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Time to save Gotham from criminals!

When I see Piller,
I think fill 'er!

Making love to Pillow and getting her pregnant. Watching her baby bump grow bigger and bigger. Rubbing oil and lotion over her tummy so she doesn’t get stretch marks

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Cute thumbnail art

I keep telling Pillow I’ll be brave while she’s gone... but I’m gonna miss her so much

It's time for piwwos to be the clingy menhera ones.

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piwwos when is she coming back I've been out of the loop

>>105252310
Her last stream is on Thursday and she's back on Wednesday.

Is she travelling alone? If so, how is she doing that if she can barely put the trash out? Or is that just kayfabe and she’s more capable irl than she lets on?

>>105252371
She travelled alone for the first vlog. She's going with a VTuber friend this time.

>>105252413
Isn’t she travelling on her own again to meet the other vtuber? Did she actually say she was travelling (with) the vtuber for the vlog? You probably know deep-down why I’m asking these questions. I just want to make sure I’m not secretly getting burned again for Pillow travelling on her own seems like it would be overwhelming based on how she’s described herself, always having Olive with her and helping her out with basic things. Some things about Pillow don’t add up and it sets off my paranoid schizo neurons.

>>105252784
>Isn’t she travelling on her own again to meet the other vtuber? Did she actually say she was travelling (with) the vtuber for the vlog?
No I think you're right, she's travelling alone and meeting the other person there.
>You probably know deep-down why I’m asking these questions.
I know you're a schizo trying to stir things up. She's done a whole trip on her own before, so this isn't uncharted territory for her. Go away.

>>105252862
I’m not trying to stir things up, I literally admit I’m a paranoid piwwo with this kind of stuff. I have nowhere else to vent my mixed feelings on this vlog. It’s not wrong to feel a bit weird about someone doing something so big and out of character when they’ve portrayed themselves for years as anxiety-ridden and incapable of many things. This is the kind of thing a partner would secretly help out with to ensure they’re safe. Of course she genuinely might just be doing it alone and is terrified but wants to challenge herself, but it’s also not far fetched to assume she might actually not be entirely alone and is keeping that secret from us for obvious reasons, and may have hidden that person in the previous aquarium vlog.

>>105252862
She just doesn’t have a car so it’s not convenient for her to go places most of the time, she’s totally fine taking a bus or Uber to get around. I swear Piwwos infantilize her too much, I tease her for being a girlfailure and am glad Olive is around to help, but she’s also fully fine to take care of herself.

>>105252946
She's a grown woman. I'm a recluse too but I've travelled alone (on public transport because I can't drive either) several times. It's not that difficult.

Everything she says and does points to her being single. You're working yourself up over nothing and propagating a baseless rumour about her. I'm not even one of the really clingy piwwos who'd be devastated if it was true; you're just really pissing me off with how completely out-of-nowhere your schizo freak-out is.

>>105252967
>I swear Piwwos infantilize her too much
That’s unfair for she infantilizes herself, just read through her twitter alt. You can’t pin that on me/us. It’s hard to tell what’s kayfabe and what’s not. That’s what makes me a little distrusting about this whole trip. Even if she is travelling alone, are you piwwows not worried about her safety? We know she’s tiny and scared of stuff like this. Alone or not, it makes me uncomfortable. I won’t post anymore about it because it will just ruin the rest of the thread but I needed to vent and there’s nothing I can do about any of it anyway.

>>105252946
“She’s traveling a moderate distance, clearly she’s being driven by her secret boyfriend.” No Piwwo, she’s probably going to walk over to a bus station and ride for a few hours over to her friend, where they will then head to the charity’s HQ. Don’t forget that she’s a fully functional adult, she’ll be okay.

I do anticipate some nervousness and some worry on her part, but it’s a lot better for her to give her “You’re a big girl, don’t worry you’ve got this” than to act like she’s 11 years old.

>>105253184
This trip is to the zoo, not the animal sanctuary.

>>105253224
Oh yeah I got it mixed up with the other vlog. Which actually makes my point stand more, since she’s probably not traveling that far. Likely she’s not specifying how far she’s going cuz she doesn’t wanna dox herself much.

I’m guessing she lives in California and is from Texas?

>>105253082
Don’t forget that she carries a knife everywhere she goes. She’s tiny and fragile, but she was raised by a single mother in Texas, I am certain she knows how to not get into trouble. Also I’d estimate a probably 30% chance she has a gun, cuz she knows how to use one, has indicated she likes them, and it would just be a wise choice to have one since it’s just her and her other equally frail roommate living together. Considering the crashouts some Piwwos have had, if I were close to her, I’d be telling her to stay packing heat just in case some schitzo tracks her down. Of course, she’d never talk about it cuz Piwwos already baby her about a knife, she’d never hear the end of it if we heard about her Glock.

>>105253330
It’s really not worth speculating, she’s good about keeping that shit locked down, and doesn’t divulge anything that could be used to to dox her, she’s a smart girl.

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here we go again. it's schizo show.

>>105253474
I don't understand why they're like this

>>105253549
they don't have hobbies. that's why they're like this. it's better to ignore these schizos. you're just wasting your time with them.

>>105253694
Well I never reply to them so I'm good there.
But yea they need something else to do.

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Worse than secret boyfriend I'm now more worried about her travelling in modern America. Hope she is armed.

