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>"That was already happening, like, after Evil's debut. At that point, I was already in in a lot of pain. I had to work on Evil while being in pain having to talk to... him for the entire month, while, you know, going through emotions. It's like...trying to stay professional. It was hard. It was tough."

>"There was this one thing that really bothered me. I've seen people saying stuff like, "I don't care. I don't care about the situation. I also got rejected a lot of times and nobody cared. Why do we have to care when it's a woman?" Okay, first of all, me sharing this thing does not mean that your situation is not valid. I don't know why they think that I'm invalidating their situation because me out of anybody; I literally know the pain that you went through and how much it fucking sucks. Like, I'm not your enemy. I literally feel you. I literally know what it feels like. Like why are people turning me into this enemy that is like, you know, I don't get this."

>"The reason why I shared was not because I wanted pity for the for being rejected. I don't need this. Okay? I'm only speaking about this for clarity to the community that why I haven't been around Neuro for the last eight months and why the sub goal is not going to be fulfilled."

>"Yesterday I mentioned the NTR art, right? People brought up from the past, like from four years ago, I did a tier list where I put 'NTR' pretty high up. I don't fucking know why I did that. I probably just wanted to farm some internet points because it was a meme back then, and everyone was doing the fucking tier lists. But I don't judge people liking it. But I frankly I never consume that media. But people confusing fantasy and reality is concerning and it says a lot about them not about me. I don't judge, Okay?"

>"Yeah. I'm glad I can I can laugh about this now. I think in general, I've been trying to be better at setting boundaries on stream and in my friendships, relationships, everything."

>"I never said that I'm perfect. I'm not perfect. I never claimed to be perfect. I had a very very toxic past, and it roots all the way from my childhood; I have a lot of toxic shit in me that I'm still dealing with. Yes, Soviet parents, all that stuff. I was abused as fuck as a kid. I grew up being a toxic motherfucker. Streaming has been helping me. Like it's dramatically improved me as a person... I became kinder because people are kind to me."

>"That's another thing that people like to bring up. There was like a thing I did like a quiz years ago. That was like, five, or six years ago. I did a quiz where there was a question "if I ever cheated" and I laughed because I was fucking nervous about it, because I was, like not sure what my answer should be. I flirted with someone while being in a relationship, then I broke up with them. But I still consider it cheating, and I don't do that shit anymore. That was years ago, I was fucking young and stupid. Like, nowadays, if I have a partner, I'm very committed and I would never do that shit to them. But I hope I clarified things because people really like to bring me down from things I did in the past."

>"I'm not completely healed. Like, obviously some things still trigger me. But I've been in therapy for over a year now. And there's been so many fucking things that I learned and my eyes got opened on to."

>"Also, if there's anything that triggers you in me, that might be a good way to reflect on yourself and see what it is and notice maybe that's something that is a problem in you (laughs)."

>"There were people saying like, "Oh, so now because you were harassed, you want him to get harassed?" Like, I never said that. I don't want him to get harassed. Uh, this is just, like, stupid feelings. There's nobody who's wrong, nobody who's right, in this kind of situation... I just want to say how fucking painful it was during the hype train (laughs). [Referring to the 'marriage stream' hype train]

>"I'm not going to say the exact timeline, but it happened before the new year. Um, yeah, that's all I'm going to say. It' was very uh... Yeah. I was already thinking of uh leaving back then, but I had to finish Evil's model."

>"I-I do stupid things when, uh... I love someone... I would do anything for my partner. Kind of want to hide now (laughs)."
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Doubled down on what? Vedal rejected her, how are you trying to turn this into drama?
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>>105725251
He hurt my oshi's feelings, I must defend her honor so maybe she'll notice and fuck me.
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was half of this stuffed talked about anywhere other then here though?
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>>105725206
People with 10k views in the vtubing sphere are just so SEXY. I am just in love with the most popular male vtuber in the space! He is just such a man and has so much charisma!
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>>105725251
>Vedal rejected her
i don't care about either of these people, but i have a lot of respect for how much of a bullet vedal dodged. glad to see my fellow man avoid falling into emotional hell that would almost certainly compromise him professionally.
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OP, she got rejected by someone she works with and wanted to vent/explain.You're reading way too much into this.
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>>105725425
I don't see anything wrong with what she's saying
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>>105725206
anny
stop
this doesn't help
quit it
you're hurting yourself
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>>105725206
Anny made me realize that it really is possible for women to be lonely nice guys too.
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Mucho texto. Where's the qrd?
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>>105725425
Give him time.
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Thank God for AI because I'm not reading all this shit or watching this shit and I got it all in 2 sentences
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>>105725206
>got rejected before new years
>proceeds to rally his fanbase to break to the twitch hype train record that is still standing today
>"I do stupid things when I love someone"
I can't help but feel bad for her. She was so lovesick and just couldn't let go even after rejection. Staying around him and being so supportive for someone who didnt feel the same must've fucked her up.
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>>105725206
can someone summarize this with an LLM please, 3 bullet points max
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>>105725542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fFmWC8wIcw
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>>105725567
Nothing worth notice.
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>>105725480
>>105725567
AI:
>The speaker endured significant emotional and physical pain while working on a project (Evil), struggling to maintain professionalism during a challenging personal situation involving rejection and interactions with a specific individual.

>They addressed misunderstandings about their intentions for sharing their experiences, clarifying that it was to explain their absence from a community (Neuro) and unfulfilled goals, not to seek pity or invalidate others' struggles.

