Anniversary Sonch EditionWelcome to /xvsj+/! A thread to discuss vtubers who were once associated with a hot pink company.No one is fucking live. However Kson has her 4 year anniversary stream soon(in like 6 hours). That's all that's happening at the moment so pick a stream and keep things comfy and civil by ignoring and especially reporting bait, and being excellent to each other.Image source: https://x.com/isuka_syumi/status/1978475964481884200/xvsj+/ includes:Amalee - https://www.twitch.tv/leeandlie Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot Geega - https://www.twitch.tv/geega Haruka - https://www.twitch.tv/harukakaribu Henya - https://www.twitch.tv/henyathegenius Hestia - https://www.twitch.tv/hestiahappiness Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime Hotaru - https://www.twitch.tv/akatsukidhotaru Kson - https://www.twitch.tv/ksonsouchou Kuro - https://www.twitch.tv/k9kuro Mata - https://www.twitch.tv/matarakan Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody Michi - https://www.twitch.tv/michimochievee Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse Nagi - https://www.twitch.tv/NagIsekaied Nazuna - https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners Peke - https://www.twitch.tv/pekeispeak Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/vei Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya Related /in/dies:Beri - https://www.twitch.tv/beribug Tori - https://www.twitch.tv/torioriane Mint - https://www.youtube.com/@mintfantomeFeebee - https://www.twitch.tv/feebee Pia - https://www.twitch.tv/piapiufo Momo - https://www.twitch.tv/momo Related:/999/ + /総長/ + /nova/ + /voms/ for Japanese talents once associated with a hot pink company/lig/ and /big/ for more generalized + and friends discussionPrevious thread: >>105650672
Love Mouse
EVIL WOMAN
>>105659394REFUNDEFUND
>>105659394I'm still sad about the spats
>>105659394ngl, I got scared for a moment there
I love lewd waifu Mouse
>>105659461Mouse hates you
>>105659461Mouse loves you
11/10
Give me your favorite ex-vsj anime arcs.1. Early days 2020 arc.2. SNIVS arc3.OTK arc.4.Vei, Nyanners and Silver leaving arc5.Cancel Nux arc6. Cancel Vshojo arc7.Vchiban arc
>>105658646I really hope you are right I would love both more Mouse r18 and bubi r18 dakis.
>>105659589The period after Vei joined all the way until the OTK game show. That's when everything went downhill.
>>105659589babegate aka goslingcalypse arc
>>105659589Nothing beats watching vshojo burn to the ground in a single day.I was following every tweet, reddit post and here post for the entire day.
>>105659589Prime Nyan
>>105659589Pink love arc because it's what got me into vtubers
>>105659589That one month period after Geega joined before all the ex nijis came in.
>>105659589war with nijisanji arc hiring matara.
>>105659331Unironically I think Haruka pushing Sykkuno to donate the gift subs during the 2nd subathon that led to him dropping Mouse as a regular collab partner. He whined on his stream after that and that felt like the moment he stopped doing regular collabs with Mouse.
>>105659688BASED MOOSE
>>105659688>He whined on his stream after that and that felt like the moment he stopped doing regular collabs with Mouse.Wait what did he say?
>>105659688based harukerI kneel
>>105659688WTF I love Haruka now.
>>105659708>>105659712>>105659728I mean pressuring someone into giving money is kind of scummy even if it's someone you don't like
>>105659712I highly doubt he did that. Sykkuno probably made one of his corny jokes and that anon took it seriously.
>>105659688make haruka a regular collab partner so we can get rid of the rest of the undesirables
>>105659688Haruka was being autistic about it and Mouse apologized to him after.
>>105659589For this thread?Honestly hexergate because it was so retarded that it became really funny lol
>>105659774that would just make ari even more likely to show up
>>105659754Yeah I don't really like sykkuno but Haruka was in the wrong there.
>>105659774You do realize that Haruka is the main reason we have to suffer from Ari right?
>>105659799haruka will find a way to get rid of her for us too
>>105659644I still laugh over one of the OP's during that period just being a fucking tiktok >>102669786
>>105659754>>105659805she's quite literally retardedcut her some slack
>>105659754ok but>sykkuno
I don't get the sykkuno hate desu
>>105659760You can go search his VODS and the archive when it happened if you don't believe me. He really didn't appreciate feeling coerced to donate by chat spamming him with Haruka egging it on. He didn't specifically call out Haruka he just whined about what happened after.
>>105659688Holy shit, Mousefags do memory hole stuffNo, it wasn't that you dweebs, remember that after that it was the Fortnite and LC spam where it mostly included Sykkuno. As to why afterwards they stopped doing things, was becasue Sykkuno stopped doing a lot of collabs because of GTARP in which he invited both GEEGA and Mouse. And eventually stopped inviting Mouse over because she would often not arrive in time.Hell I'm pretty sure the one bait image of Mouse running from a collab into a Sykkuno collab was after the subathon
>>105659589whenever vei streamed
>>105659855I wouldn't say I hate him but I don't like that he only ever seems to show up when Mouse is doing some big event or got some big award. He never appears any other time.
>>105659688sykkuno is not a good friend he keeps his distance and he sad farms way too hard
>>105659712their was s clip if someone can find it
>>105659908Anon he used to appear much more often including in more mundane collabs. That was actually when people kept complaining about him,People don't complain about him as much now that he isn't showing up as often.
