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>>105391456Flayon is so fucking lucky
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking>https://vt.poi.cat/Hololive sites>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/Twitch sites>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/>https://streamscharts.com/
Unless you got your golden hololive ticket, there is no reason to ever join a vtuber company/agency
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2b_SNYLUD6Mhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=2b_SNYLUD6Mhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=2b_SNYLUD6MNimi cucks
mountain = unshared
>>105391456Recent Clip Numbers>>105388061>>105388073>>105388092
Shiori be the type of nigga to say great googley moogley!
>>105391491damn, i see a lot of unicorns seething like nijisisters
>see newest "Mori" tweets-should i start doomposting now?
>>105391456* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY * >55,693: Luna (Hololive)>38,032: Lauren (Nijisanji)>27,644: Kanae (Nijisanji)>22,917: Pekora (Hololive)>20,717: AZKi (Hololive)>14,386: NeruMero (Indie)>14,260: Subaru (Hololive)>14,223: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>13,607: Watame (Hololive)>13,041: ReGloss (Hololive)>12,441: ExAlbio (Nijisanji)>11,693: Aki (Hololive)>11,665: Bijou (Hololive)>10,936: Koyori (Hololive)>10,129: Ina (Hololive
>105391491>parrotnigger
>>105391409See >>105391404. The initial point is "a vtuber is X" and it points out that Nimi is not the same vtuber as Fauna.I doubt you are making the case that "yes, Nimi is the same vtuber as Fauna" so I don't really get your general point here.>>105391430See above. Just to be clear, are you making the point that "Nimi is the same vtuber as Fauna"?>>105391449>Mori's personality changed. IRyS changed her model.In both cases (despite IRyS model improvement) it is still the same person inside, same channel, same model and same environment.>I'm sure there are some indies that chang-You'll have to be really more concrete than that.
>>105391491How ESL do you have to be to understand this
Sakuna said she is interested in trying ASMR but might look for a studio to do it at
>>105391456100k by holos in 20251. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)42. Sakura Miko Switch 2 GET announcement (Miko/22-06)43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)45. Pekomama holomem totsumatchi (Pekora/16-07)46. Houshou Marine Bday 3DLive (Marine/30-07)47. Guess which holomem the present is from? (Miko/03-08)48. Best loser Smash tournament (Miko/06-08)49. Usada Pekora 6th Anniversary 3D Live (Pekora/31-08)50. Nakiri Ayame 7th Anniversary 3D Live (Ayame/03-09)51. Shishiro Botan Bday 3DLive (Botan/08-09)52. PekoLamy watermelon exploding offcollab (Pekora/15-09)53. Shirakami Fubuki Bday 3DLive (Fubuki/05-10)# of 100k streams last year: 58
>>105391491imagine this retard being your hero lmao
How many Nimi shirts did you guys buy?
>>105391544Why a studio?
>>105391524Yes anon, that "bad job" surely is the one job that is landing her anime OPs and solo lives and not the myriad of retarded side quests and favours she's doing all around
>>105391536Nimi is a different vtuber to FaunaBut her audience 90% transferred over to Nimi, numbers were exactly the same until she got married, your point is stupid and wrong
Is thread ogey
>>105391561How much cuck porn did you pay for parrot?
>>105391566>Nimi is a different vtuber to FaunaThen you and I are in agreement. I didn't make any additional point and the comment about her numbers was in response of people asking about the theme.Here is my point again: a vtuber is more than the model. A vtuber is more than the "person inside". A vtuber is the emergent property of the model, channel, person inside AND the environment she's embedded within.
>>105391576Thread is oh... gay
>parrot shillingAt least schizo out in your own catalog bait thread pagcuck
>>105391561GYATT DAMN, Nimi doing her squat reps
>>105391564If I were to guess I would say sound proofing and a good mic is the reason and it's expensive to get it right for a one off thing.Noel has three of them tho (studios, I mean), she can borrow one if she ask, I suppose
>>105391594No I'm not in agreement, you were wrong, you're an idiotYou trying to autistically define what a vtuber is dumb too, it's an identity, it has no strict definition, a vtuber is definitely not "an environment"
>>105391605absolute state of phasefags in this thread
>>105391491Isn't he late?
>Brave didn’t even do anything wrong
>>105391636Nah you are the autistic one bro, a vtuber is definitely constrained to a definition, an anonymous person who is a streamer, you cannot go fleshie
Sora cant do this dungeon
CH Husband
>>105391524she wouldn't be that blatant about it if it was related to hololive, don't be retarded
>>105391661>We can't give you back to IP you sold us for free
>>105391524i think you should start doomposting if you're a ligger cus it does read like it
>>105391685>a vtuber is definitely constrained to a definitionNo it's not, it doesn't have a formal meaning, the definition of vtuber is collectively decided by the people who use it
>>105391691Wtf is that deep-fried thumbnail lol
A cashier checked out my items today, she wants me so bad
>>105391636>You trying to autistically define what a vtuber isTrue, but as >>105391685 says, I'm not as much as "defining" but constraining what it is NOT.>>105391685>an anonymous person who is a streamer, you cannot go fleshieEh, I don't know. I don't really know any vtuber that went fleshie and remained a vtuber but I'm not making that constraint. You are likely right but I didn't even think about that
Ruined whore, ruined thread
>>105391738The only thing you can say a vtuber is or is not is that it's someone who uses an animated avatar
>>105391524>inb4 she got convinced to add notMori to that webcomic featuring asmongold
>>105391738>I don't really know any vtuber that went fleshie and remained a vtuberlots of indies do this
>>105391564Asked about the KU100 and was worried about breaking the mic and having a bad sound environment
Just like a person a vtuber is definitely affected by the environment and whatever is the "norm" where they work. Someone who is indie might be more whorish while they are more cleaned up in a corpo.
