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>>105453174*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking>https://vt.poi.cat/Hololive sites>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/Twitch sites>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/>https://streamscharts.com/
>>105453178brap
Sora's original song doing numbers
You guys need to improve your schizospotting, calling them the wrong names makes them feel like they're succeeding at sowing confusion
>>105453185Nice!
>>105453031>Retweets the Biboo, Mori and Kronii one>Doesn't retweet the CC oneCoward
>>105453186Wow... incredible stuff
>>105453186>unlike all the other Meet n' Greets I've seen onlinelmao this guy expected a shitty walk-up meet and greet like 2views do at cons
>>105453144Is there a reason needed to hate someone who raids mint over a Holo?
>>105453210The CC one makes no sense, CC wouldn't dodge shit they just kiss normally
>>105453186The dude really dropped his spaghetti in front of his oshi
>>105453225what are you getting out of this? you must realize that no one believes your routine
>>105453236what are you waffling on about?
>>105453210>"do you want *insert holomem">"I want them so bad">"do you want cecilia immergreen">"no..."
>>105453195don't care about your schizo pronouns I will call you whatever monkey I like
>>105453210do cc or gigi ever repost autofister art?
>>105453185I wonder if Sora has any benefits for being za Firsto
>>105453256Mintcuck
>>105453136 https://x.com/hashtag/PockyXhololiveID?t=eirRsSMlSWZVPEBKLWA5LQ&INDOCHADS
>>105453210cause autofister is the most ded
https://x.com/velsdearc/status/1977610061238427852
>>105453265>>105453268indochads I kneel
>>105453268https://x.com/Ging4Runner/status/1977611803329962108
>>105453204Go back
Nimi lost lol
>>105453282https://x.com/sandy_akbar17/status/1977618196002902301
>>105453285>>105453291Based
>>105453295https://x.com/yuurizqing/status/1977489031169732722
>>105453303Docky? Google Docky?
>>105453303https://x.com/jeaneee__/status/1977381268728799400
>>105453315https://x.com/TMunggaran1569/status/1977326088914383310
Damn Nimi really managed to lose to every single holoEN stream today despite the empty prime time slot, and to think that she used to be #2 in EN
>>105453285NIMISEETHE
>>105453260rarely
>>105453333https://x.com/Daxef3/status/1977257066965484016Hope I can snag some when I fly in for the ID concert
>>105453266It’s been 2 days
>>105453334The only #2 Nimi gets now is Mr nightmare's because he's a scatfag
>>105453375Lel
>>105453354you're going? oh man I'm jealous. I've wanted to visit for years
>>105453354this is in-person only right
What did Mori mean by this last stream?
>>105453413Why? Next time you take a dump stick your head into the toilet and take a deep breath before flushing, you'll get the same experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l91jBDymx0A
>>105453260Almost never. Even innocuous ones that's non-shippy stuff of just something they did on stream. Yet for Mori Kronii artGigi does it. Even CC is more open to retweeting stuff like that. It's something I noticed really and it becomes obvious during when CCGG invaded FuwaMoco morning and there's tonnes of art of them, and she didn't retweeted any of them. I think the last art Gigi retweeted that barely alluded to them was like 3 months ago. Call me crazy I think she really really doesn't want that ship to proliferate more than it should
>>105453470You lost troon
Looks like a virtual korean idol group got very lucky with youtube's algorithm for their MV release. 300k views within 24 hours when their subscribers are only around 20k.https://youtu.be/gUoj_Orj7LQ
>>105453185You love to see it
anyone notice how bad the numbers are going for recent hololive music releases? like most of it are struggling to even get to 200k
>>105453231if you're too smooth they'll unironically get the ick
>>105453482>Gigi doesn't want it to become the only thing they're known for and overshadow other Holo to Holo interactions =/= Gigi hates CCGGAre you illiterate
>>105453413Yeah managed to snag a VIP ticket. >>105453420Yeah available from ID convenience storeshttps://x.com/hololive_Id/status/1976150632487846215
>>105453527Keep seething
>>105453186Don't care you and shiori need to kys
>>105453539any idea what the secret cards are?
>>105453539I mean the concert
>>105453502just kpop viewfarming things
>>105453210They're probably tired of autofister fans making a big deal out of every interaction, especially since neither of them are into each other that way. They're just good friends. Gigi probably thought her fans would understand after her speech but grems don't really take a hint
>>105453578why can't holofans execute this properly
>>105453573No online streaming has been announced for the ID concert
>>105453226this is the real truthnvk, cc is the top
>>105453582The speech meant that she is actually in love-love with CC! I'm not delusional shipperscum!
>>105453470>this is the most recent onedamn
>>105453470I’m too lazy to take a screenshot but she retweeted all of thesehttps://x.com/meuol/status/1949872006792462492https://x.com/neidrcj/status/1949864291907379382https://x.com/fukuinu_daddy/status/1949854046577139759https://x.com/yambotrkgk/status/1949980059260838168https://x.com/kukie_nyan/status/1950133689511256291https://x.com/tivetives/status/1950125408961077308
>>105453454easy to say that when you're rich
>>105453582>Grems >When everyone and their mother probably has drawn/animated AutofisterIt's funny since it looks like they want to be careful for it to not to become overbearing, yet still collab a hundred times and do that silly AFO MC.
>>105453552NIJISEETHE
>>105453668Lmao
Another day, another Nimi lost
>>105453655You're replying to the shipschizo
>>105453655do you want them to do a baerys
>>105453573No it's on site only
>>105453683baeRyS died when crats complained about their planned valentines collabwe got caraoke instead thank god
>>105453683Yes
>>105453697Like clockwork
>>105453697Imagine white knighting someone else's wife
Why did Doob hungout with Doki??
>>105453763Why wouldn't the Avengers hang out?
>>105453668
>>105453763To cuck Saba.
>>105453763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyryVawiv3k
>>105453802what are they avenging?
>>105453818What are the Marvel Avengers avenging?
>>105453802Thank Nimi it's DOA, never liked Dookie and Mintleech
>>105453802>Doob and Nimi didn't show up for Nimi's birthday and haven't collabed in months
>>105453818They are avenging the way jp vtuber black companies exploited and mistreated them
why does he look like what I thought an iofi fan would look like?
>>105453839saba is busy prepping for her sololive and album releasedooby is dooby
>>105453873>sololive>albumthere isn't a single cover song on her channel bruh
>>105453885she needs originals for a sololive dumbass
>>105453885Coverslop is for corpo grifters, Saba wants to make something special of her own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzt6SmvGpXk
>>105453918>Feat G.E.MBiboo mindshare?
>>105453889>>105453899how long would it take? a year for 1 ori?
>>105453939You can't rush perfection
indie avengers shitpost has to be the most forced thing in existence, only a phasecuck could conceive of itNot saying that it's impossible that saba collabs with mint or doki at some point, but believing that she'll have some sort of real relationship with them has always been ridiculous
>>105453918oh it's out? fucking NA got shitcanned cos a EUnigger talked about periods lmao
>>105453899Dooby is corpo?https://youtu.be/XEz0khXqsX8
>>105453868looks like a decent hardworking man
su's voice kinda feels out of place on flowglow originals/covers
>>105453995>3 months>80k viewsSmall corpo maybe
>>105454000I just hate that they auto tune the shit out of her voice
why is holoctober drawings not as fun as previous years?
>>105453962ngl collab is a debuff for saba/gura
>>105454047The best artists are dropping hololive
https://x.com/Xross_Stars/status/1977660581088735704Reminder that this new set releases on the same date as the new holoOCG set
>>105453334to be fair saba overlapped her which we all know absolutely rapes her numbers, the only reason she even got 7k was because of saba ending and funneling
>>105454069This thing is popular?
>>105454047hololive is a dying fad
>>105454071>the only reason she even got 7k was because of saba ending and funnelingExactly, so by the end of her stream she had a peak prime time slot to herself and a Saba funnel on top of that and she still couldn't peak above 7k in the absolute best conditions possible
>>105454082it has better art than the holoOCG one
>>105454110I'm retarded but what does OCG stand for?
>>105453839>Doob and Nimi didn't show up for Nimi's birthdaywtf nimi hates nimi?
>>105454110The sad part is you're right, there is so much mediocre art in the holo OCG for some reason. I was hyped for the Marine deck when that set first released but the oshi card has such mid art for some reason, it really pissed me off. All the cards I've seen from the VSPO game look great.
>>105453163her mind works differently and can imagine more stuff like the kid in the little prince. shes basically has high functioning autism
>>105454047iofi didn't make the list this year
>>105454110Okay, but that's not my question. Is it popular?
>>105454113Google it
>>105454128if cc has high function autism then what does mococo have
>>105454082The cards have value on the secondary market but their first big event is in November
>>105454113Official card game
>>105454137organised crime group . . .
>>105454138Low functioning autism, duh
>>105454082No not reallyb
>>105454142forgot pic
>oh golly gee, dramafags used my intentionally vague vaguepost to breed rrats, whoever could have seen this coming - certainly not me, the industry veteran who knows exactly how these people behave!does devilcube really...
>>105454134this thread doesn't really know, if you want real answers then ask in /jp/
>>105454169why are you vague posting bro?
https://youtu.be/CbWhw7CLiB8
>>105454069Like seriously compare this art to the Marine oshi card. I don't know shit about the VSPO game but that card says Leader on it so I assume it's similar to the oshi cards in the holo game. The VSPO looks great while being striking and original, the Marine one looks like something out of one of those merch runs where one guy draws acrylic stands of 30 talents, and this is the most important card for one of the top holo talents. Couldn't they get some kino original Akasa Ai art or something?
>>105454166Highest rarity cards from the latest holoOCG set for comparison
>>105454194it looks like AI too, I'm guessing cover expects people to buy this slop just because its their oshi
>>105454239It doesn't look like AI you retarded faggot it's just mid
>>105454239It's not AI. I've seen some artists with that particular style. Yeah it isn't very good
>>105454265I don't get it, that's a positive post about hololive? What's supposed to be embarrassing about posting that?
>>105454239AI would draw it better
>>105454128https://twitter.com/ceciliaimgreen/status/1977594861131010070Vindicated
>>105453186the 2nd hand embarrassment..
>>105453947I would normally say yes, but she has to have had a good deal of time to think about things. You've got connections, the cash, and a head start to just think for months. Its less someone rushing em out and more like a "you're probably stressing and thinking too hard". There comes a time where you can have all the time in the world, but if you're hung up on it being perfect, nothing gets done. Its why structure is a good thing depending on the person, because they don't get things done due hanging themselves by the hell of a million choices and the inability to choose. Choice paralysis and getting hung up on expectations is a death knell combo. Because even freedom can feel like a chain with those.
The pokemon arc starts in 2 days
Suisei radiates shill energy.
>>105453889>>105454325She will reveal her new OGs at her solo live
>>105454353you know how pain in the ass pokemon perms are
>>105454194>cover usually use shit art and cover drones lap it up anyways>cover uses shit art again and cover drones still lap it upwhy should they change, this is business 101, the one that controls like 70+% of the market (young men) grows fat and lazy because they have no competition and just want more and more profit
>gozaru only has some ENs and choco for curryThats kinda of sad isnt it...gozaru...