>The speaker reflects on personal growth through therapy, acknowledging a toxic past and past mistakes (e.g., flirting while in a relationship), emphasizing their commitment to change, setting boundaries, and not wishing harm on others despite their own painful experiences.
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>>105725206
>But people confusing fantasy and reality is concerning and it says a lot about them not about me

isn't that how you started this whole mess? dumb bitch. Also stop reading /vt/ if you care about your mental health, i know you're in this thread right now
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>>105725206
>nuke
that LLD was a bigger nuke than this psychological fetish choice
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>>105725636
thank you Jarvis
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>>105725664
>isn't that how you started this whole mess?
yeah she fucking loved feeding the shippers, never forget her making a wedding stream with vedal one of her subathon goals (that her cuck fanbase helped her reach)
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>>105725480
This just dropped on her and she responded "Yes, I'm fine"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mMyPJSx8RU
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>>105725206
>gold digger tries to manipulate a millionaire into becoming her sugar daddy
>millionaire treats it like a professional relationship and politely shuts her down
>gold digger cries she can't get a millionaire sugar daddy
There are lots of esports players with zero standards, or she can crawl back to IPN and see if her takes her fat hoe ass back.
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>>105725476
This is most of the KPop fanbase.
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>>105725206
she needs to stop coming to /vt/
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As I said yesterday, lmfao the fat whore wanted to grift the british femboy 'til death did them part, and the femboy of course wouldn't want a fat whore when he's swimming in cash
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Holy shit anny is pathetic
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This but Anny
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>>105725425
You only say that because you're being affected by the semen demon avatar. If Anny's RM was an indog instead of a slav, she'd be pretty much a clone of Ollie's RM. The two of them have the same features, except Ollie is shitskinned.
Would you fall into emotional hell for the white version of Ollie's RM?
>>105725206
>"Also, if there's anything that triggers you in me, that might be a good way to reflect on yourself and see what it is and notice maybe that's something that is a problem in you (laughs)."
I mean, sure, I gotta work more on my abs. I'm constantly 5-10lbs overweight going by BMI, which I should be working on. I however am not a piece of shit grifter, so eat shit landwhale.
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>>105726207
so much hate for someone who just got rejected by a guy
you're a psycho
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>>105726243
NTA, She had every opportunity to not air out this supposed "drama" of hers in public but no, pitybaiting attention whore to the end.
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>>105726243
fuck off anny just leave this place
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>"Yesterday I mentioned the NTR art, right? People brought up from the past, like from four years ago, I did a tier list where I put 'NTR' pretty high up. I don't fucking know why I did that
>There was like a thing I did like a quiz years ago. That was like, five, or six years ago. I did a quiz where there was a question "if I ever cheated" and I laughed because I was fucking nervous about it, because I was, like not sure what my answer should be. I flirted with someone while being in a relationship, then I broke up with them. But I still consider it cheating, and I don't do that shit anymore. That was years ago, I was fucking young and stupid.
God I fucking hate women… why do they always come through some sort of revelation once they’re old and used up and not during their youth…?
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>>105726368
why do you thibk shes sharing it retard
because people are bothering her about it
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>>105726243
I'm not throwing shade or nothing - I'm even accepting I feel insecure over one of the things I'm accusing her of. We both need to go down a few pounds. Or a few dozens in her case. So she's at least partially correct, because while I'm not in the healthy BMI range, just like her, I'm not a grifter, unlike her.
It's not hate. It's just striving for veracity.
Now, if we were talking about Camila? That's a piece of shit cunt who totally deserves every piece of hate she's ever gotten.
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>>105726446
>It's not hate.
>I however am not a piece of shit grifter, so eat shit landwhale.
psycho
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>>105726472
fat nijisister
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>>105726207
You don't know what Ollie looks like.
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>>105725206
She needs to get off this site lol
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>>105726501
psycho
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>>105726434
Yeah? she had the opportunity to tell the ppl bothering her to shut the fuck up and/or fuck off but that wouldn't garner her any attention.
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>>105726506
Where were you? The retard let her huge round face show on the reflection of a CD case a couple years ago.
>>105726546
fat nijisister. Go do 30 minutes of cardio, it's good for your brain oxygenation if you follow proper breathing patterns.
Hell, even 10 minutes would do you good.
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>>105725206
>I flirted with someone while being in a relationship, then I broke up with them. But I still consider it cheating, and I don't do that shit anymore.

Doubt
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>>105726571
telling people to fuck off doesnt make them stop

>>105726577
im not fat you demented moron
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>>105726577
>Where were you? The retard let her huge round face show on the reflection of a CD case a couple years ago.
I am aware of that. I think actual images are better than reflections from objects that are not mirrors. Update your dox.
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>>105726644
Doesn't matter. She chose to be an attention whore like always.
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>>105726717
you're retarded
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>>105726644
>im not fat you demented moron
Holy shit, it's really Anny. gb2/bed/ whore.
>>105726375
Good job my man.
>>105726680
No can do, they killed that one site and I've been too busy with work to do reps this year.
The CD case picture is pretty conclusive though. I'm looking at it right now, and there's no denying it.
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>>105725206
I'm not reading all that shit. Also she's a fucking retard for making needless drama in the first place. So you had a crush on someone and it didn't work out, so fucking what? You don't need to be a stupid attention seeking whore about it. Don't out your personal shit, just move on. Why are women so dumb?
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>>105726757
And you refuse to see the obvious but it won't change no matter how deep in the sand you stick your head.
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>>105725206
skippa skippa
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>>105726882
based
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>>105725206
>"I don't care. I don't care about the situation. I also got rejected a lot of times and nobody cared. Why do we have to care when it's a woman?"
TRVKAGGEDDON
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>>105725206
I wonder how Vedal feels about all of this
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>>105725206
qrd
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Maybe wouldn’t have been rejected if she wasn’t fat
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>>105725476
>Anny made me realize that it really is possible for women to be lonely nice guys too.

