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What's the /vt/erdict
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>>105279758
I want to jerk off to her even harder now that she fabricated a document 1000 pages long and tried to backpedal/push the blame even further.
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>>105279758
We don't care
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>>105279758
Time to find a new artist. Any suggestions?
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didn't watch her before, still won't watch her now
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All sides are at fault, all drama is a result of manipulative bitches being manipulative bitches trying to one-up one another. Literally a gigantic mountain of evidence damning everybody involved and Sinder is still guilty(and still with Red, who is the catalyst for all of this to begin with). Unsubscribing from all of them and I have no interest in any content related to any of them from this moment forward.
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This bitch is crazier than I thought, but like in a funny way.
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>>105279758
tl;dr
>I admit everything that they said about me is true
>I admit I was selfish
>But all of it was Red's fault. He was the manipulative mastermind who hurt everyone in my name
>Oh by the way we're staying together both in business and as a couple
>Also I lied about some of the things in my first apology to make myself look better. Sorry about that.
>But it's a conspiracy between everyone led by that whore ShyLily!
>I don't have any proof but read my 130 page "Speculation" section which isn't legally binding so I can't get sued, but has my schizo reasoning as to why they MUST have all secretly hated me which justifies my actions.
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>>105279758
still a whore, still don't care
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I wish she had a multi page long section where she told all of the dramatubers to kill themselves
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>>105279758
she's overcompensating too much for a return. I'm a schizo and I don't think it's worth spending hours on likely fabricated garbage slop. The time you spend reading could be better spent doing anything else.
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Sinder and her boyfriend used the Whore Clan for their numbers. They were never friends with them and happily worked against them in private.
Nano is a retard who chased the bag and deserves shit for it. Her saving grace is that she was the one who exposed it all and the people she fucked over forgave her.
Sinder also really, really fucking hates Lily, Silver, Spite, and Bao for no real reason.
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>>105279758
>Hasn't stremed in months
>Money running out
>Drop a 1,000 page schizo document playing the victim for attention.
>People are reminded she exists and show up to her comeback stream to see the potential drama.
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terminal case of disomy x
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>>105280079
I think Lily hates Sinder and Sinder can't really get around that because she's iron-tight with all of Sinder's other friends. Silver and Spite are because they are """competing""" hellhound girl VTubers and for whatever retarded reason she thinks they are fighting over the same community pool instead of realizing that tons of their fans were just in all of their communities anyways. Bao I have no clue about, I can only imagine Bao was entirely a Red™ Moment™ but Bao's proximity to literally every other person involved made the chemical reaction obscenely more explosive.
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>>105279758
She sucks, whore clan also sucks
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>>105279758
She fucked up a perfectly good chance to take down the twitch whore clan she frequented. Wasted opportunity
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>>105280232
>Spite
Her part didn't make any sense in the original drama about this
>I was a blue dog
>Sinder had a blue dog color toggle
>she copied me
>I had an idea for angel model nothing written down or shown
>months later sinder showed off her angel model
>see sinder keeps coping me
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>>105280048
I want to manhandle krumroll and kiss her all over, especially her cunny
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>>105279758
I'm gonna be honest, I didn't even know who she was before the original allegations dropped, never heard of her because I don't watch twitch indies. But seeing the entire vtuber community dogpile on someone always rubs me the wrong way so I will be checking her out when she returns. Hopefully she doesn't turn out to be boring or annoying.
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>>105280570
>everyone hates this Albert Fish guy so he must be doing something right
Contrarianism is gay and cringe, Anon.
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>>105280587
>>105280605
You were clearly betting pretty hard on nobody else here being familiar with Norm Macdonald's oeuvre so that they wouldn't notice you posted twice in a row. Unfortunately for you, your gambit failed.
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>>105280332
Yeah, but then here she just... admits to lying about it?
So she KNEW about what Red was saying about Spite, and since she wasn't stopping him, and considering her own statements about the others, it's extremely likely she supported him on it.
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>>105280686
Actually no it was a pure coincidence
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>>105279758
FUCK YOUR DOCKY
RELEASE THEM TITTIES
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>>105280686
>Norm Macdonald
I don't know who that is. Did he talk about Fish?
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>>105280692
I'm talking it about more for a laugh. A blue dog and angel/demon models aren't exactly groundbreaking ideas.
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Fucking /lig/gers
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Is this bitch retarded? Redemption is a lot easier to get than sympathy
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>>105279758
Collab with Bao and Shylily when? That would be interesting wouldn’t it? They could like start off and debate each other, and then eventually settle it in a Boxing ring. Then they can get over the bullshit.
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>>105279758
Still with Red
Still dropped
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>>105280692
>Red doesn't tell me everything and makes major business decisions behind my back without telling me but I do know when he's talking mad shit about other people
>also we're back together and he's still my manager
sis... this is supposed to make you look better?
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Can I get the QRD on the Sindstein Files?

Is there anything actually new or pertinent in there or is it just like the last one where it was maybe one short paragraph worth of relevant info everyone already knew that she used ChatGPT to pad the shit out of?
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Worst part about this? I have to see every irrelevant one/two view replying to the thread, Or vaguepost about it.
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>>105279758
Why did she wrote 1000 page long book?
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mean girl culture seems tiring bros, like if you get too into it everyone is wolf but is it really like that?
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>>105280949
It's insanity.
She admits to everything, but also some new things like leaving Trickywi alone in Japan and flying back alone, reveals that she lied in the first apology and now gives the "truth," and then but tries to justify everything with a massive "speculation" section where she pulls out a conspiracy theory about how everyone totally hates her and how it was just a plot to give the evil shylily and nanoless some street cred.
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>>105279758
She's hot but I'm not reading all that shit nor am I going to watch her beyond clips or give her money. I'm just going to coom.
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Sinder is HOT AS FUCK, period end of story. She should keep streaming so our dicks will be happy
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So nano lied about a few things. Not too good for her cause there’s a bunch of screenshots that show that she wasn’t pressured or forced

