>Ollie wrote a letter to her members. Talked about how she used to be obsessed with numbers and also seriously considered suicide at some point. But she's better now.Crazy things are happening at Hololive.
>>106006861>leaking members content from ollie of all peoplekill yourself
lose weight woman
I'm gonna take a shit brb
>>106006861too bad she didn't do it
>>106006861She has no staying power. That was her problem. She got the new V-tuber hype but had nothing that convinced people to stick around. Now. That isn't to say she's bad. But she did nothing that people could not get from another Vtuber. So when a new EN dropped, or a new JP dropped people just flocked to that hype train. Difference between her and somebody like Korone, Miko, and ENs like CC, Irys, is that they have *something* that gets people to stay. Something that's different from generic vtuber. Heck even in ID Kaela's autism and silent laughs are endearing and Kobo being a retarded child is funny. Ollie has a good heart though. So I hope she keeps it up. Her live was great (though a bit short coulda sang one more song to push it from 45-60 min live)
>>106006861>crazy wacky mysterious thungs are happening oooOoOooO>literally says she was worried about numbers and that it's all in the pastok
I mean, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. I bet that the second that Hololive turned into a publicly traded company, a bunch of people in suits stepped in with the brass tacks, saying to only give resources to those who are performing.I wouldn't blame this on Yagoo or any of the previous establishment, but I know that suits know nothing about spirit. At the end of the day, so long as there's a board of investors involved, you know that every person in that entertainment company is having their souls sucked out for profit.
>>106006861>obsessed with numbers>kills her channel with homo shilling and collabsthere's something rotting in ID and it may be their brains.
>>106006861>But she's better now.Damn.
>>106007325>happened with Zeta and Kobo tooHmm...
>>106006861This explains her parasocial ways for the zomily. See any of her recent member streams she spends a lot of time talking to her long time regulars while newbies are basically left out of the conversation unless you superchat her.
>>106007325Someone posted that holo ID fucked themselves hard by refusing to embrace GFE at the start, now it's too late since there's dozens of better options. Why simp for Ollie when you could give money to Chihaya.
>>106007536tell use more about this Chihaya
>>106006861ID fans were and still are insufferable, I hope bad things happen to their whores.
how can she be numbers-obsessed and pro homo? she has to know she's shooting herself in the foot that way
>>106007645She likes cars and has nice thighs.
>>106006861So what everyone here considers suicide seriously everyday and if not they should
>>106006861Wait, you faggots watch the ID branch? Or is it only the monkeys
>>106006861this is what happens when you suddenly only spam Apex right after you proclaim how you gonna change the entire Vtuber sphereshe was super interesting at first and then quickly pissed on everyones porch and go to apex slop
>>106007645>likes her fans>likes cars>likes streaming>decent singer>did a karaoke stream around the time people got off work specifically to help them start the weekend off
>>106007426>talking to her long time regulars while newbies are left out of the conversation That's every members stream for all these girls. They only ever talk to the select few
>>106007645>>106007681Also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD67B65ceFQ
I can respect a homocollaber that knows they are killing their channel and doesn't careThis is just being retarded and spoiled, you can't have your cake and eat it
>>106007787>They only ever talk to the select fewI haven't noticed this from most of them.
Remember that time she blew up on some indo monkey complaining about her speaking English? Was that in 2022-2024? kek
>>106006861well now we know who's behind /#/ shitting up this board
>>106006861Wtf? She's still doing better than most of her countrymen, better than most Westerners too. Was she seriously considering killing herself just because numbers don't go up? Wtf? Is she a menhera or management is bullying them hard?Also, why does she consistently plays debuff and collabs with garbage people if she cares about numbers?
Hololive is a black company
>>106008013>She's still doing better than most of her countrymenShe can at least say thank god I'm not Iofi.
I still consider myself a newfag and I don't watch any ID except for Kaela, but I know absolutely nothing about Ollie other than Zombie degen>>106007681Also big tits, also got a collab with Tokyo Xtreme Racer
>>106006861>Care about numbers>Do homo collabsIs Ollie retarded? What did she think was going to happen, she knows the homos are 3 views
>>106006956>no piwacy pweasejesus christ /vt/ is the most pussified board on 4chan
>>106006861she has a good heart, and is a great dancer with great vocal expressiveness. but like many idols she is not formally trained so her vocals get stuck on nasal effecting the quality - not helped that the producers she works with often fuck up her voice quality. you will notice that in concerts and songs not done by producers that she hires that they are much better quality. this was probably not helped by Gen 3 absolutely fucking bodying her.
