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Cum Edition

>What is /lig/?
/lig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss indie vtubers who have on average 500 viewers or more.

>Why /lig/?
Large indie vtubers have more net fans, but they are outnumbered by 2views by the thousands. This is a thread for the VIP, regardless of what language they stream on.

>Can I shill my 499view oshi here?
Considering averages fluctuate widely, all the way down to 100 is reasonable. The minimal requirement however is being Twitch partner or the YouTube equivalent in numbers.

>Wait isn't that one a corpo?
/lig/ is a thread for chuubas of a decent size who aren't defined by their corporate branding, either due to the small size of the corporation or the independence and lack of oversight granted to the talents

>/lig/ Numbers
https://lignumbers.neocities.org/

>Twitch Clips Guide
https://pastelink.net/34vd5

>VOD Archival Guide
https://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_Guide

>/lig/ VOD Archive
https://rentry.org/Indie_Vod_Archives_lig

>Koikatsu cards
https://mega.nz/folder/JYtkXJwL#07gAQCQqI_9FsmX9oQJKSA

>/lig/ Wheel of Names
https://wheelofnames.com/49w-z2x

>Tiermaker
https://tiermaker.com/create/-lig--16586688-3

>/lig/ Chuuba Birthday Calendar (WIP)
https://www.canva.com/design/DAE-XgWodVg/ofLz4QC1yPPQ4T6TTAE0fw/edit?utm_content=DAE-XgWodVg

>Upcoming Birthdays
October 24th - Moriko Kyoho & Yuy IX
October 28th - VividlyVivi
October 31st - Ecto Plasmrat
November 4th - Bella
November 8th - Krumroll
November 9th - Bao & Leaflit
November 11th - Mint Castella
November 17th - Rummy
November 24th - Layna Lazar
November 27th - Dashducks
November 29th - Fanguu
November 30th - Inislein

>OC material for the OP
https://mega.nz/folder/IIVD1IaJ#cfsRhWdJvzneIoG8HZUPuw

>Ducks
https://www.twitch.tv/dashducks (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)

Other useful threads:
>>>/vt//big/
>>>/vt//corpo/
>>>/vt//choc/
>>>/vt//flip/
>>>/vt//haha/
>>>/vt//indie/
>>>/vt//mint/
>>>/vt//swarm/
>>>/vt//vrt/
>>>/vt//xvsj+/

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halo lewd h stuff?
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I love my wife
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Meat should tease me with her toes
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I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!
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>>105783192

Said no one ever
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>>105783197
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>>105783198
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>>105783192
Kill yourself
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I love my Oshi, I hope she's having a good break in California, and I hope she has fun at Disney.
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Why do liggers only stream at night?
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Filian is a wonderful person who is worthy of love and support
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>>105783227
what does the trophy wives at the gym think about her just going away like this
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In 5 days Vivi will be turning 33; show your appreciation by contributing to her birthday card! Submissions must be SFW and have image dimensions that are a multiple of 200 (200x200, 400x400, 200x400, etc).

Some things Vivi likes for inspiration:
>The Simpsons, Homestar Runner, Fallout, Broken Sword
>Visual Novels, Cozy Games
>Achivement Hunting, Tarot
As well as her many friend groups, such as:
>Barbies (Nina, Inis, Shondo, Olivia, Tanya and Soya)
>Vershion (Mako, Jets, Clio, Hanya and Yozo)
>JAST idols (Reiyu, Tane, Yozo, Kumo and Ichigo)
>Just Friends (Nemo, Aito, Bakiin, Shuumi, Wayshi, Pucci and Pearl)

Model references: https://mega.nz/folder/oz0GlT5Y#HGPq78f8S7mEgGTTGMQ4tg
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>>105783197
i like when she rubs lotion on her feet while live and makes sure to let chat know
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>>105783192
>autobots, roll out!
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In THIRTY SIX HOURS it'll be Moriko's birthday, show your appreciation by contributing to her birthday card!
Card rules:
>Submissions must be SFW
>Image dimensions must be a multiple of 200 (200x200, 400x400, 200x400, etc.)
>No AI art
>Do not sexualize the bat

Some things Bat likes for inspiration:
>Her friends (non-inclusive): Girls FC, Shondo, Oli, JoshikoPro, Stalker Alker, SandyLoam, Imakuni, Myra Mors
>Her son Batrick
>Monster Hunter
>Digimon
>Legend of Zelda (Majora's Mask especially)
>Pikmin
>Xenoblade Chronicles
>Binding of Isaac
>Too many retro games to list
>Tanks
>Dinosaurs

