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with a google dockey as sizeable as her tits
https://twitter.com/SinderVTuber/status/1975731690598490196
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hKiWSsmpc7halyfaHWMVavjSy9GGVXQD9qoAn-8OrJo/preview?tab=t.4vkr4scnu0
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>>105271192
Wow, no one cares
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time to watch the indies kill each other
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>>105271192
>1000 pages
I ain't reading all that shit.
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>>105271192
BASED BASED BASED DESTROY THE WHORE CLAN
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>>105271192
WHEN IS HER PORN DEBUT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT TO SEE THOSE TITS BOUNCING.
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>>105271386
>indies
This is just one tribe (whoreclan) the other indies will be fine
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>>105271192
I don't care anywhere near enough about Sinder to read 1000 fucking pages, I'm just continue not following her and not watching her (I was following her before this)
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>>105271192
>1k pages
she fucking knows I ain't reading through all that shit
I kneel
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>>105271683
most of it is just glazing about her boyfriend.
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I feel for her, this can't have been easy.
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>>105271192
well not reading that shit 1021 pages of crap
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>>105271192
>1000 pages
Nigga who the fuck do you think is reading that
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>>105271192

sorry, ive moved on and am now in a 1 sided relationship with nimi and her boyfriend. im not sitting in TWO cuck chairs.
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As someone said in the comments, she should go through this on stream (or at least the highlights/most important points) since most people aren't gonna read all this
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>>105271192
>I lied about firing red, by the way hes been my boyfriend since before I started streaming. Also I cheated on him lol
ok
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>>105271781
>i'm sorry for the things i've done wrong
atleast she admits it
NOW RELEASE THOSE GODAMN TITIESSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>105271784 (me)
but at least we know what she's been doing for the past what like 4 months or something since the dockeys.
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>>105271362
>>105271568
>>105271683
>>105271702
>>105271784
I fucking hate /vt/ so much, I guess I'll be spoonfeeding you illiterate niggers as I read through myself.
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>>105271880
kys sinder o sinder boyfriend
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>>105271880
DID SHE POST LINKS TO HER RAW TITS?
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>Red
>is blue
this should be illegal
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>>105271828
>Sinder anti can't even keep his lore straight
Nimi is getting married...
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>>105271937
still a boyfriend right now, cucko
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>>105271953
Fiancé is more than boyfriend, retard.
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>>105271192
>1k pages
Does she do it in hopes that her simps just think that if she wrote that much she's right and move on?
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Someone post an AI summary. It's probably going to be 80% wrong but this is literally why they exist.
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HOLY SHIT I LITERALLY JERKED OFF TO HER AN HOUR AGO LMAO
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>>105271974
theres no legal difference between a boyfriend and a fiance you nigger
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>>105271932
I hate this irrationally
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It's very telling how little attention span people have anymore.
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>>105271192
I don't care about Sinder, but I would love it if it causes the indie scene to mostly explode
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>>105271880
Don't abuse yourself, anon. Just feed it into an ai and get an executive summary or even a tweetsful. I cbf doing even that.
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>>105271932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D01NHPnLrVs
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so is she masturbating on stream or nah
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>>105271192
Did she spend the entire time writing this?
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>>105272021
>should I read two novels or the ramblings of a has been
easy choice
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>>105271994
>I need AI because I'm too weak of a pussy to use my own eyes and brain
lol faggot
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All I care about is if she posted anything to take down her other indie friends. If not, complete waste of time and a chance to do the right thing
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>>105272066
nah most of it is AI apology slop
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>>105272089
>oh boy what a great night its been! im going to spend 3 hours reading a 1000 page doc of some twitchwhore! success!!
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>>105272084
>novels bad
This truly is a low IQ seanigger board.
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>>105271994
Character Assassination: The author says they were misrepresented and that the accusations were based on falsehoods and assumptions, not reality.

Accusers Named: They specifically call out Nanoless, Shylily, and Silvervale for allegedly lying, manipulating public perception, and benefiting from the fallout.

Red’s Role: Red is mentioned as a co-author and key figure in the events, with both claiming to present the truth to the best of their knowledge.

Evidence & Structure: The document includes tabs for each person involved, with links to statements, evidence, and commentary. Readers are encouraged to go through it in order.

Personal Consequences: The author announces they are relinquishing their part ownership of Gamer Supps to protect the company from further harm, stating this decision was voluntary and made months prior.

Intentions: They emphasize transparency and accountability, acknowledging that some content may be damaging but insisting the truth must be told.
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>here is 1000 pages
>is actually 857 pages
She still can't stop lying
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>>105272143
retard.
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JAV debut when?
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>>105272144
Sorry anon, this is too many words for the brainrot teens ITT, I need you to condense it further to just "right" or "wrong" even though I will call any pyropup a cuck anyways lol
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The document starts with an excuse as to why her first attempt at an apology was shit, I know the rest is not worth my time just from that.
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[business here]
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Sinder is coming back
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>>105272144
so they're basically lying again.
what the fuck is actually wrong with those two.
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>>105272165
the page counters just stupid, i can view it on its own and its 1021 pages but it shrinks if i open copilot which causes the window to shrink, why that changes the page count i don't fucking know but it does by a sizable margin like nanolesses section going from 200 pages->160 pages just because i opened copilot
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is this what vtubing has devolved into? bunch of bitches gossiping about bigger whores on how she fucked over other big sluts?
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porn bros there's no statement of her doing porn anytime soon.
:(
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>>105272281
The AI summary does not account for screenshots btw
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>>105272319
This is what happens when Western e-celeb culture touches anything
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>>105272092
She is specifically calling out Shylily and claiming this was a planned targeted hit by her and Nano
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>>105272310
I'm just looking at the page count as Google Docs presents them
Assuming it was written in Google Docs, this should be accurate to how it appeared to her when writing
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>>105272222
Ross was a paleontologist working at a museum and Rachel's bullshit ramblings was still too much for him. Give it up, you're trying to be the smart person on the short bus. This is fucking 4 Chan for crying out loud
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>>105272319
This is just Twitch 101
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if she posted her irl tits then i would forgive her
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>>105272367
well this much was obvious
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>>105272274
Good, she can rebuild from the ground up
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>>105272367
Fuck yeah, come on Sinder, bring down the whore clan!
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glanced over it and it seems to be
"yeah im bad but they're bad too"

its just women being women
just show tits desu
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you faggots act like teenage girls with all of this gossip.
Bao, Sinder, and Shylilly are fucking normalfag grifter whores so I'm assuming the majority of you are brown.
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Everyone remember that this only affects one group of indies. The sloppies, the ex vshojos, the avengers, the ex holos, neuroverse are fine.
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>>105272274
>It's just business
She hasn't learned a dammed thing, remain a memory
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>>105271880
No one gives a fuck
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>>105271192
>the qrts and replies posting the joker gif
your average vtubing drama audience everyone
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>>105271880
i have a job anon, the last thing i need is 1000 pages of delusion to read.
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>>105272542
virtually everyone is fine because the whoreclan is a very insular and exclusive circlejerk
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So basically Shylily is Hitler of vtubing?
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>>105272600
that'd be rushia thank you very much
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>So basically Shylily is Hitler
yes
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>>105272600
Based
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>>105272563
women and "it is what it is" name a more iconic duo
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>make blue indie cerberus big titty vtuber model
>another girl makes red indie cerberus big titty model
>"you copied me!!!"

