What do men actually want from a vtuber?
>>105304550they say men are easyjust be nice to thembut how easy is it to just be nice to them?for many women, the simple act of being nice to themis actually quite hard
>>105304550Chihaya is my gold standard.>does all of her streams as a way to help her audience feel better after a long day>respectful of her coworkers and audience (ignoring antis, not falling into drama or shutting down drama quickly)>GFE (though this can be used at the vtubers discretion, I know not all of them like doing GFE)>if doing GFE, don't go back on it. Either commit or quit>works hardThis is why I love Chihaya and this would make vtubing much better if more followed in her tracks
>>105304550Laugh at my shitty jokesSay my name out loudthat's it...
>>105304550Ara-ara.Then men cum and never come back afterwards.
>>1053047092views is your answerjust hop insay hello or somethingthey'll call out your name for free
>>105304669for me, it's muzu
>>105304550https://files.catbox.moe/u5gzxa.mp4
>>105304669suck my fucking dick dude what are you mumbling about you don't really believe this
>>105304550Any combination or sufficient subset of the union of what Mio, AZKi, Cece or Gigi are doing.>Miomakes me feel warm and fuzzy, she centres my soul and I would die to protect her. The miofa forest is the warmest place, and she does everything she can to keep it that way. I love her, but not in a creepy parasocial way>AZKiis a true professional, gives a variety of games while making sure they enable her unique autism that brings in some really knowledgeable pioneers. Her voice is magic and her GFE is ascendant>Ceceis relatable as fuck, and supporting her on her idol journey has been incredible so far. She also, either intentionally or not, makes me gosling with the power of one thousand suns; I love her in a creepy parasocial way>Gigiis a source of pure joy and whimsy. I can never be mad after watching her. She also feeds my very specific joy of stupid SNS culture that goes beyond shitty reddit memes. Bonus: hottest vtubing model on the internet, I've lose untold gallons
all I really want from a vtuber is that they make me laugh
>>105304550Sex
>>105304550mild gfe with cute girlsjust hanging out and chatting
>>105305042What was wrong with any of what I said? Or are you one of those people who think we should make her collab with dudes to stick it to the unicorns?Fuck you. She's awesome and you can't make her do anything she doesn't want to do
>>105305019This
>>105305130This is honestly it. The more shit you do that doesn't make me laugh and have a fun time coming to your channel, the less I wanto watch or spend money on you. Doing goofy shit, trying your best to bring joy and laughter even if it falls flat sometimes, that's the qualoty I'm looking for now-a-days.I've all but dropped 2 older EN talents because they killed theor humor and funny bits while ramping up trying to suck off the insane retards in their fanbases.
>>105306042Based Chihayanon. Don't let someone tell you what you should and shouldn't believe
>>105305019Understandable
i want a zatsudan chuuba that isnt a normalfag and doesnt do adult works on the sideNothing like a cute girl with a somewhat awkward laugh to make you forget about your shitty day
>>105305206this
be an idolno flesh postingbe a character (many fail this step)be funny (many also fail this step)
>>105304550I want her to think about me when she's not streaming, and no I don't mean chat I mean me specifically.
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>>105304550Be cute, be funny, project an image of being single, and don't publicly interact with men.
>>105304550make me smilemake me laughmake me feel warm and fuzzymake my dick hardin that order
as a musician i tend to gravitate toward chuubas with a burning passion for music and similar music taste as me. especially ones that perform music live.
The streaming stamina and regularity of Koyori.The gaming ability and committment to the bit for the stream experience of Biboo. The sound setup and audio knowledge of Noel.The genuine otaku interests of IRyS, as well as her watchalong reactions.The curiosity, problem solving, initiative, and musical ability of Cecilia.The knowledge of early to mid 2000s alternative music tastes of Mumei.The comedic ability, timing, zatsudan, and artistic talent of Marine.The hosting and MC abilities of Fubuki.The confidence and showmanship of Suisei.The singing ability of Nerissa. The sexuality of ChloeThe knowledge of memes and old internet of Polka.The teasing and voice acting abilities of Azki.The desperation to stay and gratitude of Kiara.The pure energy and willingness of Nene. The slight desperation and knowledge that they will never find anything better in their life than Hololive of all the single hags. The kayfabe and genuine love of their fans of FUWAMOCO.The dancing ability of Hajime (or also Noel).The Unicorn conviction of Kanata.
