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>>105661861100k by holos in 20251. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01)2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01)3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01)4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01)5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01)6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01)7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01)8. 4th gen 3Dlive (hololive/05-01)9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01)10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01)11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01)12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01)13. HoloX anniversary 3DLive (hololive/19-01)14. Sakamata Chloe graduation 3DLive (Chloe/26-01)15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02)16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03)17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03)18. Sakura Miko Bday 3DLive (Miko/05-03)19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03)20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03)21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03)22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03)23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03)24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03)25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04)26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04)27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04)28. Otonose Kanade Bday 3D Live (Kanade/20-04)29. Amane Kanata Bday 3D Live (Kanata/22-04)30. Murasaki Shion Graduation 3D Live (Shion/26-04)31. Nanashi Mumei Graduation (Mumei/28-04)32. Gawr Gura Graduation (Gura/01-05)33. Which hololive member loves Subaru the most? (Marine/01-05)34. Spring Hololive Member Counseling Session(Subaru/06-05)35. Animal Tower Battle tournament (Lui/18-05)36. Miko Switch 2 lottery (Miko/03-06)37. Tsunomaki Watame Bday 3DLive (Watame/06-06)38. Todoroki Hajime Bday 3DLive (Hajime/07-06)39. Takane Lui Bday 3DLive (Lui/11-06)40. Sakura Miko Switch 2 lottery 4 (Miko/17-06)41. Kazama Iroha Bday 3DLive (Iroha/18-06)42. Sakura Miko Switch 2 GET announcement (Miko/22-06)43. AZKi Bday 3DLive (AZKi/01-07)44. Oozora Subaru Bday event (Subaru/02-07)45. Pekomama holomem totsumatchi (Pekora/16-07)46. Houshou Marine Bday 3DLive (Marine/30-07)47. Guess which holomem the present is from? (Miko/03-08)48. Best loser Smash tournament (Miko/06-08)49. Usada Pekora 6th Anniversary 3D Live (Pekora/31-08)50. Nakiri Ayame 7th Anniversary 3D Live (Ayame/03-09)51. Shishiro Botan Bday 3DLive (Botan/08-09)52. PekoLamy watermelon exploding offcollab (Pekora/15-09)53. Shirakami Fubuki Bday 3DLive (Fubuki/05-10)# of 100k streams last year: 58
GRIM thread
>>105661861what are these tits
>>105661861Recent Clip Numbers>>105624870>>105624881>>105624977
>>105661861* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY * >46,451: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>38,634: Miko (Hololive)>33,627: Lauren (Nijisanji)>30,038: Subaru (Hololive)>28,959: Subaru (Hololive)>28,550: Kanae (Nijisanji)>27,614: Botan (Hololive)>27,042: Botan (Hololive)>23,546: Korone (Hololive)>21,818: Pekora (Hololive)>19,655: Botan (Hololive)>17,123: Watame (Hololive)>15,869: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>15,497: Sendo (VSPO)>14,636: Albio (Nijisanji)>14,493: Bijou (Hololive)>14,270: Suisei (Hololive)>14,225: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>13,729: Lize (Nijisanji)>12,251: Mimi (VSPO)>12,026: Bijou (Hololive)>11,956: Kanae (Indie)>11,268: Lamy (Hololive)>11,212: Furen (Nijisanji)>11,131: Gigi (Hololive)>10,528: Aki (Hololive)>10,492: Kagami (Nijisanji)
this one came first
Is koseki the bijou of biboo
>>105661938OCT 2025 GOLD>1) 92,847: Korone (hololive) birthday collab stream [18]>2) 68,374: Suisei (hololive) Important Announcement + new miComet outfit reveals [24]>3) 69,410: Miko (hololive) FubuMio vs miComet clubhouse 51 [23]>4) 49,837: Miko (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 Sakurasaki HS Year 2 [25]>5) 105,025: Fubuki (hololive) 3DLIVE Birthday [32]>6) 40,093: Marine (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 AHOY Academy Year 3 [19]>7) 34,747: Pekora (hololive) Marika DX8 [17]>8) 52,995: Subaru (Hololive)>9) 95,687: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>10) 55,693: Luna (Hololive)>11) 91,899: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>12) 33,396: Miko (Hololive)>13) 53,372: Miko (Hololive)>14) 43,646: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>15) 72,432: Pekora (Hololive)>16) 50,072: Subaru (Hololive)>17) 65,244: Miko (Hololive)>18) 46,451: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)> PER COMPANY14x: Hololive6x: Nijisanji> PER STREAMER5x: Miko3x: Kuzuha2x: Pekora, Subaru1x: Korone, Suisei, Fubuki, Marine, Luna, Nijisanji
I missed Gigi’s birthday. What was the ccv on it?
>>105661964Lower than Mori's and that's all that matters.
>>105661963OCT 2025 SILVER>1) 45,197: Miko (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 Sakurasaki HS Year 2>2) 30,541: Lauren (nijisanji) GTA5 MADTOWN>3) 47,275: Koyori (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 BBQ>4) 49,718: Subaru (hololive) Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 finale>5) 59,159: Ren Kisaragi (VSPO) VSPO pop quiz>6) 28,030: Miko (hololive) Oshaberi king>7) 28,578: Ririka (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 GENKAIJO HS Year 2>8) 45,257: Miko (Hololive)>9) 32,991: Gwelu (Nijisanji)>10) 38,032: Lauren (Nijisanji)>11) 45,458: Miko (Hololive)>12) 29,548: Lauren (Nijisanji)>13) 47,563: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>14) 37,704: Miko (Hololive)>15) 41,741: Miko (Hololive)>16) 43,590: Chiroru (Indie) >17) 36,226: Pekora (Hololive)>18) 38,634: Miko (Hololive) > PER COMPANY11x: hololive5x: nijisanji1x: VSPO1x: Indie7x: Miko1x: Lauren, Koyori, Subaru, Ren Kisaragi, Ririka, Gwelu, Lauren, Kuzuha, Chiroru, Pekora
The Irys realizing Cecilia immergreen has green in her name is making the rounds
>>105661964https://www.vstats.jp/leaderboard/today
>>105661964Mogged by the Face of EN
>>105661975Grim
>>10566196422k
>>105661978OCT 2025 BRONZE>1) 38,576: Lauren (nijisanji) GTA5 MADTOWN>2) 29,494: Kanae (nijisanji) MADTOWN #2>3) 44,212: Marine (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 AHOY Academy Year 2>4) 34,559: Subaru (hololive) Zatsudan>5) 41,446: Miko (hololive) Horseracing>6) 23,851: Gwelu (nijisanji) collab>7) 26,180: Moka (VSPO) Street Fighter League: PRO-JP 2025>8) 42,460: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>9) 31,467: Hololive English (Hololive)>10) 27,644: Kanae (Nijisanji)>11) 33,464: Kanae (Nijisanji)>12) 29,099: Koyori (Hololive)>13) 32,526: Fubuki (Hololive)>14) 34,835: Pekora (Hololive) >15) 35,257: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>16) 37,355: Miko (Hololive)>17) 35,019: Marine (Hololive)>18) 33,627: Lauren (Nijisanji)> PER COMPANY8x: nijisanji8x: hololive1x: VSPO> PER STREAMER3x: Kanae2x: Kuzuha, Miko, Marine, Lauren1x: Subaru, Gwelu, Moka, Hololive English, Koyori, Fubuki, Pekora
>>105661975That’s fair. Mori’s a seasoned vet with a very large reach and arguably the most mainstream vtuber in the world right now. It’d be hard to beat her, but I’m hoping Gigi cracked 10k at least.
>>105661986>>105661999Thanks. That’s still pretty good numbers in my eyes.
what's the deal with this guy?
>>105662002Well gigi had the entire en branch holding her up today so I would hope she broke 10k at the very least
jwu, how did mori reach that number?
>>105662086people just love hololive, nothing more to it
>>105662044biggest literalwho in niji, i have never heard /nijien/ talk about him, or sisters on twitter, or r/kurosanji. in fact i have no idea what he's like, i don't think he's part of elira's nepotism clique, i don't think he's had any shipshe combines the Ina "oh yeah she exists" effect with being a floprunt
>>105662044His entire schtick is being horny for his co-workers on Twitter
>>105662044Ver is discount Hex, who himself is discount VoxYou'd think that with Hex gone and Vox going off the deep end he'd get some of their fans on the rebound, but apparently not
>>105662086People like watching a cute girl play cool games more than some lame rp shit, who knew
>>105662001OCT 2025 HIGHLANDER>1) 92,847: Korone (hololive) birthday collab stream>2) 68,374: Suisei (hololive) Important Announcement + new miComet outfit reveals>3) 69,410: Miko (hololive) FubuMio vs miComet clubhouse 51>4) 49,718: Subaru (hololive) Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 finale [S]>5) 105,025: Fubuki (hololive) 3DLIVE Birthday>6) 40,093: Marine (hololive) Hololive Koushien 2025 AHOY Academy Year 3>7) 34,747: Pekora (hololive) Marika DX8>8) 42,460: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>9) 32,991: Gwelu (Nijisanji)>10) 55,693: Luna (Hololive)>11) 33,464: Kanae (Nijisanji)>12) 29,548: Lauren (Nijisanji)>13) 31,950: Iroha (Hololive)>14) 23,356: Patra (Indie)>15) 20,049: Chiroru (Indie)>16) 18,965: AZKi (Hololive) >17) 15,588: Ex Albio (Nijisanji)>18) 46,451: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)> PER COMPANY10x: Hololive6x: Nijisanji 2x: Indie
>>105662086Tapped into Clio's algo.
