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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/
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over 10k members doryaaaaaaaa
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDJtcmSbyUA
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pumpkin patch
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haha I'm sure its just a mistranslation, you can't trust red-
oh fuck
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>>106110526
she's already proven to have the most members, even more than gura like a year ago right?
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>I push my fingers into MY
>AYYYYYYYYYYYS
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>>106110584
who's them?
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>>106110567
>>106110584
Jealousy is ugly
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my wife
41 hours left
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>>106110594
is this the guy who got some advice by suisei?
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>no chammers news in 2 days
The only reason they're putting off announcing anything is because that announcement will be a negative one and they won't ruin the mood before the big HoloWitch event tomorrow.
Haachama will be terminated by Monday next week
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>>106110640
Forgot image
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>>106110567
Is this doomed yuri?
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>>106110613
other more successful holos
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>>106110656
>495
based, i also want shiori and erb gone
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>>106110656
Even the jap want her to take her fucking meds
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Not my oshi, Not my problem
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>>106110714
other holos asked haachama to make videos for them?
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>MAD town
>MAD numbers
Also, red pagpag's numbers are getting worse
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>>106110567
https://youtu.be/KTGlE3QXFDo
she talked about how she's actual tsundere (and a weirdo) literally hours before her breakdown
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>>106110648
>He thinks Cover will announce termination on Monday so everyone can dump their stocks
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>>106110648
Probably Saturday or Sunday
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QRD of the #truthnuke? Was she retarded enough to read through the catalog thread of her previous member's post?
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>>106110567
>SENPAI FORCE OTHERS TO LEZ OUT
>Makes this song
What did she mean by this?
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>>106110584
everybody in hololive knows what's going on with their money, how much they spent on project etc... but somehow haachama doesn't?
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>>106110813
yes
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>>106110813
Who the fuck is rae and kanna
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>>106110817
>There are lesbians in holo
>Didn't get invited to parties

SHE WANTED IN ON THE LESBIAN ORGIES!
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>>106110813
Maybe Haachama, but I don't think she'd use #truthnuke to refer to that
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>>106110813
probably, goddammit ollie stop coming /here/
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>>106110656
I hate to see it but from a wage slave perspective it’s true. If I complain about something fundamental to the business to my manager, I are giving them a signal that I am so troubled by the issue I am effectively willing to quit/be fired over it
That puts both of us in a hard spot because now what? Realistically my manager can’t change how the company works, and we both know that. It is why the common wisdom is to never complain about things that can’t change unless you are ready to leave
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>>106110813
I told her Kobo is better than her
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>>106110847
ID vtubers she's close with
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was I crazy or was there originally going to be a week long 7 days to die streams by mori?
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>>106110852
https://youtu.be/yNu6PfNzRLI
actually she said she's done with lezbo shit
I wouldn't take her song too seriously.
Also she has no idea if holos are actually dating (at lest didn't have during her stream with matsuri maybe matsuri told her something)
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>>106110857
Cause drama
If they terminate her she get pity points
If they don't she still get pity points from saviorfag/dramafag
win-win
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>>106110584
You know what would be better, not giving your hard earn money to your deadbeat families.
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retardchama in the stream she literally talked about the video clips she spent money to make and that couldnt pay up as she wanted, add to that she having to pay the interest free loans she takes for her failed projects like the artshit; her being shadowbanned by youtube which fucks her rev some more; and voila
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>>106110759
your oshi is getting railed right now naptranny
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https://streamscharts.com/news/vtubers-q3-2025-report
https://streamscharts.com/news/vtubers-q3-2025-report
https://streamscharts.com/news/vtubers-q3-2025-report
Holobros... what is happening?
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>>106110641
yes
it really is hopeless.
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>>106110911
She canceled it because of Kiara
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>>106110927
Nobody actually care about her
We only use her to shit on hololive/farm drama
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>>106110594
It's like whenever they interact with holo, their ccv just keep getting worse.
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>>106110927
>>106110584
retardchama in the stream she literally talked about the video clips she spent money to make and that couldnt pay up as she wanted (and which your faggot text leaves out), add to that she having to pay the interest free loans she takes for her failed projects like the artshit; her being shadowbanned by youtube which fucks her rev some more; and voila
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finally hololive is dying my prayers have been answered
phasegods our time to shine is now
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>>106110760
That's why you shouldn't read machine TL at face value anon. japanese is a very high context language, you have to fill in the blanks yourselves even at its original most proper form, contexts that aren't available in a paragraph of transcript.
She's talking about the videos she make herself for her channel, she wants Cover to pay her for thise but that's not how it works unless Cover is the one who instructed the video to be made.
Her complaining about English, Minecraft, etc are things that she used to be good at in holo, but eventually are being surpassed by other newer holos, with more time and resources to invest in their activities than her. She worked and trained herself for those skills without any pay or reward in the end which obviously frustrates her
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>>106110911
there were server issues so it got replaced with the holoween thing
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>>106110954
7 graduations
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>>106110911
Kiara said that management lost their server's save file which killed the members' motivation to do a 2nd season of 7dtd
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>>106110954
oh look its the meme engined watch hours retard again
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>>106110954
Huh. Any reasons why? Lack of events?
Gura wasn't streaming anyways so it definitely wasn't her.
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>>106110915
That is my point to some extent but I would argue even if they do everything to patch up the PR of the stream it’s too late. That stream says her mental state is bad enough to use the nuclear option
It’s not a knock on her or Cover but a reflection of how business relationships operate
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The reason why EN5 isn't here yet is because when the retards in high places consider a branch to be underperforming the first thing they do is delay the next one until the current gen starts doing well (according to their stupid metrics), they have multiple ID and Homo designs shelved indefinitely in various stages of completion because of this. (Omegay got Armis and the next homo gen greenlit back when Vesper was pulling good numbers but as we all know Armis underperformed and the entire branch fell off hard so unless a miracle happens the new homo gen is forever imprisoned in a hard-drive somewhere at cover)
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>>106110954
delete this
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>>106110813
>she read my post in which i wrote that it was a shame that she reconsidered
well i feel kind of bad now thanks ollie
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>>106110954
>phase isn’t even on the chart anymore
lol
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>>106110954
Man, Nijisanji literally had koshien buff and gta buff and they still cant beat hololive?
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>>106111050
wait but Armis flopped and never wasn't flopping and the entire branch collapsed and they still debuted four more pests and two dedicated cocksleeves to promote them
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>>106110954
That chart has never been correct a single time. Indies aren't a vtuber agency
Exclude independent then its:
HOLOLIVE 32%
Nijisanji 31%
VSPO 8%
Mythic 4.5%
etc
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>>106111034
what? are they planning to play the old version?
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>>106110949
Sit down monkey
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>>106110954
>they have removed phase
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I can't beleive Riona is breaking /#/
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>>106111040
Koseki didn't stream
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>>106111050
armis was never not a flop tho?
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>>106111110
youre not part of the club you disgusting cuck
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>>106110954
phasebros what happened?
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>>106111050
Also why the twitch thing is happening, they think that non-corpo indies streaming almost exclusively on Twitch is somehow killing their growth (those retards still expect COVID numbers)
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>>106110954
So phase went from 0.6% to 0% kek
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>>106111092
GTA started in october
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>>106110954
there was a cull in aug-sep on en side
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>>106110954
I thought Phase was the number one EN corpo
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>>106111040
More like Nijisanji had LOT of events during Q3
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>You're not part of the club
>posts cuck art
Sister..
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>>106110992
>She's talking about the videos she make herself for her channel, she wants Cover to pay her for thise but that's not how it works unless Cover is the one who instructed the video to be made.
That's pretty weird shit to complain about. If you weren't commissioned top edit a video obviously you are not getting paid. People paying other people to edit shit has fuck all to do with it.
She is not wrong about whole scheme being exploitative but obviously that's not the way to complain about it.
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>>106110992
i feel bad but what can anybody do?
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>>106110954
Vshojobros what happened? Oh wait, they all relegated into indie lol.
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>>106110954
Quick deflect to phase holobros
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>>106110954
its almost like holo just straight up lost members, while Niji very quickly replaced them, of course its gonna have an effect on watch hours
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>>106110954
lol so this is why nijisanji has been engining dozens of streams every day
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>>106111111
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>>106111050
>until the current gen starts doing well (according to their stupid metrics)
well the intention is good, they want to make sure that the old members already does well so that new members won't bury them
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>>106111178
>what can anybody do?
retranslate what she's saying until you find a translation that makes things sound better
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>>106111193
1/3rd of all viewers of corpos are watching Holo
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>>106111170
we dont like your kind here cuckling, go cry about your oshi being full of cum
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>>106111100
>>106110954
It does look like the indies are growing though. This is the chart from last year. 10+% growth.
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>>106111193
>Bvtpagpag seething
Kekaroo
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>>106111234
cringe text
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>>106110954
>doesnt show the total watch hours to make sure they cant be called out, as every month we saw they slashed numbers from hololive meme watch hours
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>>106111248
holosisters our response?
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>>106111245
kek, good one
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>>106111174
it is fucking bullshit how Cover expects talents to invest their own revenue in projects and music and then gets to take a cut of the earnings without sharing the risk
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>>106111248
Indies are irrelevant
>>106111246
You don't fit in
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>>106111272
fine, here's the cunny
https://litter.catbox.moe/rsj3hz.jpg
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>>106111094
>>106111141
Armis is the 2023 gen, some Tempus homos only debuted later in 2023 because of delays (they rushed the entire HolostarsEN thing due to the Vox numbers), the 2024 gen got canned
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>>106111248
>All of V-Shojo became Indies by July
No shit
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>>106110954
I like how people are ignoring three things:
1. Phase is so insignificant they're not on the list anymore
2. ExVshojo are counted as independent for the first time
3. Zentroon went from being first place almost every month to not even making the top 10 after twitch cracked down on bots. Ironmouse also took a huge hit. Miko and Pekora are now first by a huge margin .
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>>106111178
Maybe for her mega builds she should have invited holos on a tour and show it off. Pretty sure the majority of the EN girls don't know the half of chammers minecraft builds. Someone like Kaela would be good to do a build collab of aesthetics and practicality.
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>>106111142
LMAO go back Phasecuck
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>>106111309
>Indies are irrelevant
>Defending a married indie
What do you call this level of retardation? just simply being SEA?
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>>106110954
Did they fucking kick out Phase Connect for falling below 0.5% lol?
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>>106111248
>Growing
>less hours watch
You do know we use math itt right?
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>>106111309
>Indies are irrelevant
This isn't true no matter how much you shitpost about it
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>>106111328
>Zentroon went from being first place almost every month to not even making the top 10 after twitch cracked down on bots
kek
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>>106111342
Don't pretend to be a unicorn you stand out and can't even recognise others
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>>106111330
Minecraft just died, plenty of members were really into Minecraft but they moved on and adapted.
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I just came out of a nuke sub and have missed the last 4 weeks. What have i missed
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>>106111174
>exploitative
Unless you're a commie I don't see how.
If you don't want to invest anything to your brand or give back to your fans, you can always chill and collect money like Matsuri, Roboco or Choco. You still get annual merchs, sponsorships, and small revenue share of whatever generic things Cover sells from your IP.
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>>106111342
>"ackshually cuckposting is good!"
thanks m8
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>>106111368
Percentage-wise?
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>>106111330
yeah i remember her building shit but never did any further content about it
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>>106111159
No they had another gta madtown before this but that one was somewhere in jun
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reminder that napcucks and phasecucks are both, in fact, cucks
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>>106110954
where is phase???
>>106111248
but they were on it before!
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>>106110852
I can't believe the wasn't invited to the Miggy parties..
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>>106111301
true
but when you mention holos unionizing everybody starts to lose their shit
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>>106111328
Vshojo is clearly there still
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>>106111372
What's the title of the chart
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>>106110954
>>106111248
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>>106111328
Zentranny also had some drama that partially split his fanbase iirc
He was being really controlling on who one of his friends was friends with or some shit.
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>>106111248
No, look at the top where it says it's based on 4000+ chuubas in the old one and the latest one has 11 000+ chuubas in it, that 7k makes a difference even if it's shitters.
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>>106111384
Not much. New update in two days. Also, sisters have been on overdrive, and gremanyahu revealed himself.
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>>106111381
>im a unicorn for a married woman
You should go back to lig
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>>106111342
They are known by many name
One of which is copeling
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>still replying to me
Someone isn't white
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>>106111432
>IF WE ADD 7000 MORE VTUBERS THEN HOLOLIVE LOSES

