is this concert fatigue?
>>105311314>catalog threadBack to your numerary SHITHOLE
This is anything but a concert desu
>>105311314highest EN vtuber stream in a while, scene really is dead outside of holo
>>105311314I will never support idolshit
>ConcertIt's a live 3D live, and those numbers are still great. But not gonna lie, I'm already tired of these lives; i have it as background noise
The only good one is IRyS and I'm not suffering Kronii and Bae to watch her.
promise is just the failure gen it's hare carried by Kronii the other 2 are trash that should have graduated instead of mumei and sana
>>105311314no mumei no watch
>>105311652I would have killed to see Mumei, and Fauna to a lesser degree, in the foot karaoke part.
>>105311314Nimi will mog them on Friday
I fucking hate lives at this point. I seriously don't care and don't want 100 of them a year.
>same numbers Troglodytae will return OOOOOOOOOOOH Wed GOLD
>>105311314If you're complaining about concerts from hololive of all places then you might be watching the wrong corpo
>>105311314>30,000 is bad and here's why
>>1053113143rd fes was the peak of Hololive. Everything after that has just been downhill
Why does everything cool happen when I'm supposed to be asleepArghhhh
sorry bros, I'll watch the vod later
is this archived?
30k people is still enough to fill a concert venue, numbertranny. Go back to your thread where you belong
Someone that knows how please photoshop the stalin disapearing meme but with fauna and mumei
>>105313277Just Fauna. Bae still talk to and about Moom all the time
>>105311314>Watching HoloslopNo thanks
Promise is literally the least "idol" gen, only Irys really fills that interest. Bae and Kronii have been poisoned by male collabs, and even Bae who is known for dancing still doesn't really hold a candle to someone like Hajime who actually has professional dancer experience
>>105311609>it's hare carried by Kroniiher persona song was fucking awful
>>105311357Is this /#/ fatigue?
>>105311314i dont watch concerts anymore because it's 95% japanese and 5% english orisongs because apparently a company worth over a billion dollars can't afford to get licensing for english songs
>>105314497Corporations will ALWAYS cheap out on licensing if the suits feel like they should. Though I guess it's not entirely unjustified. Apparently, there was a scene in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia where they used the Ghostbusters theme song for less than a minute and still had to cough up $80,000 for it. Those fees from the rights holders can get pretty steep
It was really good. I was afraid that with Promise in this crippled state, they wouldn't put in half the effort they did, but they did.So even after losing two members and all the turmoil surrounding them, Promise still shows promise.
>>105313714Kronii hasn't homocollabed since before Advent debuted
>>1053113143D Lives have gotten kind of old, they are basically just Archived Karaokes. Would prefer 3D Event/Collab streams
>>10531296330k isnt bad but not if you compare it to their previous numbers reaching 60k-70k
>>105315710>30,000 is bad and here's why
>>105311314EN vtubing is dying, and HoloEN has lost all power to save it. The only hope is Saba reignites interest with a banging album.
>>105315910holoen is died when gura left
>>105311314This is brutally grim, holy shit. Saba almost gets that playing random horror games
>>105316090No shit, Saba gets big numbers because just like when she was Gura, every stream is a comeback stream.
>>105315910a banging album?> no songs as Saba while Nimi and Dooby who're know to be shitty singers have 2 each.>10 songs for 4 years as Gura, half of them was sponsored forced company's projects
>>105316168You're right.Promise will never get that number because there is no coming back for them.
>>105315910>The only hope is SabaIt's crazy how everyone always talks about these gigantic things they expect Saba to do, as if Gura ever did any of these things or even wanted to do them. Saba's chilling and isn't really taking this job seriously, like Dooby. I wouldn't expect anything big from her.
Potentially. I think the reality is that people just want streams and not to be bombarded with merch drops constantly. I think another big thing is that EN fans want EN concerts, not Japanese ones.
>>105316187For real. The Gura / Saba delusion is just pathetic and insane. She was never "super busy working on so much behind the scenes" she just didn't want to work. I'm truthfully shocked that Saba is still around. I thought for sure she was going to stream for a month or two, then go right back to her "Sorry I disappeared, it won't happen again!" one stream ever two weeks.
>>105316205Yeah, because they actually stream consistently, unlike Saba.
>>105316306the thing is, the original poster you're replying to is not really a chumbud. just some monkey who exaggerates being a chumbud to make them look bad.
ENfags would tell you that 6k is good because you can fill a concert venue with that lmao
>>105315971This. Magic is gone after she left and hasn't recovered. She may not have streamed much, but her presence alone boosts the EN branch.
>>105311314yes and no, the en market is kinda dead and also doesn't care for concerts as much as jp does since it has more history in that market with idols. i bet jp still eats their concerts up tho
People are more interested in an idol's "story" than the concert itself
>>105313714IRyS gave Kronii the antidote
>>105317089That doesn't explain anything.
>>105317133>20k+ >for a concertID levels of relevancy lol watame gets that in a normal gaming stream
>>105317219What is the story here? Holo girls got another concert? Ok...?
>>105317236Are we going to apply this same logic to the stream in the OP?
>>105317277Show me how people are interested in the "story". EN can't even get 30k for a regular stream.
>>105317236Anyone pulling over 20k for a gaming stream is getting botted. Also basically all JP concerts are botted.
>>105317313Source: My ass.
>>105317358The source is common sense. The JP market literally cannot have more viewers than the EN market.
>>105317386Common sense is code for "I have no fucking clue how anything works"
HoloEN is dead
>>105315247Yeah, between her career plummeting and her boytoys Vestard and Fagni fucking off, homocollabing ended up mindbreaking Kronii in the end. People post about how "feminized" she is now because that's how she came crawling back, even if she hates her audience for it.