Sinder kept trying to colllab with silver despite silver rejecting her and ghosting her

Silver was also insecure about Sinder and didn’t want to collab in case Sinder “steals her viewers” banned all mentions of her in stream and discord

Silvers discord mods also apparently pay her to moderate her server and she treats them like shit. Imagine being that much of a cuck. Discord mods are wild

I’m done reading for now but nano looks to be in bad shape, silver and Sinder were both insecure about each other, discord mods hit a new low

Is shylily the mega mind behind her downfall? No idea I’m done reading for now
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>>105281055
I was going to say handsome guys are sincerely nice and chill dudes while hot girls are mean girls but given they're behind vtuber avatars I think it's more like how a friend of mine put her experience in OW competitive back in the day: Platinum league (IE the best players) are really nice but those right below it are the biggest backbiting savages.

IE pretty but not gorgeous middle to upper middle rank girls become backstabbing snakes. That and artist friend said cosplay scene is a den of vipers and vtubing is just digital (and sometimes physical) cosplay, so doesn't surprise me.
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>>105281126
>pay her to moderate her server
HOLY SHIT
PAYING TO BE A JANITOR.
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nobody should be particularly invested in a bunch of mentally ill white e-whores airing out their dirty laundry. Its fun to rubberneck the dumpster fire but white knighting these stinky coochie con sluts isn't really a good use of our limited time on earth
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>>105281095
I was expecting some irl lewds at this point, a bit of a bummer ngl
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>>105281179
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
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>>105281126
>Silvers discord mods also apparently pay her to moderate her server and she treats them like shit.
Wait THEY pay HER?
Okay that's wild
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>>105281160
I don't really get it myself, and never will. It really is a 'you have to be there to understand how the social game works' kind of deal. I just assume that playing too much into it can cause a serious case of stunlock where you see everyone as a snake even if they are not.
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She should allow Bao and Shylily to fuck her pussy with huge dragon dildos as an apology.
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>>105281179
Discord mods in the fucking MUD lol.
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>>105280570
>Hopefully she doesn't turn out to be boring
the most boring basic bitch vtuber you can imagine. even her fansly content is boring.
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>>105279758
>What's the /vt/erdict
nuke mythic talent
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>>105281126
>discord mods hit a new low
there was a bar?
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>>105281179
imagine paying money to be a janny
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>>105281057
Remember all the people saying she'd bounce back from the allegations right after Sindergate first dropped?

Yeah so...
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I don’t care about silver or shylily.

As long as bao keeps slamming her pussy and Sinder returns that’s all I need
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>>105279758
>What's the /vt/erdict
I don't care.
Just hope it doesn't affect the retarded whale too much
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>>105279758
I don't know who this is. I only watch Holo.
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>>105281674
Why comment then?
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>>105281794
OP asked.
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>>105280949
>he wants the quick Reandown
Haha, guess it's time to not hold back
>orphaned and adopted into a Noble family
>final student of a legendary swordsman
>secret son of the mysterious big bad who's actually good
>such a chad that he not only adds every woman to his ever-expanding harem but also the men
>his sister and her friend (who is the royal princess)'s vaginas becomes waterfalls at the sheer mention of his name
>chosen to pilot an ancient super mecha
>masters and can fully control his *psh nothin personell kid" demonic powers
>wields a tachi and can teleport behind you
>beats one of the most powerful swordsmen in history that's hyped up in Trails in the Sky
>grows up to become a teacher, can romance his underage students
>just saying "haha" makes everybody drop their pants for him
>uses the power of friendship to defeat the true antagonist interdimensional hatred curse that appears at the last second
>is technically royalty, his biological father is the reincarnation of an ancient Emperor
>breaks up budding romances between other characters that were developing in the third game because everybody sucks his dick in the fourth game
>even the protagonists of previous games hype him up
>kills himself in a noble self sacrifice with his fujobait boyfriend to break a curse but not really because the even bigger bigger villains rewrite the timeline to get the true ending
>becomes one of the strongest characters on the continent
>has the option to cuck Estelle away from Joshua, Tita away from Agate, Tio away from Lloyd, etc.
>now a version of himself from an alternate timeline is trying to kill him because he's too chad
>awakens a new inner power to combat this alternate self, giving him heterochromia in the process
>tops Japanese official popularity polls, brought his franchise to the spotlight,
>made it so that the majority of the franchise's games are about him
>is the writer's favorite character, writer goes on to call the previous protagonists embarrassing
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>>105281870
Pointless comment. If you only watch Holo, just say nothing.
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>>105281522
I've found myself caring a lot less about Shylily as time goes on but I do give her credit for being one of the few big indies who has consistently avoided letting the fame get to their head and turning into an absolute raging fucktard.
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>>105281973
No
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You know you fucked up when the literal alcoholic schizo chuuba is dragging your ass.
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like 99% of her fans, I only ever watched her to jack off, I don't know why she thought her reputation mattered enough to stop after the drama in the first place
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>>105282109
>implying that's a valid point
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>>105279758
I would have liked her if she doubled down on being an evil whore and embraced the heel role which no one else in the oversaturated market of vtubing wants to be thus leaving it an untapped niche which would have helped her stand out from all the other dime a dozen pretend innocent twitchthots but no she still wants to be the good guy just like everyone else, when really they're all whores. She could have been the one honest one but no, sad.