Uhhh....
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>>106110954
>>106111248
>>106111432
And this is how you lie with statistics.
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>>106111385
>If you don't want to invest anything to your brand or give back to your fans
That's why it's exploitative isn't it? Yeah, if you want to coast and ignore your fans expectations you can just sit around and do nothing like ERB. If you have any goals or dreams you're going to be funding them yourself. That lets Cover offload the risk onto contractors, just like they offload the cost of hardware and tech support. Anything you need for your channel is at your expense; anything you earn is shared with Cover.
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>>106111432
oh lmao so they really went statpadding it to hell kek
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>>106111423
Someone post a picture of her actual face in the replies. Please, it would be really funny.
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>>106111462
>guys I swear shes still CGDCT
>just ignore her getting fucked every night
geniuenly sad to see
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>>106111480
but they are still ahead so thats not even true
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>>106111432
damn bro, they needed 7k indie vtubers to surpass hololive?!
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>>106111328
Zentranny was one of the fakest demons in the history of vtubing, nobody here gave a fuck because >twitch but the fact that her viewership drop overnight and """"she""" had a melty about it was hilarious to me.
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>>106111248
>>106111432
>comparing 10k indies with 50 holos
lmao
also holo lost over a gen worth of big names and hasn't debuted anyone new in JP or EN. no big events or box arcs either.
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>>106111432
>INCREASE SAMPLE SIZE BY MORE THAN 100% BY ADDING A SHITLOAD OF LITERAL WHO RANDOS
>ALL IT ACCOMPLISHES IS DELETING PHASE FROM THE LIST
Fucking KEK
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>>106111432
Not surprising then that Niji is basically untouched. They have like thousand of vtubers.
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>>106111467
>swinger parties for almost 4 months now
Damn girl, i hope you don't get the Enna.
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>>106111432
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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You just readjust the percentages with indies removed.
2/3rds of vtuber fans are still watching the same two corpos
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>>106111328
What did Zentraya snd IM have before Twitch's bot cull?
And I remember someone saying the former had a melty about it? Links?
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>>106111541
It's funny because Hololive will obviously have a raise in numbers in Q4 (Stuff like Countdown, HoloEN's fifth anniversary, Promise 3D, everything that has happened since Late September onwards) and these same niggers will say that it's because Hololive is botted
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>Clio
lmao
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>>106111432
It's funny because if you took a moment to think about it, 1-2 views are literally negligible.
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>>106111432
this is some tranny behaviour
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>>106111607
Nimi doko?
Indie avengers doko?
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>>106111607
kek
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>>106111493
They still could have Cover pay for them, but they have to pitch it to Cover properly. Koyori and Lamy financed their projects out of Cover this way for years. Kiara tried to as well with Holotori iirc.
It's only if you want to invest something with little to no discretion from Cover that you can ask them to finance it with no interest.
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>>106111607
Cliobots I mean bros we did it!
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>>106111607
>hours watched
>had to bring out twitch + youtube on a literal who so ironmouse's bots don't seem too obvious
lel
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>>106111607
PHASEGODS WE CAN'T STOP WINNING
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>>106111607
Where's the biggest vtuber of all time?
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>>106111607
>twitch + youtube
is this a new low?
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>>106111416
>>106111301
If they don't want to bear risks they need to pitch their projects to Cover
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>>106111683
also, why does only 1 girl have twitch+youtube and the others dont?
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>>106111607
isnt ironmouse living in burgerland?
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Reminder: they removed hours streamed which is the necessary context for hours watched to become important
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>>106111607
why doesn't bahroo share the mountain with the other male vtubers?
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>>106110775
>"I can't be with someone who is satisfied after catching someone"

