>They skipped the Promise nendos and did the Fuwamoco ones firstHoly shit, just how fucked is holoEN financially? To put that in context, IRyS, Kronii, Bae, and Mumei are by no means shitters; their nendos will undoubtedly sell. Makes you question if the EN branch has been in the red lately due to the AFO concert being flopped and a number of other issues. RIP Bae and IRyS' sololive dreams I guess. It would undoubtedly be feasible and hilarious if Saba were to receive both the nendo and a solo concert before any of the Promise girls. You gotta quit hololive to earn the things you want.
implying cover has any say in what GSC does lmao
>>105105482It's almost like homobeggars don't buy merch imagine my surprise
>>105105482Why no Faufau?
>>105105607What does holostars have to do with this
>>105105482???Saba has made zreo effort towards a nendo or concert and clearly doesn't care enough to pursue itThis whole paragraph is nonsense beyond, "they skipped promise nendos"
>>105105622She left before this was made, mumeis isn't being finished either thoughbeit
>>105105651don't act like u dont knowbeggarseethe
>>105105719T. doesn't watch Saba.
>>105105482Twins are a jackpot from business standpoint, each buyer is pretty much quaranteed to get both of them
>>105105748Enlighten me, then. What steps has Saba taken towards getting a nendoroid or setting up a concert?There's a difference between being potentially capable of something and actually taking steps to make it happen.
>>105105607>>105105731What the fuck are you talking about you fucking schizo
>>105106091NTA but she's following GoodSmile and had to delay a stream for a meeting before
>>105105482Fuwamoco were announced before promise. Saba is a flop.
>>105105482>You gotta quit hololive to earn the things you want.The Promise nendos would definitely earn money so there is something else causing all these mysterious delays. First it was the official MMD models and now it's their nendos.>>105105550Goodsmile wouldn't cancel the Mumei nendo or stop showing the Promise nendos. Cover management is 100% at fault and that is why none of the Promise talents can explain why their nendos keep getting delayed. GSC is now showing painted versions of the Fuwamoco nendos and keep in mind that Advent debuted 2 years after Council.
>>105106201She follows a lot of people. I don't think a twitter follow means much when again, she hasn't even hinted at the idea of hiring merch teams or agents or managers or anything. Popularity helps a lot, but you actually need connections to get things done. Saba's basically an island.
>>105106400>Advent debuted 2 years after Council.Tourist>Goodsmile wouldn't cancel the MumeiTourist
>>105106201I follow the President of Japan broI'm a fucking shoo-in for some prime JP idolatry despite living in Americait's going to be so based when he says I can pick my delicacy
>>105106400Fuwamoco got their nendos announced before promise because they are all shitters while fuwamoco are bigger than Gura.
>>105105482Cover Corps stock is still falling
>>105106400fuck off outfitschizo
>>105105482you are beyond retard, trannyop, go back to your tranny discord eco chamber
>>105106452you don't need any of the fucking shit you mention her hiring lmao corpopilled fucktard
>>105105482this retard has crossposted himself at # in hopes for getting more replies, lmao
Holy shit, did I got transported to May 2025 and I didn't notice?Saba isn't even 1/4th as popular as Gura was to the point where some people don't even know Gura reincarnated. All those plans (which were more like fantasies) about a Sololive and a 3D debut with all the papers and LE INDIE AVENGERS turned out to be just smoke by very intense falseflaggers.She fell sick in August and lost all drive to do anything, simple. Saba is a very good streamer but just that.
>>105106864see you in summer bucko
>>105105482Are you retarded? FWMC nendos were announced first. These will come after. >Makes you question if the EN branch has been in the red lately due to the AFO concert being flopped OK, the ESL answers my first question.
>>105106885We're already in Autumn
>>105106887nigga they were announced at the same fucking time>>105106908and?...
>>105106957Summer already came and went without nothing, or what, Summer 2027, Summer 2030, Summer 2050?
>>105106156Unicorns won again
>>105106979ok you're just retarded
>>105106857Anon, I basically just described how Dokibird was able to get her Nendoroid so quickly as an independent vtuber with no real corporate backing or history.If you have a magical secret that can get her in off of vod views alone, please share with the rest of the class.
>>105107099the magical secret is doki ain't fucking gawr gura
>>105107125Saba isn't either, she is a slightly more popular Senzawa
>>105107099the staff she had to fire?