>>105391789Streamer culture is whorish
>>105391713You do fucking realize loose media is exactly why people hate Among Us right, you are literally making Vtubing like Among Us if you make Vtubing such a loose definition, in making things matter and remain to matter you must maintain the same uniform principles, that's why people stick to rules, that's why countries ban foreigners, they want to preserve their homeland.Just like how I want to preserve the proper meaning of vtubers, and you being so fucking obnoxious to even think of being a loose cannon to accept anything that a person perceives vtubing to be is such a fucking brown fucking mindset, show me your Twitter account you fucking pansy bitch my name is Reo
>>105391691>Married to a Chinese spy>Hate her JP corpo and her jp senpais.It makes sense now. The story ends here.
>>105391809You don't understand how language works, I'm sorry for your mental illness
>>105391828YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW CULTURE WORKS
>>105391809Excuse me anonie /pol/ is that way
>>105391847Yes I do, culture changes and evolves, you want to strictly define culture because you have a mental illness, but people who want to strictly define culture never win
>>105391819>Married to a Chinese spysakana
>>105391738>I don't really know any vtuber that went fleshie and remained a vtuberKson
>>105391828is your fucking braincells so abysmal that you all can't understand the stuff I'm saying, I SAID THIS IS CULTURAL PRESERVATION.WHO THE FUCK DO THESE INDIES THINK THEY ARE PROMOTING SUCH BLATANT FLESH CONTENT, I SWEAR YOU AREN'T VTUBERS ANYMORE.I MIGHT BE YELLING, AND I MIGHT LOOK ANNOYING, BUT I'M PRETTY FUCKING SURE A LOT OF YOU AGREE WITH ME, THAT A FLESHIE POSING A SA VTUBER IS SO ANNOYING
>>105391713>the definition of vtuber is collectively decided by the people who use itYou might as well say "the definition of vtuber is collectively decided by the people who has any passing interest in it" and it would mean the same thing which is: fuck all, nothing.That is not even the point I am making, with the initial post being a response to >>105390220 which said "the original creator behind the character" referring to the departing vtuber. My point is more a delimiter of what a vtuber is NOT instead of what vtuber is specially because there are some hairy cases where you could make a case about someone being a vtuber>Kamito, for instance, which is a vtuber in all but self identification considering he is adamant in disclaiming NOT to be a vtuberor converts with some>like PMaru or that convert chick with ten million subs or so which I forgot the namenot being considered out of inertia while othersand others>like the Gorillaz dudetrying his hardest to be considered one and failing.My intention is not to say what is a vtuber but to mention a series of things that do no, in itself, makes a vtuber.One thing should be uncontroversial: the "person inside" is not the vtuber and said vtuber is not "playing a character".>>105391778>lots of indies do thisThis post is absurdly useless without names.>>105391886She strayed so hard away from vtubers even this thread and vstats stopped tracking her in the vtuber tallies.
>>105391893Yeah I'm sure you having a toddler tantrum on /#/ is going to stop vtubers from fleshposting
>>105391901Cookieswirl
>>105391491This dude Is still around? I thought he quit
>>105391901The defintion of vtuber as a word is defined by people who use it, that's the point of language
>>105391491Am I in the video? I dunk on napcucks all the time
>>105391934Yeah, I tried to search "lamy sister" or the creators of her mama but failed miserably and my level of permanent alcoholic intoxication is doing a number in my memory.
>>105391944slit your throat parrotcuck
>>105391901>This post is absurdly useless without names.Literally everyone in VShojo
>>105391962I refuse to watch the video and give the fag a view, just curious
>>105391963I am newwhat is this VShojo that you spoke of?
>>105391312didnt bao get scammed over a dozen of times already?
>>105391940Anon, you are dying to drag people into the "prescritivist vs descriptivist" debate, likely because you come from an academic environment where that's a past time.Been there, done that, had very good moments butting heads with people more intelligent than you and I will ever be defending each (and sometimes both) sides of this debate.I don't consider this venue to be one where I would find someone interesting enough to engage in this sort of debate and you sound dumb (and so do I) so I'll just take a rain check
>>105392002google it
>>105392009Informal language is descriptivistYou aren't smarter than me
>>105392004Not just that. This is the same advice as "you go girl! Cut your hair short, you'll slay!"Telling chicks that would remain one view to "remain indie" just because of the possibility of graduating without taking her model, that's dumb as fuck,.
>>105391691if only she did that minimum effort for learning japanese, but I guess thats not leftist friendly
>>105392009>>105392038Can you niggas just kiss and make up already
>>105392050That was before she joined Hololive dumb fuck
>>105392038I'm not, I consider you and I to be peers in retardation otherwise this wouldn't be the venue for this little skirmish.
>>105391491Yeesh. I don't even know where to start with this guy. First, uses Nerissa as an example of "copying off Fauna" when she was already doing ASMR way before Fauna's graduation, so you know he's already just here to spread shit like a clip watcher looking to slurp an extra buck in watch views. Then, he's pretty much shitting on Naplings the entire time, so hopefully none of them are laughing at this. And making people like Magni and Vesper look like mic dropping chads when their careers are in the proverbial toilet? Who is this guy?
>>105392070No we aren't peers, you're an idiot pretending to be smart
>>105392069are you trying to tell me that she only became a leftist after joining hololive you dumb fuck?
>>105391624Yea squatting on her boyfriend's dick
The next graduation was just locked in
>>105392050Did anyone in EN learn japanese while in Holo? No, not even Raora or Biboo living there lmao
>>105392094What does being a leftist have to do with anything?
>>105392085dramanigger leech looking for a quick buck in his third world countrypart of the cancerous side of this hobby that includes tourists and antis
>>105392099wtf
>>105392099retard
>>105391697wait fr or are you shitting with out any source?
>>105392099why would she post something like that which could easily be misinterpreted
>>105392099im reading this as something she signed up for not her current career
I'll give you guys a good example,Lets say the whole world had a concept calledBlonde hair, all the old people, young people, teens have blonde hair, and then all of sudden someone thinks of a different idea, hey what if I had black hair.And then this person starts promoting black hair and then it keeps corrupting the blonde hair population.So yeah THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT VTUBING YOU FUCKS
>>105392099Good riddance bitch
>>105392111are you dumb? most of them tried to learn at least the basic japanese for their trips
>>105392098Moom's lucky owlcock...