Its acting like people who want a steady, happy relationship instead of an uphill battle like some Korean drama is trash. That is...kinda nuts of a mentality to have and feels like any relationship you think is viable is purely combative. Crazy.
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>>106111607
>Ironmouse first
>no airtime
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>>106111679
Having her two weeks worth of rest after streaming two days in a row
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>>106111607
>>106111432
vstats jap is a sellout shithead for working with these trannies
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>>106111714
Isn't that good though? I thought you all were complaining about IM's sleeping streams
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>>106111683
I barely heard anything about her this year how the hell is she even up there anyway?
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>>106111607
>Twitch+youtube
So this list will be nothing but holoEN members next month if they simulstream?
Who am I kidding, I know they'll stop adding the hours if that happens.
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>>106111646
>but they have to pitch it to Cover properly
yeah meanwhile cover doesn't need to pitch shit, wastes money on garbage with zero oversight or consequences. and holos need to prove their every idea as if it's not them who made hololive popular in the first place. Cover is one who should be proving that they can do shit properly and every time they fuck it up
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>>106111714
>>106111733
To hide all the sleeping afk hours
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>>106111607
oh look, they suddenly removed the total hours streamed again!
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>>106110477
Gigi would never do this
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>>106111703
cover has no way to know which idea is good or not
pitching them shit is a waste of time
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>>106111747
i dont even know who that is
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>>106110915
It doesn't work that way with hololive. The fanbases all hate drama
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0 ppm queen mention.
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>>106111762
>doesn't need to pitch shit
Quite literally everything needs to be pitched, every time something is done somebody pitched it
Are you retarded?
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>>106111746
why would less info be good?
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>>106111799
Sorry I forced her to do that actually
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>>106111607
>hours watched
This is a worthless metric lol,
>>106111660
>michi
>who
This nigga delusional
>>106111747
Huge subathon
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>>106111746
What? They removed it so that we couldn't make fun of IM, it's not complaining to look at the context and make fun of the result
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haachama should just rape miko like miko did to pekora
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>>106111732
that's not what they meant?
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>>106111799
she would for me
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>>106111820
this is a low 3view chatspeed
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>>106111703
Cover's ideas are disastrously bad and every middle manager should be publicly crucified
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>>106111759
Michi is friends with this guy, so no.
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>>106111859
>this is a low 3view chatspeed
Look at where the engine picked up..
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>>106111844
>Huge subathon
How long?
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Honestly, its intolerable how you all are so insistant on enjoying Hololive despite knowing how much I hate them. It's literally fatherless behavior. No manners, no class.
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>>106111559
>As of October 2025, there are approximately 238 active Nijisanji talents
Jezas, thats a fuckload of fodder
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>>106111856
stop posting here mori
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>>106111762
EnReco was voted to be one of the most popular EN events last year.
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>Youtube + Twitch
>No Stream hours
>Add a billion ligger streamers to inflate ligger share
Dishonest nig attitude by streamscharts
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>>106111893
I dont even know you
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>>106111821
who pitched HLZT to who?
if you don't understand what I mean you might be too retarded to have this conversation in the first place
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>>106111879
it can start before a real viewers growth had the chance to stabilize anon, dont be so dumb. Anyways botting low 3views to nearly 10ks is ridiculous either way
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>>106111820
THE CLIO MOUNTAIN
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>>106111785
Including total watch hours when it doesn't benefit hololive but removing it when it benefits indies really flushes their credibility down the toilet.
Along with now increasing their sample size by more than 100% and the outright writing with a straight face that corpos their market share dropped.
A 6 year old wouldn't get duped by this.
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>>106111909
voted by who?
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>>106111762
It's extra annoying because Cover has proven that they can do things properly and efficiently.
Cover wants sponsors and collaborations so they have to be "proper" about their contracts/investments? Then why is a majority of their income from their own self-produced merchandise?
I thought about this all the way when Mel got fired, because the general gist of it was that she did break an NDA and if they just let her be other companies wouldn't view hololive as trustworthy... but even then they earned enough from their own projects that they could dunp every collaboration and still turn a profit.
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Our YT rep posted:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PPqonprIF5o
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PPqonprIF5o
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PPqonprIF5o

Verdict:
ExHolo ENs are thriving. ExHolo JPs are not doing that well but overall they still earn more because of lesser cuts
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>>106111081
I blame Ohtani too, he fucked up last game
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>>106111923
Cover business development staffs to Cover upper management obviously, are you retarded?
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>>106111884
It lasted a month i think and when she went to sleep someone else would be on stream (ollie showed up there multiple times)
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Shondo is getting cooked in the qrts
https://x.com/fallenshadow_YT/status/1983764855250178462

>>106110954
Phasecucks....
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Mori SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
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>>106111961
kys doxxsagi
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>>106111961
Don't click doxxsagi on screen.
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>>106111806
>>106111872
They'll trust your pitched project more if you have track record.
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>>106111961
Not watching but is this just money? Because that is meaningless, money is a resource that everyone is forced to use it's not a measurement of anything
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>>106111943
Look at the timescale
By 40 minutes the engine was pushing it through to upper hundreds, by the time it breached 1k two hours had passed and the engine was vertical
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>>106111893
Hi Saba.
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>>106111961
>ExHolo ENs are thriving
fauna's avg ccv in holo was 9-10k, now she's at 5-6k and it's only going to go down from here once she gets impregnated.
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>>106111961
Baaaaassed burn it down indie power!!
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>>106111909
it doesn't fucking matter
cover's retardation already damaged holoEN irreparably.
the problem is that "decision makers" can just do whatever the fuck they want while talents are left to pick up the slack
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>>106111985
Is she the next GOOGLE DOCKEY potential target?
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Hours watched is a worthless metric, it should be CCV averaged with chat speed.
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>>106111985
>groomers and pickme whores attacking the pickme whore
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>>106111961
based
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>>106111957
It's not really fair for the other members if the mistake of one ends up negatively affecting the rest of the members business prospects
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>>106112087
>"take the indie pill holobro."
>the indie pill....
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>>106112058
>fauna's avg ccv in holo was 9-10k
No tf it wasn't, she went there multiple times in her career but like 70% of the time it was around 4-7k
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>>106112023
spoken like a true seething poorfag
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>>106111961
This guy has a second channel?
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>>106112063
they can't help themselves but to shit on Haachama
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>>106111961
brain ass dead take some fag reading this board has no insight into anything
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>>106112023
>money is useless
bruh
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>>106112149
Post the numbers then
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>>106111969
it didn't come from some nobody "staffs" it came from leadership and was approved without much thinking. they had everything - sponsorships lined up, "projects", stupid as fuck announcements.
and they frontloaded all of this unnecessary shit onto not at all esport oriented and already overworked talents. How the fuck is something super retarded like this gets approved while holos need to fight an uphill battle for basically everything?
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>>106112081
quite the opposite, corpos put hours watched in their reports and not ccv or chat stats
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>>106111607
is this retarded chart the reason why yagoo wants holoEN to stream on twitch?
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>>106112129
It's not fair on the girls to treat it as some 20th century thing.
No one in Cover matters except the holos. No sponsor or partner matters outside of the fans.
Fair is prioritising everyone except the ones in suits
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>>106112149
wrong
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>>106112081
it should be gallons lost
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>>106111961
meanwhile, I have actually ran the numbers on nimi a few days ago, just using an excel with copypasting vstats pages

she never had a month with average vod views below 100k as fauna, yet now shes achieved a sequence of 3 straight