She could have told that whole clique to go fuck themselves and it would have done gangbusters, she could have fed off the energy of hatewatchers forever but now after the initial bump of her redebut where people tune in out of curiosity for the drama they're not gonna stick around because in trying to salvage her reputation she went back on the one thing that could have given her career legs.
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ok I dont want to read your schizophrenic rrats, can someone just give me a concise faithful summary of the document?
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>>105279962
You missed the 300 pages ranting about how, unrelated to the actual drama at hand, its really mean that silvervale keeps ignoring her and doesnt want to be her friend (and maybe... lover...?)
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>>105282326
Women acting like women
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>>105282326
scroll up and read the perfectly good summaries already posted in the thread you fucking doofus
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>>105282342
Lover? She's staying with red after all of this that says enough
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>>105282109
>Paki
Opinion discarded.
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>>105282394
Red is a useless simp, she admits that she cheated on him multiple times and shes only happy with the relationship when he is paying for her rent and food.
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>>105282326
sinder is a bitch
nano is a bitch
silver is a bitch and makes her mods pay her
shylily is a mega bitch
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>>105282394
This is exactly what people should be paying attention to instead of being schizo about the inter-personal relationships of a bunch of catty women. The shit with Red shows such an absolute lack of good judgement I truly cant imagine who would be willing to work with them in the future or sup[port any future business endeavors
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>>105282318
this, surprised she doesn't know hate has been profitable on the internet for the last decade (especially the last 3 to 5 years). Maybe she's just extra dumb? She could've easily turned heel, work the hatewatchers and fapwatchers, keep around 50% to 80% of her viewer volume (and maybe go beyond 100%!), and most importantly, work the other vtuber whores into a shot. If american politics already do it, nothing is sacred babyyy
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1000 pages of images and not a single page of NSFW art as a thank-you for scrollin through all this shit. disappointing.
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>>105282318
>>105282554
As far as I’m aware, nobody ever turned heel. Every single celebrity involved in drama wants to be the good guy. I don’t think humans are capable of being just bad. We all want to be seen as good
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10K google dockey when?
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Her pussy was demonically possessed making her do evil wicked bad man things
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>>105282109
>look guys! I-I owned her!!! please react to my tweet
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>>105282740
her argument is actually "I didn't do anything wrong and if I did it was Red and if it wasn't they deserved it and if they didn't they're actually secretly out to get me"
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>>105279758
>What's the /vt/erdict
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>>105282645
Slim Shady built a career off of being a heel until switching up in the late 2000s. It works when you frame your opposition and other celebreties as being fake and evil while you're honestly evil.

Also Fred Durst, also Nickelback only stayed relevant due to hating on them becoming a meme which allowed them to maintain notoriety long after most of their alt rock contemporaries faded from the spotlight, they even admit in an interview they're glad they were hated because it was either that or become irrelevant.
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>reading through, barely paying attention
>see Sinder and Red flew back to the US from Japan, but left Trickywi there
>literally no one is bringing this up
I'm laughing so fucking hard
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About wut
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>>105279758
Other bitches won't escalate cause it'll cost them viewers. She won't escalate cause she got nothing substantial to truly retaliate with. We're at impasse.
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>>105279758
I didn't read a single word of it but agree that shylily's a piece of shit.
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>>105279758
I do appreciate Sinder for proving my suspicions that all vtubers are lying, grifting whores that actually have bfs or are married and just milk the unicorn experience for monetary gain from losers. Which is based and very business-pilled desu
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>>105282953
feel like only men can do heels well. any good female heels?
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>>105279758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HttF5HVYtlQ
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>>105282953
But are there any celebrities that were seen as good, got cancelled, accepted that and turned heel? I don’t know a single one. Also a lot of historical figures that did some really messed up stuff always justified it, so do serial killers and rapists
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Shylily is sexier so I will side with her
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>>105283078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg59q4puhmg
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>>105283139
Arguably Kanye West, but typically only in kayfabe like wrestling or music specifically rap where amongst female rappers they're all competing for who can be the biggest "bad bitch" who steals the other girl's men, and since vtubing is all about kayfabe too it should work here as well.
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>>105279758
She's broke and needs to be relevant in current drama again so her paypiggies allow her to postpone that wagie job for a few more months
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>>105279758
Just show your tits you dumb whore. It's that easy.
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>>105283179
>Shylily is sexier
I'm gonna need some proof anon.
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>>105280914
It doesn't
sinder just has a talent for shoving a foot in her mouth.
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>>105282455
Actual beta make behavior in the wild. Must have his nuts in a vice
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>>105281057
I mean i would fucking loathe her too if she left me stranded alone in a foreign asian country.
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Can Silver ever catch a break?
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>>105283422
Look at her
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>>105283602
I hope so. She’s been through more than she ought to have been
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>>105279758
Sinder has big fat tits and ass irl so she is in the right
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>What's the /vt/erdict
Sinder should do a CB stream and have at least 3 hours of rough lesbian sex with every girl involved in this shitfest. Also at least 1 hour of hatefucking with shylily.
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>>105279758
I believe her.
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>>105279758
This drama is so devoid of any of its combatants providing evidence or even concrete accusations that to this day I still don't even know what Sinder was accused of beyond "she is le evil bitch". This whole thing just seems like people calling each other evil witches, and a lot of people getting mad over being cucked, but allegedly the cuckening is not what this drama is supposed to be about, despite it being all anyone actually cares about.
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>>105283294
The only problem with this is money. You can argue West moved on successfully, but he lost pretty big brand deals and a lot of connections, not to mention he's now labelled as a retarded schizo far past his expiration date. Sinder could give a big fuck you to everyone she was involved with, but I don't imagine that burning bridges with the biggest names in the indie scene (who are also going to be in full control of the narrative at that point) is the smartest decision money-wise, because you can't really expect that only /vt/-adjacent goonerfags will keep her lights on.

Unless she wants to live with her parents forever.
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None of this needed to be the big deal it turned into. This should've been the girls getting together privately, talking about it, and deciding privately to not deal with her further.

