>>105583770
Huh, that's the same day as new Phase

Why?

>>105583770
Are Liron and Elias from the same artist?

>>105583770
Cool.
Still not interested, but from what little I've seen, they're basically what NijiEN should've been. They seem cool.

>>105583770
one is bettel 2

>>105583770
First Gen looked more Holostars like, these have the Chinese gacha/Niji EN generic look

>>105584265
Yes, he is called "ChatGPT-san"

>>105583770
da bois 2

>>105584828
that'd be cool. It'd be nice to see him again

>>105583770
thought their designs would be cooler, green hair guy got the good end of the stick

also with their auditions they clearly were looking for holostars impersonators

>>105583831
now I know which debut relay I'll watch

>>105583770
Wait, they debuting the same day with phase, coincidence?

Who are the intended audience for these? Homosexuals?

>>105583770
gay.

>>105583770
>Yellow Vesper
>Purple Vesper
>White Flayon
>Dog Shinri
>Miku Bettel

>>105583770
Are any of them funny

>>105583770
Samefag

>>105584871
These characters were definitely put together by a neural net. They look like **insert everything you've ever seen here**

>>105583831
Phase is getting males now

>>105583770
>male vtubers
>effeminate models
>retarded names
why.

Fujos on twitter keep freaking out and saying not to bring them up in the Holo boys’ chat. What’s the big secret?

>something no one asked for

>>105589715
Two of them ate brothers to other Homostars talents. This has actualy caused an uproar on /cbdct/ because as far as i understand it one of these nepohires didn't even have a previous internet presence before appearing as a collab partner on the Purple Brid's streams, and the other one supposedly isn't even funny on his own.

>>105590515
*are brothers

>>105589715
one of them is the clown homos brother, the Bettel 2 guy
the other one is the spic homo's brother

>>105590515
They're making a big deal about this like it'll change anything for the worse. Probably Bettel will do a collab or two (definitely not as many because they're both gonna be too busy) and that's it. If you already hate the clown, it's not gonna make anything worse.

>>105591583
>bettel
>busy
The only thing he’s ever made himself busy with is serving his personal life, Shiki is about to be priority one

>>105591605
Whatever you say, bettelschizo.

hakkabro, now's the time for you to lose weight

>>105592704
If hakka hasnt lost any why should he

>>105586702
>>Purple Vesper
Hehehe

>>105586472
Have you ever heard of women?

>>105586426
Yeah probably, FSP posted their dates first tho. So if anything its Phase that overlapped. Nothing of value was lost, they have totally different target anyway.

>>105590515
Hakka's brother was an indie vtuber at one point, though no idea if he was prior to his brother debuting in Stars or only after. He's fine, just a dude, kind of bland but nothing wrong with him.

Bettel2 tried being a flesh streamer after he appeared onstream with Bettel and on Magni's failed Professor shit. He could barely stay in 2 view range and it's clear anyone who watched him were the 10 ultra weird simps he got and the rest were people waiting for him to talk about Bettel. Basically, unless he's with Bettel, he's pathetically boring. He also has a garbage personality since it can be boiled down to "I'm so much smarter than everyone, so I'll just unendingly shit on people during my brother's stream" and "oh lol I'm so witty let me 4th wall break about vtubing teehee idol culture bad lmao I'm so based". There's a reason no one wants him around even besides the collab spam.

>>105583770
Kill yourself for making this thread

>>105584871
You say this about every single male vtuber

>>105593750
Anons here think about men so much they're turning themselves gay

They did it! The fujos nepo hiring each other really pulled it off. They turned NijiEN into a male only fujo haven.
Now if only the remaining whores would just fuck off.....

>>105594598
NTA but the art on these models are horrendously generic. The red guy probably has the best 'design' but Jesus, these are plain oatmeal with nothing added.