>>105659855Mousefags hate him for the same reason they hated Ari and/or Candii, they took too much time with collabs. Add that he's a dude so naturally a lot of the early days included the same shitpost you saw for Corpse or bbno$. And he got really annoying in some collabs like Zen It was like a trifecta of all the things wrong for them. I'm pretty sure whenever he appeared in other people streams reactions always were>oh man sykkuno is in this to >you know what, sykkuno ain't half bad
>>105659958It has nothing to do with collab frequency. Some people just found him, along with Ari and Candii, too annoying.No one complains about frequent collab partners if they are good.
>>105659589Their appearance on that game show was actually the first step in me becoming a fan of vtubers and VShojo. I saw a clip compilation of their appearance on YT, and remember thinking the three of them were really funny and entertaining while sounding cute. Then I went down the rabbit hole from there.Up to that point my 'interaction' with vtubers was mostly seeing them occasionally recommended to me on Twitch and then cringing with secondhand embarrassment at some model with ZZZ-size anti-gravity titties just flailing around everywhere while coomer baiting. And those vtubers still exist, don't get me wrong lol.
I miss being a schizophrenic parasocial retard. I feel more alone than ever... There is no delusion to shield me. I am naked and forsaken.
I miss her
>>105660000It wasn't so much the frequency, I mean kinda was for a while. But Sykkuno would often interrupt streams too, and Mouse dropped everything for him. That's what people started to hate on him. Which was a bit similar to whenever Candii appeared on chat or Ari during the first months of their friendship although Ari already carried the burden of being that on Zen's streams
>>105660001Mouse, Nyan, Vei, and Snuffy also were all in particular very good introductions to vtubers for different reasons. There was some good diversity in that lineup
Whenever Sykkuno shows up on Geega's streams, he's actually been funny and chill.
>>105660060He hasn't collabed with him recently but Sykkuno was always fine to me when he collabed with Aethel too. I guess for some reason he's just cursed with Mouse
>>105660001I wonder what would have happened to Vei if she hadn't started dating soda after that showWould she still be stuck in her room in the UK
Give me an order on which male is loved the most to the most hated based on ironmouse collabs.The namesSykkuno, Corpse, Connor, bbno$, Aethel, heavenly father, toaster, Sodapoppin, Roflgator, mizkif, xqc, asmongold, hasan, piratesoftware.
>>105660103forgot shiabun
>>105659589VSJ post Kson joining was a constant disappointment. That AX was the height of the corp. When the three left I was only disappointed that Mouse and Zen were dumb enough to stay. There was some great additions later, but it never felt cohesive to me.
>>105660103forgot zen
>>105660103Why is soda on this list? He hasn't collabed with mouseAlso the list should focus on males who collab with her frequently like kuro
>>105660103no pete, kuro, ludwig, chris
Give me an order on which Geega is loved the mostThe namesGeega
>>105660149geega
>>105660136>males>kuro
>>105660083It wasn't being cursedI think had never found a dynamic that worked well for the autistic in this thread, coupled with another things, it just made him seem insufferable. Dude is alright.
>>105660053I completely forgot Snuffy was on that show too. Yeah, the four of them were just really funny together. And I remember Mouse's "A A A A" laugh really stuck with me too
I miss being excited for new talent. :(
Interesting
>>105659878Fortnite was Rae/Mouse. Sykkuno is just part of Rae's cir le so she invited him too.
>>105660125The one thing that was saving VShojo post mid-2023 was constantly bagging good hires. The company would have died ages ago had it not kept sustaining itself on the lifeforce of new talented chuubas that were taken advantage of.
>>105660169we're outsourcing to geex+ now
>>105660125Can't believe this year got me to say this, but Nazuna was unironically right. They needed more JPs, them two worked for a bit but needed their own system to breathe. Kson is one of those talents that I never felt like they were too integrated to the group.
>>105660198While Nazuna was right she didn't really help by having some weird autistic issue with Henya after she joined
>>105660194I don't think anybody cares about geex+ beside mousefags.
I don't mind Sykkuno and Ari in collabsIn fact, I'll go as far as saying they can be funny at times
>>105660237To be fair, I think Nazuna should have just joined as Mike. Never understood what was the logic behind making another characteranyway I found this absolute classic.
>>105660245mousefags are so clueless they dont even know mouse is already in a talent agency
>>105660257Careful, this is a sacrilegious statement in this thread apparently lol
>>105660162so many good iterations of this meme and mouse still manages to make it true. just swap out the bottom people
>>105660264Mouse...
>>105660257I do remember some moments of Sykkuno being funny, but I don't remember funny moments of Ari but I think it's mostly because I remember moments where she is there yet not the funny part.But I understand the hate, they appeared way too much and had one awful trait that people didn't like.
>>105660264welcome back beautiful
>>105659754Sykunno promised to donate 50 subs to Mouse and then tried to welsh and then the multimillionaire got all pissy on his own channel after Haruka simply asked him to follow through with his promise. The only vtuber orbiter worse than Sykunno was tectone and only Nyan and Aethel were retarded enough to hang out with that faggot multiple times
>>105660288I mean now that VShojo is dead there isn't any point to this meme though. There is no obligation to collab with xshojos anymore, indie life means you can do whatever you want now.
This one too.