>>105392089You and I mate! Absolute peers!
>>105391986you should kill yourself
>>105392153I'm not pretending
>>105392099I'm guessing she signed up for some long contract regarding music or promoting something
>>105392136Alright nigga we get it you post on pol
>>105392132your boy is not good at words
>>105391491literally impossible to watch this with that annoying voice
>>105392136
>>105392111Kronii has massively improved her Japanese since debut, Shiori is on and off but she has been doing her reps as well.CC literally just did a JP learning stream recently and in theory she should be doing more learning behind the scenes.
>saturday>literally no streams
>>105392176this but with Biboo kek
>>105392178
Hello please listen to Run Back 'Round
>Graduationbegging with MORIHahahahahahahaha
>>105392178>>105392212repulsive artstyle
>>105392140>>105392181DYRBI
>>105392182its sabado today
>>105392099>a parrotranny in this threadnow i know where the retarded bait comes from
>>105392178>>105392212I miss them
>>105392111Its not like you really have to in tokyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-8y1fcL40MCoom stream soon
>>105392252How come? I don't pay too much attention to them these days but now that they're free from the clutches of management and evil corpo autism they must be streaming all the time right?
>>105392111??
>>105392275dont rub it in
>>105392275saba pretty much is, dooby never really had an issue with management to the extent saba did so her behavior continued
>>105392099Graduation begging post that this is, I would hope not, unless she has a damn good plan. That wouldn't be balls to pull out now, it'd be stupidity now that EN is gathering together. Or somebody convinced her to invest in a longterm project they thought would be mutually beneficial, and I would hope, HOPE that recent events have taught her that these hastily put together corpos do not last. The more likely thing would be seeing as she has had a deluge of promotional opportunities it was one that crossed her agent that seemed lucrative but was fishy.
>>105392275please understand they are busy supporting ironlungs concert plans, they have no time to stream
>>105392250Its the same fag reposting /trash/ content
>>105392270>soon>its actually soon
>>105392307Why would she be joining another company?
>>105392307it's obviously the latter, she wouldn't outright call hololive a "bad job" in a throwaway post
>>105391456Shiori has one of the hottests designs in hololive and people manage to draw her ugly somehow
>>105392212>>105392178Saba Dooby cute
>>105392306>saba pretty much islol
>>105392085My biggest displeasure as a Colombian is sharing home with the Esteban gigabeggar and ParrotfagNot many V-Tuber fans here, but they all fucking suck.
>>105392099This is the opposite. She's pulling out of a RM job/project to fully focus on her actual job.
>>105392287>Biboo>improvingsure, just like her singing, right? kek
>>105392364she already did that though
>>105392099here is my rrat>Dooby announced as a guest in Ironmouse's concert>She suddenly wants to pull out from that job THEY HATE EACH OTHERRAINFOREST BROS WILL NEVER RECOVER AFTER THIS
>>105392366Cuckling seethe
>>105392366No, her japanese is actually improving
>>105392351>going from 1 stream every month to 2/3 per week is not betterCope and seethe
>>105392307I already psychoanalyzed Mori, it is unbelievable how you all can speculate on impossible scenarios.It's obviously that she got a bad deal in her RM and accepted it, which is bad for her time
>asks in bad faith if anyone is even learning JP>is shown the ones that are known to be doing their reps or have actually shown improvement>"ok but they're not ACTUALLY learning"retard
>>105392383Probably some other contract she didn't like.
>>105392335Mythic gives better opportunities.
>>105392307>Right in the middle of the Gachiakuta boom>Self designated leader of EN>High morale after the events of early year... graduationbegging with Mori is always stupid, but much more so this week
>>105392366Her singing is also improving
>>105392415No they don't
>>105392366Unironically she got better than when she started and had the balls to participate in Koyori's acoustic not pre-recorded live.
>>105392270how bad of a state is HoloEarth in that they can't do these streams in HoloEarth and have to keep using VRchat.
>>105392247>Saba's new follow is an account with a Man I Love Fauna hat pfpTHEY ARE
>>105392433They are getting an anime.
>>105392415Pffff hahahahahaha
>>105392444It's barely a comic
>>105392419This. Also if ahe betrayed her little gremlin she'll never forgive herself and rope immediately
>>105391544fuck, if she does i'll have to member her, Aqua doing ASMR will do things to my dick.
>>105392443I think you mean>Saba's new follow is the account that made lunas transformation animationUOOOOOOOOOOOOHH
>>105392467>boobsthis fills me with rage
>>105392411They're not though, Biboo is gonna go back to streaming FOTM slop since she only cared about learning japanese in the first place to leech from the JP members during the new Minecraft server, now she dropped learning it like the others "cause she's busy" lol
>>105392495Konata is sex. Konata is love.
>>105392523Weird cope
Here is how it will be for the thread: you'll seethe at Nimi until the next wave of graduations, and then you'll realize how pointless it is to simp for a corpo. Try to think 2-3 steps ahead; it will change your life.
>>105392523>you can only learn japanese if you're not streaming FOTM games
>>105392495t.
>>105392099Thats an odd thing to say
>>105392545Has there been a bigger fall from grace on /vt/ than cucklings? They used to run this board now they're posting sad cope like this
>>105392545>then you'll realize how pointless it is to simp for a corpo.No, they will keep doubling down on Hololivein 3 years time they'll be acting like everyone has always loved ERB
>>105392523slit your throat brazilian schizo
>>105392467>boobsimproved, lolis and flat chests aren't sexy
>wave
>>105392443No, Terrible Joe is just a really good animator but he mainly likes animating Advent
>>105392569>They used to run this boardstill do
>>105392178Saba hasnt mentioned dooby and they havent collabed in awhile....