>>105662108no raid and no overlap?just mori in weekend and dmc buff?
>>105662156OCT 2025 holoID>1) 3,054: Zeta (Clover Pits)>2) 1,507: Reine (CloverPit)>3) 7,990: Kaela (Easy Delivery Co.)>4) 2,645: Iofi (Honkai Star Rail)>5) 1,150: Risu (Whisper of the House)>6) 6,616: Kaela (Easy Delivery Co.)>7) 3,006: Reine (No Sleep For Kaname Date)>8) 10,403: Ollie>9) 2,825: Ollie>10) 5,233: Risu>11) 4,034: Kaela>12) 4,561: Zeta>13) 16,235: Ollie>14) 5,279: Kaela>15) 3,332: Ollie >16) 3,072: Ollie>17) 8,230: Kaela>18) 7,352: Kaela> PER STREAMER6x: Kaela5x: Ollie2x: Reine, Risu, Zeta1x: Iofi
>>105662172OCT 2025 Floor tally>1) 10,480: Fuwa (nijisanji) nijiMUFG [18]>2) 11,103: Ina (hololive) Inacademy: Drawing [24]>3) 10,700: Nene (hololive) TCG Card Shop Simulator [23]>4) 10,956: Kagami (nijisanji) Pokemon Trading Card Game Pocket [25]>5) 10,377: Cammy (nijisanji) Niji mahjong L league coach room [32]>6) 11,019: Bae (hololive) Stellar Blade [19]>7) 10,124: Luna (hololive) MonHun Wilds [17]>8) 10,220: Koyori (Hololive)>9) 10,070: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>10) 10,129: Ina (Hololive)>11) 10,169: Ars (Nijisanji)>12) 10,554: Ririca (Indie)>13) 10,025: Laplus (Hololive)>14) 10,094: Hinano (VSPO)>15) 11,226: Watame (Hololive) >16) 11,028: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>17) 10,422: Mio (Hololive) >18) 10,492: Kagami (Nijisanji)> PER COMPANY7x: nijisanji9x: hololive1x: Indie1x: VSPO
i'll never forgive her
mori shadowverse vs ggthis is interesting
will you enter if your oshi pussy is like this
>>105662233GREMREAPER SUPREMACY
>>105662268My oshi is gg so yes, this looks normal
New Drama brewingChibidokii meet&greet cut short at TwitchCon by staff claiming due voice problem which straight up lie
>>105662287i lose a braincell watching cc vs kiaragreamreaper shadowverse can fix me
first time watching calliope.she doesnt shut the fuck up.do you guys really enjoy this?genuine question, no offence intended.
If I'm doing the trick right, GG birthday 2025 has 30 limited merch sets left
>>105662341I watch gigi, so watching mori is a walk in the park
>>105662350She still hasn't sold out? How many hours has it been so far
So apparently Novel Horizons is just rebranded MSM Talent, Geega is suing a black corpo while working for a black corpo lmao
>>105662341Nobody watch mori until she fix her tranny voice
>>105662341Tbf she's in a more energetic mood than usual
>>105662341shes just too excited today with 30k people watching her
>>105662405NIJISEETHE
>>105662431Cute excited morp
>>105662470The fuck are you even talking about?
30k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>105662490Lmao, its some really fucking weird EXTREAMLY ESL mori anti who used to post in global. He makes 0 sense when he talks. He always always brings up trannys and connor. Also always says "(holomem) hate mori". always used "hate" not "hates"
>>105662526DOOOOOOORRRRRRRYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAA
>>105662341No real human beings are watching her.
>>105662701duh, deadbeats are skeletons
>>105662701I dunno, those 9.4k likes look real to me
>>105662701>schizo is mad that she did better than gigiThis board is full of shitposters
>>10566235015 limited sets left
>>105662742Yes bots
>>105662743You wish she will never be better than gigi
>>105663253this is obvious bait
>>105662206What the fuckThis isn't even California's bastard interpretation of tacos' fault bitch is in Canada
Worked called me in how was Gigi Birthday.
https://shimo3620.booth.pm/items/7557149
I don't like gigi
>>105664610Mating press
>>105666620twitch? yeah, there are people like cohhcarnage or northernlion who avoid drama, do their own thing and average 5-10k CCV and are wildly successful, they're just not the biggest streamers because the biggest ones are all grifters who peddle drama to some degree.
>>105661861pull my biboo trigger!
>>105666660My bad I didn't know that the studio had been bought by Koreanshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tango_Gameworks
How long till niji and holo EN collab?I think ERB is suisei of EN
>>105666529>doesn't betray his values for a paycheck,Asmon contradicts himself and his values all the time because he wants the views/money.One day he will say he agrees with Bernie Sanders and is pro-working class, just to appease his progressive audience, but the next day he'll say 85% of said working-class shouldn't be allowed to Vote, just to appease his Right-Wing audience.
>>105666742>How long till niji and holo EN collab?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>105666640Chinman started to talk about Luna out of nowhere and Suisei literally stuttered.It went on for a while and Suisei ended the topic asap, pretty awkward.
>>105666706CaseOh beats Asmon, XQC and Hasan in ccv and dude doesn't do drama. Just plays games with peak comedic reactions.
Does Bae still pretend to be terrified of horror games?
>>105666782but what did he say about luna? what topic they were on? IS he luna's fan or something?
>>105666786No one is scared it's not a scary game
>>105666785>fat loud guy = peakSaba pls go
>>105666782>>105666812he also talked about asmongold and emiru
>>105666382>The very examples mentioned are drowning in money and ethot pussy simply by being at the top of the totem. Why would a talented male content creator pass the chance to do soThe main reason is that the person values his anonymity for one (they don't want crazy people going after them or their families for instance). Another is that they are actually humble and lack selfishness and greed. If you're naturally humble why would you want a bunch of sycophants following you around? If you're married and/or believe in chastity (Christian for instance), why would you want to be "drowning in ethot pussy"? As for money, you don't have to be greedy to want to earn money, money is a means to an end, whether good or bad. And quite frankly it doesn't really matter what you look like as a man so having an good-looking (but not gay looking) anime avatar might actually be a boon rather than a hindrance.>>105666750I'm not sure about his relationship to Bernie Sanders, maybe he feels conflicted about him given how the guy sometimes acts decently and then at other times is just another Democrat bootlicker. But to say that he sells out his values all the time is just being dishonest. If he were like that then he'd be friends with Hasan and Twitch's moderation team instead of constantly shitting on them.
jwu, qdr on the suisei thing please
>>105666785CaseOh just randomly blew up after being mainly on TikTok. Just goes to show a lot of these top streamers get there by chance. CaseOh is a cool dude though.
toya and suisei talking about how much they hate pekora and love vox
The chainsaw guy literally just needs to extend his arms forward.
>>105666841Some sort of Collab with a niji dude.
>>105666742erb wishes she had as much charisma as suisei
>>105662206Dooby what the fuck
>>105666785He beat pekora too
>>105666843>he's just another algorithm gamba winner like PirateGriftware with his YT shortsGod it's all the same shit
How come bae isnt spooked
ALMOST 250k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGPr02vEJPM
>I'll protect you
>>105666864has something like this happened before? Cover just let her do that?
>>105665766It's funny that initial positive response to Tempus was pretty much entirely driven by Vesper presenting himself as le based ojisan loser nerd instead of some annoying twink zoomer femboy or sexpest like most of them but in the long run he was too close to holos and it was a problem, in fact he could get more holo collabs than others precisely because holos knew he shares their audience so it would likely be a faith of any similar homo. Any similar homo would also go menhera knowing his audience will always see him as a side-dish, something to watch when their real holo oshi isn't streaming and he will never be accepted as truly equal to holos, getting called a leech all the time and knowing there is truth to it would devastate any man with actual pride.
Anyone can stop him?
>>105666812Luna used to be a niji organ anon.
>>105666893Someone said this guy was with her on some nhk thing. So I guess
>>105666893Did you just hear of Suisei today?
They clearly intended this to be a stream where Bae is scared shitless of the horror game while CC laughs at her but this is just a dumb over the top action set piece simulator with horror monsters and it's not scary at all so it's actually just CC playing a normal video game with Bae doing slightly awkward commentary
>>105666890>Doesnt want to lieBased and cute desu
>>105666890>"i don't like X video game" is a final yab in JPfags minds
>>105666893holoJP has been doing collabs with nijiJP for years and suisei has been homocollabing for years. nothing about this is new.
just listened to gigi's song and read the description…. this is so sad.. and the song and the mv are both beautiful…. barely managed to hold back tears to be honest
>>105666843>Just goes to show a lot of these top streamers get there by chance.you can say that pretty much about any success story. Luck is like 90% of it
>>105666909I don't speak japanese, I know her but never watched jp contents outside of translated clips
>>105666729>it's an unfinished gameSources on this. TEW is a mess plot wise but the gameplay is pretty solid.