Model References:
https://mega.nz/folder/hiFlgCpD#NZaKaw2f_T4C6Bi9VIBI0A
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God I really want to cum inside Shyrei (Squchan)
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>>105783273
>vtuber created by Miel
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>>105783251
They sleep until afternoon
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Please be nice to Nina!
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>>105783255
I'm sure the spin class cult she goes too barely notices. They're far too rich, and focused on cult things.
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>>105783318
unless she marries me i will stay away from her, she's too enticing
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French Bunny is live
https://www.twitch.tv/parasi
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>>105783318
I'll be so nice to her she stops streaming if you know what I mean
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>>105783198
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>>105783370
why do women do this?
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>>105783370
Kill yourself simon
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Bwah!
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kill zoomers behead zoomers roundhouse kick a zoomer into a trashcan force zoomers to play old videogames break a zoomers fingers if they use the word 'jank' poke a zoomer in the eyes if they complain about the camera pull on a zoomers hair if they make fun of the graphics
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>>105783419
MGS1's controls really do suck dick though, it's a shame she'll miss MGS2 though
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>>105783419
Go away old man, stick to your hags and leave the young women to me.
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>>105783318
Amazing voice
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>>105783370
every time this dude posts
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>>105783443
skill issue
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i need an anime girl to fix me
I'm scareed
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Abuhh
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>>105783419
Shut up you old fuck, your glory days are over you’ll be using a cane before you know it
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I Love Lucy
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>>105783368
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these women bore me, guess ill become the president.
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It's amazing how little career whales know about processing fees and platform cuts. You'd expect them to know this shit
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I'm just anticipating sinder showing all her nipples in all forms and I won't feel bad for that however if she continues to tease on her first stream back I will become her strongest anti
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>>105783370
Does matara and heavenlyfather still collab?
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>>105783594
stfu
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Nyana is fucking dead
https://x.com/PhaseConnect/status/1981028311930118173
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>>105783450
>>105783483
zoomer pussy is my domain
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got my para hello :)
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>>105783678
what the fuck
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>>105783678
>graduated before the debut
Never saw that before
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>>105783690
I'm afraid the internet won't help you
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>>105783678
>>105783702
>>105783703
male holos are debuting on the same day so they're moving it and are bullshintg about it
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>>105783678
buh
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>>105783678
Erm
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>>105783714
But no one gives a shit about homostars?
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Shondo teaching chat about regional pricing and twitch discounts because she got $20k worth of subs but turned out it was only $8k
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>>105783416
I know who you are in chat. Added to the spreadsheet.
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>>105783735
phase cleary does
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>>105783736
>guys im actually poor give me more money
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>>105783678
Whoa
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>>105783678
She keeps leaking shit so they gave her the boot.
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>>105783678
she's already pregnant
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It will always baffle me how these bitches can be so stuck up and ungrateful. This 'Fallenshadow' character is running a scam subathon where her simps have given her tens of thousands of dollars, and she is on a tirade about not making enough money and complaining about banks, the government, twitch and others taking their cut. What the fuck is wrong with them?
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I wish phase connect blow up and they return mari to me
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>>105783714
But there’s zero overlap between the two, so why would they move it
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>>105783826
actually she did the math and you OWE her money
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>Shondo went to an accountant and they just told her she was already doing it the best she could
And she claims that her % of Jew DNA went down
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>>105783290
Cold hearted bitch
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>>105783830
She will never be the same
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>>105783826
Seething female
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>>105783756
Then they're retarded. The overlap between their audience is literally zero
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>>105783871
Another one... you poor bastard
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>>105783881
Pic related
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>>105783859
What stocks does she own?
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>>105783881
i wouldn't say shondo is seething, just greedy
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>>105783869
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I've never heard people complain as much about having to pay taxes as streamers do. Is it because they never had a proper job and so don't understand?
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>>105783826
She has mental illness
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>>105783894
>>105783902
Femanon...
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>>105783860
Draw her getting beaten with hammers
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>>105783678
they found the pantsu toggle pics
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>>105783714
They hired more homos?
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>>105783678
Who
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>>105783928
never had a job i guess
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>>105783928
You clearly have not seen how much I complain about doing taxes
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>>105783736
I should use a proxy to get that shit cheaper too
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>>105783932
blackjack...
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>>105783930
someone turn him blue
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>>105783736
I remember a subathon where the streamer begged one of the viewers to stop gifting because he was from russia and a sub was only worth a few cents, but he kept gifting hundreds of subs to keep the timer going
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>>105783989
based behavior
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>>105783839
do not try to make sense from /vt/ tier org that is cuck connect
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>>105783826
I ain't reading all that but I'm happy for you
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>>105783736
>she got $20k worth of subs
>but turned out it was only $8k
That's not how math works.
She got 8k worth, but thought it was all gifted by americans and now feel entitled to 20k
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>>105783989
lmao
like that guy who gifted a bunch of subs to lumi on yt with regional pricing with a name with something about her bf
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>>105783989
ultimate chad behavior
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>>105784020
>and now feel entitled to 20k
Now you're just making shit up kek
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I miss mari
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>>105783928
cause being self-employed with earnings from 5 different locations, probably none of them in your own country, is more complicated than just passing the prefilled forms from your employer along
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All of you are femanons in my books judging by your ability to deepthroat bait like a real goat throat
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>>105783736
Oh no, only eight thousand dollars. That must be so hard for her.
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>>105784018
>I ain't reading all that
ligga that shitpost is like 50 words
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Interesting things are happening on para's stream right now
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>>105784020
Its mostly because she egged chat in to donate during a treasure train and didn't realize the 35% discount comes out of her cut and wasn't just free money
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>>105784056
And none of them seem worth reading
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>>105784013
only applies to this one girl though
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>>105783928
reminds me of yoccis rant about german taxes / healthcare. she hated paying for healthcare she would "never use" anf the high tax rate so moved to switzerland
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>>105783913
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Who is better at sex, liggers or ligerwomen?
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>>105783826
When you buy a sub you like over half of it going to corpos and taxes instead of the chuuba you want to support?
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>>105784093
clearly had nothing to do with her affection for dogs
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>>105784093
She sounds retarded. She should have moved to the US, she'd fit right in there
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>>105784129
It doesn't just go to twitch for nothing, you pay for the sub badge
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>>105784129
sub cut is 70% and 100% for bits
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>>105784145
please stop having a melty, take your meds
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>>105784129
streamers could just set up their own site
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>>105784160
Just ignore them, they'll be spamming all day
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>>105784013
>/vt/ tier org
Do you mean 3am? or do you consider them /trash/? Their streams have been tough to watch recently because of all the pandering.
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I have never once seen a good post end with the word retard
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>>105784145
phase board
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>>105783871
poor bastard
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>>105783251
Which ligger is the most Sakura Kinomoto coded?
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para you can't show these pissing gifs
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Meat and Alice collab where Meat convinces Alice to talk about her feet
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I hope Layna dies from a pulmonary embolism
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>https://www.twitch.tv/laynalazar
Layna livezar with her new model debut
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>>105784209
Retard.
Yes. I like minimalism.
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Name five differences between vtubers and those Indian fake girlfriend scammers.
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>>105784250
Lilyhops
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should we remerge /lig/ and /big/
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>>105784250
Shondo
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>>105784295
Isn't big on life support? Just let them return organically
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>>105784265
Yeah I know you're not an indie you dumb fuck, meds now!
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>>105784312
they LOVE boxes
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>>105784180
lol irl have fun with bandwidth, CDN and transcoding costs. twitch and youtube do a lot of that in house and get bulk rates but still arent profitable
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i love layna!!!
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>>105784295
Should just merge us, big, xvsj and pcg and banish us to a mega general called wvt, the primordial soup
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>>105784337
you think you, but you don't
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>>105784333
if it fits, kitten sits
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>>105784276
lets us know if it's sexy
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>>105784145
Why did you include me? I was just asking if holo was dumb enough to hire more homostars because that other guy brought it up.
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>>105784295
thats down to others to post here
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>>105784334
What happened to project melody setting up her own streaming site with that one girl?
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>>105784295
We? Who is we?
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>>105784359
holo, 3am, phase, niji are all corporations. i hope this helps!
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>>105784351
i see you trying to sneak pcg in there shitter
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>>105784156
Wrong and wrong.
Twitch said 70/30 was unsustainable years ago. Most streamers get 50/50 splits and need to negotiate for more.
Twitch takes a 30% cut from all bits.
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>>105784390
>need to negotiate for more.
just be partner+
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>>105783714
they never learn, at least tell me theyre jp. Btw I miss Geega
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>>105784390
the bits cut is taken from the buyer at purchase, not when sent to the streamer
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>>105784359
Please ignore the Schizos, your post was fine.
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>>105784390
wrong
the bit cut comes from the person buying bits, bit 1 bit = 1 cent
every big streamer is partner++ anyway so they get 70/30
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>>105784295
merge with the few retards that shit all over lig for god knows how long until they eventually made a schizo split and still continued shitting in lig?
lol
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>>105784412
is she in BR again?
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>>105784378
We
plural in construction
1
: I and the rest of a group that includes me : you and I : you and I and another or others : I and another or others not including you —used as pronoun of the first person plural
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>>105783416
Explain.
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>>105784390
https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/plus-program
Hope this helps, any lig chuuba gets 70/30. bits split happens when you buy them, the streamer gets all the bits.
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>>105783891
>>105784246
Who hurt you, anon?
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>Postal 2
I will watch cum doll
https://www.twitch.tv/krumroll
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>>105784482
krumroll yay
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wiwiwiwi
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>>105784413
>>105784420
Yeah no shit, retards. The complaint was about half the money going to a corporate instead of your oshi. You're still giving half your shit to twitch instead of your oshi by using bits. The only benefit is 'chargeback protection'
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>>105784442
She's dating a BR whom she's giving lots of money to and is making these trips as her due diligence to see it's not just going to PS5s for all his homies
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>>105784334
YouTube is profitable now. While Twitch is still dragging its feet on improving transcoding options for everyone, they were supposed to release a more efficient option years ago.
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>>105784519
or you know this >>105784334 and everything else that comes with twitch
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>>105784482
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>BA Twitch drops
Oh shit
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>>105783714
Holostars isn't getting a new gen dude, fsp is but they have zero overlap since their fanbase is just women with zero attempts to appeal to dudes
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>>105784442
she fell for 'come to brazil' meme
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>>105784541
Or you could just send money directly to the streamer and not give any to twitch
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>>105784573
she said on stream she had a great time
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Mini won
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>>105784554
>BA T
>BAT
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>>105784554
>BA T
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>>105784442
this is one of the most retarded schizos around this place
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>>105783736
I have heard some people change their religion to some poorfag country that gets dirty cheap subs so they can donate a ton of subs to flex but cost them a tenth of what it'd cost them in the US or Europe
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>>105784525
is he her former mod who she left her husband for?
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>>105784585
sure, if everyone did that twitch would cease to exist and people would have to run their own streaming services that will cost them a lot more and give them a lot less in return
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>>105784589
That was just the stipulation for her getting to go home
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>>105784554
I don't know how Shondo can tolerate playing BA. I tried it once and it bored the crap out of me.
I will still however follow that one Asuna-focus twitter account. Yummy JK artwork...
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>>105784603
>>105784607
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>>105784617
that's rosedoodle
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>>105784519
Twitch:
Creates and maintains the biggest streaming platform
Employs thousands of people