wow didn't know that indie vtubers invented huge tits and cerberus what the fuck. these girls are so in over their heads because of their egos it is insane
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>>105271192
Remember Sinder? She's back, in doc form!
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>>105272600
in reality they all are, if any of them are given a valid reason to kill the others career they will. they all want each other gone but need a good excuse to get rid of the other.
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>>105272600
all the people involve in these whole mess is.
yes even the people who wants to see sinder's tits(me)
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>>105272600
nothing wrong with rallying the troops to take down the competition while having a just cause
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>this thread
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>>105271932
Damn that pussy must have been mad good
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Just push the garbage through chatgpt
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>>105272743
If you think it's garbage then you won't even need to do that, you are already decided on an opinion.
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>>105272144
>The fuckbuddymanager is to be believed.
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>>105272563
And she'll have no one to work with.
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>>105271192
this is so fucking tryhard, I couldn't read much of it. Is she stupid? Could she not consult a PR guy? All you had to do was come back and say oopsie, teehee, forgive me guys, I messed up...and do some ASMR or something. Not THIS. No one wants or cares about your bazillion nitpick detail "proof of innocence" crap. What a stupid idea. You're an anime girl that shakes her tits, this isn't fucking Law & Order. Absolute retardation to do it this way. And to stay with that guy....oof. She is so cooked. Why are women so dumb?
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Who ARE the members of the whore clan, specifically? And who are just clan adjacent?
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>>105272731
>open doc
>ctrl+f
>breast
>results: 0
>ctrl+f
>tits
>results: 0

useless ass doc
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>>105271192
Why can't people ever just fuck off permanently?
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I hope this causes a lot of drama and that all the broads involved cry a lot live on stream
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>>105272822
over the years i learned that the bigger the streamer is the less he thinks about consulting a lawyer or a pr team.
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>>105272652
It doesn't really help that they all get the same artists and riggers. Or we've just gotten to a point where the first guy who made the model has just been copied to hell by other people trying to make a buck of commissions.
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All she needed to do was post "I made an oopsie! But I got therapy so you can't be mad anymore. Teehee." And she would have been fine.
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>>105272860
Last time I posted her tits I was banned because /vt/ mods hate ANYTHING IRL, even links. Not taking the bait this time, sorry. Do your reps.
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>>105272830
shylily, bao, sinder.
all i can think of adjacent is tricky
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>>105272909
you will see one or two replies from the main culprits here and that'll be it. MAYBE a stream recap if you're lucky.
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bao farmed this shit so hard, i bet she's salivating at getting a second run of it
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If she starts prostituting then I will forgive her
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>>105272948
She did and Shylily beat her shit in, and then Nanoless showed us that had she even not done all that, the new Shylily models are ugly anyways lol. Sinder did her a favor.
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>>105272948
Nah if I were her I'd be out for blood too. Yeah she's obviously done dumb gamey shit, but the other broads who do it don't get to get away with it too after shooting first.
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>>105272830
>>105272963
It's supposed to be Bao, Tricky, Numi, Yuzu, Vienna, and Shylily is adjacent IIRC tbqh
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>>105271192
does she seriously believe people will read 1000 pages. i have better things to do
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>>105272661
images you can hear!
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>>105273031
>>105272731
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>>105272822
Her retarded boyfriend IS her PR guy.
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>>105271880
You can't possibly have that much time on your hands, that isn't also better spent elsewhere. Hell, you'd invest the time better by grinding a D tier mmo. Honestly fuck you for thinking the rest of us should value our time so lowly. You DESERVE to be the spoonfeeder if you think anyone in their right mind should read through all of this.
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>>105271781
isn't this the same company that partnered with kirsche and asmongold
fucking spare me your sob story, lady. if you want to keep artists on retainer then just negotiate for a deal where they stick around and draw your shit exclusively
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>>105273031
no, she doesn't. exactly her point. nobody will read it, so nobody will be able to tell she's full of shit.
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>>105273195
she won btw
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>>105272089
>Bragging about wasting your energy on 1K pgs of bullshit

This is what the children called a "self-own"
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>>105272935
evidently. I guarantee any professional would tell her this was the wrong way to go about it. She was gone long enough that all she had to do was come back and go about business as usual, she'd retain enough simps and her fatass tits would draw in enough new viewers that she'd still be fine without this word vomit that reeks of desperation. "Look everyone! Look at every single detail of my life and all the stuff I've lied to you about! I'm innocent!" No one cares anymore.
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>>105273253
she won the best curbside location outside of every con run by people with sense for the rest of her pitiful career kek
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>Years ago, I cheated on Red online for my own selfish reasons, and the things I said about him were out of my own frustrations and past experiences.
>We disagree, we get mad at each other, we argue, but our relationship isn’t toxic or abusive in any way.
lmao
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>>105273218
People could tell she's full of shit from her very first paragraph where she admits she's a serial liar and a cheater.
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>>105272909
I feel like this could be some nice potential for crying. the initial hit months ago caused the main players to cry over being "betrayed", but this round could be a more subtle game from orbiters and tertiary friends who jumped on the bandwagon and now feel sorry they fell for the narrative, leading to some tears as they apologize to Sinder
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>>105273023
Not Numi...say it ain't so. She's too stupid to be involved in some plot. Just guilty by association I guess.
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If this ruins Purple Yuri month I'm going to be PISSED.
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>>105273387
>describing a "healthy" toxic relation like it's normal.
this woman
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>>105273083
dude must be rich, a chad and hung like a fucking zoo animal for her to still be with him after he torched her career and all her friendships
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>>105273387
how the fuck do you cheat on someone "online"? Sexting some rando on discord?
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>>105273479
Nah he probably just convinced her she's a publically hated cheater with her best years behind her so no one else will ever love her but him.
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>Cuck Red still around
Pyro Pups, you guys need to walk away lmao
Admiting to cheating is so fucking funny
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>>105273539
It's really sad how many times that's the case. I can't count the number of pretty girls who are with fugly scumbags simply because they've convinced them somehow that they can't do better
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>>105273383
And yet she still makes more than you ever will, all by being herself, and not having to sell out or put on a mask for anyone. Meanwhile, you’re virtue signalling for free. She has a better life than literally every single person who hates her.
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>>105273539
that's honestly a win-win good outcome
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>>105272367
Is this going to turn into a Borderline Personality Disorder vs Borderline Personality Disorder duel of the fates?

