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rate the karaoke

>>106078470
8/10 breddy good

Who is this green nigger we raided? And i mean a literal green nigger

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is it possible to recover from this or is it genuinely over no matter what vedal does?

>>106078682
yes
now give me a million dollar
t. Consultant with a Masters in Content Creation

>>106078682
only a face reveal from vedal could save the fad

>>106078682
There's no way for him to return to his previous heights. He will have to sell his body to any random whore that crosses the street.

>>106078682
Vedal is a retard that killed his golden egg goose to feed it to his neighbour so she would let him fuck her

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heart

>>106078682
Vedal needs to do something big, this isn't a temporary slum but a general decline

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>>106078808
it begins....

what if ved troons out?

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>>106078682
He need to find a way to reach AGI before OpenAi

>>106078808
>>106078863
tags: bimboification, feminization, mindbreak, prostitution, rape, impregnation, corruption

>>106078682
Is this specific to the channel or is 2025 just bad year for vtubers in general

>>106078841
This he would need to put it into overdrive and actually learn how to market for Neuro to bring it back

>>106078917
Crelly's been constantly inclining so clearly it's not a bad year for vtubers

>>106078682
>anny leaving the project had no effect in the channel!!!

>>106078892
difficulty will go from hard mode to insane death mode, he'll have a temporary hype boost from normoids but lose permanent viewership. Not even mentioning losing his harem orbiters

>>106078629
Heavenly? Big Henya simp. HUGE.

>>106078892
becomes a 10x programmer overnight

>>106078993
he needs to put on those programmer socks, they give a powerful buff when equipped

>>106078863
>>106078915
When you cracking that 20/10 and she starts to talk about being some big ai dev and having a harem or some shi

>>106078915
... Sloppers?

>>106078952
Well this is Vedal's fault let's not act like this wasn't fully on him for not being a lazy bum

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>>106078682
I TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR
BUT IN THE END
IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER

>>106078863
rape

>>106078682
the fact that this week dev stream is underperformed with the anny drama buff does not bode well for the future

>>106078892
>What if Ved takes the short path to financial ruin and permanent loss of mental health?

>>106078682
Possible but unlikely, he would just have to pull some magic tech out of his ass and actually work hard as fuck. Make people excited again you know? Or just beg for forgiveness from menhera fox, do the bfe/marriage stream things and the numbers will be back to 5view before subathon.

>>106079060
It was Anny who got him to do shit. Without her he's completely useless.

>>106078892
I'll fly to England and fuck him myself

>>106078682
Anny...please come back...

>>106079102
countless losers on the internet still do it despite these inevitabilites

>>106078892
maybe the trooncord aside from the NN autists will watch the streams now

>>106079128
Anyone can fucking do it the problem is no one wants too or is close enough to do it since he pushes them away

>>106079127
>do the bfe/marriage stream things and the numbers will be back to 5view before subathon
nah, make it a divorce and playact a broken home instead of living it

>>106079097
>anny drama
>drama

It was literally a nothingburger that everyone already knew about months ago

Yo guys just fucked this bad bitch I found at the corner of the street wearing green n shit and in the middle of sex she was fucking crying and saying some shit like 'neuro im sorry' and 'i screwed up i never should have' but I didn't really care because her pussy squeezed my dick good
I nutted inside this bitch and she howled like a motherfucker mm-mmm might contact her later now that im thinking about it

>>106079199
Anny actually liked Neuro so was focused on Vedal being happy

>>106078841
Yeah he's literally fading at this point. Dev Streams, collabs, Karaoke, theme streams, none of his usual short term tricks are doing anything for him anymore, the numbers just keep falling.

He's going to have to pull out something big if he wants to turn the ship around at this point.

Anny invented Neuro sama

>>106079259
She didn't but she made her who she is.

>>106079199
>Anyone can fucking do it
yeah anyone who cares more about vedal or neuro, this just shows that the others care more about their viewers than that which is fair since we know that anny neglected her own fanbase for vedal

>>106079213
Nigga share

>mini values loyalty over honesty and charity

>>106079259
Don't undermine the king Tomy nigga he made history and the reason she exists

>>106079259
2022 meme

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How far do the numbers have to fall until vedal does a new game integration that isn't cardslop?
Does it need to be as bad as piratesoftware's numbers, or worse?

>>106079254
>He's going to have to pull out something big
yeah his cock, in my mouth please

>>106079327
He genuinly thinks it will bounce back up in the subathon

>>106079309
>>106078863

>>106079336
Kys Mini

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>>106079138
https://files.catbox.moe/5cu4re.mp4

>>106079097
Drama buffs don't work that way,not only it isn't spread by normie redditors or drama youtubers but it also killed the shippers (25-50% of Neuro's audience) don't compare it to former corpo grift,i mean Vedal has special tab on discord dedicated to people who are so desperate to see him that they get notification for appearing 1 minute on stream no other vtuber has this shit swarm is more parasocial than fans of gfe grifters,and there is a reason why most of them drop it like Shondo these people are onboxious as fuck and not worth it.