>>105304550If I just watched Sora and Azki for the rest of my life I would die happy.
>>105304550this
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>>105304550This and it's absolutely disgusting
>>105314387Holy based
>>105304550i just want them to be consistent and not have women moments and shutting down immediately when things go wrong or something happens they don't like.
>>105315701Now I am unironically want this wtf. Am I a sicko for liking the idea of cripple gf?
>>105304550heart boners and dick boners
>>105304550literally just this, forever
*insert that one image about a worker coming home after work and putting a dvd then talking to the lady in the TV*, that stuff got me through the lockdown when I was working in another state away from my family as it happened
I want to watch a kind & cute girl with a nice voice just doing stuff. No sex jokes, no “I’m so autistic” “I’m a femcel”. No talking about irl stress. No “My mom is sick” “I can’t afford rent” stfu act like an anime character. I don’t like when they sexualize themselves. That’s my job. Just pretend you don’t have a bf and be a decent person.If she is motivated I naturally feel motivated to be better, which is a huge plus. I hate chuubas that microdose negativity into my life. I don’t care that you struggle with body image issues. I don’t care your dog is old and dying. Just please act your part.
>>105304550>Streams>An entertaining personality that can keep a conversation going, leaving little dead air.>Likes her work and what she's doing
>>105304550A wifeI say this as someone who actually got to take my oshi (small indie) to dinnerNo seggs tho
>>105304550Be cute and funny and play the games I want to watch. I don't want to watch games I don't like, and I don't give a single fuck about karaokes past the first one
>>105317686 (me)Found it, the thing that sealed the deal for me was that the girl does really talk back to you, that's when I knew this hobby got me, and honestly, it's been fun most of the time.
>>105304550A slutty child
>be cute>be funny>be an otherworldly singer>the more yapping the better
>>105304717i will absolutely cum back
>>105304550karaokeand ace combat
>>105316012they require a lot more energy and patience than you think>fucking NEET ass lazy mediocre slobs who nolifts
>>105304655A woman who is nice to men(plural) is a whore
>>105304550sex
>>105323825Did the definition of nice become have sex with while I wasn't looking?
>>10531570110/10 movie
>>105304550placeholder for a gf
>>105325590I have been patiently waiting for someone to name it, but it looks like the title is being purposefully avoided. I am officially being the dummy... WAT MOOVIE?
>>105304550Femenine penis
>>105326143>hasn't seen it yetwhat are you DOOOIN
I need a background noise because my own thoughts are scary
>>105319365>Pictures for Sad ChildrenExcellent taste.Also, same, and I'm really happy about it too
just be cute. play games and dont remind me of how shitty my life isno donation baiting, no BIG THINGS COMING, no extreme changes, no spending money unnecessarily.easy on the gfe, no relashionship talk, no baby talk, no marriage talk. you can talk about your life and complain to me all you want as long as you do it in a way that keeps you in the same level as me. I just want to clear my head of all my life problems and spend comfy time with someone I like for once in my stupid life
>>105304550Male here. My list is pretty short.1. Be someone who actually enjoys interacting with chat. You don't have to respond to every message, but make us feel like our mesages aren't just being sent into a void.2. Don't be a chud. Younger suburbanite men might fall for it, but those of us with jobs and even a teensy bit of empathy will see right through it.3. Be okay with the fact that you're not going to appeal to everyone. Something about you makes you unique, even if you don't know what it is yet. Lean into that thing and the right audience will come.Bonus: Show feet>>105304655this ain't a uniquely woman thingsome people are just shitty
>>105326326Failing at life, probably. Thanks, BTW. I'll probably watch it after I watch TRON, which I'm rewatching in preparation for the new one.
