>>105895186
yes

Unless you're underage, the chances are high!

>>105895186
Yes. I found out she was swedish and left immediately.

This thread will be raided hard by phasecucks and Nijisisters. Expect 300+ posts of discarded anti Holo rrats.

>>105895186
there's a few I quit watching in disgust

>>105895186
I hate this shit. First I was a shigga, and then I went to Fauna and Nimi. I thought Shiori was legitimately just a weird, sad girl who was glad to have found her place in life but NAH the fucking bitch just had to go off and flip out at us and betray everything she'd built up. Then I thought that I can just relax and enjoy Fauna being a goofy girl with a nice voice. I wasn't really affected by the saplingcide since I was new to her and it was obvious that she'd come back and I was having fun watching Nimi but NAH she just had to release the LLD to remind me that I'm a miserable, unlovable loser who has nothing in my life and there's not a single woman on Earth who understands it and they won't even pretend to be nice. I hate my fucking life.

>>105895837
Shiori warned about collab choices.

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>>105895998
She wasnt clear enough, she should have started the debut giving sloppy toppy to her boyfriend.

>>105895837
Bro got NTR twice first in the Shiori Bricks flips Jurard collab, then Fauna flip fiancé. Man can’t catch a break; straight outta the frying pan and into the fire.

Fauna broke my heart. I forgive her but I’m never going gachi for a chuuba again

>>105896538
Why are people so convinced she’s marrying a phillipino?

No, the mere idea of that is absurd, but I did get a bit pissed at korosan for playing so much SF 6, it being such an awful and boring SF game but that's about it.

>>105895837
If your oshi is now CC then you’re retarded and going for a triple

>>105896615
They don’t know…

Yes. This is why I'm ronin.

>>105895837
>Shiori
Thats 100% on you retard she warned you

>>105896615
Because she got doxxed 2 years ago and she was living in the same address as a Filipino, a rocket scientist if you believe it. I guess it could be a misunderstanding and he was the landlord, or something, also there's a possibility that she broke up with the flip and Mr. Nightmare is a new guy.

>>105895186
Yes. I even got an oshimark tattoo, now I have to do a blackout. >>105898109 is right, it’s the best way to move along

>>105895837
>I thought Shiori was legitimately just a weird, sad girl who was glad to have found her place in life
Always do your research kids.

>>105898109
Same. Still, part of me hopes to find someone, then the other part is calling me a fucking retard.

>>105898439
And here I thought 4chan always claimed that Filipinos are unattractive and wouldn’t be able to find women who like them back.

I won’t trust 4chan again; their narratives broke my heart.

>>105899027
She has a thing for Asian stem nerds. 1st bf was a Chinese software engineer, kind of ugly. Most women aren't like that though.

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>>105899027
>And here I thought 4chan always claimed that Filipinos are unattractive
they are

A vtuber can't break your heart. You do by lying to yourself about having a relationship with her.

>>105899131
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>>105895186
She is breaking my heart by being so intriguing yet not dating me

>>105895837
They ain't going to live like nuns for your sake anon. They're in their late 20's or early 30's by now and their ovaries are starting to ache something fierce. And if they have the social skills and personal courage to be vtubers in the first place, then you can bet your ass that they are also socially capable off-stream. So you better get used to it and improve yourself in the meantime, or you just give it all up right now, because you will be dissapointed every single time if you continue like this. Sorry, but that's just how it is.

>>105900051
Holos have hypergamy debuff though.

>>105895186
All of them. Now I just objectify women and I'm way happier.

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>>105895837
Do you get upset when you discover that an actress performing a role in some doesn't live the same life irl too? Isn't it obvious that Vtubers are playing a role? They're being paid to play a role. They're actors, anon. Grow the fuck up and move on.

>>105895577
I feel this. finding out she was the wrong skin color destroyed me

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>>105895837
This is pasta, r-right?

>>105895186
3 of them
1st wasn't so bad I just hate her
2nd I still like her for some weird reason and her voice is sex
3rd completely broke me again after fixing me
4th is the charm :D

>>105895186
Yeah. She taught me none of these bitches deserve commitment.

>>105895186
No, I don't engage with vtubers like that

>>105900533
>Isn't it obvious that Vtubers are playing a role? They're being paid to play a role
and they can't even to that so what now?

>>105900582
do you want it to be?

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>>105895186
Not heartbroken but i was let down, turns out her personality was just a character and in reality she's just another money hungry degenerate.

>>105900615
Do you have a contingency 5th?