>>105666843This is how it's always happened. Even in the early days of Youtube, some of the big early day youtubers like Boogie2988, got big because of a few viral vids that other relatively large creators at that time gave them shout outs.
>>105666926ah okay then, so it's just the sisters acting up
>>105666910Should've play Little Nightmares 3 then, atleast that one has tension and jump scares, lots of unintentional comedyMy favourite bit of the Rara-Gigi LN3 playthrough, Gigi suddenly breaking the tension by jumping down and causing loud thudhttps://youtu.be/Ctsd2St9WhU?t=5h7m41s
>>105666904And? Did he allude to it or something?
CC wants Bae to sit on her face
>>105666890Cute su-chan chibi pfp
I miss fauna
>>105666841Just Suisei destroying Unicorns and Nijiseethers in one stream.
>>105666957That was the plan but they said something came up so they had to delay that and play a different game today, maybe perms bullshit as usual I guess
CC JP clip 300k doryaa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXS3PyEu4FA
>>105666910video games aren't scary.
>>105666981Watch Temu Fauna
>>105666981I've heard blaming her for those feelings is productive and inspiring
>>105666926It's funny despite this sisters still violently hate Suisei more than any holo.
>you doing good there ESL?
>>105666993Nah some are. It's just once you get scared, you get used to it quick
>>105666981
Welp this is kinda boring
>>105666910CC and Bae have no chemistry. Time to find another partner for Hakos and CC.
>>105667038(me)Bae should stick with Fuwamoco and JP chubas (Suba, Towa, Bancho)CC...maybe try partnering with Shiori or someone from ID.
how is this getting 10k desuway?
>>105666750I'm pretty sure Asmon was defending Hassan before it became really trendy to shit on hamas piker but in reality all of this big streamers act like a clique regardless of politics
Akirose completely destroys Arusan's dignity with baby play and dick talkhttps://youtu.be/OUHmeynr-Ac?si=o3__pFSQDVuKQvMd
>>105666993true>>105667011false
>>105667074Because despite the seething naplings ITT, CC and Bae is a very good duo.
>>105667073Hush Mori. CC is forever GG’s partner
>>105667074weekend so NA, EU and JP can watch. bae has a decent amount of jp fans and even CC's JP lessons have recently gotten decent numbers around this time.
>>105667074It's a funny game with funny girls
>>105667079>Oboretai
>>105667077Yes Asmon was on friendly terms with Hasan and low key cucked to him up until 2024. But when Asmon jumped on the Trump train in 2024, Asmon surpassed Hasan as the top political streamer. Then Hasan got jealous and started attacking Asmon so now they are mortal enemies.
Hello? Anyone?
>>105667222yes
>While it's true that Nyanners, Silvervale, and Veibae, all quit Vshojo, it seems like it's a good fit for many; >Coco, Rushia, Pikamee, they're all there now and look like they're going to stay for a while yet.I have to say: going down through memory lane and revisiting those crazy times, it’s absurd how every single potential competitor for Hololive crashed and burned and now there is Hololive at the top of the mountain and nothing to even pretend to give chase
>>105667222Hi
>>105667077Before 2024 that entire Austin clique were always collabing and hyping up each other what actually started the downfall weirldy enough was gta rp
pls considerlearn to drop hateinvest in a smilelove will comemaybe you will like it
>>105667222Dead boardDead thread
>>105667245The only hololive comp is Niji JP
kek fujos are retardedly funny
>>105667245God I fucking hate Pikamee
>>105667245>Nyanners, Silvervale, and Veibareminder that as they left they tried to warn people about the shitty contracts and behaviour, but vshojo defense force (literal paid shills on twitter and vt) harassed anyone who would point that out
Evil Within is one of the many japanese games that badly tried to pander to westerners huh
>>105667325Pikamee was a good girl and very family friendly
>>105667297If you take their daily live streaming numbers at face value they’re a competitor with the mid of the table Holos and they have two music acts>Chronoir>ROF-MAOthat are legit competitor with the top Holo girls with regards to music and JP events but that’s the extent of their competition. The other 180 channels in their roster would compete with HoloID at best, the homos at worst and their only purpose is to pad the revenue and prop up the big guys. Back in 2020 they were legit competitors, sometimes even ahead but now they live at the mercy of their top musical act
>>105667300they have no shame left do they
In terms of character models, Henya is a downgrade to Pikamee
>>105667366Family friendly enough to visit twitchcon
>>105667325she was pretty funny for a year or so.
>>105662314No one cares, twitch whore fleshy, barely a vtuber with a boyfriend, like 4 different versions of don’t care
>>105666785>fat guy moments screaming about how he's not that fatComedic... yeah.
>>105667337Kson didn’t help with her “cons: nothing” speech and also with her “if someone would offer me a better contract than VShojo I would take …. for OOOOONE MILLION DOLLARS!”
>>105667300The funny thing about involving a Holo in any other channel is that it clearly shows how different everything is in terms of fandom culture.Streams with Holos always have bigger like rates, bigger VOD views, bigger retention, click rate, everything, and this makes everything else look poor and shady in comparison.
bro wtf is youtube doingwhy is it red on the mouse hover
>>105662314lol
>>105667422Does your video saturation change too ? That happens to me
wtf happened, did the board go down? there was barely any activity for like 2 hours
>>105667389They still make the most money because they have 180 talents. Even if they all got 10-20k vods each that's way more overall vod views/ad rev than a company with only 88 talents (includes Holostars). And if each of the 180 talents sold half the merch that the 88 holo talents sell, they still selling more merch overall.
>>105667392The new model is so funny.
>>105667415lol yea sure, let me just copy this here>>104869412>WANNA SEE SOMETHING AMUSING?Kuzuha had a sponsored stream today. For obvious reasons it can't really be botted (the sponsor is Netflix, they understand about engagement and metrics) so Kuzuha ran "naked" with this one.Here are the metrics>peak: 9,514>avg: 8,178>likes: 3,485 (42.6% of the average)>chat participants: 1,542 (19% of average)>chat messages: 12,220 (190 chats per minute)>runtime: 1:04:08Compare with his stream yesterday>peak: 35,577>avg: 24,324>likes: 4,641 (19% of the average)>chat participants: 3,353 (13% of the average)>chat messages: 43,282 (153 chat per minute)>runtime: 4:41:24Kuzuha audience today was smaller but REALLY MORE ENGAGED in all metrics. Isn't it amazing!His audience likes Netflix shilling a lot more than his regular content (despite showing up in much smaller numbers) while his regular content has a predominantly silent, invisible and unwilling to engage in any form
>Your bias is showing, First off that's not true, they are all entertaining and VShojo can get away with pulling talent from companies like Holo because they actually have freedom of content.At some point a retrospective history of vtubing will be written and a big chapter will be about how GunRun obsession with Hololive plus his partnership with kson in their pursuit for “talent freedom” doomed the whole English speaking vtuber world outside of Hololive into chasing that white whale that killed all of them.
>>105667422fucking jeet's code
>>105667477>They still make the most money because they have 180 talents.Here is the thing: they should but they didn’t last Fiscal Year (against all odds). They kept more of it but Hololive outsold them despite the difference in size of their respective casts.
>>105667455noand I still cant see the fucking controls on bright videos 10/10 accessibility
>>105667473actual previous thread is this one >>105661862
>>105667477But that's the thing, Cover had a bigger sales revenue than Niji both in 2023 and in 2025, with three times the talents.The low level Nijis don't sell anything at all, it all depends on the whims of Kuzuha and his cronies, and without an EN branch to pick up the slack (if anything NijiEN is a net negative instead of a positive), they're somehow managing to lose in something as cold as revenue.
>>105667473you missed a thread >>105661862
>>105667489To be fair it's not like corpos with a "proper" business model succeed in EN either, the only stable one is Cuck Connect and they're stable at lmao0.6%
>>105667530just use mpv anon
>>105667422The like button now transforms into random shit depending on the type of channel you're watching
>>105667555Phase Connect doomed themselves by becoming a drama ridden shit group for some reason. Shame cause I like the corp name lol
>>105667525Cover surpassed them (barely) in 2025, but before that Niji was ahead every year. And this is just merch sales, the YT views also give Niji the edge. Kuzuha's Mad Town GTA stream from last week has more views than Marine and Pekora's 3D shows this year. That's giving them a lot of bank.
Who won today?
>>105667670>the YT views also give Niji the edgeYou cannot say this with a straight face.
>>105667533>The low level Nijis don't sell anything at alli don't think you realize how little money they put into merch, L2Ds and debuts for new livers. it's probably 10k usd or less. Even random 3 view shitters who end up getting a couple of whale fans will become profitable during the first year and after that it's nothing but pure profit. that is why they've kept pumping new gens all this time, because it is profitable and they essentially have a monopoly on the homo market.
