A tale of two chuubas
>>105573623But it is too late for Elira to leave Nijisanji
>>105573623>leave nijisanji>get moneyIT'S THAT SIMPLE
>>105573623>less than 2 % of what Mint made
>>105573623>19k viewers>$128 in supasNot to sound like a /#/monkey but holy fucking shit that's abysmal.
>>105575389It didn't even cover her plane tickets
>>105573623Money can't buy happiness
>141kThe fuck?, did minto really get that ccv?
>>105573623that blackscreen stream killed her, if she was forced into it it was fucking evil
>>105576016It's views anon
>>105576016No these are the VOD views. Mint had 22.7k CCV, Eira had 4.9k CCV
>>105576016141k total, she got like 25-30k live
>>105576343>Elira had 4.9k CCVIf you consider total views, supas, gift subs, everything, then this CCV seems to be massively inflated. Perhaps it's just all the corpodrones showing up for some event of "their" company, what do I know?
>>105573623A tale of two niji trash than I don’t care about
>>105573623Well, if she stream multiple days a week Elira is just about making minimum wage
>>105577905Anon... her other streams make $ 0.90 (90 Cents)...
>>105577238NIJISEETHE
>>105577905Anon... This is for her birthday stream
>>105573623Imagine your an ugly bastard working for some soulless Japanese black corpo and these two are your employees. You have to commission merch for one of them, feature one of them in you're events and promote 1 to be the poster child of their division.Which one do you choose according to this data?
>>105582427Whichever one will suck my dick.Guess we know who that was.
>>105573623die numbermonkey
>>105582845NIJISEETHE
>>105573623>120 bucksHow does that branch still exists?
>>105585526Riku and the execs sustain them in exchange for sloppy toppies on demand
>>105573623>Finana didn't even make the shitpostbitch should have done that April Fools ASMR
>>105573623KEK
>>105585526Anycolor has to keep up the illusion of a functioning EN branch, because closing the branch would be admitting defeat to Cover and scare their shareholders, which will tank their stock price.
>>105574745>and that's before Neal and Riku get their pounds of flesh>after the YT cut and the Yacht Tax, she made less than 1% of what Mint made>for every $100 of net revenue Mint got, Elira got a fraction of a penny more than 96 cents>if anyone besides corporate accountants and gas station fuel pumps still used mills, Elira got less than 962 mills for every $100 Mint got
>>105586077If you want to make it even more grim for Elira, consider that Mint dropped merch. You could get all of this in a bundle, those were limited to 1000 and each of those cost $ 180. Those bundles were sold out before her stream ended, just those bundles made another $ 180,000 before all cuts. This excludes every other purchase.
>>105573623But I see the same tale?Two fucking boring hoes
>>105586280NIJISEETHE
>>105586301uh oh melty, shill your whores better next time retatd
>>105586418NIJISEETHE
>>105577167Yes. Elira advertised the boys in her thumbnail so of course the boys fans will show up for additional 3D appearances of their oshi.
>>105582427I choose the one who will take pretty much anything without complaining, the one without any aspirations or higher goals, the one who doesn't have a creative bone in her body. Oh, and she's a hafu too; not great but it beats being a foreigner.And even if I didn't pick her immediately, I will in time, because she'll be the only one who never throws up a stink internally or externally with relevant parties (read: the Japanese public and related partners).
>>105575934I'm very interested in hearing, between Elira and Mint, which of the two you think is happier.
>>105575934>being successful in your business venture isn't a major contribution to your overall happiness
>>105575934>Money can't buy happiness>but look at nijis stocks, we're winningSisters...
>>105573623>Doesn't shit on nijisanjivs>shits on nijisanji
>>105573623im sure mint takes good care of her good friend elira
>>105585672Doesn't helps that you need to pay in playboard to get data older than a month....Which also loops back to her being so irrelevant that antis don't care enough to keep those numbers from June
>>105588240As of right now, probably Elira, since iirc her family's rich and can afford to not care about not making money, while Minto had to deal with the whole vshojo crap this year
>>105573623good to see elira fucked but mint is a fucking grifter as well
>>105586980Imagine needing to leech off of males... grim.
>>105595286but enough about phase
Even my spic oshi got more on her birthday live, what a world we live in
>>105573623The cute girl with integrity has more fans and viewers than the evil bitch who sucks black corpo's dickWho would have thought?
>>105573623being a backstabbing traitor cunt pays well it seems. Elira did get a shit ton of member gifteds though, and her 3D was at like 2am in NA.
>>105595872Holy Nijicope
>>105595872>a shit ton of member giftedsYeah about that
>>105595872>her 3D was at like 2am in NASo what? Niji has no fans in NA.
>>105595460At least bring up a real example. Oh wait you can't, you are at the bottom of the barrel, Nijicuck.
>>105595872In other words you're a confirmed SEAmonkey if you watched it live.
>>105595146So you're saying that... Elira is a leech?
>>105600980I guess so
>>105573623>3D debut combined with birthday stream>Still not even getting close to $10kMintcucks are proud of this? Elira's 3D debut mogged hers
>>105601717Mint sold $180k worth of merch. Sit your ass back down, sister.
>>105601821>But she sold merchAnd Elira sold more. Mint herself said all her merch money went to Toei for the concert and most of that money was used to pay the other companies who produced the merch tooI love seeing ex corpo retards realize how companies actually work. Glad they now realize producing concerts and making merch is actually expensive and difficult. Mint is now living in a moldy apartment as she struggles to pay for her insurance and car meanwhile Elira is living like royalty.