Your oshi:
Just yabbing brainlessly into a mic
"Why am I not making more money?!"

Female "logic" in a nutshell.
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>>105784619
lol, lmao
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>>105784537
>YouTube is profitable now
And all it took was making even the most contented cud chewing normoid upset at how many ads they see
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>>105784589
as long as you never leave the hotel, it's a great place
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>>105784637
She's so pretty
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>>105784603
>>105784607
>BA Twitch
>BAT witch
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>>105784617
thats rosedoodle you ididoth, Geega has never been in a relationship because her dad named Tommy and 5 italian brothers all named Tommy chase off every man
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>>105784627
gacha games are perfect if you want something brain dead while yapping i guess
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>>105784641
Won't someone think of poor, poor Amazon? Jeff needs another yacht.
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>>105784670
clearly she just needs to find a man named Tommy
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>>105784670
+ she's bald
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>>105784641
bezos could sell one of his 10 yachts and Twitch would have enough money for everybody
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>>105784589
One of her mods is Brazilian btw
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>>105784614
>religion
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>>105784670
>>105784693
learn english nigger
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>>105784696
why isn't bezos just giving shondo a billion dollars?!?!
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>>105784670
They're not chasing off João tho
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>>105784641
chat is this real?
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>>105784678
>>105784696
>Screw the thousands of workers who build the infrastructure. My favorite e-thot needs another house.
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twitch streamers shouldn't be allowed to make money and also they should all be arrested
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>>105784724
He literally could and he wouldn't even notice it missing
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>Layna deleted her NSFW art channel

