nade nade nadeee~>who?If you aren't aware, Fallenshadow is the most hard-working schizo loli on the internet and enjoys the company of her husbands very much! Please treat her well.>linksTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/fallenshadowASMR Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@fallenshadowVOD Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@fallenshadowtwitchClips Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@fallenshadowclipsRibbon Cage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWMyb4vKRU0 You Are My Sunshine (Cover): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX_vx_p_Yfc Twitter: https://twitter.com/fallenshadow_YTAlt Twitter: https://twitter.com/goodgirlshadowOtis Twitter: https://twitter.com/managerotisShondo Store: https://shondo.store/Schedule: breakPlease refresh yourselves on global and board rules before posting, you might be surprised!Remember to ignore, report and hide shitposters. It's easier than you think!!Previous thread: >>106152618
she's my fute bagel
I'm a male does this mean she hates me?I though she was MY imouto wife...
>>106169108If you have swc
>>106169174...sweet wine collar? what the fuck are these abbreviations anymore
i am ready for shondothon day 20!!!
elfin is live with her horrorthon btw and unlike shon she loves her male fans
>>106168932Deserved banDeserved mother's deathDeserved schizo ward visitNone of this would have happened if she didn't ban me for no reason. Cope.
>>106169746yeah but she is also sexually desirable has an adult voice and an IQ above 85 which is a major minus
>>106169746yeah shondo's a stupid fucking menhera WHORE*falls for it again*
>>106169746buy an ad
Her episode happened because she ought to suffer the punishment for her misandry and whoredom. After correction, she will return.
>>106169746>literally has scrolling text saying she likes big black ballsyeah no i'm good
do any of you actually think you've experienced as much suffering as she has?
Damn, the stream was really rough. From listening closely it sounds like she unknowingly went live or forgot.She gets in a phonecall(at a few points you can vaguely here what sounds like a voice, but it's damn hard to hear)with some of her family and discloses a few details about her living arrangements while wailing. It's hard to make out half of what's said, but it's damn heartbreaking if you do, she misses her mother and hates herself among other things.It sounds like the recent tweets triggered her meltdown, but it's mostly underlying issues.If this didn't happen now, it probably would have happened later. I really hope she gets better and finds something.
>>106170188yes but i'm also much older than her so it's an unfair comparison
>>106170190>She gets in a phonecallshogga she was just saying "scratchy scratchy scratchy 25 25 25" over and over while hitting herself and stuff in her room until like 53 minutes in
>>106170190>She gets in a phonecall(at a few points you can vaguely here what sounds like a voice, but it's damn hard to hear)with some of her family and discloses a few details about her living arrangements while wailing.Post it pls oh god I can only cum so many times in a day but I'll try once more.
>>106170307Your pp will get frictionburns pls chill
>>106170210so sorry to hear that, how many episodes of psychosis and derealization have you had while crying about your dead mother killing herself?
https://files.catbox.moe/52ex0l.mp4reminder that you're all posting in MY thread and that this whore is suffering because YOU invaded my home plane
>>106170381I FUCKING LOVE YOU DUDE I LOVE YOU YOU ARE THE REAL HERO OH FUUUUUCCKKKKK IT'S SO GOOOD WHEN THOSE WHO WRONGED YOU SUFFER.
>>106170381ZASED I FUCKIN KNEEL
uh oh melty
>>106170653tubby hasn't been taking it well, he's gone full mask off antiremember this thread reading shondo
i remember when shondo loved her fansi miss those days
>i wanna go backBack to before you let your groomers ban me for no reason you stupid bitch? Oh how hilarious it is that I can go back to your chat and your Discord with an alt but your mom will NEVER be here again.
i missed the stream...damn
Ignoring her recent episode, I don't understand what the current twitter controversy here is? This is my understanding of the events>Bao tweets that if you're a female 2 view and a large male streamer suddenly starts paying a crazy amount of attention to you and dm'ing you be careful because he probably has an alternative motive.This seems like an obvious statement>Nobody male streamer says "not all men" in a lot more wordsSeems to purposely misunderstand above statement>Shondo jokes that he's probably a groomerHe's probably not, but he is probably an idiot for misunderstanding a very obvious statement about internet safety as a personal attack against him Why does this matter? Did I miss something in the chain of events or am I just too over 30 and employed to think this a big deal
I actually like her even if i dongrang post on anti threads
>>106171329>alternative motivefuck off esl scum
You’re full of tricks, Shondo. Yet you never once used your greatest weapon!