>>105602034>royaltyRmao, Elira gets a pittance ftom Kurosanji and has no following. Hell, Mint has a higher chance of actually fulfilling her idol dream with the connections she made.Stay mad, sister
>>105602034>Mint herself said all her merch money went to Toei for the concert and most of that money was used to pay the other companies who produced the merch tooINCORRECTShe said her Gamersupps merch (https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1915844148030279892) paid for ToeiHer Birthday merch from Setsuna (https://x.com/MintFantome/status/1973936180682166690) is what she sold $180k+ of afterwards.
>>105602034>And Elira sold moreYou're just gonna pull this random phrase out of your ass and not substantiate it in any way?
>>105602034Retarded woman.
>>105602034
>>105602391>2% pittanceIs Elira's 2% cut of merch sales before or after she has to pay Anycolor's taxes on their cut of the sales for them?
>>105601717>Elira's 3D debut mogged hersElira made less than 2 % of what Mint made without merch.
>>105573623Makes you wonder how thing would go if Elira didn't go full retard and do the black screen stream.
>>105588240Mint is never happy. Brainworms too strong. The instant she thinks she's happy she starts worrying that everyone hates her
>>105602034>Glad they now realize producing concerts and making merch is actually expensive and difficult.lolIt's difficult and expensive, sure, but not prohibitively. With enough gusto and the right connections it's absolutely possible as an indie. JP does it all the time.Hell, at this point Mint has been in more concerts than Elira by a mile.
>>105595823Elira is a BBC (Big Black Corpo) enthusiast?
>>105608902Oh, would you look at the time, it's Devil's Advocate O'clock:Elira was physically in Japan at the time, and on a work visa, so there's a pretty goddamn high chance she was acting under duress. Not doing it would have gotten her fired, and she would have had 90 days to either find a new sponsor for her work visa or return to Canada - and depending on the verbiage of her work visa, she might have needed to become an agency vtuber specifically (or at least in some sort of vtuber-adjacent job) in another Japanese vtuber agency, and Anycolor would have enforced the 180-day non-compete clause against her.To say nothing about Japan's anti-defamation laws. The act of telling her manager that she does not want to engage in targeted harassment against someone who just got out of the hospital after an attempt brought about by targeted harassment, might have run afoul of those laws - remember that they said Selen had damaged their reputation by claiming that the MV had been privated by management instead of herself, just one paragraph after admitting that management had privated her MV. She would have risked getting sued into destitution and imprisoned for up to three years for simply wanting not to do the black screen.And all that permanent damage she would have had to do to her career in order to avoid doing the black screen? Possibly getting sued and arrested if applicable, and almost certainly losing her work visa? That sacrifice would have been in vain, since someone else (most likely Petra) would have been voluntold to do the black screen in her place.
>>105611771I don't know why more people dont understand this simple fact. Anyone who's ever watched Elira knows she doesn't have a mean bone in her body. All she's ever done is be a good soldier and do what the boss tells her to do. I've never heard anyone have a bad word to say about her, even all the ex-nijis. They shit on Enna, on AC as a whole, on others, but nobody ever blames Elira for anything. She was a scapegoat, pure and simple. To save Vox, mainly, since he's the one that actually had beef with and bitched out Selen.
>>105588240Elira seems happy as a clam, living her best life. She has a ton of members still and moves a lot of merch, plus vtubing is just a fun hobby anyway, her family is loaded. Mint always seems miserable and depressed.
>>105612089Inventing fictional scenarios won't make Mint come back to you, Elira =)
I like Finaner
>>105611771>>105612035at this point I don't care about any of the crazy what-if scenarios anymore. The fine details don't matter beyond the fact that the video came out, Elira hosted it, and all 3 of them behaved like cartoon villains in it. That's really all that matters and it's enough for me to not want to deal with them. But at the same time it's been years. I don't care enough to keep up the vitriol anymore. They can stew in their own issues and hopefully become better people. Just over there away from me.
>>105575389This is what botting looks like
You shouldn't compare Elira to someone who's so far above her in every way.Raki Kazuki also did a 3D karaoke today. It's not her birthday or anything, she just did it.Of course, you will say that Elira's CCV is much higher, but I expect both of them to make a similar amount of money.
>>105611771Alternatively, she could have hopped on a plane back to Canada, fired up a stream telling everyone what Anycolor tried to make her do, and get the support of the entire vtubing community behind her.
>>105596279Nonono you don't understand, anon. From a NijiEN girls perspective, that's a shitton.And that means >>105595872 is one of them NijiEN girls.
>>105611771Proof? The blackscreen stream came out at the absolutely worst time since it cut off the Nijisanji CEO's apology at the knees.
The OP seems really kind of dishonest? Just taking a look you can see while she might not have earned as much as Mint they left out what was by far the main birthday stream people donated on. The first birthday stream was a 3D collab and people knew there would be a second that was actually chatting with fans so I assume they waited to donate for that when they could actually get attention for their money.
>>105622247Check the date of the OP
>>105622247>while she might not have earned as much as MintThat's all that matters. Cope.
>>105573623a tale of defamation. elira is innocent.
>>105585526They don't pay the talents a base salary, or any kind of benefits plan, and EN no longer has dedicated managers. It's only $120, and the company only gets about $40 of that, but it cost them not a single penny so why bother shutting it down?
>>105622247That's some impressive revenue. Did she also move $ 180,000+ in merch while she was still streaming? OP also didn't list this. And that's just limited to those bundles.