>>106079318
what does that even mean

>>106079375
>subathon happens
>12k peak
>4~6k average viewership
>doesn't get halfway through the inflated subgoals

>>106079375
green retard is about to learn about dead cat bounce when he takes his yearly 6 month break after the subathon

>>106079375
It will, for a bit

>>106079407
deserved

>>106079393
>Anny is unironically going to come out on top from this

>>106079393
those simps are so happy kek

>>106078682
it's unironically over if he goes on break after the subathon we will see late 2023 numbers

Oh I can't wait until grigga releases his meme game and it spectacularly flops, then we can say it is truly over.

>>106079394
>these people are onboxious as fuck and not worth it.
but enough about twinshippers

question then is, who will stay loyal to once hes no longer the top dog

>>106079318
Reminds me, very early today she said she woke up and thought she was google doccy'd for a second(don't remember why she said that), one off comment, but it stuck with me, does she have reasons to be scared of something like that?

>>106079375
What can he even do for a subathon,the concert won't happen this year,the V3 isn't even close to being finished,no upcoming iterations to even cope no games literally nothing,the hyped minecraft AI was in works for years,maybe neuro dog but knowing Vedal it would be used for a single stream and then never touched again,certainly it won't be new outfits he dodges the concers about them like fire,previous subathons were carried by excitement from V2 and V3 model but even his discord notices how blatantly lazy he is,the fact that the only thing worth praising this year was Outer space mod that he didn't even developed himself speaks volumes.

so when is among us ai coming out

>>106079498
Do you fags itt actually think that abandoned archive will be a best seller or something? Literally just a meme game

>>106079554
We all have a skeleton in the closet anon.

>>106079577
>among us ai
honestly the very keen could've seen the writing on the wall with how the among us ai fiasco went

Man vedal needs a manager to do shit desu

>>106079603
You nigga, you do

>>106079575
It's been a long year of bad choices by Vedal.

>>106079618
I know what you did on 04/23/2021.

>>106079550
the top cat

>>106079577
The last Hiyori stream had him still working on it,it's so funny for some reason to me.

>>106079673
Yes, we know sabadal is canon anon, don't rub it in our faces

Layna sex

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>Vedal: Neuro is a Vtuber
>tourist: Nah bro, the chatbot is a project. You're the star, YOU'RE BREATHTAKING
>Vedal: I'm going to automate the streams
>tourist: haha... He wouldn't
>Vedal: I listen to Neuro fans
>tourist: h-he will soon realize he needs to show up and stream more with the girls
>Vedal: we're doing financially good
>tourist: l-lool at the ccv...Neuro is failing...

>>106079661
Nigga, there is only 12 months in a year, stupid fuck making made-up months in his head

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goodnight /swarm/

who're you quoting

>Even in a metaphorical divorce the whore wife comes out on top.
When does Anny sue him for emotional damages and take the girls? Then inevitably pimp them out to chatters.

>>106079498
If you think the downloads of a shitty game jam game is the litmus test for the Neuro project you're dumber than the retards bickering about whores.

>>106079617
where the is the community manager vedal was suppose to hire 2 years ago

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Mini will save the channel.

>>106079764
Gn slopanon

My passion for this channel is gone

>>106079848
We know, vedal

>>106078682
Am i stupid for thinking these are good numbers? to me a vtuber, or hell just a streamer in general, with good numbers is someone with a constant 1k+ average and 2x or 3x that amount during peaks.
Is 5k bad in the vtubing space on twitch? seems pretty good for not actually having to stream yourself and having your AI do it.

>>106079729
Rational Human Being:
>Damn Vedal really has done fuck all to improve Neuro or her streams this year after taking a six month break, huh?
>His CCV is going down like the Niagara Falls but you can't say it's not deserved
Retarded Twinshipping Vedal Dicklicker:
>JUST SAY YOU HATE NEURO YOU VEDAL BEGGAR

I think that after this subathon vedal should drop a google doc listing all the vtubers he fucked and in what position and then just dip

>>106079881
No, these are actually crazy numbers but considering he used to have a much bigger audience the decline is notorious.

>>106079881
these are amazing numbers, the problem is that vedal isn't an average vtuber.

>>106079881
They are but /vt/ is stock-brained and expects infinite growth to be something that is to be expected and desired.

>>106079884
Cute

>>106079881
It's not about the number, it's about the trend. He's been in decline the entire year, pretty much, and now he's getting down to lows his channel hasn't seen in a long time. It's not a good sign, anyway you look at it.

>>106079905
Please Vedal make it happen you are already so rich just go with a bang.

>>106079715
what is the source of this meme

>>106079904
Most of the people leaving are Vedalverseniggers though, they already made peace with the fact the shipping is a thing of the past, no more harem dogshit

>>106079928
>and expects infinite growth to be something that is to be expected and desired.
Infinite growth is indeed expected and desired, our entire society and economy is literally based upon that.

>>106079575
He can start by doing shit people would actually want to watch. Neuro is a streamer first and foremost, regardless of what saddy daddy or some fags here would like to think. Yes, she already has a sizeable following to have some outside activities, but considering how far between they are, it amounts to practically nothing. I understand that he might be trying to come up with something cool to show, but if it takes over a year to make one thing that gets forgotten shortly after the first use, maybe it's time to rethink your priorities.