month year ccvmedian avgvodviews
TEMP oct 25 7510 77k
sep 25 6779 71k
aug 25 6961 92k
LLD: 21 july
jul 25 11778 146k
jun 25 10197 134k
may 25 14065 168k
apr 25 14337 217k
mar 25 14768 250k
feb 25 14315 248k
jan 25 21891 416k
NIMI REDEBUT
jan 25 32966 982k
dec 24 19049 239k
nov 24 13127 154k
GRADUATION ANNOUNCEMENT
oct 24 11989 128k
sep 24 10546 118k
aug 24 11246 108k
jul 24 9766 122k [xtra ccv cull]
jun 24 9826 101k [xtra ccv cull]
may 24 11011 104k
apr 24 10675 320k
mar 24 12075 128k
feb 24 12064 119k
jan 24 14784 178k
dec 23 10433 113k
nov 23 9058 110k [xtra ccv cull]
oct 23 10179 203k
sep 23 8825 138k
aug 23 8877 126k
jul 23 8711 219k
jun 23 8977 222k
may 23 7815 243k
apr 23 9053 139k
mar 23 8776 199k
feb 23 8455 327k
jan 23 8265 130k
dec 22 8800 221k
nov 22 8210 264k
oct 22 9525 269k
sep 22 8774 124k
aug 22 11096 145k
jul 22 9168 301k
jun 22 10603 201k
may 22 7469 218k
apr 22 8708 217k
mar 22 7865 192k
feb 22 6153 361k
jan 22 6500 238k
dec 21 6591 195k
nov 21 7348 273k
oct 21 8261 315k
sep 21 9751 241k
aug 21 19189 675k
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seriously just drop EN5 already and everyone's worries and anxieties would disappear overnight I have no fucking clue what management is waiting for
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>>106112149
>lying in the numbers thread
retarded cuckling
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>>106112191
>it come from [delusions]
okay anon
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>>106112019
who the fuck are they tho? what about 'track record???
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>>106112221
>dec
do u rly
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>>106112183
Don't fake quote me you literal insect brain
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>>106111961
>ExHolo JPs are not doing that well but overall they still earn more because of lesser cuts
That's like saying the sky is blue lol, if a channel is making 50% (including members, merch and etc) of what they did at a corpo they're actually making around the same amount
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>>106111985
>that said, if there are robberies in your area, it's not a bad idea to lock your door. if someone starts yelling about how you're oppressing them by telling people to do that, they might have a reason to feel so personally slighted.
Wait do British people not lock their doors? Isn't this something everyone does? Are bongs weird in the head?
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>>106112058
>only talking about Fauna
So he's right then
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>>106112235 me
>>106112058 correct
>>106112149 wrong
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>>106111203
But that’s pretending Niji didnt engine a shit time before. They have always been botted
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>>106112235
GRIM
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>>106112173
should call it a cooperative
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>>106111961
Your life is LITERALLY as valuable as a summer ant, pagsagi.
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qrd on shondo and bao,
and haachama, and sinder, and miko, and the new phase girl
i feel like a lot of drama has happened this october lmfao
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>>106112235
But Naplings told me she didnt have unicorn fans who cared about the LLD?
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>>106112270
>dec
Read again
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>>106112265
we literally have A FACE attached to hlzlt you retarded cuck
you don't know anything
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>>106112235 me
i also couldnt remember the exact dates of the older ccv culls, but pretty sure those drops at early 2022 were culls too, because i remember their new years outfits streams getting fucked
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>>106111989
Based
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>>106111961
>ExHolo ENs are thriving. ExHolo JPs are not doing that well but overall they still earn more because of lesser cuts
you made me watch the vide and he literally never said any of this
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>>106112246
More graduations?
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>>106112235
Oh shit actual numbers in the numbers thread
The LLD really did fuck with her audience
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>>106112279
in what shithole do you live in?
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>>106112235
>she never had a month with average vod views below 100k as fauna
That's actually insane
Also this just shows that the LLD did have an impact despite what some people try to deny. I wonder what excuses OKBH would come up with to counter this?
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>>106112311
>shondo and bao
They told girls to avoid male (fleshie) streamers who are much bigger than them, male vtubers took this as a declaration of war
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>>106112273
>That's like saying the sky is blue lol
that might shock some, also mud is not a solid building foundation
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>>106112348
20lb is way too much more to lose though. That would turn her into a deadbeat herself.
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>>106112283
all the JPs are crashing hard, dooby is barely relevant or streaming and hardly thriving, saba's lows are already lower than her all time lows were in hololive and she's already starting to disappear for weeks. did i miss anyone?
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>>106112215
Suisei would graduate if she can't collab with Bushiroad, performs Gundam ED, invited in Coca Cola fest, etc because Cover wouldn't properly enforce any of their rules to their talents damaging their credibility.
Even in your set of priority, there will still be cases where conflicts occurs and hard decisions have to be made.
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>>106112374
what the fuck i love shondo and bao now
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>>106112235
I'm pretty sure anyone with even the slightest ability to interpret numbers would agree that the LLD dropped her viewerbase by a good 30-40%
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>>106112363
Do you also not lock your car when you park it? Wow people really do live like they do in the movies.
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>>106112311
Bao called out male vtubers for trying to groom 1-2 views
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>>106112270
it's the full year retard, here's jan to nov which doesn't include her graduation tour. still over 9k.
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>>106112235
holy numbers
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>>106112388
Wait I just saw what the post I replied was actually referencing, damn she looks good but where did her tits go?
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You can leave your doors unlocked if you live with white people, this is old news.
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>>106112129
Thing is they wouldn't be negatively affected. Not saying that Mel shouldn't have been forced to tske a course or something but showing that the talents are everything would make sponsors flock to them AND Cover.
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>>106112374
It’s the temporarily embarrassed millionaire syndrome except with 1 view indie males who are upset that they won’t be able to groom girls when they become popular
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>>106112461
God knows how many sports bras she's wearing in that pic
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>>106112390
>JPs are crashing hard
They are literally having lot of collabs and sponsored streams
>Saba and Dooby
They are getting more money than in holo
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>>106112391
The premise is false.
They will work with Hololive even if they don't "trust" them.
Hololive is the future. They are the past.
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If a holo who averaged 5K on youtube starts averaging 5K+2.5K due to simulcast i bet they will try to force everyone else to do it
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>>106112235
To be fair, the ASMR on the Fauna channel made a decent contribution to those VOD views, but this is still a significant drop off.
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>>106112390
tell me, what was happening during saba's all time low ccv record? And what were her likes for that stream? In fact, what kind of numbers was HoloEN pulling at that same exact time?
>starting to dissapear for weeks
>starting
lol
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>>106112369
>I wonder what excuses OKBH would come up with to counter this?
She's not phase, so they will call her a shitter too.
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>>106112504
Hololive is a corporation like any other, if it starts sleeping at the wheel it will crash
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>>106112461
She is wearing 2 layers over what is probably multiple sports bras. Regular bras don't make boobs look like that unless they are bad implants, which we know for sure she doesn't have lmao.
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>>106112369
Of course the LLD had an impact, everyone with a brain could see that shit coming. Her average vods had been going down before the graduation tour either way because she stopped doing ASMR. ASMR was and still is the biggest cheat code but Mr nightmare don’t want sapcucks/napcucks enjoying his wife that way
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>>106112369
>>106112235
>>106112417
its not like we hadnt already identified this on her subs growth, but more data is alwasys good
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>>106112235
BASED actual numbers in the numbers thread
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>>106112537
Nope, you should see the last time they discussed this
https://www.reddit.com/r/okbuddyhololive/comments/1nw909x/vt_does_schizo_analysis_on_graphs/
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>>106112551
Not interested in monkey catchphrases.
If they didn't fire Mel every company would still be doing business with Holo the EXACT same amount.
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>>106112565
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>>106112235
>>106112565
We now have irrefutable proof that the LLD fucked her channel, this is what the numbers thread is for
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>>106111985
>cooked
>retards that write like twitter niggers, the same ones who hate on Mori every week cicle
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>>106112342
Which won't be getting any of his future projects approved because their project failed. he's probably in a coffee room somewhere because Cover or japanese businesses in general refuses to fire staffs.
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>>106112565
Sub growth rate isn't really related to active viewer count, though
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>>106112427
forgive him anon, you know copelings are brown and cant read
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You niggers actually starting to sound like nijifags with how hard you focus on ex holo.
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>>106112682
Uh oh cuckling melty
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>>106111989
where
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>starting to sound like niji-
hide all
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>>106112652
the problem is that there are more retards like him who's ideas are unproved and are getting approved uncontested meanwhile holos who literally made hololive need to fight for their ideas
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>>106112614
I find it interesting that Fauna's subs ticked down 10k that day, but Nimi's subs didn't tick down even 1k. Stopped ticking up, yes, but didn't tick down.
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>>106112622
Idk man we saw it with Nyanners and Veibei, who could have seen this coming?
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>>106112682
>PLEASE DONT TALK ABOUT HER DYING NUMBERS PLEASEEE
cuckling.....
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>>106112682
anons are picking on you for trying to lie for so long, anon, not her
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>>106112610
You mean like when they didn't fire Coco and the entirety of China still collabs with Hololive after the success of Azur lane?
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>>106112682
>NOOOOOOO WHY CANT I LIE ABOUT NUMBERS IN THE NUMBERS THREAD NOOOOO
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>>106112682
We HAVE to crucify the traitors! Also they were always bad even when they were in Holo
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Kronii will stream tomorrow I foreseen it happening
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>>106112732
The entire problem with cover is pretty much every person without a real job, like lighting or something.
Office people are useless. They need to have a reason to exist so they create them
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>>106112747
I’m shit talking Nimiwhore with you faggot but you niggers literally have to keep adding Dooby and Saba in there as side insults. Fuck you even adding Shachi sometimes in there too just to keep sucking Cover’s dicks. Meanwhile how is cover rewarding you?
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>>106112661
not totally, but those are 2 different metrics of hers that fell of a cliff after the LLD, which makes trying to deny the effect it had on her all the sillier
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>>106112745
>veibae
Bad example, if she started leeching hard from Soda instead of going into multiple hiatuses she would actually be bigger than Ironmouse
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>>106112765
Chinese are literally begging for more and have been since Cover left China.
Why are you implying China left Cover?
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>>106112682
I think Saba will be fine, probably settle around 12k for regular streams. Do 20k+ on karaoke. Nimi is just interesting to discuss and see how low she will fall and maybe eventually stop streaming altogether due to having to take care of the kid.
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What is this shitter talking about? Did I miss another niji drama?
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>>106112791
calm down samefag
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>>106112181
GENUINELY fucked up to use a girls actual diagnosed and medicated mental illness to shit on her coworkers and workplace
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>>106112814
literally nobody has said anything about the other 3 in this thread retard, stop concerfagging
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>>106112891
This is indirect response to the Reimu/Bari shit where it was implied they bullied Ike
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>>106112235
Important context:
All Myth and Councilrys members are experiencing a similar drop in monthly avg VOD views especially this year. They also have the added advantage of being raided from other Holo members. This is specifically relevant for Mori, Bae and IRyS. Luckily the 'engine' has little effect on the VOD views so we can ignore the botter.
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>>106112927
>seething zhang being a zhang
? Follow the conversation next time
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>>106112947
you cant just say that and not show the numbers anon, he did the work
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This is what Akai haato should do to save her career:
- Stop trying to be a music Holo, which is not her strong suit.
- Play good games
- No friends in Holo? Start collabing with Jp streamers, vtubers, males are accepted as long as they are bigger
- Join VCR events
- Need a model upgrade to mark a new start
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>>106112796
meanwhile they didn't even have enough managers lol... I think it's better now? but it wasn't like half a year ago
insanity
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>>106112947
Post numbers comparing them or shut up
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>>106112927
remember how some retards said Cover was the one who blocked muse dash collabs over unfounded fear o strikes lol
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>>106112993
Ewwww a beggar
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>>106111320
Wada Wau is a genius
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>>106112891
leak showed her and the other bitches acting like bitches also the manager ike was talking to is rumored to be millie
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>>106112927
And do they regret that?
Does Bushiroad still work with hololive?
Is China begging for crumbs whilst Cover gives them the bare minimum?
No one is denying that China did try to fuck hololive over, but Cover did the right thing by protecting Coco, and years later the companies' interests are still in trying to get work with Cover.
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>>106112947
yea im sure they all suddenly fell off hard on exactly july 21th too
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>>106112993
>- Play good games
she is dogshit at streaming and playing games tho...
her brain is too broken
her dbz streams were pathetic
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>>106112891
Shielding from potential ike discord leak.
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>>106112971
>and have been since Cover left China
you said that, anon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS3ROw0X8VE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS3ROw0X8VE
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>>106112993
Like a vulture the beggar will swoop down and encourage their prey to jump off a cliff
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>>106113044
>21th
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>>106112745
For those who missed, a contemporary chart
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>年内で新会社つくります。ホロの初代統括マネ(マネちゃんって言われ始めたやつ)と一緒に。