>>105612089Elira keeps being given things by the corporation, which is totally irrational since she represents a large negative number on their balance sheet. She clearly has some type of insane nepotism within the corporation considering all the stuff she's given as a 500 ccv shitter.At this point she's just a male orbiter who brags about how close she is to various homoshitters like it's a point of pride. She stooped to a new low by shipping herself with the black guy. Ahe has very little audience watching her, and has no future in streaming. She just has to hope the corporation keeps shelling out millions of dollars to her for no reason as even more branch members graduate
>>105627060>it cost them not a single penny1) Elira has participated in upwards of 20 different 3D specials, debuts, and events. Every time the company shells out for her plane ticket, hotel, and invests hundreds of thousands of $ worth of studio time on her, which could have been spent on popular JP members. They were giving so much 3D stuff to EN they even had to delay Nijifes last year. 2) If you think in terms of "opportunity cost", think about the money they aren't making in order to support Elira. Because of her, the branch's revenue was cut in half and the entire Western market was killed forever. Because of her, there can be no more girls-groups in EN which aren't homosaturated shitfests. Basically her presence in the branch is preventing $10's of millions worth of revenue.
>>105605412I still would fuck this, so not disgusting enough
>>105612035>Gets drunk, bully Uber drivers>Love Bomba chat, but yells them they're not friends>Gets drunk and crashes in on pomu's stream. Pomu kicks her off discord but Elira overrides it since she has admin perms>Literally admits to being a petty bitch
>>105573623elira doesn't need money since she is loaded, mint on the other hand need to beg like the maggot she is hence mintbeggar
>>105630352Proof?
>>105630352maggots don't begyour analogy is stupid.
>>105573623I will not care or donate unless GFE is involved. And neither of them do that
I don't know where this Elira's family is loaded narrative comes from. If she is then her parents are the kind of people that tried really hard not to spoil her. The way she talked about stuff like Christmas seemed about the same to me as my family. You get like one good main present like a games console or an ipod or something and then some lesser shit. And the way she talked about getting all sorts of basic jobs before vtubing from retail work, waitress, summer camp hospitality etc suggests her parents wont just hand her over money. I would have guessed they weren't poor but not fabulously wealthy either. Regular old middle class people.
>>105631115These people are urban scum whose definition of "average" is "top 1% lifestyle".>retail work, waitress, summer camp hospitalityThe type of jobs the children of privileged rich get.Where is the coal miner job? The trash worker job? The construction job? No instead she's volunteering at a fucking summer camp
>>105631247>Where is the coal miner job? The trash worker job? The construction job? Not something you see a lot of women working in
>>105631714Plenty of her viewers work in a garmant factory or wetmarket
>>105631115Sadly these days what used to be upper middle class is basically rich, especially to americans.Economy has fucked anyone middle class and lower to the point where my family went from mid-middle class to bordering on poverty these days. We couldn't dream of affording the things today that we had when I was growing up. Covid fucked things up especially hard.
>>105602391>Mint has a higher chance of actually fulfilling her idol dream with the connections she made.KEK. Vshojo rug pulled her only chance. Now all she can do is pretend and cope. Hololive will never take her and Nijisanji will never work with her again. Meanwhile Elira is already an idol>>105602938She did not clarify which merch. Which already implies she was talking about her birthday merch>>105605267Elira is famous world wide, Mint is a niche YouTuber >>105607293>>105608538>2% cope that Mysta himself said he exaggerated I accept your concession >>105609273>Mint has been in more concerts than EliraBlatantly wrong. Also appearing as a guest is not comparable to being a star of the show. Elira is more of an idol than Mint could ever be and that's fucking hilarious. Mint only has herself to blame for getting poached by Vshojo in the first place. Now she gets to live in poverty
>>105632174>Also appearing as a guest is not comparable to being a star of the show.In that case, Elira hasn't had a single concert
>>105632174>She did not clarify which merch.She explicitly said gamersupps merch paid for the concert. Specifically gamersupps, and how she was thankful to them because of it.
>>105632174>She did not clarify which merch. Which already implies she was talking about her birthday merchRetarded woman.
>>105632174>Elira is famous world wideInfamous more like lmao
>>105632395>Which already implies she was talking about her birthday merchdoesn't that imply she used her october merch to pay for something from like marchSisters aren't sending their best
>>105631247I don't know what country you come from but in rich western countries jobs like retail workers and waiting staff are normally either low IQ people that failed education and can't access anything better, immigrants, or young people who are studying working part time with parents aren't rich enough to just give them whatever they want
>>105632284Elira is the one of the main stars of every concert she's been in. Mint has only had three concerts where she wasn't just a guest >>105632334>>105632395Actually she said her gamersupps saved her taking a big hit from her birthday merch and her own money. Which she used all of that for the concert lmao. She even talked about how expensive it was afterwards. No rich woman would choose to live in a moldy apartment, be uninsured AND couldn't afford to repair her car so she opted for being a shitty used one>>105632449Mintcuck cope. Elira has actually performed in more than one or two countries
>>105574615How's that supposed to work for Elira though? People leave and then give a sob story about Elira, and even if they don't, it's assumed to be the clique's fault. What's she going to do, try to turn the blame around on Selen and Pomu...?
>>105632821No that's usually the sort of job rich people will send their kids to do while they're going to school. Get some work o volunteer experience doing odd jobs. In those rich areas you can find the children of millionaires worning behind the counter at smoothie stores. An actual poor person is not working jobs like that.
>>105614755That's gotta be one of my favorite screencaps from this board. The Fubuki one is another timeless gem.