>>106171329>This seems like an obvious statementit's been a slow week so dramafags chose this to latch onto for the time beingit'll be forgotten when the next drama drops in the vtubersphere
>>106170736my only wish is for retarded faggots like you who are completely incapable of empathy somehow someday attain self-awareness and kill yourselves but it'll probably never happen
>>106171422I liked her until faggots like Somnium ruined her for me.
>>106171669Funny thing is your wish has already come true. That's why her mom is dead.
What if I told you she was poisoned by sakana
>>106171660the dramafags yearn for the google dockies
>>106170381DAT QUALITY DOE
>>106170381this is how i always imagined her schizo episodes looking
>All this dramafagging over a vtweeter male getting dunked on after he had a meltdown over Bao putting out the most basic take everWild.
>>106170381kill yourself
man, i hate thison one side you have people maliciously attacking Shondo and on the other you have blind 'she can do no wrong' cult followers.It's suck being on the middle...but i will say this, you can at least debate with the cultist, blind haters deserve to die
>>106172147Shondo deserves it though.
>>106170736>Gets banned by a vtuber>Turns into obsessed antiMany such cases
>>106171669you're replying to a clipwatcher who got banned for being a weirdo and immediately had a meltdown over it
Guilty thoughts all day while at work, but imagining her already pale flesh made even paler with blood loss, seeing her dark veins stand out across her skin, and seeing the drops of blood running in rivulets down her thin and easily snappable arm activates my almonds. I want to greedily suck down the blood as it seeps from her wound with every frantic beat of her heart, and tear her wound wider until her blood is running down my chin, drinking deeply of her until her veins have nothing left to give and her heartbeat goes still.
>>106172216He's so devoted to his oshi that he's also having a schizo meltdown in hopes of being put in the hospital room next to her, we should all learn from his devotion
>>106172329the mindbroken rape victim has been at it for a year and a half btw lol irl
>>106172339you can drop the larp she can't threadread right now
>>106172198>blind 'she can do no wrong' cult followersmaking jokes at the expense of ngmi male vtubers whos response to a tweet saying 'if a rich guy showers you with money and affection you should be careful' is 'OMG THAT COULD BE REFERRING TO ME' is okay actually
>>106170374>only schizophrenic episodes constitute sufferingi miss when words had meaning
>>106172426it's not a larp, I genuinely enjoy this
Concernfags are always right
>>106172481>It's not a LARP!>Forgot to maintain his writing stylec:
>>106171669>somehow someday attain self-awareness and kill yourselvesdamn, mom took that advice to HEART
>>106172339don't feel guilty thatr's based and perfectly fine once she achieves full gurosona IRL
>Somnium pitybaiting like Chester despite his friend constantly bringing up Chester in the threads about itNoticing
>>106172216She didn't ban me, but she enables her groomers to much and they banned me for no reason. She unbanned me publicly but the damage is done and I will always rejoice over her misfortune.
https://files.catbox.moe/mg30rg.mp4 post cute shondo moments
>>106172654my favorite is when she said "i want to go home"
>>106172481You're not me, faggot.
>>106172654kill yourself
>>106172339https://files.catbox.moe/m5d5y0.mp4
bruh what the frick is wrong with Shondo?? i leave to watch Bugonia in 35mm a second time and come back and shes hospitalized cuz of a cat picnic???? \>_</ she needs to get her crap together. whoever called hiatus after the subathon was correct ^_^
does /shon/ actively make an effort to be even more mentally ill than her or is it just all natural?
>>106172654>and than I become so manhera that I HAD pity bait not only ONCE but TWICE in the same week!>to push the manhera away you gotta donate 50 subs, it will go to mic- I mean the anti-male cause!