>>105253694
Fuck off I’ve been ITT for months. If Pillow doesn’t want me questioning her actions, she needs to be more consistent with her behavior and make it clear what she is actually capable of and what’s just kayfabe for the character. Don’t act all needy and helpless if you’re actually completely fine irl. It’s like watching an anime for years and getting some random episode thrown in where the characters are completely different and the fanbase shouts at you just because you’re questioning it thinking wtf?

>>105253781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gyc0DJnzxI

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>>105253781
You're really testing me. Pillow doesn't need to do anything for you. She's nervous about doing stuff on her own but she's also shown herself to be a capable adult who has the willpower to push herself. Nobody else finds this difficult to understand. And you couldn't just be a schizo about this to yourself; you decided to come here and accuse her of being a liar as well. I hope she doesn't find out that just going on a trip makes piwwos react like this, or she'll never want to do it again. You said you'd stop posting.

I dread to think what the guys who are this paranoid and distrusting of Pillow would be like as her actual boyfriend. Thank God that will never happen.

>>105253970
From now on, whenever I see or hear her make a point how helpless she is in future streams or tweets, or a piwwo starts worrying about her over something a typical adult would just deal with, the kind of adult who can travel a long distance out of nowhere just fine like it’s an everyday thing for them, I’ll remind you what you’re all telling me; she’s a grown woman so just stop worrying and infantilizing her. It’s rude and you’re being schizo over nothing. That’s fair, right?

>>105253970
There’s also a vast difference between her being menhera and clingy, frequently anxious about being lonely and unloved, vs being completely agoraphobic and incapable of simple adult tasks. Like yeah, she’s an introvert that gets nervous going out, so she prefers not to, doesn’t mean she is incapable of doing stuff. I’m sure she’s gonna be nervous and spamming her alt account with how much anxiety she has the night before she goes, but she’ll also do it and be fine, cuz she’s a big girl.

>>105254005
Big reason I work really hard to maintain a good attitude and respectful mindset about her. It’s never gonna happen, but if the day ever comes where she takes an interest in me, I can be sure that I’d be the man she deserves.

>>105254083
She never said it was just fine, she’s nervous and doesn’t like missing the Piwwos for that long, but she wants to make the vlog so she’ll do it. What’s so hard to understand about that? She’s not helpless and she’s never said that. Actually I distinctly remember her correcting chat last time that they said Olive takes care of her, since she makes a point about how she takes care of herself and they both pitch in on everything.

>>105254083
I don't care what you do. You're clearly an unstable person who planted the idea of a secret boyfriend in this thread for no reason other than to get other people to schizo-out with you, not caring about how it would make Pillow feel or how it could effect her to have that kind of rumour circulating. Obviously you didn't post it so we could talk you out of it, because you're arguing with everyone who's telling you you're being ridiculous. Now go away.

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Please stop infantilizing her you schizo!

>>105254178
Piwwos, you don’t have to worry about a secret boyfriend. Pillow would be very, very sad to hear anyone worrying about that sort of thing. She’s not that type of girl, it wouldn’t be feasible for her to maintain since she is so open about what she has going on basically 24/7, and it wouldn’t be a wise thing for her to have since it’s an active liability for her career. She’s happy with the Piwwos, as far as she is concerned, the Piwwos are just a big collective boyfriend/husband for her

>>105254261
Yeah, that’s her having bad health from living like a NEET, doesn’t mean she’s incapable of taking an Uber.

>>105254285
You don't need to tell me that; tell the guy who's ruining the thread.

>>105254317
We should simply kill the non-Piwwo…

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>less than a week ago
Don’t worry piwwows, a long scary trip is completely in-character for her.

>>105254399
The way she typed that out is funny it's so robotic almost like it's a job lol

>>105254261
giving pillow daily cardio workouts to improve her long term stamina and health!

https://x.com/i/spaces/1zqJVdkDqnPKB
Piller space

>>105254483
I’ll talk her into this, we need her alive and healthy.

>>105255265
thanks olive. make sure she is sweating and panting, or it doesn't count.

Spending five dirty, absolutely filthy pet-play-sex-filled days at a fancy resort with my manipulatively child-like ASMRtist girlfriend behind the backs of her thousands of beta-cuck schizophrenic fans!

>>105256049
You’re truely foolish, I’m her secret boyfriend and I can assure you that we are keeping things purely platonic until she drops a surprise announcement for our marriage.

>>105256194
Ah the Nimi special

>>105256194
Sending this anon AI-generated replies on her phone has she bounces up and down, viciously milking my cock, as she howls like a wolf!

>>105256304
Well she's not gonna meow like a frog

Pillow is truly into pet play, isn’t she?

>>105256917
of course, she keeps looking up into my eyes and saying that dogs don't pull out before beaming a huge grin.

>>105256917
That or she's a bonified horse girl.

Piwwos…

>>105259229
What's wrong?

>>105259465
You've been blessed

I like to make clips of the times when Pillow responds to my chats. Though, the best ones are when she says something that indicates she doesn't just know me as a regular chatter, but knows me deeper than that. She stalks my twitter a lot, so it happens a bit.

>>105259552
I feel bad because she'll TP to me sometimes but I'm never doing anything interesting and I don't know what to say or do. She's such a sweetheart trying to make everyone feel included though.

>>105259465
Neat I got a headpat from one of the mods the other day.
Scared the piss out of me because I was just chilling on my cow breeding island.

>>105259701
>I don't know what to say or do.
Well saying hello would be a good start, piwwo.

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Pillow cute!

>>105259701
Show her what you're doing, she IS interested. Y'all forget that she genuinely does care about alll the little things, she's a busy girl, but she doesn't consider herself any superior to any Piwwo. In the same way that she shares every litttle thing she does with us, she cares about every little thing she sees about us too.