>>105454394Do any of the smaller platforms have some neat vtubers?
>>105454425Yea some holos stream on twitch occasionally
>>105454393They fixed the pokemon perms issue half a year ago. They can play basically anything Nintendo day 1 now. Su and Biboo already have it on their schedules the day the game drops.
>>105454415>Ina is there againShe's got a thing for blondes huh..
>>105454434I meant kick and smaller.
i want sololive
>>105454425Kick just has the culture war chuubas
>>105454440>againshe was at iroha's before?
>>105454446What does that mean?
>>105454424Are there any ENs not currently in Japan?
>>105454445Say no more Miko, the next sololive is yours. Anything else?
https://youtu.be/lIz9O21cU_shttps://youtu.be/lIz9O21cU_shttps://youtu.be/lIz9O21cU_s
>>105454457Kronii, Shiori, ERB, CC, GG
Iroha and bae both watch the same homo. If only i can turn back time and keep chloe and graduate iroha.
>>105454455DEMOCRATS BADWOMAN BADMUSLIMS OUTBROWNIES OUTAMERICA NEEDS TO BE 100% WASP (with the exception of me your based asian/hispanic culture war chuuba)
https://youtu.be/F1PRA4IBP8ckobo would've been perfect if she didn't do the homo collabs.She's like the ID ver of gura but she actually releases originals and covers. She even writes her own lyrics
>>105454357You always want to just out out the originals, slowly but surely, setup the tracklist. A live is fine down the road, you can get by with karaokes or covers while sprinkling one original omce in a bit until the library is full enough. Trying to throw the live out and then the songs all at once doesn't give people time to digest it and has a good chance of the album not doing so hot, whatever popularity you have. I guess you can say you're making an album for the live for sale and it might do well based on immediate popularity because hey, people want to support you. But if you're an artist proud of your work, you want people to enjoy it, not just think, "oh, this person released something, I'll buy it" without thinking. Its why you can have artists who rack up record sales but if something ain't popping where people are making fanvids or tiktoks of it, its not satisfying. Probably why so many do the shorts not just to hit the algo, but because they want to feel people are enjoying it.
>>105454393Saba cuck...
>>105454481So I guess there are no JP chuubas on the smaller ones?
what reason could they have to be at iroha's place? are they gonna go to a rave afterwards?
>>105454479Who?
>>105454482She's a brat please understand
>>105454482Those Altare collabs probably cost Cover six to seven figures in revenue
How do VSPO have such a diehard fanbase when they don't farm gachi as much as Hololive?
>>105454535Everywhere it's the same thing>You asked me to care about this, and now you're changing it to something I don't like>What do you mean you "don't care">It's for someone else now?>Fuck you!>...>OMG oldfags are so toxic, they bully the wholesome unity fans, we need to push them out of the community
>>105454472>Bae's BokuBae is trans?
>>105454498Orange JP homo
>>105454555quintuple retard
>>105454555just austrarianactually how does haato refer to herself?
>>105453966to be clear, its because said euro was the best player of NA and thus its face, so when he talked shit about periods the entire NA scene had to be deleted LMAO
>>105454562Iroha watches Roberu?
>all shitters except mori
>>105454562Iroha watches Kiara?
>>105454573I don't see a single mention on tower or the archive so I assume we have another homosexual filipino man sharing his fantasies ITT
>>105454581>all shitters except moriWho is a brapper
>>105454481That is just an unironic pickme. Though, lets be honest, those are being brought to heel because they're finding out rather quick it ain't worth that degradation for the short term payout. Like that that one dude who ran a burger place themed after a certain public official and got deported. I guess I can understand vtubers who fall in line more easily, since for more "nerdy" hobbies some people feel the best way to avoid pain or ridicule is to follow the path of least resistance, i.e "be the nerd who makes fun of nerds". But that seems more like standard indie practice.
When an indie like Saba or Nimi sells merch, how much do they make? Like how is the profit split? So using Nimi as an example for that was recent, lets say each jacket was $100 and she sold 1000 of them, that's $100K. Assuming the split is 50%, then retards will say she instantly made $50K, but in reality it's a lot less than that, isn't it? Surely they're splitting the profit margin. So if the manufacturing and shipping costs $50, that means for each jacket sold, you're making $50 profit, and Nimi would get $25 of that of each jacket, excluding taxes. Am I being retarded and missing something?
>>105454581You take that back, Su is an excellent hire
>>105454554MtGfags were okay with the gay sex cards for decades though, these complaints are because they're making crossover sets with Final Fantasy and Marvel now and the people who supported the gay dads kissing card think that cheapens the iconic AI generated generic fantasy slop identity of MtG
>>105454595no anon, that was when the>mainstream audiencewere going to watch the holostars and expand the box to new fans
>>105454594Anon she sent him a superchat before
https://youtu.be/UQdWjSenmdg
>>105454602>Am I being retarded and missing something?yes>if the manufacturing and shipping costs $50more like it costs 10 bucks for each jacket
>>105454618Source?
>>105454618I'm sure she did, Juan. Look out little buddy I think your pot of cow shit is boiling over in the kitchen.
>>105454626>more like it costs 10 bucks for each jacketI don't think those jackets are made by SEA children, Nimi would probably go with a company with ethics.
>>105454640All clothing in the world is made by sea children or african kids
>>105454618Anon talents can't superchat each other because that would be money laundering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdCyx6wW2bM
>>105454602For indies you can't really tell. It depends on how much they do on their own, and on the contract if they decide to outsource something. I would assume Nimi gets at least 50%.
>hajime come sit on my lapWtf ina is an oji-san?
https://youtu.be/xVSt0wY5NSM
DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>105453763I’m pretty sure shes had more Doki collabs than Saba or Nimi though she’s done more with Henya than any of them
>Fauna is gone>Full gen promise song production skyrocketsI'm noticing
https://x.com/Kojima_Hideo/status/1977541647022817670
>>105454681Katy Perry ass song it's kino
>>105454194Nobody is ever going to care about your Brave group slop faggot call me in 2 years when Brave has gone bankrupt and sold VSPO to the Saudis
>>105454239illustrator is on the card….
>Mori asks for a favor>Hololive respondshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15zHmwhyiX4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE48pAmkC0M
Chammers is here too
Pebbles look like this??
>>105454482I mean, there is more to it, like how its pretty transparent that she wants that diva lifestyle, asking for fans of other talents to join your membership (not subscribe to your channel, join your membership), means people can see you love the taste of those greenbacks flowing and want that bag quick. Doesn't help she was one of the last to get that meteoric push at the start from basically nothing. She's talented no doubt though, despite the clear odd decisions.
>>105454728>Ilust: NOMISAKIinstead of>Ilust: ChatGPTAt least we know who was the prompt engineer lmao
>>105454640Well yeah Bangladesh and Pakistan are the go to sweatshop sites not SEA
Suisei’s playing tamagotchi still
>>105454640It's ethical to make sure those children have money to not starve
>>105454656Between the manufacturing costs and the profit split, I'll be very surprised if she gets more than 25% of the base price you pay
>>105454737Only fempebblesMale pebbles look like aztec god of fitness
>>105454737Damn. When's the next pebblephile meet up?
Chilly today. Good day for streams
Twaphttps://youtu.be/15zHmwhyiX4https://youtu.be/15zHmwhyiX4https://youtu.be/15zHmwhyiX4
>>105454703I just think at this point in time they just figured stuff out. Its not like they didn't have group songs, they just don't come out the same clip as say, Advent, who has three more songs in a series coming. Plus, we had the group musical of all 5 last year, as well as many all EN songs the past couple years.
>>105454818I meant at least 50% of the profits.
Wait are they all physically there
>>105454581Ina gets better viewership than Mori
>>105454860No they are astral projecting you dumb fuck
>>105454866You know telephones are a thing now right
>>105454737Dang girl, can you show your boobs next
>>105454860Yea iroha left an open orgy invite
>>105454737Bijou has female fans? I thought all her watchers were lolicons.
>>105454820The male Pebbles should be rizzing them up then. Didn't that prime femPebble get married to a Ruffian?
Is this what an orgy looks like?
>>105454872WHAT? I bet a shiny quarter on how Graham Bell trinket would be a flop!
>>105454737There's some really hot femgrems
>>105454732>>105442427
>>105454872NTA, but did you expect Iroha to eat curry alone while waiting for calls after she invited Holo members for curry? She might as well just make it a totsu and leave the curry out then
>W-WAIT, WHAT!?1) Angry Birds have a fandom?2) What the fuck is going in with it?
I like this art
>>105454707And I was complaining about the Neymar token in yugioh, now I know it could be worse
>>105442427>paidIt's literally just Cover mass producing shorts to drum up interest, they do it all the fucking time for new song releases that have "TikTok compatible" sections.None of the Holos are dancing there, it's just Cover having the motion data and applying it to their models.
THEY ARE FEEDING SU LIVE
>>105454912The pink bird probably announced her marriage.
>>105454732EN members who don't participate in this either aren't considered Mori's true friends, or are considered shitters not worthy of an invite by Mori, right?
>>105454901>Mori is rich enough to pay nearly entire HoloEN, HoloID and some top HoloJPholy shit, she's gonna be on the next Forbes cover
>>105454555tomboy
That's a lot of guests on Iroha stream, she must've paid fortune for their appearance fees
>>105454959Hololive members can be bought by food, curry in this case
>>105453862>girls were literal who 3 view tier before joining holo>council and myth have made millions>according to selen herself she made over 200k annually in niji but wasted it all on projects that had zero ROI, so she decided to sudoku herself>le evil corpos are bad somehow
>>105454897I've met some of them in AFO and AnimeExpo, and I swear 60% of them are lesbians including the heely girl what the fuck
>>105454925While I'm not thinking she's paying out people, what proof is there that this wasn't just people wanting to do it with her and/or asking as friends? Kiara does it all the time.
>>105454959She's gonna pay them all with her body after the stream. Or during it if we're lucky
>>105454602Each Jacket cost $10-$15 to make. So the company pays the $10 to get the jacket made at the printing press/factory, then they ask Nimi for $30, thus the store company makes $20 in profit for each shirt made. Nimi then charges the costumer $100 for the jacket. So out of the $100, $30 goes to the merch company. Nimi keeps $70
>>105454618Flip like you talk a lot but never show any receipts
>>105454985Reminder that Pekora has lost almost 50k USD during her horse racing gamble streams this year (so far) and it barely even fazed her.
>>105454994She probably just dropped a preview shorts on Holo Discord and asked if anyone want to participate with their models. Doubt she is paying any at all.
>>105454935No she's gonna go broke.
Of course top streamers make real good cash. Even a runt like Raora isnt going to be struggling now. Mori's buying a house in Japan of all places
>>105455026that's only cause of those fucking sellout fees after her second live...
>>105453174That's an amazing prostitute-coded Suisei, fantastic.
>>105453802kinounited against black corpos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsEmj-yvN3E
>>105455067tldr?
>>105455067>0 vidéo about Clara yabOh It's another Fishman cocksucker
>>105455102>Having empathy is a yab now
Fuwamoco ended so what now?