t. the ex-frog

Thought some of you might be interested
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>>106112993
She should get fired aready, I wanna shit talk her and list all the dumb shit she done openly and have other Holo fans agree with me
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Copelings are so funny, even ITT they are still coping
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>>106112563
>ASMR was and still is the biggest cheat code but Mr nightmare don’t want sapcucks/napcucks enjoying his wife that way
You're retarded. She has done ASMR since you fucking idiot. She doesn't want to put it on main because she doesn't want the retarded ASMR beggars to bother her on her main, especially when it's become something she only does when she gets the random inspiration to. You faggots are literally obsessed with bringing "mr nightmare up" to the level that you'd ignore reality. Are you fucking gay
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Why haven't Bae and Ina graduated yet?
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>>106113090
Didn't she almost stop streaming after that though? Not really a good example.
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>>106113071
It's still true retard, your retard example is nothing to do with business, finance, corporate relations or anything its some faggot seething about people streaming their game.
Stick to the topic if you're going to discuss it.
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>>106113111
Gunrun 2.0 in the making
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>>106113111
Like the azki frog?
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OH NO NO NO Holobros!!
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>>106113111
which frog? innk frog?
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>>106113111
Wasn't frog absolutely dogshit
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>>106113111
Avenger bros it is our time
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>>106113111
When people say "ex-frog" my first thought is of AZKi' sold producer st INNK
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>>106113111
We have frog in holo?
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>>106113111
nice link faggot, im sure it is real
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>>106113140
Not immediately after but the effects were immediately felt
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>>106113135
bae is forever in debt and ina just chilling
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>>106113135
Why do you think they want to graduate?
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>>106112682
>claim how ex holos are better than ever
>someone points out how that's not true
>WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH EX HOLOS
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>>106112847
Cover left China 5 years ago anon. Holos can only play mahjong soul and genshin this year
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>>106113186
on one hand yes on the other he did accept suisei
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>>106113258
That's still game perms anon
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>>106113178
>7:30 am
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IF HOLOLIVE ISN’T A BLACK COMPANY HOW COME BAE HAS TO WIPE HER BUT WITH TWO (2) PLY PAPER WHILE MARINE HAS PERFUMED FOUR (4) PLY FOR HERS!?!?!
>HOLOBROS WILL DEFEND THIS!
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>>106113090
This very image shows a declining trend starting before her reveal
Interestingly, Nimi's decline also starts before her own reveal
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>>106113111
New vtuber company in this day and age?
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I hate perfumed toilet paper
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>>106113248
they become irrelevant
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>>106113308
Maybe someone in her household bought a gigantic bulk pack of the cheap shit by accident and now she has to use it up
No I'm not projecting
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>>106112796
This, streamers don't need an office of managers to function. OTK and OTV work just fine without buying a multi-million dollar studio and sinking money into shitty ventures like holoass and HLZNTL, at this point holos are better off just leaving and forming their own group rather than feeding management leeches.
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>>106113322
A recline from her absolute peak (when VShojo had three 5 views) but still in line with her regular range.
From that point on it was straight into her all time low never to recover
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>>106113322
point out to me where anon, and i made you the favor to already cross out the two outliers
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>>106112947
Let's see the numbers. Do the work like the other anon
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>>106113368
I asked about "want to"
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>>106113368
you were never relevant so why dont you graduate from life
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>>106113308
Bae's butt isn't big or juicy enough for 4ply
I don't make the rules, bony-ass rat
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>>106112063
Haato would unirronically reach low 3 view status if she left. Much more popular JPs are struggling. Meanwhile she's borderline 3 ciew in hololive.
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>>106113292
Isn't that the shithole of britbong aka bogan
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>>106113390
>OTK and OTV work just fine without buying a multi-million dollar studio
True, the only multimillion stuff they bought was the house and the cars.
In any case

1) aren’t they soundly outranked by Hololive?
2) what goes for them is replicable by any Tom, Dick and Harry or the great majority of the streamers in the industry are not like them?
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Mori SEX
I never doubted
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>>106113389
>APPEAL TO WOMEN
>nyoooooo don't wanna, I'm gonna go eat kthxbye (t. fuma)
Just have Rio transition fully and join a girls group or something
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>>106113322
>Guys Nimi's numbers where already dying, ignore her revealing her husband
what do you gain from this?
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Hmmm...is Mori becoming more beautiful the more she ages?

I understand haglovers now.
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>>106113511
HAGLOVERS BTFO!
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>Holofags work at nasdaq
WTF
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>>106113535
kek what a hack
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>OTK in 2025
I sleep
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>mixing up where and were
How is that even possible
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>>106113476
Nacho is the biggest hack in vtuber illustration, all three of those girls are borderline identical. Gura was a fluke.
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SUPER SENTAI BROS…. ;-(
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>>106113510
Her numbers in certain streams started declining around two months after debut and by the time of the LLD she was almost always under 10k. i know this because i remember brownfeet spamming the catalog with them
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>>106111961
Did this guy just become a full dramatuber? The fuck is this shit
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BUY $KRONII
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>>106113605
>become
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>>106113308
I genuinely hate this fucking poorLARPing they do. It's so tasteless. Especially when "millionaire livestreamers pretending to be working class" is a disgusting cliché on twitch done by actual psychopaths trying to manipulate retarded zoomers.
Not to mention the Holo antis it fuels.
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>>106113605
>become
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where is she
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>>106113161
>>106113183
That'd be correct.

>>106113186
Nah, he was pretty good at INNK. INNK was a shitshow and left Suisei to rot, but that was due to a lack of staff and INNK was more then just him. AZKi enjoyed working with him heavily to the point she wrote a goodbye song for him in... I want to say Over Light but I don't really remember which of the songs she released at that time it was. He then ended up at Kamistubaki where he was managing Harusaruhi and Jouchou while also running their 3D lives, which is why if you look back at some of the more recent Youtube ones, you'll note they look like INNK productions.

>>106113207
>he can't @ his oshi's ex-manager

Believe me or don't, he made a spinoff Discord server after AZKi's old fanbox Discord server stopped accepting new members, and he posts random shit in it sometimes that is relevant to Vtubers. Any Soratomos should recognize this guy who's in the same server, not gonna post the frog or AZKi's old profile so people can't bug them while Daisuke uses the same name everywhere.
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>>106113605
what the christ are those views why does anyone know this faggot's name
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>>106113585
I don't buy it, they'll probably just change it from being every year to every 2
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>>106113627
zzzzzz grow a spine
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HOLOBROS
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>>106113585
Eh hasbro will take over im sure
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>>106113627
Where is the larp?
Wasting money on useless shit when you have a job that isn't going to last a lifetime is how you become homeless before middle age
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>>106113483
They're more popular than hololive in the only market that counts, without needing to spend money on leeches.
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>>106112838
>>106113140
>huh her numbers dropped after BF reveal
>not a good example
>wait she stopped streaming cus she too busy getting PLAPPED and getting pregnant
>irrelevant
KEK whats the play here? You a Napcuck still coping that now you gotta defend Nyanners and Vei too?
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>>106113688
Power rangers branched off from Sentai ages ago
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>>106113694
So true saar that's why I wipe my ass with my left hand
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>>106111432
The side effect is killing phase in the graph lol
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>>106113598
yeah and her numbers are EVEN LOWER now, why do you think that is, what changed pray tell
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>>106113694
Good looking people don't become homeless
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>>106113728
Hasbro is definitely interested in acquiring it though
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THE SHOEBOX
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>>106113694
Nigger they're not fucking poor
No they didn't "blow up all their savings on le gacha and labubus"
No they don't owe Yagoo 5 trillion dollars that they totally can't pay back
No they don't have to live off bread and water.
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>>106113734
>wiping your ass with paper instead of water
All civilized people use bidets, and you save money in the long run
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>>106113476
the fucked up part is, they just debuted, this is as popular as they'll ever be
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>>106111607
>Above Neuro
Are phasefags gonna realize something is wrong?
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>>106113308
>using tissue paper to wipe your ass instead of using a bidet or washing your ass with water and soap like a civilized person.
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>>106113476
Damn ex HoloEn dropped like 3-4k ccv average each but the JPs fucking free fell HOLY SHIT
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>赤井はあとの契約解除(クビ)が決まったよ おそらく明日ポストがある
>赤井はあとの件で上層部がブチ切れで今日1番パワハラも酷かったわ
>Akai haato's contract termination has been decided. A post should be up some time tomorrow.
>Upper management is furious with this incident and the power harassment today was the worst I've experienced
From same ipadress of the cover leaker that leaked ao, chloe, etc
haatons better start archiving her videos because it'll be deleted by tomorrow
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>>106113510
>>106113598
Not exactly, she had a perfect 5view record from debut to June. She took a break around March-April due to her cat's death and this gave her a small drop in numbers but not enough, she was still a 5view.