>>105392443This got me thinking about yesterday, and how bleak everything was.A birthday stream with a 50% drop from last year, her merch sold out, but it took many times more than the previous year and even when compared to low level Holos like Shiori, and, perhaps worst of all, neither Dooby or Saba said any word. They were not best friends or anything, but at least acquaintances, now they act like they never met.
>>105392593No what?
>>105392182Nimi isn't streaming today so we get saba today
>>105392599>bijou botted
>>105392599Based>>105392571Grim
>>105392569This board is dead now get in your grave
>>105392599Shitposting avengers weekend
>>105392569There never can be honestly, too much setup. At least Gura/chumbuds maintained some integrity.
>holodrones doxxing again
>>105392545At this rate there will be no Nimi by the time the next Holo graduates.Nothing will stop the bleeding, don't take it on us.
>>105392649why doesn't hololive have hotties like this
>holodroneoh this faggot again.grim
>>105392666They are having a melty.
NIMI GOLD
Why is bibooschizo alive right now she isnt streaming rn?
>>105392672NIMI FOREVER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-8y1fcL40Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-8y1fcL40Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-8y1fcL40M
>>105392599no they don't if you have to keep posting the same thread cloud from weeks ago
>>105392710That's most /#/ threads
>>105392732True tbdesu
>>105392699they're always here you just have to make enough biboo posts to trigger them
>>105392599lol did you save that once and then try to play pretend that its always the real cloud?
Why are they so big
>>105392407She never did only 1 stream per month. It was her hiatus and ghosting that was bad and she's not immune to doing that as Saba as we've seen already
>13k for a birthday + ZERO overlap + Mintleeching>Saba and Dooby completely ignored her birthday and didn't congratulate her>trying to keep her indieavengers LARP alive by inviting Mint's literalwho friend>puts them both into a cuckshed while shilling merch
I hate looking at /vt/.It's always bootlicking Nimi or hating on Nimi.So fucking tired
>>105392784need to be bigger
>>105392593>Saba trying to steal him from AdventDangerously based
>>105392825We always have Kanauru.
>>105392784bigger
>>105392825You misunderstand, Joe will animate for anyone that pays.But he does Advent animations on his own time just because he likes them.
>spend millions of dollars developing game that's supposed to be able to be used for concerts and shit>instead, talents just stream karaoke in VRchatwhat the fuck was the point?Also, PARE PARE PARE
>>105392799>Mintleeching>inviting Mint's literalwho friendretard
>>105392802>walks into the nimi thread>surprised they talk about nimi
>>105392799Wait Saba and Dooby didn't even say anything on twitter? There's no way
>>105392870Cuckling seethe
>>105392825>free for Advent >Saba has to paylmao, like the homos who paid him.
>>105392859Holoearth is for fans to rape their oshis not karaoke
Mr nightmare must be very rich from all merch money
>>105392837Ewwww
>>105392891It's okay bro they totally DM'd her for it I swear
>>105392891Do you know how much like a woman you sound?
>>105392913I want to HoloEarth Fuwawa
>>105392837I will fucking jump off a cliff, this talentless fuck hasn't improved
>>105392920Do you think he has a regular job or is just a house husband?
>>105392837>ANOTHER Kanauru slop IRyS driving song MV with beegsmol and other cameos/referencesIs this her version of Kiara shitting out Kslop over and over again?
Avengersfags have a hard life...
uh oh
>>105392962Kek
>>105392977Scroll up slowchama
>>105392977keep trying retard
>>105392929holy mental illness lol
>>105392882This, /uuu2/ forever
>>105392977discord tranny chama.....
>>105392962>didn't even tweet happy birthday at herit's their own fault for holding on to their delusions
>>105392899>Acting like Mint is a buff>Acting like Nimi and Phoebe didn't know each other for 4 years or so
>>105392962KWAB
Fuboobs, I just came up with that yeah
foobs being cute and doing a karaoke in vc chathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-8y1fcL40Malso she flashes her panties when she jumps
>>105393075Epic and true
SHINY SMILEY STORY
>>105393075Foobs
>>105392962That brings me the question. The last time someone tried that Avengers shit (Kson and her gang of losers), how did it end? Do they still talk?
>>105393075not bad>>105393110better
>>105392920Mrs nightmare has plenty, but will come on stream soon
Early nap for me, n64 zelda noises make me too relaxed
Imagine if HoloEarth ever becomes functional enough to do karaoke like this and talents have have a paypig membership tier to provide private access to the room they're doing the karaoke while the plebs watch on the stream.
>>105392920the fertility treatment doesnt come cheap
>>105393154Don't even know what to say to this, it's just sad to see really
>>105393116>tried>gang of losersdo you even know what you're talking about?
>>105392977>trying to find the ballsyeah, mine>to pull outyeah, my dick inside her pussu
>>105393215Calm down Gigi
why the fuck hasn't that promise song released yet except for the weirdo obscure YT-generated version?
nimi is marrying kronii the reason they acted very distant with each other is because the relationship got too real so they cut it off publically to keep it a secret
>>105393213anon might be talking about this
>>105393173>while the plebsWhile the plebs watch in the same room, but the paypigs are in the bed while they free to play are in the corner chair
>>105393256What does sally think of this?
my friend is being a bit TOO silly
>>105393256Kronii will NEVER SCOREROLL OUT THE YOPTBL
>>105393264>Vshojo are the original Avengers of vtubingoh yeah i remember now
Sora cute
>>105393311
pls considerlearn to drop hateinvest in a smilelove will comemaybe you will like ithttps://files.catbox.moe/gxnc9l.mp3
>>105393307now those are practically perfect fox boobs
Why did Fubuki stop trying to save the homos?
>>105393311>>105393362leave me alone man wtf...
>>105393366foobs is being very cute and silly
>>105393397I want a collab with Kronii and Mococo...
https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1976645591233970497Anybody like this in holo?