>Vivi is there now
>>105454925This right here, none of the Holomen in the shorts actually recorded themselves dancing to that. Cover just made the shorts the same way they do other random short animations. And then told the respective talents to upload the short on their channel. But I'm sure Mori had to pay the holomen something to make them upload those shorts.
>>105455112>Empathy in question
>>105454069Let's face it, holoOCG will be mogged and there's nothing we can do about it.
>>105455040Well, the only problem I think with building a house in Japan is how volatile the land is. High chance for disastrous tsunami depending on location or disastrous earthquake makes not a good place to try setting down roots with that investment. Like trying to now build a house in Florida.
>>105455138When will this stupid corp die. Almost as bad as Wactor with how much drama it has
>>105454732https://youtu.be/ywgzfy98PI8Is Bae the only one who isn't MMD?
>>105455136>What does holostars collabing with popular production girls because they make a lot of unhinged content despite pissing off unicorns have to do with MtG
>>105455182She didn't even make fun of him is the funny part. On the Instagram she made, she said he shouldn't have died but his rhetoric was harmful. This caused them to have a meltdown. They're calling her a horrible person when she tries to communicate lmao. I thought she laughed at Kirk's death or some shit
>>105455159Anon, tons of people / family have been settling down in Florida and Japan for decades or even hundred of years without any issues. It's not *that* disastrous
>>105455182i'm not gonna lie, Clara was at fault too, while the others phase girls pandered to their fanbase she just called them pickmewhores in her priv acc
>>105455164You cannot kill that which is already dead. What you seen has been necromancy.
>>105455212survivorship bias anon, the dead won't tell you about their issues
>>105455182They already got exposed for being snowflakes with them trying to cancel Jimmy Kimmel. They also tried it on a smaller scale last year when they tried to cancel Destiny over him making fun of Trump's assassination thing.
>>105455182No one has any principles or beliefs. When I was growing up libs were the irreverent free speech advocates shocking the squares by attacking their sacred cows while conservative christians tried to cancel them. Then the rebellious kids got real jobs in media, government and academia and started enforcing their worldview, so chuds became the insurgent branch of American politics THEY were the ones in favor of free speech and opposed to surveillance. Then they couped the libs and replaced them and we're currently seeing the positions invert again. This time libs like guns and conservatives are deeply sensitive to problematic jokes, which are literally violence.
>>105455096https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbBi1FOmn2A
>>105455168That guy sure went to a lot of effort to "prove" something that's immediately obvious to everyone and has been done countless times prior to this.
>>105455191>holostars collabing with popular production girls because they make a lot of unhinged contentWhat the fuck does this even mean you schizoThe Magic crossovers exist because they are genuinely popular, Magic was in a bit of a rut because no one actually played their game other than a small circuit of psychopathic pros at the top level and a handful of polycules in Seattle running EDH locals, then they figured out that if they put popular IPs on their cards instead of black trans sorceresses people would actually start buying their product again. The homos are just failed and unpopular in every way and when they are shoved into holo content it's because a handful of troons in management don't want their pet project to die. These two situations have nothing to do with each other.
>>105455224Damn she didn't have to say the truth so hard
>>105455138Is the fishfag subsidizing all the talents costs? I cant imagine any of them are earning their wage through merch sales/SC/members.
>Ollie birthday 3d liveWhat is the expectation there?
>>105455275Dancing. Ollie cringe. And some nice funny moments
>>105455275How many homos on this?
>>105455254that's like calling holos pickmewhores for not collabing with the homos
>>105455253Nta, but if this is true> they figured out that if they put popular IPs on their cards instead of black trans sorceresses people would actually start buying their product againThen why did they make Aragorn black?
>>105455292R
>>105455112Selective empathy. Bought and paid for empathy.
>>105455274*The cross over**demographic*Sorry about that
>>105455274No, Magic's cross overs are literally the same as Holo x (insert Game) crossovers. Except they go the full way and actually put the (insert game) characters into their card game while game companies don't actually put the Hologirls in their games, with a few exceptions.
>>105455286>>105455287Meant numberswise, I don't know what she usually gets
>>105455305All empathy is selective tard, if you had empathy for every little rock in universe you would be emotionally dead in matter of seconds.
>>105455253Yeah like Assassin's creed right?They thought adding a homo crossover to the hololive universe would bring in new fans. It flopped because they weren't meta and fans who bought homo packs found themselves unable to play with hololive purists. They tried altering the meta to force adoption but players boycotted instead. The discourse in the community perfectly mirrors what happened here, because it turns out the people involved have been rehearsing these arguments in other captive fanbases. Homobegging is just asking Cover to buff holostars/nerf hololive so that incelchuds will be forced to play with them.
>>1054552871
>>105455299The Lord of the Rings set was being worked on way back in like 2020/2021 back when most everyone was super Woke Pilled.
>>105455287Kanata is there, so 0
>>105455299Because the people behind the crossover sets are still the same ones who made the black trans sorceresses and their ideology hasn't changed, it's just that the popular IP effect can be strong enough to drive sales despite the forced peg legged hijabi lesbian representation while the MtG IP isn't.
>>105455015She's down 2 mil yen in her whole gambling carrer not 50 fucking thousands in one
sex with korone
>>105455335Woke didn't exist untll 2018Then it was basically non-existent until 2020 In 2022 no one knew what woke meantAnd now it's just a scapegoatYou can't call everything you dislike woke
>>105455010Why the fuck would they let a woman set the price?
>>105455275Higher numbers than Nimi's and taking today's cripple gold from Saba
>>105455346That Rio homo is already there
>>105455314They pushed homocollabs to acquire an audience that wouldn't ordinarily watch at the cost of alienating existing fans. They absolutely were trying to replace those existing fans with a different demographic, one that would also support holostars--or they thought those fans were too invested to leave, like magic players. Either way they were trying to drive homo fans to holo channels, because they thought that was their new growth sector.
>>105455371I think it's funny they used DEI as a campaign issue and then you see the pros they picked to lead important us agencies. The FBI dude literally wrote a trump dickriding book, that's just pathetic man
>decided to check out this freo dude because i heard he's homophobic>he sounds like a faggotWhat
>>105455322>They thought adding a homo crossover to the hololive universe would bring in new fans.No, they might have originally thought that the homo branch in general would be able to attract new fans when they created it 6 years ago or whatever, but the "forced" mixed collabs that are the actual problem have always been a case of trying to save the failing homo branch because (from their perspective) it's not good for a Cover project to fail so publicly once they've committed to it and not a case of trying to attract a new audience to hololive.
>>105455371WHAT
>>105455371Woke started in 2015 technically when people where crying about The Force Awakens and star Wars having a female lead. But it was very minor. Then in 2019 when Captain Marvel was hitting theaters, the anti-woke campaigns started to ramp up. Then in 2020/2021 that's when JK Rowling and Dave Chappelle started their ani-trans arcs, which got the "wokes" fired up as well. And now the anti-woke vs the "wokes" war is still raging on.
>>105455390>They absolutely were trying to replace those existing fans with a different demographicSource?
>>105455430(me)also that 'Stay Woke" phrase was coined by Kanye West. Which is funny as fuck, cause he's anti-woke now.
cute ID mumeihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nb1Rp58Odg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehn6S85YIk0
>>105455168Bae probably. Not sure what the issue though, this is not uncommon to use MMD for these dance shorts. Not all of them have the time to record their own dance.
>>105455322>Homobegging is just asking Cover to buff holostars/nerf hololive so that incelchuds will be forced to play with themwell put. in general I'd also peg it as >so that incelchuds will get mad because the point of the homobegging was never ever legitimate interest in them but just trying to annoy Hololive fans through a deniably sophistry mechanism of trying to trick Cover into thinking it's actually really desired, aka 'popular demand'
>>105455305Actually looking at it what a weird fucking dramachannel with curiously 0 phase at all
>>105455443Do you think the grim era was intended to sustain existing hololive fans and bring more in? Can you explain a little? Maybe you think ignoring EN for two years while spamming homos and forcing them on the audience was fanservice to build consumer loyalty? I'm really interested to hear your thinking.
I like it when my oishi is fat
forsenInsane
>>105455314Anon tempus itself was a rushed response to luxiem which at the time was building a monopoly on the female audience fast
>>105455452Nah no issue. Just suprised she took the time to mocap the dance herself. Wonder if Hajime posted one will she use MMD or use mocap.
They made the male branch and did male collabs because the "mainstream" streamers are mostly male so logic implied the vtuber that will enter the normalfag mindshare would be more likely to be a dude, just see how they rushed HomostarsEN when Luxiem started pulling the big bucks
Cringe samefag
>>105455309It's still an attempt to broaden the costumer base
>>105455245Things have been pretty consistent, the drug war ended up being a sham, guns were already illegally traded in gun shows which is why the disingenuous rhetoric of the right about cartels in other countries being armed to the teeth is so funny. Have to get the product somewhere, and its not from left leaning sources. Thats one fallacy amongst many. Crime is another thing, where immigrants were used and demonized like most minorites were, but when sweeping idiotic measures were taken, they cripple various industries. If anything, the right has become that much more snowflake like over time. The fact morons actually laid out they've setup for decades, playbook on how to pretty much cripple the government from the inside out to a hollow shell to then say, "yeah the left did this" when it falls out from under them will be the funniest thing ever. We've got bribery and mafia like trades running in the government like its a regular Monday morning.
>>105455314Not exactly the female audience. I think they're going after the “general audience”. They saw Niji’s success at the time with a mixed branch and decided to go all in on the homo agenda
>>105455445Zeta got millions subs? That's incredible, is there any clip of Axel congratulating her?
>>105455469Do you think the grim era was deliberately orchestrated to enact a Great Replacement of hololive fans with evil nijisisters and not just incompetent management diverting resources from their already successful and established branch to try and build up a homo branch?
>>105455549I do think that yes
>>105455526*zaps you*
Weirdo got plapped by jannies
>>105455573And of course when things don't go his way rightoid resorts to aggression.
>>105455523I mean everything they do is an attempt to broaden their audiences. Them focusing more on commander in the first place was an attempt to broaden their reach to casual mtg players, them starting to do alternate art cards was an attempt to bring in the pokemon collectors who collect fancy art cards. And UB is an attempt to get people who aren't into Magic, to get into Magic.
>>105455590I was mainly just curious about what kinda poltard you were
/#/ - politics and business general
>>105455619Nothing if off topic in the /#/ thread
kek subaru pushed korone to win
>>105455532>>105455493My point is that they have never tried to change hololive's audience. They started hololive and it became successful with a certain type of audience. Then they started looking for other projects they could do and they thought that an all male hololive counterpart could do well and attract a different audience for themselves. Then they tried that and it didn't work so they now had a failing project on their hands and they started trying to save it because failing projects aren't good. And an obvious way (misguided as it may have been) to try and save the terminally unpopular homo project was to get the large existing holo fanbase to watch the homos too, which is what drove the push for mixed collabs. It was never about replacing holo fans, it was just the only way they could find to try and prop up the homos once it became clear that they weren't going to succeed on their own. Yes, the goal of the homos was to get an audience of their own, obviously, but that was not related to the collabs.
>>105455619And holostars 24/7
https://youtu.be/Iv6mKLWtLWIWhy is Nene so unlucky with managers? Also looks like Lamy is getting someone fired.