Has no one taken a picture of pillows standee at the cafe yet?

I'm trying to make a habit of posting about each stream once I've had a chance to watch it, just sharing what I liked about it. It's pretty much the bare minimum I could be doing for her, but I hope she appreciates it.

>>105265172
You're doing more than me piwwo.

Stream in 4 mins piwwos are you excited?

>>105248250
This game was such a shame, it was announced and had so much promised. Then the dev started putting in random stuff most didnt want, he seemed to kind of be bullied into it b some of the community. And then further development was cancelled.

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You already know I dressed up for the stream

>>105268184
They don't make developers with spines anymore

>>105268249
Looking dapper as usual

>>105268252
Ok forget what i was saying, apparently he got married and just didnt wanna work on a horror game anymore

how long do you have to watch Pillowdear before you’re allowed to say you love Pillowdear???

>>105268652
I don't know, I'm gonna give it a while, I feel too new to say that to her.

Any other good adult daycare vtubers to watch while Pillow is away?

>>105269235
fuwamoco

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>>105269653
This one is a gorjus wapist...

>>105269235
i like daiya fortuna
shes sweet and has autistic interests like pillow

Would you let Pillow touch you if it made her feel better?

Pillow is so bratty sometimes

>>105269917
Of course she could do just about anything she wants to if it makes her feel better

>>105269996
I love her brattiness it's cute

>>105269917
Wouldn't you?
>>105269760
Fluffy temptress

Playing on the playground jungle gym with Pillow and our children.

Ah shit what did she do

She's so cute when she's pissing herself

>>105271305
That's kinda hot

Pillow is blasting hot piss right into her toilet right now, I'm so fucking jealous

>>105271705
Can confirm I'm the toilet

I always feel pretty good after a nice long piss

Great we're gonna die in the elevator

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Lock me up Pillow

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Every meal with Pillow is happy

>>105272286
Nice work

>>105272286
This is very cute. Good job, Piwwo!

I want to impregnate her, so bad

Pillow for god sake

Pillow is scaring me a bit

I hope Pillow paints her toenails and has a foot cam tomorrow

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Pillow just sneezed on me

I need to have gentle, loving, passionate sex with this girl so badly. I want to hold her and kiss her as I finish inside her

Did her stream shit the bed???

>>105273122
No she ended it on purpose to cut off the scene dramatically.

>>105273122
Anon... you need to wake up... you've been dreaming for too long....

>>105273186
Oh ok I thought youtube shit itself.
I had fun did everyone else have fun?

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>>105273209
I don't like waking up

>>105273288
Shit was very fun, Pillow is genuinely super impressive. The fucking animation at the start was high effort as shit just to be an opening stream animation, she'd been cooking for this particular stream for a while.

Very much makes sense how she spends like 9-10 hours every day working on shit, she's doing a lot better than most other chuubas cuz she works so hard.

>>105273480
I was blown away by the animation too.
Pillow works extremely hard and goes way above for us. She's such a great oshi, I feel so happy spending time with her.

I tried falling asleep with the pillow plush a couple nights ago but it's pretty tough and not very comfortable to cuddle up with.
Any other tips for inducing pillow dreams?

>>105274567
Have you tried her daki yet?

>>105275703
Yeah I used to sleep with it every night. It got too hot for that in the summer though. It didn't help my dreams at all ;(

A new Pillow waiting room just dropped! Get ready for her to paint your nails so that you, too, may be pretty and cute.

My hope of Pillow painting her toenails continues to be nothing more than a pipe dream

Two more dreams...

Listening to Pillow's ASMR while playing PiwwoCraft, just realized only 9 videos remain from before she started streaming

Missed another stream award

>>105281120
Most of her old stuff has been archived. You can search general keywords and find specific reuploads on Youtube pretty easily.
https://youtu.be/iFnt9xHgUiM (example)
https://archive.org/details/asmr-needy-vampire-noms-and-cuddles-1-hour-sleep-aid
https://archive.org/details/pillowdear-asmr-all-audios

Her unlisted videos aren't that hard to find either. You just have to look around.
https://youtu.be/HS-tvYNe2Sk

I hope she shows us what she's wearing in this vlog. I really want to see her cute outfits.

>>105284799
Oh, believe me, I know about all of that. I remember one anon a couple of threads back looking for one particular video and I had to go through all my websites to finally find it for him. I’m just a little sad to see so many of her old audios go. There’s something about seeing them right on her channel, original vote count and all, that can’t be replicated by a re-upload or archive. I get that its her channel and her choice and whatever, but I’m always sad to see more and more audios go when I was there for their release or premiere

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This is Pillow’s friend Alias on her rm account. Alias had wedding ring merch. This is who Pillow hangs out with. I’m sure Pillow is a nice girl who can be trusted :)

I know it’s bait by a shit-stirrer, but Pillow hangs out with literal whores (VAllure girls) without a problem. Pillow isn’t corruptible, she has too much self-respect and too much love for the Piwwos to ever cross that boundary. Pillow is capable of seeing other people for who they are deep down instead of just a surface level assumption, I think you should try to do that as well

>you can trust Pillow because even though one of her closest vtuber buddies turned out to be one of the biggest NTR-obsessed GFE ASMR whores, she’s also liked and respected by literal whore vtubers who only got the job because they have whore experience! Even more reason to trust her!
This is getting ridiculous. Enjoy the ‘solo’ travel vlog, piwwows.