Sinder fucked up but being a bitch shouldn't end your career or have the entire community dunking on you for clout.
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>>105279758
I trust Yuzu over everyone else.
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>>105280605
You are on the contrarian website
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>>105282825
this, nothing more pathetic then dogpiling on someone to leech.
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>1000 fucking pages
No apology that shows so little respect for my time deserves my respect
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>>105284112
Yeah, feels like Shylily wanted to test out her ability to mobilize her online army along with stringing others along which, as it turns out, was very powerful
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>>105284119
The point is compared to the alternative it actually is her best chance. Apologizing to the cancel mob never works it just makes things worse, not apologizing and sticking to your guns has worked for various internet celebrities, comedians, influencers, and political commentators over the years. Even if your audience still shrinks it doesn't shrink as much as it does for those who grovel and bow their head instead.
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>>105284271
Bao?
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the funny thing is that she's probably completely right about how these whores colluded and "masterminded" her downfall... but she completely deserved it and nobody will believe her anyway kek. just a case of one sociopath running into another sociopath who has more power.

it's just insane how every single indie whore is a selfish whore with dog-eat-dog mindset
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>>105284280
So I looked into it, and apparently the accusations come out to: "She was talking mad shit about other vtubers behind their backs trying to cancel projects and shit" and their response is to talk mad shit about her in public trying to cancel her projects and shit?
Why the fuck is anyone taking this drama seriously? It's a fucking nothingburger of catty bitches going at each other for no reason.
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>evil bitch does evil things thinking she is untouchable
>people band together to fight back and stop it
>retards think this is le bad for some reason

why are you such cucks? kek no wonder bad people just do what they want. the natural state of so many people is to just bend over and take it, and get uppity on behalf of the abuser when someone decides enough is enough. retards
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>>105279962
Thanks for that anon you are a hero and she is still a zero
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>>105284364
>>105284395
>noooooooo!!!!!! you can't expose the backstabbing whore talking shit about you and actively working to kill your career while pretending to be your friend!!!!!!!
Why are you tards like this?
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>>105284482
I mean sure, but I'm not your personal army, fuckhead. Why should I give a shit about this nothingburger?
And you know I have no reason to care, because you motherfuckers keep not mentioning what this shit is about on purpose because you know there is nothing of substance to accuse. You just keep talking like it's the biggest fucking scandal on earth while not actually mentioning the meat of the topic, because these fucking lemmings eat that shit up and follow suit because they don't know what you're talking about but want to pretend they do.
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>>105280093
I genuinely now believe that the sinder schizo who was posting those insane "she's innocent threads" here for months after the drama was really just her doing it herself
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>>105279758
She didn't really debunk much and her accusations are iffy.
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>>105279758
I forgive her
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Sinder got called up by Shylily and Bao to create drama because they're yesterday's news with Saba and Nimi existing.
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What's funny is Red still being with her despite getting publicly outed as having been cucked. What a sad situation.
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>>105284524
You cared enough to call them all awful catty whores for talking to each other and publicly exposing her. Funny how you stick your tail between your bitchass legs and back off barking some shit about not caring when questioned on that retarded statement.
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>>105284564
go back napkek
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>>105284582
Are they not catty bitches? Seems like everyone involved is one. Sinder thinks people want to read her 1k pages of nothing over this nothingburger she could've just said "yeah I did it, suck my futa cock" and no-one would care. Whoever the fuck else is dogpiling her thinks anyone cares she DMs people saying mean things to them. So much so they shit all over the catalog and flood the YT recs with stupid fucking videos talking mad trash without bothering to specify what the mad trash is even about.
Catalog drama usually has some interesting meat to it. I'm mad that all you fuckers involved wasted my time with this shit.
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>>105284537
Was 1000 pages really necessary?
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>>105284716
It's necessary to keep talking about Bao, Shylily and the others.

Nice of Sinder to help them get out of irrelevance.
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>>105284716
God no. She could've just heel turned and said "what are you dumb bitches even babbling about" and been fine.
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>>105279758
Should've doubled down and drop fire diss mixtape. If you're going to play heel have some decency to do it right.
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someone post her lewd ASMR
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>>105284763
just look it up on coomer or something
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>>105284763
What lewd ASMR?
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>>105279758
Would have been better if she didn't respond at all and just started posting more coomer content. Coomers don't care about your poor character if you have a model with fat tits and moan into a microphone.

I'd know, I am one.
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>>105279758
guilty of wasting the court's time
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>>105285040
in case you're wondering, death sentence
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>>105280686
>Ruh roh, two similar things, they MUST be connected
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>>105285040
Will the soon to come tag team 10 page google dockey per vtuber that doesn't like Sinder which totals up to 1000 pages going over the same nothingburger shit change your mind?
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>>105284884
>>105284856
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>>105279758
define verbosity
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>>105285141
all appeals will be denied
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>>105285146
There's nothing on there that's ASMR related, anon.
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>>105280570
No you won't lol
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She did nothing wrong and bao and her friend are a bunch of twitch whores
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>>105285031
Same. I don't give a FUCK how you treat the other whores or what drama you're involved in, I just wanted to see her model's fat jugs jiggle in the open while she wrecks her hole and dirty talks. It was that fucking easy and she couldn't get it right, even before the whore war.
Silvervale is at least doing it slightly better but still fucking sucks at it, just posting MMD shit made by her simps and then using a low-detail cartoony model for her fansly streams instead of showing off the fat tits of the high quality models everyone actually wants to jack off to.
There's nothing worse than a whore who can't do her one job right.
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>>105279758
1000 pages of nothing. It really shouldn't have took half a year to write this. pyrocuck money must be running out and she needs to return to streaming before she goes homeless.
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Cuboon
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>>105280949
Just proving she's a lying bitch as expected. She's completely schizophrenic.
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I don't care. I never cared. I occasionally watched her and jorked my peanits to her fansly stuff, I will continue to do so if or when she comes back.
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>>105280949
>Can I get the QRD on the Sindstein Files?
1. It's mad ramblings about shit that has basically nothing to do with anything.
2. She's extremely obsessed with Silvervale and brings her up constantly.
3. It's packed full of weird spellings, grammatical errors and crap. If she wrote this her self she was either high or drunk as fuck.
4. She confirms everything she did but also added some stuff we didn't even know like ditching Tricky in Japan.
5. She contradicts herself several times.
6. She says she's still working with Red so her first round of "apologies" was a complete lie.
7. The majority of the text is just her saying "they hate me, I'm so sad and I am guilty but it's not my fault"