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>>105900909
that's why I trust Lumi (This is a joke post)

>>105901081
turn into a hermit and wait for AI improvements

I'll give you my story OP
>January of this year
>Meet an indie vtuber through a mutual vtuber friend
>She is an artist and is trying to make a living off it or something, she's not very good at art
>I am an artist too so I draw her with huge boobs
>She loves it and immediately slides into my DMs
>One thing leads to another
>She sends me a video of her fondling her boobs
>We start VC'ing every day, saying good morning and good night to each other, she sends me audios saying she likes me a lot
>A month passes by
>On valentine's day I ask her "what are we"
>She's gets uncomfortable and tries to pussyfoot around the question, giving me unclear answers
>Ultimately she doesn't want to commit to anything because she doesn't feel ready yet and tells me not to feel down because she still really likes me a lot
>Take it on the chin and just continue with our status quo
>March, April and May come about, happiest I've been in a while
>15th of May, VC'ing with a friend that knew her
>Shes comes up as a topic
>Friend reveals that she has been sending him photos and audios as well since the second half of March
>My heart sinks into my chest
>Neither of us knew she was two-timing us
>We confront her and ask her to leave all of our shared communities
>She does and we never hear of her again

That was 5 months ago, here's one of the audios I managed to rescue before she nuked our DMs (I cut off my name from it)
https://files.catbox.moe/3wec5e.mp3
Imagine waking up one day to that and not falling for it
I dare you to look at me straight in the eye and tell me you wouldn't have fallen for it

>>105901644
I would've blown my brains out tbf
specially after that audio
goddamn

>>105895186
not in the way you think. when she started faking emergencies for donations repeatedly.

>>105895186
Hololive English

It has been devastating seeing this once fun branch slowly turn into Japanese-pandering shills, all streaming at ungodly late hours and then still somehow pretending to be mainly for English-speaking fans. It was more than blatant with Fuwamoco, it became even worse when the realization set in that Cover more than likely does that passive-aggressive Japanese shit where they STRONGLY suggest EN members to move to Tokyo so they can get rewarded for it. Good for them, they get more opportunities the more they play ball with the JP pandering like Bae getting a lot of music creating opportunities despite never being known as a music-focused holo and she got it way before the others that were and ARE considered music focused or singers in HoloEN. Again, good for the ones that do that, but it just feels so forced and soulless. Biboo streaming for like 9+ hours every time and bleeding into JP hours while the regular viewers are stuck with non holos as their choice for EN vtubers is kinda crazy to me, and how normalized it is. Bae has a collab karaoke in the 3D booth with others today and it starts at 11pm, like what the fuck, man.

This branch used to be so fun and now it feels it exists only for Japanese viewers that are practicing English or understand English, not for native English speakers. Everything they do now is for JP. It hurts even more to see how no one cares, especially not Cover. After the graduations they flipped a switch and turned EN into whatever the fuck it's supposed to be now. I'm just fucking sad about all of it.

>>105901644
Aw man, this is legit awful. I'm sorry you went through that, man. And yeah you're right, I would've fallen for it as well for sure and I'm not even gonna front or try to be tough and pretend otherwise. Good riddance, though. Glad you guys both told her to fuck off.

>>105900909
I mean, how many vtubers are genuine? 1%?

>>105895186
I don't blame her, I did this to myself

>>105901644
https://youtu.be/G2rUL4049DY?t=345

>>105901644
My sympathies anon. Just know it’s not your fault. It happens to the best of us.

>>105901644
I went through something like that when I was underage. At the time I didn't know the guy beyond his username but after we realized it we kind of became friends.
The experience taught me that easy comes, easy goes is a real thing.

>>105902669
I did and there's nothing interesting there

>>105901644
My condolences, nobody deserves going through that

>>105902130
she's in a better place now bean
cherish the time that was

>>105898439
Nah, I believe her marrying a rocket scientist lol. She seems like she loves intelligence

>>105899109
this is what hurts. I really did have a chance with her. She actually was into guys like me and that’s what makes it hurt more

>>105901644
Fuck that bitch. You deserve better anon. No one should be cheated on

>>105895186
Disappointed me, yes. Broken my heart, no.
I was disappointed in certain decisions and actions but not heart broken since I try not to get too attached and try to see it all as entertainment.

>>105905339
If you think just having a degree and a decent income is enough to have a chance then congrats, you're in the strike zone of 99% of the vtubers.

>>105905710
That's oddly uplifting anon, thanks for that

>>105905779
You feel uplifted by being a mark for gold-digging menheras?

>>105901644
>She's gets uncomfortable and tries to pussyfoot around the question, giving me unclear answers
This is when you should have realized something was up and bailed.