>>105660264it was so her super fans have to buy two of everything.
why did vshojo do the stupid audition thing instead of directly scouting talent?
>>105660264Hey, there are only two to three spots as the token vtuber in OTV collabs. She has to make some sacrifices to maintain that connection.
>>105660325remove the V and it’s supposed to be her close friends up top. she just ditched henya today too lol
>>105659589I'm not a mousefag so I assume that for "vchiban arc" you are talking about this?
>>105660169My low-key hope is that Geega follows through with the idea she threw out of starting her own corp - maybe with a bunch of the former VShojos together as part-owners. Keep them together under a common banner, and all owning a piece of it there would be no one above them to rip them off. Plus actual vtubers would know better than anyone what kind of organizational support they need.There's something that just feels like it's lost not having them all under the same umbrella doing group projects and stuff.
>>105660309Fortunately the allegations gave Nyan and Aethel the perfect opportunity to drop Tectone but yeah that was a rough arc
>>105660349because the management was posting here and got trolled into being fucking retarded with the nepo bitching from catalog.
this ironmouse fellow seems like a terrible person
>>105660327kek
>>105660367did people care about that shit in 2021?
>>105660370is and has been for quite some time. took a big downturn around the 2nd subathon
>>105660367I'm 99% confident this is the case
>>105660360>the idea she threw out of starting her own corpShe never said this, she said the opposite lol
>>105660264damn legendary, Monkesperg missed prime bait
>>105660309I still think Aethel was making fun of Tectone and pretending to like him as a gag, but the guy noticed him and he felt bad, so he gave him a chance. He wasn't that bad at the time. Mask hadn't slipped entirely. I liked the "Fuck Nyanners" IRL clip.
>>105660350This is why I actually respect Sykkuno despite how much this thread hates him. The OTV+ crowd is so clique-ish to an annoying degree. Sykkuno is one of the few exceptions to this.Lilypichu is also kind of an exception.
>>105660349They wanted to kill 3 birds with one stoneFor one accusations had already been really messy, they got their fame from being the "nepo" corpo but I can't say that was really bad, and more just people wanted to do as the others instead of just taking advantage of pre existing fame The other one was Zen who wanted to saviorfag because of the first thingThe third and probably most important, they wanted to help out Mint with her idol project, but they didn't know who to pick that would like to be an idol + vtuber. They probably weren't aware that Feebee wanted to join or Milky was in the verge of leaving her group.Unironically those three would give us the plans that were generationsThe first one was NOVAThe second was the Beastiez + 4thAnd obviously the third were the IdolsAmalee just sticks a bit out between them because they needed money fast and Ama was already planned beforehand.
>>105660418People forget that tectone was friends with a lot of indie vtubers at the time. Despite how many viewers disliked him, he was actually decently liked among streamers.
>>105660430I was talking about the first audition from 2021 that resulted in Haruka
>>105660418Aethel is really good at making insufferable people much more tolerable in collabs like Tectone.Sykkuno is another example.
>>105660418Hey, there was a time when the OTK people seemed pretty cool too, before they one-by-one started getting outed as sex pests or general shitbags.
>>105660461yea hes hung out at cons with camila and shylily to name a couple
>>105660461Yeah idk why Nyan and Aethel got blasted for collabing with him in the past specifically
>>105660481 (me)all before this last year when hes gone full mask off to be clear
>>105660418That's cope from Aethelfags. They repeatedly said they thought he was funny and had tectone emotes in their chat. You can say they were just using him to get in with the OTK crowd but the fact they got involved with that rapist was cringe as fuck
>>105660462Oh, those iirc and I could be wrong, were kinda idealized by the talent or one manager out of "everyone is doing it, we should do it too!". They fucked up because they literally were a headless chicken without an actual plan to carry on after the audition and didn't had the goat Panini choosing talent, and with the Nux drama and other shit, they pussied out and tried to hire the obvious ones like Snuffy or Haruka, but Snuffy pulled out.
>>105660478This thread kept schizoposting over Soda but he turned out to be one of the few good ones lol
>>105660131schizo kys
>>105660501I barely watch him. It came off to me as tongue-in-cheek until it wasn't. >the fact they got involved with that rapist was cringe as fuckHindsight is 20/20. Do you also blame the girls for getting involved with Arcadum?
>>105660418Outing me as an old SodafagTectone is just Greek 2.0, he was funny but weird when he was fat. Then got fit and gained some weird confidence and had silent sperg out and everyone started dropping him for being just really fucking weird. For Greek it was talking shit about his "friends" for Tectone it was the twitter grifter thing.Aethel like Soda pretty much committed the same mistake lol
>>105660501He wasn't outed as a rapist at the time lolThey weren't trying to use him to get to other otk people either, they barely did any collabs with that crowd in general (including Tectone). The actual answer was that Nyan and Aethel were too nice and trusting of people at the time.
>>105660552>The actual answer was that Nyan and Aethel were too nice and trusting of people at the time.kektone turning out to be an awful person is an underrated reason for why nyan and aethel don't reach out for collabs much anymore with people they don't know
>>105660367There was no nepo bitching from the catalog until the first audiitions lasted a year and a half and resulted in hiring 1 girl that constantly collabed with them already.
>>105660606VShojo was always called a clique, which is essentially the same thing.