The explanation is simple really, she was always on shakier ground than it seemed because people were really craving any new English speaking Holos at the time - she is older than (at the time) hope and council. She debuted only a few months after Myth during the literal myth mania of late 2020. She got a huge audience just existing and speaking English, because there was not yet an established indie/small corpo base really (rather all the copycats were just getting started lol). Once more actual ENs came along and the scene widened she started to be judged more against the backdrop of other options, and she naturally declined not even from the rampant homoshilling but just from sometimes speaking Indonesian vs actual ENs who don't.Then when you put in the constant homoshilling, collabs with rando literal who indo streamers, a male on background audio moment where her response was "would you believe me if I said that was my brother" etc and you would conclude she is a fucking terrible candidate for an oshi in general unless you either really have a massive weak spot for fucking loud obnoxious girls and/or feel more closely tied to her because you are yourself Indonesian and the constant switching languages doesn't bug you. Long ago, for a few months at least, people kinda liked Ollie in early 2021. The halo moment of "wow IDs are actually decent these are honorary ENs" feeling lasted like only a few weeks really, during which she had a significant EN rooted audience. But even then the "ugh she is loud and annoying, and stupid in the annoying way, why does she keep spamming apex when she is fucking useless at it" kind of thing was there. In a vacuum with few options besides just Myth she might have been suitable but did not last vs the EN scene widening and also did the opposite of what she needed to do to hang onto the windfall audience she lucked out on at first.
>>106008126I wish it was only homos. She is the Holo that has collabed the most with outsiders. She's the Holo I least expected to be a number fag, her and Reine.
>>106008013When Kobo became the face of HoloID, things were starting to change. This whore though she could have the best of both worlds (whoring herself out & being able to own the incels at the same time)
People talk shit about the parasocial relationship viewers create with streamers, but frankly I think the parasocial relationship the streamers develop toward the viewers is probably worse. Imagine doing this job for decades and one day you have to stop for personal reasons, or people just forget about you. How the fuck do you cope with either abandoning or being abandoned by your support structure?
>>106006861>being concerned about low numbers>while being the biggest homo collaber in the company what exactly was she expecting
>>106008245>she has a good heartNot with how fat she is.
>>106007664I was curious because I vaguely recognized this imageYou've been angry and shitposting about Ollie for over three years: https://warosu.org/vt/?task=search2&search_filename=1648453845945.jpg
>>106006861Ollie had EN levels of hype on social media on her debut. Normoids loved her design and how she "broke the mold". Must suck going from that to the only people left watching like her alternate alive version more than her.
>OllieWho fucking cares.
>words words wordsIs Indonesia still burning? I hope she's raped by rioters.
>>106007325As much as i hate the homos, Ollies downfall is of her own making, ID has and always will be known as the homo side branch, what really killed her channel was her crash out at IDfags telling them to improve themselves(learn english), that got her alot of antis.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbyQaZZMDkM
>>106008389uhhhhhh okay m8. all i did was save a funny picture
>>106008496I could believe that if there were capital letters or proper punctuation in any of the posts
>>106008217Leaking memba content has been frowned upon since the /jp/ days, newfag. It's like not returning your shopping cart; just because it technically isn't illegal doesn't mean its not a disparaged practice.
>>106008596That courtesy went out the window when every single Gura mengen thread hit post limit.
>>106007089>Korone, Miko, and ENs like CC, IrysWhat are their "somethings?" Hardmode: no nostalgiafagging and "japan = automatically good" for the JPs.
I don’t hate her, I wish for her success, like other holo girls, she’s hardworking and sweet. But every time I tuned in, she always one trick on being yabai. I’d rather watch someone else.
>All these antiposts ittWhy are Holofans so toxic?
>>106008664Having a personality that is actually enjoyable to watch is important when you’re a live streamer
>>106008649Maybe mods should treat memba leaking the same way they do with roommate posting and slam the hammer down on them. Well, not that they've been doing much for the latter either.
>>106008730Ollie pls calm down
>>106008596OP is an asshole, but I am shocked because Ollie never ever struck me as someone that cared about numbers, she hasn't done anything at all to improve her numbers. It's so weird to me.A bit like Nimi doing the lld, she never shared anything of her private life and then she does something that completly contradicts her streaming life to that point
>>106008759That is such a vague and extremely subjective statement that it essentially constitutes a non-answer.
>>106008761If they can't afford to get a window fixed do you think they'd have anything worth stealing in the first place?
>so many people that gave attention to me, so many people talking about meYeah, I remember her e-celeb chasing phase. Anyone remember who was the one that "who?" her after a while of not talking to her because she fell off?
>>106008881First time encountering an analogy?
>>106008811All the people that the anon listed have something unique, something you can’t get from the average twitch e-girl with a costume. I could type up a paragraph about each of them but I really can’t be bothered so just use your brain
>>106008761This is exactly the kind of drama-ridden shitpost-filled board the meidos wanted it to beA shame there's no more actual human beings on it and it's a ghetto with PPM below its inception, but oh well
>>106008596>Leaking memba content has been frowned upon since the /jp/ days, newfagAnd it was stupid then, too. I get why your personal investment on a chuuba can make you disapprove of it, but 4chan overall has never been anti piracy or leaks.
>>106006861>she used to be obsessed with numbersYeah that was obvious.
>>106008920>All the people that the anon listed have something unique, something you can’t get from the average twitch e-girl with a costume>But I won't get into itMight as well saved yourself the effort and not replied.
>>106008889Connor?
>>106008922Why are you so upset a memba post from ollie of all people get leaked? You sound like a pussy.