You people aren’t worth arguing with, you’re not turning us against Pillow. Go back to your containment threads if you want to talk about actual whores

This guy played the innocent concerned piwwo yesterday, saying he didn't want to get "burned again", admitting he was a paranoid schizo and claiming he wasn't trying to stir things up after I immediately saw what he was doing and called him out. Now he's dropped the act entirely and is slandering Pillow on the basis of nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lQzTgjG_TQ&t=1932s
>I really like NTR
>so many of your favorite content creators are really into NTR
Damn I guess that piwwo that said Alias felt too fake to him was right. I hope she doesn't influence Pillow with her NTR fetish.

>>105286289
I did some digging into Alias a few nights ago and she’s genuinely disgusting, and that means a lot coming from a full on degenerate, horny poster. I can only hope Alias and other girls have enough sense to keep Pillow out of their whoredom and don’t try to drag her into it

>>105286289
Pillow taught her the ways. Alias was unfortunately too weak and dumb so she slipped up. Pillow has kept up the facade for years. Even when surrounded by red flags, piwwows are so trusting. It’s actually impressive.

>>105286393
You’re not even trying with this one

>>105286393
>Even when surrounded by red flags
I'd say her becoming roommates with Olive removed the only real red flag I had which is how she was managing to live by herself on such limited income. With that issue resolved I'd say she's among the most trustworthy GFE vtubers. That being said you should never trust any of these girls completely.

>>105286087
You see piwwo the problem is they're upset Pillow is actually a nice girl and isn't a whore.
So to help themselves cope they come here and attempt to troll us. While they could just simply leave their oshi and enjoy Pillow like us as well, but she's too good for them so they cope by trolling and being faggots.

>>105286527
She looks so beautiful even in cardboard form.

>>105286527
I really like the art style, she looks so soft and squishy

>>105286594
She spends most of her time sitting and lying down. She IS soft and squishy.

Mini golf with Pillow

>>105287010
That would be fun even though I suck at it

>>105285994
It’s also worth noting that she’s mentioned before that as much as she’s “friends” with all the vtubers, it’s not like they’re interacting all the time. The last stream was a good example, basically all her time is consumed by doing everything she needs to do all on her own. She makes all the art, she handles all the paperwork, she doesn’t have a ton of time left over to hangout with other girls.

>>105286465
Even that one was fair, she was dipping into her savings that entire time and basically gambling that she’d be able to increase how much she was making fast enough to not mess things up. She also lived in a shitty tiny studio in the middle of nowhere, so rent wasn’t crazy.

She's so cute and adorable and sweet. I just want to do fun things with her and make her happy.

>>105287932
Confuses the hell outta me how she has any antis. She’s never done anything wrong. I guess some people just get burned by their oshi being a whore and assume clearly every other girl must be one too.

>>105284815
100% chance of that. It's gonna be like the last one where she walks around with her phone recording, it'll be cute, but she does her best to not show off her body. The pumpkin carving stream was probably the most we'll ever see, and that's cuz she couldn't figure out how to do that stream without being visible a lot.

>>105288253
lol did you mean "0% chance" based on the rest of your post? Anyway, I know she won't do it, but it's nice to think about.

Who is she meeting?

Why doesnt fempiwwo like pillow's butthole?

>>105288376
I think it's a surprise, but the girl is gonna show up on the vlog.

>>105288376
I don't think we know yet.

>>105288376
Not shit stirring, I’m pretty sure it’s Alias. I remember pillow inviting her live on a stream a couple months ago.

>>105288996
This anon is a retard and unaware that alias was on barely a few weeks ago for the BFFE stream. There's no reason it would be alias vs the shitload of other girls that Pillow is friends with, you're just intentionally be retarded. Pillow has like a million vtuber friends because everyone loves her.

>>105289220
I’m hoping it’s not because Alias is in the middle of a huge drama shitstorm right now. Her secret whore behavior whilst selling wedding merch is just the cherry on top of what’s come out about her and a few others. It’s the last thing Pillow needs.

>>105289220
I don’t care enough to comb through her streams to find the clip for you. Pillow definitely invited Alias and one other girl. Raki maybe?
In any case it sounds like she’s only meeting up with one now so maybe Alias had to pull out to deal with whatever she’s on hiatus for.

>>105289479
Yeah, that'd make sense if she was planning it and asked Alias to go. Alias is currently on hiatus though, so it's probably gonna be Raki since they're close.

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>>105290455
She’s so amazing bros…

>>105290528
I want all the success in the world for her. I want to see more merch of her at conventions. I want her to have her own pop-up idol cafe. I want to see her on billboards and headlining virtual concerts. I know more success might mean less direct interaction with us, but she works so hard and deserves it all.

>>105290656
I shall simply have to build skills and abilities that allow me to stand by her side supporting her as an equal. She has a million fans, but I can be more.

>>105290998
You having a schizo delusion moment again?

>>105291136
Please don’t get him started, piwwo

>>105291518
Yeah I better not I've already seen enough of his posts before.

I'm going to pee in Pillow's butt

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>>105291708
But she poops from there

>>105292090
SHE DOESNT FUCKING POOP DONT LIE ABOUT HER

>>105292100
My apologies I tend to forget women don't fart or poop.