>>105660549nta but where do you draw the line? one or two bad apples in the past sure but mouse for instance has more bad apples than good and it never stops with people like bbnos, pirate software, hasan, asmon, or kai
>>105660549>>105660552>>105660592They still spoke kindly about him and still raided him after Fream dropped a dockey about how he's an abusive faggot. It wasn't until the 2nd woman came forth that they finally cut him off. Obviously it's a good thing they finally cut that piece of shit out but idk why people downplay their friendship
>>105660592That would really suck if true. Nyan and Aethel are great collab partners, both individually and together, yet they kind of just isolated themselves for a while.
>>105660349To attract more investors by showing them how many people audition.
>>105660644I mean no streamer wants to bring up how they used to be friends with Tectone. Even some OTK people try to downplay it even though he was in their org lol
>>105660665Actually good point. Making it so long was probably just to get more and more.
>>105660644you act as if they knew any of the details about his divorce, OTK/public opinion didnt ostracize him after that so why should they. wasnt til the 2nd girl
>>105660430As much as I like the NOVA girls, even at the time I was arguing that Zen's dream of the company elevating nobodies made no business sense for them. They were a company that (was supposed to have) subsisted entirely on selling merch and sponsorships - that business model works if you have established talent, or with some unestablished talent if you grow really, REALLY slowly and conservatively. 2views or 3views can be profitable if you're taking a big cut of every dollar they're making and own the IP itself like in many corps.VShojo needed to just own the idea of being the Harlem Globetrotters for western and former corpo vtubers. Being sensitive to the "nepo" bullshit never made sense to me.
>>105660643It doesn't stop because most streamers are bad people. Well most entertainers are really.
>>105660592>>105660660Nyan's always been pretty bad at reaching out. She was getting better for a while but I guess she relapsed into socially anxious cat mode. As her indentured manservant Aethel just follows orders.
>>105660504The aftermath of the VShojo crash actually presented a new theory that is unconfirmed but pretty believable. Based off Snuffy's story it seems possible that the auditions were just a cover to get her to join without having to pressure her by asking directly. Obviously her friends encouraged her to apply, but apparently MTD himself also slipped into her DM's and encouraged her to do so. She got sick and wasn't able to make the deadline but they accepted it anyway. By her own words her application wasn't very good because she was still sick but despite that she still made it through every round. But because they were taking so long to get back to everyone she lost faith in the company and withdrew herself from consideration. Apparently it wasn't long after that that everyone else who had applied was told they wouldn't be making it and we got Haruka, and Snuffy told everyone that she was rejected instead of admitting that she took herself out.
>>105660728That theory would hold some weight if she wasn't the one that said she was rejected the same day as the rest.
>>105660709I mean assuming VShojo had actual and was paying their talents on time.It was a good way to established slowly talents, I think the approach you say and one that GEEGA also said it's just really treating them as they do for the other talents. It eventually could pay off.You don't really need to, you can play with the concepts. Instead of individual merch, have group merch of them. Be basically their B team, until they become their new A team. Problem is that requieres real management and for VShojo to not be so screwed up with the money.
>>105660722>As her indentured manservant Aethel just follows orders.No what happened was that Aethel was basically knocked out of commission for like a year thanks to his mouth problems. Before that he usually helped push Nyan towards overcoming her social anxiety like with the irl streams.It wouldn't surprise me if he helped push Nyan towards reconnecting with Mouse and some other xshojo girls after VShojo died.
>>105660709Eh I think it could have worked if they had just established those moneymaking ventures from the start. Owning their own merch production, etc. The bigger ones would be able to subsidize the smaller ones. Nova was a bad idea specifically because they were already in a bad position, but Nova in a vacuum was the one part of the company that worked as intended and was profitable. If they hadn't already dug themselves into a 20 foot ditch it would've been great.
>>105660728>the auditions were just a cover to get her to join without having to pressure her by asking directlythis shit makes no sense. why not just ask her directly like vei?
>>105660728That theory is not really just Snuffy, is basically everyone, people like Bao, Haruka, Lily or people that would eventually be famous like Camila, Giri, etc. They probably used it for investors too for that matter, they just didn't have an actual plan for whom to hire or what to do with it, and hiring an unknown talent was probably the further than what people expected. They definitely didn't care that it would backfire because they gained 11 million and had Kson and Nazuna in the backlog. So they were fine with sacrificing the poor bastard who would sign on, that being Haruka.
>>105660771His mouth problems were because he talked back.
>>105660709yeah, never made sense to me eitherthey had basically no benefit in growing an unknown ip they don't own it's a much bigger gamble with no real reward for the company vs just hiring well known talent
>>105660750Anon Snuffy herself said that she withdrew and told everyone she was rejected. There's posts about it and everything when it happened. >>102790036>>105660800Snuffy seemed hesitant to join. My guess is it was part of a plan to make her feel like she'd earned her way in so she didn't feel like a nepohire.
>>105660816bro claims he's a lord yet he's getting controlled like a dog...
>>105660827the nepohire accusations only started after botched auditions
>>105660800Because VShojo was run by retards.They should have asked Haruka and Snuffy to join directly at the time instead of playing an audition game. Because of this they missed out on Snuffy and the whole audition mess is a part of why Haruka is the way she is today.
>>105660800maybe not giving the impression they wanted her they thought they could have secured a better deal
>>105660852it's sad haruka got so disillusioned with streaming, her vshojo debut video was one of the funniest and most clever piece of content ever
>>105660890A consistent Haruka is one of many things that VShojo took from us.I will never forgive them for this.