>>105455625homo are
>>105455650Oops wrong frame
>>105455642>My point is that they have never tried to change hololive's audienceBro they tried to weed out everyone who complained about homocollabs until they realized how many people were complaining
>>105455469They started the Homo program to get new audiences, not to replace the EN audience. The EN audience was gonna be there no matter what, as long as their favorite EN talent was there of course. And nobody really knew how the fanbase was gonna react to the new Homo branch, Yagoo was probably hoping they'd catch surprise fire just like the first EN wave did. But that didn't happen.
>>105455667Source?
>>105455650Well Ririka has the same problem, not sure if it's just luck
>>105455677Did you forget the shitshow 2022 was already?
>>105455642>YES Cover has repeatedly invested in content directly opposed to their audience's taste>YES Cover has prioritized growth markets over fan satisfaction>YES Cover tried forcing total unity which would kill the unicorns>YES every new project since 2020 has centered around holostars>but they would NEVER EVER EVER try to replace their fans with a different audience
>>105455698When did they try to weed out everyone who complained and how?
>>105455642>and they thought that an all male hololive counterpart could do well and attract a different audience for themselves. >Then they tried that and it didn't work so they now had a failing project on their hands and they started trying to save itI disagree and would agree if you were talking about ReGloss. Everything about Tempus from day one was trying to market them to the girls (predominantly male) audience using all of the girls means of communication (Twitter accounts, Reddit Forums) under the misguided belief that because the JP homos were tolerated, if they pushed the EN homos a little bit more effusively the girls audience would accept them as "male Hololive".It failed miserably but that was the idea from day one and it was all the brainchild of that genius >pic related
no amount of Hololive shilling will make Japan care about sonic
https://www.youtube.com/live/eYLNO0v7ylg?si=sy3CrvsdlPqdcBfl
>>105455704>j-just one more timeloop about the death of hololive on /#/ and phase connect will win for sure!!
>>105455698The Kronii statement
>>105455727The Kronii statement, regardless of everything that has happened since then, was sadly a result of Kronii's own retardation.
Nice thread
>>105453195Luv Kiara'Ate MintSimple as
>>105455708Do we really have to go through this timeloop again? Would you agree that what Shiori did early this year was an attempt to weed out certain fans? If yes then the same happened in 2022
>>105453174Recent Clip Numbers>>105388061>>105388073>>105388092
Leech Harder Niji Whore
>>105455778Only homosexuals don't like Mint, because Minto cuteo.
>>105453174* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY * >33,396: Miko (Hololive)>29,548: Lauren (Nijisanji)>29,099: Koyori (Hololive)>27,418: Kanae (Nijisanji)>26,443: Pekora (Hololive)>25,831: Iroha (Hololive)>25,243: Kanae (Nijisanji)>21,550: Fubuki (Hololive)>21,532: Ririka (Hololive)>21,018: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>20,734: Toya (Nijisanji)>20,474: Lamy (Hololive)>17,982: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>15,137: Ex Albio (Nijisanji)>15,045: Choco (Hololive)>14,959: Hinano (VSPO)>14,393: Bijou (Hololive)>14,378: Met (VSPO)>14,348: Botan (Hololive)>12,880: Rou (Nijisanji)>12,818: Mio (Hololive)>12,673: Fubuki (Hololive)>12,580: Ars (Nijisanji)>12,245: Koyori (Hololive)>11,842: Lize (Nijisanji)>11,632: Aki (Hololive)>10,554: Ririca (Indie)
>>105455549Considering everything that they did, yes i do think so
>>105455667>Bro they tried to weed out everyone who complained about homocollabs>>105455677>Source?This could easily have that wojak with "citation needed" hat on top.>>105455708>When did they try to weed out everyone who complained and how?I mentioned this contemporarily (pic related) and the short summary is that a segment of the audience AND parts of the public facing staff (>T-Chan, in particularcreated a very asymmetric situation where it was permissible to hold the following opinion>I would prefer that the girls would collab more with the Holostarsbut not permissible to hold the opposition opinion>I would prefer that the girls would NOT collab with the HolostarsNotice that this is just a matter of preference and that was the only "forbidden" preference. One could easily say "I would prefer the girls to play more APEX / I would prefer the girls not to play APEX at all" and there would be no pushback in either case.It culminated with T-Chan locking the *** Hololive *** reddit during Ame's birthday specifically so people wouldn't complain about the debut of another homo gen when the GRIM era was in full effect and Kiara was even streaming while sick to avoid create a bigger gap in the schedule of streams.I understand that sometimes the idea of asking these questions is to try to poke holes in the answer and discredit the whole thing and pretend it didn't happen but, for most people here, they remember it as you have just been told.
Everyone shut up. Ollie on the telly
>>105455761Kronii's and Mori's drama were a result of not being familiar enough with how things were in reality plus omegatranny trying to change holoEN's direction played a huge role.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLNO0v7ylghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLNO0v7ylghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLNO0v7ylgOllie is live btw, I am watching
We're all watching Ollie's 3D live here
>>105455808OCT 2025 GOLD>1) 92,847: Korone (hololive) birthday collab stream [18]>2) 68,374: Suisei (hololive) Important Announcement + new miComet outfit reveals [24]>3) 69,410: Miko (hololive) FubuMio vs miComet clubhouse 51 [23]>4) 49,837: Miko (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 Sakurasaki HS Year 2 [25]>5) 105,025: Fubuki (hololive) 3DLIVE Birthday [32]>6) 40,093: Marine (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 AHOY Academy Year 3 [19]>7) 34,747: Pekora (hololive) Marika DX8 [17]>8) 52,995: Subaru (Hololive)>9) 95,687: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>10) 55,693: Luna (Hololive) >11) 91,899: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>12) 33,396: Miko (Hololive)> PER COMPANY9x: hololive2x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER2x: Miko, Subaru, Kuzuha1x: Korone, Suisei, Fubuki, Marine, Pekora, Kuzuha, Luna
>>105455465
>>105455650>manager is new>thinks her job is to control talent's contentfucking retards...towa would tell her to suck her cock immediately
grim
>>105455250This is just women being women. Call me when a holo yab happens.
>>105455845OCT 2025 SILVER>1) 45,197: Miko (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 Sakurasaki HS Year 2>2) 30,541: Lauren (nijisanji) GTA5 MADTOWN>3) 47,275: Koyori (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 BBQ>4) 49,718: Subaru (hololive) Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 finale>5) 59,159: Ren Kisaragi (VSPO) VSPO pop quiz>6) 28,030: Miko (hololive) Oshaberi king>7) 28,578: Ririka (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 GENKAIJO HS Year 2>8) 45,257: Miko (Hololive)>9) 32,991: Gwelu (Nijisanji)>10) 38,032: Lauren (Nijisanji) >11) 45,458: Miko (Hololive)>12) 29,548: Lauren (Nijisanji) > PER COMPANY7x: hololive4x: nijisanji1x: VSPO4x: Miko1x: Lauren, Koyori, Subaru, Ren Kisaragi, Ririka, Gwelu, Lauren
>>105455796>Would you agree that what Shiori did early this year was an attempt to weed out certain fans?No? She collabed with the homos because she wanted to, just like all of her other collabs. She talked about that during her debut and throughout her time in hololive she kept interacting with the homos on twitter and even randomly bringing them up on her own stream. She was already banning/blocking people who talked shit about the homos before she ever collabed with them. The small handful of homo collabs she has done this year were not a departure from anything she was doing before despite the shitposting and retarded culture wars here. She likely didn't collab with them directly earlier for the same reason why she hasn't done a "1 on 1" collab with FWMC yet despite all of Advent being close, she's just a weirdo with collabs.
>>105455825>When they decided to shit on their fans for mainstream appealEh, I don't think Hololive is at that point right now unless I'm watching Hololive wrong.My relationship with my favourite girl and her usual collab partners (Okayu, GAMERS and the rest of the JP girls) changed very little in these five years and whatever change that happened I consider it an improvement (like Okayu getting her sololives).
10K DOOOOORRYYAAAA
>>105455857OCT 2025 BRONZE>1) 38,576: Lauren (nijisanji) GTA5 MADTOWN>2) 29,494: Kanae (nijisanji) MADTOWN #2>3) 44,212: Marine (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 AHOY Academy Year 2>4) 34,559: Subaru (hololive) Zatsudan>5) 41,446: Miko (hololive) Horseracing>6) 23,851: Gwelu (nijisanji) collab>7) 26,180: Moka (VSPO) Street Fighter League: PRO-JP 2025>8) 42,460: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>9) 31,467: Hololive English (Hololive)>10) 27,644: Kanae (Nijisanji)>11) 33,464: Kanae (Nijisanji)>12) 29,099: Koyori (Hololive)> PER COMPANY6x: nijisanji4x: hololive1x: VSPO> PER STREAMER2x: Kanae1x: Lauren, Marine, Subaru, Miko, Gwelu, Moka, Kuzuha, Hololive English, Koyori
>>105455549It sure was both but I'd be lying if I said I didn't believe at the time it was only the former happening
the twilight fag gets spicy on his alts kek
>>105455501Some guy has been shitting on the guest orpheus dance shorts here. That's where the assumption comes from.
>>105455720It's actually insanse how niche Sonic is in Japan.Holo Hanafuda Switch physical sales outsold this Sonic Racing games PS5+Switch lol
>>105455704they weren't replacing the chud fansCover (correctly) believed the live fans to be captured, and thus would never leave. It allowed them to push the less successful male holo branch. Because fans won't leave but the girls did
>>105455871OCT 2025 HIGHLANDER>1) 92,847: Korone (hololive) birthday collab stream>2) 68,374: Suisei (hololive) Important Announcement + new miComet outfit reveals>3) 69,410: Miko (hololive) FubuMio vs miComet clubhouse 51>4) 49,718: Subaru (hololive) Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 finale [S]>5) 105,025: Fubuki (hololive) 3DLIVE Birthday>6) 40,093: Marine (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 AHOY Academy Year 3>7) 34,747: Pekora (hololive) Marika DX8>8) 42,460: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>9) 32,991: Gwelu (Nijisanji)>10) 55,693: Luna (Hololive)>11) 33,464: Kanae (Nijisanji)>12) 29,548: Lauren (Nijisanji)> PER COMPANY9x: hololive 3x: Nijisanji
>>105453210This art would cause discussion in the mentally ill shipping community since its inaccurate>>105453470I think its better this wayThey being "careful" about the shipping material kinda "confirms" things and also gives the space for the fans to be freaks like GG wanted to
>>105455889OCT 2025 holoID>1) 3,054: Zeta (Clover Pits)>2) 1,507: Reine (CloverPit)>3) 7,990: Kaela (Easy Delivery Co.)>4) 2,645: Iofi (Honkai Star Rail)>5) 1,150: Risu (Whisper of the House)>6) 6,616: Kaela (Easy Delivery Co.)>7) 3,006: Reine (No Sleep For Kaname Date)>8) 10,403: Ollie>9) 2,825: Ollie>10) 5,233: Risu>11) 4,034: Kaela>12) 4,561: Zeta> PER STREAMER3x: Kaela2x: Reine, Ollie, Risu, Zeta1x: Iofi
>>105455847She would but Nene doesn't like talking about her problems to others.https://youtu.be/KPbQLD0FB48
>>105455549I'm with >>105455874, back then it truly looked like the EN management wanted to pull a switcheroo and trade their existing audience for a potentially bigger one.Looking back it looks more like a heavy handed attempt to "have their cake and eat it too" coupled with a social media team that hated Hololive and only used it to try to prop their favourite ones, something that lasted unchanged until TWO THOUSAND AND TWENTY FUCKING FUCK until Mori put her foot down
>>105455900OCT 2025 Floor tally>1) 10,480: Fuwa (nijisanji) nijiMUFG [18]>2) 11,103: Ina (hololive) Inacademy: Drawing [24]>3) 10,700: Nene (hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator [23]>4) 10,956: Kagami (nijisanji) Pokemon Trading Card Game Pocket [25]>5) 10,377: Cammy (nijisanji) Niji mahjong L league coach room [32]>6) 11,019: Bae (hololive) Stellar Blade [19]>7) 10,124: Luna (hololive) MonHun Wilds [17]>8) 10,220: Koyori (Hololive)>9) 10,070: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>10) 10,129: Ina (Hololive)>11) 10,169: Ars (Nijisanji)>12) 10,554: Ririca (Indie) > PER COMPANY5x: nijisanji6x: hololive1x: Indie> PER STREAMER1x: Fuwa, Ina, Nene, Kagami, Cammy, Bae, Luna, Koyori, Ibrahim, Ina, Ars, Ririca
>They are having fun more with SonikuMarioka bros...
