So moving from en to jp was a wise move in the end.
holoslop and fastfoodslop, a match made in heaven
>>105810101>>105810238The choice of the evil sister.
>>105810101Yummy slop
>>105810101At least they're not hiding that they sold out and went full CONSOOM anymore, that's the biggest positive I can take away from this
Yes, it was the only way they were going to get paidIt does mean I only remember they exist when they show up for collabs though, but I feel bad for their EN fans the most
>>105810488>they're not hiding that they sold outIsn’t the sole purpose of corpo vtubing is to raise popular anime girls and then make them sell and advertise everything?
>>105810101honestlyfamichiki mogs
>>105810563>I feel bad for their EN fans the mostSame! I mean, *one* of the 9 streams this week is a JP collab??? What the fuck are they thinking? They clearly HATE HoloEN (pls ignore all the EN collabs in the schedule)
>>105810563If you're a JP watcher, at least you only get shitty schedules that you're used to for most holos. EN fans got rug pulled fucking hard. I didn't oshi them in their golden era, but I did watch them often, now it just sucks. My oshi is Patra and I have to get reminded of them almost every stream because she's obsessed with them, I wish I could forget like you
>>105810974discord kids got nothing else against them pls andastand
>>105810974>1 week vs 1 yearIf this was their normal schedule I wouldn't say a word against them
>>105810993TRVKE! They literally never stream in English nowadays! >>105810974Oh, wait...
>>105810827If you're a new vtuber fan, sure man
>>105810563Total EOP death
>>105810974They want to be angry because FWMC and wuffians are happy so they'll find a reason even if they have to make it up
>>105810101I couldn't begin to express how little I give a shit about this. My interest is actively being sucked out of my body with how much I really don't give a fuck.
>>105810827They aren't popular. Not anymore.
>>105811275Well, relatively they are still top dogs, just not total sensation like shortly after debut. Twins gimmick had a lifespan, and they made some decisions that annoyed a part of her fanbase. But they are still popular, and at least among JP they became mascots.
>>105811020You want 1 year? I'll give you 2 years; they've done 60 JP streams and JP collabs on their channel since debut, and they've done around 750 streams on their channel in total. Now do the math.
>>105811408So like 150 of that is gonna be FWMC morning, that makes 10% of their streams JP, and then there are all the other collabs outside of their channel. Plenty of streams where they just had split PoV, inflating the numbers of total streams.
>>105811408Where are the JP buttons on the calculator??
>>105811465>that makes 10% of their streams JPSo that's 1/10, right? That's actually less than what they are doing this week (1/9), and as you said before:>If this was their normal schedule I wouldn't say a word against them
>>105811635Disingenuous. JP collabs on other channels would still make it into the schedule, also several situations where they would cancel an EN stream, but then guerilla join a JP stream instead of resting. That stuff is why their JP activity is often a hot topic in the first place.
>>105811351It wasn't the twin gimmick that died off imo, it was the strict adherence to playing 1 dimensional characters with some obnoxious characteristics and performative fakery that sunk their popularity. People got bored and/or annoyed.They could've easily been the face of EN since Gura left if they just found that balance of genuineness so viewers could bond with on a more personal level, and acting. Less Luna, more Pekora.Alternatively they can have sex on stream. Id come back and watch that
>>105811570It's an exclusive button on the calculators shitposters use, and it multiplies the number of JP streams by a thousand, so in their eyes FWMC haven't done 60/750 streams in japanese, they've done 60,000/750 streams in japanese.
>>105811765>balance of genuineness and actingThis. The cutesy acting Holos need to learn from Korone, she has this balance down the best.
>>105811465>So like 150 of that is gonna be FWMC morningI didn't know FWMC morning was in japanese... Are you not counting them because they are short? Should we also stop counting all their short JP solo streams and collabs they've done? There's quite a few of them that are only 1 hour long
>>105811812STOOOOOOP RUINIIIING NARRAAAAATIIIIVEEEEEEEEE
>>105811812I'm not counting them because they are VERY short, and half the runtime is spent on intro/outro/stock stuff, and the rest is shilling. If you are so desperate to count them as "streams" as we understand them, be my guest, but we all know no one is really treating them as such.You also deflected from everything else I mentioned btw
Love me dogs. Love me chicken. Smiling dog dissolves hatred for massive companies..... Shit... Advertising is working..