>>106008996I'm just reminding him that this fucking garbage board is exactly how the people running it want it to be, it'd be like complaining detroit is a crime-ridden shithole with nobody trying to clean itIt's by design
>>106008966Yeah because you’re obviously brain damaged. It’s just a mystery all those people have succeeded while ollie failed.
>>106008996>Why are you so upset that your neighborhood is a low-trust, graffiti ridden shithole? You sound like a pussy.
Didn't she say she didn't care about numbers? I'm pretty sure it was around 2024. A very parasocial letter.
Is this shit even real? Why would a zombrapper leak this?
>>106008268>a male on background audio moment where her response was "would you believe me if I said that was my brother"don't forget Ollie getting fingered live while Reine and Anya go wtf is she doing.
>>106006861Here's the thing, she has no one to blame but herself, her whole purpose was to destroy the walls between the stars, western e-celebs and Hololive, she used her new found fame to try to turn Hololive into twitch.It is honestly laughable how this bitch goes agains the tides and asks herself why she's sinking, she's right that she, at the time, was the most promising and entertaining one from ID but she managed to fumble it, you do not come to a steakhouse and tell people they will absolutely love the new gravy 90% of the people going there don't want and think you are a martyr when things don't go your way and people start avoiding you.The most hypocritical thing is that she outs herself as a liar to her fans in the very first sentences of her letter >I was slumped during ''2022-2024'' aka the fuck around and find out period of her stupidity It was not until not only jurard, but shiori and ERB joined and she started to be happier, she's not happy because her fans support her but because there are talents willing to go out with the homosand support them just as much as she does and go on dates with them (Ollie's words about going with moona, erb, shiori, jurard and goldbullet).And as much as it sounds laughable, I pretty much think jurard is banging Ollie, why? because if you know women, indonesian women at that, you know they don't get better with time and self reflection.
>>106009039The difference is literally Indonesia. The ID girls need to give up on that market entirely like Michi did
>>106009049It’s a mengen post, not her IRL doxx faggot. There are much worse issues plaguing this board than some mengen posts.
>>106009039I just hate that kind of answer. I ask you a direct question and you just mumble something about it being "self-evident." It's a disingenuous reply that provides nothing to the discussion.
>>106009050The entire OP is her lamenting over the fact that she USED to be, past tense, like around debut
>>106009127Then you missed the point about the broken windows, faggot. Hell, why bother cleaning up litter in the streets when we have bigger problems?
>>106009127Considering garbage catalog anti threads are part of what turned this board into the shitheap which was so bad it drove the highest PPM thread ON THIS WEBSITE to fuck off and make their own.. I'd say it's a prime example of the issue
>>106009123You’re just coping. Ollie being in ID didn’t make her suicide her views by throwing holo viewers under the bus for fleshtuber collabs or apex viewers.
>>106008980I think it was someone smaller. But man, just looking back in the archives looking up these two names and it was obvious to everyone, huh?
>suicide letter because youtube number go downJesus christ.... numberfags are mentally ill.
>>106008920>All the people that the anon listed have something unique, something you can’t get from the average twitch e-girl with a costumeHow are IRyS and CC different from twitch e-girls other than the bare minimum fact that they don't flesh stream?
>>106008352>how do you cope with abandoningThey usually get dick or a better offer, that's why they leave anon and are fucking happy to do so>being abandonedThis is the issue with Ollie, she's been abandoned and that's why she felt bad
>>106008889It has to be Astel. Probably met up irl didnt like what he saw and dipped.
>>106009259This is a good example of what Bao said (minus the sexual grooming part)Content creators that you're not in a group with, or direct off-stream friends with, are often just leeches that are going to use and abuse you and it's disgusting the way they took advantage of her being retarded and naive
>>106008917>no answerI accept your concession and forgive you.
>>106009312you would know if you watched them
>>106009441Not an answer.
>>106008917I think he doesn't understand what it's like to be in a high-trust society because he lives in a favela, hence the shitposting about chuubas on this dead board
>scream>be overly hornyDropped.
>>106009472don't care, either you get it or you don't. Doesn't matter.
>>106009312Find me a German fleshtuber who does live concerts, is associated with a popular duo dynamic, sings, and plays instruments and games, while also roleplaying a character.
>ID>killing yourself over low numbersShe really thought that debut buff would last forever kek. She did come out of the gate really strong but the constant yelling and homo collabing and e-celeb leeching sent her off a cliff and if she was a real number whore she would have known better.
>>106009390that's just life
>>106009312I don’t think you realize just how low tier all the twitch e-girls are. 99% of their content is posting cosplay photos, poorly playing valorant, and walking around IRL streaming with their boyfriends.
>>106008730Holofans are toxic, but not for the reasons you believe, they're toxic because they are proud Cover bootlickers/brainless brand worshippers; just look at your argument: >numberfagging le bad!! but it's ok when Cover does it >shut up>just don't question anything >Cover can do no wrong When one holodrone tries to anti Ollie for daring to exposing their precious Cover and another holodrone calls the first holodrone toxic, it all comes full circle.
>>106006861If Oille had committed rope would anyone have cared?