The exist too, down to the horribly high expectations plus being shitty people hiding in a coat of niceness.
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>>105726853
people were harassing her about her absence so she gave them an explanation
it's the opposite of attention whoring, nobody wants to admit they got rejected
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>>105727004
>Trying to start drama on the internet isn't attention whoring
Retard.
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>>105727072
shes not trying to start drama you idiot
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>>105726925
vindicated that he keeps dodging all these whore's at the cost of being called gay
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>>105726396
It was the wiser older women who had the task of imparting wisdom and help raise girls the right way. The chain broke with feminism and rejection of tradition from the 20th century, what you're seeing now is the consequences of multiple generations of men and women making basic mistakes and recreating issues that already had solutions because there was nobody around to tell them what's what, or the few that did were ignored.
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>>105727097
What she is doing is textbook definition of starting drama
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>>105726949
>>105725945
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>>105727142
>modern women don't have mothers
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ETA till she has a suicidal melt down over this?
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>>105726847
>sperging out about a woman having a crush on a man
You could have chosen so many paths in life and this is the one you ended up on.
>why are women so dumb
>specifically the women that have figured out how to harvest the income from hundreds if not thousands of us men of our own volition without any force applied or sexual favors granted
You're so incorrect and retarded it's impressive.
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>>105727155
She's addressing drama
That will create more drama because of idiots like you but it's unavoidable, she has to tell people what happened
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>>105727097
>grift off the Anny mom/Vedal dad meme for years
>goes on at least two rants about being in love with Vedal but him rejecting her
>totally not starting drama
Hit the gym instead of hitting /vt/ Anny
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>>105727004
>Hey lil timmy i see you didnt come to school today we are worried about you are you sick or something?
>AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE STOP HARASSING ME
Anny acts like an emotionally deranged teenager.
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>>105727214
>she has to tell people what happened
No she doesn't. She doesn't anyone explanations but dealing with her problems in private doesn't get her any attetion which is why she is now airing out her problems to start drama.
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>>105727199
That already happened during the first rant.
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>>105727234
hitting the gym wont fix her homely face
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>>105727289
If she doesn't tell them they'll keep asking
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is it true that she originally friendzoned vedal?
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i will fix her if none of you can
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Anny if you are in this thread, hear this:

Lower your standards.
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>>105727301
You'd be surprised how much not having hog cheeks improves one's looks.
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>>105727337
Which she could just ignore but no.
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>>105727341
More like she didn't really care for him that way as she was coming from a break up of a 5 year relationship when they met and by the time she realized she was in love with him he had already moved on from her.
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>>105727383
>Just ignore people constantly harrassing you about something instead of giving them an answer
You're really stupid aren't you
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>>105727419
>Just ignore people constantly harrassing you
Yes! It's very easy online, just ban/mute/block and they don't exist. Even if they make new accounts you keep doing it without mentioning it at all and eventually they get bored.
Women everywhere fail this simple task and then cry about it for pity points.
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>>105727341
More like she didn't really care for him that way as she was fucking some other dude (or knowing the white woman in Japan stereotype, likely doing enko with multiple dudes) when they met and Vedal wasn't filthy rich back then, and by the time she realized she was in love with his money he had already moved on from the whores orbiting him.
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>>105727419
She could have but alas, she is an attention whore desperate to have eyes on her.
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>>105727476
Why the fuck would you spend your life blocking everyone instead of just answering them?
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>>105727412
thats kind of sad
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>>105727518
Because answering adds fuel to the fire and ignoring them does not?
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>>105727518
>but women lack conviction and integrity!
Yes I am aware. Not my problem
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>>105727383
Streamers should have a thick skin, but the ridiculously huge numbers of someone like Vedal make that irrelevant.

If you stream and 95% of your chat messages are directly ignoring you and making drama about someone else, it is a pointless waste of time for the streamer and the legit viewers. No amount of mods or filters can fix this.

In most other circumstances, yes the streamer should grow up and ignore them. Here it's quite literally and physically impossible.
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>>105727543
>Because answering adds fuel to the fire
It doesn't, there's no fire or drama.
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>>105727584
>It doesn't, there's no fire or drama.
Said in anny drama thread, the fucking irony
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>>105727543
>fuel to the fire
what fire? she liked him, he didn't like her, that's it, question answered, end of story

>>105727553
conviction and integrity is telling the truth you mongoloid
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>>105727556
>If you stream and 95% of your chat messages are directly ignoring you and making drama about someone else
Made up number.
>No amount of mods or filters can fix this.
Wrong.
>Here it's quite literally and physically impossible.
Wrong.
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>>105727653
I'm right.
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>>105727644
you're the one creating drama
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>>105727645
You arent obligated to say shit retard. Conviction in this context means continuing to ban them and staying quiet but women are largely incapable of doing this because they want to drink from the sweet well of pity, which is a lack of integrity.
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>>105727690
And anny airing out her problems in public isn't?
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>>105727681
No you're retarded. Addressing the issue once gets simps on her side then banning everyone is trivial. It's not some monumental task, its fucking clicking buttons on a mouse, which she doesn't even have to do. Mods do it for her.
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>>105727645
>she liked him, he didn't like her, that's it
Sure, totally not drama.
Funniest part is, she gave a different reason in the previous stream besides the drama: she fell into suicidal depression and missed deadlines. She could've just said "I left the project for my mental health. I was missing deadlines, which forced Vedal to change riggers and the previous rigger to be harassed. I feel like I can't be trusted with such an important project, so I removed myself from it", which was also true and would've avoided all the drama.
Alas, that would be accountability, and fat whores and accountability are like water and oil.
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>>105727720
Why the fuck would you ban them when they have an honest question and you can give them an honest answer? Where does your concept of morality come from, the quran?
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>>105727777
Look up the word obligation and then come back
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>>105727644
>Said in anny drama thread
She clarified why she won't be interacting with Vedal anymore, your samefagging on 4chan because women shouldn't be allowed to speak isn't "drama".
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>>105727767

You ignore how disgusting and vicious the Vedal fans are.

I'm a Kitanya watcher, and after the rigged the Neuro model they kept fucking up herchat. No moderation could fix it.
She had to directly tell them to fuck off, that she would never talk about neuro and she decided to never rig for anyone again.

And this is someone who barely interacted with Vedal, someone like Anny is a 100 times more fucked.