>>105660812>Kson and NazunaI'm pretty sure that's what killed the auditions.Feb21st-Auditions move to 3rd stage and those still in are emailed saying there would be an interview within the monthFeb24th-Rushia firedMarch-Gunrun meets Kson in JapanLate March-VShojo emails the auditionees saying they need an extra month1 month later-They tell the auditionees there will be no interview and offer 500 dollars to 'help with their future activities'1 month later-VShojo announce Kagura Nana is working on something for them (Naz model)1 month after that- Kson and Nazuna are announced at AX.I think it comes back to what Vei said about managements weird obsession with hololive. They genuinely thought they could just add 2 ex-holos and and it would be over for them.TLDR-Vshojo management retarded.
what if your oshi was exposed as a rape pest?
At least it can't get any worse.
HENYA JUST GAVE BIRTH TO A HAND
>>105660827>plan to make her feel like she'd earned her way in so she didn't feel like a nepohire.>tell her it's fine to apply past the deadline>tell her she doesn't need to submit a videosome plan
>>105661104She did have to submit a video, she just said it wasn't very good because of her illness. She was suspicious over the fact she kept making it through rounds with her lackluster performance though so yeah it wasn't very good lol
>>105661122The second round was just a questionnaire and the third didn't even happen.There would have to be something incredibly wrong for her to not at least make it that far.
>>105661006All xshojos raped me
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
>>105661316you killed the thread, good job geegosling.
When people do these game jam type events with their community, they pay the people that enter for their work? They surely aren't just manipulating their parasocial audience into doing free promotional work for nothing.
>>105661909I hope all the people that were saying she was going to graduate if her merch didn't do well enough at this event feel dumb now.
>>105661909I kinda thought she would burn out faster with doing her own merch stuff, but it seems like its actually really helping her mental health
>>105662273I think Mata isn't actually that greedy she just genuinely likes selling merchLike she would unironically be a merchant if she was born in the middle ages
>>105660103Most loved is either Aethel or Connor, Aethel is well liked and gets no spergs, but I think many Mouse anons really love Connor but there's just a few really loud spergs the entire time during collabs.
Silver doesn't look so tired on her 2nd dayMy well rested wife...
>>105660709I think by the point VShojo started doing gens, they'd already burned their rep with most of the big 4views. Sure none of them knew the full story of how shady VShojo was, but they'd seen enough signs and hints, experienced failing the first auditions, and saw the first three leave and that was enough to make them wary.
>>105662522The first three only left because they couldn’t handle that Mouse was better than them at everything. VShojo had nothing to do with it
>>105662574nice fan fiction, lil bud
mans replying to his own bait because it's so stupid that no one is biting
Saii is currently using her British accent.https://www.twitch.tv/saiiren
>>105662879
>>105662982amnesia anon, this is a poal comments section after you got called out for trying to samefag in the comments with the id
>>105663222and here's the samefag with his classic projection lmao.
>>105662982You clocked him good, he's trying to deflect it on his ghost again kek
>>105662982You clocked him bad, he's not trying to deflect it on his ghost again jej
why did she do it bros
everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
>>105663476I agree with you
>>105663476incorrect
>>105663504 (me)i wrote this
Froot when she sees my Deku cosplay
Did Henya talk to Silver at TwitchCon?
I see nagi's broken out the cat ears for stray
>>105660709That is essentially the big problem with talent management as a business:- It is profitable when your client is already popular- It offers most value to a client who is not popular and needs the resources you invest.I think the whole Nepo-bullshit thing could have easily been avoided by being transparent about why VShojo's business model mainly works for established talents right now.The JP CEO did say that fairly clearly in Japanese (during the interviews kson did with him), where he was fairly upfront that currently they need talents that make them a profit. While the goal is to eventually be able to support all VTubers in some way, the first step is to financially grow to a point where that becomes a possibility.. Something like this should have been said by the US VShojo leaders. People could have seen some sort of logic in it. Likely, their inability to express their plan is another sign for their incompetence, I guess.
>>105663297okay samefag
>>105663935
>>105663935>>105664569sex
>>105664289I don’t know who that is
Tbf to the NOVAs, loutlot did mention that the JP branch was in the black. Probably thanks to Henya and kson and maybe because their cashflow wasn't mismanaged to shit unlike the main branch.
>>105664714meant for >>105664499
>>105664692and there's the schizo melty
>>105664289nobody knowsSilver was doing her meet and greet and then went around con filming for her vlogI don't think she bumped into anybody
>>105664499they had some of the biggest en vtubers they should have been profitable
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>>105664820nta but having biggest en vtuber will not save the org from collapsing when you dont know how to manage money
>>105664820I was talking more about the general concept related to the nepohiring thing.Why VShojo failed is something that has a lot more reasons than just the inherent challenges with the business model. Because they indeed have the most successful talents. One big failure was that they failed to become a decent merch company that was fast, reliable and trusted, they were the opposite. And that seems to only be the tip of the iceberg of failures and negligence.
>>105664977>One big failureTwo, actually, second one is "your success is our success" and guilt tripping.
>>105661937No, you're the one who should feel dumb. Your streamer's new schedule is one stream a week so she can tour the country selling merch, and you're all okay with that for some reason.