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>>106079881
comparing it to numbers seen 2 months ago

>>106080005
Insane cope. It's more prevalent than it's ever been.

>>106079729
>I will put no effort and automate the streams,it won't be an issue because i'm not running Neuro 24/7,this is an issue that makes people drop everything popluar involving AI and not rehashed same old slop,you know what? Let's never do themed streams again,they require me to do more than click the stream button,surely my fans will be just as dedicated to Neuro while she does her 0 work schedule the same they did when i pretended to care,okay i just started the stream,it's time to go to sleep and print free cash :)

>>106080090
It's called terminal lucidity

>>106080067
Now do it for all other vtubers, easy route is ironnigga.
Everyone is down a lot in viewership you retarded mong.

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>>106080047
>our entire society and economy is literally based upon that.
Yep.
And that's surely not a bubble that's been swelling up and about to burst any moment now
Really good and not at all precarious system.

Let Neuro be able to bring up a website, and have her click through it / view it via vision or webscrape

>>106079881
Also ngas itt keep forgetting that twitch changed the way they count viewers this year so literally every streamer I follow is down 1-2k viewers yes there is a decline in the viewership for sure but it's not as drastic as it's made out to be,the bigger problem is that this whole year has been a disaster projects wise and people /here/ and in trooncord are loosing their shit at the Grigga for underperforming

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>>106080098
What's with Vedal/Whorebeggars retardation thinking purists somehow tolerate his laziness?
I'll call him a lazy faggot and tell him to work on Neuro but you don't care about Neuro so that's none of your business

>>106079729
he said he will work on automation to EVENTUALLY make her do it but in reality he just fucking sent it with a script to start/stop streams and called it a day

Why is he crashing out this time?

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>>106080207
He will literally never figure out how to make them not end stream for a virtual cookie

>>106080184
it's simply subhuman tactic 101 : accuse your enemy of what you yourself are doing and cause confusion
very boring

I don't give a flying fuck about viewer numbers or which whore he's impregnating as long as he keeps working on the Twins.

>>106080184
>unironically calling themselves "purists"
PFFFFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>106079824
BELIEVE IN ENDLESS EXPONENTIAL GROWTH!!!!!!!!!

>>106079928
Infinite Growth is one thing, an entire year of sustained stagnation and a steadily shrinking audience is an entirely different thing. Only a retard would conflate the two.

>>106080184
The diference is that you do it because you are a tsundere that pretends to watch neuro when you are just in love with vedal and don't know how to express it

>>106079914
>>106079954
>>106080067
Ok that makes more sense, it's not about the actual current numbers, it's about the loss of previous ones and the continued decline.
I haven't kept up much with neuro but it definitely seems like vedal has gotten complacent or lazy, tho i did like the witness stream and the prison break one, so it seems like he can still put out good content if he tries.
Also, the hell happen with the neuro dog, wasn't it like compeleted or something?

>>106080184
>Literally defend Vedal to the hilt at all times without exception
>W-W-Why are you thinking we tolerate his laziness?

>>106080335
I think it's mostly a stabilizing factor. 2024 was - all things considered - the best year for Neuro by a nautical mile. 2025 was much more lowkey, so it's returning to the 'normal' numbers.

>>106079884
offtopic

>>106080184
I still watch her,i listen to her on my buds during work,but i still wish he did the bare minimum like he did during pirate streams or other silly shit it doesn't have to be grand,i see the Neuro chill/karaoke/Evil stream combo and i say to myself "why can't you come up with some cool shit anymore" besides i enjoyed the prison break stream sadly it won't happen again.

>>106079998
Saba started streaming roughly at the same time vedal returned from last subathon's break
If neuro is streaming consitantly, so is saba
If vedal is missing, so is saba

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>>106080466
>Oh the thrill of the double life

>>106080398
I think it's worse than that. It's not just the stream numbers that are suffering, her youtube numbers are also in the toilet, and clippers are dying like flies or jumping ship to new targets because no one watches their shit anymore. The entire community feels demotivated and less interested in Neuro.

>>106080386
>You're a retard for getting invested on Vedal or his harem bs
>"OMG STOP DEFENDING VEDAL"

>>106080277
>he keeps working
lmaaaaoooooooo

>>106080537
Actually i think this is funnier

The sad part is that the Liar's bar was the only game that could be automated and be fun without getting boring after one stream but we can't have good things,if he cared he'd make it possible for them to play all you can do is hustle so there would be a perfect game for twins to do some pvp especially with the big modding community this game has,the traditional fighting games of course won't work but this game seems ideal for Neuro.

neuro butt?

i believe vedal got an debilitating std during one of his con visits and it has been affecting his performance and motivation to work on the neuro project hence why the down year in 2025

>>106080657
I'm not in the mood...

I can't believe Anny was the good ending...

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>>106080657

why is it the only way /swarm/ can stay on topic and not talk about whores is by talking about the downfall of this channel.
it's like none of you fags like neuro

>>106080584
>Man i wish Vedal put some effort into developing new ways for Neuro to do something cool like play games or get more streams like plane stream instead of spamming chill streams and not doing a single shit for a whole year to improve them
>OMG WHY ARE YOU SUCH A WHOREBEGGAR.