>>106172836its just all antis and mentally ill regulars
>>106172836its all natural mister!!
>>106172848If you donate, some of the money will go to her cat, yes.
>>106172424Yeah idk how she keeps getting into shit so often. Never seen any Biboo drama in all my stay there. And she hasn't banned me over groomers like Shondo did.It was a blessing in disguise desu, Biboo actually willingly played Dead Space 2 while Shondo just quit at the beginning of 1 LOL.
unbecoming guppies
>tfw these fags are trying to copy my vrilthe difference being I always remain in the end
this drama is a nothingburger and will blow over and when it does I want you guys to remember all the whores who capitalized on it >>106169746
>meltdown after donothonmany such cases
how do i make everything ok?
imagine still caring about what cunts on twitter are doing (besides shondo)
>>106173701She couldn't even finish the Dewdathon.
>>106173520Based, shondo kinda deserves it after all the drama she's grited off of Karma is a bitch
>someone with severe mental illness has psychotic episode>antis with zero empathy flood the thread and say the cruelest shit possibleI don't get how people can be like this.
>>106174246I am not an anti, I am just sadistic.
>>106174246>if you kill your enemies, they win
>>106174246It's not cruel to want to drink her blood
Being refined in the Brazier of Eight Trigrams, become an immutable, invincible, immortal, impervious body. Nurtured by the energies of Heaven and Earth, as well as the Sun and Moon, become divinity. Cultivating conduct and vital essences, become immortal and astral travel, shapeshift, levitate, etc. This is why victory is always guaranteed.
>>106174419blood drinking is for larpers, true Immortals study the dao.
>>106174327if your "enemy" is a schzio anime girl from another continent on the internet then maybe you need to get your life and priorities together
in summary, people think she hates men cause she called a male vtuber a groomer as a joke?
>>106174502it's not about acquiring immortality, why would someone want to be immortal?
>Dewd lost his Kung Pow streak because the chat is in emote-only modeSo sad, he even managed to keep it going during the Shadowmama drama
>>106174327another strawman, just straight up fabricating quotes and attributing them to others
>>106174590she doesn't hate men, she fears themand what she said wasn't a joke
>>106174590its just an excuse to shit on her and get some twitter clicks, it isnt any deeper than that. reminder that some of the same accounts shitting on her now were praising her on many previous occasions. its like when inis got attacked over making a joke by putting herself on a crucifix, they will grasp at anything to get some ad revenue because they live in the third world
>>106174590It's too based a position to hold. She shortcircuited instead of properly understanding it and forming a coherent response. Shouldn't have tried to frame it as a joke
>>106174629because Immortality affords more options and experiences. If you don't want to be immortal, why not just od on fent and die right now? why do you want to live and then die? why don't you crave existence?
>>106174502>daoching chong ching chang ling ling flied lice eat cat mao
>>106174917I'm not even chinese lol, just well read.
I have a dick, am I welcome in here?
>>106171329you got it right yeah, people on edge about misandry quick to judge but maybe there's some history of bao being like that I don't know anything about her, shadow choosing the worst words and phrases she could have just solidified peoples assumptions
>>106174539The only reason she can be my enemy and still live is that a whole continent separates us.
>>106174816because life is ultimately suffering; the ultimate answer is suicide but our brains have evolved to make find ways to tether us to this world.
>>106175598Light work, no reaction
When will people learn to never apologize on the internet? They wont simple accept it and move on even if its best apology ever. Its simple they just want the power trip they want power over you. They are ghouls. You ignore them. Internet historian did it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhrlF6oq7Csshondo is cute
>>106175676Nooooo, that is called a cop out. Suicide is extremely easy, touch a tiny piece of fent on your finger tip and blissfully pass away, mister "life is bad". not that it will do anything because you can not experience death, but it may readjust your worldview. >life is sufferingaccording to... you? what measurement are you using? first you have to establish what suffering is, and then explain why it is bad. suffering has only ever birthed innovation.
>>106172339based and vampire pilled
>>106175598skill issue
>>106170381just give me the timestamps man... when does she start crying?