CRAP YOUR HANDS
>check proof of delivery >im wearing shorts so its my legsDamn, someone has been skipping leg day
>>105393419i doubt fuwawa would let her collab solo but it would be cute
>>105392802this is /uuu2/ retard
>>105393446gen 5 has a scat fetish....
>>105393379It's REALLY not worth the trouble, all girls realize it sooner or later
>>105393425or just... y'know... have good opsec?
>>105393425someone should kill asmongold
>>105393264>think of them as an avengers team of people who love vtubersI wonder what it's like inside this woman's head right now
Fbk is the least haggy hag in Hololive
Meanwhile in the worthless shitter world of worthless shitting
crapping
>>105393425Bae should've banned some Brats after AfO, Fuwamoco is cultivating a crazy fanbase, and we already know Kiara has a weirdo
>>105393425>block them after they donate you a lot of moneyyeah that will help
>>105393505How long for Ollie and Iofi
>>105393544What about Luna or Sora
you guys need more Jesus
>>105393558Isn't Kiara's weirdo not kfp, rather he's after her irl persona?
Fubusex
>>105393525>I wonder what it's like inside this woman's head right now"If these videos about V-Shojo fail I'll have to do porn"
>>105393264>>105393213It’s not that. kson on leaving Hololive and way before joining VShojo tried for a>kson gang of sorts with it being the “proto indie avengers / proto “akatsuki” but, for some unexplainable reason, the girl that said during her Holo stint that>I won’t male collab because that would be like putting you, my beloved audience, in a third wheel roledecided to make THE ONE MALE FROM VOMS (Ryugon) her collab partner instead of his company mate Pikamee. https://www.youtube.com/live/F9J57_IhD-sThat was the start and end of any pretense of “kson gang” ever actually flourishing
SEEEEEEEEEX FRIEND
>>105393251Waiting for the MV. Shit on Kanauru as much as you want but without him that’s what you get
Boss for water temple is kicking Soras ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctsd2St9WhU
>>105393668>>105393651holy hagsex
>>105393425Did no one read the fucking article or what? She went into a business partnership with the dude then backed out, that's what set him off. The real fucking takeaway is not to get involved with fans
>>105393651>>105393668Yeah, that goes into the “she was asking for it by wearing that” folder
>>105393558I dont think Fwmc's fanbase are parasocials, ruffians are just adults being pampered like 12 yr olds
>>105393687>little>nightmareAIIIIEEEEEE
>>105393708>I dont think Fwmc's fanbase are parasocialslol
New TimeFister animation just droppedhttps://youtu.be/os6yz7kq7Cohttps://youtu.be/os6yz7kq7Cohttps://youtu.be/os6yz7kq7Co
>>105393717>nimi>mini>nightmares>nightmareAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>105393708BULLSHIT, Ruffians are fucking psychos
What about Dubai
I refuse to believe that vtuber audiences are so fucking cucked that they would buy merch from a married woman. And not even a larping married woman, at least that is a good fetish because you're the cucker in the fake scenario. But a woman who actually actively admitted to getting married to some unknown dude. And not only did she admit to being married she admitted to wanting to get fucked every night for children. And yet people still tossed her money. This world is so fucking done.
>>105393741>Mori, CC and Kronii competing for GG
>>105393781Nerissa it doesn't work if you say it yourself
>>105393741kino
>>105393741is gigi made out of the same material as grems?
>fubuki peaked more than toyagrim
>>105393781nerissa you are EXTREMELY feminine
>>105393683The only way I ever see people beat it is by trapping it in a corner and then just wailing on it with the sword. I'm not even sure how you're supposed to fight it normally.
>>105393768The only fanbases who ever drove their oshi to graduate are nijimales' due to constant doxxing, threatening family and stalking.
>>105393781She doesn't care about them. She doesn't need them. She tweeted at every Holomem and that didn't include the homos.
>>105393699>Kiara hanging out with cosplayersyeah...
>>105393783Cope, /we/ love fantasizing about Mr. Nightmare plowing our queen before every stream here
Next year is for holostars
Supernova!
>>105393879Do you always have to reply to yourself? Try making better bait.
>becauae she should be working on her non streaming homeworkAre Jailbird the only fanbase that doesn't want streams?
>>105393760SabaNimi Little Nightmares 3 co-op?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SD_XUXQac4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ADn-vYNlM
>>105393741Damn this animator is god tier too
>>105393957Sabadoob
>>105393957PLEEEEEEASE SABA JUST ONE COLLAB
>>105393813yeah she has the toon force
>>105393741
>>105393587Ollie is too retarded to stop, and Iofi is like a pro homo terrorist
>>105393957i really want to see them together again, nightreign was fun but we really need that sabanimi stream
yeesh
>>105393943More like they unironically want her to graduate for some reason.
>>105393879I mean..its not fantasy
>>105393783How's that different from buying merch by other married entertainers? Especially by the best vtuber.
Nerissa became a master numberfag, this tweet spam strat is kinda shameless but got her a ton of engagement
>>105394023surely this branch has to be uneconomical at this point
>>105394044And 0 sub growth
>>105394044When does she realize twitter isnt real and doesn't translate over to anything then?
>>105392837You mean Ludokano the goat. Advent has quite a few people. Rissa herself has Yomosaka the cute OL artist that is doing that whole Advent vs. Justice animated comic. We have so many for Advent its not even funny.
>>105393943Nerissa was never the best streamer (she relied way too much on collabs and didn't learn how to be entertaining with gaming streams) and most her fans are there for her music. Doesn't help Ms. Wetcat has that aura that has her fans defensive of whatever she does do she doesn't feel bad
>>105393943no there are a lot of holos that barely stream
>>105394023Why don't they merge them into some other group? This is sad.
>>105394034Those other married entertainers are men and if you're gay enough to give them money you're also a lost cause.
>>105394067she's doubling Biboo for the month so far...