>>105326761>this ain't a uniquely woman thing>some people are just shittyNTA, but maaaan... I totally don't understand it. How tough is it to not be antagonistic? All you gotta do is not put in the effort to be a shithead.
>>105304550They want Adachi.
>>105328840Nah. I'm never going to fuck them IRL, so their sexual orientation isn't really here nor there. If they're hot then I'm going to goon to them, simple as.I think that the number of people who want actual honest-to-Cheesus GFE is smaller than a cursory view of this board would have people believe. I personally find it really unpleasant.
>>105326919Harder than you'd think. There's a reason that most people are not streamers.
>>105304550Play games for themChat with them and be cuteHug them and tell them they are loved and great, give them some kissesBe there just for them, don't ruin it by flirting with other vtubers especially men
>>105329043>I think that the number of people who want actual honest-to-Cheesus GFE is smaller than a cursory view of this board would have people believeYou're right actually, most people want a shallow experience which, frankly, sucks. I'll admit that getting surprise unarchieved spaces with the girl crying over some dumb shit isn't for everyone though
>>105330012>most people want a shallow experience which, frankly, sucks.I want to be entertained. If that's shallow so be it. All manner of things both surface level and deep as hell can entertain, though.
>>105304550The ability to fantasize about them falling in love with you, because the reality is that we all watch our Oshis for the qualities we’re looking for in a wife.
>>105314387I kneel
>>105326326Somehow in this thread of dumb losers writing poetry the most baffling thing is that someone actually liked this movie.
>>105330012>You're right actually, most people want a shallow experience which, frankly, sucks. I'll admit that getting surprise unarchieved spaces with the girl crying over some dumb shit isn't for everyone thoughHaving someone pretend to be my girlfriend for supas might not fit some people's definition of "shallow", but even the thought of it is profoundly depressing to me. When they're just entertaining an audience, similar to how a late-night talk show host does, it's much easier to maintain a healthy distance.
>>105326761My oshi does all this and people shit on her non-stop
>>105326549Nah, I don't want them to hold themselves back so they can stay on the "same level as me." That would feel worse than GFE. I don't want to hear about every trivial spat they have with thrir signigicant other, but if they have funny or touching (or hell, even educational) stories to share about it then I'd like to hear them.
>>105332256On this shithole board or in her chat? If it's the latter then she needs to swing the banhammer more.
>>105332402here, chat, twitter, youtube comments, her emails. you name it.
>>105304550I watch vtubers because of a wide variety of things they are doing.Like my oshi wwParasi will play games, talk about stuff, show guro artbooks on handcam, smoke cigars while pretending to be Freud and reading traumadumps, cook sheep brain, draw, sing, dance, do creative skits...
>>105332437Well, if she opens up moderator applications, consider applying. Stick with her, though, she sounds like a real one
>>105332495<3
>>105332453>cook sheep brainWife material right there.
>>105332540Probably a vapid grifting whore and you an idiotic simp believing her tweets and discord posts as your value system is substituted by insane delusions.
an integral part of vtubing has to be the doxxing and harassment of a specific viewer but in an affectionate consensual way the experience is defined by the viewers themselves after all and what better than the torture and abuse of an individual to bring us all together
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>>105332645i don't disagree i know what you mean but i eventually i came to no longer respecting her and i didn't want to be in the "in" anymore
>>105331839filtered
>>105332955>elia
>>105304550Men want entertaining content"Men" want an imaginary girlfriend
>>105332437I can guess who it is, but I'm pretty sure she's a tough cookie. Hopefully she can get enough mods to handle that.
>>105304550I want nothing to do with these wenches. I want a hug and they can’t give me that.
>>105304550men are easy
>>105304550https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIoqMOHAVIw
>>105335577Thank you, the future of our society rests on your shoulders.