>Michi gone>Geega goneFroot please, I'm dying here
>>105665364I'm sorry, anon, but she's busy with my butthole hole
>>105660360Geega larps as business savvy but she would be worse than GunRun
>>105660355content creators have no friends
>>105660349because they wanted to be like hololive but FREEDOM
>>105665850What is a friend?
>>105665850True
>>105665850no only mouse seems to have forgotten what that word means
>>105665850you sound like a sociopath
>>105660360She specifically said she wouldn't form an org.She said she could offer consulting. She said literally the opposite of what you think she said.
>>105666188he's probably a content creator
Froot pls gib me sucky sucky pls :<
>>105665850they have horny losers
She's drowning
>>105666858in cum
>>105666858o7
I've been watching older clips of Mouse.I hate where we are now.Mouse is better in some ways but over the last 5 years Mouse has gradually started to not talk about parts of herself to the point where it feels like every month there is a new thing retconned or she avoids talking about.Mouse doesn't even feel like Mouse anymore she has sanitized the things she talks about when it come to herself.
>>105666987You got it backwards. She faked being lewd in the past for money and what we see now is her actual self
>>105666987Blame Connor, it started after the never have I ever stream where Mouse told us she'd had phone sex before.Connor was not happy she was talking about stuff like that and told her off for it.She started to stop then.
>>105667014She had told many of the stories and her preferences and a opinions about lewd things for years and remained consistent.It is much more likely she's just hiding all that now.Sure she may have talked about it more to get clips but non of it was lies.The truth is somewhere in between but Mouse feel a little hollow now.
>>105666987That's somewhat similar to my hololive experience. I joined because I liked the carefree atmosphere with little taboos, but it got more and more sanitized. (Generally tend to like content that is a bit rebellious or has an edge to it)For better or worse, there are more eyes on them, and thus they need to be more clean. It comes naturally with getting more popular and given that more people are watching her than before, it is likely the correct thing for them to do.
whoooooo caresssss
>>105667028He's the worst influence but gets a pass because he bikes for charity and buys her shit. He's honestly the closest thing to a man living on easy mode I can think of as well. Got rich and famous for having a British accent with a deep voice. And of course what else does he do with that influence but virtue signal. Fucking faggot.
>>105667126>Generally tend to like content that is a bit rebellious or has an edge to itWhat a badass. You’re also a reddit mod because you like to live dangerous
>>105667142omg my hecking mouserino not saying poosy every 5 seconds, she is hollow now, i'm gooning rn and i'm sad
>>105667126If you are trying to sell out sure, but there is no other good reason.People loved Mouse for who she was back then and that would not have changed.The number of people who actually watch her streams has not changed since she was more open.
>>105667169reddit mods are jobless shut-ins with god complex, what are you talking about?
>>105667182watch streams and not what is being talked about.
>>105667182Its not even about gooning, Mouse used to be more open now she is more distant.
Why this guy keep complaining about Mouse every thread? You could just stop watching her and watch another vtuber that could fit your taste. There's plenty of them.
>>105667272I like the freaky chat and emotes
>>105667272now do this with irl kuro
>>105667262Yea just tune them out. He's looping the same shit for years but wcyd
>>105667262I've looked and have yet to find a good one that is like what old Mouse was.
>>105667326evil. i'm already reached the limit, so someone could do it.
>>105667352>Everyone I disagree with is one anon
>>105667272
meanwhile...
>>105667352He's looping, they're looping, same difference. In my eyes they're inane, repetitive threadshitting
>>105667352I always find this really funny, because I have repeatedly said things here before and after a while a strange thing happens, other anons start using you're same words.tldr if you have an argument others agree with they will just copy you.
>>105667407Yes>>105662982
>>105667553
>>105667498Love my wolf wife
>>105667604Can you post stuff with bar nips out?
>>105666987>Mouse has gradually started to not talk about parts of herself to the point where it feels like every month there is a new thing retconned or she avoids talking about.You know most people don't tell the same story over and over it gets fucking old. But also Mouse overshares and some of those stories could lead to doxx and medical procedures are not the leading cause of ptsd episodes Mouse has had on stream and I won't spell it out any further. The world sucks and with stuff like the recent Twitchcon episode try to think with reason a little bit instead of- >WHY PINK RAT NO TELL FROSTING IN EYE STORY A THIRD TIME?It's probably the same reason she won't tell us exactly when she's getting medical procedures done and tried to keep the date of her moving to her current house secret. She's gotten smarter about shit and more careful. You're thinking like an autist and it shows with you throwing in the word retcon for her simply not telling personal stories.
it's all connor's fault
>>105666987>>105667662least obsessed mousefags
>>105667604sex
>>105667634shhh
>>105667662Anon its not about particular stories and I'm not talking about stuff that could doxx her, Mouse has outright stopped talking about any of her preference opinions or stories with that kind of stuff.Like it or not she got lots of viewers who were used to her being fairly open about lewd things.now she is completely closed off, that stuff humanized her, it was funny and unhinged and part of her charm.
Unironically kill all mousefags. If you see anyone in mouse merch, listening to mouse music, watching mouse videos or streams, kill them on sight.
>>105667662How does Mouse saying she likes Futa put her at risk of doxx?
>>105667839She has more viewers that are used to her being closed off
>>105667883stop looping you bloody benchod Alhamdulillah
>>105667247It is partly about gooning to me, I liked when Mouse liked her own nsfw, it was hotter knowing she was into it.