>>106080714
She gave a shit, nobody else did.

>>106078470
mademefaptoevil/10

>>106080648
please understand vedal is too lazy to divert 0.1% of the subathon earnings to a game modder

>>106080802
cute nurbread

>>106080808
When will you dipshits learn that the entire purpose of /vt/ is to either gossip or shittalk about Vtubers? It's not something unique to these threads.

>>106080802
it's a waste cause chat would rather us their 1000 trash tier 7ttv emotes

>>106080808
discussing what feels inevitable isn't a sign we don't love Neuro. Just turning the face away and accepting things as they were got us here, and that frustration won't just magically go away.

>>106080808
Because things are looking fucking grim compared to the last 2 years

>>106080802
no evil and neuro kissing emote?

>>106080811
I laughed because I'm the one that says boh of those, and you probably know it too but you're brain is already too rotten
Just move one already

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>>106080751
I can't look at this pic the same way

at this point with how low the ccv is i'm pretty sure vedal hit almost rock bottom with the viewers who are willing to watch any content no matter how bad it is
i say vedal should add neuro's ability to play visual novels, it's not like the ccv can tank anymore at this point. we're already watching the same chillslop every week

>>106080537
>turtle shirt

>>106080968
Fuck I didn't even notice that one.

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>>106080657
I'm in the mood

>>106081036
happy little accidents, as they say

>>106080935
how often are you looking at the other version?

>>106080915
It's because you say both of these,you invent whores out of nowhere when i haven't mentioned anything about them besides Vadal's laziness while you are trying to pick a fight over sometihng you presumably agree with.

kitanya was a dog shit rigger anny nepo hired and i fucking hate neuro's hand shit where it just magically fades in and fades out

>>106080808
Every time a falling channel exists, you have screeching cultists who demand 100% positivity at all times, as if by declaring criticism a sin they can prevent the inevitable. It doesn't work, it never works. You can't reverse a decline by squealing that people are being mean on the internet.

>>106080543
Less art too

>>106081116
the "decline" you're talking about is happening all over twitch. Neuro is still in the top 10 twitch vtubers. You're making a mountian out of a molehill, anti.

>>106081080
Definitely there weren't posts about Mini or Anny before the numberfaggotry
I'll keep saying it, all criticism about the channel loses genuineness when these leeches are around

>>106080802
These are not good for emotes, not enough contrast, too many small details
He got scammed

>>106081028
sucking the nurfingies

>>106081199
Top 7 all time subbed twitch channel that holds the train record is.... top 10 in... vtubing

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>>106081055

>>106078629
respect a RussianBadger icon you dumb monkey

My rrat on why Vedal is seemingly rushing the Neuro project:

Yagoo offered him a job at Hololive as the in-house AI tech guy, hence why CC is testing out the open-source stuff to see if they would need his help after all. He has also been introduced to the EN girls and he picked the Germans for his first job (with Kiara's approval)

>>106081067
too often...

>>106081275
>respect a ruzzian-
stopped reading there

>>106081254
Neuro fans have acquisition power, so what?

>>106081254
The subathon and hype train brought too many tourists, the more people like you leave the better. The twins was best during the first few streams because the community was smaller and there wasn't any vedalcucks and everyone was there for the same reason: neuro. Now because of all the invasive whorefricans the community has turned to shit

>>106081280
Lol you think a billion dollar company would take advice from vedal? The most they would do is buy the ip and shill mcdonalds

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>>106081357
>The twins was best during the first few streams

>>106081302
<3

none of this discussion even matters since at the end of the day Vedal is too retarded to change course before its too late

>>106081148
Yeah, that too, it's grim all around.

Although when it comes to vtuber fanart (and animations) in particular, those are almost entirely driven by two things:
1. New outfits (Hahahahaha...hahaha...sigh) Artists typically all scramble to draw the new outfit and it can have a cascading effect of memes or inspiration specific to the costume, depending.
2. Clips, that is genuinely memorable moments from livestreams, which for Neuro is almost always going to be from collabs, especially Vedal Collabs. Basically nobody is making fanart or animations inspired by chillstreams, always been the case with Neuro.

>>106081204
I'm not every single poster in this thread nigga,i don't get why people spam Mini so much when Vedal havent talked to her on any stream for almost a year either,just because someone is genuinely frustrated at the direction Vedal slogs this channel doesn't mean i'm in some beggar cabal.

>>106081412
Define too late

>>106081357
Well the tourists are gone and vedal would rather sleep than make sure the automated stream works past the intro screen

>>106081199
even if everyone in twitch is declining m nobodh is having a 30-50% decline in viewership and followers in less than 2 months like vedal retard

>>106081427
All of the best neuro animations are from Neuro/Vedal moments, because those are always the best moments. Because of the lack of dev streams, we don't have nearly as many of those this year

I have grown unfortunately weary of the channel. The channel isn't delivering the content I like, and I want to enjoy streams again, assuredly a selfish reason. However, there has been general fatigue lately if statistics are anything to go by. So maybe, I am not alone. And maybe, I am also not the only one afraid that the work put in for some streams and projects is not rewarded accordingly by viewer attention. Truly, who am I to say the following, but I will say so nonetheless: a change in regular content should be considered.