>>10600990499% of all vtuber content is just making unintelligible cute noises while playing fotm, concertslop and taking breaks to practice for more concertslop, and yuribaiting with the most sfw horny jokes possible. Let's not throw stones in glass houses here.
>>106010026the ones who tried to leech from her would've made a video ''crying'' for her loss and how they were close for clicks and views, even if they haven't interacted in over 3 years in any way or form.
>>106010054you watch too much hololive, this isn't what the vtuber world is
>>106009259>it was obvious to everyone, huh?Yeah but you totally were a schizo for not agreeing with her, or something.
>>106008596kyst. /asmr/ lurker
>>106008664>Korone: hardcore retrogamer and plays a lot of really obscure jap games. Quite witty and has a fun pretend abusive relationship with her fans.Miko: I don't personally like her, but she has great reactions and is really good a playing/being a retard and being a bulliable target for the audience. Really hits the girls are cutest when retarded feel.CC: Autistic German and wholly frank about it unlike being abrasive like Kiara, le creatividadz and is good at playing the straight man in the ccgg dynamicIRyS: Airheaded Bimbo who genuinely has an interest in niche otakudom like mecha as well as being good at being "unintentionally" lewd while keeping up the idoru aspect
>>106010149Okay then. How are top indies like Ironmouse, Mint, and Filian any different?
>>106010054Are you subbed to some twitch sluts patreon or something? Actually singing and dancing is more work than some twitch whore puts in an entire year posting thirst trap selfies on instagram and twitter.
>>106009097It's a Nijifag deflecting their yab
>>106010054>concertslopspoken like someone who has never sung, danced, or played an instrument for anyone ever in their life
>>106006861she got her nepofag jutard in so shes fine now fat bitch
>>106010246e-celeb cock is added to the mix and massive collabs with literal whos
>>10601005499% of all vtuber are Nerissa?
>>106010232IRyS isn’t a bimbo she’s a sexy dork you fag.
>>106010026there are no ropes in ID strong enough for that landwhale
>>106010258Just some devil's advocate. Let's not pretend like vtubing is some form of high art. It's bottom barrel streaming and idol culture. The only reason it got so popular was because of accessibility, interest in what was at the time something wholly unique, and all that combined with most of the world locked indoors for like 2 years.>>106010302Concerts were exciting and fun back when there was a drought earlier in the decade. Now we're halfway through and they just keep throwing concert after concert at us. Yeah, Holofes and AFO are big deals, but anniversary live #1468 is not something I look forward to. I'd rather they have big fun collabs like HoloGTA than yet another "following our dreams" concert followed by relentless merch shilling.
People on this board will cry about how vtubers or hololive are just like fleshstubere but anime, then never provide a name for someone who even does 10% as much as them.
She should found better ways to vent.
>>106010521Please. Their hardwork is a technicality because they're also mandated by their company to sing and dance too. In terms of streaming content they're on the low end of the spectrum of entertaining.
>>106006956fag
>>106010521I can provide about a billion names for people that do more than Nerissa
>>106010054
>>106010608>In terms of streaming content they're on the low end of the spectrum of entertaining.you are just an idiot. there is a literal fucking category on twitch for girls to sit in a hot tub with a bikini on and yap about nothing. that is low end specturm content, not fucking live concerts.
>>106006861She wanted to become a double zombie
>>106010708where are these imaginary e-girls who do anything of value?
>>106010741>live concertsIt's everything else that isn't entertaining. Name me one vtuber that actually has witty banter or meaningful yap streams that don't amount to meme parroting or something like "look how horny and yabai I am, guys."
>Abloo bloo I'm getting 900 viewers I can't even reach 1k :(Where are these whores coming from that they don't know that just be getting 900 viewers they're already in the top 1%?
> live concertshe fell for it
>>106007794fucking cute
>>106009294Tell that to mizkif who got suicidal because his girlfriend at the time got bigger numbers than him.
>>106010866Brother I could literally say any name and you would say she isn't "witty" enough for you. If you hate vtubers so much just fuck off and go watch Amouranth since it's all the same thing.
>>106010521Hard work ≠entertaining.
>>106010957share an entertaining female fleshtuber then
>>106010978Why bother? You'll just say they aren't entertaining anyway.
>>106010978your mom, when she is bent over taking my big fat cock up her ass
>>106010933>Brother I could literally say any name and you would say she isn't "witty" enough for youTry me. Provide video examples too. You're not ashamed of what you consider to be cerebral content are you?
>>106006861>Ollie was going to kill herselfDamn... what could have been. At least she was miserable.
>>106008889>>106008980>>106009259Pretty sure, you're talk about Temu-Asmongold, Tectone.
>>106006861Is that why she got fingered on a collab stream?
She sounds like a crazy egosearcher so who knows maybe she leaked that herself
>>106011058>>106011007>still can't name 1 singular female fleshtuber who ever done anythingKorone mogs every whore you watch, fags
>>106011118She has saved reine doxx from /here/ before since her windows got leaked before. She egosas /here/ and bottom barrel SEA facebook groups and wonder why her mental health is in the shitter
>>106006861I would like one (1) sex with Ollie.