>>105453174100k by holos in 20251. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)42. Sakura Miko Switch 2 GET announcement (Miko/22-06)43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)45. Pekomama holomem totsumatchi (Pekora/16-07)46. Houshou Marine Bday 3DLive (Marine/30-07)47. Guess which holomem the present is from? (Miko/03-08)48. Best loser Smash tournament (Miko/06-08)49. Usada Pekora 6th Anniversary 3D Live (Pekora/31-08)50. Nakiri Ayame 7th Anniversary 3D Live (Ayame/03-09)51. Shishiro Botan Bday 3DLive (Botan/08-09)52. PekoLamy watermelon exploding offcollab (Pekora/15-09)53. Shirakami Fubuki Bday 3DLive (Fubuki/05-10)# of 100k streams last year: 58
grim numbers for a 3D and JP doesn’t give a fuck and streams over it lol
>>105455923Its the better game
>>105455938its a doggy dog world out there
>>105455860>She was already banning/blocking people who talked shit about the homos before she ever collabed with them.So we agree she was weeding them out, same thing happened in 2022
Who is this cute girl with the deep voice
Unicorns, how we feeling so far?
Rio sounds nice
>CAN THIS PHYSIQUE BE ACHIEVED NATTY?LOOK AT THAT INCLINE!
jwuKoseki status?
>>105455936Who is this cutie?
its a sonic game but it has minecraft?
i hate the constant dilating pupils of some of these vtubers
>>105455975Symboli Rudolph
>>105453218Or that meet n' greet where a chinese nijisister spent thousands to only 2 minutes with Luca and not even that she got
ENTER KANATAN
>>105455955I love how that's all you got from that. Didn't even bother
>>105455982>nattylol
>+24 deletedHoly
>>105455955Shiori has a right to choose her own audience, and she has been doing it consistently since she debuted. What does that have to do with management's misguided push for unity?
>male (female) into girl (boy)kino
>>105455886I can't blame them, the hanafuda cards were top tier merch, maybe not as good as Mio's hoodie or dinogura but close.
Nintendo lost
>>105455996doubt heimin actually care considering Ollie is a homocollaber
>>105455974Thriving 3D live announcement this week
>>105455961Kronii
Ollie should just make this her default outfit, because her actual default outfit is cheeks. Do a Kaela and get a new, better one.
>>105456018you can play this on switch
>>105455619nijiphaseggers and leftypol are the same paid people
>>105456029Need a new outfit for this cunny
you guys actually watching the ollie thing
I'm not watching Ollie, I don't care if she has a full on Pekomiko segment.
>>105453218Nah they are probably thinking of the meet-up events in Taiwan.https://x.com/holomeetxTPE24/status/1880578501256024174
>>105455963
>Nimi birthday mogged by OllieThe absolute state of Nimi
>>105456056yeah, I like lives and it's high quality
>>105456029>collabs (not on Bb channel) x 2GRIM>SHORT streamGRIMMUS>??? REVEALrrat?
>>105453744Do you got the top right pic without the cuck dialogue?
is it a koro sonic collab?
>>105456056Nyo
>>105455963thriving
>>105455999I'm just defining what weeding out fans looks like and at the time the same was happening, Shiori's case may have been over a prolonged period of time but is the same action
Korone Sonic song? i can't into japanese
>>105456067>needs people like kanata in order to get these views Lol
>>105456018Lost because Sega paid Holo talents to play it while they bought a whole console and played Marika by themselves kek
>>105455720They couldn't make Japan care about Silksong either.
>>105455886in the 90s when sonic was actually a thing in the west, sega of america was a different team than sega of japan. they promoted different things and focused on different things.also weirdly, consider that in the US and EU, the genesis sold about 30 million units.. in japan, about 3.5. it was actually not that popular in its own home country. comparatively the SNES sold 17 million units in Japan vs 23 million in the US. so the pool of nostalgic millennials for sonic is permanently almost 10x smaller in Japan than exists in the West just by virtue of the fact so few people there actually-played sonic vs mario.
>>105456077
>>105456005What I'm saying is that Shiori's actions in the end push certain fans away from her core audience, holoEN's direction at that time encouraged that sort of actions
>>105456099Sadly Nimi can't get anyone bigger than Mint to show up to her events anymore
>>105456121They are enjoying this game much more thoughbeit
ENTERKIARA
>KiaraTime to get my rock hard dick out
>sad girl sexwho picked it
are they singing "sex girl, sex"
>>105456150Mint's 3D is mogging Ollies, maybe it's just 3D shows are better than RPGs.
>>105455860>She likely didn't collab with them directly earlier for the same reason why she hasn't done a "1 on 1" collab with FWMC yetBecause they can't figure out what they want to actually do, both have said thisPeople don't collab for the sake of collabing to check off a checklist
>ccv barely moved up when Kiara showed up
Who's botting pekora
>>105456145>girl eats pineapple pizza>pushes away certain fans away from her core audience
>>105456175yes they do
>>105456145Arguably every action you take pushes away a certain type of fan. IRyS saying she has no interest in homo collabs pushes away beggars, Kiara streaming 80 hour long story driven JRPGs while ignoring the story to chat about her friends' boyfriends pushes away most people, Mori saying nigger on twitter 10 years ago pushes away niggers, by that definition everyone is always weeding out some type of viewer to an extent that the expression becomes meaningless.
enter ex-nijinigger + ex-vshitshow cultist
>>105456179KiYawnwa
A snapshot of this thread multi deleted blokesDeleted at 12:16:04 (x23) >>105454505 >>105454535 >>105454542 >>105454549 >>105454595 ... (continues at https://files.catbox.moe/2xq0dp.txt)Amusing a fuck
>>105456175>Because they can't figure out what they want to actually doWell there you go, that's why she took two years to finally collab with Flayon
>Kiara shows up>CCV GOES DOWNWow debuffwawa
>>105456215All of these robots that showed up to her solo live
>>105456179I rather watch a clip than watch Ollie's stream
>>105456090Weeding out is when a streamer does a “my stream my rules” despite already having established expectations for their content, forcing their viewers to adjust to or leave. As you can see, Shiori has already established from her debut that homocollabs are not out of the picture. It was even memed here to make fun of beggars until it came true.
unicorn hiding from ollie she's trying to steal his purity
>>105456099What's stopping Nimi from inviting Saba?
>>105456243That's just the entire Magic the Gathering argument being deleted for being off topic, some of those posts were mine and I didn't even get a warning
>>105456041Wait, it didn't come out on switch 2 yet?
>>105456276Saba
>>105456255No, that's because it takes her a while to actually get to know peopleShe's close to advent out the gate because they had a 6 month on-boarding period, it took her MONTHS after that to bond with a girl outside of advent (Mori) and then slowly opening up to the others
>>105456290not part of this argument but if she saw Jurard's debut and thought "I should invest months in getting to know this guy" then she's an absolute piece of shit. Cheers.
>>105456170Stay in your lane mintnigger
>>105456257Showed up in what?
>>105456289Saba mentioned Nimi yesterday though
>>105456315You don't want to play this game. You can't win.
Suisei continues to take Riona under her wing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v-H-ZgqHoc
>>105456223If you're a ligger that wants to get molested by a doll or something maybe lol
>>105456308that's why she did the collab with iofi while she went 1 on 1 with the red tranny
OH NO NO NO NO NO , MIKO IS ALREADY LOSING VITALITY!>THIS ONE DOES NOT SLIP TODAY!SORRY MIKO, 40K IS FOR GROWN UPS!
>>105456344they reallyneed to fix riona's face, IRyS style
>>105456339>>105456257All Ai
>>105456151True. They must be planning a company wide tournament as we speak, like they do with Mario Kart. Okayu must be planning it, that's why she couldn't play with them today.
>>105456339wasn't this a free event
>>105456361Huh where's pekora
>>105456308Your argument should be reversed, because his disastrous bullshit should be a red flag unless you actually know the faggot is just some boisterous eternal class clown syndrome flip faggot that should be pitiedIf someone were to collab with him immediately with no prior contact, THAT should be a warning and eyebrow raiser (like a few indie homoslurpers do)
>>105456339seethe holodrone
>>105456365they will with her new outfit i beleeeeeeb
>>105456365https://x.com/hololive_OCG/status/1977343498803147223
>>105456361ALL HAIL KING KUZ KUZ!
>>105456361>4k likes in 4h17m>5,1k likes in 33minutesHOW DOES HE DO IT
>>105456377up your ass
Green Grifter mogged, we already knew she's an ID victim but now we know she's an ID-runt victim
>SABA LOST GOLD>NIMI BIRTHDAY MOGGED >NIMI GIGAMOGGEDTOTALHOLOLIVE VICTORY
>>105456373The one with pekoniji baseball collab is the free one. They literally gave free tickets because no one wanted to watch
>>105456386kakkoii
How fucking lucky is Pekora? >found a ruined portal with no crying obsidian to break and all missing obsidian in the chest with some to spare
>>105456365She has too much hair which makes her face look tiny. Just thin it down a bit more.
>>105456378My argument is meant to be hyperbolic because I don't think it's true. I don't think Shiori was talking with Jurard since debut. I don't think it took her two years to homocollab because she was shy.
>>105456400faggot
MIKO DAILY 40K QUOTA GET
>>105456402>birthday 3D liveVs>random dogshit horror game
>>105456400as it turns out, "we have sabadoob at home" discount avengers aren't QUITE the buff that sabadoob would be!
>>105456400>>105456402KAIGAI TALLY CHADS; ASSEMBLE!
>>105456402barely beating a normal D&D birthday stream with a full-fledged 3D live with JP guests is not an own
>>105456412Why is she stealing Miko's idea
>>105456402Holo ain't winning Gold anon, the King is back!