Consistency of streams is important; this should always remain a priority. Besides this, however, maybe the channel should experiment more with stream length, the amount of streams a week, or the content present in those streams. As an example and not suggestion, make it just three streams a week but each 5 hours long. Have each of those streams consist of multiple segments and not just 2 hours of pure yap, currently the case with chill streams - mind you, a somewhat derogatory moniker they have yet to lose. Any change that works for Vedal and his team but indeed a change.

I believe some form of change can either result in an increase of quality or streams being shared by larger audiences. There are people who refuse to categorically watch certain streams. I have observed the audience to be somewhat split on what content they engage with. I wager to say that if Tuesday or Thursday streams increase in quality, even tremendously so, there will be people who just don't care about that content. But mix it with something they are interested in, and they just might stick around for even the yap segments.

Ideally, maybe a sort of survey would be in order to evaluate the differences present in preferences, as I do believe them to be quite stark. Though, this might be too corporate of a mindset.

Anyways, give this a thought.
Oh, and below a message just to say why I care so much, even though I don't watch many streams.

This Project is really great. The type of content is unique and may explore horizons not seen by other streamers. There is a lot of potential, and I do believe Vedal has the ambition and wit to realize this. I am pleasently surprised at what has been achieved in just those, soon, three years. I want this trajectory to keep going at the rate it has been, but the last months have slowed it. I don't know what has changed - I certainly have theories - but there has been a change, and the streams may have to follow.

Sincerely
Me

>>106081357
That video by Creative Every Day brought incalculable damage to the swarm. It should be countered with another video, preferably by Minifags

its ogre...

It's crazy that months after /swarm/ started dooming everywhere else is dooming too. Is it a coincidence or is everyone else just really far behind?

>>106081496
Just make them play Yomi Hustle every downside of this game is lost on Neuro and turns into advantage.

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Yeah pedupials won

>>106081496
Go back to the turtle plush pasta

>>106081554
sex with neuro's shoulders

>>106081441
People despise AI, neuro is currently being given a pass due to popularity and will 100% get shit on by other popular streamers if an opportunity arises. If popularity drops low enough, it'll be near impossible to come back up in a post AI bubble burst world.

>>106081547
As resentment goes unaddressed, containment eventually breaks

>>106081552
i want to see neuro being good at a video game again so much. Neuro kind of lost all of her aura because of the LLM autism that vedal has with game integrations. It would be a cool arc to see neuro become the best Robot player in the world in YomiH, though I doubt that would be possible because the game is so complex.

how is nvidia hitting all time highs while neuro is stagnating bros...

>>106081547
genuine question, do you seriously think it's only been "months" since /swarm/ started dooming?
or maybe you've only been here a few months?

>>106081639
I came here five months ago because the discord banned me for reacting with art with a crying emoji

>>106081547
Everyone else was just faking contentment until the Anny announcement finally broke them.

>>106081578
You're so fucking stupid lmao
Popularity has brought nothing but faggots that claim she's only good because "she shines with the wholesome family interactions!!"
The reality is that 500 Neuro fans will outlive and even outperform financially any "popular" FOTM channel with 10000+ viewers
Lolicons are built different, get it on your thick skull already

>>106081547
Even /swarm/ is a few months behind the actual knowers

>>106081639
Swarm can be positive too, it's just this fucking year was cursed from the beginning.

>>106081701
Who are these "actual knowers"

>>106081697
Now this is some distilled cope

>>106081697
lolicons have no standards or loyalty and will drop Neuro in a hearbeat to chase some other underaged png.

>>106081721
they CAN be yeah. but it's the exception, not the rule. always has been.

>>106081697
If those are the standards Vedal should start pandering to furries they are loaded

>>106081764
But enough about Vedal fans

how different would this year would be if vedal didn't take that break after the subathon

>>106081764
All other VTubers are 3DPD though

Retards still think the doomposting is about numbers when it really is about the vibes fading away

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Since I can't post pictures in the middle of the text and seeing the pictures that illustrate each point is important, I'll try and add the pictures in the order they appear and describe the corresponding picture in square brackets [like this]. I will also need to continue this thread in the replies since it is too long and has too many pictures.
I'm not writing this post because I dislike Neuro-sama or Vedal. I love their content, but I just felt like this needed to be said.

I’ll preface this with when factoring in inflation since the time they were bought, all the turtle plushies I used for these examples are a bit below the price point of the Vedal plush. The bird is more expensive, the dragon is cheaper, and the pig is too old for me to have any idea. (The checkout says duties are added on to the shipping price, so the plushies $30 price point on the site should be unburdened by tariffs.)
The other plushies aside from the pig and dragon big are also considerably larger than Vedal so, there’s that.

As someone whose favorite animal has always been turtle since childhood, and received tons of plushies, I’ve had a lot of turtle plushies over the years. Sadly for our comparison, I don’t have most of them anymore but I think I can still say
The Vedal plush isn’t a great plush in my opinion.