I suspect you're indian as you're incapable of understanding how one single antisocial agent can destroy a whole community. You want people to ignore how you shit on the street and just keep walking.
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>>105727479
I did used to notice there were a lot more clout chasing chuubas in his collabs and talked about in the neuro thread, but it seems the number has indeed dwindled down significantly. I guess one by one they are all learning he isn't going to share a bed or a bank account with them so they all have a cry and block him forever.
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>>105727774
No, it's not the truth
You're literally saying she should lie to avoid creating drama
Fucking bugman
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I cant believe the shipping was real in any direction that's kind of incredible, I was 100% sure it was all an act
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>>105727807
Nobody is obligated to do anything here
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>>105727644
the only one perpetuating this fallacy of drama is (You)
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>>105727814
ok simp
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>>105725206
>"There was this one thing that really bothered me. I've seen people saying stuff like, "I don't care. I don't care about the situation. I also got rejected a lot of times and nobody cared. Why do we have to care when it's a woman?" Okay, first of all, me sharing this thing does not mean that your situation is not valid. I don't know why they think that I'm invalidating their situation because me out of anybody; I literally know the pain that you went through and how much it fucking sucks. Like, I'm not your enemy. I literally feel you. I literally know what it feels like. Like why are people turning me into this enemy that is like, you know, I don't get this."
this is because of vtubers like smugalana who spread incel and anti-woman rhetoric that try to paint women as "the enemy" and that every single woman is horrible and only want to hurt you
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>>105727864
Well, it was at first at least kek.
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>>105727883
Good one
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>>105727891
Never watched an Anny or Vedal stream, you're just retarded.
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>>105727835
>clicking your mouse is impossible because...it just is okay!?!
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>>105727938
Yet here you are
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Isn't anny like twice his age?
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>>105727916
>that every single woman is horrible and only want to hurt you
This is true thoughbeit.
A woman's greatest hatred in the world is a content, relaxed man.
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>>105727960
Yeah she should just constantly ban people instead of addressing the issue once and moving on
Fucking moron
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>>105727854
I'm saying that's also the truth. She also mentioned that in the previous stream. The whole rejection thing is nothing but drama fuel, and was unnecessary to just tell people she was out of the project. Unless of course, she wanted to stir up shit because she's a fat dramawhore.
Let's assume VedalAI was a real LLC, with Anny hired as its chief artist. The professional thing to do would be for something like my statement. Hell, it's clearer if you see it this way: if the fictional VedalAI LLC PR manager gave my statement about missed deadlines and an amicable parting, it's all good. But if the fictional VedalAI LLC PR manager gave a statement containing the points Anny made, she'd be in the right for suing VedalAI LLC for disclosure of private matters.
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>>105728044
It's technically true, but it's essentially a lie, you aren't telling people the real reason, you are misleading them
You're arguing that she should lie to create less drama, which is immoral
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>>105728015
Addressing the issue can be
>I don't want to talk about it
>Creative differences
And then banning the ones that don't stop instead of confessing your love to another streamer and making your entire stream about it.
That's a pure pity party drama farm and you and everyone else knows it
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>>105727960
banning people doesn't solve the issue, it just makes people more likely to do it again to get direct attention
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>>105728099
So you're saying she shouldn't address the issue and ban people who ask, like I said
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>>105728107
>people will do it forever and never get bored with no attention because...they just will okay!?!
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>>105727720
>>105727774
>lack of integrity
>for the horde of virgin incels jerking by the thousands even as we speak
Humorous
>complaining about it starting drama
>while simultaneously starting the drama by even giving a shit about this nothingburger
Very funny
>also bitching about women dodging accountability
>while posting on the incel board that exists to keep your problems and obsessions alive and well by keeping you from addressing your problems
Down-right hilarious anon, thank you for another 5-star delusional /VT/ post.
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>>105727960
Its easier to just give an answer instead of lying and banning everyone who brings it up for years. You'll forget about this so called "drama" within a few days and everyone will be happy and move on, their questions have been answered.
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>>105728143
>So you're saying
>[thing no one said]
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>>105728099
Saying "I don't want to talk about it" would just make people more suspicious about what happened. I do think she could've went the "we simply just had different visions" route though
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>>105728175
"I don't want to talk about it" is not addressing the issue
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>>105728153
It's easier to farm drama and simp donos than keeping your personal life private yes I agree
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>>105728145
Yes? the clips of them are super popular, it would never stop unless addressed.
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>>105728200
Yes, it is. You arent entitled to any information you request just because you gave some whore $5 and she said your name on stream
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>>105728246
>Yes, it is. You arent entitled to any information you request
You literally contradicted yourself right there
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>>105725206
Now she's trying to gaslight people about what she did. Face the consequence, woman, you can't keep getting away with everything
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>>105725476
Old whore pretend to be virgin
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>>105728272
You are literally retarded. First "obligation" now "contradiction"
Any other words you dont understand? Are you a monkey who just repeats things?
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>>105728275
>stop harassing me and please completely ignore how I've been shipbaiting you all for over 2 years
Woman moment.
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>>105728275
what did she do?
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>>105728338
Saying "I'm not telling you" is not addressing anything, it's the opposite of addressing it, and it will not stop people from asking
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>>105728358
She fed shippers and now she's facing the consequences of her actions.
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>>105728385
>and now she's facing the consequences of her actions.
What consequences?
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>>105728385
how is that a bad thing
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>>105728378
Yes it is addressing the questions.
Not addressing it would be saying nothing at all.
Both of these would be viable options! But she chose the drama farm for some easy pitybux
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>>105728385
I don't think shippers are the problem, I think Vedal just genuinely doesn't like ugly fat Ukrainian women
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>>105725804
She received many dicks and none want to bring her home. Should I pity that? Nah, she's probably richer than me
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>>105728435
Saying nothing is a 0/10 on the addressing it scale, saying "I'm not telling" is a 1/10
Of course she can just give them the fucking answer, which she did, and the issue is resolved
Yet you think she should not address it and just ban people indefinitely for some reason
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>>105728429
Sticking with Neuro and retards pestering about it when she could have stopped after Neuro's first model. Instead she stayed with Vedal to bait shippers and now that she's heartbroken it's hurting her.
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>>105728378
>and it will not stop people from asking
Who gives a single fuck what people ask lmfao.
You zoomers are so terminally braindead from years of putting your entire lives online you think these people on your screen are in the room with you or something.
Like the anon you were replying to said, no one is entitled to any information on the internet, and they WOULD get bored of asking. If it was really so bothersome, maybe do something other than sit there like a blob reading your chat all stream.
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>>105728434
its not but Anny defense force and Anny herself keep these threads alive by defending her saying it is a bad things for actions to have consequences. in reality she shouldn't have fed shippers so hard without ever addressing the growing number of them till it became a problem when she got rejected, or you know just don't feed the shippers till your actually together not before you are.
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>>105728385
she's not facing the consequences, Vedal is
because now all the insane shippers she encouraged for years are harassing him for "betraying" her since he got a new artist/rigger for a future neuro model
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i hope she goes back to making me cum with lewd asmr because holy fuck has she been boring this past year. just reacting to youtube videos and talking about being depressed and now she feels better and now she's on break again because she's depressed and now she's back and she's been trying to lose weight and now she's depressed and now she's back again! anny please just be a horny fox girl again, those times were kino. back when you wanted to make your viewers nut instead of some stupid british faggot
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>>105726243
>just
It happened at the end of 2023 wasn't it?
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>>105728526
>Who gives a single fuck what people ask lmfao.
The streamer gives a fuck if the people watching her are constantly harrassing her, obviously
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Literally no winning move can be made.
You either get shipperschizos pestering you with more and more fervor the longer you ignore them.
Or you actually address the elephant in the room and get called an attention whore. Tough choice.
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>>105728561