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>>105903012
>>105904652
>>105905596
Thank you guys, I really appreciate the sympathy
Me and my friend really didn't to want to blow this situation out of proportion so we just kept it between us for a while. Keeping all of the emotions bottled up was difficult at times. This is the first time I share it publicly and I'm really glad you guys commiserate with me

>>105901644
Cool discord "relationship" anon, good luck in the real world

>>105906163
To be fair, she was filled to the brim with redflags. She was 34, renting with two elderly housemates, her dad had been in jail when she was a teenager, attended narcotics anonymous because of a weed addiction she had like 5 years ago (lol) and she confessed she had a body count of 12 after whoring around during highschool

I ignored them because I was just lonely and liked the attention

>>105895186
Honest to god my oshi is a fantastic woman and has been very good to me for years now

>>105901644
on one hand sucks for you, on the other fuck you
you are 50% responsible for this thread

>>105906152
She makes way more than I ever will even making six figures. If anything I AM the gold digger

>>105906185
This isn’t an all women are like this situation. I would see women who do art are more menhara on average but please remember that not all women are like that

>>105895545
?

>>105909612
From the bottom of my heart, I hope you're right man

>>105895186
Yes.

>>105901644
>>105906185
Bro I feel bad and it is worse because I can tell she was lying in that clip.

bump

>>105895186
no im not retarded

>>105895186
twice, one for being a whore and the other one... for being a whore too

>>105895186
>debuted under a company that made her act single and young for numbers
>graduated, kept her IP
>couldn’t spill the beans and kept dragging it out for too long
>but she really wanted to talk about her RL all the time
>yes, about the wishing for a family one day
>about how she doesn’t consider herself GFE
>until it all overflowed and she confessed to having been married from the start
I didn’t even know I’m a unicorn before. But apparently, I always was?

>>105930377
thats so freaking weird. are poeple not capable of just keeping their personal life and professional life separate?

when my favorites stop streaming it will explode my heart

>>105895186
Heart broken? No but betrayed yes. One day in a members stream she started to talk shit about a handful of regulars because we weren't there that stream. Almost the entirety of the people who had stuck around since she was a 1 view, people who had drawn art, donated to and clipped her. Most of us dropped out, I found my way to someone who I'm happier with.

>>105930710
Parasocialism extennds both ways. They they feel guilty hiding shit and yab about it but turncoat saying that WE shouldn't have expected anything to begin with.

>>105932126
Sometimes I wonder how you faggots manage to find the most horrible women on earth and get invested in them.

>>105933536
Dude that can literally happen to anyone, literally (proper use of the word)
Bad people are everywhere

>>105930377
Pina gang not like this

>currently archiveschizoing
Damn the way mods delete posts here you'd think we're Germans trying to discuss the holocaust. If this gets deleted it's just more proof

>>105895186
Imagine a vtuber who has a community you like. Imagine crying on stream about not making rent and then spending the money donating to other vtubers and gacha and commissions. Then she starts making porn instead to make more money and the community is replaced by people who just want to jerk off.

>>105934198
Wrong thread, but honestly probably not all that wrong if I bothered to check.

>>105930710
Most women likes… ‘attention whoring’ and im not memeing it in a bad way
Like if they got a chance and couldnt share their shit it is torturous for them

>>105895186
not heartbreak i guess but incredible amounts of dread or whatever stumbling upon yuy_ix and learning about her problems with a stalker, depression, and several health problems just to then feed off of parasocial people that give her tens of thousands of dollars in a single month for the sake fueling their perfect blue-esque fantasy relationship. something about all of it upsets me how someone can so quickly give into greed by exploiting parasocial viewers and not setting boundaries. it's going to destroy her. i just want a good indie vtuber, man. every single time i find one that clicks with me it turns out they do audio porn or never set boundaries with viewers that irresponsibly spend money, etc etc.

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Unicorns i've just noticed something, have you looked at our rhetoric lately?have you guys read these thread comments? have you noticed we want so subjugate women from their own happiness and want them to only serve us? Unicorns, are we the baddies?

>>105936487
is telling their viewers about their relationship or doing shit like this >>105901644 a requirement for happiness? is that really so much to ask that you consider it enslavement or are you just being retarded on purpose to bait? I'm gonna guess the second considering the picture you picked

>>105911503
If every woman you encounter has something wrong with her, then the problem is just you.

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>>105895186
melmel broke my heart...
but rica fixed it!