>>105106576Them being shitters doesn't clarify who is putting a stick in the wheel - Cover or GSC
>>105107149remind me when senzawa had an anime expo booth
>>105106887never go full baubau
>>105106452>Saba's basically an islandthis is your mistake, you don't know her well and assume things
>>105106400Get the fuck out Outfitschizo, you waste of carbon and oxygen molecules.
>>105106530Japan doesn't have a president, they have a prime minister
>>105106576>Fuwamoco got their nendos announced before promise because they are all shitters while fuwamoco are bigger than Gura.The anniversary for Advent has 240k VOD views while the Myth anniversary (even after losing Ame and Gura) is now at 260k views. Fuwamoco have good numbers but nothing about that would explain why the Promise nendos are constantly being delayed. That none of their nendos have been shown after Cover cancelled Mumei's nendo.>>105106794>outfitschizoAnon how can you explain the situation with Council except for several major contract fights? Sana not renewing her contract after the first year, the many signs that Kronii was thinking of leaving, or the fact that Fauna and Mumei both decided to leave Hololive? They might have different reasons for leaving but the EN branch has constantly been fighting with management for over 3 years.
nendroids are as gay as funko poops anywayId buy full EN gen sets of figures if done by a decent company like Coreful. goodsmile is all around ass
>>105105730>thoughbeitkill yourself
>>105107416she was an island even as gura and since coming back she's just been a scared little lamb in the big wide world. I'd love to be proven wrong and that she's actually this master strategist forming a global network of connections, but I find that hard to believe.
Council/Promise is a failed gen so what do you expect?, they've taken ages to reach 1m subs and none of them have made an impact in... Anything, their big claim to glory is that they came after myth and that's it.
>>105105482Its probably Good Smiles choice, they go off numbers when prioritiesing releases
>>105111732Don't look up how many of Advent and Justice have reached 1M subs (it's only Fuwamoco)Promise sub growth was fine. In retrospect it was even good, but people expected Myth tier sub growth when they were the anomaly
GSC and Cover should slit their throats
>>105105482>Holy shit, just how fucked is holoEN financially?GSC pay cover for the license to use the characters. It's not cover paying GSC to make nendos.
>>105105482>5 were initially proposed>4 managed to prototype>1 has left so prototype can no longer proceed>1 has stated she'd leave in 2 or 3 years once her goals are doneAnd you wonder why they prioritize the BauBaus over this godforsaken gen with overly complicated designs
>>105115449You're a complete retard if you don't believe the talents receive some kind of cut from this.
>>105115754What part of that invalidates my statement?
>>105115754What does that have to do with anything?
>>105115916It's schizo hours, Anon, like every hour on the clock.
>>105115916they get a cut = there's a motivation to only focus on the merch juggernauts like FWMC to milk the maximum $$$ = this tells us that holoEN is struggling financially
>>105111732>Council/Promise is a failed gen so what do you expect?Council had more issues than any other gen in Hololive but the root cause was Cover. They didn't have the early benefits of Myth when lockdowns gave them immense subscriber growth but they had all the negatives of Myth (zero input on their model designs, early EN management that was incompetent, and constant fights with management during their early years that caused numerous delays). I don't think Yagoo is a literal anime villain like Riku (the Nijisanji CEO with the golden yacht) but he was so detached from the EN branch that he let it turn into a war zone. Good management doesn't let a contract fight get so heated that several of your employees are thinking of quitting. If management had agreed to give a model redesign to IRyS, Sana, Ina, and Kronii in 2022 instead of fighting a war than most of the EN graduations could have been avoided. The Promise nendos would have been released instead of being stuck in limbo.
>>105116223>implying they don't already factor in the cut for the talents and character illustrator when they sell merchYou have psychosis.
>>105116395Hardship lmao. Holo after Gen 5 has no right to complain. They had it way too easy.Their Nendoroids would be out by now if they were actually working hard and had real popularity.
>>105105482forget everything and re-release the Ina nendroid
>>105105482I will never forgive Fauna and Mumei from graduating and preventing me from getting a nendo of my oshi
>>105117047If real popularity mattered, Fauna's would've been released years ago.