>>105456227>>105456221>Arguably every action you take pushes away a certain type of fan.Sure, almost anything pushes some fans away but the issue is that there were changes in direction in 2022 and those changes clashed with a big part of the core audience and they kept pushing in that direction despite the complaints until there was a cear 20% drop in almost all metrics
>>105456419>takes her fucking months to do anything with another girl>clearly it's impossible it takes her long times to talk to malesI mean you can be a retarded nigger if you want to, it's the reality that she takes a long time to open up to people
>>105456400>AAAHHHHH SAVE ME MINT-SAMANimi said this
>>105456427>>105456437When indie avengerfags start posting excuses and cope to explain why they lost to FUCKING OlLLIE is when you realize how fucking grim things are for them
>>105456474All you
>>105453111>>105453163there is a joke that Scandinavia is the dick and balls (Finland) of Europe so this shit is tame
>>105456474Mint beat Ollie anon... Avengers still got bibot running away.
We need Ollie to raid a Biboo guerrilla.
>>105456455Sure she's just a delicate flower who decided Jurard the holoanti would be her new bestie but was too shy owo to mention itOr maybe the persona of her first year was her giving it a shot to see if she could make that route work, then when it didn't she decided to filter her audience.
Here is something amusing: out of all of the nijis currently at the tally, the one with the most likes is>SalomeAnd adding their current likes together, it makes a total of>13965failing to beat Iroha current likes.
It's not wise to reply to schizo from 4 hours ago isn't it?
>>105456521Holy shit nigger, you can set aside your fucking eternal butthurt about her talking to m*les and just accept she takes a while to know people, we get it, you're mad you got rugpulled because you HAD to dunk on paperbag memes (as if anyone needs help or an excuse to do that) and didn't listen when she talked about having male friends on multiple occasionsYou can dislike who she talks to and also accept the reality that she takes months of talking to people to open up, they aren't mutually exclusive
>>105456501>that parthey, that looks like the head of a...
PEKO DONE GOOF'D!>just kidding, sent the fireball just back at the ghast
>>105456437>a normal D&D birthday streamAh yes the classic D&D birthday stream that everyone has spammed to death and has 0 buff factor
>>105456513With participation from, and shilling by, holos I would certainly hope she'd have decent EN numbers
>>105454548they have diehard fanbase?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzt6SmvGpXkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzt6SmvGpXk
>>105456541these AIslop unicorns are so fucking funny, part of me wants to start stalking and harassing Rider with these
>Pekora imprisioning and killing coloured folks, 2025, colorized, reverb
>>105456583oh boy here comes another worlds where it's asia vs asia again. Damn I wonder who they'll hype up korean twink #32 or chinese twink #94
>>105456576she had Kiara on... who couldn't give Ollie's 3D live an extra 1k therefor she didn't do shit for Mint. Mint brought more viewers to Kiara's 3D show than Kiara brought to Mint's show.
>>105454548They have a fanbase?
>>105456361Miko already mogged tinboy kek also he's botting again trying to beat Miko right now hahahaha
>>105456412Again, how fucking luck can a girl be?>got a dried ghast trading with pigs for some 7 rolls
>>105456608The holobox that'll watch ollie is already watching, of course a holo isn't going to buff a holo as much as some indie scaping holo attention is
I still remember when Biboo couldn't get a hat, but Ame got it immediately
>>105456608Nobody gives a shit about ID, especially not Ollie. She could have had multiple JP first army and it might have broken 20K.
>>105456622Pekora dream scandal when
So did the homos appear in ollie3d?
>>105456621lmao obvious botting
I WonBrowns and Homosexuals Lost
Biboo so cute
>>105456554I don't like that she talks to males, but I watch IDs. I care about who she's enabling and how she treated the fans who supported her up to that point. It was genuinely disgusting. Your scenario just isn't believable, no matter how much you seethe about it. Shiori didn't just whimsically decide to collab with Jurard one day, and she didn't jump in his DMs after he started griefing holofans and members unless she's a total piece of shit. It's just way more likely that something wasn't working for her and she decided to make a hard break. Jurard was convenient when Iofi offered a collab, she used him to filter her fans, and she didn't have the courage, honesty, or gratitude to address it with them .
>>105456666The moment he noticed Miko got ahead he pushed the bot button kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUoj_Orj7LQSome new korean vtuber group. I prefer it to what en corpos do outside hololive
>>105456076Original song
>>105456669seethe holodrone
Biboo is top GFE
>>105456076She's been doing recordings for a while so most likely a 3d live or original song.
>>105456608It's Ollie man, she has a 0.2X debuff on everything she touches
>>105456710kys enshart
Ollie's birthday limited set has an initial stock of 460/40
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1977720984418570724https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/kureijiollie_birthday_2025https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/kureijiollie_birthday_2025
>>105456669Again, you can set aside your mental illness and seething rage at what I can't reliable call THE most pathetic flip because Rider exists to accept realityYou can't just say "REEEEEEEEEEE SHE TALKED TO HIM TO FILTER EVERYONE, SHE DOESN'T TAKE TIME TO TALK TO PEOPLE BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THIS ONE"He's a pathetic fucking loser that acts like every other flip does (forcing themselves to be the "funniest," read: loudest person in the room) and has a retarded complex and thinks "well, if people get upset at me for things that's fine because it's marketing!" like your average sub-90 IQ retard in a marketing class that would be fit to work as Randy Pitchford's secretaryThere is no master plan, there is no behind the scenes skullduggery to find a way to filter fans or choose people that (You) personally dislikeYou just dislike the faggot and want to find excuses because you felt cucked by homo collabs, it's whatever, just say it how it is instead of jumping through thirty hoops in the mental gymnastic olympics about how everything she's said and everyone else has said about her is actually a lie because one flipfag makes you upsetGraduate the entire fucking homo branch btw, I'm not making excuses for his retardation and think he's a fucking net drain
>>105456738>ring merch
>>105456736>always think of Ollie>always dream of Ollie>always treasure Ollie>even when you're drinking you think of OlliePARASOCIAL FUCK
How did Mori get so many holo to shill Orpheus
>>105456736that's some low stock
I heard iron mouse concert is sold out
first bump: kiarasecond bump: michithird bump: solo segmentfourth bump (peak): solo segment / merch reveal
>>105456766There's nothing wrong with ring merch, the problem with Rushia's was that it was explicitly "engagement ring" merch
>>105456779Ollie was always unabashedly parasocial for her fanbase, considering the shit she says in members she'd probably let them run a train on her if it was in any way viable to organize it within Hololive
>>105456780>@everyone with MMD data saying if you wanna make a short you can>everyone does it because everyone is a deadbeat>also shorts are a good boost to your algo, so it's pretty beneficial overall for everyone
>>105456766
>>105456780she asked
>>105456780She opened up the wallet.
>>105456787I'm glad what happened to fandeads, I hope all the niggas with that level of parasocialism suffer the same
>>105456666Kek
>>105456829Never trust anything that outright says "GFE" on the tin and advertising
>>105456781Looks quite big to me all things considered
>>105456829i want to have sex with femfandeads
THEY UPPED NOEL'S VRCHAT BOOB PHYSICS EVEN MORE
>>105456827I can imagine Peko salivating at Mori tossing 50 bucks her way after casually burning away 50000 on horseraces
Here is exhibit #735 for why "REAL MALE VTUBERS HAVE NEVER BEEN TRIED" is such a meme>no living man can ever compete with the imagination and expectations of the current female media consumerAmusingly enough, there were two that managed to secure that exact target audience and then, out of sheer stupidity, threw it all away1) Connor. He used to voice a "black butler" (or something) character way before vtubers were a thing and got showered with this type of audience attention only to throw everything away because he was not getting enough money (back then) and the audience grossed him outThat is one of the things I assume he kicks himself forever and a day because had he transitioned it to a full blown live2D animated vtuber he could have made bank way before pretty much anyone in the English speaking market.2) Vox. Down to a T for that description: rapey vampirey presumably wealthy. He secure some shekels from that exact audience then threw it all away because1) he's too dumb to keep his beer belly, wrinkled and badly tucked shirt and corny belt out of his main account2) he as well got grossed out by the behaviour of that audienceI don't think anyone can play that role straight and keep going for years, it might take a toll in a bloke's mind to have to endure that deranged audience.I put it at the same level of unwitting furry illustrators, unless that is what rocks his boat anyone doing that will retire very early
>>105456780>it's a good song>it's exposure for them too so everyone wins
>>105456427ID vs Saba
>>105456861are her boobs comically bouncing?
>>105456829Why? I wouldn't care one way or another but how people get their enjoyment eliciting this reaction from you is curious at least.
>>105456666Kuzuha is like the pekora of niji in terms of botting
>>105456880It's become almost eiken tier
>>105456787Fair but that merch is pretty gfe themed>always think of ollie no matter what>hearts everywhere If it were a holo who avoided male collabs I imagine there'd be quite an outburst about the ring
>>105456736Less than a Homo kek
>>105456861 (me)Also. Bloomers
>>105456741Rather than trying amateur psychoanalysis, let's have a look at your argument>>105455860>Shiori takes a long time to get to know people, so it took her two years to homocollab>>105456350>but decided to jump into a collab with Jurard for absolutely no reason, where she immediately became friends and cued up a series of collabs because she's shy>you see, he's a complete obnoxious low iq retard shit starter, so that's basically irresistable. To shy, childlike girls.>she couldn't mention to this to her fans beforehand and needed to surprise them with it, then ban anyone who didn't like the surprise, because she's shy, >also childlike and kindhearted>also anyone who disagrees is a mentally ill seething nigger unicornhmm, well, it's a theory, have a great day
please dont sexual women or youre an incel
>>105456861Holy fuark
ollie cute
Run Miko Run! The King is closing in!
>>105456780She has big boobs so all holos would do anything for a chance to touch them
>>105456921>Noel is an incelno...
>>105456902If she sell out that means she sold more than the faggot lmfao
Mogu mogu
>>105456902>Less???
>>105456871>I don't think anyone can play that role straight and keep going for years,It is possible, the reason why it looks like nobody is able to achieve that is because whoever is good and natural at doing that just won't become a vtuber, but exceptions to the rules exist therefore there will be one day that real male brotubers will be tried!!!
>>105456916>>but decided to jump into a collab with Jurard for absolutely no reason, where she immediately became friends and cued up a series of collabs because she's shyShe has OUTRIGHT said "if you see people, odds are they are already friends" and it'd been a year and a fucking halfAnd we already know the blindsiding was because she was scared of a Kronii situation (which happened, and died out quickly because she made the right choice to just let it go and not engage)Again, your entire retarded argument hinges on "well actually everything else is a lie and she only ever communicated with him on that week and never any other time"
>>105456963the fag had 600+ stocks but doesn't matter since he couldn't sale half of it before the timer ran out
PINK! NOW PURPLE
>>105456970Right, so you DO think she jumped in his DMs when she saw him sharting up the place on debut? Is that it? Because you said otherwise.