She has her first ever 4view stream on June 10th (Deltarune was a numbers graveyard) but her average is still 10k, then comes July and with it a boost in numbers, until the LLD + Cull combo crashes her numbers and they have not recovered since.

Her numbers started to decline in May, but her average was still strong, it wasn't until the LLD that she actually tanked.
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>>106113522
tits too small
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>>106113764
hasbro can't even produce a power ranger show at the moment
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>>106113821
To be fair both Shion and Chloe were hard carried by their models.
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>>106113476
No Blue Dorito = No watch!
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>>106113823
tomorrow was today
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Reminder you can't trust people that use bidets, they're always from sexually perverse nations that historically got shafted by other races
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>>106113823
3rd day in a row this got posted btw
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>>106113707
Idk why you think i'm also defending Nyanners but all i'm saying is that Soda is bigger than all western vtubers and Veibae leeching less than half of his audience would make her the biggest Twitch vtuber but she didn't do that, she barely appeared on his channel and as i said before went on multiple hiatuses
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>>106113823
People said this yesterday too
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>>106113643
Back to 2022-23 IRyS that doesn’t fucking stream
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>>106113823
You already posted this yesterday
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>>106113785
So true wypipo ain't civilized, slant eyed chinkoids who shit in holes are the true leaders of civilization
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>>106113821
Most non first-army JPs are all carried by the JP box which is huge. There is no real EN box, it's tiny in comparison so most people only have their actual fans watching. That's why ENs tend to have lower CCV than JPs.
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>>106113823
>Akai haato's contract termination has been decided. A post should be up some time tomorrow.
You already posted this yesterday, you fucking retard.
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>They underestimated demand again
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>>106113832
anyone that comes here knows this, its just naplings that refuse to see the truth
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>>106113877
Soda is just a wow player anon, his audience is 50 year old men
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BAE PLUSHIE SOON
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>>106113476
why hasn't Nimi saved them?
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>>106113867
So according to you India is the best country in the world?
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>>106113899
White people use bidets. Wash your ass, it stinks.
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>>106113877
Soda’s numbers literally dropped off too after the reveal but you keep on coping
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>>106113823
This is unironically good for her. Being a normal person working a normal job isn't too bad sometimes.
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>>106113960
It's still a bidet if you're using your hand with water
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WORLD TOUR
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>>106113998
Bidets aren't widely used in a single white country
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>>106113959
No numbers, no cares
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>>106113823
I can't believe Haachama has been terminated thrice HOW MUCH MORE WILL THEY TERMINATE HER WHAT IS EVEN LEFT TO TERMINATE
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>>106114000
Because we all supported soda a gay not soda and his png gf
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>>106113823
>From same ipadress of the blablabla
that retard fucked herself over and was revelaed to be a nijisister lol
>>106108800
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>>106113646
>he was good at INNK
Maybe he was cherished but being good at management necessarily needs good results to be true.
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>>106113585
its not ending its just rebranding to be globalized since japs don't care about it anymore
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BOGOS BINTED
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Why didn't IRyS join the EN collab? She wasn't in GG's birthday one too. Even Bae joined
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>>106114076
She's on vacation
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>>106113522
I miss Mumei's saggers
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>>106114059
Their merch is retarded. It's all toys that make a shit ton of noise.
Kids have phones.
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>>106114087
By herself?
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>>106114036
>>106113823
>47 year old Nijisister
>kanae stan
>prior record of summary indictment
LMFAO
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>>106114076
she can't call in on the flame bro
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You fuckers have the same exact fucking conversation about Nimi every fucking day do you not get tired of this
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>>106113867
Used to think bidets would make me gay but now I can’t live without my bidet. Was going crazy and felt dirty when my bidet broke. Was gonna wait a couple months but ended up splashing the money for an even better one after a couple of weeks .-.
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>>106114103
Nta but vacation/holiday usually just means from work not necessarily toward a location
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>>106114121
NIMISEETHE
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>>106114121
Why come here if you still like and watch her?
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>>106113694
>>106113782
this, Stronny from fucking VAllure earns 13k USD per month, these HoloEN girls easily get 30k+ USD
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>>106114115
Literally all this, if IRyS didnt go she didnt get personally invited cus they she wouldn’t be able to say no. She didn’t show up that means they just did a discord ping to @everyone
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>>106114143
She's flying on a plane >>106114115
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>>106114164
>You have to like her to get annoyed by the same arguments over and over again
Are you stupid
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That's alot of brats
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>>106114164
How new are you? This thread became fans of Fauna not the other way around.
No one will leave
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>>106114209
>This thread became fans of Fauna
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH keep spamming cuckling
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Imagine those fingers deep inside a little japanese woman
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WAH
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>>106114252
That doesn't look like the getting over it stream from years ago
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>>106114252
Just because you come here to take a shit publicly every day, doesn't mean this place has become a public toilet. It just means you're a jeet.
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>The only song on Mikochi's playlist "Treasures" is one that Haachama made for her. I don't think the two of them had a bad relationship.
This why she cried
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>>106114302
Napcuck….
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>>106114312
It’s not easy to see a good mate to go through a rough patch.
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https://x.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1983931646262047223
Why is Fubuki so reactionary?
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>>106113912
They ran out in the first 30 minutes. The strat was to fill out the card on the previous days and line up outside the convention before the doors open and rush to the booth to get shit.
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>>106114209
that was before she betrayed us all tho
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>>106114302
Sorry cuckling but all the Nimi liveposting is done by one guy (probably you) spamming on cooldown on his PC and phone, most /#/fags are not cucks
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>>106114189
Well its gonna stay like this because she has a good amount of people who dont like her now, for one reason or another. To keep coming back expecting something different is strange.
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*OCTOBER 30TH FINAL EN TALLY*
>16,881: Calliope (Hololive English)
>14,150: Saba (Indie)
>9,825: Nerissa (Hololive English)
>7,785: Meloco (Nijisanji "English")
>7,457: Raora (Hololive English)
>6,839: Nimi (Indie)
>6,178: Mint (Indie)
>5,950: Calliope (Hololive English)
>5,111: Gigi (Hololive English)

Ending the month on a high note. Gold for Mori Calliope's Hololive English Family Feud, Silver for Sameko Saba's playthrough of The Mortuary Assistant, and Bronze for Nerissa Ravencroft's first playthrough of Silent Hill F.

>RANKING PER POINTS (Gold = 3, Silver = 2, Bronze = 1)
Calliope = 26p
Bijou = 25p
Gigi = 23p
Raora = 14p
Saba = 11p
FUWAMOCO, Cecilia, Nimi = 10p
Baelz, Luca = 8p
IRyS = 7p
Meloco = 5p
Mint = 4p
Ina'nis = 3p
Kiara, Nerissa = 2p
Elizabeth, Biscuit = 1p
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>>106112947
>Luckily the 'engine' has little effect on the VOD views so we can ignore the botter.
Hasn't it been pretty clear that the engine does add VOD views, like flat vod views, but doesn't really help growth.
Probably get filtered out of monetization, but it does inflate stats
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>>106114350
>us
You mean the thread that was pro-marriage from the beginning?
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>>106114363
OCT 2025 EN GOLD
10/1 - Saba - No, I'm not human: 15,703
10/2 - Mint - 3D Debut: 22,727
10/3 - Calliope - Metal Gear Solid A: 20,622
10/4 - Raora - Pokemon Emerald: 15,437
10/5 - Saba - Alien Isolation: 17,736
10/6 - Baelz - Stellar Blade: 11,019
10/7 - Raora - Powerwash Simulator: 12,609
10/8 - Bijou - Pokemon TCG Box Opening: 15,673
10/9 - Hololive English - Promise 2nd Anniversary 3D Live: 31,046
10/10 - Bijou - Monster Hunter Wilds: 11,633
10/11 - Nimi - Birthday Stream: 13,077
10/12 - Bijou - No, I'm not Human: 14,357
10/13 - Saba - Minecraft: 15,989
10/14 - Bijou - MEGABONK: 11,946
10/15 - Calliope - HoloTCG Box Opening: 17,390
10/16 - IRyS - 3D Karaoke: 9,426
10/17 - Dooby - 2D Debut: 11,893
10/18 - Bijou - Outfit Reveal: 14,493
10/19 - Calliope - Devil May Cry 3: 31,946
10/20 - Raora - Chattini Day: 13,534
10/21 - Calliope - Devil May Cry 3: 35,615
10/22 - Luca - Minecraft: 18,587
10/23 - Calliope - Devil May Cry 3: 32,188
10/24 - Calliope - Devil May Cry 3: 61,029
10/25 - Bijou - Visage: 13,496
10/26 - Baelz - Unarchived Karaoke: 17,537
10/27 - Gigi - Escape from Duckov: 15,133
10/28 - Calliope - Devil May Cry: 36,768
10/29 - Luca - Minecraft: 35,548
10/30 - Calliope - Holoween Feud: 16,468