>>105288996
>>105289220
I’m not shit-stirring either, but Alias has been Pillow’s closest VTuber friend for a long time now and is actually Pillow’s first ever VTuber friend. These two are very close, but Pillow is likely unaware of the shit storm she’s caught in at the moment. Unless Alias does something very publicly to shit on GFE or does/says things that are incredibly hurtful to others, Pillow is unlikely to cut her off. I just want to say that Pillow has 100% cut off other VTuber that shit on “parasocial” behavior or GFE. And of course, Alias has other amounts. Pillow could always just say that she went with Haewon instead

>>105292621(me)
Alias has other accounts*
She’s just the most likely person at the moment, but we’ll just have to wait and see

>>105292621
>>105292662
I don’t think piwwows would worry too much about it, it’s everyone else, people who Alias has hurt. Potential future piwwows. You’ve seen how they are with that november schizo and her mom collabs, so any link to Alias when Pillow is also an ASMR vtuber who’s parasocial will just give them another angle to try and blacken her name

>>105292621
What shitstorm is she in.
She’s on hiatus to renegotiate her contract. Everyone knew she was a whore and did porn in the past.
You’re only finding out now because you’re a dirty catalogue nigger

>>105292621
The big angle the antis are gonna make, and have been making is "Pillow and Alias are friends, so clearly they're the same kind of people and think of their audience the same way" to smear Pillow. Meanwhile, you just need to have seen the Haewon birthday Pillow was attending an hour before the End Raid to see the difference between the two of them. All the girls were cracking dirty jokes and Pillow gets a little bit uncomfortable and goes quiet.

They're very different people, which is obvious any time that they're on screen together. Any time Pillow does a collab she has to muzzle Alias on squeezing the Piwwos, which is why she was so embarassed to be letting Alias go ahead with the squeezing during the BFFE event. Frankly, they're very different kinds of people that are only friends because they make similar youtube content and since Alias has a big platform it's just wise for Pillow to collab with her. If Pillow were to be compared really to anyone, there's actually no large vtubers in the space that are equally as parasocial yet wholesome. The closest I can think of are girls with sub 10k sub counts.

I do honestly hope that pillow sells wedding bands one day.
I would love to wear it everywhere and let everyone know I have the most wonderful and loving vtuber wife in the world.

>>105294849
As much as I would love wedding merch, I still get PTSD from the Rushia termination

>>105295003
I feel like Pillow cares about the Piwwos too genuinely for that kind of thing. She encourages parasocial relationship, but she also encourages it BECAUSE it's returned on her end. She wouldn't want anyone wearing a ring for her unless she was wearing a ring for the Piwwos. That's the difference between her and the parasocial grifter types.

Cute sleeves

>>105295726
What does this mean

>>105295821
Ignore people who spam your thread with irrelevant schizo nonsense.

Fuck off trashmeads

Pillow proudly showing you her freshly painted nails

>>105296027
Dammit I'm late thanks to work. At least Pillow is cute and makes me smile.

Killing people for Pillow :D

>>105297912
But I'm too pretty for prison

She very muchi hololive material. yagoo is going to get a hand in this girl

Man the baiters nowadays can't spell or punctuate at all.

Why is /pillow/ so inactive this week? Is everyone in her chat?

Is the ex-fandead here? Your Pillow got mentioned in the Miguel thread.

>>105299712
I just haven't had much to say. The yearn-posting inspiration hasn't been coming to me as frequently as it used to.

>>105299712
Probably, I was chatting in her stream a bit more than usual yesterday. I realized that role-playing with her isn't my forte.

>>105299712
It just seems less active now that the schizo wars have come to an end.
A few months ago our threads wouldn’t hit bump limit. I’m happy with where we’re at now.

>>105300024
The speed is comfy but it feels more somber and cold in here. Has felt like this for a few weeks now.

>>105299712
I left when the horni posting started to be frowned upon

>>105300162
Horny posting is never truly frowned upon

>>105299712
To be real, I'm too busy on Piwwocraft
It'll make sure to hornypost more

>>105300162
You got one guy’d

>>105299251
hes going to hold gun to her head? she seems to be doing just fine as an indie

The way she talked about someone holding her hand and painting her nails...

>>105300269
I love when she talks about romantic scenarios like that. There’s a clip channel on Twitter that posted a clip of her fantasizing about being cuddled and held while she’s the little spoon and it’s adorable

Pillow should squirt lotion on her hands during the handcam streams

>>105300312
Somebody post the clip

>>105300291
You're killing me.

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>>105300291
Pillow...

It really was too much for me to find out that she's a very physically affectionate person. My heart can't handle that information.

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>>105300291
The original yearn-poster

She's stalling ending stream to spend more time with piwwos again...

I love this dork.

>>105300880
You can’t fake that. She loves us so much…

I think I have a crush on Pillowdear

I like how whenever she says my username, she says it with a smile. I can literally hear it in her voice

I take comfort in knowing that Pillow is just as deprived of romantic physical affection as I am, and wants it just as I do.

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>>105300799
That asmr filled me with too many emotions

>>105301179
She's never said my name but whenever she reads me it feels nice.

It kills me to say this when I know it's not going to be me, but I hope that when this is over she finds someone who loves her, takes care of her and is affectionate towards her.

>immediately starts cuckposting after stream

>>105301631
I'll take good care of her, Piwwo.

>>105301752
Just don’t get caught in a shadow or reflection in the vlog.

>>105301677
I guess I should've said I hope she dies alone. Of course I want to be with her, but it's not going to be me, is it? It won't be you either. So what kind of life do you want for her?

Somebody noticed that the threads are dying because of the schizo wars being over and immediately decided to try and reignite them

>>105301917
Well, the threads are slower rather than dying

>>105301834
I don't want her to die alone, I'd much rather she gets to know me and slowly ratches the GFE down and establishes more boundaries with the Piwwos. I feel like it'd be very unkind to legitimately hope that she just dies alone, most Piwwos won't be dying alone. Think about it, even the most die-hard Piwwo is eventually going to get a gf and move on, they don't really have a choice.