Etc etc. She basically did what she originally did but way worse. WAY worse.
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>>105285500
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>>105285644
Should have pulled a Cite Bat, then it would have worked.
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>>105284465
the chimps who use TVA and /#/ and other such hives of scum hate "westoid whores" and support anything that goes against them
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How is it possible to contradict yourself this quickly?
Was she on the fent train while writing this?
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>>105279918
Ok Red.
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>>105282342
Oh no she doesn’t want to be friend with someone she doesn’t like as a person who also turned out to be an ass. Get a life schizo, that’s absolutely normal social behaviour.
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>>105285757
Red was fucking Sinder while typing all this shit
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>>105285757
>Red did not tell Nano to not work with Silver
>I agreed with Red to tell Nano not to work with Silver
Also why does Red hate Bao? Did he fear the whale would fuck Sinder and not let him watch?
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>>105285644
>extremely obsessed with Silvervale
She mentions Silver over 300 times in the doc.
Most of it is "we could have made so much money together" and "I was always trying to contact her but she kept ignoring me".

Literal stalker behavior. Picrel for example.
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>>105279758
>cheats on red
>"I forgive him"
she's literally the "woman moment" in person
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>>105285893
>people are mad she only used her "friends" for money
>she spends her doc that's supposed to clear her of those kinds of accusations whining about how Silver didn't let her to use her for money
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>>105279758
She needs to stop dooming and come back to streaming as a big titty bad bitch.
Honestly I think 95% of her viewers don't really give a fuck and would still watch her lol.
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>>105285990
She should focus on Fansly content, her Irl jiggle has amazing potential
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>>105285990
And would also like to add that there are streamers on Twitch pulling thousands of viewers that had pretty much 100% proven allegations of raping someone on twithcon on sexting minor fans, and they have been keep on streaming for years lol.
And Sinder is "done" because of some seething vtuber roasties getting angry about muh betrayal?
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>>105285869
Red was watching Sinder get plowed while typing this malformed manuscript
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>>105285990
I google anime titty and get one billion results
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>>105286049
Red secretly sabotaging her
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>>105285959
And openly admits to sabotaging silver.
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>>105286092
And then tries to say "it wasn't malicious, it was because..uh like rare trading cards..uh too many not good ok"

At this point I'm convinced she has a split personality, both sides fighting while writing this shit.
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>>105286114
Either that or she took turns with ol' Red writing this, lmao
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>>105286065
Holy rrat potential