>>105394023
>>105394067Growing faster than stream spammer bitchjew
>>105394080She need to collab with holostars already
>>105394112Just because the karaoke
>>105394044if she was a master numberfag she would have farmed on tiktok instead
HAMTARO BROSIT'S OUR TIME
>>105394118
>>105394027>posted this 16 timesobsessed
>>105394044but twitter engagement is unironically bad for you
No seriously what else besides holo could notmori be talking about?
>>105394160the other jobs she does
>>105394094There's multiple one-person "waves" now kek
>>105394160A sponsorship she isn't interested in
>>105394112>>105394127kek obsessed
>>105394160She got Kson pregnant and wants her to have an abortion
>>105394112>>105394127kys brazilian schizo
>>105394160If I were to guess, she volunteered to draw/animate something for a friend and it ended up being a lot more work than she initially thought
>>105394044>Nerissa>Became a master numberfagdid you forget the streams immediately after Fauna, Mumei, and Gura graduated?
AIEEEEEEE FUBU IS A GLOWIE
>>105394160Umg trying to make her do some garbage she doesn't want to probably
>>105394188DEAD NIJINIGGER STOREthe state of obsydia with that pinguin bitch who never stream lmfao
>>105392913Whoa there partner, you don't even have neuro-input for VR and encephalon dive integrated chair invented yet.
>>105394188A lot of consolidation can be done with those 1 person groups. I thought niji was economic.
fubugone..
>>105394105What about Taylor Swift getting married and dropping 29 versions of her new album and making her lesbian fans freak out she's marrying a dude, but they still buy her shit anyway
>>105394214I have no idea who that is, I was just responding to someone who said Rissa had zero subscriber growth using a comparison
>>105394188Why doesn't this have their latest wave?
>>105393943theyre kinda retarded to buy it
>>105394286it's not like they're doing anything anyway anon
>105394273Discordcuck it was posted already
>>105394290They are also dumb as fuck for different reasons. And they're also cucks for thinking they ever had a chance
I miss doob...
>>105394160>>105394186Yeah, blowjobs >>105393215
>>105392837Other than IRyS, HoloEN has largely moved away from Kanauru and hiring other animators for their projects.
>>105394336ayyliums are probing her
>>105394112Is someone botting erb subs so Raora doesn't pass her? She literally doing nothing compared to everyone else there.
>>105394360ERB got 12k watching her unarchived karaoke in JST and has grown her number of Japanese fans quite a bit since getting her 3D model
>>105394353Kiara still needs him for her "press 4" type coombait for numbers
>>105393425This just sounds like Bae's top korean donator tbqh, I hope she stays safe
>>105394432memepress is a meme, pep is finished
>>105394112Is cc ever going to hit 500k?
>>105393943Not really. Outside of this shithole, plenty of fanbases would've told you that they have no problem whatsoever with their oshi working on "non-streaming related homework"Keep in mind that that, and "doesn't want streams" (at all) are different things, though
>>105394360> Is someone botting erb subs so Raora doesn't pass heryes ever time raora gets close erb suddenly get 3-4k subs even though she does stream
>>105394312sure and you use Biboo :)
>>105393961he's part of the same gang of animators with terrible joeboth are 2/3 that animated the Myth anniversary teasers
finding some kromei in the archives
>>105393783>>105394105>>105394333>You are not allowed to enjoy the content of a married womanSEAbros, help me understand this
>>105394633cuck cope
>>105394535>8304000 dollerinos is bad now
>>105394517in about 6-8 months
>>105393781Unloading in her boy womb
>>105392004>>105392039Just adding on, this merch business AraCulture took these indies for a ridehttps://x.com/faptainkantasy/status/1975062998021521623https://docs.google.com/document/d/13I4nn_oEFqT0R7WxeOnUeT1bl_vtvOfFFGVptGbd_zs/edit?tab=t.0https://docs.google.com/document/d/1duH8vUH0t1m8cEO4rWBfu3098B6mI6ZeX1uf56x1-bQ/edit?tab=t.0https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mW9IJdvDwZS-L3gk31xlZ_-aHDd18qWklevpjicC2cQ/edit?tab=t.0https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nF0lX1U9ovQT-2gobLG4p4szInhtKM4jCOllZfpABSg/edit?tab=t.0
>>105394535Actually kind of shocked that the jacket is more popular than the shirt considering the jacket is fucking intrusive to the eye compared to the shirt. At least the t-shirt is haha funny character, the jacket has fucking text and straight up has Nimi's ID on the front>>105394653One too many zeroes and no one is saying it's bad nigga.
>>105394273Kek. Looks like the next graduation is confirmed
>>105394542Yes, I use her genmate that's in the top 10 on vrabi and doesn't have the nebulous 10k gained that FWMC has due to how YT handles public subscriber figures past a million
>>105394712ermm it's actually 2(two) zeroes from the .00, buddy
man /ope/ is really melting down over nerissas new jp arc
>>105394740obsessed
>>105394744You right. But this is why you probably should add commas and . >>105394772They've been melting down since her space.
>>105391456Take this with a grain of salt unless one of us wants to go check it but this might be what Shiori couldn't get from the girls
>>105394772How much of a woman do you have to be to a) give a shit about twitter postingb) be in Nerissa's splitc) give a shit about Nerissa in general
>>105394712that's two too many zeroes anonalthough if that anon had said cents then it would be correct
>>105394772we already know you've been shitposting here too
>>105394273Guess Nimi making tonnes of money without cuts from Cover solidified her decision to pull out of Hololive!
>>105394772It's justified. She alreaddy has the lowest content hours even with 48 hours of rebroadcasting & like 18 hours of watchalongs
>>105394791I already made up my mind to chose not to. thankyou
>>105394789not at all but you do you
>>105392111bae went from nihongo jouzu tier to basically fluent
>>105394712It's not the jackets per se but that the jackets make them feel seen by her. There are actually size options and that means the world to them. Sometimes you just need to know your oshi is listening and cares.