>>106170188anyone who can make nearly 100k just sitting in front of their computer having fun can never suffer
>>106176599objectively false
Guys I'm ll0oosIng my MiiiNd
>>106169746fuck no she doesntshe is just as bad as fallenshartow
>>106177123fallen shat ow. sharty nigger get the rope
Can dish out bants but can't take them huh
>>106176733proof?
shondo must be rolling in her gave as we speak
>>106177883nah
>>106177883my fat pig bitch loves rolling in shit (the shit is the drama farming she did) ;)
I love Shondo so much. I want to save her and take care of her and protect her. I don't think there's anything she could say that could make me stop loving her.
shondo gives me ick
>>106178742Cuckcel moment
tourist hereshe deserved it
>>106178889deserved what, childhood onset schizophrenia?
it's true, Shondo really cant do wrong in my heart
>>106176733concession accepted
I think she does lots of things wrong all the time but the difference is I get to criticize her for it because shes my wife. I will defend her against outside threats.
>>106179045I accept your concession via projection
>>106179170You won't do shit cuckcel
>>106179209>no proofconcession accepted
shondo is dying guys
>>106179274everyone is, foreverwe will be freeeeeeeee
>>106179217I've been involved in numerous Twitter and Discord posts and have over 300 confirmed arguments.
the best resolution to this latest episode would be that they get her on a real regimen of psych meds and a therapist
>>106179274we all are
i actually thought she was gonna harm herself live on stream, it was kinda freaky.
>>106179415> get her on a real regimen of psych medsShe was already on one, one that pushed the limits of what her body could handle at that.
>>106179441Well, she is BPD as hell. She instead chose to tweet about her self harm instead.
>>106179376>over 300 confirmed argumentsrookie numbers compared to S
>>106179268>avoiding my proofsconcession accepted
>>106173702Trust God and pray about the situation to Him
need more vampiric shondo art
>another day, another shondo meltdown Classic
AAIIIIIEEEEEEEE I POST SOMETHING ON TWITTER AND MADE BITCHES ANGRY WHY IS MY LIFE SO UNBEARABLE IM GOING SCHIZOOO MODEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHI SHOULD BE ABLE TO THROW BANTS AND CALL EVERYONE OUT WITHOUT ANY SORT OF CONSEQUENCE OR NEGATIVE RESPONSE!EVERYONE SHOULD LOVE ME BUT NOT TOO MUCH CUZ THATS WEIRD AND GROOMER BEHAVIOUR
SHAMONE
>>106168932groomer outed alert
Good morning, any updates beyond those two tweets?
>>106179441She did you just couldn't see it
>>106181329very sad stuff, i feel bad for the girl. i stopped watching her a while ago, but you'd have to be a complete psycho to not have sympathy for her.
I wonder if her episode is related to the recent Twitter drama, that i still dont know what it's even about.
Shondo died for our sinsI hate it
>>106181501>you'd have to be a complete psycho to not have sympathy for herShe literally caused all of this herself.
>>106181731the extra stress won't have helped her
>>106181902i dont know what her condition is, but im pretty sure she never wanted to be mentally i'll. no one wants to be.
>>106181902She gave herself schizophrenia?
>>106182012>>106182035I'm mentally ill too but you don't see me going online looking for pity and attention.If her condition is really that bad she should see a doctor and actually listen to what they have to say instead of getting smug and going "lol he told me to eat iron what a fag I do what I want bitch"
>>106182101don't compare yourself to other people. from what i've read, she lost both her parents and has to take care of her family by herself. there's also the recent twitter drama. im sure the stress is getting to her.
>>106182177The maybe she shouldn't post on the platform that's known for people starting shit if she didn't want this to happen in the first place.Like I said, she's literally causing this by herself.There's no one stopping her from just streaming and having fun with her community as usual.
>>106182101>but you don't see me going online looking for pity and attention.That's because you aren't a woman, anon.
You need to start blaming the devil more
>>106182210im sure the twitter drama is the least of her problems.
>>106182271
>>106182210sadly she can't help herself
>>106182349interacting with drama doesn't help
i'm so fucke dup ai can't tympe lole what happeeened i don't remember
>>106182271The Devil is just God's scapegoat. By necessity, all the fault falls on God.