>Sinder fully logged off after dropping the half baked apology throwing Red under the bus for damn near everything
>Red saw this as the last straw after the cheating, spent the next 5 months creating this 1000 page schizo rant and tweeted it out on Sinder's account which he would most likely have access to being her manager
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>>105286114
>Nano's models are all [...] extremely unique
What? Not even hating, but they all look the fucking same. She has a very distinctive style with little variation
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>>105286092
>more about Red hating Bao's guts
Does this dockey explain that?
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>>105286197
Nope. Just "his feelings for Bao makes me uncomfortable".
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>>105279843
michiking
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I've skimmed through most of it now and basically the whole thing is her furiously masturbating over Silvervale fantasies, admitting to all her wrongdoings but also justifying them by blaming everyone else but herself, random rants and arguing with herself every other page.
8/10, would make a perfect manifesto for a crazy murder/suicide pact.
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>>105279758
https://youtu.be/hUg8IL-D7c0?si=FkGsOqd-_BuvMvoE&t=13
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>>105286301
God I love the dog.
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>>105286147
I believe
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>>105286297
This 1000 page dockey would be a great finisher to a corpo tier drama that actually started by being about something. Sinder sounds fucking unhinged.
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The more of this shit I read, the funnier it gets.
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>>105286422
KEK holy shit, this is so much worse then the first one
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>>105286481
All 1000 pages are like that. Every single page.
It's one of the worst schizo rantings I've ever seen. if someone told me it was a 4chan copy pasta written by some dude in a basement meth lab I would honestly believe it.
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>>105286543
I bet everyone will forgive and forget now
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>>105279758
>yes i sabotaged my firends
>i'm sorry but that's just the business
>come on my stream next friday
and half on internets would kneel, other half doesn't matter
>>105280079
>Whore Clan
whut now?
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>>105286622
Unfortunately she's a schizo stalker who wants Silvervale to ??? with her, so instead she spewed 1000 pages of self-contradictory schizobabble so Silvervale might understand and stop ghosting her.
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We didn't need a 1000pages doc to know everyone one of them (including Sinder) were backstabbing bitches ready to jump on drama to get attention
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>>105286133
she did, the passages highlighted in light blue are from red. it's made explicit in the doc.
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>>105286654
Bao is a good girl
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>>105286654
We did however need a 1000 page dockey to understand how Sinder is a schizo who blows up Silvervale's DMs with unsolicited requests while she's getting ghosted.
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>ONE THOUSAND FUCKING PAGES
What the fuck is wrong with this woman? She came off as such a giant normalfag when she streamed too.
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>>105286707
She is clearly having a schizophrenic meltdown over the months or red typed this up and posted it.
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>>105285860
You're right but you failed to pick up the sarcasm somehow. Your ass is somehow using common core to solve logic puzzles
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>>105280914
>uhm sweaty they TALKED things out like y'know ADULTS DO
>Hes not going to be involved with her business anymore!
Like I dont even need to read the rest of the document. Yet people will defend this stupid shit. Her sticking together with someone she cheated on and effectively ruined her. And AFTER she threw him under the bus is insane to me how can you bother to take anything in this average leftist meme seriously after the opening says shes back together with Red who helped co write this shit?
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Any new art of her with a straitjacket in a padded cell?
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>>105286750
There's zero fucking chance a man typed this.
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This feels like she’s having her own Jekyll and Hyde moment. Is this Red in the room with us right now?
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This isn't a public apology, nor is this a well-crafted exposé. This is a delusional creative writing project where she is the main character, and everyone else is the villain of her story. She even threw her bf under the bus AGAIN to paint herself in a better light. Wow, so humble of you to give him another chance at the relationship while you admitted to sexting other men. What a great person you are, Sinder.
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I like how obvious it is that at least half the posts here are made by vtubers.
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kinda crazy she's still letting that dude fuck her tits
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>>105286906
It’s pretty funny when you think about it lol
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>>105286785
get the drawfags on this
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I still don’t get WHY the fuck is she obsessed with sliver
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>>105287018
my rrat is that she's a bisexual that had crush on Silver
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>>105279758
Both sides are terrible. No that isn't some centrist take. They're literally both ethots that are hungry for fame.
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>>105287053
that's bullshit but i believe it
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>>105279758
Women sure love to pull the victim card.
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>>105287063
Thing is anon lily is wildly more popular than sinder and nano is already popular with how many people use her model so that makes zero sense. All the other girls like cotton, bao, sliver, zen, and other nano model holders are still really fucking popular so they didn’t need to mean girl sunder but sinder felt the need because her bf of years is
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>>105287069
More belivable rrat is that she's a sociopath and Silver became her obsession due to also being a wolfgirl
but becasue Silver rejected her and Sinder never had anyone reject her in her life before, Sinder became obsessed with her and when she couldn't have her as a friend she decided she would make her life as misreable as possible
but also when you look how Sinder treated her supposed friends like Bao, Numi or Tricky it doesn't matter if you were Sinder's friend or enemy becasue she treated you the same lol
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>>105286707
I think being a vtuber probably wasn't good for her mental health and being 'cancelled' like this, especially because of the way it happened, made things way worse. I wonder if she got back with red because she had nobody else to go to and couldn't make it on her own.
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>>105279758
Western whores ruined vtubing
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>>105287126
>lily is wildly more popular than sinder
Before the whole thing Sinder was only slightly behind in viewers and way ahead in how much money she was making.
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>>105287184
Think is lily has more followers than sinder like millions more
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>>105287132
>but becasue Silver rejected her and Sinder never had anyone reject her in her life before, Sinder became obsessed with her
betting 10 bucks that sinder grew up without a father figure
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>>105287215
not true
She has a dad that even appeared on her stream once
she gave him and her mom models too
like bitch came from loving functional family and STILL turned out like the way she did
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>>105279758
women
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>>105286906
always has been
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>>105287148
Nice
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>>105280570
So true Red, so true!
All those evil whores dogpiled on her for nothing!
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>>105287126
>They don't need to meangirl Sinder
You know nothing of women
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ligger is an another name for a cuck
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If she blames Red for almost everything it's clear that relationship is detrimental to both of them. The sex can't be that good.
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Don't really care. She could have said nothing and still came back pussy smelling of roses. Shylily has dealt with hate watchers her entire career so what's a few more to make cope and seethe.

I'm just hoping this doesn't disrupt michi's vacation with her girlfriend.
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>>105287248
>like bitch came from loving functional family and STILL turned out like the way she did
then I guess mommy and daddy spoiled their little princess a little too much
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>>105284529
I mean the number of screenshot compilations we have gotten in the last year showing how many vtubers frequent this board you could probably be arguing with the chuuba themselves when you go to a related thread
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>cosplayer turns out to be a mentally ill, schizo, backstabbing bitch who grooms underage boys
Is anyone surprised?
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>>105287432
that's probably the case
she never had to deal with rejection or loss in her life so when Silver rejected her it made her go mental
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>>105279758
>get accused of shit
>post a phony sounding sorry
>disappear for months
>come back with a totally new google doc that's basically a no u
yeah, x to doubt. if this was all real, she'd post the doc rather than the sorry post, instead of disappearing for a few months to forge a document.
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>>105287435
How much you want to bet Pippa is in the thread RIGHT NOW
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>>105279758
I honest to god give 0 fucks about the high school mean girl clique drama. I just want her and her huge tits to come back so she can continue doing fansly streams and porn asmr
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>>105287568
and even here, even anonymously, she still won't reply to alana. kek.
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>>105287568
Pippa? Did Pippa have any beef with sinder????
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>>105279758
was an obsessed petty bitch, now is an even more desperate, even more obsessed petty bitch.
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>>105287365
Even the girl's boyfriends are cucks because she can't be faithful
Grim
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>>105279962
It might be autism, it might be BPD, it might be PTSD from childhood emotional abuse, but something is causing her to have the type of overexplaining dysfunction often seen related to those conditions.
She honestly feels like she's thinking if she explains enough that everyone will understand she's not a villain. She is incapable of contritely taking responsibility without couching it in some suggestion that someone else pushed her into it.