Fucking yikes shioricuck and homobeggar team up to defend shiori and jurard the classic flip subhuman tag team
>>105456871>That is one of the things I assume he kicks himself foreverWhy? Isn't he like mainstream successful now by eceleb standards and hanging out with Pewdiepie and Ludwig and still getting tons of money from his new normalfag audience?
Shut the fuck up and make Noel webms faggots
>>105456669>>105456741>>105456916>>105456916How do i unsubscribe from your shit ass blogs faggots.
>>105456936the only way someone can beat Miko is by leeching or botting kek kuzuleechbot is not beating the allegations
>>105457009modern hololiveget over it or get out
>>105456969>whoever is good and natural at doing that just won't become a vtuberNah. that's the reason I mentioned Connor as he played that role before with moderate success in audience (but not monetary) until he got grossed out of it.There is an amusing other half to that: anyone capable of playing a "rapey vampirey billionairey" character to an audience of thirsty women can play pretty much the same character to an audience of gay men and, given that the field is a whole lot less served, to make even more money out of it at the expense of debasing himself for it.Hence, even when one of these pop up in the vtuber field, very quickly the dynamics becomes "gay for pay" to get the gay and fujo audience.
>>105456127Did any JP even play that game?
>>105457009Notice that xhe still hasn't replied to anon's thorough explanation of why xem's angle is retarded>>105455835
>>105456990Nigger WHERE?
Holy shit
I recently got recommended a Nimi clip which I ignored as always but I recognized the clipper by the name. This game was making Fauna clips back in the day, then after she became Nimi, he moved on to making clips to her, and he's still making clips of her, he dedicated pretty much all of the content to clips of her, he moved on to Nimi and was clipping only her, with an exception of some other VTubers here and then and it was only because they mentioned Nimi... What I cannot comprehend is how you can feel special about a woman, treasure that feeling, then find out that she was trying to cash out on you and fund her wedding while fucking her boyfriend behind the scenes, and STILL making clips of her, dedicating your time, money and energy to her, supporting her etc. How does a napling brain works?
>>105456474What do you call this level of mental illness and obsession with a made up rivalry?https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/image/fWpDcEQ-dqv_HpcFHEyczg/
>>105456855fair lol
SOMEHOW EVEN MORE BOOB PHYSICS??
>>105457027Thank you nigger am just gonna watch the rest that don't bother with homos, you know, the vast majority of it
>>105457011Vox made about a clean million and a half dollars (before cuts, which obviously reduces a lot his take home) in 2022 doing essentially what Connor was doing pretty much for free.And "mainstream" is too heavy of a word. Ninja was mainstream, even appearing in Ryan Reynolds movies. Connor is ... normie tier but definitely not mainstream.
huh what happens here?
>>105457041>>105456350right here. What did you mean "that's why she did the collab with Iofi"--because she wasn't as familiar with him as she was with Flayon, right? Or maybe you were saying that adding Iofi makes a Jurard collab better? You've had a lot of interesting ideas so far so anything's on the table.
>>105457059https://warosu.org/vt/?task=search2&search_filename=1745189069477.png
>>105457053>What I cannot comprehend is howI can
>Shiori is a flip and flip hivemind dictates they share similar bad humor and takes like every other cancerous flip in this hobbyNow post Noel
>>105457059Enna std really mindbroke this guy
>>105456586Those images are peak
>>105456969>>105456871Cover fuck up is trying to make male vtubers into idols. Holostars need a rebrand cover should drops the idol niche and focus on just a content group for holostar they will succeed. Give us professional gamers, actually comedians, people with unique talents like programing. Do that first then if they want to pivot to music on the side and it will get views.
>>105457053Sunken cost is tough. Walking away is tough.
BIG TITS SUKI
>>105457086Why would any of those people dress up as a gay anime boy and what would it add to their content?
>>105457071why the fuck did you quote me, i just wanted to call flayggot red tranny, don't put me in the same bag with the fag you are fighting with
>>105457071Don't be one of those faggots that can't accept multiple people calling you a tard
Brilliant outfit idea. Frilly and fun, but also extremely sex.
Riona with 8k viewers She's finally saved
>>105457053You're literally stalking and writing out some clippers history of content for 0 reason
>>105457079HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>105457100>>105457054Look at those bazoongas, jesas
>>105457053you do understand people were doing that for years for celebrities that were openly dating and marriedthe obsession with "being cucked" is an obsession of last couple of years
>>105457070Don't question it
>>105457079Oh... Now it makes sense.
>>105457070Is this a Nimi graph?
>>105457059Another monday in /#/ numbers
We south east Asian stand behind nimi
>>105457086>Give us professional gamers, actually comedians, people with unique talents like programing.Anon, this once again is just "REAL MALE VTUBERS HAVE NEVER BEEN TRIED" and it is just as stupid.Cover tried and failed, Brave tried and failed (miserably, ONE LITERAL VIEW tier of failure), Sony tried and failed, even Anycolor tried and failed with 90 out of their 100 or so male vtubers including having the dubious honor of having a couple of SUB-UYU male vtubers in their main branch.It does not look realistic that multiple companies tried multiple times all doing wrong without ever learning how to do better.It looks more like>there is no significantly large market for male vtubersand whatever market there is was cornered by Nijisanji with one simple trick>take 200 channels>use them to prop up five or six anointed ones, at their expensewhich is off the realm of possibilities for any company that actually cares about the success of their talent.And anyone with the talent to make it work as you described would have the talent to make it work as a no face, png or flesh streamer and have a lot more money and popularity for a lot less stigma
>>105457080>You guys hate Flip, but why do you keep supporting them and helping them grow in the first place?
what could have possibly convinced riona it was a good idea to slap that book on one of her debut slides. has there ever been a bigger slip of that magnitude?
>>105457152standing on a chair is very rude, sit
>>105457152No, you sit on the chair while her boyfriend stands behind her
azki was a caregiver so she knows how to handle ojisans
>>105457158I'm not
>>105457053Nimi still having people watching her must hurt your brain huh
>>105457164the hololive way
>noel went to members to have sex with fansIt's over
>>105457176>>105457179oof napnigger melty
>>105456780>asks EN who wants to sing with her in her VRC anniversary>entire EN branch says yes>asks who wants to do a short of her new song>the majority of hololive says yes>tfw (You) will never be that loved
>>105457115I got recommended a clip, recognized the clipper by name, was surprised that he still clips her, that's all there is to it. The rest is some weird fantasy you made up.
>>105457189If it was Nimi she would have just gone off stream to have sex with her boyfriend lmao
>>105457179nimi is an exholo so you are not wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCSI5MHYBYAThis was better then the OP, I know mori tried to cook with this one but I just didn't feel it.
>>105457176Lost to every holoEN stream>43damn
>>105457123Those people are still extremely parasocial just in a different way. If this was celeb fandom women would already know everything about Nimi's fiancee and be critiquing his political views, hoping she breaks up with him for some other guy like Swift lol. Instead her fans are just quietly watching as normal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE_US9XeQSIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE_US9XeQSIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE_US9XeQSI
>>105457158add hex haywire, Scarle and octavio there
>>105456787https://x.com/kureijiollie/status/1977728831461986317>THIS YEAR'S BIRTHDAY GOODS!! THE RING LOWKEY FEELS LIKE AN ENGAGEMENT RING, NO~?
>>105457079
Why do we need holoAss when we already have VRchat?
>>105457257VRChat tracking sucks ass, also the walking animations suck ass too
>>105457240*sigh*
>>105457240>eat your cake and have it
>>105455970Kuzuha numbers are amusing because they seem to be a product of two signals1) the usual "APEX chart"2) a constant linear incline Most of his peaks land at that exact line and, amusingly, very close to the exact 10k multiple
>>105457206>thats all there is>goes through every clip on channeldo you get paid at least?
>>105457176>Lost to every single holoEN and fucking Ollie
>>105457209Can you cuckbrain niggers go back to /trash/
>>105457240Difference being nobody sees Ollie as, nor does she actually, sell GFE so nobody is going to take that joke seriously
>>105457305basednaptards should go there too, that's where they belong
>>105457108Great, so we can see that eitherA) Shiori thought his debut was so great that she jumped in his DMs and made friends, because she's very shy orB) Shiori decided to collab with him at some later date, and because she's the shy type who takes a while to make friends she went with IofiMaybe you can see why that first one doesn't scan.>>105457106 this dipshit is agreeing with me.
>>105457210yes thats the joke thank you
>>105457240fandea-I mean zomrades...
>>105457240she's retarded... and not in amusing way.. .
>>105457224those are good numbers
>>105457401lmfao
>>105457401>0 overlap + Saba funnel>7k ccvRaora would beat this under the same conditions
>>105455642That would make sense as long as you don't look on the timeline and see first homocollab just two weeks after homos debuted when they still enjoyed some debut hype and management actually encouraged leeching (the famous popular demand). They never tried to just let them make it on their own, rather from the start it was attempt at copying niji approach with how much management wanted to remove gen numbers from EN and the whole senpai kouhai dynamics and that whole "holopro EN" push what they've tried to imply is that homos are pretty much male holos and it was a strategy possibly decided before Myth even debuted.
>>105457413>>105457416nimi derangement syndrome
>>105457277Here is where I think this chart would be without that "linear incline" multiplier>pic related, the line belowA regular APEX chart, peaking and returning to a lower level around the 20k line
>>105457428>nooooooooo don't laugh at her shit numberslol
>>105457335NTA but I go with "Shiori's homocollabs were a merc job" thing. She did it for benefits, vacations, perms, or whatever management offers to good workers.>Why Dinofag, why thenBecause it was the eve of ARMIS's 3D>Why hasn't she homocollabed in five monthsBecause the 3D was a disaster and she was no longer needed>Why didn't she put the collabs with Dinofag on her collab playlistBecause she didn't like them that much>Why does she give Homos pity raids every now and thenBecause she is asked to do so, and even then it's a bit iffy because some Homos participated on that Niji thing and she fucking haaaaates NijiSometimes there is no feelings involved in a decision, it isn't she likes him she likes them, nah, they offered her a deal and she accepted, it's somehow even easier of an explanation.
>>105457440after all teamworkers get a reward
>>105457428>tries to present shit numbers as good numbers in the numbers thread>seethes when called outstop being a woman
>>105457335There is no master planThere is no grand machinationShe made friends with someone you don't like, and you're butthurt about the whole male thing, so you desperately want there to be some underlying malicious reasoning for it other than that to the point you deny a segment of realityJust say you hate jutard and that you think she's dumb for being friends with him, that's fine, nobody will even disagree with youYou don't need to make her out to be some scheming mastermind that planned out Kronii 2.0 on a two year con and carefully selected every memberI'm not calling you a retard for not liking jutard, I'm calling you a retard because you're an actually diagnosable paranoid schizophrenic
>>105457428Thank you for defending Nimi's husband's wife
>>105457439>>105457456case in point
>>105456780Except kiara that bitch
AAAAAAA NOEL IS SITTING ON MY COCK
>>105457440That's dumb. The reward for every "good worker" that made into Hololive is given by their fans in form of donations, merch purchases, events participation and whatnot.
Kuzuha activating the bots again
>>105457440>She did it for benefits, vacations, perms, or whatever management offers to good workers.I think the real question here is cuckling or phasenigger?