>>106182488God is dgaf energy. He knows that it's ultimately good. You're just shortsighted because you have no way to know all that god knows which is everything.
>>106181902groomer outed alert
>>106179441There was a part of me that was genuinely scared she was roping.There was a big bang at one point. Sounded like a chair falling away.
>>106182012>i dont know what her condition isSchizoaffective disorder. It's basically schizophrenia plus bipolar.
>>106169746>5'1 loliGOD vs 5'7 loliHAGshondo bros... i don't feel so good
>>106182542"God acts in mysterious ways" is a self-defeating apologetic. If one claims that God’s goodness operates on a level so far beyond human comprehension that our moral intuitions and reasoning cannot grasp it, the word "good" no longer carries any meaning. If our best intuitions about justice, compassion, and harm cannot be applied to God’s actions, then we have no basis to say that God is good rather than evil, or that His actions are moral rather than immoral.In trying to defend God from criticism by appealing to mystery, you strip yourself of the ability to make any moral claim about Him at all, phrases like ‘God is good’ become meaningless strings of words. Even worse, if you claim that morals come from God himself (or that God's nature is morality itself), then you lose the ability to make any moral claim at all. If you can't rely on your fascistic intuitions about morality, you cannot assert with any degree of certainty that worshiping God (the self-imposed divine authority) is any better or worse than worshiping the Devil (who challenges that authority), or anything else.
>>106182918Only god is fit to make moral judgements.
>>106182488>God gives beings free will>it's God's fault how said beings use free will>but it's also God's fault if he took away free will and made us all automatonsWhat exactly do you want God to do?
>>106183006The existence of free will is incompatible with the existence of God, so that whole line of questioning is moot.>>106182994Then you cannot make any moral judgements. You can't claim that God is good.
>>106183046>The existence of free will is incompatible with the existence of GodWhy? Because you say so?And you didn't answer the question. What do you want God to do?
Who do I have to kill to ensure that shondo will be alright?
>>106183115No oneGet a holy icon of the Mother of God and pray to her asking for her intercession before God to help shondo
>>106183046God is good because he is all-knowing and all-powerful.
>>106183115Do you think she would want me to kill someone if she wouldn't get associated with the crime for sure?
>>106183095If God existed and was benevolent, then we would already be in heaven (or whatever is the highest concept of 'goodness' an omnipotent, omniscient being could conceive); this universe, as we know it, would not exist, nor would hell or evil in general.
religion is fucking cringe.
>>106183237so is watching vtubers.
>>106183191You're contradicting yourself.
>>106183209There must be certain people she wants dead.
>>106183298We just need to figure out who so she doesn't have to leave a trail by communicating with us directly.
>>106183236why would a God operate under your definitions of good or benevolence?
>>106183339I would say everyone following her as of this posts time
>>106183236You have no way of knowing the limits of what is possible and what isn't.
>>106172443if it's okay to be a cunt then she shouldn't be surprised when people do it to her
>>106183363In answered to the question 'what do you want God to do?', it is tautological that I would want God to act in accordance with what I think is good. If there were some sort of 'true goodness' beyond our ability to conceive, we would have no say in the matter, we wouldn't be able to rightfully claim things such as 'entity X is truly good'.>>106183434I was talking about a god that is defined as an omnipotent and omniscient being, implying that nothing is impossible for it. If you redefine the concept of the Christian God so that it is not omnipotent, this contradicts many key aspects of Christian doctrine, such as divine providence.
>>106183704>All confess that God is omnipotent; but it seems difficult to explain in what His omnipotence precisely consists: for there may be doubt as to the precise meaning of the word 'all' when we say that God can do all things. If, however, we consider the matter aright, since power is said in reference to possible things, this phrase, 'God can do all things,' is rightly understood to mean that God can do all things that are possible; and for this reason He is said to be omnipotent.
>>106183704yeah, wasn't following your little debate or whatever.