Not to say that the others are innocent. Nano looks like she was manipulative in her own girlfailure way.
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>>105286543
How else would Red fund Sinders high life while she isn't streaming?
Of course it was written in a basement meth lab lol.
Fuck 'em both.
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>>105287593
Nah but everyone loves drama, I wouldn’t be surprised if all of the girls are in here
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>>105287586
Alana's too scared to come /here/ after she saw that one post shipping her with her brother
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Vtuber drama is fucking unbearable. Google doc after Google doc. Now we have a fucking Don Quixote/Bible-sized google doc. Just fucking record a video you lazy cunts.
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>>105280570
Every single hellhound girl vtuber i've seen is the same "spicy" basic bitch innuendo spouting cardboard cutout with a mind numbing chat.
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>>105287734
>writes 1000 pages
>lazy
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>>105287734
Just don’t take it personally anon
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>>105281126
>Silvers discord mods also apparently pay her to moderate her server and she treats them like shit. Imagine being that much of a cuck. Discord mods are wild
Come on man you can't drop something like this without the supporting screenshots or page number
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>>105287756
Except Spite.
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>>105281126
>Silvers discord mods also apparently pay her to moderate her server and she treats them like shit.
that makes me like Silver though
She doesn't let discord groomers get close to her and makes them pay to even interact with her
so many vtuber mods are powertripping faggots and Silver is keeping a leash on hers
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>>105282318
Milking hatewatchers is fun and profitable until
A: one of them goes schizo enough to hunt you down at your home or workplace or event appearance and goes stab stab stab
or
B: the constant barrage of mean comments and unsubstantiated death and rape threats drag your girl mental down to the gutter where you have a panic attack or nervous breakdown
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How schizo would you rate Sinder as from 1 to 10?
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>>105287940
999
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>>105287940
11
she wrote 300 pages on Silver alone
not even biggest stalkers that Silver had in the past dropped dockeys that long
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>>105287979
>failed lawyer that grifts e-whore drama
yeah that's what I expected
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>>105287979
He didn't say whether Sinder was the plaintiff or defendant in such a hypothetical case...
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>>105287979
Yea she isn’t filing shit because that will lead to discovery and that will fuck her up
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>>105287940
She wrote a 1000 page document man. She's definitely above a 5 and the actual final spot is dependent on how crazy she sounds when I read it
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>>105288015
He is poking fun at the schizo ramblings, daring Sinder "to prove she is talking real shit" by encouraging her to sue all the "slanderers".

He is friends with Silvervale and few others.
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>>105279758
she's like that one pic with a diagram of men saying "sorry" as being a short arrow pointing at it, and for the girl it's a long meandering line that ties itself up into a cloud of knots, almost hits the 'sorry' but then just goes and says 'fuck.' that is exactly her reaction.
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>>105287734
What's the matter? Don't you like high school Vtuber drama?
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>>105279962
I odn't wanna defend her, but I ain't believing anyone trying to summarize a 1k pages doc, the amount of people actually reading that shit is abyssmal
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>>105288062
maybe this is her strategy
make dockey so fucking long that nobody will read it and when somebody confronts her she will go
>did you read my document??
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>>105288056
If you have even a little bit of a life outside of vtubers you shouldn’t get upset unless you’re following sinder
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>>105279758
Sinder won
Shitlily is a fucking bitch that has to be stopped
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>>105288079
>Ding ding ding
Exactly
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Does her obsession with Silvervale literally just come from the fact they both have vtuber models with wolf ears?
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>>105288093
lol calm down schizopup from Discord
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>muh discord
Go back retard
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>>105287985
>Wrote 300 pages on silvervale alone
Sinder wrote a biography. She should publish it as a stand alone book titled "rent free, where silvervale resides" by sinder
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>>105288080
>following a whore
Lmao, i'm enjoying the show
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>>105279758
All fucking twitch whores must fucking hang
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>>105287660
It's an old rule in sales that the longer you can keep talking to a potential customer, the more likely it is you make that sale. It's part building that rapport with the person. It's part making them feel like the only way out of the conversation is to agree with you. It's part just plain loss aversion: "I just spend 2 hours talking to this guy, I'd better end up with a vacuum cleaner to justify the trouble."
Sure, maybe she has some psychological predisposition to talking far past the point it's rational to. But plenty of psychologically damaged people accidentally and independently discover successful coping mechanisms, especially ones that harm others. And the psychologically damaged people that survive the longest are the ones with the most well-adapted coping mechanisms.
At some point, it doesn't matter whether it's deliberate or not. The sea cares not whether it's salty, you are still an idiot for drinking it.
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>>105288079
Someone with tism will read it
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>>105279758
wasted model
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>>105288343
I currently have a chuuba as background noise reading through it
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>>105279962
you forgot the small part about her being obsessed with silvervale
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>>105288431
>I currently have a chuuba
who?
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>>105279758
>twitch whore drama
lol
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Someone post the picture of her wearing her models outfit. She's hot
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>>105279758
She did nothing wrong!!!
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>>105288469
NTA but Deme is reading it
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Can someone explain her hyper fixation with Silver please? I understand idolising another streamer and wanting to work with her but this goes beyond that into unhinged stalker territory when it's clear she doesn't want to talk to you.
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>Sinder decides to outsource half of her comms
>Blows up in her face
>Does it again
Why?
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>>105288974
Sinder is a sociopath that wanted to use Silver to make money
She talked how she wanted Silver and her to make group merch together etc but Silver declined
Rejection caused Sinder stalk Silver even harder which boils down to
>WHY WON'T YOU BE MY FRIEND
even though Silver said multipule times that she doesn't like transactional friendships
Sinder decided that if she can't use Silver then she will make her life as hard as possible by making artist cancel her models and artwork
She even wanted Gamersupps to drop Silver but at this point Silver was too big of a name in there
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>>105279758
>Admits to having a boyfriend and lying to her audience at the start of the file
Guilty on all counts. I don't need to read the rest
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>>105279843
cluseller so I can anti her even more
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>>105281179
If this is real then those people need to be sent to labor camps until they can no longer work and then executed. Literally sub-subhuman
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>>105288047
dramafags don't have friends
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>>105287831
>Maybe they wanted to mod for me because my server was a much more inviting place to be by Mod #1’s account shown in this section above, or maybe because Silver started making them pay her to have the privilege of the job, and apparently abused them when they only tried helping her.
Page 210.
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>>105289153
where? I'm in the Silvervale chapter and it's nothing about mod on page 210 there
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Ok so it either moved or I'm fucking blind but I saw it as 210.
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I just want my face between her fat tits.
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I'm at page 1 and i'm already dragging my feet reading this. Just a quick question. Spoiler said red assisted sinder and yet she blames everything to him? Is he a fucking masochist?
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>>105280875
Redemption takes a long time and doesn't convince everyone just some. Pity and sympathy is quick and easy if she just points the finger back
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>>105289275
She cheated on him before and even admits to it, he's as much a cuck as her fans
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>>105289275
of course she blames everything on him
when it comes to Bao she writes how it was Red that didn't like Bao and she
>didn't know about it
and then changes it to
>didn't let Bao know about how Red felt about her
so she says she didn't know but then she writes how she didn't let Bao know implying she knew
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>>105289373
Pottery
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>>105289153
>apparently abused them when they only tried helping her.
I'm betting $1000 this mod was power tripping out of his mind and the alleged "abuse" was Silver making them stop.
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>>105289482
most likely he was also a groomer too and Silver shut him down
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>>105279758
One of the funniest posts I've read on /vt/ came courtesy of this race that I otherwise have no horse in.
>wow, fucking CASUALS and SECONDARIES aren't gonna read 1000 pages of this?
>tch, I can't believe how long I'm going to have to spoonfeed you guys about this one...
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>multiple people itt are actually reading the two novels' worth of docky
oh my fuck lmfao