Guess she's gone full prude now with her new model.
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>>105784670
Only half true, the main reason is she's into shota
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>>105784735
Yes?
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>>105784724
because he is a cunt.
Shondo should ask his ex wife. Who is the richest woman on earth after she divorced him. lmao
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>>105784724
Good fucking question, now that you mention it
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>>105784743
shondo could give me money too but she won't >:(
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>>105784749
lmao
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>>105784747
what new model?
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Cool intro
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We need shortstack liggers.
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>>105784711
that religion - capitalism
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>>105784735
Yes, I'm fucking over thousands of workers, me. I'm Jeff Bezos, the guy with more than 250 billion dollars. Think of my poor workers, they won't be able to feed their children if you don't give me half of your oshi's income.
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umm, l-layna is live if that's ok...
https://www.twitch.tv/laynalazar
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>>105784804
lao gan ma to you fine sir
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Layna love
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>>105784819
no
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what if I don’t want to learn English
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That blood growth? Me baby, me
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>>105784838
too bad
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>>105784845
Can you crawl inside her ass and make a ruckus down there?
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>>105784844
learn mandarin
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>>105784819
That tshirt might be the most normal piece of vtuber merch I've ever seen
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>>105784813
All that money goes to Twitch employees and they in turn waste it on another e-bitch. That's how the economy works, kiddo.
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>>105784845
why does a fleshtuber invest so much money and effort into this?
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>>105784735
Sure why not, techfags have had it too good for too long
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>>105784471
Have some empathy for another anon that fell in love with Lina will you?
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>>105784891
That salty liquid isn't money trickling down
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>>105784912
nice
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>>105784912
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>>105784878
The hands one? Yeah I wish that kind of thing was more common
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hit every vtuber
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>>105784926
We just know what is coming
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>if freya buys a size medium, it fits her top but is baggy on the stomach
>if freya buys a size small, it fits her stomach but is too small for the top
s-soft bear...
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ididoth is english?
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Can't wait for the new POE season so I can watch my oshi SpicySushi
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>Getting choked by her own blood hand
Kinky
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>>105784845
I wish I could be a biohorror hivemind...
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>>105784955
Yeah it's pretty nice
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>>105784963
is that a penis in the Geega puppet?
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>>105784819
nah she is satanic, stay away
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>>105784972
>known RMT fag
we like mathil here
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>krum, a low fucKING 3view doesnt want to take ads out of principle and because she doesnt have to
>but shitlily ans griftervale need to do monthly merch drops and #ad stream spam
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>open krumroll
>meme model again
>close stream
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>Freya talking about clothing pricing and sizing options limitations
I feel bad for people who have big boobs (or just fat) and have a problem finding good-fitting clothes. But over the years, I've also witnessed plenty of clothing brands get flamed for making clothes all the same price despite smaller sizes being significantly less cloth, so skinny/people with small boobs are basically subsidizing affordability for the people who need a 2XL
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>>105785013
greed begets greed
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>>105785013
Then she'll die poor when the trend die out in a few years, her loss. Take the money when you can.
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That hand around Layna's neck?
Not me, but I wish it was.
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HOLY SEX
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https://x.com/MinikoMew/status/1981027772567785480 Mini back soon
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Layna getting ban
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>>105785053
That hand around her tit? Me.
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>>105785007
vtubing is p2w
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Good grief
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>>105784989
fingering chiwa while she tries to micro through the league wars
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>>105785092
Would
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Hey can we post rest on layna model since it just guts?
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>>105785089
Would be worth it desu. The model is amazing, and I can't wait for the fan art.

But yeah, she idled too long on the frame, so Twitch might throw a hissiefit.
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>>105785106
hot
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>>105785089
>>105785092
>>105785093
I shouldn't get close to this and attempt sex HOWEVER...
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>>105783214
FUCK
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>>105785092
Good ass proper gory model with those guts out, love it
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Layna is trying to dodge her collabs
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watching indies has only taught me that I'm the least funny and interesting guy even in a room full of twitch chatters and as such will never find love
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>>105785122
>all guts
>no womb visible
what a waste
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Well I hope they'll at least wait until she ends stream before banning her
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>>105785089
>>105785092
>>105785093
yea bye bye Layna
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layna's model is cool but i don't like her, she should give it to someone else
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>>105785122
Not really a new concept
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>>105785182
Don't be a cunt.
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>>105785092
The tubes are triggering my hemophobia...
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>>105785182
seethe 3ambitch
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>>105785197
This is a magnitude more detailed
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>>105785182
based
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>>105785178
in most cases I think they wait a day or so before banning so that the ban hits shortly before the streamer is about to go live again
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Not posting the mid because of jannie but some legs might be fine
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>>105785182
good luck, it doesn't apply to this
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>>105785220
*Sticks a silly straw in the blood pool and loudly slurps*
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>>105785182
>announcing a report
uh oh
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>>105785169
>no womb visible
already dried up
>>105785182
kek
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>>105785164
I thought so at first too, but I kept trying, and I eventually got better. It helps if you shift perspective and sometimes talk as if you were a content wingman, thinking from the streamers perspective.
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>>105785164
>he hasn't made his oshi laugh multiple times
Oof...
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>>105785164
Don't compare yourself to pro chatters, the irl equivalent is extraordinarily rare and has probably already gotten himself into extremely exclusive circles so you're even less likely to be in the same room
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>>105785234
If Vivi's underboob is too much for Twitch then I don't know how the pretty much fully exposed boob is okay
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>>105785164
you are the guy that spams om and kekw to my funny comments, congrats. maybe you can be one of those mass hello spammer chatters?
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>>105785205
this is a gay friendly thread
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layna should marry and get impregnated by me
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[KRUM NEWS]
She also throws away gifts from fans
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something about grape's new model's face is offputting to me, idk if it's the chin or the mouth.
also she really can't help herself from not spoiling stuff, she literally said 2 week ago she would hold on the new model until it was ready and there she is just flashing herself to everyone on her birthday
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>>105785291
Yeah i expect the tits to get her more than the gore
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>>105785182
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>model is dragged around by the hands up top
That's neat
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>>105785306
based, they're all covered in wiener germs
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>>105785287
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>>105785307
The flash fang with the normal fangs is a bit weird
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>>105785269
I made Bat laugh once and I'm still haunted by it
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I told you the guts would get you ban
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>>105785287
Wow that's actually fucked up if jannies deleted this
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>>105785259
what the fuck
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>>105785278
I like how the scar tissue around her mouth looks like she took a cumshot to the face before the blood hit her.
And now you can not unsee it.
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>>105785307
What does she think it is her birthday or something??
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>>105785307
Please say the right is the new one
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layna is just so boring, some new model won't change this, sorry
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you know I realized something...

