Anyone remember when people called Gigi the runt of her gen? Ever since EnReco she has gotten the attention she deserves. Also her 3D debut is also the most watched.
>>105230574well she was a runt, thats a factimpressive how she managed to pull through though
>>105230574Raora has always been the real runt of justice, she had the biggest active fanbase by far pre holo and still only barely beat ccgg in subs.
>>105231436Raora isn’t just the runt of Justice, she’s the runt of the entire En branch
>>105230574She was just a slow burn that's all, since her real strength is in her social interactions which needed time to be recognized.
>>105231633True that
>>105231633Found the novelite
>>105232300Shiori has a year at most tell she is the bottom of EN
>>105231436So you're saying she's a "runt" just because she cannot beat 2 people summed together in subs?When she's the second with the most subs in Justice?What's even your argument?
>>105232300Shiori has higher ccv, superchats and merch sales than Raora
>>105230574When you know they let Merry write Raora's episode but you can't prove it
>>105232594Raora’s hologra was actually funny, Merry could never
>>105232653It was uneventful and completely detached from hologra mythos
>>105232581prove that.
>>105232694Still way better than everything that fag has written
>>105230574Anyone remember when I called you brown?
>>105230574ERB absolutely mogged! you love to see it
>>105232794That's subjective and a holy low bar but sure I'll give you that
>>105232873The point was the songs, and they were all uploaded as individual videos.Considering that her numbers are very good.
>>105232873>>105233072>Their 3D was 100k apart in views but they have the same amount of likesCan someone explain that?
>>105232544Esl kun, I said that she had a much bigger fanbase prior to hololive than either cc or gg and yet she barely has more subs than them in holo. 80% of her subs are from her pl if you take them away she's barely a 100k sub holo, meanwhile CC and GG were literal nobodies prior to holo.
>holo vs holo >numberfagging Shit thread.
>>105233287Im just pointing out that ccgg were never the runts that veetee says they were.
>>105233274She has 111k more than CC and 58k more than GG and yet you think this is "barely" just because you made up statistics about how many subs where from her PL?The argument is getting dumber and dumber.
>>105233227some people came back to rewatch it
>>105230574Ironic since her hologra was objectively the worst
>>105230574CC is the real runt of Justice
>>105233274>80% of her subs are from her plThat’s not how it works, most of her current fans don’t even know who she was
>>105233514Highest average CCV in justice, and among the highest in the branch. I don't think so.
>>105233436Her PL was fucking tiny, too. Her actual vtuber PL was effectively an unknown with some decently popular covers. The group itself was the one that exploded.
Well, she is. She's only a good watch in events for the hahas because those are not so frequent and in collabs. But watching her outside of that sucks, and you could literally suffer brain damage from watching all her regular streams
subs don't mean shit in 2025. you need something else to be obsessed with
>>105233436111k dead subs means nothing retard.
>>105233515lmao her chat is literally the same people as when she was yuuneehoe
Cecilia is the real runt.
>>105234919She was mid 3view when she was indie, now she’s a low-mid 4view. Her most active fans may be the same but most of her audience is new
>>105234028>160k more follows on her pl than cc and 150k more than GGokay sister spit your lies queen
>>105230574>include males>get more viewsCC and RR, take notes
>>105235182Yes anon, we know holo has like 2k orbiters who don't donate or anything but will watch every stream just because of branding, she still had a much larger fanbase than the other 2 and most of them transfered over and yet she still gets mugged by them daily, she's the runt.
>>105235289But I’m not contesting that. You said most of her current fans came from her pl which isn’t true
>>105235231>GG's males are just gender bent myth and promise>Erb literally sucks every man's cock who talks to her and sells her ass on the street corner of westborough street>these are the same thingGod anon you're retarded.
>>105235333I said 80% of her past life came over to holo which is true.
>>105235207Ah, I was mixing it up with Raora, my bad. Carry on.
>>105235383No. You said > 80% of her subs are from her pl if you take them away she's barely a 100k sub holowhich is completely false
>>105235356>GG included a flesh male in her 3D debut>ERB included HolostarsEN in her 3D debut>GG and ERB get more views than CC and RRretard
>>105230574Nah no one called Gigi the runt when ERB was the stan spamming in the homos chat
>>105236548Nobody called her that because it didn't fit their narrative.
>>105235478>esl can't readsome how that's my fault.