I'm gonna have to ask you to read the whole post mkay
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>>105725206
Anny is too mentally ill to be "important" if this is what she does when she receives the average behavior of fans.
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>>105726954
She had her chance in the 1st year. He watched her the most during that time too
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>>105728593
Your post is moronic, you're literally saying "just ignore your chat", no they would not get bored
When she could just give them an honest answer
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>been in a relationship for half a decade
>fuck around with a bunch of other streamers/vtubers during her whole career
>still get 50K subs in a subathon
are annyfags worse than naplings?
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>>105727004
More like she gave them more fuel to burn her with
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>>105728562
has she tried not being a mentally unstable depressed schizo?
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>>105728526
>Spend entire life banning people every stream asking what happened or Answer the question and move on
This dilemma mindbreaks anon.
>and they WOULD get bored of asking.
You are retarded, the Vedal and Anny clips get constant views cycling through new people. Chatters would never stop asking, which is why she is addressing it in the first place.
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>>105728546
How long until someone makes a viral post on Twitter accusing Vedal of being a sexpest?
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>>105728669
yeah, but there's not much you could do. It's a lose-lose situation
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>>105727177
Indeed, anny doesn't live with her mom
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>>105728562
There was an easier way out >>105727774 , but she decided to sperg for drama farming, pity bucks and some revenge on the turtle instead.
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>>105728639
So hypothetically, how long do you think people would keep this up? Months? Years? In the tiktok generation mind you.
No. It would be weeks at most of Anny saying nothing about it.
Play a game perhaps. Take your attention off of the chat. Do a collab!
Too much effort? Yeah I bet.
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>>105725206
Her numbers have never been better
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>>105728747
Years
I take it you don't have much experience with online socialization, because if you did you would understand how unrealistic your viewpoint is
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>>105728713
>these words on my screen, aarrrghhh, they just keep appearing!!
>HELP ME NIGGERMAN!
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>>105727419
You learnt nothing from Rushia it seem
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>>105728668
The difference between Anny and Nimi is that Nimi is a traditional and pure hearted woman. Anny is just a slut.
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>>105725206
>I was abused as fuck as a kid
Holy shit, that explains everything
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>>105725206
You can't just throw the other n-word around like that.
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>>105728804
>when the only things you know about the world come from watching vtubers
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>>105727479
This. Only those who stick to him from the very start deserve him
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>>105728781
Lmfao you are delusional. Attention spans are not that long.
I'm done here, go throw another $5 at your dramahog
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>>105725206
>"Yesterday I mentioned the NTR art, right? People brought up from the past, like from four years ago, I did a tier list where I put 'NTR' pretty high up. I don't fucking know why I did that. I probably just wanted to farm some internet points because it was a meme back then, and everyone was doing the fucking tier lists. But I don't judge people liking it. But I frankly I never consume that media. But people confusing fantasy and reality is concerning and it says a lot about them not about me. I don't judge, Okay?"
let this be a reminder that women are not as horny as they portray themselves on the internet and you are being pandered to
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>>105728791
Isn't that what you're doing though? You're upset and crying because a girl said that she liked a guy and it wasn't reciprocated so they're not going to interact anymore.
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>>105728668
yes, way worse
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>>105728867
>Attention spans are not that long.
You understand this has been going on for nearly a year already right?
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>>105727840
At least he's generous about exposure boosting
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>>105728867
>Lmfao you are delusional. Attention spans are not that long.
You've already been debunked, since she ignored it for months and was still being constantly harassed about it.
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>>105728887
No? You are projecting your feelings onto me.
My advice is very easy to follow in practice. Filtering and closing the tab makes you disappear if your words affected me.
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>>105728853
Ew, no, Camila has never stopped leaching and that definitely doesn't mean she deserves him.
He deserves a good Christian IRL chick, not some e-thot. Though then again, he's in Britain, so that by itself is a fucked pool to choose from too.
Why hasn't he moved yet, by the way? For someone so gains-oriented, why is he still paying half his dosh to the crown?
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>>105727916
Women are their worst enemy lol
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>>105728867
it's been almost 9 months of them asking her about it anon....
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>>105728953
You have zero understanding of the social dynamics involved here
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>>105728928
it's just a shame some people took that as him flirting with them
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>>105728804
>implying Michael doesn't fuel the drama herself 3 or 4 times every year
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>>105728954
>Christian
>good
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>EVERY STREAM 95% OF THE MESSAGES WERE ABOUT VEDAL FOR A YEAR IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO IGNOREEEEE
>PLEASE BELIEVE ME THIS IS REALLLLL
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I think it would have been very funny if the roles were reversed, people would probably go around saying Vedal tried to rape her and that's why she rejected him.
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>>105729014
coping retard
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>>105729014
>>EVERY STREAM 95% OF THE MESSAGES WERE ABOUT VEDAL FOR A YEAR IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO IGNOREEEEE
Girl, that's your OWN fault, you made your content Vedal-centered for the last two years.
>what is accountability
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>>105728546
He'll get over it. That's how awesome he is. Not some kind of woman drown herself in drama and miseries
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>>105728999
Yes, good. Far better than some atheist or degenerate Jewess.
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Anny is literally a fat whore who draws lewds and used to do sexy ASMR for her viewers.
Bullet dodged
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I wonder if all this is a bait to make Vedal comment on it, so she can twist his words and the narrative to ruin the guy
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>>105729018
okay and? women can't "rape" men.
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>>105729014
Are you a Vedalfag or something, why does her answering a question so she stops getting pestered about it upset you so much?
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>>105728983
Which is one of the many things that make Ellie so fucking awesome. It was 100% business with her from the first moment.
Then again, comparing an actually employed Engineer to an artfag living off of her boyfriend and lewd streams is not really fair.
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I just think it's kind of sad how she helped him achieve the Hype Train record right after she was rejected / was about to confess and be rejected.
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>>105729063
ironically, like the schizos in this thread suggest, he can just ignore it. made easier because his AI twins won't give a fuck either and it's impossible to dominate his chat because it's constantly flooded with people just trying to talk to the AI and make it say funny things.
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>>105728719
I would go to a different community, telling my story to strangers in a non specific way, learn what I should do and try to be better. Nowadays I use AI for encouraging speechs. Fat fox act like her chat and vt is all she has to talk about her problem, which is her biggest mistake
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>>105727556
Why are you making shit up? Yes the chat asked a lot but it was by no means unmanageable and it wasn't 95%
>Look guys let's focus on this stream and don't bring up other streamers
Job = done. Mods do the rest. This works for Hololive
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>>105729093
Of course. And it'll be lucrative for her all along. He'll win in the end if he keeps on pumping code tho.
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>>105729211
She's not looking for help you fucking retard she's addressing the people asking why she doesn't collab with Vedal anymore
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>>105729140
nta but I didn't like it because it seems dirty to air it out like this. It really is pity bait
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>>105729242
save me cursorman
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>>105729217
What works for Hololive doesn't work here
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>>105725476
It's why I crack up when men buy vtuber mechandise. You think she cares about you and wants to repopulate the white race? She just wants to live a luxurious lifestyle and farm her audience as much as she can.
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>>105729294
Why? Hololive is way bigger than Anny and Vedal combined
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>>105729217
>Job = done. Mods do the rest. This works for Hololive
Oh its a holofag crying because a female dare speak a word about their personal life. Every holo fucking hates their chat and never interacts with them.
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>>105729331
Because Hololive is built on an image they project, not real human relationships
You know that Fauna graduated because of behind the scenes interpersonal drama right?
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>>105726243
Boo hoo men get rejected every day and nobody throws us a pity party. Honestly should've leveled up on StairMaster instead of playing vidya.
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>>105728867
>go throw another $5 at your dramahog
NTA but I don't need to be a simp to be surprised at your stupidity and disgusting "don't talk about real life while im trying to disassociate" mentality.