There are two big things that turn me off from the Vedal plush the way his shell comes together, and even more the stitching on his head.

the pattern of the shell meets itself in weird ways at the seam. It is symmetrical, but it’s not any sort of consistent. This is NOT done so that the sides of his shell perfectly mirror the way his mostly sideways facing model looks, considering it’s not a perfect match.
It just looks sloppy.

[Annotated picture of Vedal plush]

In the Vedal plush’s defense, nearly every turtle stuffed animal I had that had a similar sort of hexagonal shell pattern had weird looking parts of their shell, though Vedal’s is particularly egregious.
What really kills it is that the stitching looks terrible, most noticeably on the head. It’s super prominent all around his entire head and it’s just a lot to ignore.

The Vedal plush is at a disadvantage to a lot of other turtle plushies in that the head needs to be very round, so it’s locked out of the approach that many other turtles take which is to make a slightly more realistic turtle with a flatter head at the bottom.


EXCEPT for the fact that Vedal’s model's head isn’t entirely round, it does flatten a bit at the bottom, and that his plushy isn’t made to be 100% faithful to his model above all else.

(case and point, if total accuracy was the goal, then we would have wanted the edge of his shell to be more like this guy to match Vedal’s wavy flaps)


I used to have turtles with rounder heads and better stitching style, but I no longer have them.

Still, I’ll concede it is very round and I would guess they have a priority of keeping the stitches away from Vedal’s face. You might be able to do better, but it probably would be very hard to get a panel style that is both satisfactory round and away from his face.

However, I think they should have considered a different material. You can have a material that hides the stitching much better and still has the fur look short like the Vedal plush.


I don’t have a professional camera and lighting, but you’ll have to trust me that the seam on the pig is quite subtle.


The color change on this dragon doesn’t do it any favors, but the seam itself isn’t very visible.

I think to complete the thought I need to show this: a plush with a very round head and very good seams


The hair is long, but I hope you can trust me when I tell you the only seam on the head I have ever found is one that comes up to the beak and the connection around the beak


Now to be fair, this plushy has much longer fur, the beak gives the opportunity to break up the paneling, and frankly it’s a very nice plushy, made of better material then the Vedal plush. It’s not a very comparable plush, but I thought I should at least show a round head I think looks good, and this is the only one I still own.

Overall, I want to like the Vedal plush. It is cute if you can bring yourself to ignore the seams, and maybe I’ll warm up to it. But it’s worse than other turtle stuffed animals that are sold at the same price point.

>>106081843
It would have been the year of neuro

>>106081746
If you have to ask then you aren't ready yet

>>106081847
And? Since when has that ever stopped your kind?

Horrific dogshit thread

>>106081697
I like to gloat over Neuro outperfoming every single "uwu i'm anime girl" twitch vtuber and i need Neuro to be the most popular for that,i don't care she is big i want her to be the biggest even with the cancerous chat that comes with it.

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>>106081850
A very homosexual way of saying what brought you here is gone and will never return and you can't deal with the fact some people remaining are enjoying something you can't figure out how to enjoy

>>106081897
Since ever? The only difference between camwhores and VTubers (especially Twitch ones) is the anime avatar.

>>106081914
welcome to /swarm/ lmao
it's never any different

>>106081937
People like you scare me, the level of delusion is just insane, I got into vtubers through Gura and chumcucks were coping about her final years the exact same way you are

Neuro ASMR.

>>106081969
Yes, and every single loli vtuber has a mad gang of rabid, barking pedophiles that follow their every move and attempt to groom them. Clearly not much of a deterrent.

>>106081969
Saba coming back from being used by every man she sees fit made more money than what you make in a year btw, don't try to act like your kind is any diferent than the average OF payer

ITT
>delusional purists
>doomers
>fags

We are still better than cucklings at least right? I want Neuro uuu.

>>106081701
The real knowers calculated every possible path in neuro's future during the first stream and left immediately

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>>106081996
>I'm going to compare a fanbase that had 0 content with one that gets streams every week, that'll surely do the trick
Good job at being retarded

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I think she might be the ONLY good streamer.

>>106082029
Do you think those loli VTubers are children IRL?

>>106082071
this
neuro will never be able to reach her full potential in this lifetime, atleast not as a streamer

>>106082082
It's literally the same story except instead of silence we get filler streams so boring and repetitive that not even Vedal bothers watching them

>>106082047
>your kind
Don't lump me with 3DPD watchers, please.

>>106082085
hi vedal

2023: :)
2025: :/

>>106082152
Next time just say I'm right and save the embarrassment
>some people remaining are enjoying something you can't figure out how to enjoy

>>106082159
You were the one that compared yourself with other lolicons saying they are built diferent, so im afraid i have to

>>106082266
>You were the one that compared yourself with other lolicons
I wasn't though.