>>105667633Pippa Connect basically exploited a market hole with the whole "chudtubing" trend which is why they were able to grow fast, but for that very same reason they've hit a cap and a bottleneck because a huge amount of people don't want anything to do with that. The fishnigger is trying so hard to expand into "idol culture" and it's just not working.But strictly speaking they've proven to be quite resilient to drama, in the sense that the actual fans aren't deterred by the constant drama, and I don't think it makes it outside of their bubble thanks to Fishnigger paying off all the drama channel. I think the vtuber drama subreddit didn't even post about the Clara thing once.
The zombie is just standing behind him.
>>105667726Wonder if anybody at Phase leaked if the company is at least not in the red.
>>105667710Brother, the world just saw how much Moist/Penguin0 made off of his Youtube ad rev throughout the years. That shit pays. And when you have 180 talents all giving your thousands (millions in Kuzuha's case) of views, you make more than the company with only 88 talents.
10K
Here's a good question. Hololive is interested in expanding onto Twitch but Twitch is currently imploding. How's Cover going to deal with this?
So you're telling me that a mediocre discount Resident Evil collab can get 10k ccv in this weekend slot and yet it will continue to be completely empty in the future unless CC is doing a collab with one of the girls in Japan?
>>105667726Every action taken in 2025 has been made to distance Pippa's influence from the company, the Invaders, the different appearances at cons and concerts, the new Saga gen, everything is to make a more "Holo-like" company.It has not worked, the new hires are Pippa orbiters, their events have abyssmal CCV, their polfag audience is unwilling to pay for anything besides the bare minimum (and even then). It's not a good thing where the CEO and the fans go in totally opposite ways.
>>105667806>Hololive is interested in expanding onto Twitchthey aren't
>>105667806Are they ? Do you think that cause of the Mori Collab and ERB ?
>>105667806If I have learned anything from watching Hololive, it's that Cover always deals with things in the most retarded way possible.
https://x.com/MelocoKyoran/status/1979114764308746540https://x.com/___yu_n0/status/197975898898951002110M VIEWS DORRRYAAAAAAAA
>>105667844>>105667847Wasn't there a statement from Yagoo recently where he said that the company is interested in expanding into Europe, pro-gaming and Twitch?
>>105667806Twitch is always "imploding", they've had controversies that would kill any other business non-stop for years now, their CEO is literally a caught-red-handed pedo coomer ffs. Amazon for some reason doesn't give a shit, and none of these subhuman grifters that stream there will ever leave because of their precious noombers and easy leeching methods.
>>105667806twitch is a non factor
>>105667880>Wasn't there a statement from Yagoo recently where he said that the company is interested in expanding into EuropeLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Twitch is still somehow better than kick. Man can you imagine a Holo streaming on kick, LMAO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S93vOnedPAw>8k waiting room 8 hours awaythis sponsored stream is going to hit 300k
>>105667857twitter views are meaningless
>>105667880Who cares about some quote he gave to some random article? Dunno why you put so much weight to mere words without anything backing them up in reality.
>>105667928Holos need their own personal platform.
>>105667847Not just them, but Towa and Laplus also stream on Twicth from time to time. Laplus went over to Twitch for a good 6 months or so back in 2023. Just to test out the waters, didn't do well so she came back to YT.
>>105667880>Wasn't there a statement from Yagoo recently where he said that the company is interested in expanding into Europelol, lmao
>>105667389if they didn't do the album lottery then they would be under holo by A LOT
>>105667777That's a career of over a decade with regular 1 million + vod views. Over a hundred shitters getting 10k vod views are not bringing anything.
>>105667955Well if it was just an idea that he arbitrarily voiced and they're not actually working towards that goal the whatever.>>105668008>>105667911Did I get meme'd?
>>105667880Same he said about Indonesia and look at where we are.
>>105667928>>105667964they don't need anything, why would they leave youtube
>>105667971damn jimmy is so popular she's being used for random ironic weebs shitposts
>>105666890I bring attention to Bae not liking Among UsJP brings attention to the Bae not liking Among UsI AM JAPANESE??私は今、日本人の男の子です
>>105668052Youtube takes a big cut and they're starting to become really oppressive with content moderation, especially with the whole global push for censorship of anything anime recently. What if Youtube decides that Holos like Laplus, Kanade and Biboo are no longer allowed on their platform?
>>105667936Someone raided?
Who will be the first in holo to do a original like this?https://youtu.be/_W9SQ2-QNCk
>>1056681033 worst hires in recent memory
>>105668103Do Shiori and Erb even interact outside that watchalong for the flop concert?
>>105668111>Youtube takes a big cut and they're starting to become really oppressive with content moderation, especially with the whole global push for censorship of anything anime recentlyTwo words: Second Adpocalypse.THAT was the peak of censorship, and of total destruction of content creation, and it did jackshit for anime VODs, anime channels, etc.
>>105667936I just realized the og Takamori shadowverse rivalry was split in favor of Anschluss and Gremreaper
>>105668040SHE WILL BE A SECRET GUEST IN THE LIVE YOU CANT TELL ME OTHERWISE
>>105668143Your Gigi? Your Ollie?
>>105668151It's funny because it the height of Shiori's homocollab arc she got paired with ERB for the 2 with 2 homocollabs.She had never collabed with ERB before save for branch collabs or Advent vs Justice and it showed.
>>105668111>What ifyeah that's what I thought, they don't need to leave youtube lmao
https://x.com/StarstormMetaPLEASE SUPPORT
>>105666989>check comment>Japs aggressively defend their ridiculous languange and comparing it to English
>>105668169lol Mori gonna get clapped by gigi isn't?
>>105667936Hmm so if Gigi loses, then CC is fighting Mori
>>105668193>Your Gigi?probably their best hire in the last 3 years.>Your Ollie?not what i would call recent but one of their worst overall.
>>105668209What do you think the purpose of HoloEarth will be once it's finally finished?
>>105668217You know what, if they want to make their own content without trying to leech off the girls for once, good for them.
>>105668209i want to watch holos in 4k and good bitrate...
I get the feeling Justice is more liked than Advent here these days.
>>105668176>Rushis comes back>but she looks like this nowWhat do?
>>105667964Holoearth, it's the future I tell you!
>>105668292I genuinely wonder if a grimdark looking chuuba could work or if the kawaii moe style is essential for success.
>>105668275Most people watch these streams on their phones 4K ain't doing nothing for you on that tiny screen, hell's 1080p ain't doing you much.
>>105667176Wasn't hasan's gf (Valkyrae) in trouble because she asked Asmon about LSF because he's the reddit expert seemingly without thinking about his politics at all i bet none of this big streamers really care that much about anything other than their own clout
>>105668331I think it could work, also you could just have a toggle to switch between the two.
>>105667670>And this is just merch sales, the YT views also give Niji the edge. It’s not just merch sales, it’s every single revenue outside of interest on loans and sale of intangible assets (like property)
kek, japanese are doing kino stuff with the AI thing
>>105666995Nimi have a bf
>>105666893this post really sums up everything wrong with this board
>>105668373The red pill is very few are that attached to their politics especially if they are working in the attention whore market
>>105667928Nerissa streaming on Fansly
>>105668469A fiancé, even
>>105668469Nimi doesn't have a boyfriend she has a fiance, and they got married, so now that fiance is a husband.She also goes to his room everyday to get fucked and expresses desire to have a son
>>105668373That's a fact, they only care about their clout. Ludwig is a perfect example of this, when Hasan said that "streaming is harder than a regular job", everyone laughed at him, and Ludwig also didn't agree with that. But then Hasan scolded him in private and then Ludwig came out and reversed his position on the matter only because he didn't want to lose clout by being on Hasan's bad side.
>>105667413oh yea in retrospect it added to rumors (spread by vshojo management themselves) that the 3 left for more money, no idea if kson was complicit or just stupid.
nice shot cc
>>105668539To be fair Ludwig is the single most weak willed and disgusting man in the entire platform, he is Connor but without the ironic weebism.
>>105666890Based Christian woman
>>105668587What is with woman and social deception games
AVENGERS ASSEMBLE
>>105668640not a single good chuuba in that picture
>>105668582> single most weak willed and disgusting manis probably anisa bf although the shit ludwig did to mang0 was pretty bad
>>105668640I wonder how authentic indies feel about excorpos mogging them in everything?
>>105668640Hey a Nimi retweet finally, and doki and mint too i guess
>>105668640Here comes avenger tardposting for the next 5 threads.
>>105668640>Nimi is totally not trying to force this group into being a "thing"!!
the vtuber board
>>105668640>Sana in 2025
>>105668640besides dooby none of these stream on twitch….
>>105667964they already didwhat's with voice packs and everything
>>105668640LET'S FUCING GOOOOOO!
rowr
Who won?Who lost?
>>105668729Saba's the one that retweeted it.
>>105667842>go out of the way to attract an audience that loves saying that only cucks and simps pay women to do anything>they don't pay for shit>:O
>>105668640AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
is she working hard behind the scenes?