Even now there are still people who ask what happened between Jontron and Egoraptor but before they addressed it they literally had schizos figure out what times they were recording so they could go and play that game and upload a public comment that had a small chance of showing up in their episode that said "ADDRESS JONTRON".

Yes, retard, the people on the internet are in fact that pathetic and obsessed. Where the fuck do you think you're posting?
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>>105729352
>ENfag
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:(
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>>105729217
hololive is a major vtubing company, possibly THE most major vtubing company, Anny is a mentally ill indie who is retarded and wastes money that she could use on therapy to fuck men instead
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>>105729368
Looks like it's a good rule to follow.
Blue dorito wins again
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>>105729331
All the Hololive girls literally hate streaming because of the shitty rules and community.
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>>105729274
shes only doing it to get people to shut up about it. its not pity bait at all, you're just creating any narrative that lets you be a hateful piece of shit.
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>>105729426
>Looks like it's a good rule to follow.
Not really, people get tired of inauthenticity
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>>105729421
Hit the gym and stop dramafagging Anny
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>>105729421
turn that frown upside down
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>>105728987
Keep burning self with drama and 1 day end up like her
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>>105729472
):
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>>105729469
/thread
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>>105729462
Any day now...
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>>105729429
>Gigi and Kiara
>most JPs and IDs
EN (bar a couple exceptions) is its own thing. Western women, after all.
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>>105729549
HoloEN has been declining in popularity for years
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>>105729437
This is actually Anny lmfao.
Bitch you did this to yourself if it's not pitybait (it is). Take a look in the mirror
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Ok but for real though, why do you think Vedal rejected her? Do you think he's gay or already in a relationship? Maybe he doesn't like landwhales?
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>>105729135
they definitely can, and if they get pregnant they can rape the mans bank account afterword.
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>>105729595
>Maybe he doesn't like landwhales?
I mean, he's a brit, so he's got landwhales all around. Severely ran through, old, grifting landwhales though?
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>>105729614
oldest trick in the book
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>>105727916
Men get angry at this kind of drama because when they do get rejected, they're told by everyone(especially by women) to shut the hell up and bottle it all up. They don't get a chance to express the emotional baggage of being rejected so when they see a 3.14 cutie talk about this and get an overwhelming amount of support, it's frustration that quickly turns into anger.