the only thing that stops me from killing myself is women

they are angels on earth
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>>105785370
>>105785371
Jannies wouldn't be that fast, he self deleted
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>>105785401
women are also the only thing that makes you want to kill yourself
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>>105785376
I don't consume nearly enough porn for that but good try
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>>105785413
This Anon hates fun.
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>>105785401
the only thing that stops me from killing women is myself
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>>105785401
I like women they are small and also soft
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>>105785393
>t. claps like a retarded baby when meat pulls up the ten thousandth carpetbagger video
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>>105785401
Fair I guess
For me it's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8aFcHFu8QM
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>>105785182
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Laimu is laivu
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>>105785413
there's a few rules the jannies instantly jump on. for example the no pony outside mlp rule. the no guro outside of b rule is one of those
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>>105785467
retard
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>>105785444
i don't watch meat
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>>105785182
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>>105785437
So, you think that this is yogurth being mixed in with the blood at the bottom?
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>>105785482
newfag. post a pony and see what happens
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>>105785438
lucy and squ should collab on vr again and be total sluts for my amusement
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>>105785501
we know you are
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>>105784983
>>105785089
>>105785092
>>105785093
>red hands
Tomato?
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>>105785307
An issue vtubers seem to run into with new models over and over is not understanding that their appeal is cuteness. They get a model that attempts to be cool/mature/sexy, and it just feels wrong.
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>>105785309
>>105785454
>>105785488
I don't get it
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>>105785488
why is that one guy still smiling?
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>>105785485
cope
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https://www.twitch.tv/krumroll
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>>105785482
he is right. Once Lina had a small pony on screen and I got banned for that
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>>105785517
as in blood you know
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>>105785520
reddit post
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>>105785532
retard
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>>105785517
It blood..
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>>105785306
Bitch
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>>105785546
go on. post a pony
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>>105785520
Just take cute model and put dark circles under eyes, wa la, cool/mature/sexy AND cute
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>>105785443
for me it's women that are big and also hard
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What if milky slowly influences more and more chuubas to become softer and softer
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>>105785524
I think he's going for it slowly fading from his face kind of thing
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>>105785532
I made a filian dance soundpost once and bg had one and i got obliterated
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>>105785532
good, every ponig should be put to death. snuffy, mooni, cweamcat die die die
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gonna kill myself
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>>105785517
Yes. Other anons are just dense.
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>>105785565
>and also hard
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>>105785574
Stream it
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Liggerchads won
Phasecucks lost
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>>105785574
We all die
Why wait
Why rush
It is what it is
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>turned off notifications for recommended live category
>still get this
twitch pls
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shut up about Grape she will always be cute
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>>105785567
what if milky, fat mint and succuguts did a collab and had a triple massive heart obeseattack
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Good night saru