>>105617751She had just gotten to Japan. She arrived just a few hours before the termination notice was published.Setting aside the issues inherent with trying to book a last-second flight from Japan to Canada, trying to leave Japan specifically to avoid being forced to do the black screen would have resulted in her getting suspended or fired before she could board the plane, and would not have prevented the black screen from happening at all. She wouldn't have been able to tell anyone anything as Elira Pendora.>>105620265Riku was apologizing to the shareholders for the "negligible" paper, which was necessarily written and published by someone high enough on the Anycolor food chain to write and publish IR releases. And he did the apology in English, with English subtitles, on the Niji EN channel instead of the Niji JP channel, solely to give the shareholders the appearance of "apologizing" to the western fans.The black screen didn't undercut Riku's "apology," it complemented it. As far as the (mostly non-English-speaking) shareholders were concerned, the black screen was no more and no less than some of the EN livers informing the EN fans of the fact that Selen had been terminated, followed by Riku "apologizing" to the EN fans for the fact of her termination.
>>105574745Mint recently made around $200,000 in merch sales
>>105629373>She stooped to a new low by shipping herself with the black guyno fucking way dudeno wayI didn't unsubscribe over the black stream, I just left the sub there to sit as some vtuber I never watch or care about but might glance at if she's playing something interesting, cause what do I carebut I'll unsub right now if this is true
>Roughly 13k, give or take>3D paid by herHoly omega giga flop.
>>105634697Yeah she was bragging about Vanta holding open doors for her and holding her umbrella for her, and got a ton of fanart shipping them together. Funny how Shu reacted like an oblivious observer to the whole thing.
>>105633975You really sound like you have no idea what you are talking about. Anyone with parents that well off their parents just pay for everything for them.
>>105634918Not in America, there is a capitalist mindset >if you want me to buy you a lamborghini you have to stay employed at the retail store for 3 months
>>105634868wait you're talking about Vantacrow Bringer?I thought you meant a fucking African guy when you said black. A BLACK member of niji. That guy's not black in real life is he? He doesn't sound black at all.
>>105634964Well one way or another she's farming herself out as shipbait now. Her whole career is basically on the sideline cheering on the boys. She goes to japan and it's basically her, finana, and 12 boys
>>105634997fair enough but I don't care about that reallyif she was shipbaiting a fucking black guy I would unsub, anti her, and bring it up at any mention of her existence
>>105635134She is with Vanta. She chats about him on stream all the time and sounds super impressed by him.
>>105632940>Actually she said her gamersupps saved her taking a big hit from her birthday merch and her own money. Which she used all of that for the concert lmao. No, she didn't. She said Gamersupps covered her concert before she even had any birthday merch planned.>be uninsured AND couldn't afford to repair her car so she opted for being a shitty used oneShe is insured, there was just an issue with the paperwork during her renewal. Also being uninsured is actually more expensive than being insured.And she got tired of constantly having to bring her shitty old car in for repairs, so she got a new one that doesn't constantly break down instead.
Why the fuck is this thread even still up? It's been like two days girl, go rant about your delusions about Mint to your parents or something instead.
>>105634964The guy is just being autistic and taking what was clearly a joke seriously. The guy held a door open for her, a perfectly normal thing for a colleague or friends to do for each other, so she joked about how gentlemanly it was to do that like "kyaaa how gentlemently swoon just like in my mangas" or whatever. Looking at her actually talking about it she outright says she was just joking and trying to embarrass him.https://x.com/erunachu/status/1976255008825102549And when someone says "he has so much rizz" she says "i don't know about that" but says that he does genuinely behave in gentlemanly way.
>>105632940>Elira is the one of the main stars of every concert she's been inlollmao evenShe's always outshined by the guys and we've seen what happens when she's the headliner with the Summer Jam. At best she's a guest singer.Hell, even for her birthday stream she needed to cram in as many guys on the thumbnail as possible to desperately bring in their fans.
>>105634964Apparently he's mixed
>>105635295I think a lot of this thread is a Mint fan posing as an Elira fan to bait other Mint fans to argue with them or maybe even arguing both sides with themselves. There used to be a Pomudachi that did that with Elira and Pomu when they were both in Niji. Reading the posts its rather suspect how this guy know exactly how many concerts Mint has been in and exactly what she said about some random sponsorship she had and what she spent it on. They stream at overlapping times and hes supposed to be some hardcore Elira defender to the point of saying ridiculous things but he knows every detail of Mint's said on stream apparently.
>>105635196if he's not a nigger IRL I don't care, that horseshit is par for the course with nijis
>>105635674Obviously, but a lot of us don't care and use it to vent regardless
>>105635674Wisp or not they should still kys for polluting the universe with this garbage, I don't want them in /mint/.
>>105573623Both boring whores
>>105632174>""""idol""""You mean cocksucker. I haven't seen a woman clamour for cock as hard as Elira does. She's not an idol, she's a whore who services Niji sext pests and Riku's investors
>>105635203Wrong. She said she wouldn't be taking as hard a hit from her birthday merch because of her gamersupps merch. She used both and even suggesting she wasn't planning on getting merch for her birthday is retarded>There was an issue with her renewal Yeah, money. Do you really think people without insurance are richer with people who do have it? She also didn't get a new car, she herself said she replaced her car with an old shitty car because she couldn't afford to repair her previous one>>105635381>She's not a star because she performed with other people Yet Mint has to leech off Hololive, Phase, Nijisanji and Vshojo. Makes you think
>>105636365>Wrong. She said she wouldn't be taking as hard a hit from her birthday merch because of her gamersupps merch. She used both and even suggesting she wasn't planning on getting merch for her birthday is retardedNo, she did not say that at all. Back in August she said that the Gamersupps merch covered her concert costs, and also said she wouldn't have any birthday merch because of the Vshojo implosion cancelling all planned merch.The birthday merch she got through Setsuna was very last minute and not originally planned for at all, hence why all the images are prototypes or illustrative mockups. Also, why would she be taking any sort of "hit" from having birthday merch? Retard.>Yeah, money. Do you really think people without insurance are richer with people who do have it?Here in the US, if you don't have insurance you have to pay your medical costs completely out-of-pocket, which is more expensive than having insurance.>She also didn't get a new car, she herself said she replaced her car with an old shitty car because she couldn't afford to repair her previous oneNo, she said having to constantly bring her old shitty car in for repairs was no longer worth it, so she got a new car that she has never had to take in for constant repairs.