>>105394866i would fucking kill for holo to have sizes
>>105393741What the heck is this youtube feature
>>105394772translation: youre spamming it
Graduation begging Mori of all members is probably the most retarded thing I've heard all day.
>>105394831>without cutstrue the merch just manifest out of thin airnot link mint has said hers was 50% cut a few days ago lol
>>105394553Hopefully kanauru never gets let's into his team
>>105394652>Yagoo is a married man>We've been giving him money for yearsAre we cucks then?
>>105394866>your oshi is listening and cares>nimilmfao
K*ara is next
Did anyone in EN learn japanese while in Holo? No, not counting anyone who moved or lives in Japan or has an interest in Japanese culture.
Ironically, isn't 50% merch actually lower than she would get at Hololive? The girls pay Cover to cover production costs, but they also take almost the entire profit
If I could go back in time, I would have stopped the 4chan hack. /vt/ will never ever recover from it.
>>105394960>The girls pay Cover to cover production costs,No they don't.
>>105394915I mean it is an extremely odd thing to tweet and she must know how worrying it might seem given who she is so why even post it in the first place?
>>105394953honestly the closest is probably kronii
>>105394953Ina went from N4 to N2
>>105394940No because I assume most of us never were gachi for him because we knew he was married off the bat. Nimi didn't even announce it at her debut and let naplings fall for her before dropping the bomb a few months after. That is what makes you cucks
>>105394902Something like feed this video to the algo gods.
How do you bring a cat to Japan do you drug it and stick it in with the rest of the luggage or do airlines let you take them in the cabin if you give the correct excuses
>>105394953>not counting anyone who has an interest in Japanese cultureyou're left with maybe ERB then and she's still shit at JP
>>105394980>>105394981They have an interest in Japanese culture so they don't count
>>105394772its just 2 obese faggots samefagging
>>105394535This doesn't include the set, right? Or the 10 old plushies lol
>>105394953Kronii went from weeb meme phrases to conversational level
>>105395019It does not no
>>105394972Yes, they do for the birthday merch which is why the birthday merch revenue goes nearly entirely back to the talent
>>105394953what kind of retarded question is this, why would someone learn the language if they have no interest in their culture?
>>105394970Same.
>>105394972Yes they do. The money goes through Cover to the manufacturing companies. That's why certain girls "lose" money initially before the sales come inIt's the reverse of how money goes to the girls. Our SCs get paid to Cover's accounts, which then get distributed to the girls individually
>>105394535the plyshy stock was like 1Kthis is rather grim tbqh
>>105394915I shit you not but a literal tranny on a discord I'm in posted it and was gloating about calling it. This person probably never even watched her.
>>105394970hell no this shithole deserved to die because of their jannies
>>105394970>>105395051But towa is so much better for stream discussions when there aren't schizos shitting up the place every other post. I do miss some of the global fun posting though
>>105395070You get a plushie with the bundle as well, man. Over 1500 plushies isn't grim, not sure how you're trying this.
>>105395099>>105395106I prefer just one single place. Fuck the hack. Though the jannies and mods should be tried for warcrimes by their handling of this board.
>>105394970Who cares about this placeIts pretty worthless without people and everyone found a better site to post
>>105395048For business?I think I've read that why south Americans learn Portuguese and why any non Chinese would learn chinese
>>105394970Meh, it's for the better
>>105395126She went from being one of the biggest merch mover in the EN space to not being able to sell out 2K plush for her birthday
>>105395071What discord?
Nimi.... WON....../#/ yungbrowns...... lost....
>>105395138Why would need more than one place right now? For the /#/ shithole?
>>105395157The math for her is more about at what point the drop in sales isn't offset by the higher cut of proceeds
>>105395004I mean why would anyone learn japanese unless they have an interest in the culture or moving there? Your question is weird
>>105395145>>105395182If you don't browse global and never have, like me, there is no single place that feels fast enough. Global was always too fast, but now everywhere is just slow. /#/ may seem fast, but is slow compared to back in the day. And you could also find an occasional good thread on the catalog. That's what I miss.
>>105394974Because she's a retard who thinks people won't connect her rm to her holo stuff
bros, i hate to say it.... but Towa WON.
Niji always winning
>>105394970I mean sure but there would likely be even MORE shitposting here instead of retards trying to double dip only because the other site wouldn't get traffic. The underlying problem is there's not enough manpower to deal with the site, bots, and samefags with the amount of traffic this place used to get. They barely deal with it now with far less traffic.
are birthday streams not that special for indies? Why was the ccv lower than some of the regular gremreaper collab streams?
>>105395172Some medium small anime discord. I bet some of the twitter troons that hate her are prematurely celebrating too while trying to reconcile that she just landed a gig for the gachikuta opening
>>105394987Cope, Nimi wasn't even getting married at her debut, she's still talking about getting 3-4 dresses and Hyuni said she wasn't wearing a ring when they met at Virtual Vacation
>>105395204 (Me)Not to mention, I miss board breaking happenings. That's practically impossible these days since it's so slow.
>>105395209liver status: wonnered
>>105394974>it is an extremely odd thing to tweet It's not. >and she must know how worrying it might seemit doesn't
>>105395232Okay and? What is your point here?
>>105395206agreed
>>105395204I watch streams and jump from split to splitI dont use global or the catalog so I honestly cant relate
>>105391636I mean if the "environment" is being part of a group/corpo like hololive then yes it does define the Vtuber to a large extent that's why we have the concept of a clean slate for new holos you gush over retarded fuckboys on one account and keep unicorn friendly image in your new holo life.
>>105395206Never bet against the twap
>>105394528That happened like one time when they were both about to hit 500k, and if you watched it ERB still would've beaten her to 500k. Raora had a short stint where she did pass ERB during the JP arc but the second ERB actually did something she passed her.
>>105395157selling slower than Shiori with less stocks and no tariffs is wild
>>105395281is ironmouse a different vtuber after she left vshojo?