>>105594540
Bettel2 is the most surprising pick since he seemed to burn out and hate his brother’s audience in record time, FSP audience of parasocial yumes are even smaller and more ravenous, will he even like performing for them? Hakkabro at least has the latino warmth and the other indies are so unknown as to be hungry enough to work for their keep. Nepo king won’t be happy if he can’t farm ez 3K doryaa and akasupa whales

>>105594831
Yeah the dipshit basically got all the benefits of being in Holostars without having to be in it: didn't have to stream constantly, could just say bullshit and dip, benefitted from his brother's oil barons, etc. Kek, he's so fucked now since FSP basically has a completely different style fanbase from Stars. Plus he's now full corpo, so whole new NDA, no more free ridealongs from Cover, he gets to deal with perms, now HAS to do idol shit for real, etc. If he lasts longer than a year I'd be shocked.

>>105594831
>>105595744
I just don't know what the fuck the hiring team was thinking. Gen 1 is amazing, gen 2 has mostly good hires, I'm looking forward to the angel and scientist and dogboy for gen 3 but I feel like they're going to be burdened by these two nepohires. I wish they stuck to finding hidden gems instead of taking the easy way out.

Hakkabro at least seems to have a nice personality and the tact to not overstay his welcome. Sucks that he's stuck with a complete charisma vacuum like Bettel2 as his genmate though. I hope the other three can help make up for it.

>>105595891
Mad scientist seems to have the most potential. Exuberant energy, good vocal range, immersive acting (you can tell when somebody’s cringing at their own yume lines, he gloried in the audience POV), great model, color scheme, strongly defined niche with a lot of room for lore play. As for the others… it’ll be a hard road to pick up the slack and polish their skills, but I guess that’s what the idol journey is for. Giving the whitest guy u know the chuuni weeaboo model and the latino a criminal background is comedy/10 hiring tactics.

>>105596033
In all fairness, StarsEN gave the obvious Latino the most Japanese-looking model of the bunch and it ended up suiting him fine because he loves and embraces it. I'm not worried so much about that aspect.

>>105596033
It's just his accent is so fucking heavy. It feels like he doesn't practice speaking in English much and doesn't enunciate his words well. I never cringe at yume fanservice but I winced and shuddered so hard when I listened to his debut teaser video.

>>105594781
Angry femanon....

Hakkabro and Bettel2 being nepohired into stars was discussed awhile ago and that would’ve been 100x worse imo so I think bettelschizo should count his blessings. Make another company make that mistake

>>105596528
They will be some of the worst performing corpo males in the industry. And is it true that underhill nigga is in as well? Faggot just cant get a hint the world doesnt care about him.

Why didn't Vesper or Magni joined...? Would have been funnier than shitter nepohires

>>105596567
Underhill the Niji EN simp/"journalist"/twitter troll? That can't be real

>>105596715
>get fired from cover
>no jap corp hire
I wonder

>>105597010
Thats what someone said but i dont know the faggots voice enough. He recently graduated from mythos another failed male corpo.

>>105596715
FSP is on good terms with holostars

>>105596715
>too much of a contrarian fuckup to hack it in any company even a low stakes 3view one
>too arrogant/proud

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>>105594540
Would be funny if instead of being an indie she was just randomly in Phase or like Glitch Stars or Vallure

>>105597154
Anon... is that male or a female?

>>105596234
>>105596033
>>105595891
>>105595744
>>105594831
>>105594540
>>105590515
Are you people gay or female? Why are you so invested on this? Let me rephrase that, why are you so invested on this when this is the drama board of vtubing and people are only here for the bait?

>>105597972
anon half the board is femanons, male vtubers are on the rise

>>105598050
I find this hard to believe...

i have to say I like how the teaser is like an otome game opening

Do we know who else got in?

>>105598277
check NijiEN and other boy threads

>>105598050
It's like 10-20% but still sizeable enough.

>>105597972
>drama board
>anon did not expect it to be filled with fags and sisters
Comon now

holostars might wanna debut a new wave before fsp take all their watches. i'm sure hakka and bettel are gonna help with that. and then everyone's gonna complain about holostars not getting enough attention again. can't wait

The person who mentioned people assuming shiki is gay because he's beautiful were right...They're already calling him fruity and he is driving into the bit. I was wrong. Lmfao.

>>105600553
I know this is going to be completely shocking to you, but the amount of audience crossover between StarsEN and FSP is exceedingly low.

>>105601377
Are you sure, a lot of the people posting lamentus seem to oddly have holo pfp, I wonder why. I can't put my finger on it.