>>105812088Okay okay, relax! We won't count them then. But then I also won't count most of their solo JP streams because they are short and formulaic (a lot of them are just q&a or variations of it, or boring JP zatsu recaps of what they've been doing in the past months, and they use them to shill things like holoearth or their merch) and some of their collabs have double POV. Also, sorry... You know the "60 JP streams in their channel" thing I said? Well, it was wrong. There's like 6 or 8 of them that weren't actually JP streams and they are more like bilingual EN+JP streams, some of them have even more English than japanese. Oops.If we apply these changes then there's like 20 of those 60 JP streams that shouldn't count as real JP streams, so the real number is not 60, it's 40.
>>105810974until they cancel another en stream to make more room for the jp one
>>105812407Whatever lets you sleep at night.
>>105812503I accept your concession.
>>105812503So you're admitting defeat because you have no argument? Nice
At some point I went from making sure to watch every stream to basically only looking at them during collabs. A switch flipped for me where every tine I would watch, they just felt like a facsimile of a person, specifically a Japanese person. Ad money is ad money and this is a job at the end of the day, but you're not supposed to make me feel like it is during actual streams.
>>105812407>150% of FWMC streams are in EnglishNOOOOOOO MY NARRATIVE
Funny everyone is screaming about Japanese when they spent a quarter of their collab with Shiori, an EN talent who doesn't know Japanese, during an NA primetime stream, speaking Japanese to a largerly EN audience.
>>105812683Did you time them with your stopwatch?
>>105810101>GoGoNippon girls went to Nippon>People supposed to be upset about it
>>105812696No, but a majority of the time they'd either lead with Japanese or end with Japanese before moving on to another snack.
>>105812735The Japanese snacks they were talking about at their offcollab in Japan?
>>105812733MedsFor one thing, the colours aren't right.
>>105812750I think you might be insane
>>105812816Well, yeah, but what's that got to do with anything? They let me go home from the hospital as long as I said I'd take these little pills every day.
>>105810101FWMC won.Ruffians won.Hololive won.Sisters lost.
>>105812696NTA, but I checked. They spoke in JP a lot of times during the collab, but they didn't do it for long, and they translated it after/or were simply repeating things they already said in EN for the JP tourists in chat. It was definitely not "a quarter of the collab".
>>105812864Alright fag, let me put it like this>EN talent>Doing EN collab with another talent who doesn't know Japanese>Push her to read the packaging>Quarter of the time they just start talking in Japanese about the candy, not just saying the name>Mostly EN fans watching at a prime time for a lot of EN fans>Majority don't know JapaneseI thought it was really funny when they made a joke about Shiori losing some fans over an extremely Japanese cultural thing (war over the mushroom candies) like even a tiny fraction of the viewers would know or care.
>>105812948Speaking Japanese? At an offcollab in Japan? An offcollab specifically about trying and tasting various Japanese snacks with their genmate?>AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIII SAVE ME NIGGERMAN
>So moving from en to jp was a wise move in the end.Always was.
>>105813016This is not a problem with "EN audience" but specifically "female kpop adjacent audience" though
>>105812995What does any of that have to do with the fact that they're EN talent speaking to a large majority of EN fanbase who doesn't know Japanese, including the member that was sitting with them in the room and apparently the manager who was helping them? Did they speak a good chunk of Japanese during the offcollab in Japan singing mostly Japanese songs with EN talent?
>>105813060>why would two talents who can speak Japanese do so at an offcollab that is specifically about getting their genmate to try Japanese snacksDo you actually think about these things before you post them, or is your excuse for a brain running on autopilot?>and apparently the manager who was helping them>the manager who was helping themSo you're just a shitposter who didn't watch the stream? kek
>>105813060>the manager who was helping themYou dumb fucking tranny KEK... The "manager" was Nerissa, thanks for exposing yourself as a threadreader.
>>105813250>>105813245Sure I didn't. That's why I remember Mococo saying she'd rather eat more of the hot onion-ring shaped chips than have the natto candy or that Nerissa ate oppai-ice cream with them. We'll ignore that they specifically said Nerissa was sleeping right around that time and then said manager. Why they'd refer to her as manager and Nerissa basically withing the same 5 minute chunk, I don't know but it's believable.