Good night lig
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>>105785574
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I’M NOT BUYING YOUR MERCH LAYNA, I DON’T CARE FOR GAMMERSUPPS
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Since soijak party is like 4chan, can you guys tell me what does "clitty leak" or "O algo" mean because they keep using those terms there but not here.
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>>105785604
watch chiwa
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>>105785467
It's nice knowing that the only rule they actively enforce hasn't been relevant in a decade
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>>105785564
>wa la
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>>105785539
If it were reddit it would be cooming over models that are mature or gender non-conforming.
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>>105785585
Reiyu's tits are insane on this model. I wish her balls were as fat.
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>>105785492
>yogurth
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>>105785613
They should do the 100 nugget challenge
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>>105785636
amazing isn't it?
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>>105785613
>what if milky, fat mint and succuguts did a collab and had a triple massive heart obeseattack while grinding my pelvis to dust
ftfy
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>>105785628
desu
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>>105785637
lurk 10,000 years
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>>105785604
That shit is so fucking retarded it's actually offensive
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>>105785614
Goodnight frogbro
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>>105785604
Same, I really hope my chuubas disable watch streaks too. They are just more clutter in the chat.
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>>105785353
maybe.
>>105785380
ikr, god forbid someone use both of her hobbies to relieve some stress off work.
>>105785381
not really, that's her current 3d one, which is based on meta ridley.
the new old is supposed to be a new look on her old adventurer outfit.
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people think that john vtuber will be the new barbie but i know its gonna be grape
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>>105785636
It really sums up the death spiral pretty well
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Well debuted over…back to para
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>>105785574
https://litter.catbox.moe/wx0rp2.mp4
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>>105785636
it's nice knowing you're retarded
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>krum using wifi
....
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>>105785720
What is wrong with her
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>>105785565
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>>105785642
reddit post
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>>105785752
Anon your aim
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The only new model I am looking forward to is Kuu’s
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>>105785747
oli is so perfect
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>>105785760
>Left
What a shit design
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>>105785760
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>>105785636
>hasn't been relevant in a decade
just like the rest of the site
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Layna sucks
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>>105785752
you still haven't posted a pony. go on and show us how retarded we are
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>>105785760
Why does this look worse than AI?
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>>105785747
Video too long, already in heaven
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krum saying hellos
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>>105785760
i said women not whatever the fuck that thing on the left is
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got my krum hello :)
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>>105785803
Tell her I said hello back!
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Cute cow live!
https://www.twitch.tv/milky
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>>105785777
what if it doesn’t have sovl
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>>105785747
THEN EXPLAIN THIS!!!!
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I cannot imagine liking a vtuber enough to watch and be entertained by a convention recap stream.
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>>105785747
i want that unlisted video of her sending praises to our birthday card
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>>105785747
Nobody is going to watch a random 10 minute clip with no context
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>>105785873
i think it's entertaining for young/underage people
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>>105785401
For me it's cowardice.
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>>105785205
>>105785293
>hemophobia
I was curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmvt7yFTtt8
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>>105785873
real shit
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>Layna's riggers were not up for the task and made her reconsider her artistic vision because it would be too much work
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kill all bugtubers
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>>105785857
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>>105785873
Me either
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>>105785914
not lyra please
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>>105785747
>I was just talking to Kitanya and then I was like sometimes you just gotta do it for them
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>>105785857
>>105785919
>>105785924
tabs
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>>105785914
nuh uh
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Why are the streams on Fansly so much better than the ones on Twitch or YouTube?
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Wait, that actually IS a nipple!
Layna is a little minx
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>>105785623
you know they have a wiki dedicated for that crap
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>>105785935
my nitya
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why is miwa evil today?
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>>105785914
All the ones that matter are already gone
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>>105785747
I can't help but hear this as her being sarcastic
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>>105785891
This is lig, yes they will
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>>105785905
Layna is such a cunty bitch
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>>105785965
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Why did milky calling us “a big boy” make me aroused
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>>105785977
yes. and that is really hot
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>>105785971
Yeah I hear that whenever Oli speaks
She belittles chat so often that trying to be nice just comes off as hollow
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>>105785971
i am so sorry anon but that's on you
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>>105785760
>Left
what a good design
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>>105785949
>fansly lets you goon but not do drugs
>twitch lets you do drugs but not goon
they both suck
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Thank you for pandering to my interests, Layna! The choking hand is a nice touch
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>>105786009
Fucking male loving piece of shit
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>>105785949
because you need to kill yourself simon
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is oli always that much of a sweetheart?
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>>105786036
yea
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>>105786036
yes she grifts all the time
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>>105786036
yes. unless she bans a chatter
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>>105786030
We like Aethel here
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>>105786036
it's no coincidence that you could find her watching tanya pretty often
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>>105786053
>sister is so jaded she thinks being nice is grifting
pathetic
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>>105786001
No, I hear it too. Everything she says sounds condescending. She talks down to chat like they're stupid children. She says a lot of nice things but they rarely feel genuine.
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>>105785630
>She is swimming with the fishes right now
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>>105786036
Yes
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/lig/gers for this feel?
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>>105786096
got eaten by a crocodile!
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>>105786074
/xvsj+/ is two blocks down
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>>105786105
leaflit
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>>105785949
Fansly is actually dog shit, they are actually much more prude than twitch considering they're supposed to be a porn site but 90% of adult content isn't allowed
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>>105786083
the mark doesn't think theyre a mark!
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>>105786105
liggerman
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>>105786105
half the posters itt
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kuu has so few twitch followers wtf
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>>105786105
literally every single one of them with their 'mental health problems'
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>>105786125
I'm in the right place
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>>105786137
she should get married to me and have my children
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>>105786105
Bao
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>>105786130
fansly is the pg 13 version of of after all
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>>105786138
You can just say the chudtubers
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>>105786105
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>>105785759
she's wide
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>>105786137
She has a good viewer follower ratio
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there should be more ray rabenstein liggers (cute boys that are actually girls)
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>>105786130
I'll avoid Fansly until the day a vtuber streams Ravager
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>>105786175
>mindbroken
nobody cares about your political bullshit, all vtubers are retarded and get angry at shit in their head
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>>105786105
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>>105786186
>cute boys that are actually girls (boy)
>>
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>>105786138
so anny?
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>>105786210
boys that are girls that are actually boys (girls)
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i want to have backbreaking sex with nimi nightmare until it makes me into a retard
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>>105785182
>yea bye bye Layna
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>>105786208
your use of that term suggests you care about his or her political bullshit
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full nelson alice sex with ray licking my butthole send post
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>>105786241
Who's back is being broken?
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>>105786126
Let's check what she's been up t-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH0IVHLPyDc
oh
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god, why my wife must suffer so?
https://x.com/LucyPyre_/status/1981055769140236746

>TL;DR: Streams will continue, but with less predictable schedules. I’m traveling a lot off-stream to visit sick family, so I may be more tired than normal. All I ask for is kindness and understanding of schedule changes/unpredictability during this time.
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>>105786208
>mindbroken
Yes their minds are completely broken
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>>105786247
I implore you to give the send post format a rest
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>>105786205
what are you on about
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Liggers for this feel
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>>105786266
excuses
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can any brit explain what kind of dialect miwa has?
posh english? poor english? norf english?
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>>105785182
it's bye bye for like .0002 seconds until she gets unbanned because well you know
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>>105786298
milky and me but I’m the younger one
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>>105786300
obese english
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Juna Work Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeHv1QoBbPw
https://www.twitch.tv/junaunagi
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>>105786298
what the fuck