It's either FSP management got kicked in the head and thinks stars relatives are the best candidates, or EN male pool is dry as fuck and Niji took the last bit of worthwhile males in their latest wave.

>>105583770
Wake me up when First Stage Production EN 3rd Gen destroyed First Stage Production JP entirely.

>>105601456
Actually they're copying Niji. Which is extremely smart on their behalf. A couple of people have mentioned already that they seem to be using the same artists. And A couple of Niji earlier groups are neophires. they were all in a friend group. Later I'm sure FSP management will also start hiring actual indies. But they're being smart about it and copying Niji. They know it'll all blow over.

>>105583770
I like how they all look the same except for the hair.

>>105601921
hiring indies who had connection is different from hiring brothers of big agency talents. it's clear that fsp thinks that hiring these people meant Cover did free advertisement for them

>>105586472
women, faggots and cucks

>>105602014
And I'm on my fyp and seeing a ton of starmins already creating art of them with tons of retweets. It's clear this company did this to draw in viewers from holo and it's working.

>>105601377
I have no idea what you're talking about tons of Ruzaders have been drawing art of the new boys. Also, some of the people I follow who follow the stars have already changed their pfp to the new boys.

>>105602294
That was exactly their plan and it fucking worked. I guarantee you it would only really be the FSP fans talking about them if the 2 neophires weren't in that gen. The exact same shit happened with their second gen using Bettel and Ruze's mamas, got a bunch of the Stars fans all "eeeeee~ brothers~!", and a year later all of them are barely get better CCV than fucking Flayon and Goldbullet.

>>105602729
the average IQ of EN vtuber fan

>>105602729
You're right. Holy shiet. Except the second gen are pretty much getting around the same viewers as them. It's usually not a good sign imo, because most the new fans aren't coming from niji who already have the advantage they're coming from stars who are already at a disadvantage and maybe cover just doesn't care.

>>105599390
>>105598312
Most of the traffic on this board is driven by the phase general and the monkey containment thread. Even /mans/ can keep a general here.

>>105597030
Mythos was never a male corpo. It was all females, they decided to debut males for some reason, and then all those males quit.

>>105597972
Why the fuck is this board so obsessed with the thought that everyone is a homosexual male? I thought there would be straight men here but I guess it's full of faggots if you guys think everyone else is a faggot. Well male vtuber fandoms are full of dykes so I guess it makes sense female vtuber fandoms are full of fags.

>>105601921
>copying Niji
>barely collabing with females
>the extreme rare time they do collab with females they're never brought up again and continue focusing on guy collabs
?????

>>105604169
GUYS ASH IS BISEXUAL

>>105604367
Huh? 'Cause Niji has both female/male talents? Why are you confused. You're making an entirely different point.

>>105604169
Because most vtuber males are? It's vtubing? It's literally the cesspool of the queer community?

>>105604578
>queer community
go back

How does shiki look more feminine than uki? Lmfao.

>>105602729
Unless some idiot staff decides to change things for the worse.

>>105605277
As a ruzader I know it's bad because I keep seeing art of Shiki vs the other new members on my fyp.

>>105605154
fsp finally realized how sexy long-haired bishounen are

>>105605419
They're just copying the chinese designers. The FSP management company made a ton of good marketing moves ngl.

>>105605475
Of course, FSP EN can't be overconfident that they'll outlast any Reality Studios agency.

I mean, Specialite lost their EN branch this month so unless there's a change of management, IchiPro EN can't afford to fuck it up.

>>105594540
wait bettel 2 was shitting on idol culture and nobody made a catalogue thread about it? Guess only sisters watch his shit

>>105605728
Most of them have at some point realistically.

>>105605823
nah it was full on bashing on cover to the point where bettel had to tell him to stop

>>105605891
Oh. Well, I doubt they'd make it a big deal unless he became super popular but that's not gonna happen. So most people will pretend it never happened, or they'll sympathize with him.

>>105596528
>cover hiring them would’ve been worse
Having them hired as affiliates without their own channels but still able to be officially sold on merch and shit would’ve been better for Cover than them being poached by another company. Any potential revenue is now gone and their viewer boosting streams are now likely forbidden.

>>105605373
>As a ruzader
Are you a faggot or a foid?