>>105117995>Fauna>PopularHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>105106576>while fuwamoco are bigger than Gura.lmao
>>105113962The landscape is wildly different between council and advent/justice debuts, I'm not saying they are a success mind you but comparing them is kinda silly.>>105116395I'm not gonna point fingers but management undoubtly played a big, a very big part when it comes to Council and Irys failure, from the casting (lmao Sana) to everything else that they had to deal with.
>>105105482I will be forever fucking angry. Never getting figmas or even fucking pop ups of whole Promise.
Jojii, if you see this, I hope your whole family gets run over by a truck with their blood spilling across the road. Go clean the gruesome aftermath of their mangled corpses you fucking faggot
>>105120051who is jojii and does he realize that if en cant sell merch, they dont make money?
>>105106156I'm assuming that inside the schizo's mind, because Kronii and Bae did homocollabs, they lost their unicorns and homobeggars weren't enough to replace them, therefore they dragged Promise down and Cover/GSC made their nendos lower priority than FWMC's.
>>105120085HoloEN is big enough now that you are getting fans of some talents who might as well be antis for the other talents. For someone like Jojii anything that helps Advent is good even if that hurts Promise. That is the type of toxic fan attitude that destroyed NijiEN.>>105120277I remember that in 2022 there were unicorns on /vt/ who actually believed that Ina and Gura were fighting with management over Tempus. The unicorns on this board tend to cling to dumb rrats and they ignore the fact that Cover usually goes the extra mile for talents who help with HoloPro unity. That is why the current nendo situation is curious since management is targeting an entire gen.
>>105105730>thoughbeit
>>105105482>due to the AFO concert being floppedIs this board just fanfiction now?
>>105105482>It would undoubtedly be feasible and hilarious if Saba were to receive both the nendo and a solo concert before any of the Promise girls. Meanwhile in the real world Saba's peak for the entire months of august and September was 15k.
>>105118450Why u laughing? Even Karubi is bigger than that brand-risk Gura. So much that her mama prefered her to be her golden child to the point that Gura became so jealous she refused to hire her again for her Saba model.
>>105118450
>>105106864She graduated because Cover's obligatory idol work was too much for her lazy ass, and she only wanted to sit back and collect money, maybe stream when she felt like it (and keep her paypigs).
>>105121590It's funny because the "they're going to do so much shit without cover holding them back" people got real quiet.Hell they're even playing the same FOTM shit that holos are playing. Only difference is that they get to announce they're cucking their fans and get to farm more paypig money doing it.
>>105121590Nah, she just wanted to take that "Fasttest to 1M subs" title back from Salome
>>105121536fuwamoco average 4k viewers on a good day. saba is still pulling 15k easily
>>105121589Bot-o-live. We've all seen the charts, don't be a nigger.
>>105121861Explain the attendence at real life events?Robots?Nobody else can even get close to a crowd this massive.
>>105121829>Saba is pulling 15k easily: >>105121524No she ain't
>>105121891ok anon, now show the american crowds since we're talking about americans and not the forever single virgin japan society.
>>105121891also, thats 12-15k people max. congrats, that's one saba stream.
>>105121967All of them robots? Right?
>>105111732Yeah Council didn't do as well as expected.
>>105121891>>105121990Cover has thousands of wota robots they bring out for big events like these
>>105121990>SAAAR PLEASE DO NOT REDEEM!!!
>>105122023They might as well be robots
>>105121983>>105122065The best thing about Sabafags is that they're absolutely batshit insane and you don't have to debate them because they make their side look bad just by existing.
>>105122118>no argument>calls me schizoevery time. no wonder this place is dead.
>>105122010remind me who else in advent except for the channel owned by 2 individuals reached 1 million while having the luxury of Youtube not fucking them over since the beginning
>>105123146eh, Nerissa and biboo are almost there. Shiori seems to be taking the Fauna route where her fans are very outside of the holobox but very dedicated to her specifically
>>105123241cool, now try having Youtube unsubscribing 100k subscribers from each of them and see how it looks
>>105124085Anon I don't even know what you're trying to argue here. All of the holo girls had to deal with culls.
>>105105482FWMC are the top merch movers in EN why is this a surprise? Their nendos will sell more than all the Promise ones combined
>>105124115nta but advent didn't have to deal with culls that that level iircnerissa and biboo still have a ways to go until 1m. they won't beat the time mumei took to get there but they could possibly beat kronii.justice is a lost cause, none of them will be close for years