What turns from a simple rejection from a girl, quickly turns into a rejection by society. Society typically frowns upon older men who are still single.
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>>105729652
I'm getting the feeling that the people in here who are mad have never even been rejected because they've never even talked to a woman
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>>105729595
She wouldn't fall for him/take rejection this badly if he was gay I don't think, so weirdly enough vague turtle W? He might actually beat the gay allegations
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>>105725206
>But I've been in therapy for over a year now.
lmao, imagine being the psy that have to listen to some girl coming in crying about how she fall in love with a turtle after giving birth to fake AI children for him (2 time)
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>>105729595
ok let's take an objective look into the option of saying yes.
-potential currer ending schitzo event incase of breakup since people 90% of ime take the woman's side like they are now
-not a great past track record of behavior, constantly freaking out and turning suicidal over nothing
-more past behavior suggesting that she would not be loyal in relationship and likely cheat on him at some point.
i would say no too there's like no positives for him to say yes to dating her other then getting to fuck.
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>>105729259
No amount of therapy can help a single person stand against an army of schizo, dimwit. It require intelligence, which she doesn't has
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>>105729729
That's actually an interesting point. To be fair he met a lot of people especially a lot of women streamers since he got popular, wouldn't surprise me if he has his eyes on someone else.
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>>105729778
>No amount of therapy can help a single person stand against an army of schizo, dimwit.
thats exactly what therapy can help with actually
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>>105729595
He's business oriented now, would not appear on streams if it was not damaging.
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>>105729429
>All the Hololive girls literally hate streaming
>looks at my oshi
>9 streams this week
ok sister
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>>105729595
Someone sabotaged her, spread bad news about anny to him
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>>105729825
You mean herself on her streams and Twitter? All the bad shit we know about Anny we learned it from herself.
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>>105729595
He is a normal dude with a rl social circle where he must be in a relationship or interested in a girl there, not a desperate incel, virgin and desesperate who will fuck even a homeless crackhead
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>>105729825
>It was revealed to me in a dream
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>>105729747
>so a turtle talks to you? and with a British accent? can anyone else hear him? does he tell you to do things for him?
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>>105729684
But anon, they're talking to you right now
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>>105729614
if a man is getting "raped" he wont be getting hard. sustaining an erection under serious stress is not possible
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>>105725251
Vedal is GAY. BIG GAY. She confirmed this by saying that he rejected her. Only a raging homo would reject her.
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This entire drama is proof that bro dodged one hell of a fucking bullet
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>>105729910
she's kinda ugly, which is probably why he rejected her
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>>105729910
Pretty much yes. Imagine the things she'd do in bed.
Mentally ill pussy goes hard
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>>105726243
where do you think you are?
there's literally 2 hugbox websites for vtuber fans and you chose the worst one to hang out.
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I mean, he clearly like camila more anyways
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>>105729352
Female personal life is how much dick they wanted to suck while shoping jewlry, you don't need to be a genius to understand why you wouldn't want to spread this to your man audience giving you money like some bum in the street.
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>>105730033
He has more interesting and funnier dynamics with literally everybody else in his group of friends but they tried too hard with the mom and dad shipbaiting.
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>>105729563
>Western
You mean White woman. Kiara and Mori are the oldschool japanophile exceptions but all the ones in EN that couldn't cut it were the White N.A. girls.
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>>105729910
Your woman standard must be at bottom of the barrel
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>>105729922
Trvke, imagine having to deal with the mental illness, vague posting, drama of the day, just for some 28 year old pussy (that's on the other side of the world)
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>>105729864
Even the fat fucking face comes from her own twitter. Last I checked it was still up.
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>>105729652
Actually, this is nothing. Men have it far worse
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>>105727984
Not twice but definitely older than he is
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>>105729957
To be fair, mentally ill chicks FUCK. And desperate fat chicks FUCK. And gold diggers FUCK at least at first. Tell her you have a blindfold fetish, and that should be the best your cock has ever felt. Shit consequences though.
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>>105729930
>>105730114
She's hanging her pussy in his face and he says no?? Come on man just admit that Vedal is a gay gay and that Anny outed his homosexual tendencies to everyone.
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>>105730286
Bro's gonna slide under the doors after she's done with him.
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>>105729803
This mean you got scammed by therapist, they told you to keep doing it so your mental can't heal
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>she got a taste of what it would be like to bear children and have a family
I honestly don't blame her for catching feelings, she got a taste of the traditional life women had stolen from them by feminism
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>>105730319
Anny pls, your pussy is rotten from all the guys you fucked already.
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>>105730476
Good point. The whole "mom" dynamic with a child-like character definitely played into the brainworms Anny experienced.
Come to think of it I wonder if she ever actually knew what Vedal looked like? Or if the "love" was really all about the fake family dynamic and the looks didn't matter
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>>105730476
Huh. You make a solid point.
Sorry about calling you a fat grifting whore throughout this thread Anny. From that point of view, man, must be tough. Too bad you're too roastie'd to ever experience that. So sad.
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>>105730562
Not true! She still has a few years of fertility left.
Though she'd have to drop streaming if she actually wants that.
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>>105730476
Good point Anny, now take your pills
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>>105730286
true
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>>105725206
>I did a tier list where I put 'NTR' pretty high up. I don't fucking know why I did that.
Not so fun when it happens to you.

Why do women have to air out everything.
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>>105730714
>>I did a tier list where I put 'NTR' pretty high up. I don't fucking know why I did that.
She knows why she did that, she was literally farming reactions but taking responsibility for your actions is hard.
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>>105728821
kek
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>>105729184
Ellie definitely was also interested in Vedal and enjoys hanging out with him however she understands that it's business first with the friendship part just being a bonus. It's probably why Vedal respects her and pretty kind even on stream with her. Something anny was not able to achieve
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>>105725206
why does she need to make all this public? she got rejected? so what. we didn't need a fucking dockey.
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>>105728821
Seems to be an eastern euro thing. Every girl I know was beaten, or worse.
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>>105730816
I don't know. Ellie is clearly way more into Bo
>no, it's just friendly teasing and banter
no, it's clearly flirting, fuck off my imaginary Ellie. The kind of chemistry Ellie has with Bo is something she's never even closely had with Vedal. When it comes to Vedal Ellie is clearly all about business.
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>wahh wahh I'm a woman who's famous on twitch you can't just possibly reject me wahh wahh
>wahh I'm going to make everything about this private situation public and whine about it for attention and pity points now wahhhh please donate to me so I can get through this

Learn how to deal with rejection you fucking retarded whore, it sucks when you had it easy your whole life, doesn't it?
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>>105730829
because schizos bother her every time she streams what happened and vaguepost about neuro
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>>105730829
Revenge, as her simps are going to stop supporting Vedal now.
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>>105730919
>Dear god...words! On my screen!
>AIIIIIEEEEEEE
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>>105725206
omg who cares this bitch is fat, ugly and ran through
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>>105731005
>A girl talked about something personal?
>DRAMA! HOLOLIVE SAVE ME PLEASE!
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>>105725206
schizos get a bad rap, when we have actual loons and retards out there with a platform to say all the retarded shit they want.