>>105668640>nimi RRAT DEAD>RRAT DEAD
>>105668640AIEEEEEEE SABA ACKNOWLEDGES THE EX NIJIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3yvJYLhvgAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3yvJYLhvgAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3yvJYLhvgASteve is on the hunt
>>105668803Because Nimi begged her to
>>105668640AAAIIIEEE SHE RETWEETED HOLOOOO
>>105668837I don't blame her I would bang that irys pokemon too
and 3.6k on twitchevil woman thriving
>>105668640>Myth members AIEEEEEEE
>>105668837more debuff...
>>105668640>what's right next to the stand Saba rt'd
>>105668830Oh they really gonna start seething now! Indie Avengers just grew to 5 people!
>>105668640If you are about to seethe, reminder that she knows exactly what she's doing and yet despite knowing this you'll still play into her hand
>>105668883>From 10k to 3.6k in one streamTwitchfags have no attention span, they're less than human
I've to go into work early tomorrow. I can barely walk. I think I'll nap.
>>105668837Why does she love hanging around pebbles so much? Why cant other girls do long ass stream? What would happen if current biboo started doing the saba strat and vanished for 2 weeks and streamed only 4 times per month? Will it work for her ?
>>105668830You don't get it. she's working on something big
>>105668894artists are such doxfags
>>105668894>HololiveWOW SABA
>>105668920>reminder that she knows exactly what she's doingWhat happened to her announcement on the 18th
>>105668920Surprisingly the indie avengers term hasn't breached containment afaik but I still think these girls saw the shitposting and decided to make it real.
>>105668894also, not gonna lie, if Mori ever left that model design would fuck incredibly hard
>>105668956I ate it
>>105668964When was the last time any of them collabed
>>105668956>announcement
>>105668956it's gonna be later, good things come for those who waiteventually
>>105668956What part of "she knows exactly what she's doing" do you not understand? She clearly said an earlier date so shitposters would seethe and do free advertisement for itSmall corpos are out there paying thousands of dollars for the level for ads that saba gets for just throwing on day out and letting schizos seethe
>>105668983Speak in english please, cause I have no idea if you are saying that's a bad or good thing
>>105668964>thinking any of them look at or care about retards shitposting here
>>105668894AMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEalso homos down left
Should Saba just retire and move to Sweden?
>>105669025y-yeah...
>>105668956She didn't know it was GG's birthday and threw her a bone. If it where Biboo's birthday though, well I think we would have heard that announcement.
but unicorns told me she was going to lose all her viewers after male collabing, what happened unicornbros?
>>105669025man... the state of indie avengers is crazy
CC has the perfect mix of stubbornly ignoring tactics, and being hilariously impatient, the recipe for maximum comedy. She almost got the tactic of using one match on nearby bodies for a twofer than abandoned it kek. So cute.
>>105668964Saba never cared to do indie avengers (specifically with the ex-nijis) but if she wants to do big concerts its really good to be able to tap other people anyway specially at the startShe's an indie now afterall she can only tap 2-4 holos at most and both mori and kiara don't really seem up for it atm on their RMs
>>105669044Sweden? Wait are still people falling for that despite the main rrat peddler being dead?
>>105668983kill yourself
>>105669026it's a good design, strong color contrasts are greatthe downside is covered eyes with how expressive hers normally are, but I feel the good old anime trope of eyebrows over hair could partly solve it
>>105669096kaniki......
>>105669096>Wait are still people falling for thatNo but they still try, its not like they have any other rrat
>>105669069Her viewership was pretty low pre homo collab so, any increase or decrease post homo could just be attributed to her games not being interesting enough
>>105668964I've seen the "Indie Avenger" term on Twitter and Reddit a few times already.
>>105669025You know we have a writing thread where you can flex your creative skills instead of doing this
>>105669131>"Indie Avenger" term on Twitter and Redditprobably from phasecucks if i had to guess, they are fucking everywhere in reddit
>>105668891she loves justice
>>105669131I'm pretty fucking sure Nimi is lurking here cause she mentioned Avengers first when Nimi Saba and Dooby collabed
>>105669044it really is unfair when hololive gets serious huh
>>105669143We actually DON'T have a writing thread btw. They moved to tower too
>>105669159>Nimi was so cringe with her capeshit reference that Saba and Dooby never collabed with her againMakes sense
>>105669143Don't say i didn't warn you afterwards, this fish is an evil schemer the likes of which has never been seen before
https://x.com/nerissa_en/status/1979863756013461652Advent together for those of you just waking up
>>105669168thats not even holo being serious
>>105669066Slit your throat brazilian cuckling
>>105669096oh right, you made me remember this post>>105629545>>105629545>>105629545
>>105669182Saba's plan is so smart shes somehow killing her own numbers, sasuga
>>105669044sababros...
Fuck Ceci
>>105669229So true! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKU0AdOMXLA
>>105669241
https://www.youtube.com/live/L81e06MU_qsWhy does she dogeza?
>>105669069Heard it all before. You and your ilk were making pregnant rrats about her before the brick incident. If experience should show her anything, nothing comes from dealing with those Stars guys or their fans, see Ollie and her 1.3 million subs. Those "fans" disappear like mist when a new toy shows up.
>>105669217Saba really thought she was gonna be something without the blue dorito
>>105669299>ollie still in the top 1% of vtubersDoesn't seem like it hurt her that much
>>105669096>rratliterally confirmed lmao
what kind of gay faggots do we have here that post random fan merch but not sexy fanart that she retweets?
>>105669044>>105669217So you guys really are just bragging about botting now. The absolute state of /#/
>>105669182Saba's plan is to...say something and then not doing it?Not exactly a good plan.
>>105669159They were literally comparing themselves to the avengers in their first Nightreign collab.
>>105669182shes a retard bro
>>105669342let those poor kanikkers cope, she has the most confirmed bf besides nimi
>>105669069She can't lose what she never had, also, make no mistake, she did lose some and had the potential to get to a median level and that was destroyed.
>>105669229She's pretty much getting around the same numbers she'd usually get at a much worse timeslot.
>>105669096
>>105669353>Not exactly a good plan.You would think, but this fish is thinking precisely 156 steps ahead, and she has divined it to be the correct path to glory
JWU Steiner, the retard who is getting paid to NOT translate Rance is a vtuber manager now, my fucking sides.
>>105669333Yeah, Im sure shes thrilled to be barely a low 4view.
Is nimi back in saba's good graces?
>avengers shit>cuckposting>doxxnice thread...
>>105669379but where did the whole "dead rrat" stuff come from? Is it really just cope they came up with? because its got documented proof n shit
>>105669427no
It's crazy when I look back just 4 months and remember how exciting the EN space was with Nimi, Saba and Dooby all doing well and motivated. No yabs. HoloEN starting to pick up again and find their groove after the graduations. Now EN is at its strongest and most unified in years and the ex-corpos all fell off HARD. 4 fucking months was all it took to fall apart...
>>105669343>post fanart>only get 2 (You)s>post merch>get 15 (You)s (probably half of those were himself or his discord friends)
>>105669407steiner's going to be managing avengers
>>105669387>She's pretty much getting around the same numbers she'd usually getuntrue, even if you go back to june 2024 (her last most consistent month of stream as Gura) she was consistently in the 18-25k range for streamsshe couldnt even dream of getting that now
>Saba retweets 1 fanart post>entire thread shits itself to deathTruly the queen of all vtubers, no one else could have such an outsized impact on all of our psyches
>CC collabs with girls in JP>it's like 4 PM for her and 1 AM for them>the collab always ends due to CC being tired and not the girls in JSTWhy is she like this
>>105669343>gay faggotsmore like pedos in denial, who are scared of saba butt
>>105669373talking about nightreign collab, when will be the nighreign collab with kronii?
sabacucks still coping huh?How many times do they have to get the fell for it award until they know better.......
>>105669481>1.3 million sub shitter
>>105669493Suck my cock
>>105669407>getting paid to NOT translate Rance???You mean he's localizing it?
>>105669492> saba buttSABOOTY
>bae goneFinally
>>105669481>gets a discord that would usually be cuckposting holos, switch their angle to avengertard postingWhat a queen.
>>105668640imagine, this could've been Myth
>>105669520Yes
>>105669431>Is it really just cope they came up with?is the sky blueis hololive still winning
>>105669189
I literally cant remember a single thing they talked about at all in the collabirys collab was way superior
>>105669508>has less subs than ironmouse>mogs her big in ccvhow, i thought ironmouse was the queen of vtubing
>>105669573I think CC was tired since she was like all over the place this past 24 hours (IRyS then Wawa, then Gigi THEN Bae)
Shitposters are just mad they can't correct this fish
>>105669569Biboo always providing the perfect setup for reaction images, that little guy is so goofy.
cutehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjG1Yrye68Q
Wait I had to leave where is CC?
>>105669607imagine pulling her top aside to reveal her cute nipples on her flat flat chest
>Kanikis will have to pretend the like Mint and Doki nowyou cant do anything but laugh at this point
>>105669638Sexting with Gigi
>>105669544How's the translation? I remember Rance VI being fine, and Sengoku, while a bit weird at times, good enough. The Fiend and Archfiend stuff was a necessary compromise, I guess, since I liked the Archfriend pun in VI.