>>105636365>Yet Mint has to leech off Hololive, Phase, Nijisanji and Vshojo. Makes you think>My leeching off of the boys is better than you working with multiple companies to make concerts happen. Also ignore the many paid events she performed in where she was either the sole performer or a costar (Fantomethief, etc.)
>>105636365Whenever I read the word "leech", I know that this person has no idea what she's talking about. The fact that vtubers of all different corpos collab all the time, talk publicly about their friendship and could switch from one corpo to another if it was nothing should show you that all of that tribalretardation you see on /vt/ is irrelevant to the talents. It's their job and any entertainment industry job is about networking. If you don't network, you're doing your job wrong. Right now, there's just 1 corpo in the West that exists in some bubble cut off from the EN Vtubing scene and that's Niji EN. You might say that's a good thing, but it actually shows you how toxic their brand is to the point that interacting with them is harmful to your business.It's hilarious with that Phase concert in particular: Minto sold tickets for Phase and filled the venue with Wisps. It was that huge Phase event, but Mint was front and center to a degree that a regular Phasefag must have felt bad for his girls. Meanwhile, Elira is on life support propped up by an audience that isn't hers. I believe it's not her audience because why would an English speaking female Vtuber appeal to SEA fujos and stream her biggest event of the year that's supposed to be all about her at a time when her desired audience of NA and EU weebs is either at work or asleep?It seems to me that this "leeching" allegation is just cope that everyone wants to work with her while no one wants to interact with Niji. Surely she also leeches Victoria Roman, right? A Vtuber which doesn't even exist yet.
>>105634391 He still at least gave some praise to Selen, which is a shitload better than everything else.If Elira didn't go rouge with the black screen and just let Riku's message be the final word on the matter, things wouldn't have been so disastrous for NijiEN.Maybe it would still be dying, but it wouldn't be in the crippled state it is now.
>>105636993>I got paid from that. I was going to use the other money from my merch for like my 3D and things like that but but that that you guys ordering stuff from the gamersoft saved me so much. So, thank you guys.>Thank you guys so much. I really I was like I was like, "Oh man, this is like actually a pretty big hit."She never said her gamersupps money covered the whole concert and she outright said she was planning on using her birthday merch money to pay off the concert. Retard>Still coping that being uninsured means you're rich The only reason you'd be uninsured means you can't afford insurance and you're just banking on not needing to go to the hospital >She said constantly going in for repairs wasn't worth itActually she said the full repairs would have cost her too much and that it was cheaper to get another car. Which is why she got a used, old car and said her other car was a newer model>>105637076>Fantome thief where she leeched off Hololive >3D debut where she leeched off Hololive Anything else?>>105637511>Cuck thinks calling leeching "networking" makes it any less pathetic Kek, imagine defending nepotism for me but not for thee. You're also not convincing anyone that the phase concert was a success when Pippa herself said it was a flop >Why would Elira who was in Japan stream in Japan hours?This is the kind of brain damage mintcucks have. Now explain how Elira could be on life support as she's whaling in gachas and lives comfortably in a big house in Canada while Mint is thriving as she drives a crap car and constantly complains about living in an old, moldy small apartment
I always feel a little bad looking at stuff like this. Promising future and good money straight into the gutter overnight. I'd feel fucking miserable if I had it all and it got dashed to the rocks.
>>105638294Exactly, if only Pomu wasn't clinically retarded and let herself get poached. Then she'd have been an idol just like she wanted. But she tried to choose a shortcut over loyalty. Sad to see her get punished like this, I couldn't imagine being uninsured and waking up coughing because mold spores keep falling on my face while I sleep while I'm not able to move out because I'm broke. You can even hear it in her voice
Holy shit, how do you have this much venom while being so wrong?
>>105638183>She never said her gamersupps money covered the whole concert and she outright said she was planning on using her birthday merch money to pay off the concert. RetardWhere does it say "birthday merch money"? I don't see that anywhere. The "other merch money" she was referring to was the money she never got from Vshojo because they never paid her and imploded.>The only reason you'd be uninsured means you can't afford insurance and you're just banking on not needing to go to the hospitalNo, the only reason she was uninsured was because there was an issue with paperwork during the yearly renewal process, hence why she had no issues all throughout 2024, only had an issue in January 2025, and hasn't had any issues since (because the paperwork issue got resolved). And insurance covers more than just hospital visits. Remember the tweet she made about it was in relation to a regular doctor's visit.>Actually she said the full repairs would have cost her too much and that it was cheaper to get another car. Which is why she got a used, old car and said her other car was a newer modelNope, she never said any of that at all. Go on, post the tweet. Do it. You won't.
>>105638183>>Fantome thief where she leeched off HololiveYou gonna explain this one? Also her 3D debut wasn't a paid concert, genius.
>>105638718Her excuse for the concert 'leech' is because they had it in a venue near the Holo world tour event on the same weekend, Sat night into Sun morning for the Holo event.