vtubing was such a huge mistake
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ireading
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>>105285990
If she comes back, she'll be a low 3 view at most
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>>105289573
I mean you're on 4chan, clearly you also have nothing better to do. Some people are probably using this as a change of pace rather than shit posting all morning
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No way you fags are actually reading this shit. Even dark romance books for housewives would be a better read.
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>>105289531
Because it makes me want to fuck them hard, both literally and metaphorically
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>>105289646
Oh, brother. Browsing 4chan over my morning coffee at work and spending hours poring over thousands of pages of literal he-said-she-said are maybe just a little bit different.
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>>105289648
Nobody is reading this besidies like 5 people
Sinder's reputation is ruined and nothing will bring it back
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>>105279758
just read a fucking novel instead (this doesn't even account for images)
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>>105289275
He is a cuck, wouldn’t be surprised if she has bulls fuck her as red is writing up the doc
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>>105289573
Well someone needs to tell you what you think about it
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>>105289648
I hope at least one person had an epiphany that they could be reading quite literally anything else right now.
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>>105289745
You are God's bravest soldier, truly.
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>>105289573
Someone is going make money off it
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How would (You) fix Sinder?
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>>105289777
Oh, of course. As if we even need those trips to know this was true.
All of those drama channels probably feel like next month's rent just fell out of the sky, into their laps.
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>>105289799
pregnancy fixes every woman
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>>105279758
Western women are a waste of time
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>>105289799
Mind wipe her
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>>105289648
I don't believe it either. At least reading stuff like the tile fucker was fun and far shorter.
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>>105289913
This latest crop of anons is kinda completely fucking insane, I've noticed.
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The Silvervale section is pure schizo kino. I recommend it.
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The solution is simple: all parties involved are to be pilloried and spanked for eight hours. That will make everything even.
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You could fit three Silmarillions in this docky
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>>105289940
Does it paint Silver in a bad light?
I like Silver
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>>105279758
This woman is insane in the head, idk what else to say after seeing a 1k GD.
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>>105290030
Sinder is obsessed with her yet Silver's biggest crime was just not wanting to associate with her. She spends over 200 pages schizoing out over it.
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>>105290030
No, it's the most self-incriminating part of the whole thing. In it Sinder reveals she's as unhinged as the average resident schizo who habitually shits out anti threads /here/.
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Silver is exactly the same kind of person as Sinder. I remember when she quit Vshojo and spent half a stream throwing passive aggressive remarks at Ironmouse just because she apparently didn't put enough effort into reaching out to Silver for collabs.
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So does this dockey solidify Sinder as a unsalvageable lolcow?
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>>105290148
>In it Sinder reveals she's as unhinged as the average resident schizo who habitually shits out anti threads /here/.
Most of them are like this. :/
t. vtuber
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>>105290150
Being fair what we learned about how she was treated afterward and the context surrounding how her fellow vshojo members had been treating her (being misled themselves) makes that make way more sense. She gets a pass on that

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>>105290088
Kinda funny then, okay. I’m not reading it still but that makes sense
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>>105290201
Well obviously, considering most of the people posting /here/ are vtubers. Would be incredibly unsurprising if the majority of the resident schizos are just vtubers "pretending" to be a schizo fan crashing out in order to put mental pressure on another /here/tuber in order to serve some batshit social scheme.
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>>105290299
Shut up I’m not a vtuber
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>>105284119
The bridges were already burned, they're not letting her back in so she might as well have told them FU from the beginning instead of this half-measure bull and I would have been a lot more impressed
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>>105289640
People will tune in to the return stream out of curiosity because everyone including haters and dramafags want to see what happens but in the long run she's gonna have a fraction of the actual audience she had before. The return is gonna be huge at first tho
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>>105285500
she says in the doc the she reactively stopped talking to him for a month and she made the announcement in a panic
it could very well be she meant this at the time, but she clearly made up with him
This is literarily nothing
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>>105290734
Thanks for the clarification Sinder
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>>105290734
>I totally stopped talking to the manager boyfriend I live with for a while after the drama
>yeah, I still live with him, he's still my boyfriend, and he's still my manager
>but trust me, bro
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>>105279843
She probably needs a complete image change at this point, so henreader
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Is it true she rapes fans at cons and milks them??
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>>105289799
Give her the trolley problem on one line is all her viewers and the other Red and tell her to pick
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>>105279962
Holy KEK



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