>>105606252
everyone knows ruzaders are straight buff men

>>105605891
Or the time he actually complained in a zatsu about how, when he went with Bettel to Japan in 2024, his flight and stuff wasn't compensated for (because no fucking shit you actual leech: Bettel was there to work, do shit at Expo, and get ready for his 3D showcase; you were on a vacation from your non-existent job) and that Yagoo should just hire him so next time he could travel for free. /MANS/ was fucking pissed and even when Bettel tried to save it a damn near palpable pregnant pause, it was clear how fucking bad it looked.

https://www.youtube.com/live/_FXp2154KAs?t=8912s

>>105605728
No, he’s actually a vtuber fan. His sarcasm just offends autists and eslfags who can’t read tone like >>105605891 but bettel did have to redirect his reddit tier snark a few times though I’ll give them that. Hiring this kind of personality in a yume corpo who like their fantasies was a bad idea

>>105606087
He not only shat all over every corporation and work culture in an epic anti capitalist rage, he went on frequent tangents about how he would love to just magically change into a female and jiggle his tits on cam for free simp bux, and talked up how easy hololive girls have it as guaranteed millionaires on debut just for being big titty simulator and that he would love to be a free ride nepobaby to milk idiots. It’s not that he didn’t pick up momentum as a fleshie because his brother’s vtuber fanbase only want digital boys, it’s because he was a supreme dickhead who continually shat all over the industry. “True vtuber fan” my ass.

>>105606670
uhhhh based

>>105596715
Randon doesnt like idol stuff
Caspurr..i dont know. Too proud i guess?

>>105606670
Is that why he became a woman?

>>105583770
>3rd gen
So what is the viewership numbers like for this corpo, better or worst than homos?

>>105607138
Ugh then why did he apply for holo? Huh?

>>105607487
>take up “uki but gayer” model and start hard pushing shipping yourself with your genmates
I guess so

>>105607540
Magni - wanted to do music
Vesper - shits and giggles (he admitted this on stream and implied that he was surprised that cover actually take his audition seriously)

>>105606428
Not the ones that post /here/

>>105607500
Which homo's? Niji or Holo? Fsp members are sitting between the number of flayon/ocatvio/goldie. Between niji? Ugh no one maybe ryoma and klara. Actually they're doing better than them.

>>105607575
Except they're going to be okay with him because he's obviously straight.

>>105604071
their numbers were shit anyway they were debuting male members as femele goddesses (genderswapped) and female as male probably sounded like a good idea in theory

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>>105590515
What are the chances one of the other three lied about being related to a famous vtuber?

>>105607640
both of them hoped for the paycheck nothing more to it

>>105608135
The schizo's been real quiet since you dropped this bomb.

>>105600553
they should just shut this shitshow down

>>105607692
Isnt homos just Holostars because homostars?
>number of flayon/ocatvio/goldie
Isnt that bottom of the barrel 3view territory, what is their management thinking debuting a 3rd gen when the first two gen arent even 4view, it cant be a good for their financial situation.

>>105607500
A lot are around 1 finana on a good day. They’re just your average microcorpo but male. They seem to be doing well though, all of them got 3D debuts faster than stars.

>>105608297
Well it's hard to tell, because people refer to niji as the fujo company.
>what is their management thinking debuting a 3rd gen
They got holo buff. I'm assuming they need more people to cash in and why risk it on indies?

>>105607138
>Randon doesnt like idol stuff
I dont think thats the main reason, I still believe the rrat that he quit because Magni convinced him to, probably promised him something grand "making it big as indie bros" or some shit.

>>105608477
Yeah, I was curious about this because that the hell. They just debuted? Is it because they're all in Japan now?

>>105608554
It's very possible seeing as they're still super close now.

>>105608554
Vesper never turned in his vocals for the music tracks that were planned to be released in july, instead he went on hiatus and the company spent about seven weeks removing all traces of him from the anniversary projects before “graduating” them both. I think vesper wanted out because he didn’t care about being a stage idol or pursuing music, and he had some kind of retarded brothership pact where if one goes, they both go. Which would explain why he made peace with it instantly but magni was constantly crashing out and raging about unfairness and being ripped off.