she is a babe however
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>para is french
>para is asian
is there anything else i should know?
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>>105786298
Layna when she finally kidnaps some random teenage boy
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>>105786266
poor Lucy I hope grandma can go into super remission
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>>105786261
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>>105786266
I wish I could hug her
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>>105786298
just realized im older than the white house press secretary
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>>105786298
Emmanuel Macron
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>>105786266
I wish nothing but the best for her and her grandma
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>>105786266
This is sad man. She loves her grandma.
I can relate to her pain and hope that the treatment will be successful.
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I wish they had steam charts but for chuubas
>You’ve recorded 300 hours, last watched October 7th
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>>105786300
Polish English
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>>105786298
>59 year old real estate developer goombah
Pretty good bet, she could be free for much of her dirty thirties
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>>105786361
yo das my birthday
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>>105786370
Slut
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>>105786327
para is brown
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>>105786327
She’s really funny and cute but I think she’s a lesbian
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>>105786300
Polish
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>>105786398
but she has a bf
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>>105786361
twitch kinda has that already
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>>105786327
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only letting para give me blowjobs since i dont want to get an infection from giving her a creampie. eventually resorting to spitting out the cum and stuffing it inside to get pregnant.
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>>105786346
You should become the press secretary for your oshi
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This blue girl has like 20 viewers no one watches her no one knows her stop self posting
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https://files.catbox.moe/wj9s7y.jpeg
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ray blowjob while eating alice out as she sits on my shoulders posted from my iphone
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>>105786436
anon…
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>>105786361
There are bots that do that, you type a command in chat and they spit out your total watch time and first watch date
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>halo is moving to chzzk
>they just killed ASMR last week
shes not that dumb, right?
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>>105786324
Babe? She is vile.
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>>105786226
Broner nooooo you're gonna get cooties!
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>>105786322
what are these work streams even? does she have a wfh day job?
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my melty senses are tingling
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>>105786298
I have a liggerman for the feel and he is me
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>>105786436
She has 0 viewers because she isn't live you retard
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Why does it suddenly feel like half the posts itt were written by women?
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>>105786476
the fuck is a chzzk?
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>>105786476
I can't even watch streams on chzzk because of their retarded account shit
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>>105786522
there are femanons among us why do you think
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>>105786497
Based post nut clarity chatter
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>>105786522
That's because you're an incel
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>>105786476
Her managers make the decision don't forget she is under an agency
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>>105786497
>3 years ago
who cares
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Anny schizo's been having a melty
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>>105786522
You probably forgot to take your morning meds and it's now hitting
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>>105786298
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>>105786560
Why can't anons just be normal?
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>>105786560
yeah anny is happy now she's over it
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>>105786522
not half but a good third
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Female ephebophilia is out of control my high school principal was in her forties and dating guys half her age just out of college. Props to her I suppose she had the self control to not jump on some 15 year old student like the rest of them.
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>>105786497
she hated him because he spoke the truth
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>>105786533
korean streaming
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DAY 293 OF SUBATHON
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>>105786522
Every terrible post is made by a vtuber
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>>105786266
>I’m traveling a lot off-stream to visit sick family
Dyrbi?
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>>105786497
She should have unbanned my nigga Qwerty, he was one of the last real ones
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>>105786537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuW3EJIhIeM
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>>105786560
Why the fuck would you message a mod about 4chan and risk an instant ban?
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>>105786577
shes so over it that she brings it up constantly
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>>105786266
uh huh sick family
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>>105786581
That restraint is how she became the head honcho
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>>105786560
om
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>>105786621
His goal is to harass
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>>105786621
To warn the streamer about what's being said about her here
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>>105786621
She just said they've been doing that shit for months, so obviously no risk of ban for whatever reason.
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>>105786560
least retarded schizo lmao
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>>105786555
Her managers are fucking retarded. She'll barely get any viewers on chzzk.
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>>105786476
she's a complete fuckup letting her life be controlled by a company

