When will it stop, exodus after exodus and Holocucks will continue to be like “this is fine.” There is something fundamentally wrong with the company, in any other company seeing so many people leave within 1 year would be a massive red flag but apparently it’s ok with Hololive because some talents are bootlickers and their fans eat it up
>this is fineCorrect.
Who
>>105391120Literally who?
>>105391179All this shows is that indies reign supreme
>>105391179>look how many bots watch my corpopathetic copium
>>105391215>>105391216EOP at it again
>>105391120>some manager quits because the talent can actually tell them to fuck off now>this is a bad thing
>>105391120This guy works illustrations and 3D.It’s because Cover is pivoting to AI art and he does bot like that. Just recently they had opened positions for AI artists on their job page.
>>105391525source
>>105391525Producing AI slop is not an artist
>>105391291But they are losing viewership every quarter. Also, there are almost 4k of them counted for these stats. They should have like 70% of the chart with that many..
holo antis are pathetic
>>105391120I wonder who keeps making these threads...
Holo supporters are pathetic
>>105391120>it was a fun and rewarding five yearsWait what am I angry about?
>>105391525>AI artistsi don't even get mad at ai slop like most others do but come on nigga
>>105391120Wow that's crazy a company with like a thousand employees has some fluctuation in staff, this is absolute bonkers
>>105391120>after five years someone leaves>OP, probably a jobless fuck, going to make a thread about ityou have anything better to do with your life?
>>105391525>AI artistsThat's an oxymoron.
In todays world if you're at the same company for more than 5 years you're a retard.Or you're an extremely based coder responsible for maintaining your shit code and essentially blackmailing a company to pay you a retarded amount of money because having everything redone will cost them far more.
>>105391120>employee quits>"OMG BLACK COMPANY SCREEEEE BOOTLICKERS"Do you act this way whenever someone quits at your workplace? Oh wait, you've probably never had a job in your life
>>105391179fpbp
>>105391291Anon, except for a small period in 2018 where there were less than 100 vtubers and most of them were corpos. Indies have always had the biggest market share because there's multiple orders of magnitudes more of them than corpos.The fact that hololive is gaining on indies this fast is absolutely insane.
> person gets a new job after five years with a company as a freelancer> this is somehow a source of huge dramaSome of you just never had to interact with the adult word at all huh
>>105391525>This guy works illustrations and 3D.>It’s because Cover is pivoting to AI art and he does bot like that. Just recently they had opened positions for AI artists on their job page.
>>105392130what's wrong with working at the same place for more than 5 years
>>105392616its also the guy probably getting better offers from other companies.
>>105393058He is getting poach by vshojo too
>>105391818indies gained viewership from image 1 to 2. they lost some in 2 to 3 but so did everyone else.>>105392386bots
>>105393282>botsyou understand that indy is much more likely botted since botting in corpo are much more risky?
>>105393481>botting in corpo are much more riskypffffff, lolllllllllll
>>105391120>OP is surprised that people change their employmentReally now? Have you ever had a job before?
>>105393672please, these retards don't understand women's periods, you think they work?
>>105392768its impossible for 3rd world americans to understand but in most place you work the same job until you retire since you can't just easily move around
>>105394084>Thirdies are literally trapped at their jobs with no raises for 40 yearsJesus Christ how horrifying.
>>105391120Niggas just can't up and leave anymore, there has to be some nefarious reason why people leave instead of simply having seen a better opportunity outside (this is not a bad thing)
>>105394207>no raiseswell, I'm not a thirdie so I guess this doesn't apply, I get good enough raises at my current place
>>105391120They've been operating for many years now. People are going to move on in their careers, you know.
>>105391300said by 0.6% with botted to hell troon absolute cinema
>>105391120Early employees leaving soon after a company becomes more corporate is a common problem for former startups. This is why you had so many graduations last year as well as multiple longtime staff members bowing out. There's too many managers to deal with now. The employees who are hard workers have simply grown tired of all of the red tape that is now required of them.