>>105602294
>holo

homo, actual hololive fans couldn't care less.

>>105605643
Specialite didn't know what the fuck they were doing and spammed collabs with one single NijiEN guy. They didn't make themselves unique and interesting outside of "those girls that collab with Ryoma" and thus no one was interested in them. FSPEN is more popular by a long shot so at the very least they'll last a lot longer.

>>105606428
you will never be a man sister

>>105609037
>Which would explain why he made peace with it instantly but magni was constantly crashing out and raging about unfairness and being ripped off.
this makes sense the other way around. vesper convinced magni to leave because vesper wanted out. magni was reluctant but believed that he and vesper could stake it out as indie but realized that he lost a lot more than he thought he would while randon was living his dream after bagging fauna. magni's breakdowns line up with regret following vesper out only to be left out to dry shortly after.

>>105609149
Uki get off half chan.

>>105608500
>need more people to cash in
From what i have observed at least, male vtubers have a very limited fanbase and oil baronesses are few, so i dont think think they are gonna get more people to cash in, instead they are just going to have the new guys fighting for scraps.

>>105609037
>Which would explain why he made peace with it instantly
He was going to permanently retire but Caspurr encouraged him to come back as Randon

>>105606670
Is he wrong though? Every man on this board says they only watch female vtubers as a pretend girlfriend despite spouting how much they hate women. And didn't people get pissy when that clock girl didn't show off her model more often? You guys prove him right, it is easy to be a hololive girl because all she would have to do is jiggle her tits for easy simp bux
>inb4 "le heckin jealous sister", thus proving my point with how easy it is to get simps

>>105609374
Exactly, they're saying the community is growing but that's not true. The starmins are just going to disperse between the FSP talents. Some of them are probably going to be from Niji, but most are definitely from holo.

>>105609111
>long shot
>few hundred CCV

woah there let's not get ahead of ourselves it's all who tier but orbiting unpopular niji EN males sure is hell of a choice apparently that V4Mirai girl was also obsessed with barrenwomb for some reason what is it about this dude? For most of us he's a niji fuckboi No 9872 but small corpo girls keep killing their careers just to collab with him.

>>105605891
WTF clip?

>>105609407
you will never be a woman

>>105606670
clip? stream timestamp?
I aint watching 100 hours of homo streams

>>105608037
No one brought up their numbers you chimp I'm just saying it was never a male corpo. It started out all female.

>>105609672
I’m not trawling his runescape vods from late 2023, you go look it up. I gave him a chance when he first started streaming but he was criminally boring and unpleasant to be around, always talking about being blackpilled and hopecel as fuck
https://youtube.com/@reeserratarchive

>>105608297
They do well superchat and merch-wise. Small, dedicated audience that gives them enough money to put out covers and original songs doesn't sound so bad to me.

>>105610007
the parent company still burns an unjustifiable amount of money on them, they ran ads on all debuts and original songs, jp artists, really fast 3d (questionable quality though) and even bought flight ticket for starsEN to join their event before

>>105609847
I'm saying they've probably graduated due to low numbers it's not their passion project to play anime fuckboi if they don't make enough money it would be a major factor.

>>105606670
>Could have been the FWMC of homos but his twin is actually evil
kek

>>105610103
that's vecause they've poached holostars director manager

>>105608554
Magni was probably being poached by Vshojo and convinced Vesper to follow him but who knows perhaps both of them were in talks independently we only know IM talked with Magni around the time similar to how Matara started interacting with Quinn (secretly poached and dumped niji) of course neither of them will ever admit this because there is nothing to gain.

>>105606582
>/MANS/ was fucking pissed
kek it took me so long to find because “leech” is such a spammed term
https://warosu.org/vt/thread/86901929#p86925851
https://warosu.org/vt/thread/86901929#p86926696

It's 2025 and they'll never forget the bit of August 2023

>>105609906
at least give me some keywords man perhaps AI could parse through it

>>105609519
This thread really is full of ESL number monkeys huh? I'm talking about Specialite and you just went in a completely different direction from the conversation.

>>105609630
And you will never be human, chimp

>>105583770
Something about these samey tall Chinese/Korean bishi twink designs is always off-putting to me

>>105610743
>t. jealous incel

>>105583770
Im convinced theres some money laundering scheme going on with these male vtuber debuts

>>105610498
This is still my theory. The timing is just too fucking perfect.