>>105638630Why would she be relying on money for a corporation that never paid her for her 3D? She was obviously talking about birthday merch >It was paper work issuesNo, it was because she was on a family insurance and she was booted off of it so she had to find her own. She never talked about it again, no reason to assume she has insurance now>Post the tweetThat she deleted? She talked about her car being old and used on stream >It's more of a metal gear rex than a metal gear ray
>>105638718>Ex Hololive guest located near Hololive concert It's pretty embarrassing that it still flopped and didn't even sell out
>>105638903>ex-hololive guest located near hololive concertYou can't be serious about thisYou're about 2 steps away from>Mint had the same kind of sandwich Mori did 2 days ago, that leech!
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>>105634997>Well one way or another she's farming herself out as shipbait now. Her whole career is basically on the sideline cheering on the boysTo be fair, she's a female in Nijisanji (and the EN branch at that). Niji girls pretty much have to debase themselves as nothing more than props for the boys in order for management to even pretend to care about them.I do not know how Scarle gets away with not farming herself out as shipbait. I know it's not (just) her stream revenue, else Pomu and Selen wouldn't have been driven out of the company.
>>105638983>Nooo having Ame listed as a guest two blocks down from the Hololive concert venue wasn't intentional! Dookie and Shint didn't mean to leech!!!And other hilarious copes fagoons make
Imagine if timelooping garbage like this was a bannable offesene.
>>105638564sisters, just like any brand of tribalfags, are almost sentient. almost...
>>105639082I refuse to believe you're not a shitposter.
>>105638853>Why would she be relying on money for a corporation that never paid her for her 3D? She was obviously talking about birthday merchShe was relying on merch money from her Valentine's merch drop, which was done through Vshojo. Vshojo never paid her. Then she got reminded about her Gamersupps merch drop that she completely forgot about, and that money covered her 3D debut. She had no birthday merch planned in August (when she talked about this), as Vshojo's implosion cancelled the planned merch.>No, it was because she was on a family insurance and she was booted off of it so she had to find her own. She never talked about it again, no reason to assume she has insurance nowWhat "family insurance" would she be on as a 30+ year old? Do you have any idea how medical insurance works here in the US?>That she deleted?Yes, the one she deleted. The one where she talked about all the repair costs being expensive. You must have it, don't you? Come on, post your proof to back up your claims. Do it.
Bro this girl earned over $200 in superchats this year, over $200k in merch, and we're supposed to believe she's poor compared to Elira the 3view shitter.
>>105639276>that money covered her 3D debutShe never said it covered it. She said it helped and she never said she was relying on the Vshojo money. Don't know why you're trying to make it seem like she's completely retarded >It wasn't family insurance Clearly, her grandma dying fucked with her insurance >Admits to knowing what the tweet said and her admitting repairs are expensive >Still wants me to waste my time I accept your concession
>>105639232Given the similarity of arguments this seems like some shitposter from /#/, actually. That thread is basically this same kind of "logic", about every single vtuber, over and over.
>>105639232Whenever you read about "fagoons", you just know what kind of orangutan made this post and you can safely ignore it because it's just some ape throwing shit in written form like everything sisters write.
Bro, this girl lives in a moldy apartment, is uninsured, talks about how expensive everything is and had to settle with an old used car and we're supposed to believe she's rich compared to Elira who complains about not finding time to spend more money
>>105639975>Fagoon exposing himself It'd be so funny if it weren't so sad
>>105639910Ok so one girl averaged 4.5k ccv, and one girl averages 500 ccv.You expect me to believe the more popular streamer, who is an indie with no corpo cut, is somehow the poor one in this scenario? Elira is lucky Nijisanji is content to lose $100's of thousands on her 3D performances. Nijisanji is taking a massive financial hit to prop up Elira's ego. Meanwhile Mint has the kind of career that will secure her an early retirement
>>105640084>one girl averaged 4.5k ccvIn your dreams>She's an indie so she's richKek, that means she's poor. Imagine having to pay for all this shit herself >Thinking Nijisanji is losing money because of EliraFat faggot, you're not worth my time
>>105639960Sisters and numbersisters are exactly the same if you ignore their preferences in corpos to bootlick. Nature is amazing, I love going to the zoo.>>105640013>no ukek
>>105639910>She never said it covered it. She said it helped and she never said she was relying on the Vshojo money.Then what "other merch money" was she referring to then? Can't be birthday merch money because that merch got cancelled when Vshojo imploded.>Clearly, her grandma dying fucked with her insuranceHer grandma didn't die in January, she died in February. And again, you're showcasing that you have no idea how the US medical insurance system works.>Admits to knowing what the tweet said and her admitting repairs are expensiveNope, I'm using your words here. Words that you seemingly cannot provide any proof for. The fact that you are refusing to provide proof just shows that you're making those words up.
>>105640170>Can't be birthday merch moneyBecause you said so? She was clearly talking about birthday merch money unless you think she was too retarded to try getting some on her own >you have no idea how the US medical insurance system works.You have no idea how it works if you think there aren't extensions. Fact is she's uninsured >Consneeds>Pretends he didn't consneed in the next post in an effort to waste timeLmao
>>105639910>She said it helped and she never said she was relying on the Vshojo moneyOh so she was able to afford it without the Vshojo money? Guess she really is rich then lmao
>>105640341You know what the concept of a debt is, right? Plus the 3D wasn't even released until after her merch came out
>>105573623Elira deserves all her misery and more. She also can't join another corpo because she's radioactive now
>>105640165>that means she's poor.She has like $350k in supas on her channel. How the hell is she poor, are you retarded?