>>105304655wow... truke
>>105304550Them to not suck at being entertaining. I'm fine with chill streamers but even the high energy big vtubers are pretty boring. I think all the big vtubers in the west are really boring and only coast by from coomers, which in the case of people like zentraya is pretty blatant. While some jp streamers are better at being actually good streamers like tsukino mito salome and kuzuha, and of course kizunai ai, western ones are mostly boring react content or boring in general. There's some entertaining 2views though, sigrid and bird where pretty good around 2021-2023 and I like yumie.
>>105326761>this ain't a uniquely woman thingThe uniquely woman part is that they dont understand it. Women think that men want big titties and ass and a career (lol) or else they won't give them a second look but in reality if they are simply nice to men they will get the attention they so desperately crave.
>>105315701i miss her...
>>105342535you don't relinquish "control" or power if you're nice to menif you're nice to menmen will reciprocateit's not a one-sided thingif you're nice to them, they will be nice to you backbeing nice to them.........you don't become weaker by doing so
>>105343370in fact, being nice to men, without expecting anything in returnnow, this goes for men too
>>105343391it's about readability of my postsif i clump everything togetheri'm afraid people will just glide over my wordsanyways- this goes for men too
>>105343440>makes posts more unreadable with ridiculous spacing>claims it's for readability
>>105304550I want them to be entertaining. There are many ways they can go about being that, but in the end that's what it boils down to.
>>105343471another thingjust because you're nice to someonedoesn't mean they'll reciprocate it right away, instantlysometimes it takes time for them to process itor maybe they're just shybut eventually, they will ponder about itand try to give back the same feelings
>>105318089Dude, you type like it’s a fucking poem. Just end your sentences with a period, begin with a capital letter, and it will be perfectly readable.
>>105342535Do women also just want men to be nice to them or do they expect career or the right bodily features?
>>105343440I love you epic retard.
>>105335577I got several hugs from my oshi at offkai. She was in one of those TV robots on wheels though so I don't know if you'd count that, but I thought it was pretty cool. Whenever I reminisce on that it makes me smile.
>>105347822obviously i don't count that are you asian
>>105304655it's hard to blame them
>>105304550an interesting, unique voice and a model that's fun to draw fan-art of
>>105347978What does that have to do with anything?
>>105304550I just want someone relatedable it doesn't matter what gender, even personality to some snese. I just feel my views, tastes, and experiences are so weird and not necessarily in a good way that it's rare I can relate with anyone.
Background noise mostly while I work with my #1 monitor.Sometimes I leave her on when I go to sleep.
>>105304550Cute girls saying and doing dumb things.
>>105331284Jirai-kei hadaka dogeza…
>>105304550I want a radio host that has just enough charisma to keep me entertained speaking about stuff i find interesting without coming off as an entitled know-it-all.
>>105326761>ChildYou are a woman
I want a weirdo girl who is kinda confident, and uses a loli and/or flat sex model.I watch Chromuchromu, Marimari_EN, Shondo, and sometimes Pippa if she collabs.
>>105331284source doko
>>105304550i want comediansand if they're cute or have other talents that's nice too
>>105351032So, not idols?
>>105305099I agree with your opinion of AZKi except the GFE part. How is she GFE?
>>105304550I want my vsingers singing my songs, not generic ass shit that everyone does
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>>105352511>How is she GFE?She isn't, not really, but she's done it on occasion. The segments at the start and end of her latest birthday 3D live especially, but also a lot of her scripted ASMR (depends if you count yandere as GFE I guess) and, to a limited extent, some of her members only ASMR.She does like to give gachikoi breadcrumbs though https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WKjmq9HK-BcOf the four I mentioned, I actually find Cece's unintentional GFE the most convincing
>>105316266basedshe’s everything an entertainer should strive to be and more
>>105352876the funny thing is, vtubers succeed where female comedians fail specifically by not trying as hard. they avoid doing things that make female comedians suck:>they don't try to appear smarter than the audience>their act isn't basically a lecture they want other women to agree with their political views and clap>good ones have material other than talking about how much of a whore they areit's just goofy women being goofy, which turns out to be a lot funnier than 99% of women who actually try to be comedians
>>105304550love