>>105391120who? unironically, never heard of this dude.
>>105391120Those "fans" saying "this is fine" and damage controlling on social media and even /here/ are just astroturfers paid by the company. Actual fans either brainlessly eat it up, as you said, or have no power to change anything.YAGOO could graduate tomorrow and it would be the same astroturfed explanations and cope. The company could close down and file for bankruptcy tomorrow and it would be the same astroturfed explanation and cope.
>>105397754Are we supposed to care about every blender jockey and pencil pusher in the company?
>>105391179Phase Connect has, what, ten employees? It could realistically survive off YouTube revenue alone with, like, .8% watch hours. Cover has hundreds of employees: it would need to be closer to 40-60% of VTuber watch hours to reach the break even point.
>>105391120who
>>105397754It is fine though...
>>105391525>AI artistsAnon you seem to be new at the English language. This does not make sense.
>>105402387cope harder. You need someone who knows how AI works, check if everything is fine and so on. How they are called doesn't matter when we can't even call janitors janitors anymore irl
>>105391179Who's going to pick up a majority of vShojo's corpse, Indies?
>>105404993LMFAO, okay then, I ain't even gonna tell you so you can keep outing yourself as the retard one
>>105404993Post the job listing.
>>105408563Likely indies because the people who were watching them before are the same people watching now. Vshojo's collapse does not matter at all on the audience side of things beyond the fucked up merch situation.
>>105391291Quantity over quality, that's the indie way.
>>105391291Delusional. Only a few indies survive while the rest can go fuck off!
>>105412335Congratulations, you just learned what showbiz is.
>>105391300bots good, people using adblock bad
>>105391525>>105404993>ESL retard
>>105391291do rats reign supreme? there's just so many of them. oh no, what about insects???
>>105404993>check if everything is fineIt's never fine because AI can't do almost any job yet, but they're shoehorned in by people who don't know how it works. There is literally nothing a guy who "does know how AI works" can do to fix this.
>>105391120who?>who?
>>105391120Still who
>>105391969Artists arent being replaced by AI. Artists that dont use AI are being replaced by Artists that use AI.Simple as that. Just as handwriter's job isnt being replaced by type writing machine, but rather handwriter that uses typewriter machine replaced those that dont use it.
>>105391525Post the listing ESL-brownoid ie. Sister.
>>105419909This is true. This also doesn't mean any slop will tolerated though - mistakes are going to get more noticeable.
>>105420525It's like CGI vs practical effects, one is cheaper and faster so the execs will keep pushing for it, regardless of its quality.The key is to make it good enough that audiences don't immediately see that it's AI.
>>105391120I'm not the biggest fan of Holo, but doing this for regular employees is reaching a fair bit. It's only really notable if talents or senior management leave.
>>105420525>mistakes are going to get more noticeableIf anything, as AI improves, the output becomes better and better. We can generate full 3D models, images, videos, sfx, music, etc from AI today that are of decent quality with decent prompts. Tomorrow's AI will improve this by leap and bounds. By the end of this decade, you'll say the complete opposite where you'll claim "only humans make mistake" and "this is too perfect, so its AI". The tune will change to the opposite in your mind before you even notice what you're saying.
>>105391120First Mori now this? Something big is a about to drop.
lolbunch of retarded niggers in this thread
>>105398062>Are we supposed to care about every blender jockey and pencil pusher in the company?Fans were hoping that A-Chan would take over after Yagoo, but when she actually leaves, they cope as if she were irrelevant.Fans can cope all they want, but financially, Cover isn't making their projections. And the investors have lost confidence in their current direction.
>>105394217Dramafaggots saw what happened with VShojo and niji and now they are looking for signs in the clouds for proof that hololive is a black company too.
>>105422489>investorsOnly sisters care about stocks.
>>105420843>Something big is a about to drop.Yeah, your mom, down the stairs.