>>105895186
Rushia

>>105895186
By graduating, yes. But no one ever cucked me so it's bearable

>>105899114
Especially the males

I fell in love with my Oshi hard and I realized she never really liked me. She didn't dislike me or anything but she didn't really care if I was there or not. Despite all the love and the support and getting to know each other, making her laugh, teasing, helping, thousands of marshmallows.
None of it mattered. I was just there in her eyes like some background character.
And I get the feeling she never broke up with her first boyfriend, just kept him an incredibly well kept secret. So well kept that it seemed impossible. Don't have any proof though.
Never fall in love with a woman. She will rip your heart to pieces one way or another.
I should have known better. But I won't be recovering from that one.
It feels incredibly bad to slowly realize she treats everyone else or at least her favorites better than she treats you and just glosses over you. A quick acknowledgement or a simple reply occasionally at most.
It's pretty fucking easy to tell when a woman likes a guy. because she will break all of her rules for him and fawn over him.

>>105936238
She's always been parasocial anon. She never wanted to stop, just couldn't handle being stalked by one guy while she was fucked up on health issues.
She even mentioned how she thought he wasn't malicious or evil, just wanted to date her but trying to track her down via healthcare freaked her out.
>>105937391
All women are mentally unwell anon. It's just about finding one that has mental illness and is fucked up to a point you can handle.

>>105936238
If she has that many health problems she might actually need the money but I am not to familiar with her

>>105895837
Now this is fucking hillarious

>>105895186
Yeah, but it was my fault. I was in a bad place and after a few years in this hobby as a casual watcher, I wanted the GFE. New corpo, cute chuuba that is explicitly GFE. I had to get drunk to get over the cringe for the first few weeks, but I really wanted to feel something.

Long story short she had a fiance, and actually, unironically liked NTR. Had him in viewer games, planned dates with him in the middle of her donathon, shit like that. I still get the chills when I remember her dupers delight when she was saying that the protagonist of needy streamer overload is a terrible person and that she would never do that.

>>105902351
I don't blame them honestly. Look at the smouldering corpses of all the other dead corpos and you'll realize that EN vtubing doesn't really have a bright future. Pulling in the ENs and making them pseudo JP is simply a contingency measure now that they've realized the English speaking world doesn't care about vtubing in the same way nor to the same extent as its home country.

>>105895186
yes when she died but there was no other option

>>105946630
There was this vtuber who did a "I had a boyfriend the whole time." and started saying stuff like "I love having sex with him". I didn't part-take in the GFE stuff so I didn't care that way but it's still a weird feeling when we just hang out watching video games and suddenly I'm being used to satisfy a fetish.
This is probably what vtubers talk about to each other. "And then I said Ame was a bad person for cheating lmao."

>>105902351
>it starts at 11pm
As someone who watches nip girls after giving up on holoEN, it doesn't feel particularly strange. Mind you, this is 11pm jst. I'm not sure about what kind of schedule holoJP has though.

I'm such a sensetive retarded nigger that any time any vtuber has a woman moment (like MariMari_EN and the "if you had a nuke" thing) i instantly stop watching them and feel like shit.
I want to watch a vtuber at least pretend to be a decent woman, i don't want to be reminded that women are bad people

>>105895186
No because I'm not parasocial. I only watch EN subbed clips of holo JPs.

>>105946630
>>105947174
I became a turbo unicorn even if I don't feel strongly about the girl simply because if they tick all of my checkboxes then they can't be bad people. Even a bit of radio silence or wrong tone makes me drop them, not to mention the obvious signs.
I don't think I've ever followed someone who did this

>>105947693
I think there aren't a lot of women that actively enjoy cucking their fans, but having a bf is a very real possibility for any chuuba. I'm not saying this in an incel way, but if a woman is entertaining enough to have the attention of hundreds of people, for a few hours every day, there is 0% chance she can't get a bf. "Doesn't want to" is cuck cope in 95% of cases and in the other 5% it is "doesn't want to NOW." Like it or not, attention, physical relationship, family security, etc. are a big deal for pretty much everyone.
Best of luck with filtering them anon

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All they had to do was keep their relationship a secret. We could have all kept being happy. Why did she do it to us? We meant nothing to her.

>>105895577
fuck off danskjävel

>>105946630
Hi Kichain.
Eien was one of the most fucked up corpos of all time.

>>105948000
>Best of luck with filtering them anon
I've been doing this for years. It just werks, but the chuuba pool after filtering them is hilariously small.
The disappointment often comes in other ways, like a shift in priorities as they see their idol dream vanishing, bad influences or schizo fans making them change their minds.
There are legit nice girls out there that do fit the criteria but sometimes you don't know for how long they will do so.

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>>105895186
We left the top of the world within her reach but she decided to threw it all away like we were worthless.

>>105948178
Maybe you (her community) does mean something to her and that's why she had to be honest. Would probably have been more profitable to be dishonest

>>105951773
She lied about it after there was backlash so that isn't true either.