How hard is Shilily going to blast back at this to re-bury Sinder?
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>>105272367
>shylily gaslighted another girl into sabotaging shylily's competition
veibae vindicated?
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>over 1000 pages just to say it's everyone's fault but mine
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>>105273541
The funnier part is that Red himself writes that he's been with her since before she started streaming. So she's been lying to em for many years now.
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>>105273623
nta but no, lol
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>>105272822
I always think the same whenever something like this happens, most of her fans probably don't give a shit and just want her to stream. Sure you'll get some screeching in twitter but it'll go away in time if you ignore it. Most people just forget about dramas after a while and just jump to the next one.
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>>105273218
Dramatubers will read it though. They can earn money.
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>>105273620
man, big tits don't mean shit when the rest of you is big as well
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>giving up GSupps ownership (already unmarketable to most bc of what happened)
>she's staying together with Red and making it publicly known
Wow, amazing.

Honestly, the whore clan doesn't even need to do anything else, this is truly career suicide. I cannot see how she will keep going without getting tomatoes thrown at her. The whores will keep their own actual relationships private and keep farming unicorn money, and now they get to appeal to spergs that can't be damned to read anything else. Maybe she hoped she would get the type of support that Nimicucks give out.
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>>105273541
>specifying it was "online" cheating, as if that makes it better somehow
kek
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>>105273739
>(already unmarketable to most bc
literally no one gives a shit. Outside of the few bluesky chuubas who pulled out the entire thing is still going strong lmfao
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>>105273715
Finana did worse and she still has cucks watching her.
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All I'm seeing is her deflecting.
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>>105272600
Shylily is the Noble Consort Gao of vtubing
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>>105273698
I dont fuck around with cheaters at all I think they are fucked mentally in the head. Red staying with her after knowing all this is hilarious.
>>105273748
Guys you got it ALL wrong I was only sexting and slapping my bean to another man over discord ITS NOT THAT BAD GUYS
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>>105273790
They gave enough of a shit to burn her merch before
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>>105273623
she's literally an overweight grifter with the ugliest fucking model so i suggest she start using her money on a new artist. maybe try some ozempic
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>>105273739
Her career was dead regardless, vtuber drama is all tribal warfare, bigger tribe wins, doesn't even matter what happened or didn't happen.
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>>105273739
>GSupps
>unmarketable
??? Their shit sells out within minutes every time they get a new batch in.
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>>105273877
but see, a 2view said she won't be working with gsupps anymore. Its over
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>>105273877
>reading comprehension
Nobody would buy new GSupps merch of her if it dropped
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giving up her ownership of gamersupps was a real bitch move
especially since Shylily is also partial owner
its such a power move to know that any time your enemy is shilling their business, it's also making you money.
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I don't know who's lying and who's telling the truth. But the fact that she lied about her bf and that she doesn't have anyone to back her up makes her look like the guilty party.

She should have just Apologized publicly to Nano and be done with it. This is a terrible move.
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>>105273915
ok you are actually delusional. that whore still has a strong community even after all the dokeys
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>>105273901
>a 2view
>>105271781 self-burn lol
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>>105273915
she owned part of the company, she got a piece of every sale not just her own merch
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>>105273849
She’s posted feet, and honestly, she doesn’t look bad. Hell, Camilla and Mori are probably more overweight than she is.
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chances she "wrote" this with chatgpt?
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>>105271192
Unless there's something about her commiting rape or killing someone. I DON'T CARE.
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>>105271632
It will never happen. You had the opportunity to groom, Anon. To take away money when she didn't do more lewd things
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>>105273715
Exactly. For better or worse, you like who you like. People are just that way. Once you decide you like someone, most people will stick with them even if they fuck up. Sunk cost maybe, I dunno. But all her fans wanted was for her to shut up about this and stream again, not pour gas on the fire. ugh.
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>>105271979
yes

>>105272319
it was always like this
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>>105273984
This is the state of America
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>>105273877
b-but arent they a chud corp that makes flavors for a-asmonbald and k*rsche?
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>>105273732
are you blind and gay? She is perfectly normal size looking, far from big
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>>105273008
Her mouth makes her look like an abyssal creature what the fuck
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>>105273915
What board did you get linked from? Sinder could literally have murder Shylily live and she would still have thousands of paypigs funding her.
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>>105273984
how do we save him
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>>105273984
Camilla is a fatass goblin, she's in a category far beyond those other two
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>>105274094
I'm sorry you're American but she's easily 65kg minimum
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>>105273987
She literally says she didnt use AI for this and it doesn't use the common speech patterns you see in AI slop.
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>>105271192
pretty dull so far, when does she start namedropping everybody else's boyfriends for vengeance?
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>>105273668
More like NPD vs NPD.
It'll be endlessly glorious. NPD cunts hold grudges for a lifetime when they feel slighted
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Not reading this shit, fuck off. 4chan is a better use of my time than reading 1k pages of vtuber drama drivel. Maybe you'll get some vindictive no life to sift through this, but I'm going to go back to streams and playing video games.
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>>105274190
It's actually 857, Sinder lied, AGAIN
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>>105272948
if shylily coordinated to take down sinder with mischaracterization, it's way worse than anything sinder was accused of

sinder had an artist on retainer and it inconvenienced her friends
shylily faked a friendship with her competition in order to manipulate her competition's friends to destroy her