>>106006861could save
Shondo >>> shitolliehttps://files.catbox.moe/pqj7bw.mp4
>>106011129>shit! I can't think of any vtubers with witty and meaningful banter! Especially in EN!>better namedrop a JP sacred cow like Korone so they don't know that I've got nothing of substanceCome on now.
>>106006960Pls don't, her tits are perfect the way they are now.
>>106011320You can't name a single good female fleshtuber because you know they don't exist, you are just a coping homosexual.
>>106011407>You can't name a single good female fleshtuber because you know they don't existyes they all suck ass. But that doesn't make vtubers any more entertaining consequently. Maybe to yuritard midwits who like to clap and emoji spam when their oshi deliberately says something yabai, but if that's the level of entertaining you strive for then buddy, that's nothing to be proud of.
>>106006861She was fine even with only her ID audience. Until they left her when she began to be a bitch with them about the English language, as if she valued the EN community more due to the numbers that... Oh.
>>106006861>better now>oh ho ho ho really nigga Nothing worked, and yet she crawled back.
>>106008596Frowned upon by retards, yes
>>106011312>ShondoSorry, I don't have shit taste.
>>106006861Ollie and her gen only blew up in that first year, because it was still during the Covid boom where all eyes were on Hololive and ID was able to become the most successful it's ever been. She spoke 3 languages, had an interesting design, and very clearly was a Holofan. But like most of the other ID girls, they homocollab'd which gutted their growth/numbers while also mostly streaming in ID. Kaela has really cemented herself as the only relevant ID member besides Kobo, because she primarily speaks English, is chill, doesn't homocollab or do yuri baiting shit especially to how annoyingly Ollie does it, and just wants to chill/play games. Its always so funny to me seeing members like Ollie or Risu/etc have these numberfag complaints and oh woe is me, when they brought it all on themselves. They should be thankful for the little that they have, living in a shithole country like ID. If they truly want to grow, then they need to focus on their fans and speak more English.
>sorry that I was a numbersfreak>was>heavy emphasis on numbers through the whole letter>numbers present as well, including growth and ccvReally now
>>10601140739daph is more entertaining and a better gamer than Korone
>>106011798How do you reflect on something without talking about it
>>106008922Sharkmeido never wanted it like this, but thereatof the staff do and have been fucking with him and this board since before it was even made. They are butthurt about its success and that for fucking once some actual new audience came to here that wasn't some rage/out ragebait political faggot shit but something rooted in Japanese culture like the site was built for. They fucking can't stand it.
>>106006861>obsessed with numbersGenuinely how? All her actions show otherwise.
>>106011798turns out Ollie really is a woman
>>106007426>recent members streamsI was membered to her in 21 and 22, can't remember if I made it to a year, maybe, and it was like that then too. Virtually a discord style circle jerk of the usual faggots. Very, very off-putting. She relied, and still seems to as per this thread, far too much on this clique of yesmen. I was put off by her tedious menheraism and her jealousy cashout. I can only image how badly that "community" has festered in the meantime.
>>106012044ok clipwatcher
>>106006861Pussied out of method acting kek
>>106008268>a male on background audio moment where her response was "would you believe me if I said that was my brother"Sister. She actually said sister in regards to that situation. Unless I'm misremembering and a different HoloID member pulled the sister card after a male voice was heard.
I believe the rrat that Ollie leaked this herself to gauge the reaction
>>106008922complete enshittification
>>106012139she's the one that hates white people, was friends with hasan iirc. really goes to show just how terrible fleshtubers are when she's brought up as a "good streamer"
>>106012176If she knows /vt/ at all, she should be aware that the general reaction would be 'should’ve taken the rope.' There’s really no need to make a thread about it.
>>106009098How is that a bad thing? That was hot as fuck
>>106007758>right after you proclaim how you gonna change the entire Vtuber sphereShe didn't just say that, she wanted to>change hololive/ idol culture from the inside and break down boundaries and other such slop subversive cant, brainlessly thinking that it was a good thing to say out loud or even harbour as a thought at all>wow I just joined this thing that people like for X imma try and CHANGE X HURRher problems are however, as you say, self induced regardless and so sympathy is wasted on her.
I thought it was just shitposting. Do the ID girls seriously not understand why their numbers are lower? Why they'll never get things like nendoroids?
>>106012308It was fucking disgusting, not only is she ugly and the thought of her pleasuring herself is mortifying, but doing that while on stream with 2 of her branch members was foul
>>106012480you're gay
>>106012442Well Ollie basically says it herself here, that she's constantly told by her fans that she's loved and everything so to the girls they just can't properly figure out the reason since their fans constantly feed them cope instead of proper feedback. Everyone that left obviously didn't leave a note on why they left, so the only ones remaining are people that would never criticize her
>>106012442The smart ones do. But the dumb and egotistical ones like Iofi and Risu think they deserve things for existing
>>106011806The Chinese chick that openly is racist towards Whites while living in Canada? Nah.