>>106183704Nta (as in not the one you were arguing with, but the one who said you should hate the devil more)Why should your subjective view of what is good be applicable to the cause of all? In what way do you see it making sense that you, an effect, is greater in any sense (including moral) to your cause, who is God? How do you expect to project a lowly one's perpective onto an ontological truth that emanates from the Cause that is common to your self? In no logical manner does it conclude that you are in any position to be a moral judge; that is, a judge who decides what is good or evil. You are, of course, a moral agent; in that you can judge between good and evil, but with this comes your ability to reason— which can be faulty and can end up making you believe that good is evil, and evil good.Thoughts?
>>106183191God is good because he put all those cute little girls on Epstein's Island for billionaire elites to enjoy and for everyone else to mald over the fact that they weren't invited to the party.
>>106184141No, that's not why he's good.
>>106183751You’re now placing your concept of God, about a being who is supposedly a supernatural being (beyond the laws of nature), below the laws of logic (which are mental constructs we came up with to attempt to describe how the universe seems to work; therefore, they are below the laws of nature). If God were truly a supernatural being, He would have authority both over the laws of nature and the laws of logic.By insisting that even God must conform to human logic, you’ve made Him subordinate to a human construct. The more you explain your concept of God, the more obvious it becomes that you’re not describing something that objectively exist, but a construct of your own mind.
>>106184121You are just repeating the "God works in mysterious ways" apologetic in other words, which I have already addressed.
>"I don't care, I said so"is how any God thinks. that's what morality is.
>>106184216using the "God is too smart for humans to understand" defense is crazy
>>106175598impotent retard, no blood flow, this is your new boyfriend >>106172339
>>106182891Elfin Hiba is a jeet from /soc/ who fucked her mods
>>106184320God doesn't care but wants to micromanage one species like a scorned girlfriend
>>106184216>below the laws of logic (which are mental constructs we came up with to attempt to describe how the universe seems to workNta, but this is your own presupposition.To say logic (and its laws) is made by the mind of humans is breaking the causal chain and also reducing God to an impersonal force (which is another pressuposition you brought in)If the causal chain is to be respected, logic, which we have access to, ought to have its own ontological source— this is in the mind of God the Father, and the Word that is begotten of His mind, His Son Jesus Christ.However, your conclusion is still correct, just that it doesn't follow from the premises. God is indeed above logic and natural law (which He put in place)>>106184296Wrong, i called into question your reasoning and made an attempt at showcasing your stupidity on this topic. You're deflecting and strawmanning
>>106184408fucked more than just her mods
>>106184418I meant morality. A God just does what he wills and that is called morality. there is no objective morality except for what you obey (like society n shiet), and the universe is just the warp from 40K with infinite fractals of bigger and bigger fish
>>106184498some vtuber fans have all the luck, they get a nice whore while husbands get schizo meltdowns
>>1061845090 days since warhammer has been mentioned
>>106184531that is part of what makes her so cute
>>106184531I definitely could have gotten sex out of all the time I put into vtubers if I was less sentimental about it.
>>106184548literal soft disclosure idk what you're on
>>106184553i think it's more wholesome to enjoy an emotionally unstable slut than to enjoy some girl's (maybe fake) psychosis
>>106184609she's not an emotionally unstable slut she's a whore for money
>>106184663both are true
>>106184455You are now claiming that there are supernatural laws of logic that come from God himself, that restrict what God can do, yet these laws are below God's authority. You are tying yourself in knots with your own contradictions.> Wrong, i called into question your reasoning and made an attempt at showcasing your stupidity on this topic. You're deflecting and strawmanningNot at all. You simply demonstrated a lack of understanding of the direction of this discussion. You responded to a post in which I explained what I would want God to do, rather than what the ultimate good would be if such a thing existed, and then you repeated an apologetic that I had already addressed. If you think there is something you have said that I haven't already addressed, please point it out.
>>106183397does Shon like girls built like that, or just the same as herself?
>>106184718She's not going to be your friend or fuck you.
>>106184732she prefers women who are thicker than she is, but she has invasive thoughts which tell her women are fatter than they really are which persist even as she is cognitively aware that is not true.