>>105669069She’s a runt and permanently sub locked
>>105669664>pretendthey never did when the homocollabs in holo happened so why should they do it now? you are so fucking stupid
>>105669664I hate everyone gura/saba collabs with but i still watch it because gura/saba is in itKanikis are the ultimate species, sister, we do not need to cope
>>105669721Saved.
>>105669706>sub lockedIt's funny because at the moment her sub growth is 3 times Nimi's
Bros I think we can forgive Shiori now and atart watching her again right? Alot of time passed and she redeemed herself.
>>105669722>I hate everyone gura/saba collabs with
>>105669431not sure, the most recent update was that she started using a puerto rican timezone right after doxniggers itt points out her eu timezone when starting stream on YouTube.some people probably took it as her debunking the timezone angle by showing that she could easily change them dor misdirecting/trolling purposes
>>105669650The fun thing about ai is that you can make that now in about 5 minutesThe sad thing is that posting it leads to a ban
>>105669746Make your own decisions
>>105669342where?
>>105669746>she redeemed herselfno... jeetbros lost...
>>105669706CC......
That was fast I remember CC's song taking like 3 days to be available in streaming services
>>105669746She’s boring anyway. I blocked her whole channel before she even homocollabed
Is it possible for vegans to have big boobs
>>105669763Why is this thing so sexy?
I swear people have been saying Saba/Gura is pregnant for 5+ years straight.
>>105669746>Bros Istopped reading there
>>105669803Its really about being born with it or not
>>105669779in their ass If an anon tells you they know something about saba that isnt 1)she's cute 2) she's funny 3) she's sexy, they are lying or making it upThere's a reason we call her BigFish and it's not due to her size
>holocucks cuckposting and peddling dead rrats while posting blatantly botted numbers Genuinely what the fuck happened to this fanbase? Literal phase tier.>inb4 falseflaggers lol xD
>>105669862Slit your wrists
>>105669862>browncord spams thread with antiposting>blames it on someone elsesurely this will work THIS time
>xDoh, it's the okbhcuck
Are we being raided by green reddit troons?
>>105669862You fool no one phasecuck
Cuckposting doesn’t work when it’s just making up shit that we are supposed to believe, wake me up when something concrete comes out like a LLD tweet, until then back to the crypto chamber waiting for her next stream.
>>105669862The good and smart ones moved to Towa. What's left on this board are the literal cancer to vtubing
>>105669918>saba shitposting and vagueposting>ermm why holocooks like this xDwhat do you think?
>>105669757>her eu timezone when starting stream on YouTube. What else did your schizophrenic mind hallucinate? Kill yourself already, phasecuck
is this board just third worlders baiting and getting baited?
cute 'tame thinking about her overseas fans too, but aren't JP holos appearing in overseas cons already?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5fv0dBJvII
>>105669746i'd watch her if she played good games
>>105669922Mr.Krabs really dosen't look good after the krusty krab had to close...
>>105669932Not like anything has ever come from this retarded boardYou're more likely to find real actual yabs on twitter
>>105669908>while having so many members being fine with it.So, jealousy at her having a large fanbase? She's far from the only vtuber who streams sporadically. I never understood why people are so worked up about it. And not sharing a ton about your personal life should be the normal thing online.
>>105669972How new
>>105669918selenfag hours
>>105670054>post proof>NOOOO THAT PROOF IS TOO OLD?
Is this just a seething napcuck trying to drag everyone to Nimi's level or something?
>>105670054Niggas actually believe things they read on this board, post your telegram group chats next retards this time they'll join for sure
>>105667422New youtube layout is just like me when I first started learning front end, making hover effects for everything
>>105670011>look at my schizophrenia Hang yourself already troon
>>105670083>other anons wanting pics and videos>"uhmmm proof is *words*, believe in me"braindead faggot
>unironically peddling the Gura is pregnant rratThere is a reason this fag didn't spam this anymore (well besides the fact he is probably dead due to being a cripple).
>>105670083you quite literally didn't post any proof for anything you said.
>>105670084All (You)
>>105669722Bro, even if you try to obfuscate, how you react will come out if you hate everyone she interacts with. I'm all for going with the flow, but that is kinda wild to say my man.
Sisters ""evidence"" is the most schizophrenic shit ever goddamn just wait for a lld.
>>105670015Dunno where you saw jealousy in that, I just personally would never feel comfortable supporting someone like that. Same thing as Nimi, naplings are literally just supporting her husband and potential children. Not saying Saba is in the same situation but she clearly doesnt want to share much about herself and is very comfortable living off her fans while providing little content.
>one single saba retweet>entire thread degenerates into asylum modeit's all too easy
>>105670133unironic schizophrenia
>>105670083your "proof" is straight up lies mixed with a bunch of schizo detective reaches and conclusions
Why do trannies get so triggered by lolis?
do people ever learn that asking for "proofs" just means they're baiting you to get a vacation so that they can continue their cope?Serious question
>>10567001>deletedOh shit. Trannysharkmod is back?
>>105670236>ban evading
>>105670232see >>105670036
>>105670211In this case it's not a hatred for Gura but a hatred for Chumbies, reading the archives it feels exactly like the FWMC cuckrrats, how they tried to rally Chumbies, Ruffians, etc, into dropping their oshi, based on purely accusations.Some "people" cannot understand why would you follow someone even when they take hiatuses.
>>105670232asking for proof is a win win outcome
>>105670232That's why any evidence is effectively useless itt unless it's an lld tier yab
>>105670184 I am not watching vtubers to hear all about their irl life as much as possible. Consider learning from her instead of being ""uncomfortable"" on behalf of her huge fanbase. Vtubers can be much, much worse than streaming irregularly.
>>105668748Rare Rikka 4viewAlso what the fuck is new captcha autism with circles above letters?
>>105667842Honestly they should double down on light /pol/ shit and tapping into existing anti-SJW culture war content sphere. Problem is most of this whores are not le based at all even pippa said most other members were niji fangirls and she was alone as a holofag for quite some time of course nijisisters will not share her politics but it also means Phase similar to many other small corpos have no real direction or purpose. Doesn't feel like there's much unity between the talents either, too many secret bf's in the way I guess.
>>105670276(Me)Have you noticed it? How it's always "WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING GURA/SABA DON'T YOU SEE SHE HAS ONE MILLION KIDS AND IT'S PREGNANT 24/7 AND HAS LIKE TEN BOYFRIENDS WHY DO YOU FOLLOW HER WHYYYYYYY"It reads like an angry 2view pondering, bashing her head, thinking why is she popular.
What triggered the Saba seethe this time? Are phasecucks still seething because of the BBC thing? I thought they liked that stuff
>>105668531And worst of all, everyone thought she was a friendly unicorn, but behind the scenes, she had a secret flips fiancé
Dead board
>>105669982She's playing Digimon!
>>105670343Well you see, Saba did a retweet
>my oshi misses ame and mumei >they don't miss the other 2 griftersThis means they hate them and if my oshi hates them then I hate them too. simple as
>>105670416we will revive it if we samefag shitposts hard enough
>>105670313If you feel comfortable giving her money while she treats what she does as just a side thing, good for you. I just dont get people like that.
>>105670455It’s $5 a month for like 6-10 hours of entertainment. People drop $20 to go see a movie or go to a small concert for 2 hours, no one is going to buy your shit bro and you’re just yelling at clouds.
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1979925506108657809
>>105670433i've heard it's good but digimon was after my childhood so i never got into it and thus don't really care about it.
>>105670232No one blinder than he who doesnt want to see and all that
>>105670516Lol buy what? I said if you are fine with giving her money as she puts in the smallest of effort, good for you.
is gigi okay bros?
>>105670585yeah i am her new daddy now
>>105669453Blame Nimi
>>105670455I don't even watch her. Your argument is simply that retarded. >>105670327>It reads like an angry 2view pondering, bashing her head, thinking why is she popular.Sums it up well.
>>105670584Keep seething sis. Saba is objectively better than whoever your mid garbage oshi is.
>>105670611Fuck off mori cc is winning the grembowl
Will Holobros ever stop malding at Saba I wonder?Mentally ill fanbase unironically.
>>105667936>Bots and raids her own sponsored streamclassic HoloEN, ladies and gentlemen kek
>>105670695So true its definitely not phasecucks, i totally believe you bro
>>105670627If Im able to dissuade you to stop being a member by just saying I find you weird if you give money to someone who cares so little, I dunno, you might have some other issues.
>>105670713Cover is a megacorp, they only care about making money and looking good in front of investors.
>>105670695https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/tnum/105661861/deleted/deleted/>talks to himself and argues both sides>blames it on someone elsejust selenfag things
>>105669453>Now EN is at its strongestJust had to bot Mori, Biboo, IRyS, and even Kiara the runt
>>105668894>>105668640ew so a homofag and a doxxfag, nice one saba
>>105670735Your oshis all have boyfriends, love black cocks and engage in cuck rp on stream, phasecuck.
>>105670795Barking up the wrong tree.
>>105669096is this an ironic post or are you really this retarded?
>>105670735Good thing you can't convince anyone of anything with these bizarre, whiny posts.
>>105669746doesnt she still interact with the homos?
>>105670808anything juicy?
