Imagine showing this to someone 2 years ago, they wouldn't believe you.
>>105712649Show it to your father and tell us what he has to say.
>>105712649Gura had been on graduation row for years.
the only shocking graduation of those 5 was fauna
>>105712649use this one instead
>>105713171idk, pomu's must've been pretty shocking given how many said she would never leave
Why do people insist indie avengers were an invention of the numbers thread? I don't think this guy has ever been there and yet he makes a group project for the avengers.
>>105712649Imagine buying any merch that is not officially released by the streamer and instead giving your money to some random popularity chasing idiot.
>>105713404Imagine giving money to a whore instead of buying something of higher quality
>>105712649They would be confused as hell cuz the only one here still using her old design is Mint, the rest all had major changes (remember when Nimi was a loli/flat moeblob, Doki had a super girly design and Dooby was a flashie?)
>>105712649>Imagine showing this to someone 2 years ago, they wouldn't believe you.Well yeah, because they wouldn't have any context at all of who most of these people are. Time is linear.OP, are you by any chance autistic?
>>105713404Anon have you never been to any convention everUnofficial merch is not only commonplace, it's expected. There are entire areas called "artist alleys" set aside for fans to sell their self-made merch.
>>105713581>old design is MintI miss v2 Minto. So much for being indie
>>105713171Selen was literally a Niji hardliner. I think you didn't look at the pic at all
>>105714513and she was treated like shit by the rest of niji so not that surprising that things went south there.
>>105714513>>105714927We just learned from their newest graduate that the management doesn't give a shit even if you're in Kuzuha's clique lmao
>>105713233There were two camps: people who saw the writing on the wall 2023 was a shit year for Pomu and people who were very defensive against such insinuations, labelling everyone a shitposter for suggesting that. The former would go on to create /mint/, the latter still seethe about Pomu/Mint and gloat whenever something bad happens to her
>>105713310>ex-corpo artist make ex-corpo art>/#/ and btvm: omg INDIE AVENGERS!!!!
>>105712649>two years ago>only two of them stream nowThere's something here...
No one on this board would have believed you if you said Pomu would become Fauna's biggest collaborator.
>>105715630I was there when Fauna raided Mint, the meltdown was amazing
>>105712649you need to go back to 2022
>>105717001I remember how nijisisters spent months spreading rrats about DokiMint being blacklisted
>>105712649How do I stop impulse buying plastic slop like this? I would be down $125 if I was there
>>105712649Pokey's art is so good
>>105713233Pomu was so burned out/bummed out her last year it didn't shock me at all as her fan. She even talked about it several times before that, about thinking about graduating someday. Before that? yeah.
I ahve a shelf with Selen and Nina, Pomu and Fauna on it. If I had known they'd all graduate I'd have bought more... and put Kiara on that shelf too
>>105717001
>>105718720I'm still not entirely convinced about Doki, though. I just don't understand why even IDs like Ollie would be avoiding her. It does feel like they're heavily discouraged from interacting with or acknowledging her.
>>105722417Homos played with her though.
>>105722350Mint was a massive upgrade anyway
>>105722375This reminded me there was a dedicated schizo in /uuu/ who was photoshopping Mint out in any art of them together. I hope he killed himself after the lld
>>105722471Yeah, that's why I'm unsure, but it does seem like the boys and girls always had different restrictions on collabs, etc. My pet theory is that the boys rallied together to convince staff to let them interact with her, but who really knows at this point. It's just really odd that not a single one of the girls has ever mentioned or interacted with her in nearly 2 years other than Ollie early on, who mentioned her once and then likely got bonked to never do it again.
>>105714187you appear to be incapable of reason
>>105722417It's not hard to figure out: >HoloEN girls barely collab outside the company, and even if they do, it's either a one time thing or only with someone they've known IRL for years>Doki plays a lot of FPS/PVP games and pretty much none of the HoloEN girls play them; the only ones who actually play them regularly (or enough that they could play competently) were Ame, Mumei, Liz with something, and IRyS with Splatoon. Yeah she plays other games but those were easy multiple collab partner ice breaker games for her.>Only really knew Mumei and afaik she's never really reached out to the HoloEN girls all that much in the first place>even when the collab ban was lifted she only did like 3 or 4 collabs with the girls, and they were either Ame, Mumei, Ollie, or Zeta (that's what my memory tells me anyway)Contrast to:>played/practiced in VSaikyo for a month straight with Axel and Altare, ending up with them becoming close friends >set up an Apex tournament with them>Axel threw down on main that he supported her when the Selenshock happened; him and Altare also near instantly collabed with her on their PL's when they got the chance>when she's reached out to ask if StarsEN wants to participate in her events, she almost always gets over half to nearly the whole branch showing upPretty much the reason is she just has more connections and friends among the guys than the girls at this point. You can say 'never say never' on her trying to collab with the girls in the future, but it just seems down to interest.
>>105713171Pomu and Selen were shocking if you weren't very keyed in. Pomu was the one people were saying would be the last hold out in Nijisanji. Selen leaving was less surprising per se, but no one expected it to be so explosive.
>>105722417Kiara and ERB mentioned Doki by name today, don't think they would do that if she was blacklisted. I think it's more a case where Doki just doesn't have any connections nor commonalities with the remaining HoloEN members.
>>105723897Well, that shuts down all of my concerns/rrats.What a relief, I guess. Thanks for mentioning it, anon.
>>105715630A few years ago nobody would believe Fauna would become Kronii's most hated enemy
>>105726079The yuri just got too real.
>>105722592no, not really
>>105712649Why wouldn't they believe it? The fact that they graduated or that they were popular enough for merch?
>>105729992I think it's more about Gura/Fauna next to Selen/Pomu
>>105712649>1 print for $25Artist alley is so shit brehs.
>>105738476seems reasonable to me>time and skills put into drawing>printing costs>travel costs>hotel room costs>table rental cost
>>105714241Yeah and the value of that junk is $0 unless its made by their design artist. Not only that but you aren't supporting your oshi because they get nothing from that.
>>105740576>Yeah and the value of that junk is $0 unless its made by their design artist....no? What logic are you using to reach that conclusion?>you aren't supporting your oshi because they get nothing from that.You can also purchase things because YOU enjoy them, anon.
>>105723897what, when? i don't watch either, so curious about context
>>105735144i unironically wouldn't believe fauna and selen would ever interact or even be remotely in the same space two years ago
>>105741440https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV_OIC4PAWA#t=2220s
>>105712649It was obvious to anyone who isn’t a complete fucking retard that niji EN was going to crash and burn eventually.
>>105741440>>105741476Also a bit later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV_OIC4PAWA&t=2655s
>>105740619As a former artist alley girl, Doki in particular LOVES fan merch of herselfShe says the reason she doesn't buy too many large plushies or furniture for herself is because her apartment is up to the ceiling in Doki merch and she's always plugging or shouting out fan merchants. Picrel, it's her Offkai haul. I still find it hilarious how many bikini pictures she got of herself, including a few with Mint. She does find her model hot, I guess. https://x.com/dokibird/status/1936974355671793831https://files.catbox.moe/ciby9v.mp4
cringe
>>105713404So like 97% of cons.