promisu is the same way, but at least sera's asmr is good and not full of yapping
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>>105786266
Losing your loved ones is the hardest thing in the world, and the anxiety of knowing you'll eventually part with them is soul crushing. I hope Lucy has good people in her life she can lean on for support. And I hope the treatment works well and results in the best possible outcome.
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>>105786581
Ok? That's based I'm the same for young women
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>>105786649
You really think vtuber mods aren't here?
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>>105786560
imagine being rejected by one man and going into this much of a spiral over it
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>>105786644
Good image
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>>105786606
I believe there will be a single visit to meemaw and nothing more, but that is my cynicism talking
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>>105786577
i'm happy that anny is so over it that she definitely isn't having a mental health crisis over it, or that she is so over it that she is staying professional and continuing to work on neuro
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>>105786677
Anny schizo is gay?
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>>105786578
There's a higher percentage of women to men /here/ than in any other vtuber chat, lol.
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I still miss Nino
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>>105786560
Mini won
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>>105786661
>Her managers are fucking retarded
I mean, yeah? They also put all the limiters on her and make her turn most of her vods private on Twitch.
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>>105786691
schizzy schizzy in a tizzy
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>>105786649
Why would anyone ever need to know what retards are saying about them
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>>105786644
level 1 autistic grunt vs level 100 autistic Boss.
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>>105786602
This
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>>105786709
Wow this awesome
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>>105786661
its to help shill their korean neuro
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>>105786704
that too but i was more talking annie constantly talking about it and giving people like him more attention
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>>105786677
Huh? Who rejected the anon? One of Anny's mods?
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>>105786709
Holy fucking small and sex
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>>105786266
I am not a part of chatty, but Lucy, I wish you and your grandma the best!
Fuck cancer with a brick
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>>105786734
>retards
Speak for yourself. I'm a respectable member of society.
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>>105786602
liggers who grudge post about their closest friends on the basket weaver forums?
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>>105786755
She is a woman. But it has gotten somewhat better over the years. You used to be able to oneguy her by making a single pretty tame post very reliably
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>>105786737
...ornj
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I have genuinely never heard of chhzk once in my entire life
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>>105786756
anny got rejected by vedal
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>Lucy using the excuse of visiting her "sick family" to not stream
Yeah, she's took time off to get some dick from her boyfriend
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she sounds like such a dork I want to put her in a headlock and give her a noogie
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>>105786783
>respectable member of society
>posts here
lmao
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>>105786803
It's Korean Twitch after the Korean government forced a monopoly in their country
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>>105786677
>>105786756
can't believe Anny's head mod rejected anon and anon went schizo... love is crazy
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Do we have a mushroom ligga? I know Para's friend Kikitchiwi or whatever has shrooms growing on her hair, but she's a trash panda I believe.
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>>105786802
Thank you Anny, the vitamins and juice will help sustain me
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>>105786756
Her last stream was her explaining she caught feelings for Vedal but he didn't and then because it was awkward after that, they effectively stopped working together instead
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>>105786644
I would feast on both of these women's pussies until my mouth was sore
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>>105786825
Damn, based
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>>105786857
doesn't fat people smell bad?
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>>105786811
But that image clearly shows that an anon is having a meltdown, not Anny.
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>>105786853
I still can't believe that anny couldn't just keep it professional, and instead had a half a year melty over it. Grim
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>>105786870
lol esl
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>>105786870
>immediate esl seethe post
can't make this shit up
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>>105786756
what a retard. anny got her sexual advances rejected by vedal or something. isn't she a decade older than him?
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>>105786872
I"M NOT HAING A MELTDOWN
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https://x.com/stalkeralker/status/1981004573633564954?t=VvKSTyE4NWn8t2oNq3ixPA
is Alker the strongest ligger
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>>105786899
t. anny
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>>105786266
If you can't open the tweet
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>>105786492
School work. She's in her last semester I think.
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>>105786917
I don't get it
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>>105786917
she will never be japanese
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Guys, Anny is not having a melty. She's over it.
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>>105786802
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>>105786835
Gillie Amanita
https://x.com/GillieAmanita
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Pands (Piller hands) on display. There’s a lot of good chuuba hands but Piller has some of the most holdable hands I’ve ever seen
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>>105786931
Do we really need a trigger warning because of the word cancer?
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>>105786968
literally never seen this ligger before
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>>105786963
Ok but she DID have a private melty
and that's not ok
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>>105787000
There was a guy who used to post a few soundposts of her
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>>105786931
lucy should marry me
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>>105786994
Lucy is part of the woke crowd that need trigger warnings for everything
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>>105786853
ackshually, there was someone else you obsessed schizo
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>>105787000
newfag
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>>105783339
If she talks about shit again I'm going to shit my pants
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*grabs para by the hair and smashes krum to a pulp using para as a mallet*
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>>105787020
>got cucked twice
you can't make this shit up
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>>105787020
Well I don't know if the other guy is causing a melty or not do I?
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>>105787050
he isn't
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>>105787011
Why are you so weird
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>>105787020
yeah you totally moved on
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>>105786853
all she had to do was lose weight
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Is Anny ugly? Why is it so difficult for her to get a guy?
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>>105787020
imagine if anny got rejected again
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shut the fuck up about your gay drama
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>>105787077
ugly, fat, mentally ill
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>>105787077
she's fat
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>>105787058
VEDAL I AM OVER YOU LEAVE ME ALONE
*brings this shit up a year later while you are gone with your new bitch*
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>>105787082
>if
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>>105787093
don't sign your posts
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>>105787100
>>>/vt//swarm/
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>>105787077
anny is fat and prone to mental breakdowns, i think anyone that wants a stable life would stay away from a relationship with her desu
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>>105787086
tits too big
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>>105787000
She's a 2view and doesn't stream anymore so that makes sense
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>>105786994
Imagine that being the part you get upset about.
>tw: tw
Just for (You)
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>>105787070
She did but afterwards
https://streamable.com/35ruaj
Based tutel giving her a wakeup call
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/swarm/pags not sending their best today
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>>105787077
fat
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>>105787117
blow your brains out annyfaggot
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>>105787077
She's an Eastern European foreigner in Japan
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>>105787146
lmao hit the nail on the head
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>>105787134
she's still fat
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this anny vedal drama is so boring i yearn for sinder posts again
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>>105787132
Instead of, what? The cancer? Grandma?
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>>105787136
who are you whiteknighting for bro, nobody ever talks about anny here.
>inb4 the avatarfag
lol
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>>105787136
Mini cute
>>
how do you even stay fat in japan
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>>105787086
I’m gonna feed the busty, tanned Para sloppa through AI and make slop videos
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>>105787146
Guilty as charged I see
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>>105787096
da miki rolls off the tongue well
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chiwa is my tizzy oshi
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Today, I will remind them.
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>>105787096
Yes
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>>105787176
This but some pakistani computer nerd??
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>>105787117
>>105787136
are you still sending these posts to the anny mod?
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>>105787199
oh oof! not a good look for you /swarm/fags
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>>105787199
ligger for this?
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>>105787047
>>105787082
>>105787020
>>105787093
back to your containment shithole you go
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>>105787222
ywuria
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>>105787222
anny
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>>105787173
/swarm/pags will keep timelooping it because they don't know of any vtubers that exist that don't interact with vedal, they're very desperate for drama
>>
Layna should use those floating hands to spread her holes
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>>105787199
>shonbaker is helping his buttbuddy
the deicord has been pinged
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>>105787230
oh nonononon! vedalcucks, our response?
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>>105787136
>>105787229
>>105787240
why are you so obsessed
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>>105787222
>>
>denmark bans social media for under 15 year olds
>krum gone
wwyd?
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>>105787230
Goodness gracious, who could have guessed
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>>105787264
Move to Denmark
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mini cute
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>>105787307
>>105787307
>>105787307
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>>105784250
>>
30 alices
60 feet
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>>105787306
This kind of melty is so weird, does he think it works?
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>>105787264
why did krum end stream already
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>>105787264
How do we keep existing in this krumless world, what's the point
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jannies dont like fat bitches :(
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>>105786298
all of them
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>>105787322
I don't think the schizos really care if anyone believes their shit. If they weren't shitting on Anny it would just be another chuuba. They cycle constantly throughout the day.
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>>105787379
anny is fat
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>>105787379
yarr ye be goin down to the briny depths forever for ya mutiny, such be the power of the janny!



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