>>105670746Higher CCV = More money from sponsorsLiterally botting themselves to make more money, kek pathetic really
>>105670808Pure mental illness.
Another day another raid
>>105670808Looks totally 100% legit sis
>>105670879...kinda? she raids them 50% of the time and comments on their Twitter posts
>>105670808>Police cam rrat>somehow know from a police cam that she was trying to get another nationality from thatThey will literally never stop trying to push this retarded rrat will they...I will never understand the point when no one believes them
>>105670870Not trying to convince anyone of anything.
Damn kiwitroons are going mental, did something actually happen with phase or whatever?
>>105670924then no redemption
>>105670937nta but you are retarded>Not trying to convince anyone of anything.>>105670735>If Im able to dissuade you>>105670957might just be because of a single saba retweet, not even joking
You know confirmation bias? When you have a belief and you fit every narrative so you can keep believing it to be true?>We KNOW>It's OBVIOUS>We can ASSUMEIt's absurd, specially absurd in the case of V-Tubers with good opsecs.
oh man gigi's song absolutely destroyed me haha
>>105670808i believe it
>>105670937Just another 1view loser seething about Gura/Saba for the 15546045th time and then getting scared
>>105668674>Nimi/Fauna>Saba/Gura>Mumei>Ame
>>105670985>he is still her founder on every accountAre we in the making shit up phase? Took you long enough.
>>105670985You are saying they are dating and your best evidence of that is that he follows her, no photos, no videos, no proof whatsoever other than baseless accusations Alright i guess i'm also dating saba then!
seems like there's just no proof in this world good enough for sabacucks to realize they fell for it againsad but not surprised
>>105670987are you implying gura had good opsec when she was doxxed immediately after her debut?
>>105671008>AmeDooby?
>>105670982The dissuade part was in response to a claim saying Im trying to make someone un-member from her. Just dont get those that stay membered.
>>105671040>there's just no proof in this world good enough If you had one proof, everyone would believe itWhat you have is accusations and "WELL UH SHE TRAVELS AND HAS A VPN CHECKMATE BOZOS"
>>105668640the avengers where supposed to recruit Shachi....
i dont feel like jerking off today, not after that.
>>105670808Isnt this the same FAG who thought suisei is a flip?
>105670713>105670746>105670772>105670899they’re still trying this after moris stream beated gigi’s birthday stream?
>>105671040You're a tranny and you will hang yourself before you turn 30
>>105670957They're mad because this board is in the worst state it's ever been and they're still riding in the back of the bus. It's like being the most worthless shitter in Nijisanji.
>>105671120and gave us 3 different gigis
>>105671079>AmeLa creatividad and made fun projects for HoloEN collabs>DoobyClimbed monkey bars on debut...
>retarded doxxfags going mask off again
>>105671210its not like you have to choose, shes technically still bothAlso Sachaeru
>>105671172Oh also the IRyS six fingers, the Shiori faildoxx, Pekora having a kid (lol), yadda yadda yadda.After Miload got doxxed for being a huge retard, the "Aster group" (what a fucking name) has tried to pull one back by searching through the garbage dirt of every Holo on earth but it hasn't worked well thus far.
>>105671085someone already posted itt and got nuked for it meanwhile sabacucks just continue to dismiss them relentlessly because honestly engaging them will ruin their fantasy that their whore are just grifting them all these years
>>105670957
>grab a random picture from google>make up some schizo shit about it>???>profit This is why we need to open mental asylums again
>>105671276ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT
>>105671133>Mori was botted to beat someone elseno way!
>Haachama is going to sing Ash AgainCOVER DONT LOOK!
>>105671293to be fair, most phase girls are still sub 100k shitters, so this is pretty much normal for them
>>105671293KEK no wonder theyre maldingEven YT shorters has more subs than this
>>105671306he doesn't
>>105671293Damn, maybe phase should have went with an all male gen instead.
>>105671120They're low IQ drones addicted to tabloid tier drama that try to pin shit on Holo to get more people to join the doxxcord for le secret knowledge
>>105671276Oh man this tranny is actually mad lmao.
>>105671349the have clio already
>>105671293ok but just to be sure you aint trying to smartass your way, did they both get announced on similar dates?
>>105671293Grim
>>105669527ah the cucks have arrived to defend her i see
>>105671372First Stage got announced LATER
>>105671372yes, they even debut on the same day if im correct
I think i came across the doxxschizos childhood picture
>/#/ exposing saba while chama singing ash againkino
>Saba retweets two pictures >triggers a two hour jeet meltdown Nice thread
>>105671332>was weekend>manager sleepingkek, i love haachama
>>105671372Wtf these dudes are more popular than the homos far less for phase
>>105671372your Phasegirls losing to homos GRIM
>>105671372anon, that's a new gen of MALES vs a new gen of FEMALES. lets not worry about the announcement date
>>105669481>Gura killer>Fauna/Nimi killerTruly the 2 queens of EN
>>105671433anything to discredit the slight possibility that saba is a grifter
>>105671436Two of the five are homo siblings, so its not much of a win for us
>>105671293How solid is the rrat that bettel2 and hakka's brother got into fsp because cover will not hire more shitters. Because if true FSP is just killing off the remaining homostar audience
>>105671419>>105671459>ban evading Did you forget to take your troon pills today or something? Why so antsy?
>>105671466who is this >us
>>105671459everyone here knows she is, its just a few cucks that didnt fuck off to tower that deny it at this point.
>>105671468DO IT FSP! DO IT!>BUY THEM OUT!PULL A VSHOJO!
>>105671433>>105671459lmfao nigger they even watermarked a pic of a random asian girl at some point, Kronii's tweet only happened in nov 2024
>>105671436anon, im sure you know how fujoshit work
Reminder that doxfags are on TVA which is hosted in UK and subjected to their regulations which prohibit dox bullshit.https://ofcomlive.my.salesforce-sites.com/formentry/OSComplaintsSafetyAndComplaints
While I don't know or care if she has a Swedish boyfriend, as a native Swedish speaker who's watched her a lot, I really don't think she speaks any Swedish. Whenever she has to say a Swedish name, she mangles the pronunciation like a typical yankee would, and the only Swedish phrases I can remember her saying are just things Forsen likes to repeat a lot.
>>105671466It will show homos there are greener pastures to go. How does it affect us at all?
>>105671501what the fuck is TVA? also im pretty sure that only covers doxxing people in the UK
>>105671502>Swedish phrases I can remember her saying are just things Forsen likes to repeat a lot.>this entire rrat spawned because gura watches forsen
>>105671293fucking grim the new phase gen will need to collab with the FSP boys if they want to become popular
>>105671506because these niggers love collabing, all this will do is strenghten the HomoEN/FSP bond
>>105671502if shitty pronounciation and low comprehension were a barrier for relationships, then South America would not be hispanic
>>105671501uh oh tvasisters
>>105671535T-T-THAT'S ALL FOLKS
>>105671557In their little faggot circle I never see at all and cover isn't debuting more. Not my problem.
>>105671525The website (the virtual asylum) is hosted in the UK so it’s subjected to regulations as such.
>PROOF WHERE>someone posted proof>AIEEEEE THATS ILLEGAL YOU ESL TRANNY Quality discussion sabacucks
>>105671557>homoshit will collab with another form of homoshitand?
>>105671557For fuck sake, do you even hate the homos? One of the greatest things that happened to undermine the homos in the past year or so was>FSP paying for the homos to fly to Japan in return for a collab with themThat stunt did a twofer>positioned the FSP in the same market as the homos and allowed them to dip in the same shallow audience well of the later>made the homos look like beggars and hobosIf they're poaching the homo siblings it's a matter of time before they poach the homos themselves SPECIALLY in this "total homo apartheid" era
>>105671557>all this will do is strenghten the HomoEN/FSP bond...okay? Great? As far away from the girls as possible?
AIEEEEEEEEHAACHAMA SINGING GURAS SONG
>>105671542That's why Pippa went to twitch con, to network
>>105671590doxxshit comes from kiwifarms, tva is just a phasepag forum.
>>105671602>the proof>random screenshot of a shitter doxcord full of retardswith antis like you there isn't any need to try
>>105671602Good morning saar
>>105671590trust me bro, im from the UK. Nothing will be done about it. Police here are fucking useless
>>105671583They're grasping for straws anon.She wouldn't need duolingo if she could speak swedish at a level that she doesn't mispronounce namesanitubers has been living in japan for decades and still fuck up proper nouns
>>105671602>still no proof
>>105671649bro its literal footage, how are you this retarded
Is it time to deploy the green reddit repellent?
>>105671642Nope they specifically compile all this bullshit >>105671270
Honestly knowing how passionate vtubing community is I'm surprised that no one doxxed and killed the doxxfag monkeys yet desu
are the evidences the same police reports dug by kiwifarms i've been seeing being posted here a couple of times before?
>>105671624>poaching the homo siblingsThey hired the clownfags brother ?
>>105671696screenshot of "literal footage"lollmao
>>105671624Reminder that FSP sisters squatted the fuck out of the homosister website dedicated to them that the website owner just nuked it completely.
>>105671706maybe because the western vtubing community is full of cucks?