>>105422489>taking over a tech CEO role from a lower position in the company when it has VC backing or went publicThey are delusional. Only the investors or a board of directors get to pick in any of those situations. At best, she would've only gotten to do it on a temporary basis if Yagoo had to leave his position for any reason and that is for those people to find a proper replacement. The only certainty in that situation would've been that the company would've gotten another tech or finance figure who was well connected with said people to head Cover.
>>105423146Cover cares very much.
>>105391179>Hololive has become a soulless company>bleeding talents like never before>but it's cool because their numbers are bigWhy would this matter to you? Are you a shareholder? An investor?
>>105423833It was obviously folly. However, the cofounder of Hololive helped many stay and/or change their direction in the company. It's arguable that it is no coincidence that the exodus occurs after her leaving. And talents are talking about how it's no longer like the past, but a new direction for Hololive.But my point was that she was treated as the second most loved after Yagoo, to becoming negligible after she left.
>>105391337This.
>>105423165At least say that you would fuck her, not... this
>>105423877They should start acting like that then>Told investors off several times when they suggested to cut the girls' shares down to "other company"'s rate>Still doesn’t buyback or pay dividends even though investors have been screaming for that for yearsLike, one of the most commonly seen criticism about cover from investors is that they have no way to influence the company and no way to profit outside of selling their stocks
>>105423898Hololive is the only company that actually cares about developing their existing talent with everyone trying to support the smaller members before introducing new members. This concentrated effort by all sorts of scummy corpos and "indies" trying to take Hololive down just goes to show how much greater in all aspects Hololive is to every other alternative. They can't compete with them so they try to destroy them with lies and underhanded means.
>>105423117The "Hololive is a black company" narrative isnt new, it was, funny enough, started by Coco when she complained about 50% merch cuts being "too low".
>>105391216>>105416620>>105419521One of the artists who did some of the chibi art or illustrations for merch.Mostly for HoloEN.
>>105391120I'd be happy if hololive disappeared. It would create some fresh air in the industry
>>105426789You have all the "fresh" air over in the indie space, too bad that it generally stinks of shit.
>>105426387kill yourself /#/turdie
>>105426789how do you envision this fresh air after the disappearance of hololive? I'm curious
>>105426789Yeah, it'd be awesome to have more black companies take the space like Nijisanji or [micro corp of the week that will die in 7 months]
>>105427196>Post about Coco complaining>anon brings up /#/????
>>105426387She even praises the group until this day, faggot.
>>105391120Regular staff leave a company all the time, who cares. If we get another wave of talents leaving then you can make a thread.ZZZzzzzzz now
>>105391120literally who>five yearsthats a lot anywaysconclusion: OP is a tranny as usual
>>105423877I really don't think they care about individual employees leaving. The direction they wanted for the company sucked anyway.
VSJ wiped off the boardIndie up to 37%>>1053932822-3 loss can be easily explained by small corpos snapping them up.
>>105391120Wtf is happening?
>>105425116It's fine when Cover is meeting projections, but they are no longer doing that.Let's hope it's better with the next financial report.
>>105432492>I really don't think they care about individual employees leaving.this
>>105426789The existence of hololive doesn't stop you from watching other vtubers.
>>105391179Hey, remove the cancer and the patient recovers.
>>105393481name a vtuber on youtube who got banned for botting
>>105391291this has always been such a retarded argument lmaoevery single indie is actually not only in competition with holo, but also with every other indie, they're not a collective whole.And either way, using that same logic clearly shows vtubing is Corpo dominated since they have 65.8% of the scene
>>105426789gunrun I hope you've made it to mexico
>>105391179>holo goes up>others go downit's just that easy
>>105423898it means people are still watching hololive no matter how much you malding, envious faggots want them to die.
>>105439535That's not really the point. The market share would be up for grabs and there would be much more competition (since it is actually rewarded), and ultimately different trends would control the industry instead of the old tired tropes.