"remember when mouse said she...">press [-]>thread improved
>>105667901Yes, fags and unhinged leftyniggers from Hasan who clutch their pearls
>>105667951this... It's always one dude, just ignore him or direct him to vod channels
>>105667901Mouse had just as many viewers in 2021 when she was much more open.
>>105667977LSF is three tabs down the road.
>>105667977You lost the demographic war
>>105667221MORE SUCKLING
thought about Silver's tired eyes and my cock got hard again
>>105668004https://www.youtube.com/c/ironmousevods
>>105668011No I think I'll stay, Hasan is a nigger and Mouse should stay far away>>105668020You really think so?The fight hasnt even started
>>105668004at least post mouse lewds while you complain
>>105668069sure LSF anon.
reminder to kill yourself black jack
>>105668090You seem to know a lot about LSF>>105668091
Lol of course there is someone so autistic that they dont understand that people change over the course of years
>>105668004she had more viewers actually
>>105668110not even the same anons.
>>105668086
>>105668110I mean you keep bringing your fleshstreamer here must be LSF
>>105667604where is this from
>>105668116exactly.
>>105668126Yeah by the end of 2021 she did.
>>105668126she had 4k and 7k tops i checked. Now go watch vods and stop annoying us with nostalgia
>>105668069The fact that Mouse doesn't do the shit you're asking for is proof enough. You've lost.
>>105668146nice. carry on then
send all mousefags to Mouschwitz
>>105668161If Connor spontaneously combusted and stopped bringing these fags around Mouse there would be no issue
there is really no mousefags here all of them left to 8 long ago.
>>105668197You didn't check very well.she averaged 6.8k for the whole year and had many streams at 9-10k by the end off the year.
>>105662382thats because i decided to let her rest by doing slow sensual fucking the entire night, with of course plenty of tit play because who wouldnt......well other than those five idiots.
>>105664782i hope we hear stories about the rest of the girls and silver interacting soon if not see it on a stream today.
>>105668197If you look at the second half of 2021average 7.6k peak 24k
>>105668328>he fell for the grift
>>105668045>your not constantly throbbing thinking of cozy wolf.PATHETIC
>>105668377cringe
ironmouse should be ashamed of herself
>>105668425yes falling for the grift is very cringe
>>105668467I was talking about your post, incel kun
Froot live
>>105668484cringe post
>>105665364anon...
MY LITCH WIFE IS LIVE
Concern troll bait works evertime
>>105668376>Active days 163 in 6 months>April to September this year 119 active days in 6 monthsGrim
>>105668526yours is, yes
Sloppers do something with this please
>>105668535>litchfake fan
>>105668627i was talking about your post, amnesia schizo
Froot ...............
Froot live?!
>>105668662not your boogeyman but keep seething, amnesia schizo, I dont care.
>>105668647you go to grok dot com, click imagine and do it yourself
>>105668647just use grok bruh, its free and it doesnt require to have a science degree.
>>105668702keep seething, deflecting and replying actual amnesia schizo because you do indeed care
>>105668647
>>105668802>so mindbroken he's talking about himself in third persontoday is the day that ends in y
>>105668802>>105668831Get a room, you fags
>>105668831That's his usual song and dance, report and ignore.
Hotaru is watching the Mouse clip where she talks about her A chatter told her
>>105668826mmm sloppa
>>105668831cringe
>>105668856She barely says anything about her
>>105668874meant for>>105668802
i think you all need to see this https://x.com/Saruei_/status/1979676201020199103
>>105668856>>105668878The novas really like the rat I still remeber when she barely mentioned sometime back and Peke got really excited
>>105668826way to ruin a boner, you slick bastard
>>105668915You're right I needed that
>>105668890i was talking about your post, amnesia schizo
>>105668915Nice but tabs
>>105668828
>>105668943mindbroken parrot kek
>>105668915how much is she paying this cosplayer to larp as saru?
>>105668998why do you think it's not her?
>>105668915No she's an ugly whore
>>105668989JFC
>>105668998It's so funny that people fall for it. Anyone who watched her pre-vtuber immediately knows that's not her due to lack of tattoos
>>105669031Why are you so jelly, sister?
>>105668994meant for>>105668702
https://files.catbox.moe/y5osi8.jpgI'm not sure if this one would have been allowed to be posted directly here or not so I catboxed it just in case.
>>105669052Nigga, have you heard of photosphop?
>>105669052>lil bro doesn't know about concealers
>Froot wants to beat up DekuIs Froot S?
>>105668994meant for>>105669080
>>105669150Why do you think we make all the pegging jokes?
>>105669098>>105669116Absolute cope. She showed off the tats for years, there's no reason to cover them now.She's hiring a model to stand in and you morons lap it up. Hilarious honestly
>>105667262Mouse went from being a lewd degenerate who called who was happy to call herself that to being one of the most prudish vtubers when it comes to ironmouse the character.Is it really a surprise that there are people who are a little upset at the drastic change.
>>105669208There are also inconsistencies between the different cosplay pics and you can compare pictures from her flesh streamer days and it doesn’t add up
>>105669214I mean her dad watches her, and she became a big brand.
>>105669208>Hilarious honestlyYour coping is indeed hilarious.
>>105669283He watched her back then too.