>>106012044Chuubas are mostly all numberfags, streamers are in general. They cannot be ignored unless they truly have 0 ambition or goals at all - which is generally not the case if they got into Holo. It's just rarely talked about because a.) fans often cannot handle the subject fairly or maturely if their oshi is not the world #1 (as evidenced by /#/), and b.) it is hard to bring up without making yourself look bad. Cry they aren't high enough = sour grapes, brag they're fine and you're not worried = punching down if big noombs or unmotivated failure if small. And you definitely do not want to be punching down in a company where everyone is supposed to be friendly coworkers.People like to just ignore the rrat race of noombers which is fine but I mean you can't comoletely ignore basic facts any more than you can pretend to be happy working at McDonald's for forever and never aspiring for more. Chuubas are supposed to grow, everything besides growth is bad essentially. That means more and more numbers. Doesn't have to be a huge growth rate but just something to show they are still relevant and keeping up. Negative or flat growth is like wearing a giant "I failed" sign everywhere in some chuubas' eyes. /#/ just says what some people think and judge but chuubas tend to think about this and judge themselves plenty on their own regardless of whether it's openly discussed or not. I get (and agree) that it is very very impolite to talk about numbers anywhere near a chuuba to her face, but that does not mean the topic doesn't matter.
>>106012515>You're gay for not wanting a fat ugly girl to finger herself publicly on stream in front of her coworkers She should've been fired right then and there
>>106011671Tell me you grew up in a low-trust, honorless society without telling me.
>>106012442They are just that dumb. They didn't even have the excuse of troonmega breathing down their necks regaling them with his plans to nijify holoen; they did it to themselves to "own their fanbase". What retard shoots themselves in the foot like this and then stubbornly refuses to acknowledge clear causal link between that and them bleeding out? An indonesian one.
>>106012098I don't watch her clips either. Holid in general is shite apart from the music, Kaela and maybe Zeta. I get that Ollie is obsessed with numbers but why did she sabotage herself so hard? She had a monumental growth initially that she could've capitalised on..
Homocollabers get what they fucking deserve.
>>106011519notice how he didn't reply to you since he knew that he got btfo with that one
>>106012607>so to the girls they just can't properly figure out the reason since their fans constantly feed them cope instead of proper feedbackMost girls egosa for this purpose. You can't tell me no one on the internet ever called her out. She's terminally here as well so she has seen the criticism.
>>106012711then you're both gay and terrible at recognizing lucrative opportunities
>>106012890>samefagging your own postyikes
>>106006861For goodness sake, she just needs to learn not to get involved with people who will use and throw her out, with nothing to show for it. The same as with any Holomember. People don't say that just because of jealousy, sheesh. Its because some business partners are actually just shit and don't actually give two shits about you. Feeling anxious when you should know what's causing the problem and to stop supporting it is foolhardy.
A shame OP won't write a letter to their mum
>>106006861You can see why Kiara is her Oshi
>>106012952Stay mad
>>106012986>look my ebin screenshotgay samefag
>>106012896Well yeah of course, but again its what their actual fans tell them that they care about. If they took into consideration all feedback from the internet outside of their circle, then they wouldn't be in this rut that they are in
>>106013043seethe more lol
>>106008493Bro I just had a stroke watching this what the fuck is this language. Made up
>>106012612I still believe Risu could see better numbers if she sings more, no idea what Iofi could do. I would've said draw hentai but then she'd get arrested.
>>106007787It really isn’t. Many talk to dans as a sort of zeitgeist entity, not singling out individuals except in supers.
>>106012480>>106012711Ok, we get it, you're homosexual. Nothing wrong with liking cock, I guess.
>>106011079Oh yeah it is. I don't know why I missed it on my first pass searching up their names. Thanks, anon. Also kek.
>>106007787It really isn’t. Many talk to fans as a sort of zeitgeist entity, not singling out individuals except in supers.
>>106013223I don't get it, I don't know if it's because I'm too normie or not normie enough.
>>106006861Maybe if she didn't turn herself into the immediate Hololive playtoy for every dipshit cocksucker feshstreaer and male vtuber then she would be more popular, but ID is gonna do what ID does. Not even Reine stays away from male vtubers, she indulged Axel and he's always showing up when she plays the horse pussy game. Ollie could have been bigger but her own mental illness and ID-ness held her back and it's far too late to recover.
>>106013299She interacted with and collabed with every vtuber-adjacent e-celeb under the sun when she was relatively popular, mind you only because of the Hololive brand of course. None of them remember her 2 years later and completely dumped her.
>>106013178Shouldn't Ollie get arrested for rainbow propaganda as well?
>>106006861Nice fanfic, OP. Did you ask ChatGPT to write it?
>>106008013The higher you climb the harder the fall.
>>106008809Ollie, the one who is obsessed with networking and is in the comments of literally every vtuber on the planet, doesn't strike you as someone who cares about numbers? Please.>LLDOh you're a retard I see, I should have read the whole post before replying.
>>106011798Yes, that's how talking about the past and elaborating on those things works.
so was this real or what, is there a single member here
>>106006956FpbpOP BACKED THE FUCK OFF
Every homocollaber and homo enabler gets what they deserve
>>106013543Ah, no, it's a re-saved bait from /#/ so you would not be found by hash search, figures :>>106005046>>106013719It's fake, there is no such post.>It was deleted!I'd have it in my email feed.>It's from stream!Latest mem stream is ASMR, lmao. And no timestamp.