the gravity of shylily's accusations are way worse
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>>105274141
120 tops. maybe 130 from the tits. Sorry you're used to anorexic dehydrated skeletons, anon
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“My boyfriend/manager was with me from the very beginning when I started ASMR, helping me with all the technical stuff and equipment.” Fauna/Nimi cucks, are your eyes finally opened to reality?
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>Silvervale has her section
Okay I side with Sinder, fuck silvervale.
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>>105274190
>>105272731
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So either Lily's a fucking evil genius, or Sinder is fucking so delusional she THINKS Lily's an evil genius... Which outcome's funnier?
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The worst part of all of this is knowing Red is always in the fucking room with her while she streams and is the one that basically makes every choice for her. She's just a dancing puppet. How anyone could still watch her without feeling like a massive cuck is a mystery
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>>105274308
>Hololive out of nowhere
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>>105273620
i have jerked it to this exact video on at least twenty different occasions
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>>105274235
it will be ironic if it's Shylily who just responds with "I made an oopsie! sowwy Sinder!"
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>>105274323
both are cunts
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>>105274347
Welcome to the reality of ASMR whores, anyone that actually thought they were single or pure is fucking deluded
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>>105271192
>1,000 page LARP session
Sorry to hear, or congratulations Sinder
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>>105274235
they should butt fight each other and shut the fuck up
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>>105274356
>unzips
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>>105274363
You know what? Agreed.
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>>105271192
This can only be solved with a scissoring competition. Whoever cums the most times loses.
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>>105274363
I'd fuck both of their cunts
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>>105273623
so do lots of ghoulish people who profit from signal boosting fascism
this is not some amazing own, this is just you being triggered about normal people not wanting you around
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>>105274347
ALWAYS assume vtubers are in a relationship, people need to stop getting suckered into thinking they have a chance.
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>>105274398
Unironically explaining all this in detail is worse for her career than the initial doccy. I was on her side, but now I want nothing to do with her. Its just gross.
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>>105274235
You know it's also possible that both of them are equally evil, competitive, and ready to backstab their peers, and Shylily was merely the smarter one here.
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>>105274398
lmao. yours is a whore, mine is pure. get wrecked scrub
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>dropped from GSupps ownership and admitted she has a bf
It really doesn't matter who's right Sinder lost bigly
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>>105274469
Oh I have no delusions about that. Young, cute girls have a 99% chance of having a bf or being married. But to know the dude sits there and watches her stream, and picks all her outfits and UI and sponsors and everything just feels extra disgusting
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>speculations throughout the doccy
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>those fat tits belong to Redacted now
she can write another 2000 pages for the fucking fun of it, she is officially WORTHLESS
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>>105274141
just more hellhound mommy to love
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>>105271192
here's a semi-summary read from someone who ended up giving up kek
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>>105271192
The 1st 3 pages are glazing her BF, I don't see any point watching her unless she does porn on fansly.
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>>105274529
At least you get to live with the fact that he is forever in the cuck chair for going back to her after cheating. Thats Rule 1
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>nano might leak stuff sometimes
>silver needs to sue this insane bitch
That's all i could take from this
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>>105274484
And who is yours anon?
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>Grr, listen up, you sniveling whelps! This 'ere Google scroll be a massive tome from Sinder the Hellhound, defendin' 'erself against a pack o' lyin' traitors like Nanoless, Shylily, an' Silvervale. She claims they twisted words 'bout gaslightin' artists, cheatin' on 'er mate Red, an' stirrin' jealousy in the VTuber horde. Stuffed with screenshots o' sweet-talkin' DMs to prove 'er innocence, admittin' some fibs but blamin' the accusers for the real dark magic. 'Tis a 1000-page war cry sayin' "They lied, not me!" But the mob scoffs, callin' it goblin gibberish. Wot a bloody mess!
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>>105274308
She made chat say thanks to him on 1 of her earlier streams, kek.
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>>105274588
how did she think that was a good idea? To start her big explanation by dry humping her LONG time boyfriend, verbally, for page after page?
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>>105274094
>perfectly normal size
Do amerigolems really?
>>105274287
>not overweight = anorexic
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>>105274495
Tourist unicorn here. Did she advertise herself as free? If so, that's unforgivable. If not, then my assumption (as with the majority of westoid vtubers) is not giving them the benefit of the doubt.
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>>105274477
I wouldn’t necessarily say her bf reveal was the worst thing, twitch indies infamous have a large cucked audience who would celebrate and defend such a thing
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All im getting from this is indie vtubers are probably just e-girls getting pimped out by boyfriends who dont want to work a real job
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>>105274612
true. but when you get to hit that and rake in piles of cash, its hard to not call that a win
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>>105274631
batat
Prove she's a whore. Protip: You can't.
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How the fuck is Silver a liar when there's proof of Sinder doing the shit Silver clocked her on?
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>>105274684
TLDR right here. This is it in a nutshell.
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>>105274569
on page 120 right now and most of it is just throwing nano under the bus then backing up over the corpse multiple times
as well as
>when I said X what I meant was Y
>when I told nano she should only work for sinder I didn't mean it
>when I asked if she was doing work for bao it wasn't trying to see what bao was doing
>when sinder's cup was released a month before silver's it was actually just so sinder didn't get compared to silver or told she was copying silver
>we always knew silver hated sinder because of the way she acted when sinder raided
also I'd really like to know how old nano is because she types like a 12 year old OMG ALL CAPS KEKW PEPEGA POGGERS
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>>105274684
This is the reality, because all these girls are neets with 0 real life experience that didint have the balls to be actual whores so they started baited simps online especially after the vtuber boom. And any guy they get with ends up becoming their manager who essentially just pimps them out on the internet lol
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>>105274684
I wish I had a gf I could pimp out ...
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>>105272222
check those quads
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>>105274708
>literal who
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Is this bitch gonna do something with her Fansly or not??? Why is she wasting time on this bullshit when she could have had a successful career hornybaiting dumbasses willing to part with money for subpar ecchi?
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none of this changes the fact that she was and is still with Red. GFE pups are still justified for walking away.
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>>105274094
you must be a starving Filipinos child. shes overweight.
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>>105274684
Quite literally how Nimi got her start, her bf wanted her to do asmr.
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>>105271192
>with a google dockey as sizeable as her tits
based
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>>105274679
Pretty unforgivable. She's going to lose some of the diehard Pyropups with these revelations. All that will be left are Pyrocucks.
>Claims she's not in a relationship and "living with extended family"
>Actually living with her boyfriend's family with him in the room during streams
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>>105272144
So, basically, there is no defence.
The only thing from this entire shitshow that I think is dodge is the fact that the artist got off completely without any repercussions and is even seen a principle victim rather than the willing, bought-and-paid-for collaborator they actually were. Now that was some fucking bullshit. The rest of it stands it seems.
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>>105274807
Because of her bf/manager, it’s why someone like Silver or Shylily are safe cause they went full on whore which never would’ve happened if they had boyfriends
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Why is the indie sphere just high school girl drama?
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Nanoless is too much of a mediocre artist for this level of drama.
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>>105274767
Anon, over half of the girls being discussed on this thread were posting in /soc/ threads over a decade ago, they're 35+.
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>>105274844
Then why did he make her stop when she joined Hololive? And why did he even make her leave Hololive too
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>>105274882
because in the immortal words of bowling for soup: "high school never ends"
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>>105274762
Probably early 20s and they're brazillian
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i guess money is gettin so tight that this retarded cunt needs to comback now to get some bucks from the 20 idiots that are waiting for her. Desperate whore is desperate.
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>>105274911
I never said they weren’t hags, they literally grew up on the internet but have 0 actual work experience
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>>105274882
Most streamers never matured past high school, that’s why
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>>105274917
They broke up around the time when she joined (doxxfags found his social media and he was with another girl iirc), she started dating some other guy some time after she joined.
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Why is this Red guy co-authoring this thing if he was going behind her back shit-talking Bao in DMs who was one of her best friends apparently? Is that covered anywhere?
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>>105274858
It's kind of nuts how good she came out looking after everything. Such a good little Rat. Got her cheese and a pat on the back.
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>>105274882
no holo level paycheck to disincentivize infighting
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wtf was silver's problem?
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>>105274993
Bitch couldn’t even commit to the idol dream and stay single lmao, good fucking riddance to her
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>>105274998
They "forgave" each other.
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>first part of the doc is just about her boyfriend/manager
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>>105275046
Her problem was clocking Sinder for the clout chasing leech she was on sight.
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>>105274432
kino but I'm still more partial to settling it through some sort of streamed oil wrestling event
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>>105274684
true and real, the reason why these girls can't get into a corp is because the boyfriend managers disqualify them, companies will only allow unattached boyfriends
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>>105274853
>Claims she's not in a relationship and "living with extended family"
lmao what the fucking whore. Unforgivable.
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>>105274998
She’s been with the guy since the very beginning and lives with him, so not like she had a choice when nobody else was on her side
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>>105273536
Basically yeah. She flirted with some discord fuckboy and complained about her boyfriend to him.
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>>105274992
Hasn't Shylily been living with her "manager" for years now? I thought it was obvious it was her bf.
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>>105275113
>fauna
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>>105271932
oh, so she's just trying to push all the blame on him
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So the moral of the story is everyone involved was bad?
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>>105274858
basically, she's trying to drag her accusers down with her; they are all bad people.
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>>105275164
All managers for indies are either their boyfriends or delusional trannies
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https://x.com/HeavenlyArrows/status/1975736064775278948
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>>105274998
Having a cuck for a boyfriend means you have someone who will die on your hill. The fact that she broke up with him and he was still waiting for her when she wanted to rekindle their relationships should tell you everything you need to know.
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I don't get it.
Why do we have so many RETARDS wanting to see Sinder's IRL tits when her boyfriend actually fucks them 24/7? What is the idea here?
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Do this Sinder, coomers don't care whether you are a bitch or have a bf. We will accept you.