>>105302018
I think Piwwos should take a vow of celibacy so they can always be with Pillow and make her happy

>>105302073
The sad reality is that a solid 80% of the die-hard Piwwos are gonna be hit with the "She just doesn't feel like the same person" in probably only a few years, because she legitimately won't be the same person. Real romantic love is a lot more solid than parasocial dependency.

>>105302107
:(

Hugging Pillow
Holding Pillow's hand
Kissing Pillow
Giving Pillow a shoulder massage
Giving Pillow a foot rub
Playing with Pillow's hair
Tracing shapes on Pillow's back
Painting Pillow's nails
Spooning with Pillow
Princess-carrying Pillow
Giving Pillow head pats
Tickling Pillow

>>105302184
Don’t worry, Pillow. It’s gonna be okay

Since she mentioned it I can't stop thinking about holding her perfect hands while I paint her nails whatever colours she wants. Her soft voice, her embarrassed giggles, her cute little noises...

I've been literally married before and anybody who thinks that the beautiful scenario of Pillow and piwwos being together isn't the only genuinely acceptable solution knows fucking nothing of love.
"no choice" pfft, your dependency on some retarded set of expectations for what needs to happen for something to count as love is YOUR debilitation, don't presume it to be anyone else's. Much less hers.
I love Pillow. Pillow loves us. There are no caveats. Keep your disingenuous brainworms to yourself.

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This is what happens when I forget to fight crime in Gotham

>>105303421
Imagine listening to a divorced guy about ANY of this shit. There has never been a single chuuba or even real life version of a woman that lived her life that way. It’s a lot kinder to Pillow to not have unreasonable expectations of her aging into her 40s pretending to pat you on the head while rubbing a mic with a rag, thinking about how she will never get to have kids.

>>105303494
Sorry Batwwo, I love Pillow very much, and I want her to be everyone’s favorite idol forever, but it’s unreasonable for any Piwwo to expect her to never be with anyone. Even if she has a relationship, he love for the Piwwos would never change.

> alias bait didn’t work
> return to evil cuck posting

>>105303602
I feel sorry for her being told that she is loved by somebody who thinks so little of her
Your obsession with not being able to see this relationship as genuine in and of itself and as is is poisonous to the very person you've constructed her to be in your head, which comically is at odds with her own words
You don't know how people work at all, retard. Your worldview has no basis except truisms that never actually hold up to reality on an individual basis. You're literally proud of being destructively ignorant while claiming some perverted sense of justice that you MADE UP IN YOUR HEAD.

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Piwwos need to do less thinking, just live in the moment and enjoy our time with Pillow.

>>105304104
I second this. Stop thinking so much about the future and have fun with pillow right now

>>105303883
Do I think she genuinely loves the Piwwos? Yes. Do I think she feels like the relationship works just great currently? Yes. I’m just pointing out it’s kinda batshit to expect her to genuinely allocate her entire lifetime to remaining single so she can be an idol wife for the Piwwos. We gotta enjoy it for what it is currently, but it’s major cope to think it’ll last forever.

There is a vast difference between her desire to always be there for the Piwwos, and to be a vtuber forever, vs maintaining a genuine parasocial relationship forever. She just a little bit ago people were posting how she has so many little fantasies about physical affection, how fucking sad is it to genuinely want her to never have that?

>>105304104
Sorry Piwwos, arguing is fun sometimes. I definitely want every Piwwo to enjoy the present, particularly in the face of a long, dark winter of no Pillow.

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>>105304104
She knew what the piwwos wanted see

I love Pillow and want to be her with her romantically, providing the physical affection that she herself has told us she wants. I don't care how that makes anyone feel and I'll keep posting about it whenever and however I like. I'll continue to appreciate what she does for us and respect her current wishes, but I'll never be ashamed of my ultimate fantasy of being her one and only.

>>105304373
As long as you do not schitzo out, respect her as a person, and take no for an answer, that's a perfectly fine aspiration to have.

I'm going to win, though.

>>105304215
don't you realize how you're forgetting the MUCH more common fantasizing and genuine affection and love she feels from the relationship as it stands?
Let me pose you a scenario; a pillow who gets that physical affection, but for obvious reasons loses all the romantic affection that is so much more varied, constant, and intense than just that facet. Picture a pillow who realizes that she was happier before. Picture that pillow realizing that now that shes made the choice she has, she will never, ever be able to get back what she had.
Pillows mentions of being physically affectionate have always been simply because she is affectionate in every single way. She is simply that - affectionate. You are suggesting that this one particular type of affection is something she would willingly trade in all of the other forms of affection she receives- kinds of affection an actual parter *could never duplicate in a million years*
For her sake, do not take a myopic mindset with regards to what makes her happy.
>There is a vast difference between her desire to always be there for the Piwwos, and to be a vtuber forever, vs maintaining a genuine parasocial relationship forever
No, there isn't, not for her. Again, this is her words.

>>105304503
don't forget not leaving and not to stop loving her if she says no either

>>105304744
That comes with the big caveat of being capable of accepting not having a solo relationship with her. Most dudes in that situation, if they decided to stick around, would basically be a snake in the grass sticking around hoping for an opportunity.

>>105304668
You're insane. If I was lucky enough to be in a position to choose between the impersonal, distant love of thousands of faceless fans and the personal, intimate love of one person, I'd obviously choose the latter, as would any sane person. I want it more than anything and there's no substitute. What's wrong with you?