>>105235506kys retard stop defending Whoerb
>>105241003you're mad cause you know it's true kek
>>105234128>you could literally suffer brain damage from watching all her regular streamsbut that's exactly what I want...
>>105235506Why do you think that it is males that make the difference and not, for example, Nerissa? Because you are obsessed with cocks faggot?
>>105241246I hate all of them besides GG who is like actually a massive fujo 2D only fag so why would I be mad?
>>105230574Physically she is a runt
>>105234892>t-they don't count!!
>>105241850Nerissa was in every single 3D debut what are you even talking about. In ERB she wasn't really there, but just her model and yet ERB had more views than CC and Raora.
>>105230574im not a justice fan in general but i Gigi is the most entertaining one of them, you decide if this is good or grim
>>105230574Can't you just discuss this stuff in /#/? No need to make a separate thread about it.
>>105233274That logic would only work on the first few months. We're already a year in, and Raora is pulling far ahead.
The only runt I see is Liz.She has EVERYTHING. She has the voice, she has the BEST model in Justice by a landslide, she is the literal leader of her gen in the lore, too.Yet she's underperforming because of her insistence to fit Homos into everything she does.
>>105235506That male was a man dressed up like a homeless wizard, a literal joke character on par with putting a Teletubby in. It's not even comparable to Liz blowing all of Holostars, especially if you knew that Wizard Oji-chan was hired off of a portfolio - he was literally someone Gigi didn't even have in peripheral vision when the agency recommended him alongside other portfolios.Also ERB getting views isn't contested. ERB trolling herself and her whole career by letting Holostars use her as a stepstool is contested. She could be so much more successful and she's bottlenecking her own growth.
>>105251290The runt in terms of what?She's number 1 in terms of subs, 2nd highest in terms of views >>105230574
>>105251290Obsessed with males spreading disinformation in this thread
>>105251290I love this narrative that she spends all this time with the homos, when in reality she does almost nothing with them. She's spent like twice as much time with her twitch VRC RP group in 3 months (2 of which were part of the JP arc and the concert travelling) as she has with the homos in a little over a year. The real crime is management letting her stream schedules get so bad.
>>105252165You're talking like you know her contract, and how much she's working for the company.Just stop pretending her management is a problem if we don't know what she is doing and what she's hired for and how.
>>105230574the ERB botting from that one seething guy has slowed down
Gigi is a rising star and underatted but stop number fagging go back to your contaiment, you're smelly>>>/vt/numbersI like all of JUSTICE
>>105252415Based Justchad
>>105252316Over the last month or so she streamed for about 42~ hours or so, most of that was on twitch or members. I've got nothing against the twitch content, I've been enjoying her VRC RP but it's not reaching anyone on twitch and the VOD channel isn't doing much either. She needs to have some kind of YT streams to promote this content because thats where most of her viewerbase is. If you're a YT ERB fan, disregarding members, you've had 4 streams in September. This is something where a manager should be getting involved instead of just letting her drown her channel. Don't get it twisted she's doing fine, more covers or some originals would be nice but that's a different can of worms, in this case her management is letting her down.
>>105253085Your just making up problems that aren't there.if there was some problem with managements they would get some solution, a company doesn't want to waste money and time.It doesn't matter whatever you want to point out, unless you're her fan and you don't really like her streaming time being so low, that's ok, it's your feeling, you like her and you want more. But pretending to know if her manager is working well or not is wrong.
>>105253186Her content output is fine, her managers are objectively letting her down with advising her on how to actually promote it which is apart of their job.
>>105253531>her managers are objectively letting her down with advising her on how to actually promote it which is apart of their job.No because you don't know her contract and you don't know what she is really doing lmaoLike look at her, she's just 1 year in hololive and she will sing in the Ironmouse's Concert. She even sung with Mint in her Re-Debut, and it was just a few of months after her debut.
>>105230574Kinda impressive honestly, I expected Liz would be the one getting more views from 3D and Hologra, since I'm pretty sure she has the most JP mindshare among Justice.
>>105233941Useless metric otomofaggot
>>105235231>>105235506Imagine getting mad at wizard oji-chan lmao you're pathetic, faggot
who cares about hologra lmao more like hololame
>>105230574Not I
>>105234128>Ehehehe~>Bwain Damage
>>105251332The male was a straight adult male in the same room as her.
>>105230574Not really