>>105671706What's the points?
>>105671332Why should they care?(Assume that chama somehow managed to secure the perm that is)
>>105671658How did nyfco get nuked?
>batposter
I claim that Ceci and Gigi are on a romantic relationship based on Twitter interactions and follows, how they played chess off stream, and the fact they have added each other on Steam.Explicit proof that they're on a romantic relationship? Pfff, don't you see it's LITERALLY THERE?
>>105671436Because they branded themselves as fujobaiting luxiem-clones from the very start. The homoshitters are all a disgusting combination of trying to have wider demographic appeal in terms of personas (fail), ugly-as-fuck models because Cover is too retarded to just generate some chink gacha looking hot guys (fail), and then only imitating nijiniggers with the fag-pandering etc. after everything else failed (fail)
>>105671719>thread full of doxshit antis>batnigger ligtroon shows uplmfao
>literal footage
>>105671696he want you to post the video so that you could be vacationed and he can keep his fantasy that saba is just a sickly virgin in the states that couldn't even spare a few hours in a week for people that have supported her for years
>>105671723NTA but isn't there documents you can get from the Florida police or something?>>105671751by not paying there bills lmao
>>105671293I can't believe phase is losing in debut hype to some literal who fujoshit group. Why aren't Pippa's fans subbing en masse? Aren't the new girls Pippa orbiters?
>>105671706from my experience almost all doxmonkeys live in shitholes like SEA or south america
>>105671742lol so true look at all the jap fans who murdered antisretard lmfao
>>105671713They also hired hakka's brother
>>105671293Seem like male vtuber is da futureFishman better step the fuck upOr better yet, become a streamer himself
>>105671794>defending the western sceneoof
>>105671698Yes
Seems like some tranny is having a really bad day considering he's been seething for like 2 hours now while ban evading
>busting out the retarded fake police report shit againKiwifaggots are brain damaged lmao
>>105671751Nerissa
>>105671804Lmaoooo FSP is going to eat the homos lunch
>>105671816post the jap fans list of kill SEAmurai tranny i'll wait
>>105671706>sabacucks are so mad they unironically want to kill people for warning them from the grifterseek professional help
>>105671804I cant wait for all the collabs where people while allude to *le secret knowledge*its gonna be so unhinged
>>105671729Kek really? They just took it over?
>>105671822have you considered its not one person?>>105671830>fake police reportahh there it is, the cuck cope
>>105671794niji and cover themselves find and sue JP antis who go too far with their shitposting all the time.
>>105671751Real answer: they pissed off Nijifans
>>105671851You are posting doxxcord screens on 4chan my dude
>>105671870>niji and cover themselvesyeah cause they are company that can use jap lawswtf does that gotta do with fans?
wait, why the fuck are we discussing Saba here? she hasn't streamed for like 5 days now
>>105671851they are cucks, just let them be
>>105671665oh, I don't actually care for doxxshit, I just made an autistic historical remark
>>105671773How do you live with the fact that you'll never be a woman? Is this why you are so mad? You really should just hang yourself already, no one will miss you anyway. Your parents will be happy
>>105671874If I did I would be long banned
>>105671868>Please please accept my police rratNope cry harder!!
>>105671899the saba cuck squad is real mad right now, they will lose interest eventually
>>105671899we?
>>105671894JP fans don't have to do anything about antis because the corpos themselves are doing it. corpos can't do anything about antis in the west because the doxniggas are behind 7 VPNs and live in some mudhut in bolivia.
Total SEAtroon melty
green reddit fears this
>>105671899scroll up anon chama >>105668640
Just post cunny.
>ban evades>"no bro, he's just want you to get banned, don't post proof">keeps ban evading while making up shitreally? is this their best excuse?
>>105671920>c-c-cry harder!that's all you can come up with? maybe those kiwiniggers have a point about you lot
>>105671899Saba is more interesting than anything Hololive did in the past 5 days, tbdesu. Besides getting botted again lmao
>>105671851>>105671868>>105671941Holy tranny monkey meltyKeep going please, your meltdown is funny
>>105671899as per usual, sabacucks getting rowdy because they're realizing they fell for it again.
>>105671956... that's it?! LMFAO
>>105671948They don't because it's not worth it, even in JP they rarely go to courts, usually they just send them a warning and the antis stop.
>>105671956I don’t blame him for not believing that an entire thread was shit up because Saba retweeted one thing
>>105671973> those kiwiniggersTranslation -> (You)
>>105671973You can always return to your hugbox for a good old ciclejerk
>>105671963>ban evademy guy, have you ever thought that maybe just a lot of people dont like grifters
>>105672007Nah, both Cover and Anycolor got some fat settlements in the million yen range. Even Mikeneko, I think
It's always funny seeing them go full mask off and start openly seething and frothing at the mouth. Is this what estrogen does to a man?
>>105672016> calling others a hugboxironic
>>105671899>avengers posting>people point out that gura is a grifter who still doesn't stream>chumpedos get uppity>dox loop
Kiwitroons will forever be second class citizens even on this hellhole. You should make the world a better place the only way you can and rope.
>>105672066>Clickbait thumbnailsReally?
>>105672066>No Limitations!>No Permissions!>Still doesnt stream
>>105671761
Will SEA ever learn how to properly use the word grifter or are their brains simply incapable of doing so?
wow this thread is dead lmao, kiwiniggers truly run this place
>>105672068Ants...
>>105671706The truth is that the worst stalkers are always lone wolves who don't operate in discord circlejerks.
>>105670232>trying to give tips on shitposting better.Yeah, you're making the case that you aren't just shitting up the thread.
>>105672022>>105672066>unironically seething on cooldownKek, be careful monkey, gonna get aneurysm like that
>>105671899Haachama sung Reflect a little while ago in her stream.
>>105671665Learning thousands of kanji and every obscure reading used in proper nouns is a bit more difficult than knowing how to pronounce vowels in Swedish. Being aware that you say them differently if they have funny dots on top of them is something duolingo should really only need a single lesson to teach you.
>>105672068Ant-chama
>>105672112Talent freedom to not stream
>>105672150
>>105672114Fuck condoms! I'll do it RAW!!
>>105672150>still no real defense for the grifterdamn bro, come up with something at least
>>105672165>>105672127Turns out I may be retarded
>>105672169kek, thats a good one
>>105671956Some people really are beyond help if this is what set him off
I can't get into all this flaccid Saba shitposting, still reeling from the lore drop that recontextualized GremReaper
>>105672147>recent >augustKill yourself retard
>>105672170we cant inspect element /here/Go back to your retarded doxxcord!
>>105672194ew that face
>>105672215pretty recent in saba time kek
>>105672169Phase chuubas do this all the time and kiwi/tva fags don't mind thoughbeit
>>105672156it was Ash Again, not Reflect
>>105672206gg love morp because of her father issue?
>>105672121No good streams today until Nimi starts in 5 hours or Saba does something besides retweeting lol
>>105672194Biboo isn't a slut tho
Thinking about Clockwife
>>105672206>two women still reeling from their loss who find comfort in each otherhold on a second
>>105672247she sang both
>>105672253what about hololive? the only people that matter?
There's always will be bad blood between holofags and sabafagsThe sooner you guys realize this the better.For sabafags, hololive MUST be a black corpo that exploits her and holos are tangentially guilty because they let her being let go happened.It can't not be otherwise because then they'll have to accept that saba left betraying part of her fanbase and the idol dream for nothing but, at best, a slightly larger cut.There's a reason why the more schizoid saba fan twitter accounts are seething at cover or holos at every turn
>>105672247she sang both. Reflect right after Ash Again.
>>105672245They only care about plappaWho stream thoughbeit
>>105672181Hello saar pls do the needful you blody benchod
>>105672194Well you like Biboo, so...
>>105672147>admitting to posting dox>admitting to ban evadinglmfao
>>105672277did the voices tell you this chimpoid?
so how does posting loli stuff work? they are literal doxxniggers not redditors I doubt they care
>>105672273We dont care about holo
>>105666195>>105666782Didn't expect this one to be truehttps://youtu.be/VdDxyfF0NY8
>>105671276>someone already posted itt Sure its always that, its never "here's the evidence that proves it"It's always someone else posted it in the past i just don't have it on handTypical
>>105672292>STILL no defenseyou remind me of those old /jp/ fags. All cope no substance
>>105672318it doesnt, but cunnyposting is always fun
>>105672318>I doubt they careall that shit that started on kiwifarm come from their anti loli thread
>>105672318Kiwifaggots are horrified by cunny
>>105672273The only people that matter in hololive all left already
>>105672318loli posting only worked post Niji vs Holo since troons hate lolis and women
>>105672277Hey phasecuck, how does it feel knowing that your oshi is currently gagging on a black cock while you're seething here in a dead thread?
>>105672331have niji L2D rigs been updated even once after 2020?
>>105672277You mean just like naplings before the LLD lmao
>>105672251both lost a close family member and their lives are partly shaped trying to live up to the expectations of people that are no longer there
>>105672380idk go ask saba
>>105672370what do you think the fags on that anti loli kiwinigger thread are? also kiwifarm is full of women and troons