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Remember Piwwos:
NO ANAL

AHEM
>>105302218

>>105304970
I mean, she consistently is choosing that every single day. I am certain she has one million Piwwos sending her marriage proposals and shit through literally any available method. She also does know lots of people and is a very cute and wonderful girl, so she definitely has opportunities. She chooses to stick with the Piwwos because she does genuinely love us, wants to support us. Also, I'm sure there's a big aspect where she's so busy as fuck that she wouldn't even have time for an actual relationship currently. She doesn't mention it much cuz she doesn't want Piwwos fussing over her, but as far as I can tell she works like 10-12 hours a day.

My big thing is that we should expect all of that to change one day. As she gets more popular, she'll not be able to have as close a connection to the Piwwos. The parasocial nature of the relationship means that schitzo Piwwos are going to continue crashing out, and thus over time she's going to continue needing to be less open with personal details to protect herself. Not to mention that as she gets older, the idea of marrying someone and having kids becomes a lot more real and tangible. Basically, as much as everyone wants to be the guy, you're mistreating her if your reaction to her creating boundaries and rolling back some of the GFE would be to be upset, instead of being understanding.

what are we doing?

>>105305349
stfu Olive. This isn't about you.

I don’t think pillow is even getting more popular though. Usually if someone is successful they have a lot of grays in their chat, but most of pillows viewers are regulars. She hasn’t been able to get new viewers

>>105304970
>I would
>everybody would because I would
>she would because I would
This is exactly why you will never, ever understand the person you claim. You never, ever listen to the parts you don't want to hear, when as a newfag you should be listening more and talking less by default.
She contradicts your assertions. She has done this continually. She has done this emphatically. She has done this for multiple times the duration you've known about her. You are the height of selfishness for superimposing your perceptions of what you want on a person that has never made any mention of those desires and instead contradicted your beliefs as a staple of her entire identity. I'm tired of you disrespecting the woman I love by pretending as if everything she's said for years, things she's been consistent about for years, amount of nothing. You claim to care about her, but you sure don't act like it. You care about some abstract bullshit divorced from the reality clearly failing as it fries to ram itself into your dense as fuck skull.

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don't mind me here, i just like reading.

>>105305370
See the issue is that based on your attitude, I can tell that your reaction to the day when she starts putting up some boundaries with Piwwos, you're gonna chimp out and call her an evil lying whore.

>>105305365
She gained a lot early on because she did a lot of collabs and sucked up a lot of parasocial viewers that were burned off from other chuubas, who now stick with her because she's perfect. Also currently she's not really doing much to optimize trying to get new people, she still welcomes new Piwwos, but shit like nail painting streams isn't exactly interesting to your average young man looking for a girl to call his internet wife. She's really comfortable right now, so she's not gonna do much to appeal to people, but her numbers are always going to go up over time, even if the rate isn't fast. Don't forget, she's at 150k in 2 years. Even if she's slow and takes another 3 years to hit 600k, that's still 4x the number of Piwwos.

>>105305267
Of course, she chooses the piwwos every day because we're her livelihood. I understand and respect that. But talking long-term, she's not going to want to do that forever, despite what she might say now. Whatever she decides to do, I'm sure that she'll handle it tactfully and sensitively.

>>105305370
You're boring me now and also very rude. She's told us she wants physical affection several times. She made a video about wishing we were "real".

>>105305492
Yes, he seems like a very angry and unstable person. I love Pillow and losing her would upset me, but I can't see myself behaving that way over her, primarily because she's a good person who I respect and don't want to hurt.

i think the yearnposters should kiss

>>105305688
Pillow does like BL

Let’s settle this with a vote. Do you think Pillow will always choose Piwwos? Or do you think she’ll drop everything one day to choose a single guy over everything she’s built up thus far?
Personally, I believe she’ll always pick and prioritize the Piwwos

>>105305492
Idiots like you who don't even know that she has cut off previous vtuber contacts for making posts on Twitter saying that parasocial relationships aren't real romantic relationships should keep their dunning-kruger effect in check.
Your perceptions of reality are wrong on their face, and your insistence on their correctness tilts them over from simply wrong to outright retarded.

>>105305656
>You're boring me now and also very rude. She's told us she wants physical affection several times. She made a video about wishing we were "real".
She's said that she would literally die without us, and yes I do mean that plural, much more than that. And it was never about it being her livelihood.

>>105305837
Note that I never said that. I think she's perfectly happy where she is right now, but it is not sustainable long term. Limiting yourself to loving your audience for a few years or a decade is one thing. Choosing to literally never kiss another person, have children, look into someone's eyes when you tell them you love them, for your entire life, is a totally different proposition.

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What are you guys schizoing out for?

>>105305973
I enjoy making people seethe.

>>105305763
There is no universe where Pillow would willfully break hundreds of years long faithful piwwos hearts that have been mutually in love with her for that long.
Even based on how much she cares alone, she wouldn't be able to bring herself to do it

I think it's safe to say that Piwwos have absolute, unwavering trust in Pillow because she's proven multiple times that our trust is not misplaced.

>>105305991
I can see that but could you do something constructive?

>>105306037
I'm gonna go kiss her

>>105306076
Thank you Olive can you give her a big hug and headpat for me too?

>>105305914
>She's said that she would literally die without us
Well, she wouldn't, would she? She'd just be sad. But she wouldn't be with a romantic partner who loves her and who she loves. She might look back on this period of her life and remember us fondly, but she could still be happy without us.
>And it was never about it being her livelihood.
It's not the only factor but it's definitely part of it.

