>>105231433
doing what?

>>105231433
>Kson
Not great, I feel like people lost interest when she basically just became a fleshies that sometimes gets clipped in her Vtuber model
>Dooby
About the same as before I'd argue, not great, but not bad, she would have gone back to hololive by now if she were having trouble keeping afloat
>Nimi
Honestly not very good compared to her first few months as an indie, her sub growth completely stopped and suffers massively during overlap from Hololive
>Saba
Probably the best out of the 4 right now, she hasn't gotten into any drama post-graduation other than the usual retards screeching at lolis and her viewership seems to be about the same as before
The one issue all 4 share except for maybe Kson is that they lost a huge amount of Collab partners
That said, mood-wise? They all seem about the same as before, Saba's probably improved s lot in general actually

>>105231433
I only watch Saba of the 4. She's doing completely fine. Kinda lacking on collab partners, but that's not something I particularly care about. She'll branch out if she wants to.

>>105231532
>>105231433
Samefag.

>>105231532
>Honestly not very good compared to her first few months as an indie
y tho

her content is pretty consistent in volume and style.

>>105231433
Dooby isn't doing too good, she's only streamed like twice since end of August. Meanwhile Saba is doing great, it's like have 2020/2021 Gura back and shows that it was really just Cover's bullshit that was making her not want to stream.

>>105231433
The numbers of the former ENs are not bad and they have proven to be resilient. Their unity and friendship is completely shattered though. It's kind of understandable because Dooby and Saba are very shy and Nimi can't keep female friends.

>>105232411
>Their unity and friendship is completely shattered though.
Proofs?

>>105231433
kson did very little with her creative freedom that anyone would describe as great. She had some awful collabs with awful people, nowadays she's half flesh half vtuber and kinda clinging onto the relevancy she once had

dooby is just like how she used to be, complete with her getting bored of anything she does once and then wanting to do something else, or just going into potato mode problems, very inconsistent but fans are used to it

nimi is still how she used to be except for the big fucking laundry nuke that eradicated a number of fans who are not ok with that at all for sure, she's starting to become spottier now and it sure won't get better once she pops out a kid

saba is doing more than she did in recent times as the shark at least, she's doing alright and staying in her lane without reaching out much, which people probably wouldn't want anyway. Of course her debut month consistency isn't sticking, but it's still better than before

>>105231433
Nimi and Saba are doing fine Nimi lost a lot of momentum from her lore drop but shes doing fine all things considered. Dooby needs to find her streamer fire again and Kson is forever wrong and will have to live with that shame

i will never forgive that retarded niggerfaggot envtubersooc for convincing every teenage ESL retard on this board that kson does majority flesh streams

>>105232892
She does a lot of them to be fair

>>105232902
by streamed hours it's like less than 10% because they're always shorter than her vtuber streams
however, the average ESL /#/turdie doesn't watch streams and only looks at clips and xitter

>>105232427
When was their last collab?

>>105232709
Accurate assessment

>>105233058
Inconclusive.

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>>105231433
Kson's fans, rooted in her original brand, didn't fully transition to her new fleshie content. Focusing on JP keeps it that way.
Dooby needs to resolve personal issues before moving forward; a dysfunctional family complicates things.
Nimi and Saba are thriving, even if their numbers don't match past peaks. Among indies, they're dominating and just beginning to shine.
Nimi's persistence will build her loyal fanbase as before, and her straightforward approach will prove wise long-term.
Saba remains the Queen. The debut buff fade is normal, but her ability to draw new viewers surpasses others. Her intentional gatekeeping at debut fosters a uniquely loyal fanbase unmatched in EN.
Those two are just getting started.

>>105233281
>Her intentional gatekeeping at debut
But she compromised on the loli thing almost right away

>>105233463
She's consistently pragmatic and insightful, understanding and respecting boundaries rather than sacrificing herself for ideals.
Her fans understand, and only anons here complain that she isn't wrecking her career over it.

>>105231433
Roa>all four combined

>>105231658
LLD obviously

>>105233058
Would you mind telling me the time gap between Selen and Mumei's last collab and Doki recovering at Mumei's place?
After all, such a long gap means they couldn't possibly have been friends.

>>105234096
Are you for real? Selen and mumei were blocked by corpos and Mumei is retired. Dooby, Nimi and Saba are all indies. Search a better example.

>>105233281
>Her intentional gatekeeping at debut fosters a uniquely loyal fanbase unmatched in EN.
I don't think I agree with this. Saba really didn't do any sort of gatekeeping, or at least not intentionally. I'd argue the biggest "gatekeeping" she's done was the large breaks between streams. Long-time chumbuds would know and understand, but it would tend to drive off tourists or, god forbid, people who didn't even hear of or know she was in Hololive.
>>105234327
Selen and Mumei were not blocked entirely considering they DID collab.
Fine. Mint Fantome and Phoebe. As far as most people are concerned, Phoebe appeared "out of nowhere" at her 3D concert, with that being her first on screen appearance alongside Mint.
Or how about Juna and Doki? Juna appeared for a bit at Wrestletuber, but not in an especially important role, and suddenly she was joining in at the same 3D concert.
I have more examples if you'd like.