>>105813315>doubling down instead of just admitting you're a threadreading schizoNice job hurriedly skipping through the timestamps to try and find something, kekWhile also deflecting by completely ignoring what the original conversation was about (speaking JP)! Do they give you sisters lessons in how to shift goalposts so rapidly?
>>105813425>Skipping aroundEat my ass you stupid faggot. You wouldn't accept any form of answer even though both of those things happened extremely far apart, you just want to win your gay argument that it somehow makes sense for them to speak Japanese a chunk of the time for the tourists (a small minority of viewers) in the chat
Why can't I get 2 chicken strips for less than 2 bucks at my McDonalds like Japan has?>>105813473
>>105813473Nigger I'm making fun of you for being wrong about something extremely obvious that anyone who watched the collab would have known, which makes you either a threadreader or a legit schizophrenic, and then doubling down on it like a gigaretard instead of just accepting you were wrong.Alright, I'll bite. How is it unreasonable for two bilingual talents, who are streaming an offcollab in Japan about tasting Japanese snacks, to speak some Japanese? I also note that originally it was "a quarter of their collab" and now it's only "a chunk", KEKWhat are you going to shift those goalposts to next, >AIIIIII TWO SECONDS OF JAPANESE I'M GOING INSANE>you just want to win your gay argument>n-not me though, I keep responding because I'm rightThis is an anonymous board for a reason, faggot. Just accept that you're wrong and move on, I'm not gonna follow you to your next retarded thread
If you, as a fan, care about consuming more product sure. Otherwise not really.For them, it was the best option all around.
>>105813510InflationThanks, osama
>>105813627It was a quarter of the collab, chunk is a generic statement saying 'a good amount'. I didn't even make this thread. At the end of the day, stuff like this (the main point of the thread) is good for their wallet and their exposure to JP and means jack-all for anyone outside of Japan unless you're insanely invested in how much money they make.
>>105813676>It was a quarter of the collabObjectively not true.
>>105813676>It was a quarter of the collabDemonstrably untrue. Thanks for playing, better luck next time.>I didn't even make this thread.So you chose to come here and say something retarded and wrong for what reason, exactly?
>>105811075>If you're a new vtuber fanYeah, new. Like Kizuna AI new.
>>105813801The Nissin curry song was kino>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QJD9iekpDQ
>>105810238>I can't afford fast food so I'll call it a slopjust say you're brown and poor.
>>105813778To talk about how it was a good decision for their wallet and exposure to JP to move to Japan even if it personally made their streams/on stream personality less human for me. That secomd post that spawned this whole reply chain really set you off. It just made me laugh that shitposters were trying to pretend they do JP streams and speak Japanese all the time when they (FWMC) don't really do that much JP content while also not mentioning a stream where it should have had very little to no Japanese that had 25% Japanese from them.Feel free to go back to your shit thread though. You know, the one where no one actually wants to talk about the streams outside of streams where they can pretend to be their boyfriends.
>>105810101do the japs get a little fuwawa or mococo toy in their happy meal?
>>105813909Stop shitposting and take your hormone pills getter
>>105813909Holy kek, are you the same seething retard from yesterday? Absolutely and positively mindbroken if true.Nothing "set me off", by the way. Me and that other guy have been making fun of you for being a drooling retard this entire time, no need to pretend.>that had 25% Japanese from themAnd I'm sure you'll be able to provide evidence for this claim aaaaaaaaany second now.
>>105814030Sure buddy. We'll also ignore the fact that stuff like the CCGG had a little over 10 posts talking about the collab (5 of which were me), until the fag brigade showed up and spammed the fuck out of the thread with anything but discussion of the stream. Just admit you're a mentally ill retard.
>>105810101god I want some crispy fucking fried chicken tenders right now god daaaaaaamn
>>105814097>no delivery>deflects to something else yet againheh
>>105812733>5 5 japan???
McDonalds wonHololive wonFWMC wonEach and every one of us wonBau Bau
>>105810101do they still act like they have brain damage? i wish they'd go back to reviewing eroge but unfortunately that doesn't make them money
>>105812439Good, ENfags don't deserve nice things. Try t enjoy your collab with Shioretard though.
>>105811275>>105811765Are you guys retarded?
>>105812683>check the /baubau/ archive>no jpschizos melting downIf /baubau/ wasn't having melty you're full of shit.
>>105813909>made their streams/on stream personality less human for meAre you racist? What is less human about speaking Japanese?