>>106006861Ollie really fucked up by doing homo and outside collabs if she really numberfagsI bet shits gotten worse since Gigi's arrival, as she's currently eating her breakfast, lunch, and dinner
>>106012688I watch a lot of content creators and generally once they start discussing and obsessing about numbers it's over. Most of them got into it for various reasons, but once they tie all their desires onto "make number go up" they lose the spark that made them successful in the first place.It's honestly hard to watch after a while once you see it happening. Especially since it's entirely unnecessary because even the most famous and successful artists are going to experience it at some point as they release various projects and pivot to different genres and careers. Just look at someone like Taylor Swift who went from country bumpkin to pop singer. Even old bands form the 80's have rabid fans who age along with them. Sure, the lose influence over time, but they still have a massive fanbase that never really goes away.
>>106006861If I'm an ugly bitch and my face revealed by accident, I would want to kill myself
>>106009123>The difference is literally Indonesia.The difference is she wanted to change the culture
Ollie's whole thing was that she started off strong. Soon after that, everything fell apart as all of her habits that turn away viewers were revealed one by one.>High energy, loud as fuck for everythingShe ran that into the ground quite a bit because this part of her was always set to "ON.">Constantly going for the obvious innuendo or forcing one, yuribaiting nonstopThat got annoying and played out.>Collabed with dudesMost vtuber fans aren't into that, and she doesn't have a special position in the company that made her immune to losing viewers. A lot of her collabs are wack in general.>Her content overallNever really played anything interesting, Okami was 5,000 parts, consistently played boring shit like APEX. Her personality isn't for me at all, but she had the potential to get people to watch her if she just committed to playing more interesting or well known games.>Speaks IndonesianThat's another whammy.It's a shame considering she genuinely does have a cute and raspy voice that's kind of unique, and a good vtuber design to go with it. Unfortunately, she chose to be hard to listen to while simultaneously streaming garbage. Ollie's entire history is just her making constant mistakes with her channel and content and that's why things are the way they are.
>>106006861>Be Ollie: have tons of hype, tons of goodwillTHINK I'LL BE THE BIGGEST HOMO SHILL AND HOMO CUMDUMP ON THE PLANET! TEEHEE>Numbers plummet off the face of the earth into irrelevancyIs she really that stupid? How does she not see the correlation?
>>106008493how do actual humans even understand this shit? its nothing but tongue rolls and groans. How is that a real language?? Sounds like primitive tribe stuff
>>106010026I would. Go fuck yourself. I don't like her bringing outsiders, but she doesn't deserve that kind of hate.
>>106006861She is a monkey number, she is one of us
>>106012442The answer is actually "they speak Indonesian"The second any English-only listener hears Indonesian in a collab instead of English, they'll nope out and not look back
>>106014226>just her making constant mistakes with her channel and content and that's why things are the way they areThis applies to the majority of the ID branch.
>>106010026she would have been forgotten in days, no one would even remember her now
>>106007770Okay anons, I buy it, I will follow her thank you
>>106008217it's because most anons that visit this board are not from here. It's always been like that. Tourists stick out like a sore thumb.
>>106008664How do you nostalgiafag the newest gen?
>>106006861Unicorns stay winning
>>106006861Isn't this the third time someone from covercorp wanted to kill themselves? one from each branch too i think, Ollie from in, aloe for jp, and whoever the third chick was. Maybe cover is more like re;act than I thought. That's a fucking problem.
>>106006956Another sign this board lost its soul
>>106014449>The second they speak Indo, ENs nope out>The second Indo's hear English, they chimp out.You literally can't win.
>>106014738Bro really is whining about etiquette on 4chan, what’s next, you want respectful and civil arguments on Twitter?
>>106006861>numbersfreakShe wanted to say numberfag so bad.
>>106014694>Maybe cover is more like re;act than I thoughtElaborate on re:act I started watching someone from there recently
>>106014449>The second any English-only listener hears Indonesian in a collab instead of English, they'll nope out and not look backThat's my experience with their ID only collabs, that Minyak guy isn't always there so I don't know what the fuck they're saying.
>>106006861I don't care ollie! stop dragging EN to your orgy party
>>106006861erm.. just dont interact with males?? why are they always this shocked when this happens??>>106006956wow. /vt/ truly is the reddit of 4chan boards.
>>106006956fpbp
>leaking members' only contentdemeanor worse than that of a prostitute
>>106011312>admits she's used goods>admits she was groomed>admits she hates her fanbase and streaming>admits the subathon is only to make enough money to quit forevershondofags are fucking hypocrites.
>>106014226would being in EN made a difference?
>>106015018Re;act's management caused a chick in the company to actually throw herself into a train and kill herself.
>>106006861isn't suicide haram? she wont get 72 virgins at this rate.
>>106006861just don't be indonesian kek
>>106015686so it's better if they don't admit it and keep lying to your face?