>>105395197Fair. I was taking the piss on an earlier, similar question but I missed the mark and did not meet the standards /#/ has come to expect. I deeply regret the confusion this has caused. Please be assured that I are taking your feedback seriously. I am committed to implementing corrective actions to deliver a best-in-class experience going forward.
There's a high chance that mr nightmare is Asian and has a small dick given her previous history. Naplings don't need to worry too much
>>105395209>Niji beat HoloJP>Nimi beat HoloENNi_i won
Everyone is leaving blue doritohttps://x.com/ebi_gohan/status/1976921508808360429
>>105395227Trannies are such a baffling and sad existence
anyone got a qrd on IM concert?like what are they doing in the preshow that have more guest than the main event?whats the duration?
>>105394685
>>105395333Oh shit isnt that their chief director of talent acquisition
>>105394970Every cloud has its silver lining. I've never been to Towa and never will, but the JP generals here have had MUCH more breathing room. It used to go 15 minutes to page 11 back in the day. Now it can go an hour or 2. It lets slower JP generals to exist without needing to worry
>>105395211It could have been, but she did the exact same type of BD stream she did has fauna, except this time she has no gen backing her up and her guest were a who and mint lmfao
>>105393943You tried this bait in /ope/, it won't work here. What a silly question.
>>105395211Nimi shouldn't have revealed the debuff guests ahead of time, or just got better ones
>>105395343The funny thing is that there's two literal troons in the same discord that hate her. what are the chances. The first one melted down at her singing go getters
>>105395372I mostly agree though I do think there's maybe too much breathing room. Especially with the large thread limit, you could go months without baking the next theead
my second favorite dutch singing vtuber is doing a fun karaoke streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82PiFNZ1VN4
>>105393943Is there a clip of this?
>>105395333they have like 800 employees, nice everyone you got there
>>105395444Anons never had a job pls undastaand
>>105395333Literally who
>>105395433Probably in reference to her twitter space
>>105395459IF anything 5 years at the same company is incredible nowadays i don't think i've ever stayed more than 2 at the same place
>>105395333>It was a very fun and rewarding five yearsOh, the horror!
I see that Ironmouse is making the most out of her victim arc. She's got Dooby now, all she needs is Saba.
What the hack really did was allow me to have nostalgia for a time I probably never would have had otherwise. My brain can ignore all the bad and miss what /vt/ was.
>>105392099"pull out" not "quit" meaning it's a project rather than a job and it's hard to say because she have two talents music and MV making perhaps IM contracted her to do anime opening for her shitty 600 seats concert or something and it's a giant waste of time considering how overhyped it turned out to be (perhaps she expected more of a real concert)
>>105394972I'm quite surprised how some guys still think that desu. That literally was sisters' excuses for their livers' piss poor merch cut "Holo members get better merch cuts because they have to fund their own merch while our livers don't". No clue why that keeps popping up now and then. Outside of the very rare personal project like Lamy's wine was, the girls pay a grand total of 0 cent on merchs - both personalized and standardized>>105395042>>105395067No, they don't
>>105395543I cant. It was so so shit and the other place was a breath of fresh air from the constant brown stink, Its better this way. Lobotomize every schizo.
>>105395431There are multiple Dutch vtubers?
>>105394970No, the fact it was concurrent with Gura's graduation announcement was enough to make it a necessary thing. I'll always laugh my ass off thinking about all the seething and stillborn shitposts and how it almost feels that it was intentional that they both happened at the same time.
>>105395615This anon is right, hologirls only see 30% of the money.
>>105395639That was funny timing at least, I agree. Kind of like Rushia getting terminated on the same day as Russia invading Ukraine.
>>105395487Been at mine for almost 6, was originally planning on bailing after 2 but I really enjoy it.
>>105395615That's a lot of words to say you don't watch Hololive
>>105392600just wait for the IM concert
>>105395629I wouldn't know. I've never left /vt/. I do agree with lobotomizing what's left of this board except for me.
>>105395639This is true. Discord trannies will never make up for it.
>>105395629he says while posting in the garbage dump thread full of schizos
>>105395542ohdoob sighting
>>105395367sooner or later some heads had to roll for the DEV_IS shitshow I guess
>>105395637Yeah, my #1 is Roca Rourin and my #2 is Tomoe Carmine. There are a few other Dutch VTubers I know and they are all singers funny enough
>>105393425I thought one of the anons here provided context like they were dating or something, or was that the Japanese streamer
>>105393646I don't know why you're always so obsessed with this when it was just a bunch of indies who wanted to collaborate with her.And by the way, Coco did collaborate with a man, newfag.
>>105395659> #WeLoveRussia
>>105395681>>105395650Ogey, sistersShow me any proof that the girls have to pay for their own merch (again, outside of the very rare exception like Lamy's wine initially was). Right, you don't have any.
>>105395729She got into a business partnership with him, and when she wanted to back out he didn't like that.
>>105395720seems like overkill for what, a ~600 person venue?
>>105393699You have to understand there's an agenda and one must always take the chance to punch down on parasocial incels. We're in a post fact world
>>105395748Fucking kek
>>105395750Proof is here >>105395615
So all the holos can get vr chat outfits out the ying yang? I don't see their incentive to use HoloEarth at all
>>105395720That big square is for Saba. She probably did it after following her
>>105395727 it's a 3d artist and illustrator.
>>105395790..Wut?
>>105395803Doesn't VRChat mean the model data is public?
>>105394553>gang of animatorsThat sounds sick
>>105395809why would Saba be in the pre-show with the shiters?
>>105395803According to Matsuri, HoloEarth merch gives them the best cut so there is that
>>105395815So he just hates Unreal Engine lol
>>105395881Is that why fwmc were shilling it?
Black Company?https://x.com/DistantValhalla/status/1976928667482935777>Given the conduct of some of their staff I've met in the wild it doesn't surprise me that bad behavior runs all the way to the top. >I wonder if they thought this would be fine? This industry is oiled by goodwill and good faith. Ransoming someone's IP is never a good look.
>the indie pill