>>105231433
>How are the ex-Holos doing?
bad

>>105231658
It's why I said compared to her first few months.
She's still doing decently well, but it's pretty clear her growth has completely stagnated and in some areas actually reclined.

>>105234687
>She's still doing decently well, but it's pretty clear her growth has completely stagnated and in some areas actually reclined.
That's just because she's been around a while now.
You could apply this to anybody barring maybe Mint or Doki, whose fans are so incredibly dedicated that they transferred over roughly 1:1.

>>105231658
That's why she's taking a week break after streaming every 2 weeks, right?

>>105234853
NTA but she IS being consistent about it.
If you stream once a month, that's still a form of consistency.

>>105234730
Then explain how her growth pre-LLD was ~4k per week just before the drop and how it hasn't breached >1k in a week a single time after the LLD. You can act oblivious to the most obvious, objective figures, but it isn't helping much in pushing your whiteknight agenda to others

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Dooby only streams once in a blue moon, and it's often slop like CS:GO. She's also been too shy to reach out to people in the indie scene and doesn't partake in a lot of collabs or events as a result (besides Henya).

>>105235169
Anon her viewership was unaffected up until the cull, and then spiked back up after it was mostly mitigated.
You're really going to need to do better, nimischizo.

>>105235197
>often
Nothing Dooby does is "often".

>>105233281
>Dooby needs to resolve personal issues before moving forward; a dysfunctional family complicates things.
She moved out and even fixed her internet. Her issues are either mental or Nimi-tier but unannounced.

>>105231658
You fucking know why you disingenuous cunt

>>105231433
Kson=washed
Dooby=washed
Nimi=whore
Saba=fish love

>>105235255
The good ol' cull cope. Please explain to me, oh wise man. How come Nimi get the same amount of total views per month as Shiori? If she was still popular, how come her channel statistics are doing worse than the objective runt of HololiveEN?

>>105235501
/thread

>>105231433
>Kson
Showing off her ass and feet on camera, not even a vtuber anymore
>dooby
doesn't stream
>nimi
married girl, doesn't stream as much
>saba
doesn't stream, but she invented not streaming because she didn't stream even during the first time she became popular by herself

Basically, only kson streams but she just shows her body so you jerk off to her and the rest don't stream.

>>105235505
Because... she's not in HoloEN?
Anon, are you okay?

>>105235556
The entire argument was that all her previous fans already follow her as Nimi, hence why she stagnated in subscribers and there not being anything wrong. If that was the case, which in theory could be if you look at Mint and Dooby's viewership before and after graduation, she would be having similar viewership numbers. Instead, she has less than half of what she was getting during her Hololive career

>>105231433
>Sana
Seemingly done well in artist world and still communicates with some holos
>Dooby
permanently living the poorfag life style and eating bread

I don't watch the ex JPs but it seems like Sakuna is the big winner there
>Nimi
actually seems to take streaming as a job and streams the most of the exs
>Saba
probably good as shes keeping more of her revenue now
>Shachi
living life whale watching?

>>105235783
She was gaining subs fairly quickly and then a certain something happened and the count hit a brick wall.
I think hew view numbers took a downturn too, but I didn't really check.

>>105235783
Because it's not, anon. That was never an argument. What are you talking about?
She's not in HoloEN. She's not being advertised 24/7 by a company and she's not making any efforts to branch out or replace natural fall off.
Hell, look at the views of the past couple streams and you'll see it's in the exact same range that it was right before the marriage announcement.

>>105236035
>Hell, look at the views of the past couple streams and you'll see it's in the exact same range that it was right before the marriage announcement.

She literally has not gotten a single stream above 100k views in 20 streams. Also, comparing games like Megabonk, Elden Ring DLC part 1, a gimmick stream, and No I'm Not Human with unknown games is bullshit and you know that

>>105231433
kson is banging women left and right so good for her

>>105236216
Anon, the last 100k view stream was RE6 with Mint (their first solo collab on the channel). Her numbers have been winding down since long before that.

>>105231532
For someone who once pulled 400k CCV at graduation, watching her flop now is almost comical. Nimi and Dooby are nothing but Saba’s sidekicks, yet her fans act like leaving the corpo made her better.

>>105235895
>permanently living the poorfag life style and eating bread
How does this even happen?

>>105231433
kson forgotten since she joined black company.
The other 3 are doing fine, although dooby shot herself by being mostly on twitch when her fans were on youtube.
Also all of them massively suffer from lack of group collab opportunities.

Saba is the only one who's managed to stay relevant. Kson fell off not even a year after leaving Hololive, Dooby is even lazier than Saba somehow and still insists on collabing with people that bring her down, Nimi whore doesn't need any explaining, meanwhile Saba has basically stayed the same except she streams more than once a month now

>>105237198
>Saying they suffer from missed collabs is piss poor bullshit.