>>106012711>herselfIt was her bf doing it lmaoYou can clearly hear her saying "but I don't want to" at one point.
>>106006861We dont have zomrades to know if the posted picrel is true or not so oh well
>>106015821Shondo keeps lying to her cuckbase
>>106015930ok but I still don't get your point
>>106007825She can so long as those few cucks keep her afloat. Always remember, an artists best work is made when they're starving
I only remember her being annoyingly sexual. she'd be hyper and fun in a vacuum, but then if she's in a collab or sees a woman she plays into stereotypes and becomes a shameless sexpest. very offputting regardless what language she's using.
>>106006861Maybe someone here can explain:If you are not pressured to achieve numbers / metrics, then why would you be so affected by it?Is Hololive management mandating subscriber / viewership numbers? (like how most Sales programs demand Monthly Quotas)Or maybe less people watching = less take-home pay?Maybe someone can explain..........P.S.Cause if it were me, in this type of arrangement, this is almost like passive income.You are not bound to a typical 9-5 job, hours are flexible. You probably don't have to render 40 hours per week.Sure, you have to talk a lot..........but if you are fine with that, then it is good.Heck, you can relax and still get paid.So yeah, what is the explanation?
>>106015821no, it's better if shondofags stop with their superiority complex when they're usually worse.
>>106006861Er where is this from? Or how old is this?I got gifted a membership from her 3D live last month and I don't see this any YT postHere's her posts over the last 2 monthsNo I don't give a shit that I'm leaking her posts, I'm not a zomily or whateverAlso checked her last mengen stream and I don't see any comment like this thereIs this some sort of transcript?I'm also not gonna sit through and watch an Ollie stream just to see if that's what she actually said
>>106006861Ollie would fit better over on Twitch with the live streams, with using YT mainly for vods & clips. But unfortunately anyone in Hololive is always being tied down with perms and stream ideas always being either pushed back or cancelled.
>>106016076While holo's management is shit, I doubt they were the reason here. She fell from a pretty high podium since she kinda went viral early on, that kinda thing will probably mess with you mentally. Imagine if you for some reason just became really popular at your work/school and then as suddenly one day no one cared anymore.
>>106016076she explains it in the 3rd paragraph. she went from thousands of viewers when streaming to mere hundreds and the drop off made her feel irrelevant and unwanted.
Lot of you guys here are thinking like employee instead of contractors.
Cover is gay and is entirely about the money now. There was a facade at some point, but that's long gone.
>>106016076It's a reality check. She was riding high thinking she'd be big simply because she was in Hololive. But she made stupid decisions, her viewer retention was poor, and all the ecelebs she chased for clout dropped her too. All she can do is watch the ENs and JPs get more opportunities, going on TV, starring in games, getting more merch. The gap is massive. It's like living in a decent house right next to someone in a mansion pissing away money.
>>106016564>and is entirely about the money nowYeah, the idol corporation never started with the idea to make profit. Come the fuck on, you deluded retard. Yagoo isn't your friend.
>>106010026Honestly, yeah. I'd feel bad, I'd wished it didn't happen, and I'd have wished she'd find her peace in the ecosystem that is Hololive now. Seems like she's there though
>>106006861mizkif of vtubing
>>106016564anon just found out that corpos are about money, welcome to reality
>>106016623The issue isn't that they weren't there to make money and have now changed to it, it's just the massive amount of goods and collabs is starting to really hit the EN side, so a lot of fans who joined on with Myth and didn't/don't really watch JP never felt it. The merch and shilling has increased 20 fold since 2024.
>>106016335looks more like a Discord Quote, notice how the font has a different style, italic and color
>>106008217>>106006956This is essentially piracy except its on a person you like so you are schizophrenic about it. Fuck off.
>>106015738>lack of support meant that she had to work part time to afford outfits/MVs>she's been dealing with some unknown something for 8 years before the sudoku'dEh, seems shitty but I can deal with this.
>>106016564>>106016677>corporation makes money>corporation puts out more merchandise as a result>WTF THEY CHANGEDdo you have down syndrome
>>106014965We're not animals.
>>106015686>>admits she hates her fanbasehave you seen them? it's only normal
>>106008013The lower the numbers the more businessman blowjobs.
>>106016774yes we are
>>106008761>maybe mods should treat 4chan like redditgo back.
hi
>>106017271>/b/ tourist thinks all of 4chan is like his shithole favela of a board
>>106017626>thinking piracy is exclusive to /b/>thinking /b/ has any relevancy whatsoeveryep, it's a touristin the good ol times you would have been banned for being such a faggot already
>>106006861>no profile picture shown>no hint who or where wrote thisOP do you have anything that would actually link this to Olie besides your schizophrenia?
>>106017663in the good old days your retarded 3rd world ass wouldn't have access to internet making it a better place for all
>>106017756>baseless emphasis on country of originyep, it's tourist o'clock
>>106008928tell that to the faggots hoarding the ironmouse concert vod because RESPECT MUH 30 DAYS
bump limit on a fake image smells of phasedrama
>>106009961How is it Cover's fault that she was a "numberfreak" ?