>>105457440This is like bratniggers weekly cope, I don't trust christian whores and their bleeding hearts(read: freeuse for everyone)
tinboy keeps botting every 15 minutes trying to beat Miko this is really pathetic
>>105457467It's all downhill from there my seanig fren, buckle the fuck up
>>105457329Based based
>>105457440this is just sad cope, people accused Biboo of favoritism without any of that, reminder that >shiori interacted with flayon on her debut month, talked about homos on her streams, talked about the homos on her prechat, all that happened long before the homocollabso your post is just a sad cope
>>105457482It's not "again", it is on a fixed track. See >>105457431Below is what looks to be the "APEX chart" that would be expected and above is the "supplemented" one.The chart below is the same as the above, except rotated to remove the "linear incline".
>exnovelite vs homobeggar vs another fagshit, this is boring, i'm sure there will be a melty later
>>105457507hell niggers accused FWMC of heavy favoritism for being the opposite of that
>>105457418>and it was a strategy possibly decided before Myth even debutedI agree with everything else but we are getting into savant schizo conspiracy theory territory with this one, why do you reach that conclusion?
>>105457440All of this is cope. People accused FWMC of getting "favourtism" too and they couldn't be further from Shiori.
two GG shorts in a row... Mori-chama...https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9D22ADfm7tk
>>105457528NTA but I want my dislikes and shit to be based in reality, which is why I never make shit up in schizophrenic fits of rage, I don't understand people that literally invent scenarios to be mad at when I can just be disgruntled with actual things
>>105457440My theory is that Iofi or Ollie decided to convince her to be a saviorfag and set it up. Think about everything they've said before about wanting to break those barriers and unity. Both of them like Jutard too.
CC is very underrated
>>105457553Shiori said something like that? what?
>>105457554Why?
Shiori is a retarded flip woman and that's a recipe for disaster, that's all there is to it
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>>105457553It was literally just ioshit asking Shiori because she's fucking NOTORIOUS for dragging girls into homocollabs and has done it three or four fucking times now, and EVERY time it's been a girl that doesn't want to say no because they (unfortunately) don't see a reason to or just want to be supportive
>>105457511who are you trying to fool, that's not an APEX chart, tinboy been getting shit numbers playing LoL even yesterday he got sub 20k viewers and out of nowhere he can get big numbers today lol no one would believe it
>>105457550nta i'm with you, literally yesterday >>105415831
>>105457463>and you're butthurt about the whole male thingNot him but this was after his hate marketing leak so there were plenty of reasons to hate him aside form just bein male
>>105457440>"contractual obligation"Wait, where have i heard this term again?
>>105457440I really think she just decided to filter her audience so she could homocollab without guilt trips.We know now that >gen leadersare expected to homo collab, so she was definitely signed with that in mind. She warned people at debut. They were always planning this, but decided to give us a break for some reason>because homos were crashing the branch with no survivors>and Advent needed time to save themHer first year she was giving chat hearts and kisses, being intimate with fans, engaged viewers in her projects, she clearly worked to build a close parasocial attachment with her fans.This also clearly didn't work for her because she fucking stopped, well before homocollabs were on the table, but it's not like those fans were going to drop her just for backing off. They were seriously invested, after all.But then Cover hires another homoshill, who announces her eternal loyalty to holostars cock at debut and not only doesn't completely kill her genmates, she actually becomes most subbed. Now Shiori has no reason not to collab except that her old parasocial fans won't like it.So, she needed to filter them, and Jurard was an extremely effective way to do it. She didn't warn people so they couldn't cope their way through or ignore it. She set them up, let them defend her for a week while ignoring questions about the scheduled collab, dropped Jurard on her fans, and banned anyone who was baited into admitting that they didn't like the surprise. And then she was free.
>>105456970>Shiori made the right choicekek Jutard is here
>>105457553>>105457507
>>105457550it's because they hate that singular person so much and they always have to shitpost about them, so they make up shit when they have nothing left to talk about
>>105457440bullshit because en is bold enough to just call this shit outshe loves the homos and wants to use them as boytoys or whatever
>>105457613>>Shiori made the right choiceYes, not engaging with drama and comment slapfights and leaving it to unpaid janitors is the right choiceHolos should not engage in it regardless of circumstance
>>105457569No I mean iofi/ollie have said stuff like that
>>105457627Ollie does it out of naivety and "i wanna be friends with everyone" or the need to merge all her friendgroups, ioshit does it to drag people down to her level and try to force her hetship garbage
>>105455716probably at least approved by Yagoo if it wasn't his idea from the start
>>105457440I don't even think you’re a novellite. You sound like a phasenig grasping for straws
Tinboy botting
>>105457614All of that is different than actually setting up a collab. Iofi was doing monster hunter collabs at the time and even had ones with Biboo without the homo. Now that she's either busy or not taking the initiative the collabs dried up. The only homo related stream being the watchalong which of course ERB/Ollie tried to get people for
>>105457665How come tinboy gets climbing ridges but ohayama gets rocket launches
>>105457646do zomkeks really
>>105457463you just keep repeating this because you're completely out of arguments kek. You think Shiori loved his debut behavior SO much that she sought him out for friendship and developed that relationship until she felt brave enough to ask for a collab. I think that's fucking retarded, and when I tell you that you start seething about schizos.You still haven't addressed the other anon who showed you what "filtering" meant and where it occurred by the way.
>>105457553I don't know what happened exactly but my gut says that either she got one guy'd by someone like ernoul or her friends (male) swayed her in that direction.I have no proof but until the truth comes to light I will believe that.
>>105457536Wait, does protein powder make you shit or something?
>>105457686its their cucklture
>>105457206>Goes through every clip on the channel???Are you playing dumb right now or just retarded? I literally said I recognize this clipper and knew he was doing Fauna clips back in the day, so I checked the channel. It's hard to read for some people.
>>105457592Look again at >>105457431, the chart below. It is what he SHOULD be getting with an APEX chart if there wasn't an injection of some 7k clankers per hour continuously through his play
Whats with the seethe?Did ollie didnt invite homos on her 3D?
>>105457528All things considered, this is quite alright. At least both sides have an argument instead of calling each other cucks
>>105457553Shiori is a saviorfag because her religion tells her to be a saviorfag lmao
>>105457550No, anon, you must hear about how Shiori time traveled to last tuesday and stole all my forks.
>>105457285>Goes through every clip on the channel???Are you playing dumb right now or just retarded? I literally said I recognize this clipper and knew he was doing Fauna clips back in the day, so I checked the channel. It's hard to read for some people
>>105457716was about to ask the same thing, the fuck did i walk into?
Ex-fans of homocollabing girls are as fucking annoying as beggarniggers I swear to fucking GodGet over your exgirlfriend already, go find another bitch and stop drinking at the numbers bar crying about how you left that bitch Cassandra, go fuck some indie hooker or some shit until you can act like a man
>>105457649Not now, rimjob schizo
>>105457626Someone tell this to nerissa. That woman needs some serious PR training
My new shirt is warm and soft. I like it.
>>105457716>>105457738>was about to ask the same thing, the fuck did i walk into?Pic related, pay no mind, it is an uninteresting timeloop
>>105457716another episode of "shiori is forced to homocollab and she is a pure girl and anti homo before that" from ex-novelites
>>105457757Comfy fit
>>105457742>go fuck some indie hooker or some shit until you can act like a mancucked fags should be sent to vAllure purgatory kek
>>105457716>some fag tries to say Shiori's homocollabs was some fucking long con filtering shit>people call him a retard>a misguided fool tries to show him why he's a retard>faggot quintuples down
>>105457760That type of cope is just disgusting to see when all evidence says the opposite
>>105457646I think it's moved past naivety if she's been this long in Hololive she should know but still continues to do it.
come on Fubuki end your fucking stream give Miko the funnel
>>105457704The part about Ernoul is funny.She had a membership stream where Ernoul came and asked why had he been blocked from Twitter if she supposedly never blocked people, all with a rather bitchy tone. She explained that it was because he was an asshole, and that she silences people that talk shit about her coworkers and that includes Homos like Flayon.After the membership stream she releases her schedule which included the infamous ???. I don't know if that poor interaction with Ernoul was the last straw or not, but pffff, it would be kinda funny because it wouldn't be the first time that it happens.
Shiori just did the Ame thing of trying to filter unicorns. It's not that complicated.
>>105457772Anyone that unironically feels cucked by homocollabs should be strapped to a chair and forced to watch the ligger crab bucket where GFE mommies get motorboated and there's little lore drops every month so they know what REAL cuckoldry is
>>105457716I forgot Ollie's 3D was happening today. Anyone know if she had any guests?
>>105457760I don't even think it's from ex novelties. That kind of schizo explanation would only come from a phasenig or a nijinig trying to stir shit up
>>105457815but she never had any?
>>105457716>Did ollie didnt invite homos???
>>105457821So true sis. Can't wait for biboo flayon collab. Will be unhinged!
Someone started botting Miko after King beat her numbers lol
UH OH KUZUNIGGER MIKO INCLINED GUESS YOU'LL HAVE TO BUY A BIT MORE BOTS
>>105457742Seriously surprised to the "male collab perks" cope wheeled out when FWMC got heckled with seathe over supposed favoritism before. There's nothing like that you just followed a flip woman and got flip woman behaviour.
>>105457857>Migo>BottingGet a new material Phasebro, youre not a nijinigger
>>105457821Don't forget they even sell gamer cuck chairs
>>105457857she has 2 times more likes with 1/3 the time
>>105457821So a napcuck? Can't wait for her future lore drops
>>105457842>>105457809Every girl has some unicorns sans ERB. Yes, even Bae.
>>105457821>plague vs ebolai think i'll go with neither to be honnest
Go Miko go get that 50k!
>>105457836Don't know, didn't watch it
>>105457842Sure she did. She had plenty of people in full denial that she'd ever homocollab. It was treated as completely inconceivable, not just /here/ but in her split, in global, people did NOT expect her to do that and she spent her first year cultivating gachis. If there weren't any shioricorns she wouldn't have had to ban long-time members. Stop being retarded.It is, however, true that she always talked about men and the gachis she cultivated were mostly willing to sit on the chair
>>105457892no rush. she already met the micomet sex quota.
>>105457846There was only Rio which is not UNHINGED AND CHAOTIC but just a ladyboy that would get molested in any other company.
>>105457891And just like the plague, white people are less affected if at all lol
>>105457857It's near the end of the match and the scores are close. In other words, she's fighting Melania (forma de béisbol)
why is half of holo bullying and saying irys out while singing?
>>105457857lmao no nijisister, Miko's is natty because she's literally in the autumn tourney finals now
50k DORYAAAAAAAAAA
>>105457901>It was treated as completely inconceivableIt was mostly telling the fags who screamed over a twitter reply to shut the fuck up. Hearing "TWO MORE WEEKS" for over a year is exhausting.
>>105457921so natty she has 1.5 less than the firsts streams lmao
>>105457910I'm trying to make sense of what the fuck he was trying to ask with that sentence
There is something special about seeing artificial botted growth being completely destroyed by actual natural numbers.Eat shit, Kuzunigger
Im watching Flare and eating sour skittles
>ollie leaning into the GFEOh shes cooked isnt she?