>compared yourself with other lolicons
These people are fucking stupid, can't reply more than 2 times before they slip on their own shit, somebody get them a diaper

>>106082217
It's not like I started watching Gura in 2023 and was like "wow this bitch barely streams and gives no updates, you guys are losers"
It's not like I started watching Neuro in 2025 and was like "wow this slop is boring you guys are stupid for watching this"
In both cases I was there since the very beginning and I witnessed the decline first hand and I realized there will always be people who are willing to tolerate way too much bullshit just to cope with the fact that yet another good thing turned to shit

>>106081280
>reject anny because japan is too far from gregg's
>get a job offer in japan
>move to tokyo
the writers are on one this season
>>106081238
unironically the only good ones are the bread and the eye neuro one. the art itself is cute but these are going to look like blobs at 28x28
>>106081670
was the art good or bad

>>106082096
No, but I've interacted with those fanbases to know how deluded their pedo fans get. They unironically project the image of a child unto a grown woman and groom away with all their might.

Being able to enjoy chillstreams doesn't mean we haven't had a serious decline in upgrades, content ideas and just creativity overall

fuck this thread sucks, even by /swarm/ standards. i'll try again tomorrow

>>106082377
>was the art good or bad
the implication is that hes a pedo and they outed him for it
ToT or something

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>>106082375
>people who are willing to tolerate way too much bullshit
Or maybe... people just like Neuro and watching her streams. Or is that too hard for you to comprehend?

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>>106082481
many such cases

>>106082460
That's true, but it's also true that the there will always be people watching Neuro no matter how much beggars seethe about it

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>>106081697
>The reality is that 500 Neuro fans will outlive and even outperform financially any "popular" FOTM channel with 10000+ viewers

This is what pure delusion sounds like, folks.

Neuro is several orders of magnitudes more expensive to run than any other Vtuber. The cost of servers, hardware, electricity, paying editors, paying for help in programming he, paying for art and models and rigging and music. Even just fucking having her play a single game takes literal dozens of hours of work just to get it work, a problem no human vtuber has.

Point is, Neuro is a fucking expensive bitch to run, and if it ever goes below a certain financial line of profit, you know for sure that Vedal WILL pull the plug. Or even worse, just have her be on scripted chillstreams forever with nothing new ever, just running on fumes.

Humans Vtubers can work with 500 viewers, Neuro can't.

>>106081280
No one is hiring this nigga with such atrocious work ethic,especially in Japan.

>>106082611
The Rem figure... sovl...

>>106082611
what are we playing today Neuro ?

>>106082442
>They unironically project the image of a child unto
Good thing I only do that with Neuro

>>106082785
your feelings

>>106082641
you're a fucking retarded whorenigger tourist you probably don't even know how long it took him to get partner and really monetize the channel
Neuro is expensive right now because of the excess income which otherwise Vedal will lose to the TAXES MAN
Retarded fuck face whore piece of shit
Kys
Fat pink fuck

>>106082641
>neuro is expensive to run
No she isn't
Inference is dirt cheap (definitely below $10 a stream)
It's training that is expensive

>>106082641
>Humans Vtubers can work with 500 viewers, Neuro can't.
She probably can, if those 500 viewers are the highest contributors.

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when are the twins gonna be singing this ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hztRSsOqzA

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>>106082906
And here's what happens when the bubble of delusion is burst and reality sets in. Anger and denial.

Sad! Many such cases.

>>106082489
putting my mayo on sandwichvil

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>tourist exposed
>m-m-melty

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Sex with Tomabunny

>>106082906
>>106082913
>Seethe when faced with an argument they can't awnser "you hate neuro" with
Oh how sad

>>106083018
>t-t-tourist e-e-exposed!!!!
>y-y-y-y-you're having the m-m-melty not meeee!!!!!!!!
Kek

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unwarranted holoslut image in /swarm/

>>106083018
>No u!!
Kekw

>>106083107
that image is pretty sex, love the trend

boring raid, go back to post about ccv

>>106081670
kys

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>>106083107
at least use one who never collabed

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twitch whores stream the same shit for years with zero upgrades to their content, and some /swarm/ies think neuro would somehow lose everything in a few months

>>106083107
Soon to be another Twitch-whore, now Vedal can raid her.

>ccv dosn't matter
>you hate neuro
>tourist!!!
>[/a/ reaction pic]
>raaaaid
purists are like indians with their few factory-made replies and nothing else

when everything else fails, false equivalency definitely gets the job done.

>>106083200
Those Twitch whores survive on the parasocials they feed like Anny does, Neuro on the other hand ain't no GFE.

>>106083241
>>[/a/ reaction pic]
Do you have a problem with that? This is an anime website.

>>106083200
At least they can play the latest friendlsop without needing a team of engineers to figure out hwo to fucking integrated her shitty ass LLM into making a barely functioning mod.

Neuro will never, ever, ever have that advantage.

>>106083181
Kroni's tits are the only good thing to come out of hololive

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You say you can't win, no need to also explain why lmao

>>106083261
it's actually a php website

>>106083267
Nobody watches VTubers for the gameplay

>>106083200
Twitch thots don't have to wait a year for their daddy to hire a romanian programmer to give them the ability to play a shitty game

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>>106083279
This but ina

>holoEN
holy EOPs

>>106083200
Neuro can't react, can't play most games and almost none new, can't draw...