Use what God gave you. Shylily wishes she looked like her model. Don't let that flat board put you down.
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>>105274992
Its true. Only gfe schizos care abojt relationships, coomers just care that you keep pumping out slop to jeek to.
Hell, theres even a niche for openly having a boyfriend and mocking your paypigs
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>>105275221
Yes, dont trust e-girls
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>>105271192
@grok summarize this google dockey
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>>105275002
It's not all surprising really since it comes from the exact same place and proponents of the tedious
>believe and defend all artists/wahmen/victims/darkies who can do no wrong!!!
that infests twitter/bluesky/leddit.
This mindless "defence" of "artists" has been enough for me to be at first indifferent to ai sloppa to now relishing the prospect that it'll wipe whole swathes of them out.
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>>105271192
>ONE
>THOUSAND
>FUCKING
>PAGES
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>>105275368
Sinder is a whore
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I literally don't care about anything she did or any drama around her. She is sexy as fuck and she makes me coom
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Uhohhh Numi bros our queen ain't gonna like this
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>>105275288
What is there to wonder? I watch porn of guys fucking attractive women. Thats arguably cuckier. Why wouldn't I want to watch Sinders boobs?

There's a severe lack of boobie vtubers on the EN side. I will take what I can get.
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>>105275288
not everyone is a delusional idiot like you, anon
tits are tits regardless of who's fucking them. people see tits, their penises get hard and they are happy
i'm a foot man so i really don't give a shit, wake me up when she does an irl unshod in public stream or something
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So trying to see if I got this all right.
>sinder
Had the bf, claims to not be fully aware of the bullshit they were pulling but is sticking with them despite this.
>sinders bf
Really just seems like a retard about opsec.
>shylily and silvervale
Dogpiling backstabbing whores
>bao
Constantly fucked by life
Do I have this all right?
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>Spite and Aruuu sections are "who the fuck even are you?"
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>>105275288
>>her boyfriend actually fucks them 24/7
>she cheats on him
>he fucks a fleshlight instead of her
yeah, sounds like a real productive relationship
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>>105273915
Didn't she get a massive hype train a few weeks ago despite not being live?
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>>105275482
Silver really didn't do shit, was just dragged into it for some fucking reason.
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>>105275482
Close. It can be summed up like this.
Bao (puts out coom content) > Silvervale (minor coom content) > everyone else
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Would it have been better for Sinder to just stream instead of releasing this?
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>>105271192
DID

NOTHING

WRONG
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>>105275539
She dragged herself in
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Our boy is on the case already:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSV8QStKvw4
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>>105275558
She would have made a lot of money so yeah.
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>>105271192
Finally the braindead drones jumping even at the slight mention of her with incoherent screeching stops being normalized, holy fuck those simps were a pain in the ass.
These fucking cabals deserve the rope.
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>>105275558
Yes. If she just took a one month break and went back to streaming it would have all blown past, this shit's not even top 10 worst thing a streamer has done.
But everyone involved is a BPD whore so don't expect smart choices
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>>105275558
Streaming DURING the initial onslaught would have been the smart move, confront that shit head on while making gains view wise.
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>>105275408
stupid Grok everyone knows that
i didn't ask for that
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>>105274444
fascism is when saying men can't be women
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>>105275482
swap out silvervale for nanoless and its perfect
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>>105275582
Trial in session already
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who cares
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So Nanoless admitted in Discord DMs to Red that she was glad to accept all of Sinder and Red's money to just do Sinder commissions. And lied in her own document about being "manipulated" about it, then tried to make it look like Sinder was the "business" oriented one.

And, instead of just posting the DMs directly where Nanoless says so, they fumbled the ball. Nanoless is a piece of shit but this was all so poorly handled...

They also mentioned Nanoless firing at the hip about rigging drama without even talking to anyone first, so Nanoless really just keeps getting away with it.
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Thank god my oshi does not talk to anybody from the whore clan
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She's WAY too late with this. The funny thing is I believe her because Shylily and Bao are both massive cunts, but the court of public opinion made their decision and has long since forgotten about this by now. Unless she has some crazy gotcha on them people aren't going to care about "wah but they were mean too". Not that it matters really, she will never regain the heights she reached before but she will still do more than well enough, especially if she continues on the gooner route.
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>>105275558
No. She's hopefully reading this thread and hopefully she realizes that whatever she had planned for her return stream was retarded. She shouldn't even stream live for the first couple of weeks. Pre-record yourself playing minecraft or something like that and upload it. Let the antis get tired by that.
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>>105275692
Not streaming did infinitely more damage to her career than any drama ever could
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>>105275691
That's me watching Rosie the Cow
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>>105275057
>>105274993
They didn't broke up after she joined, she dated him almost a year into Hololive. They were living together too.