PER COMPANY
22x: Hololive English
6x: Indie
2x: Nijisanji English

PER STREAMER
8x: Calliope
6x: Bijou
3x: Raora, Saba
2x: Baelz, Luca
1x: Gigi, Hololive English, IRyS, Dooby, Nimi, Mint

MORI CALLIOPE WINS THE MONTH OF OCTOBER.
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>>106114385
>pro-marriage
lol
lmao
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>>106114385
Most bizarre schizo yet
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>>106114361
>Don't like her
>Continue to bring her up and get into the EXAXT SAME ARGUMENTS with the dame back and forth you KNOW people will defend, just it be adversarial, instead of just not bringing her up
>I'm the fucking insane one
Yeah ok.
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>indo-canadian
>poor
>micro penis
>likely schizophrenic
>obsessed with a married woman
If brownfeet wasn't such a unhinged fuck i would feel kinda bad about him
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>>106114410
napniggers are like that
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>>106114395
OCT 2025 EN SILVER
10/1 - Calliope - CloverPit: 13,546
10/2 - Raora - Minecraft: 15,837
10/3 - IRyS - Sekiro Shadows Die Twice: 19,660
10/4 - IRyS - Promise Anniversary: 14,056
10/5 - FUWAMOCO - Super Mario Galaxy: 13,648
10/6 - Cecilia - Elden Ring: 9,674
10/7 - Gigi - Baby Steps: 9,312
10/8 - Saba - At Dead of Night: 14,893
10/9 - Gigi - Goblin Cleanup: 12,257
10/10 - Ina'nis - Monster Hunter Wilds: 10,129
10/11 - Cecilia - Backseat Drivers: 10,427
10/12 - Raora - Little Nightmares: 8,364
10/13 - FUWAMOCO - TCG Card Shop Simulator: 8,432
10/14 - Gigi - MEGABONK: 9,017
10/15 - Cecilia - Learning Japanese: 7,096
10/16 - Nimi - Drawing Pokemon: 8,620
10/17 - Gigi - Pokemon Legends Z-A: 8,885
10/18 - Bijou - Unarchived Karaoke: 12,026
10/19 - Gigi - Birthday Stream: 22,613
10/20 - Nimi - Alien Isolation: 11,387
10/21 - Gigi - Escape the Backrooms: 13,393
10/22 - Bijou - Pokemon Legends Z-A: 13,367
10/23 - Gigi - I Scream Ice Cream: 7,820
10/24 - Luca - Minecraft: 29,350
10/25 - FUWAMOCO - Fatal Frame 2: 12,777
10/26 - Cecilia - Oktoberfest Celebrations: 11,365
10/27 - Kiara - The Witcher 3: 8,874
10/28 - Luca - Zatsu: 33,842
10/29 - Meloco - Outfit Reveal: 24,783
10/30 - Saba - The Mortuary Assistant: 14,150

PER COMPANY
23x: Hololive English
4x: Indie
3x: Nijisanji English

PER STREAMER
7x: Gigi
4x: Cecilia
3x: FUWAMOCO
2x: Saba, Bijou, IRyS, Raora, Nimi
1x: Ina'nis,[Kiara, Calliope], Luca, Meloco

GIGI MURIN BREAKS THE RECORD FOR MOST SILVER MEDALS WON IN A SINGLE MONTH (IN 2025)
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>>106114409
>>106114410
1 min until the next shitty post
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>>106114419
*Exact
*Same
*Just to be
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>>106114312
If haachama doesn't take her meds and stop the brainworms, she's unironically going to lose the people that considered her a friend because of her outbursts
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>betrayed
>traitor
>pro-marriage
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>>106114437
OCT 2025 EN BRONZE
10/1 - Gigi - The Elder Scrolls 4 Oblivion Remastered: 9,931
10/2 - Elizabeth - Unarchived Karaoke: 12,245
10/3 - Gigi - No, I'm not Human: 14,161
10/4 - Nimi - BONK: 9,879
10/5 - Nerissa - Unarchived Karaoke: 13,637
10/6 - Gigi - Unarchived Karaoke: 9,635
10/7 - Bijou - Clover Pit: 9,074
10/8 - FUWAMOCO - Super Mario Galaxy: 5,692
10/9 - Bijou - 3D VR Chat: 9,384
10/10 - Nimi - Eclipsium: 7,959
10/11 - FUWAMOCO - Silent Hill F: 9,976
10/12 - Baelz - Clubhouse Games: 7,962
10/13 - Cecilia - Indiana Jones and the Great Circle: 8,354
10/14 - Baelz - Midnight Monday Radio: 9,017
10/15 - Meloco - GTA V: 7,893
10/16 - Bijou - Pokemon Legends Z-A: 8,054
10/17 - Ina'nis - Pokemon Legends Z-A: 7,823
10/18 - Gigi - Unarchived Karaoke: 11,131
10/19 - Cecilia - The Evil Within: 10,761
10/20 - Ina'nis - Pokemon Legends Z-A: 10,628
10/21 - Raora - The Bathhouse Restored Edition: 10,467
10/22 - FUWAMOCO - Snack Taste Offcollab: 11,130
10/23 - Nimi - Little Nightmares 3: 7,765
10/24 - FUWAMOCO - The Visage: 15,294
10/25 - Mint - Silent Hill F: 8,196
10/26 - Bibi Biscuit - Debut: 10,487
10/27 - Meloco - GTA V: 8,516
10/28 - Gigi - Five Nights at Freddy: 19,119
10/29 - Meloco - GTA V: 18,791
10/30 - Nerissa - Silent Hill F: 9,825

PER COMPANY
22x: Hololive English
4x: Indie
3x: Nijisanji English
1x: Phase Connect