>>105640390You're talking about Mint. Elira is content in her corpo. Mint is now too radioactive for Hololive, backstabbed Nijisanji and Phase then lied about being indie when she was in Vshojo
>>105640165>Thinking Nijisanji is losing money because of EliraIt's called opportunity cost. If they let her use $500k worth of studio time, that's $500k they could have made renting the studio out to someone else, or letting more popular Nijis use it. That is a real economic cost they are bearing for Elira's sake. In the end she puts out a 3D special which gets $100 in donations
>>105640393>But..but ... Her supasShe blows through more money than she makes. How can someone be rich and continue to live in a rotting, small apartment? Are you implying she's intentionally committing suicide by mold?
>>105640461Stop responding to me, faggot. I don't even have to respond for people to understand why you're a retard
>>105640320>Because you said so? She was clearly talking about birthday merch money unless you think she was too retarded to try getting some on her ownBecause SHE said so. She talked about how Vshojo didn't pay her for the podcast merch nor her Valentine's merch. That was the "other merch money" she was referring to. Did you not watch her Vshojo Experience video?>You have no idea how it works if you think there aren't extensions. Fact is she's uninsuredYou are continuing to show that you have no idea how it works. Here, I'll let you in on a secret: you cannot stay on your parent's/guardian's medical insurance past the age of 26. Not only is he grandmother neither of those, but she's also over 30. So, pray tell, what "family insurance" was she on then?>Continues to not post the tweet.You really don't want to make a fool of yourself, huh?
>>105573623LONG LIVE LE CLIQUE
>Mint is now too radioactive for Hololivelmao, funniest shit I've read all day
>>105640380Anon... her 3D was recorded in June, and her birthday was in October. In fact, she didn't release her birthday merch until after the day after her 3D concert.
>>105640590>That was the "other merch money" she was referring to.So she was referring to the merch money that didn't exist that she hasn't gotten for a year? Kek, they're not sending her best >She's well over 30That's even sadder. Her insurance gets fucked so she's uninsured, too broke to move out of an moldy apartment and her fans insist she's happy and rich while she keeps on complaining about being miserable. What a pitiful existence >Continues to pretend like he didn't acknowledge that he read the tweetYou really don't want to make a fool of yourself, huh?
>>105640433>leaving amicably is le heckin backstab100+ to your social score sis.
>>105640638>Recorded Not released. I accept your concession
>>105640727>Leaving amicably then shit talking your former company after your new boss tells you to isn't backstabbing100+ to your bank account, VPoachjo drone
>>105573623Does Niji also take a cut of the superchats?
>>105640433uh huh, she sure is too radioactive for Hololiveso radioactive that Hololive not only allowed Kiara to be in Mint's 3D, but also allowed Kiara to show up in her latest idol outfit
>>105640632>>105640831>Mintcucks genuinely thinking Yagoo would hire her after everything she has doneKEK, She is getting accepted nowhere by Phase
>>105640717>So she was referring to the merch money that didn't exist that she hasn't gotten for a year?The Valentine's merch was in February -> She was going to use that money to pay for her 3D debut that was recorded in June -> Vshojo never paid -> She got reminded about the Gamersupps merch money -> Used that to pay for the 3D debut instead. It's not rocket science to figure this out.>That's even sadder. Her insurance gets fucked so she's uninsured, too broke to move out of an moldy apartment and her fans insist she's happy and rich while she keeps on complaining about being miserable. What a pitiful existenceDeflecting from the "family insurance" claim, eh? Guessing you're running out of excuses, sad!>You really don't want to make a fool of yourself, huh?I'm not the one making accusations but refusing to back it up with proof. Go on, post the tweet. Do it. You won't.
>>105640822Of course. 30% goes to Youtube, 35% to Niji, 35% (minus taxes) goes to the liver.
>>105574001Not too late for her to become my dutch wife.
>>105640535If there's 10 studio employees paid $60k each, working for a month on Elira's 3D, that's $50k they've spent on her. Plus her $2k plane flight and $2k hotel stay. Direct real cost. Plus the rent of the place, the electricity usage, the general expense of wear and tear on equipment. Just speaking direct costs we're talking like $100k. Straight up.She's done like 20 of these now, it adds up over time.Plus the sheer reputation damage of continuing to represent one of the most hated vtubers in the industry. That might total in the $10's of millions.
>>105640956>Guessing you're running out of excuses, sad!oh it's an election tourist.That makes sense.
>>105641121What are you blabbering about this time?
>>105640956>Mint relied on money she hasn't received from over a year to pay for a debut she planned in advance instead of the money she'd get from the debut It's not rocket science to figure this out >Running out of excusesHe said as he was not able to prove that Mint got her insurance back>Dig through archives to find a tweet that I already admitted to reading lol. lmao even
>>105634631With chinese tariffs in effect? Dream on.
>>105640754So Toei let her use their facilities in June for free, with only a promise to pay them back in the future when it got released? Damn they must really trust her then. That's a pretty nice relationship to have.
>>105641242It's amazing what a fucking contract will do. Landlords are really nice too. They let people live in their property as long as they pay once every thirty days
>>105641176>chinese tariffslol you have no idea who's manufacturing them
>>105614550based
>>105641317People don't work for free, just like landlords don't let people live on their properties for free. They always ask for the money upfront. Unless they somehow happen to trust the person so much to pay them back later.
>>105641489So much trust they have in her that didn't write up a contract to legally bind her into paying them? Retarded
>>105641145>Mint relied on money she hasn't received from over a year to pay for a debut she planned in advance instead of the money she'd get from the debutFebruary to June is not "over a year". And she recorded it in June, not October when she revealed her birthday merch.>He said as he was not able to prove that Mint got her insurance backWell either she has it, or she's making enough money to pay for everything out-of-pocket. Otherwise she would be complaining about it on Twitter still.>Dig through archives to find a tweetYes, do it. Provide proof to your claims. Come on, chop chop!