when will the schizos get their turn!!!????
WHEN IS IT OUR TURN??!?!!!?!!??!
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>>105725206
>"Also, if there's anything that triggers you in me, that might be a good way to reflect on yourself and see what it is and notice maybe that's something that is a problem in you (laughs)."
Take her advice you disgusting incels
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>>105731090
What does Hololive have to do with anything??
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>>105725886
its not based when a frenchy responds like this.
its only based when its someone with substance/value.
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>>105731110
schizos get deplatformed and sued into oblivion just to be proven right 10 years down the line. Ask Alex Jones.
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>>105731120
>>105726207
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>>105731120
A line straight from her little therapist I'm sure.
>No no, you aren't the problem. Externalize it to everyone else! Girl power!
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>>105730891
I heard bo is now dating some else (might be wrong Idk). Ellie though friendzoned him saying he shouldn't stop streaming because she stops since she would stop cause she be married and have kids by then. She even brought up a vellie kissing thing while he was there adding on to it in autistic way. There is other moments too but sorry man their just friends
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>>105725425
this
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wow this thread has a lot of... interesting people
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>>105731335
From all walks of life to talk about.... what is this about again?
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>>105731335
No one cares foid. Log off
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>>105731254
Even so, she has way more chemistry with Bo than with Vedal. I haven't seen her try to grift the same way Camila or Numi have. Hell, Layna tried that route even more, which was barely.
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So... Anny was the unique one that did models for Neuro? to be honest she was just that from my point of view, or vedal have someone else to do it? this isn't about losing some random whore, it's about losing the outfits for Neuro, she should just follow the path of an artist and just draw, putting her feeling on the desk wasn't asked at all.
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https://x.com/NeurosamaAI/status/1980342502885659120
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>>105731335
hit the gym sister
>>105731411
unless you count the original Hiyori model artist, Kani Biimu.
There have been a few riggers though.
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>>105729368
>You know that Fauna graduated because [HEADCANON] right?
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>>105725206
> I did a quiz where there was a question "if I ever cheated" and I laughed because I was fucking nervous about it, because I was
>That was like, five, or six years ago

Sorry bitch, if you're a cheater a man would don't want to risk it. Maybe vedal would accepted you if you weren't a walking redflag
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>>105731527
>There have been a few riggers though
those riggers were brough up by anny, except the first one that is now busy working for phase and he's unlikely to come back anytime soon
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>>105731228
Even if it was, it is absolutely correct, you spend all day on 4chan trying to ruin people that you take no time to work on yourself and find your own inner peace and happiness
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>>105731688
>talking shit anonymously in a containment board inside the cesspool of the internet
>ruining people
anything you say sister
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>>105731688
Yes Anny it's my fault you are retarded
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>>105730902
I assume she's young. like, straight out of highschool young, or at most mid 20s, and really never faced rejection in her life.
Most adults, men or women, learn to take this kind of stuff on the chin early on, and realize it's nothing personal if you're not the other's type.
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>>105731768
>I assume she's young. like, straight out of highschool young, or at most mid 20s
jej
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>>105731748
I'll give you 1/2 credit you're right you're not ruining Anny you're trying to but she does seem stronger now.
>>105731758
Typical dumbass
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>>105731394
That's mainly because ellie respects vedal and already gets what she wants by working on Neuro projects. She said before she hangs out with people through projects. She isn't in the streaming game like others are so she not going to do all of that. It's simple as that. The main point is the ellie understands that balance which is the main difference compared to anny
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>>105725206
>But people confusing fantasy and reality is concerning and it says a lot about them, not about me
This doesn't work for NTR shit, most of that stuff is super miserable. I don't care if it's fantasy; if you are into that sort of shit, there's something wrong with your brain. Getting off misery and anguish is not normal.
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>>105727864
I feel the same, I'm surprised that /vt/ was right.
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>>105725206
>how dare he for not wanting to be with a fat mentally ill chronically online streamer like me
>I need to let everyone on the interwebz know so they can feel bad for me!!!
how delusional are women really
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Anny should have mobilized her fans to arrange a shotgun wedding.
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>>105727835
>reddit spacing
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>>105731933
In that case we're in agreement. Whether she's into the turtle or not doesn't matter - what she IS into, is the project.
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Does she not have friends? Why is she doing this in public? Has to be awkward for Vedal. And it makes her look like a loser
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>>105725755
kek
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>>105732043
>Why is she doing this in public?
To dramafag. For pitybux.
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>gets easily attached to someone
>starts getting too close to them and crossing their boundaries
>goes depression mode when they tell her off and aren't interested back
Real BPD menhera moments right there, this is more common than you think
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>>105729910
Gold diggers put me off, also I would never fuck a woman I work with, so I kinda get him.
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>>105729652
Realest post ITT
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>>105731926
>legitimizing rrats
what this guy said >>105731758
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>cant get impregnated by alpha
>refuses to cuckold beta
one day people like her wont have to suffer give up already
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>>105729652
human women are the real monsters
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>>105725206
Vedalbros is he gonna get school days'd?
https://youtu.be/nHd3QXw_Gac
https://youtu.be/nHd3QXw_Gac
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>>105727142
you mean they would force their daughters into submission to whatever the husband wanted even if said husband was abusive.
if you hate how society treats you now, just imagine how they felt when that shit was more common
>>105729652
>Society typically frowns upon older men who are still single
not as much as they do to older women though.
>>105730147
you can blame other men for this shit since theyre the ones who created the conditions.
>>105732311
women are the Frankenstein's monster to men's Frankenstein then.
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>>105725206
hell yeah incel thread
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>>105731935
Finally somebody with some sense, not to mention porn rewires your brain one way or another
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>>105731120
That's the dumbest advice I have hear this month... And I've on 4chan more than usual this last week
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Is this why she stopped doing JOI ASMR?
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>>105725206
QRD on this? Did she really ask Vedal out? I thought it was just memes.
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>>105734349
She asked Vedal for SEX and he said no because he's GAY.
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>>105725206
>she doubled down
She got a 8 patty burger instead of 4?
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>>105725206
I respect OP for transcribing these clips so I don't actually have to watch them
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Anny Love!
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>>105729747
It's probably less pathetic than the dude who went into therapy over the fact that nyanners made her relationship public.
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>>105729747
i'm sure there's been a lot dumber. like when i was in high school and overheard girls with literally no real problems in life saying they were going to therapy to talk about god knows what. maybe like their grade isn't that good or something.
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>>105725425
>dodged a bitch that is literally into cuckolding + interracial
the turtle twink didn't want to get BLACKED by used goods and that's entirely valid
good on him
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>>105725251
women can't handle rejection



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