PER STREAMER
5x: Gigi
4x: FUWAMOCO
3x: Nimi, Meloco
2x: Nerissa, Cecilia, Bijou, Baelz, Ina'nis
1x: Raora, Elizabeth, Mint, Biscuit
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Whoever suggested that "auto dubbed" feature should be executed.
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>>106114419
To keep coming back here and not expecting that is insane yeah, especially when you can just go to tower.
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>>106114485
Unicorn thread sister
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>>106114419
Did I ever tell you about the definition of insanity?
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>>106114419
>nooooo you can't keep laughing at niji failures you are le obsessed
Has this cope ever worked?
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>>106114535
>implying there won't be brand new drama the very next day from niji
Sister..This thread always stayed current
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Kiara is collabing with Extra Emily and english dub va enjoy holobros haha
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>>106114535
it's frightening just how quickly naplings became nijiniggers the moment they left the holo shelter
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lots of new threads in the catalog today qrd?
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>>106114535
Nijis, for over a fucking year, deliberately did retarded shit so there was always something new to talk about. Notice how discussion about them slowed down until the engine started, because outside of graduations (that this thread barely commented on) nothing happened. Meanwhile with Nimi you faggots being up the same shit you've been saying for months because she actually hasn't done anything else so abysmally stupid. It's not even remotely the same.
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>>106112235
>copypasting vstats pages
How are you doing VOD views, are just comparing vods wit months/years of growth to vods with weeks worth of growth?
I'm guessing the ASMR vods on Fauna's channel inflate the avg compared just stream vods quite a bit. Still that's a content choice.
I don't think it will change the overal trend though, to be clear
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>>106114581
In English?
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>>106114581
I don't watch Kiara
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>>106114591
Didn't they spearhead the whole exclusionary shit over homocollabers in the first place
I wouldn't say anything about "after"
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>>106114634
Yeah their collab is probably in English
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>>106114611
>qrd
Suck my cock
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>>106114626
Nimi keeps getting more embarrassing numbers every time she streams so there is always something new to laugh at
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>>106114642
>Blaming that on saplings
Did you forget "the Trinity" and how they excluded Kiara and Mori, the former just because she was annoying and the latter because of the trash taste shit. Are you gonna pretend shitposters doing that is new?
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>>106114651
Whose collab? I literally do notnunderstand who you are talking about besides Kiara
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>>106114672
qrd on your cock?
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>>106114581
proof ?
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Reminder the ones seething are the ones who hated the thread and can't hide it
Random example: >>106114642
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>>106114714
Cock my sock
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>>106114363
Saba completely fucking mores by money Mori lmao
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>>106114611
Nerissa got exposed for having a brazilian boyfriend (me)
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>>106114478
It really is one of the worst fucking features on youtube and likes to turn itself on repeatedly
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>>106114642
>Nimi-antis are homobeggars
Who could have seen it?
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>>106114763
>Nimi is a Nimi anti
Does this make sense to you cuckling?
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>>106114729
It was announced a few days ago, not sure why he's bringing it up now
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>>106114581
DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>106111814
holofans do but she will get drama tourist liggers for a while if she gets terminated and goes indie
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>suddenly everyone cares about haachama now
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>>106114611
>Act 1
Random Nijinigger/Phasefag makes a bait thread with as little context as possible, adds some context of his own (a lie)
>Act 2
He gets told to fuck off by others who give proper context
>Act 3
Random Nijinigger/Phasefag throws a fit and just starts calling people names, necrobumping the thread because there is no one to ban him.
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>>106114818
he thinks that we hate Emily... because reasons
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>>106114409
Remember when Kobo debuted and all the indog schizos started spamming Moona doxx to try and assure that Kobo became the face of ID?
I remember.
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Who the fuck is "Extra Emily and english dub va" and why won't anyone explain what the fuck they're talking about
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>>106114763
>>106114738
>shitpost over homocollabs
>oshi turns around and announces publicly she's getting creampied
It's just ironic
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>>106114880
I can't remember something that didn't happen so yeah
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>>106114626
The difference between Niji and Nimi is that a good amount of folks here did actually like Fauna at one point.
"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, nor Hell a fury like a woman scorned"
I think both parts of this are equally applicable to this thread lol
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>>106114907
>exposing yourself
>>106114912
>exposing yourself
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>>106114729
She’s a judge at some cosplay thing at a convention. I don’t know why that retard is sperging out.
https://x.com/DreamHackNA/status/1982134259537047986
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>>106114883
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>a bunch of indies and small corpos decide to throw a party in japan
>one of them, swirldrop gets blocked by almost every single one of them on bluesky the day after
lmao someone got fingered against their will
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>>106114929
>>exposing yourself
Here, it's VERY simple
Snaplings shitpost about homos saying they plap holos
Snaplings now complain people shitpost about their oshi being plapped daily (her own confirmation)
It's an ironing board, like Suisei's chest
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>>106114973
Didn't read
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>>106114960(me)
He's actually a dude and a schizophrenic one at that btw
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>>106114941
How in the everloving fuck would "and english dub va" lead me to understand that this is what they're talking about?
Nothing screams "discord raid" more than bait being posted by tards assuming everyone knows whay they're talking about.
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>>106114581
this is why we hate kiara
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>>106114941
https://x.com/DreamHackNA/status/1982134259537047986
oh hey it's part of the dreamhack thing
neat
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>>106114941
Jesus fucking Christ Kiara
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With how whorish I've seen so many madtown vtubers being (including several VSPOs) really drives home why it's good for holos to avoid males. It's like a total genre shift to watching a girl hit on ecelebs all day.
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>>106115070
no we don't
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>>106115078
>>106114941
>male
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>>106114941
ExtraEmily is fucking disgusting
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>>106115070
>>106115085
>>106115108
here comes the discord raid
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Go suck my cock discord raiders
You're close to leaking your pedo discord servers again
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>>106114973
>Snaplings shitpost about homos
True, I'm guessing that's why you hate her so much
>saying they plap holos
False. I'm also guessing that was you posting that shit
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If there's no news/announcement of haachama tomorrow, I'm just going to assume she killed herself in a cabin somewhere and Cover can't even contact her to finalize her termination
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>>106114941
Fuck I want to rank shit with Ichiban...
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>>106114941
More twitch and more male collabs pls Cover, thank you :)
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>>106115121
I’m a KFP though
>>106115189
Very reasonable guesses
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>>106115268
Fuck off to your containment thread, phaseturd
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>>106115090
Even excluding anything like that it's still retarded.
Where was Aki during HoloGTA? Why is she in MADTOWN then?
It's not like >we can't literally see the standard of people she is choosing to associate with and without bias compare them to holos.
They're losers. The only logical reason is that she wants to feel bigger than she is.
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>>106115189
>implying they don’t plap Erb, Shiori and HoloIDs after all those niji leaks
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>>106115304
akizchizo...
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>>106115319
Immediate mask off good going bud
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>>106115319
what's the difference between a niminigger and a nijinigger
trick question there isn't one
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Damn they are cooking shondo out there
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>>106115345
Stop samefagging. It's unsightly.
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>>106115293
>batting for cover when they don’t want you and show you it over and over again
Unicornsama pls understand you arent wanted
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>>106115368
nimiseethe
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TLDR: Haachama's mentality(thanks to her family and her school) thinks she has no friends in holo (coco is not anymore and now rarely hangs out with her or not to not cause her problems, miko hanging out more with the others than with her), am i correct?
>>106115304
Aki was sucking Towa's cock in holoGTA
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>>106115304
>she wants to feel bigger than she is
She should just get breast enlargement surgery like Rushia and Matsuri if the wants to be bigger.
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>>106114941
thats not a collab you stupid fucking mongoloid
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>>106115364
What retarded shit did she say this time
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>>106115368
Uh oh Napcuck melty
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>>106115304
aki had a lot of fun in MADTOWN what are you on about lol
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>>106115380
I don't give a rats ass about who you pretend to be, I just want you to realize what a nuisance you are, and then to fuck off
Talk about your oshis or something id you want a reply relevant to the lightning in your nogging
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>>106115417
She joined the Bao vs Male V-Tubers argument in Bao's side

Which didn't sit right with her pseudo-Phasefag audience
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>>106115417
told a groomer that he's a groomer, now everyone is shitting on her
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>>106115414
Based, then if not collab I want Biboo to do one of these too
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>>106115436
>she had fun playing a video game
What's that got to do with anything
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>>106115469
ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT
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>>106115456
It's incredible that something as generic as the twitch equivalent of "if harvey weinstein asks you out for dinner, don't go" had phasetranny chincels crying and coping over misogyny. Then again I shouldn't be surprised considering how much they LOOOVE getting cucked by sex pests.
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>>106115537
weren't most of them 2view male vtubers tho?
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>>106115585
Yeah the 2view sex pests did their angry tweets but the cuck fetish incels all singalboosted it
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>>106115537
phasefags literally need anything now to deflect from their own drama
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>>106115456
From what I'm seeing it's less that she sat on the same side as Bao, and more that she directly accused someone only to walk it back and do a non-apology that set people off.
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>>106115134
If you're streaming on Twitch and you're not cheating, you're not trying and you're unironically NGMI
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Did I tell the thread that I lost my phone two days ago? No insurance. $700 down.
I was going to get myself a Switch 2 as a Christmas treat...
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>>106115687
I want Mummy Creek already...
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>>106110847
Ollie is besties with hassan's gf
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>>106115687
what, this?
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>>106115806
>Said the quiet part out loud
lmao
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>>106115806
Oh god that's retarded
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>>106115806
Like she's actually a genuine fucking retard and I would say she should just get off the internet and get a real job but she'd be incapable
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>>106115217
They're not gonna announce it tomorrow and ruin the mood of the holowitch event. I'd have made sense otherwise, though. They might just drop it on Saturday or Sunday,.
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>>106115903
why is she pingponging between dramafagging and victimblaming
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Not that I care but calling people a groomer/pedo isnt British humour.
Generally when people use such insults to non offenders it's considered projection
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>>106115903
How can someone so downright treacherous at times can also be so fucking stupid
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>>106110813
Jesus fucking Christ these women are self-destructive, vtubers have no business coming /here/
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>>106115765
I don't get it, there's nothing wrong with either Bao or Shondo's statements. Is the drama about who they're being directed at or does liggersville literally worship groomers now?
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>>106115903
CC, I get it
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>>106115765
that's based and funny
>>106115806
she shouldn't have apologized. Never apologize, it's a sign of weakness
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>>106115971
it's literally male sexpests upset tha they are being called out
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>>106115806
>>106115903
I mean... she's right
Don't get all defensive about some external drama about creeps on the internet or you'll look like a creep on the internet
That guy getting triggered about an egirl online talking about sexpests just looks bad
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>>106115765
She’s right and he’s a creep
>>106115806
never apologize to the mob
Fucking had it up to here with incel male vtubers and their incel fans whining about misandry when their own shitty behavior gets called out
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>>106110954
>Phase so low they got mixed into others
Kek
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>>106115971
of course they worship groomers, that's the whole draw of the lesser indie sphere
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>>106115997
>>106116003
It doesn't matter if she's right, you don't directly call someone a groomer (with no proof) then walk back and go "haha it was a joke because I'm british btw I'm still right, but I apologize, but I actually apologize". It makes you look even worse.
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>>106116032
I meant "but I actually don't apologize"
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>>106115806
>>106115903
She's right though
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>>106115993
bao is literally just mad one male vtuber didn't give her attention and is lashing out lol
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>>106116084
jesus christ how horrifying
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>>106116032
It's like people here blaming phasefags for shit stirring, most of the time it's not actually a serious accusation.
That's the intent I got from her tweet

But yeah the apology is retarded
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>>106115993
kek
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>>106116084
Beautiful...
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What was meant by groomer anyway. The viewer version or the real life version?
Most of the time it's used in the community to refer to people who watch indies...
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>>106115687
It's people once again feeling the need to baby male vtubers



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