>>105669158meant for>>105668994
>>105669211respect to grok for giving these tits the justice that they deserve
Zen live
>>105669084
>>105668994meant for>>105669312
>>105669161Ok maybe it was a stupid question.
so this is how it works
>>105669214My point stands. If you don't like it, go watch another vtuber. no one's forcing you. Stop shouting into the void and be the change you want to see.
>>105669426Finally, someone with a working brain itt. Thank you.
>>105669378meant for>>105669378
>>105669372Why would you do that.If you were going to anime my image you could have done something nice with it.
tired Silver handjob in a hotel room after walking around the con all day!
>>105669515
froot and viper cosplay soon
>>105669285Sure bro, its not like you make no sense whatsoever and those pictures of her literally covered in tattoos arent easy to find.Yep, I lost.
>>105669515*animate
>Vshojo denied froot from posting a cosply of hoshomarin from holo because it would be problematic to the vshojo image
gen anoncan you do something with this pic?
What was Froot saying about the Marine cosplay and Vshojo? My game got loud for a second right as she said it
>>105669613Keep it real and make her steal money
>>105669426If Mel stopped doing nsfw streams do you think her viewers would just leave?
>>105669589Fucking gunrun and MTD ruining everything
>>105669636shoo shoo you
>>105669613>>105668718
>>105669657thanks
>>105669616She wanted to do a Marine cosplay and bought the stuff for itAsked Vshojo if it's fineThey said it' might not be a good idea so she didn't do it
>>105669701damnI know in retrospect we now know that they had that weird obsession with Holo, but still
so this guy is definitely married to Zentreya who she's making references to and is allowed to tag her as his wife on socials and in her discord?
>>105668826perfection
>>105669637Yes, some viewers would leave if there were no Fansly streams. I don't understand your argument, what are you trying to say?
Silver brosss she so cute i cant with her https://x.com/emucchi_/status/1979634892003782835
>>105668915
MEL MENTIONED
>>105669643kek
>>105669643The gen where he runs away with bags of money is the best one.
>>105669845yeah my wife is cuteshe seems much less tired in that pic
>>105669637I would sure hope so if that is what they watched her for instead of continuing to watch her and be a miserable cunt on a Mongolian basketweave forum daily whining like a little child about missing old Mel.
>>105669845Looks Like a Robot that hasn’t figured out how to act human yet
>>105668826https://youtu.be/oNNn3DV8XV0?t=4279
Silver looks like a trans woman
https://x.com/yoclesh/status/1979931386636038358Yocci met Numi and Michi
Holy BOOBS cotton
>>105669946>>105669981mmm delicious seethe
>>105669737They probably didn't want to promote another brand, which is honestly not uncommon.The reason it's dumb is because it conflicts with talent freedom.
>>105660000Wasted get
>>105670024it is what it is
>>105670007I've heard she did a breast reduction but after this tweet I'm not sure if that's the truth.
>>105670007Sadly, they're now fake tits
going thru my vshojo folder, and this image is one of many that has a completely different vibe nowadays
>>105669845Does she have a tan?
>>105670060I don't know if I ever posted these oneshttps://files.catbox.moe/2t83fd.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/my656n.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/kwhvcg.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/b6jsev.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/zhn9er.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/1h9xbd.jpg
Pink guy getting a head pats from silverhttps://x.com/The_Creator589/status/1979696618875273554
>>105669211God her model is so sexo but goddamn why'd she have to be so boring
>>105669748Seems like it and her collaborators often respond to him when they are co-streaming.
>>105669946but that makes her so cuteyou could take Silver on a date to McDonalds and she'd be excited
>>105670164oh, I remember him
>>105670127probably not fake just push-up bra putting in a lot of work
>>105670164is that actual OG pink guy?also I need to be glued to Silver's milkers
>>105670294no
>>105670208Most sexo woman are boring, thats why they let their body on in this case model do the talking
>>105670294of course not, it's the cosplayer
>>105670149I think it might be lightingshe looks very pale in other pics
oof Anny wanted a Mouse and Connor relationship and ended up just being one sided.
>>105671002kill yourself threadshitting schizo
>>105671002????
>>105671002uhh... tabs?
>>105671002anon said, completely unprompted and in the wrong thread
>>105669866By?
>>105670153Now animate them
>>105671002Nothing a tea date with Connor can't fix.
Day 10...
>>105669030tits size is not consistent
>>105671284Someone said "hey that Jew just stole my money" on stream
>>105671002Mouse should also realize that her feeling for Connor are one sided and it will hurt less to move on, just like Anny realized it was better to move on.
>>105671574who cares about feelings if their interaction is the perfect clips farm
>>105669003
I'm wearing my Geega shirt today :) I can’t go on like this.
We are on page 10 someone bake
>>105671736Just be like the nyacolytes and create a tulpa of your oshi.
>>105671300https://files.catbox.moe/eidavb.mp4
>>105671650What or who am I looking at
>>105671802ksons fat ass
>>105671834Far too thin to be kson.
>>105671924neck yourself phasechimp
at least another 3 hours of froot as she's just realised the deku game has drops
IM is faking it
>>105671965killing myself
>>105671787Are you animating locally or from another site? No way you managed to get that from Grok.
>>105672032>>105672032>>105672032MOVE
>>105672027That was locally from Frampack, its not as good as grok from what I've seen but it has not restrictions.