>>105641317The cost that she paid is the 'real cost' of producing a 3D event. That is the cost Nijisanji is actually paying every time they host a 3D event too. Maybe they have a bit of efficiency gains. But in terms of 'order of magnitude' Nijisanji is shelling out $100's of thousands for every 3D event.So Elira does a 3D karaoke special that gets $200 in superchat and maybe $400 vod revenue, that doesn't even cover her plane ticket. They just took a massive financial loss to feed Elira's ego. Not to mention the opportunity cost. They could have rented the studio out to some gacha game and made a clean profit measured in the 7 figures. Or they could have give JP the studio and gotten another 200,000 ccv stream out of it. That pays for itself.There's a reason Elira is "addicted" to the 3D studio. That is millions of dollars worth of value she's drinking up, like a pig at a trough. Her entire life is based around getting into that studio, because the value she's getting is more than her measly paycheck could afford if she worked her entire life.
>>105641543It would be very odd for them to agree to a contract telling them to work free for now (June), and only get paid back later (October). Especially when she could have ended up never releasing it, meaning Toei never getting paid for the work they did. Unless they trusted the person enough to write that into contract, of course.
>>105641551Mint did not get by Vshojo ever. So she was not talking about relying on Vshojo money ever. Pretty simple stuff>She's not still complaining about insurance therefore she has insurance or she's rich >Also waste your time finding the tweet I admitted to knowing exists and confirmed that I readMintcucks truly are a different breed
>>105641644They're not working for free. They had a contract. Do you think people get paid to build a house before or after it's finished, retard? The entire point of a contract is that you are legally forcing someone to keep their word
>>105641710nta but Toei is a big studio. It makes no sense to take an IOU from an unknown who won't even be in the country by the time they're expected to pay.
>>105641710>Mint did not get by Vshojo ever. So she was not talking about relying on Vshojo money ever. Pretty simple stuffYes, she did. You posted the transcript saying so, even.>She's not still complaining about insurance therefore she has insurance or she's richCorrect. If she was still having issues with her medical insurance, she would continue to be tweeting about them.>Continues not posting the tweet.Nobody is going to ever believe you if you continue to refuse to post proof. No wonder you seem so desperate to force this.
>>105641776A house can be resold to someone else. Time spent providing services cannot.
>>105641910>You posted the transcript saying so, even.She never said she was relying on getting paid by Vshojo. Try again >Things only exist if Mint tweets about themI guess her parents don't exist if she hasn't tweeted about them >Please waste your time looking for something I already admitted existedNo, I don't think I will
>>105641954So? That still means the people building it aren't getting paid. That's the point of contracts
>>105642066>She never said she was relying on getting paid by Vshojo. Try againShe said she was relying on "other merch money". What other merch money would she have been referring to back in AUGUST? Not birthday merch, because her birthday wasn't until October, and she didn't open orders on her birthday merch until after the 3D debut.>I guess her parents don't exist if she hasn't tweeted about themGuess what? She has tweeted about her mom, so we know she exists!>No, I don't think I willI accept your concession ;)
The argument boils down to>Riku is a retard who blows millions on 3D stuff for Elira, because he loves spending money on her specifically. Therefore Elira is richer
>>105642142A contract with WHO though? That's what matters here. Houses are built in the hopes that somebody comes along and buys it in the future. The same cannot be done with the services provided by Toei.
>>105642391I don't know if richer, but she's certainly happy. She's got everything covered and basically just streams for fun, while Mint has to work her ass off because in her mind everybody will hate her and abandon her if she takes even a week of rest
>>105642497Happy streaming to nobody, while mentioning da bois every 20 seconds since her career is orbiting.
>>105586258Well before tax and production costs. She would also have to pay someone for the packaging and organizing the shipping,etc. . Still a lot more than the niji bitch though.
>>105643288The merch provider is handling all that.
>>105633906Actually, there's a very easy way to solve this problemEnna exists and she's explicitly more of a bitch than Elira ever was even if you look at her pre-Niji history as a twittard activistIt's VERY easy to spin the story as Enna telling her to kick Selen down and organizing the black stream because being that spiteful is perfectly in-character for Enna and, unlike Elira, she's been far more vocal about trying to bury or hide the incident
>>105643288After her mistake with the plushies (she just ordered 1K to be produced and those were immediately sold out), all of her merch is preorder only this time, that bundle is an exception since there's a signed card in it. In any way, she will make a profit out of it since none of her stock goes to waste. But surely the merch provider's cut is so large that she makes less than Elira who got like two Dollars or three in supas.
>>105643631And you think they are doing it for free? Are you retarded? And no they are not paying her taxes.
>>105644021I don't see how it would be any different from the way other vtuber merch companies (including Nijisanji) handle it, just that she gets a bigger cut than she did before.
>>105644021weird thing to hone in on. All of the payment for packaging/shipping/etc. would already be accounted for in the prices
>>105643865That might work on a woman audience, thinking Enna is the root cause and vindicating her, but men will just think they are both evil and worked together to drive away all the good people.
>>105640868>nijisister larper exposes herself as a phaseniggerTheeeeere it is.
>>105611771The fucked up thing is that whoever is in charge of that fiasco was probably praised for their work rather than reprimanded, since NijiEN proceeded to do the exact same strategy with Twisty while Aster got off scott free.
>>105622247So did you just like ignore that this is a post from 2 days prior or what.
>>105647970This "sister" is so over the top I refuse to believe that actual "people" are so brain damaged, but this is /vt/ after all so you never know.
>>105574001Never too late.
>>105636365Mint is friends with all of them. Who are the friends of Nijisanji?
