of time. Nothing stays novel forever
The fact that they aren't entertaining at all, they just put on fake voices, act hyperactive and constantly babble BAU BAU?
>>105063893Then it becomes a job.Just do what you enjoy, and it will come naturally. That's how they built fans outside of the box.
>>105078431Like that one vertical super mario world stream, that was actual cancer to look at.
>>105066370That's all it really is for me. Went from tons of random goofy shit and just showing up to play some stupid stuff while acting dopey to all of that all the time. Oct-April really made me fall out on them. Not that I won't ever watch their content, but I just don't actively look to see what they're doing (unless they do something with someone else I like).
>>105081602Newsflash: it is their job
>>105062605I dropped them after they kept cancelling their morning streams
>>105087405Only those lacking courage or talent remain in jobs they despise.
Not streaming.
What what do you mean they switched to JP don’t they speak English
LOL. Not suprised with whats going on. Very typical canadian behavior.Can't help but kinda not feel sorry for anyone falling for them.
>>105063893Being a numberfag and making your entire identity about numbers are not the same thing. JP numberfags are numberfags in that they make popular content that gets numbers (something Fuwamoco has never tried to do). Fuwamoco are numberfags in that they literally begged for numbers and tried to tie numbers to their identity as a way to help them accomplish their goals.
>>105062605battle plansoperating like a company and holding into highly requested fan focused content to release it two years later after increases in membership prices
Very few can actually hold onto hype for a long time, especially on the EN side of things. It comes in waves.That being said, FWMC just don't appeal to the EN market and their type of content wore off long ago for the EN zeitgeist. It's why you'll see more popularity for people like Gigi and CC, especially with the 'newness' factor. Add in that they went pretty hard on shilling for the company itself and general shilling outside of that, and that they don't have any continuous music releases to latch onto, and it makes sense why for the Western audience, they've dropped in popularity.Lucky for them they have an ok JP fan following.
>>105062605Their stream is just not entertainingshrimple as
>>105063893numberfagging is the worst aspect of all of those chuubas
repeat thread #345,897with the exact same samebrowners in the repliesall fields etc. etc.
>>105062638It got glorped.
>>105093740Can you really blame them, knowing their past experiences? They feel like content creators that were constantly denied their channels due to numbers, so now they don't have the mentality that their current position would let them worry less about it.
>>105097651Yes, yes I can. It makes it feel a lot more like a job. Fortunately (or unfortunately) for them it's felt a lot more like that for everyone on the EN side as of late.
>>105062605Mococo's autism.
>>105097703It is a job though. Honestly the worst thing about EN is the lackadaisical indie like culture of slacking off and taking it easy, luckily that started to change with Advent and they're all taking it a lot more seriously. A lot of dead weight like Gura and Fauna got thrown off too which massively helped the branch do things without two useless turds clogging things up by ghosting everyone
>>105097703If it saw it as their job and would worry about it it wouldn't take them a year to finish DK2
>>105097775Yet you likely bitch about talents who put in consistant streaming hours, as if apperant by your comment about Advent. The average for streaming hours has gone down over the last 2 years for EN, and that's with 'trimming the fat' like you say they did with Gura and Mumei.
>>105097703Idk, maybe I'm just not as jaded but I don't really feel like most of the EN girls I watch have the "this a job" vibe to their streams.
>>105097790Their job witb Cover is to shill and aell stuff for themselves and the company. The numbers give them more push and more attention on the operations side of things. Playing video games casually is not their actual job, but it's the thing that gets fans initially.
>>105062605zogogo and mangojam
>>105097838General merch pushing and talking about numbers and sales has increased on basically everyone I pay attention to and watch some streams of.
unironically incelchuds clinging on to them like they are some punch in the face FOR DA CORNS, crying how they aren't American anymore when they were Kroniilanders in the first place
>>105078186This is it for me. I wonder if Japanese feel about the like how we eops feel for like korone:They’re probably way popular in JP or just mega weebs
>>105097863Yeah idk, to me it feels about the same, there has always been a lot of merch pushing around the time merch is restocked or going on sale, that was also always the case for the JP girls and Holostars in general as well. It's hard to really compared when talking about the talents as a whole instead of any specific one. Of course the thread itself is about Fuwamoco, but I never really watched them specifically outside of collabs, I just know about their previous experiences as smaller creators.
>>105097775and now saba and nimi are doing exceedingly well as indies. saba is still a force of nature and has the best indie model.
>>105097959Just look at their chat when they play FotM games. A massive amount of JP show up and talk in chat, doubly so the later the stream gets.
>>105062605ngl kind of wish they were hot irl
>>105098084i think mococo is hot. shes got a really sexy look with that hairstyle.
>>105098043>nimiHer channel growth has fallen off a cliff since her announcement.
>>105094307Wait a second what?, increase in membership prices?, what's that about?
>>105098146turd world problem
>>105098118she still gets good ccv. dont forget, she had 15k viewers every minecraft monday when she was wore faunas skin. subs arent the metric to be looking at any more.
>>105062605teletubies with tits
>>105098146I have no idea what that retard is saying. Now if you made the arguement that they do those ASMR's to try and keep people subbed who might lapse because of cancellation around the time of their membership originally opening, that I believe
>>105062605The only positive thing I can say about FuwaMoco is how easy it would be to replace them with an AI. Even a cheap one would do the job.
>>105100166>Haeh?!?!>Replace us with AI???>BAU BAU BAU BUA>Noeh, you can't replace us!They honestly have opinions about things they like as deep as an AI does.
>>105100273AI will never eat the skin of a kiwi
>>105101304But it will stream games more often and actually finish them with any consistancy
>>105062605The bit got stale
>>105062632fpbp
the actual reason: the japan arcmy personal reasons: dropping OOT and FWMC morning becoming nothing but one big formulaic ad
>>105086879Yeah same here I'm more comfy watching my new oshi because she actually does content I like. FuwaMoco might do a stream here and there I'll watch but I'm not actively watching them anymore either.
>>105097954Please learn how to write like a human being.
>>105099642They waited way too long for the asmr streams it feels like a last ditch effort to have fans come back to them.
I can't understand most things they say
>>105078186yeah I wonder how their streams would look like if they dropped the mask. Also it must be kind of exhausting