>>105305947
How many times do you need to be told that pillow has said that she does not want kids before you stop being weird and talking about how she'll want them anyway
No, "that's how she feels now but it could change later" is not any kind of argument, it insane to pretend it is

>>105306101
I gotchu, big dog

>>105306180
Never met an early 20s woman before. They’re all juice up on anti-baby propaganda until they see all their friends having them, then the baby fever sets in and they start leg locking you. I’d know, Pillow just started last week.

Imagine making passionate love to Pillow, and she decides to leg-lock you right as you're cumming

I think having children is important and I'd be honest with Pillow about that, but we're both still young and certainly not ready for it. I'd stay with her even if she never wanted them.

oh it was a true dyed in the wool cuckposter after all, now I feel dumb
chao

Did you guys enjoy the nail painting stream earlier?
I'm amazed by Pillow's skills she really is talented when it comes to drawing and painting.

>>105306370
Yes it’s nice to talk with her. I like her voice

>>105306362
Let me clarify: I'm the romantic partner and you're the bitter schizo who gets left behind.

Does anybody else sometimes feel like Pillow is a bit childish? Either in her mannerisms, her voice, or her interests. I don't mind it at all, I love her for it. I'm just wondering if anybody else feels the same way

>>105306383
Her voice is very soothing to me almost therapeutic. It's nice and chill to chat with her.

>>105306370
Crafty streams and yapping streams are her best. I like sitting and talking with her. I don’t give a single shit about gameplay or whatever, I just want to sit talk about shit with her. Also, for any Piwwos who feel like they need to be constantly saying super thought-out shit, don’t forget that she does genuinely care about every little thing. She’s mentioned my favorite food before, 3 weeks after I mentioned it in chat, and she hadn’t even read it out.

>>105306430
Back of the line pal, I’m gonna marry her, but she’ll keep streaming and I’ll be in the background saying “Hi Chat!”

>>105306446
She is generally an autistic childish girlfailure, but she does also play it up on stream. She does it particularly hard during collabs and shit, cuz it’s her default “masking” that she uses to feel both comfortable and entertaining on stream.

>>105306446
Eh she just gives me high-school girlfriend vibes with how fun and free spirited she is, also a bit dorky but in a cute way.
>>105306471
I love those comfy streams they're perfect for winding down to.

>>105306370
Yes, I love relaxed chatty streams and seeing Pillow's nail art, which is really impressive.

>>105306446
Yes, it's one of her defining traits at this point. She definitely plays it up. I don't mind a bit of childishness, and hers is endearing rather than annoying. She's mature when it matters.

>>105306558
When she was doing that pokemon nail art that blew me away, that was a great stream.

>>105306639
I'm glad she posts close-up photos so we can appreciate all of the little details she puts in. I told her how good they look.

>>105306639
Nail art is great because it usually doesn’t have so many people. I feel kinda sad that I wasn’t around for the earliest days when her members streams had basically nobody.

Granted, I do notice that she takes care to not respond to the same people too much. She intentionally skips over a lot of stuff because she doesn’t want to favor any Piwwos too much… she still does smile when she says my name though, so I’m winning.

>>105306753
Same, for the amount of effort she puts in it definitely shows. It's nice to compliment her she deserves it.

>>105306844
I enjoy the slower chats too.
It's nice when she reads me I haven't sent her any superchats or anything though, I'm a bit too shy to do that.

>>105306899
Super chats seem to make her feel kinda awkward so I wouldbt recommend it anyways

>>105306943
Like in general or some odd ones?

>>105306899
Legitimately, she doesn’t give a single iota of a fuck about superchats. Her love is given freely, not bought.

>>105306975
She gets embarrassed and flustered by getting them. Pretty sure she’d turn them off permanently if she didn’t know how much Piwwos love being able to send them.

I swear I heard her say that she would like to turn them off but knows how much Piwwos like being able to send her a message. She appreciates the money deeply, but she’d much rather you spend time with her. She does tend to get flustered by them though

>>105306981
Dude calm down I'm not looking to send her stupid amounts or do it for attention or buying her love as you put it.
I just want to show a bit of appreciation every now and then with a superchat.
>>105307005
I see well I'll keep it loose and not put her on the spot or anything if I do send a superchat.

>>105307072
Alright thanks for the insight.

>>105307072
I may have dreamt this

I like using StreamElements since it's not as showy and you don't have to use your actual username. I don't like bringing a lot of attention to me but I want to support her.

>>105307713
It's a nice option to be anonymous.

Reminder that you are a feminized low 40 IQ beta cuck who gets dommed by the real gigachads who have 14 wives having hard sex with all of them with a massive hard cock inside their soft gentile pussies

>>105309108
It’s true…

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>>105309108
>gentile
It's going to be really awkward when it Pillow finally reveals she's Jewish

Never fucking EVER so much as think the idea of my wife being a filthy fucking kike

Pillow is an Aryan goddess never fucking put the words j*w and pillow in the same sentence or I will fucking find you and your mossad mangled asshole and ripe it in half

fucking children of yakub fagots always here to suck the lifeblood of the white race FUCK YOU KIKENIGGERFAGGOTS

Pillow would be very sad if she knew how hateful you are

We’ve reached the end of the thread where everything gets crazier than usual it seems

I wonder how Pillow would react to cuck posters who unironically want her to get a significant other on stream under the belief that it’s what’s best for her

I personally am ok with black peopl