Why is Vtubing so soulless and empty nowadays?
>>106113954Market saturation
>>106113954nope, it's better than ever.
>>106113954>seething 2view
>>106114021said the soulless bugman
>>106113954It's overdone. We need to move on.
>>106113954tranny in the middle
>>106114077>They/she pronouns>as female presenting as conceivable Why are there so many of these?
>>106113954Creators got so scared of being parasocial that they stopped making things somebody would want to watch
>>106113954is that one a good video essay? been aching to watch a documentary thing lately
>>106113954You're watching the wrong vtubers
I think I can summarize the problem >VtubersSeen as one mass. As if they're one set team>StreamersSeen as individuals all competing with each other. Collabs aren't common unless it's something like Yogscast.
>>106114147If I'm they/them I can go for straight girls too
>>106114377You're saying we need the yogscast to get into vtubing?
No new talent comes in. No no energy.Look at HololiveEN and Phase Connect's last 2 new gens.It is all people who were vtubers/streamers in 2021.
>>106114046if you watch the video, she isn't seething. She's actually responding to a real seether, Nemo and offering white pills.
>>106114501True, corpos are cowards.
>>106114551Obviously I'm not gonna watch the video in a random catalog bait thread.
>>106113954EN Vtuber fans killed it. Early 2024 was the death knell and the whole EN industry has been bleeding out since.
>>106114010This, vtubers never truly die, they just reincarnate after graduation.
>>106114638This. New Phase gen was another recycle job. No one new ever makes it.
>>106114500Perhaps....perhaps.
Less people have the opportunity or will to go full-time and corpos aren't willing to raise new talent.
I'm not gonna watch any of that, but I am curious just how an endless slew of copy paste whores on Twitch are still 2k-5k viewers after years of streaming the same shit. Like who goes, hell yeah, another shylily stream, can't wait to hear her make sexual innuendos!!!
>>106114803>>106114010>>106114669MARGETSADURATIONAll the "25 and what is this" early vtubers in the 2010s are now hags in their 30s, it's not a new industry where you're breaking into it anymore. The funny thing is I've seen vtubers with hundreds of people watching them, who started out as literal 1 views with just their friend and some casual people raided in watching them, complain they'll 'never be hugely popular' when their stream times randomly jump from 12 noon to 2 AM depending on their own whimsy. And this is, of course, one of the hagtubers I'm talking about.A lot othese chicks like minot got into vtubing also because they wanted to 'be like hololive' and that was 5+ years ago.
Women are drama queens. Without someone holding them down, every industry focused on them implode
>>106114933Lisa has had more chances than most ever get in vtubing. If you have been in 2 corpos and 4 years later you are still the "what if" chuuba haunted by your potential, then it's a you problem.
instead of trying to create something they just try the easy way and grift with either GFE or dramaindie vtubing should be artists only, if you're not an artist go to corpos where they'll put some reigns on you and stop you from grifting
>>106115334She had to take a break, all those 50 different times, it was like stressful man she gotta smoke all that weed.
does this person even know what the "retro" in retrospective means or did they just stick that word in there since that's what all cool youtube essayists do?
>>106114147"Not like other girls"
>>106115334Lisa still did well for herself I'd say. If she left the industry tomorrow, her overall career is at good ending.
>>106114500Simon was a pngtuber for a while
>>106113954Women are soulless and empty
>>106113954What makes you feel that way OP, could you give an example or two where you feel that current vtubing is like that? Be specific, don't just throw 1 word buzzes
must be all the vtubers this no name loser struck out with :D
>>106113954
>>106113954It died when being an actual whore became the meta
>bubble exploded>market saturation>no innovation content wise that doesn't push them into just doing without non-vtuber content see for example Giri giving up doing cooking streams with the model>constant corpo failures and disappointments >newer waves of vtubers aren't really that impressive>people already confortable with some vtubers to explore the market
>>106114010fpbp
The heart and soul of vtubing is creating a parasocial relationship between women streamers and lonely men. As long as something better doesn’t come along to appeal to those lonely men, the market will keep growing.
>>106113954>nowadaysVtubing died in 2018
>>106114561Vtuber got so mainstream that hiring random nobodies is very very risky now, too many schizos around. So it's better to hire people with some experience and proven to not be very schizo.
I'm not clicking that shit. What does the video say, did she say something about Minto? She's in the thumbail
>>106114021>hololive talents are suicidal and losing their minds>nijisanji is a rotted husk>indies are either LLD cucking, destroying each others careers over petty woman bullshit, or being lazy sacks of shitIn what way anon
>>106114598>catalog bait threadGo back
>>106130015arigato Grok-san
>>106113954Normie whores getting involved purely to chase that bag
>>106113954>westerners make something jp mainstream>90% of it instantly becomes slop
>>106130626This.Make the big bucks disappear from the hobby somehow and the number of chuubas would be reduced to double digits.
>>106113954nisanji ruined vtubing by making 2dtubers acceptable.
>>106114500>>106114377diggy diggy hole i am a dwarf and im a digging a hole~
>>106113954out of the chuubas shown in the thumbnail, only top left and bottom right matteredbuy an ad next time you want to shill your video bitch
rather than stream as a hobby, they all treat it like a career, and as a result they attempt to imitate the largest names they are personally comfortable doing so with, and when that doesnt get results, they either quit, flesh stream or whore themselves out on fansly, becasue god forbid you do something for fun rather than profit
>>106134674I on the other hand hate the unserious streaming as a hobby crowd. I want some goddamn motivated serious professional lifers.
>>106134674this has happened to all sorts of things nowthere's pressure to turn any hobby you have into a second or third stream of income, a side hustle
>>106113954Buy and ad
>>106113954>nowadays
>>106136105yeah I don't want money yeah I wanna work my shitty job
>>106114010plus investor greed turns everything into shit
>>106113954I clicked "don't recommend channel" when I was recommended this while I was watching a cute 2viewthe big leagues of an industry are always soulless sellouts
>>106130015>nemoEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>>106113954because /pol/ won and shat it up
>nemo
>>106130015Oh It's just another /lig/ger melty
>>106113954Because everyone copied hololive.
>>106119614>>people already confortable with some vtubers to explore the marketI feel like this is the main reason. Whoever was into Vtubers already found one or few that they like and no need or even enought time to look at others. And there are not that many new viewers since the novelty of vtubing has long sailed.
not my problem
>>106139543You could also get another income stream by whoring yourself out to old gay men, but you're not gonna do that, are you?
>>106129124Say something about Phase, coward
>>106135997I think there are too many chuubas who live in this retarded inbetween land of being NEETs and having streaming and their main occupation, yet still insisting on being unserious and amateurish slobs.
>>106149000I don't need to, most small corpos are covered by what was said under "indies".
>>106152126Yes, you do.>most small corposI wasn't talking about "most small corpos", I was talking about Phase. And you dodged what i said. You're a fucking phaseshill. Neck yourself immediately.
>>106152126>>106153223>most small corpos>2025
>>106114046this
>>106153223Phase is one of those small corpos, obsessed retard.
>>106113954>look at me im torally not like them