It's very likely that she got with the new guy in 2023. So she was only single for like a year(which was her best btw, when she carried EN on her shoulders)
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>>105275582
Easy money.
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>>105271192
Not reading all of that shit
>Across its six parts, the document functions as both a personal testimony and a public relations defense. It acknowledges poor judgment, emotional fragility, and professional overreach, yet rejects the portrayal of Sinder as manipulative or malicious. Red’s inclusion adds narrative complexity — distributing accountability and contextualizing miscommunication as shared fault.
>Ultimately, Sinder positions herself not as innocent, but as a flawed human being overwhelmed by the conflation of friendship, business, and internet spectacle. The document’s central argument is that while mistakes were real, the public narrative of villainy was an exaggeration — a distortion amplified by gossip, misinterpretation, and opportunism.
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>>105274876
>they went full on whore which never would’ve happened if they had boyfriends
DYRBI? lol
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just do asmr with your jugs out
why is this so hard
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>>105274684
congrats you figured it out.
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>>105271880
You should do something productive and rope instead
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>>105275482
Missing the all Nanoless parts
Nanoless
>dramamonger artist
>admitted to Red in DMs she loves gossip
>gossips in DMs about her own clientele
>started a drama about an Ironmouse rig without talking in private first
>basically consented to making every Sinder piece and cucked her other clientele by her own choosing
>blamed her choosing to take Sinder comms over others ON Sinder and Red, despite taking their money
>made the initial Sinder callout post, coordinated it with Bao as their posts were just 6 minutes apart

The disgusting part is because this is all in the indiesphere, having her blacklisted from companies would do nothing. People still value her art despite her shit behavior.
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So while we await the inevitable Shylily responce dockey, what did we learn /vt/?
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So Shylily was the mastermind? Color me surprised. Being a intelligent cold blooded businesswoman who knows her laws. No way people though that she is just uwu waifu behind the scenes.
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>>105274308
You're not turning this into your Daily Seethe about Nimi thread, monkey.
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>>105275903
Niggers can't and won't read
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>>105275903
I learned its nice to not give a fuck about a situation and watch people try to murder each others careers.
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>>105274235
Seems like sinder was just too fucking stupid and her bf was also fucking stupid
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please don't let the artist get away with it this time
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>>105275903
Flicking your bean to men in your dms while having a boyfriend irl is bad. Other than that idk women are weird.
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so both Lily and Sinder are shit got it
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>mfw indie shithole crab bucket infighting drama
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So is she still a manipulative bitch or not? Jerking off to her knowing that she was evil made me diamonds. I can't lose this, /vt/. There are only so many menhera's so public about it.
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>>105275582
>it is 5AM
Didn't know dude is a yuropoor
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>>105275883
She WON
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>>105275883
Should be noted Shylily was the one who coordinated the docs and pushed Bao to make one too when she was apparently fucked up due to a hormone imbalance or something
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>>105276045
she's even more evil now
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>>105276045
She's going to resume streaming despite having a boyfriend, take that as you will.
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>>105276045
Dont worry her doccy was more or less her deflecting and accusing everyone of being asses so you can still hate fap.
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>>105276051
Pretty sure he's french
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>>105275883
Was nano the one who canceled Kevin? Because that was based
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>>105276045
Well she admitted to lying about her boyfriend and also cheated on him, so yes.
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>>105275482
Bao legitimately can’t catch a break and can’t even get fucked right, I feel bad for her
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>>105276045
She attributes most of the blame to her bf and nano, so just a lying whore
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>>105276109
It's not exactly hate, I never even watched her besides a few clips before the drama. I just like crazy, vindictive women. Reminds me of my mother.
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funniest doccy i ever read
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>>105275622
Your type is really weirdly obsessed with that, might want to wipe your hard drivies before your own find out
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Real funny that she dropped this at 3:15AM yurotime, just for shylily
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>>105271781
Shes an evil bitch along with the sharks that canceled her. They can all kill themselves.
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>>105275314
Name?
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>>105275225
This is what i wanted
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>>105275883
>People still value her art despite her shit behavior.
Gaou-papa...go to EN.....they need you..
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>>105276377
Your type is really weirdly obsessed with fascism
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shylily is a ruthless business woman
this is nothing new
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>>105271192
For someone claiming she's not actually obsessed with Silvervale, she sure talks about Silver ALOT in this jesus christ.
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>>105275883
Her art ain't even that great though? Theres at least 300 artists who can do her level of work if not better.
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>>105271192
Cool, I’m gonna continue not watching any of these people.
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They fly now?
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>>105276594
doesn't matter, retarded sheep will always chase after one artist while others struggles to stay afloat because no one wants to take risks with them
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>nano gets away with it again because she's really good at art
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>>105272731
If this was a hololive related matter I would read it all
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>>105276754
no you wouldn't
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>>105273620
>obese
>skinny model
every time
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Is Buffpup coming out clean on this? I know she had her little pop off when this initially happened.
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>>105276872
Basically she knew a few days before the doccys got released because everyone was talking
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>>105276872
buffpup is an idiot but from what i've seen/know of her, she is always 100% honest and blunt. the pop off was a little bad but I think she's fine
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>>105276982
>dumb
>honest
>blunt
name anyone truer to their character
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>>105276045
Fantastic news anon, she's still a bitch.
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>>105272327
This is her hail Mary, if you wanna see her jugs you better pray this fails
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>>105276045
She is. The document is complete nonsense.
Go nuts.
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>>105277249
>1000 page document of even more bullshit and lies
UOOOOOOH
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>>105271192
Fuck you Red! I'm so fucking jealous you're banging that ass!!!
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it has to all be bullshit
if it wasn't all fake she wouldn't need 1000 pages
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>>105277163
Its not that bad. most of it is discord screenshots. The rest of it can be read in 20 minutes
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I don't think this is a good strategy. Probably should have just apologized.
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>>105277722
Apologized for what?
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>>105277764
our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our dicks, 'specially since they're such good size an all
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>>105277347
I read Nanoless section. It has screenshots and all. Basically, Nano has been taking shitload of jobs and her samey designs between Sinder and another Vtuber stirred up some drama behind the scene. Red and Sinder told her to focus on their team since they had a close relationship since 2022 and believed Nano would understand that nuance. She immediately rejected every other jobs during the time by her own personal choice, only until recently when she claimed she did it because she got manipulated.
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>>105277722
>Regular youtubers sabotage each other's channel by public witch hunting announcement and manipulate their fans into a miniscule online war
>Everyone sleeps
>Vtuber woman bad mouthed other Vtuber in her private Discord DM
>WTF this is outrageous we should burn her alive!
Do Vtube niggers really?
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Bigger retard: Nano or Red?
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>>105277846
Nanoless gotta respond to at least this part.
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https://x.com/powdury/status/1975767468183527499
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>>105277846
>only until recently when she claimed she did it because she got manipulated
femoid moment
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Not enough tits in this thread
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>>105275975
>>105277846
Seriously all this shit happened because nanoless could have simply said no to things people were asking them to do but instead decided to cry and claim they were manipulated for some reason. Extremely unprofessional behavior.
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>>105278020
I would say Sinder is the biggest retard here. She might have autism because she actually believed this drawfag she hired was her best friend and thought mass buying membership of another vtuber will make them good friends over time. Autistic people have difficulty in social relationship, they have weak cautionary instinct and try to make friends in the most alien, incomprehensible way. This might explain why Redact is there because he can actually speak and convince people into collab and stuff.
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>>105278186
Paizuri with this menhera...
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>>105278210
>nanoless could have simply said no to things people were asking them
You don't seem to get how important her role is to Sinder's Vtube identity. She literally created this fire wolf woman design and Sinder expected her to be the mainstay designer for it, which is honestly, a very reasonable request. She must not say no, like how a mangaka must not say no when the publisher ask her to draw the next chapter for her manga. When Nano keep taking more Vtuber jobs, each of those job contain the same level of responsibility, she was stretching herself way too thin.
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I'm reading through the document and I honestly thing it's pretty well written.