>>105317069What fucking presence lmao. She spent 3 of her 4 years in Hololive barely doing anything
>>105318047Every time she went on hiatus, the chumbuds scattered to other en members, thus boosting their numbers. After she left they just stopped watching corpo slop all together.
>>105314723>cheap outAnon that's an awfully weird way to spin things and shift the blame to cover. If you take every member of EN and tell them to make a list of 20 or so EN songs that they'd like to sing without limitation you'd end up with nearly every single one of them turning in a song lineup that would cost millions in licensing.The American music industry is filthy as fuck and in no way does it make sense to blow millions of dollars for something like this. It would never pay off. It's such a gross misuse of budget that Cover's shareholders would immediately have their collective knees on the back of Yagoo's neck asking why in the fuck the company is throwing so much money away like that.
>>105318108>Every time she went on hiatus, the chumbuds scattered to other en members, thus boosting their numbers.A very small handful did that. Most people who watch Gura are not Cover or vtuber fans, they are Gura fans. They are the World of Warcraft players of the vtubing community. Other options do not exist in their eyes. There is only Gura.
>>105317386>>105317313>LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET OVER 20KMeanwhile In real life. Hololive can get 50k people to show up and oay for their anniversary event but I guess those are all robots.Call me when any non holo vtuber pulls this off.
>>105319571Ironmouse could do it but only if she has her sleeping buff, subathon buff, hosting buff and her boyfriend feeding her traffic at the same time.
>>105311948Making mumei a cackling mess
>>105315354I miss 3d kuso kino
>>105316168>2 days apart playing kusoge still beats any EN by a landslide what else do the voices tell you
>>105319723>beats any EN by a landslideDidn't she lose to Biboo's card opening stream just yesterday?
Myth works with three people because Gura was never around and Ame had the charisma of a stump. Promise without the other two just feels like something’s off. Jarringly so.
More to the point, Myth feel like they have more chemistry now without the other two sad sacks sitting in utter silence.
>>105311314It's fucking weekday morning for Asia Pacific region, they should've scheduled it on weekend.
>>105311314If 30k is fatigue is the rest of the vtuber scene a crypt?
>>105319571You're right, Japan cares about different things than the west does. Who would have guessed?
>>105320324Clearly not the guy the anon is replying to who is saying anything over 20k is botted.
>>105316672>if you have faith in Saba, you're a bad fanKill yourself, holofag.
>>105320129You're not that far off from Mint of all people now, so........
>>105320604And that's one person vs three talents who you would think would have their own fans who only watch things they're in.
>>105319756Don't 98% holoENshit streams lose to Saba? HAHAHAHA
>>105319571Why didn't those 50k people show up to watch the concert in the OP?
>>105320604Have to say it's great hololive idol culture won so the only way to get big numbers is to do concerts now. Indies and small corpos are falling in line to chase it.
>>105311314It's just EN being dimeless shitters.
>>105320871Mint has always been more of an idol than basically all of HoloEN.
>>105320933Never watched her but it's good for her to spread the idol word. It's the only way out of the of sub 1k irrelevancy the non-holo en scene is in if they don't want to sell nudes on fansly or write a googledoc.
>>105317386>The JP market literally cannot have more viewers than the EN marketJapan has a much higher percentage of the population that know and care about vtubers. The majority of EN stream watchers would much rather watch middle aged millionaires get into petty drama with eachother, a wholesome fat guy, hyper energetic flesh zoomers, etc. Maybe they're fine with a token vtuber like ironmouse appearing as a guest from time to time, but mostly EN stream watchers don't really care about vtubers.
>>105321109I think I watched maybe 50-100 hours total of regular streamers from the time justin.tv first started up to early 2021. Stupid anime girls tricked me into consuming a lot of some of the worst content imaginable. Had a few people who made content that I would watch sped up VoDs of like Giant Bomb, but past that it was all anime, cartoon, and manga consumption, which is a lot easier to actually talk and relate with to most people about.
>>105320776It was at 10 in the morning on a weekday
>>105320630no lol, saba hasnt had the most viewed stream in ages. Get with the times man. Saba is washed and holo is still on top
>>105315910>Saba reignites interest with a banging albumI spat out my coffee, thanks anon
>>105319980>>105320008The duality of white women
>>105312963LOL
>>105313551This is big numbers for phase
>>105311314concerts take too much time and effort for little return which could be used streaming and it's even worse when 1 of the 3 is ruins every song
>>105320627Not one person. She brought on big guests to try to leech, as usual. She had multiple Holos both current and former in it, several former members of NijiEN and Vshojo, and the biggest indies she could grab.
>>105311314not at allit's like complaining why NFL teams play 17 times a season and concerts are not even that ofteneveryone deserves a chance to get to watch their favorite playpeople who say shit like this >>105313000 are just noids who don't remember a time when EN didn't have concerts at allput another way, when these concerts dry up fans will be asking why can't we go back to the good ole days which is right now
>>105311314How can there be fatigue for something that's streamed online for free maybe once every other month? If it was an in-person concert that you'd need to take time off work for, pay for flights, hotel, etc. yes there would be fatigue, but not online streams that are just clicks away.
>>105320008This is unfortunately the case, early Myth was like an aspergers drunk dad and menhera mom and the silent older octopus sister trying to tardwrangle their autistic nonverbal children.Now that Mori and Kiara have mellowed out, the 3 of them are like slightly autistic goofballs who meet up for non-alcoholic cocktails and goof around because their children were sent to special kid boarding school.
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