>>105610743
Jealousy is a disease.

who is which PL

>>105610235
Lol would be funny if they got canned because of magni and vespar.

>>105610498
This is also the only reason the contract rrat would make any sense, where Magni was supposedly asking for too much in his new holostars contract. If he was receiving an offer from a rival corpo trying to poach him then he would think he could use it as leverage against Cover, only for it to blow up spectacularly in his face as Cover refuse to budge and Vshojo were just lying to him.

Of course, this assumes that there ever was a contract dispute, which I had never seen any concrete evidence for (no, the EN girls making a joke about a lawyer doesn't count, there's no reason why they would know anything about contract negotiations in holostars).

>>105606582
How does anyone like this entitled faggot??? What a fucking shameless leech. Cant wait for him to become 2view in this corpo.

>>105606670
If you are a hater enough to know this why not record it or post a webm? That would kill his reputation even more.

>>105607138
Not proud enough to not leech off of them the second he tweets KEK

>>105609285
>magni
>reluctant
He was beyond checked out for the longest time and was doing professor streams while still in the corpo vesper wasnt even streaming on his past account.

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>>105605419
Anon, they already had Cass in their first gen

>>105612796
Not a flesh board and his 25 viewers don’t care

>>105612728
If you are a vtuber you will always have fans, no matter how bad you are.

>>105614490
I bet you he wouldnt have 2 viewers if he wasnt related to bettel

I noticed some of them had collabed with the boys at some point. So at this point, I'm starting to think they all have connections in some degree.

>>105617074
what did you think, they were avoiding men in their private lives for our sake?

I find it hilarious how currently Elias has pretty much taken over the timeline. Even without the buff. We love to see it.

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>>105621013
for me it's all shiki. he's beautiful so I'm not complaining

>>105621284
yeah. apparently it's either shiki and elias. however, once they start streaming that could shift.

how many foids are in this thread

>>105621284
will you still love him after he fishes for lobster in runescape for eleven hours straight

>>105621808
every post with more than 10 words in it

>>105610103
It would be bad if Reality Studios ran out of money, thus they'll have to cut a lot of spending, even as far as closing down one of the agencies.

Realistically, they'll keep RK Music, First Stage Production EN, and Specialite JP.

>>105583831
>>105583770
who

>>105583770
soon

>>105625632
I dont see them running out of money anytime soon, hell they are one of brave group investors.
https://bravegroup.co.jp/en/news/4560/#:~:text=Eiji%20Araki%2C%20President%20and%20CEO,further%20boost%20this%20global%20market!

>>105583831
I guess they figure women won't be watching Phase anyway

>>105634155
I mean, they're right. The fanbase overlap between those groups must be like two people max.

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>>105610743
lol you have nasty hoes calling you jealous for that?
It's always so damn homosexual. Like look at the blonde. I've seen his type so many times in anime and I usually love the archetype. But to cash in on lonely women I guess they gotta make him look like he lives for dick.

>>105583770
QRD on First Stage? I saw them debut and assumed they'd be just another pack of 2 view m*les, but I got rec'd a few streams that seemed to actually have numbers that're competitive with other small corpos

>>105634804
They are marketed effectively and backed by a big Japanese company with a lot of money, plus they are playing to a very under-served niche. (Male-only EN group that mainly does male-only collabs) The talents have lots of friends in both Niji and Holostars, so they've had an easier time getting noticed than the average small corpo.

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>make bait catalog thread about male vtubers on (gay) /vt/
>bite
>bite
>bite
>bite
>bite

>>105625150
I will only love him after he fishes for lobster in runescape for eleven hours straight

>>105608554
Randon took 3 months of singing lessons before he graduated and he was going to permanently retire but Caspurr encouraged him to come back as Randon

honestly, elias and shiki should have switched models. their voices and i have a feeling that their personalities would fit each others models better. but shiki's urge as a straight men to pretend to be a woman was too strong i'm sure.

>>105621284
he looks so much like Gakupo kek

>>105635822
Fuck man at least it has more than 4 posts for once sheesh