Re: Nanoless (Super unprofessional artist who loves drama and loves discussing other client information with Red)

1. Most of Red's messages have arguably been misinterpreted.
2. Nanoless was already considering cancelling Bao and Nanoless lied about starting and cancelling Bao because of Red
3. Sinder has not shown any remorse towards any of her sisters and the artstyle.
A small section regarding the exclusivity deal and Nano not being able to keep to the terms of the deal despite it only being a month.
A small section regarding Nano's new "manager" (probably a lie) and using them as a way to part with Sinder with the reason being artistic burnout (lie)

Re: Bao (Both Sac and Bao have brainworms and Nanoless is still being unprofessional)

1. Most of Red's messages have arguably been misinterpreted.
2. Some poor communication that's just a nothingburger
3. Nanoless discussing with Red about cancelling Bao's model (of her own accord)
4. A part regarding Sac (Bao's editor) and how he psyoped (joke) Red into thinking Bao hates Sinder (Red self hallucinates Bao Hate)
5. Bao and brainworms and co.
6. Back to Nanoless and artist exclusivity and how she doesn't mind cancelling Bao

Re: VCard + Numi (Sinder's Fault)

1. Going to the Numi Concert and not performing (nothingburger) (I'm pretty sure Numi and Sinder made up and it was just cause of miscomms)
2. VCard Collab (even bigger nothing buger)

Re: Shylily

1. VCard leak (Nothing burger)
2. Shylily not namedropping Sinder + not thanking second raid + ghosting Sinder
3. Red talking to Nanoless about Shylily's weird behaviour

t. /pcg/ tourist
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>>105276204
From what I see, she says ShyLily got all these people, some who never spoke to each other, together in a discord call and went 'HOW CAN WE CANCEL SINDER'
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>>105275731
Ngl I think Sayu has a much more fuckable body
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>>105276872
Buff just tweets to them and tells them to fuck off. Lmfao
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>>105275731
>Chubby
>Tall
>A cringe weeb
WTF this is kino. Nanoless sabotaged this.
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https://x.com/InpuVirus/status/1975768244922556658
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>>105276045
No... The plot twist of this episode is that Shylily was the manipulative bitch that made the entire friend group destroy her, and her business.
So it's Shylily now who will make you reach the hardness of adamantium, with the context reframing everything to the level of Shylily literally tried push Bao into suicide for extra drama points.
You dick might explode knowing this. I am sorry brother....
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She is hiring artist to redesign the wolf girl. Drawfags, now is your chance.
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I never forgave Shylily for chasing off Sinder's tits and then not posting her own somewhere as recompense, so I hope Sinder wins. Not reading that thing tho.
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>>105278810
okay that's funny
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>>105279010
I don't hope for any of the vtubers to win or lost, i just want Nano to go full cowardly mode and private her Xwitter account/Move to Bluesky. That would be spicy.
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>>105278455
cont.

Re: Breakdown

1. Sinder thinks Shylily psyoped Nanoless who then banded co to attack Sinder
2. Timeline starting from Nano working on Lily's model to Sinder posting her apology (Sinder speculating about Shylily's psyop)
3. Nano's "new manager" speculation (Shylily psyoped Nano into using "new manager" to communicate with Sinder)
4. Speculation regarding timezone discrepancies (Nano wasn't the only person taking her screenshots)
5. Breaking down Nano's document (Just what I talked about, but showing Nano's screenshots that miss out on important context)
6. Nano message manipulation, discrepncies across bao/nanoless screenshots (stuff cropped out) and (speculation) about how nanoless was manipulated by shylily when building her doc
7. Speculation that Nano's motive to leak messages to Shylily (before getting manipulated) was because Red messaged Nano about Shylily's ghosting and shit
8. Speculation that Shylily wrote Nano's document (she used & alot in nanos document and in her own + shylily showing contempt to Sinder)
9. Baos document + stream (she believed) was misinformed (just read Re:Bao on why)
10. Alot of speculation about the following
a. Shylily contacted Bao for Nano because if she did it herself Bao would have asked for more context and incriminated Nano
b. Bao's modeled wasnt cancelled a second time
c. Nano didn't want to make Bao's model
11. Shylily's document being an accumulation of what I covered and exaggerating/misconstruing it
12. Shylily's stream being petty and lying (ignoring all the petty comments cause who gaf, the things she says on stream does have discrepancies with the picture shown)
13. Sinder apologising to Numi about the things she said on stream
14. Speculation about Nano lying and Lily's Manipulation and the growth they got from it
15. It was a witch hunt
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>>105271192
inb4 bao kills herself
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>>105279293
cont.