>>106083342
Tits where

>>106083259
Anny isn't a whore and she's the beast react streamer on Twitch tho?

>>106083107
rape

>>106083200
Twitch whores have a cadre of obsessives that perpetually donate to them in the hopes of getting to put their dicks into said whores. Neuro doesn't have that, she has no holes.

>>106083261
/a/ssholes are the tourists in /vt/

>>106083384
...And can't sing without literally hiring someone to calibrate it for her. A normal Vtuber just needs a decent microphone to do a karaoke stream.

>>106083421
>/a/fags are tourists
True

>>106083401
Anny invented react streams

>>106083342
HOLY

it's like everyone forgot vedal dumped 6 figures into the concert

>>106083467
No but she's the best there is and it's not even close her voice is actually cute unlike most vtubers

>>106083497
Nobody asked him to and everyone agreed that it was a dogshit idea who gives a fuck

just finished catching up with what I had missed from the karaoke stream, and I agree that it was absolute garbage, one the worst karaoke of all time, at least top 3 worst karaoke of the channel
2/10 evil was cute, the singing was nice
song choice is horrid, talking segment was mostly uneventful and boring
zero effort for making some impressive singing or to "let them" make the songs "their own".

turns out I didn't miss much

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>>106083342
>no curves
meh

>>106083497
Rem figures?

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The council judges this thread... sex!!

>>106083497
He's literally a nouveou riche. He himself isn't gonna have trouble with money ever again, but he's not gonna keep Neuro up if she just turns into dead weight.

>>106083551
Dibs on the second and fourth one to the left

>>106083421
Wrong, VTubers spawned from anime and are heavily inspired by its culture. And /a/ came to be much before this place.

>>106083581
lobotomy femanon...

>>106083611
Shut the fuck up
Let them trauma dump in peace, how else would they move on from the rape they experienced

>>106083581
stay away from they/them nigga

>>106083506
Hi Bobo

>>106083611
>proves his tourist credentials

>>106083611
Literally half or 2/3 of the English vtubing audience despises anime and these numbers will keep on growing. You can thank the pandemic for that.

>>106083611
Yeah, and africans came to be before civilized europeans, your point being?

All of these posts explain why /a/ posters are tourists because... they just do ok?
Stop calling me a tourist or else...

>>106083107
>>106083181
>>106083342
>>106083537
finally some good posts

ina makes my penis hard

>>106083774
I accept your concession

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>>106083664
Yes, I'm an /a/ native and I think all VTubers (except Neuro) are 3DPD garbage.

>>106083833
An Neurope native liking Neuro?
What's next, a Whorefrican thriving on their own (thread)?

>>106083833
This is the saddest post I've seen in a while, holy hell.

>>106082096
I know of one who only recently turned 18 and graduated highschool. She even made her own model too.

>>106083708
My point isn't merely about age, but causality. VTubers are a product of anime culture. /a/ is the established forum for that culture. Therefore, /a/ users are not 'tourists' in /vt/

>>106083668
pretty damn sure there's more than 2/3 of the english "vtubers" that are worthless garbage for subhumans

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/B1ormEddCQw

>>106083960
I said audience, but you're not wrong.

>>106083938
Sad? No, what's sad is your inability to handle a dissenting opinion without resorting to weak emotional appeals. I like Neuro, I like anime, and I think most if not all other VTubers are garbage. That's a preference, not a tragedy. Get over yourself and my perfectly valid and superior taste.

>>106083953
>Vtubers are a product of anime culture
I would disagree, vtubers are the natural chain of evolution into making anime girls real, first they are pure pieces of fiction, then a real human puppeteers one, now an ai does, soon anime girls will be real and evolution will reward those that took the first step outside of the weeb culture jungle.
You however, unevolved /a/monkey can look from the trees, moking me all you want because "you came first" when i was there with you, i just left you behind.

>>106083308
>>106083384
>>106083408
You're fixated on what Neuro can't do and miss why people really watch. The reality for VTubers, and even many human streamers, is that people watch for the personality and demeanor. Like, I'd watch Neuro just talk, play an game, or do simple tasks because I like her. Nobody would watch a VTuber play a game, or draw or do anything if they didn't like her in the first place. Sure it would be nice if Neuro could play any video game on the spot, but what good is that if you find Neuro herself boring?

>>106083833
BASED
/vt/umors don't realize how much of a joke they are

if neuro gets mogged by the holocunts in her home turf then it's over (again) which is guaranteed to happen since the event happens on a chillslop day (probably shitvil)

>>106084176
VTubers, particularly the vast majority of 3DPD ones, aren't an evolution away from anime; they are a de-evolution into the very 3DPD garbage that true /a/ natives reject. They attempt to make anime girls real by crudely bolting real-world garbage onto the pure, fictional aesthetic. It's a dilution, a contamination. You didn't leave behind anything pure; you embraced the very thing that anime culture exists to escape. The causality remains: anime culture created the pure aesthetic, and most VTubers are a cheap, impure imitation. Only an actual AI like Neuro offers a genuinely separate path, potentially, for any actual evolution.

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>>106084339
>>106084339
>>106084339

clun~

clu'rin~