Re: Silvervale

189 pages condensed into, Silvervale menhera

Re: Aruuu

She lied Sinder did nothing wrong (or so it seems)

Re: Spite

78 Pages to say she wasn't copying Spite (Sure)

TLDR: Nanoless is a good artist but a horrible business person. Everything would've been solved if Nano acted more professional. Speculation regarding Shylily's speculation is a bit iffy and I don't completely trust it. Everything else are either nothing burgers or bad communication
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>>105279531
I'd prefer if she just did a depressed masturbation stream on fansly.
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I believe it wasn't Shylily or Sinder being the real evil here, but it was Nano all along. Don't believe that? Hear me out. Nanoless is pushing her Vtuber career hard, she saw how successful her clients have become and believe she can do it too with the exact same artstyle and design. Using Sinder as the stepping stone makes alot of sense, just a minor sacrifice for bigger things to come.
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>>105278455
>>105279293
>>105279573
finally, some meat
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>>105278979
rate my model
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>>105279661
But shes so boring to watch
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>>105279661
or or or
She could have a successful vtuber and her friends boost her and continue to sap her fans.
Why would you make them scatter if your goal was to take them?
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>>105279573
that's kinda what I got out of the whole thing too
alot of what sinder and red said were taken out of context
just alot of he said she said I didn't mean it in this way, I meant it in that way
maybe it is like >>105279661 said and she is trying to further her vtuber career taking a page out of Red's book "business is business"
I definitely believe silver is menhera because she's always been that way and shylily always gave me the vibes of someone who is willing to do anything to get ahead
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>>105273623
How much is she making? 100k? 200k? Hell, maybe even 300k. Now I wonder how long that career and income will stay stable. I reckon it'll be about 1-4 years.
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Drawfags are universally evil. If you see a drama and a drawfag is on a side of the conflict, instantly claim he/she is the wrong one. It is always correct.
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>>105279709
There's also a little tidbit where she admitted to lying about Spite in her first apology, "to not make things worse for myself."

I'm still not understanding how Silver has any part in this, though. She admitted that it was entirely on her hating the woman for no reason.
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>>105272274
hopefully not using the same artist.
Get a big JP/KR artist, or a popular westerner who knows nothing of this drama
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>>105279695
gamersupps cups are no indication of quality or success, they kind of give them to anyone who sucks up to the owners.
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>>105279787
I really don't know... it seemed like she just wanted to be friends with silver but also I think silver's fanbase probably harassed her about the model looking the same and of course the merch ordeal
may be mistaken, but I believe she said she released her figure and cup both a month before silver did and she probably got some heat for doing so because in truth that does look like you're just trying to get ahead so your competition doesn't sell as well, the same can be said as to why she wanted a floaty thing like bao
but at the same time you can flip it and say she did it all to be petty, if I release mine first it looks like you copied me this time
hard to tell the intent of anything at all... it's all circumstantial
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>>105279708
>She could have a successful vtuber and her friends boost her and continue to sap her fans.
It has been like that, her clients, especially Sinder boosted her popularity as an artist in the past. However this drama gave her a different kind of public awareness. She is a mini influencer eversince, not just an artist.
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>>105279573
>>105278455
>>105279293
So pretty much it's just gaslighting left and right which could've easily been done in 3 pages max but she did this to make people not give a fuck about reading the novel and just believe her if I'm not wrong?
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>>105280203
Pretty much.
As soon as you actually READ any of it, it falls apart instantly.
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https://x.com/MizutamariVT/status/1975632546831737261
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>>105271362
Well this post aged poorly LMAO
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>>105271880
Holy shit Team Sinder, did you seriously design this with /vt/ in mind? That's actually fucking hilarious, now it's backfired. Amazing work, guys. Gave me a huge bellylaugh
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>>105280203
It is long because it traces back to several years ago when she just met Nanoless and how she did some cringe like raiding ( basically buys several months of membership at once for other streamer ). I gave it a try and honestly, even if you condense this petty drama, it would be 100 pages because it has so many shameful behind the scene info.
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>>105271192
Hark, ye squires and fiends of the digital realm! This mighty tome chronicles the valiant defense of Sinder, the hellhound champion, against the perfidious illusions cast by enchanters Nanoless, Shylily, and Silvervale. They charge her with gaslighting artists, betraying her loyal Red, and sowing discord 'midst VTuber knights—yet screenshots and earnest dispatches reveal their twisted words and envious schemes, whilst she owns minor slips but thrusts the proof's burden upon accusers. 'Tis a crusade for truth, where lies topple like foul giants; the mob cries madness, but justice rides eternal on Rocinante's hooves!
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>>105280247
>Falls apart
This "drama" is already on the ground. Who gives a fuck if streamers and youtubers talk shit about each other? It happens all the time but for some reason, these white women with anime girl avatars are not allowed to do that for some reason.
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>>105280461
Unfortunately, when people say they want vtubers to be more like anime characters, this is what they really meant.
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>>105280203
I do think its overly verbose but at the same time shes like replying for 5 documents at once. Like others have said a lot of it are just screenshots that are better to have there than not tbhdesu

>>105280247
I don't it falls apart but I'll have to wait for the response to actually have a real opinion on this. The new info about Nanoless paints her as super scummy and unprofessional but I don't particularly buy the rrat about them Shylily and Nano scheming
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>>105280532
Yeah, but some strands just... like what the hell is this? She just admits here that she lied about not knowing what was going on with Spite.
She had like 3 full pages for how she totally didn't know anything about Spite, and the entire apology was about how much it was all Red's fault and how she hated him for manipulating her friends or something, but then in THIS document, she admits she lied about it and that they'll totally be together forever anyways.
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>>105271192
i trust her when she says she didn't use ai for this
it takes a real human to fuck up the document this badly
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>>105280621
Red is a real person in her life, they are not gonna breakup because of some internet drama. This is an issue by itself, she cannot punish or fire him.
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>>105280738
Yes, which just makes it even more obvious that when she tweeted about shifting all the blame to him and firing him, nobody fucking bought it.
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>>105272568
The only gif I see multiple times is the Minecraft movie.
You... don't think the Minecraft movie is Joker, right?
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>>105280790
It is obvious that a woman will always protect her husband, especially when their marriage is still in its honeymoon phase. I don't think she actually shifted all the blame to Red, i think it was more like she made up fake wrong doings he didn't do to cover up the real wrong doings he actually did.
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>>105280925
how Red didn't dump her ass for this OR the cheating on him I'll never know
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>>105280955
have you seen those tits?
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>>105280955
Because obviously he is leeching on this popular vtuber who happens to be his girlfriend. Between being a millionaire cuckold and a nobody again, alot of guys chose to be a millionaire inspite of its drawback.
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The reason why it's 1000 pages long is so that every single illiterate retard will try use AI to summarize it for them. The AI, being as dumb as the user, will give them an output so diluted that it will look like a real apology, and the morons will believe it.

It's intentionally designed to not be read by an actual thinking human. Sinder's banking on the fence-sitting idiots and pyropups who can't read.
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>>105281052
The real illiterate retards are the one who think this dogshit is even worthy of being a drama. Wake me up when Sinder raped a kid or something.
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https://x.com/KitsuraNines/status/1975796054898495923
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Damn, her IRL are big.
This simp Red cannot let go of her
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>>105281250
Her red flags are big, but her boobs are bigger



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