>>106184724>that restrict what God can doI never said that? I affirmed your conclusion... i think you are lost. >If you think there is something you have said that I haven't already addressed, please point it out.How can you as a mere effect presume authority to decide what is good and to view the cause of all in accordance with the self-made image of goodness and try to judge said cause by your own standards? Wouldn't it more logically conclude that the effect of morality is found, to a more objective level, within the first cause?Likewise, reply to what i answered with above in this post
Rate the melty
>>106184944Made me cry
>>106184987Was it your first one?
>>106185024holy edge
>>106184987same twin, imagining her dark red blood-soaked sheets while listening to sections of her sobbing made tears start running down my leg
>>106185024Yeah, first big episode induced by her illnessBut i more cried at her own crying and saying she wants to go home...
Not one person responded "even george floyd" im disappointed.
>>106184828> How can you as a mere effect presume authority to decide what is goodI am talking about what I subjectively define as 'good'.You seem to be thinking about an 'ultimate good' (also often called an 'objective good', even though apologists who use that concept define them in a way that make it inherently subjective). You would need to show how such a thing could exist in the first place. Christians associate God with the 'ultimate good', and the main topic of this discussion is the problems with this idea.> to view the cause of all in accordance with the self-made image of goodnessThat's what Christian apologists do. The problem arises when people point out that God's morality does not align with our own basic moral intuitions, at which point apologists resort to the 'God works in mysterious ways' argument, which, as I have already explained, is self-defeating.> Wouldn't it more logically conclude that the effect of morality is found, to a more objective level, within the first cause?No, that's just a non-sequitur. There is no valid reason to believe that objective morality or a first cause exist in the first place.
>>106185085Well just remember it's not your fault and there's nothing you can do to help.
>>106184944the twitter melty? 6/10
>>106185132>I am talking about what I subjectively define as 'good'.So you cannot cast judgements and claim that God is not good>No, that's just a non-sequitur.Incorrect>There is no valid reason to believe that objective morality or a first cause exist in the first place.What do you consider to be invalid reasons?
>>106183237religion isnt cringe!! ^_^>>106183260watching Shondo is cringe but watching normal vtubers is alright. sometimes, most of the time not
Do you think Shondo will have a magical recovery just before her trip to Japan?
>>106168932
>>106185371> So you cannot cast judgements and claim that God is not goodIf I exist and have subjective moral opinions, then I can indeed do so. Once again, you seem to think that the only valid moral opinions are ones that correspond to an objective morality,but you haven't even demonstrated how such a thing could exist in the first place (and the way Christians propose it could happen is self-contradictory, as they claim that objective morals come from a conscious being, making them subjective by definition).> IncorrectIf you think it is not a non-sequitur, fill-in the logic leaps in your arguments.> What do you consider to be invalid reasons?Those that do not logically follow from the premises. For example, all variations of the cosmological arguments for the existence of the Christian God (or for God's morals), among hundreds of others apologists like to use.
>>106183470fine but there are levels to things so for example in this case saying 'groomer outted alert' would be equivalent to 'pedo outted alert' being directed at her, they are literally just shitpost level jokes
Goodnight Shondopolis!! hope the cute trick or treaters girls put a smile on your face instead of that Shondo frown ^_^ happy Halloween!!
Holy fuck check twitter she's dead
>>106185504im not sure exactly when the trip was scheduled but if it was in the next 2 or 3 weeks then i doubt it. if it was about a month away then maybe
>>106185982I unironically had a notification active and got worried at this post
>>106185941it's not even that, "pedo outter alert" is understood to accuse someone of being a child molester; in the context of the tweets, "groomer" doesn't refer to a child molester, but to someone who uses their clout to exploit young women (which isn't as bad as molesting children).
>>106186021Groomers dont have to be pedos. Weinstein wasn't one.
>>106186083that's my point
if real, mental hospitals can be scary places.
>>106186318lmao this cuck got raped and his gf left him i cant imagine a worse situation to be in
>>106186318Meh. They're less exciting than you think. It's like 90 percent playing board games or cards with other patients and 10 percent watching people go in and out of having their brains scrambled. The occasional late night fight with orderlies. But for the most part, not too bad. You're not going to be housed with the criminally insane if you're just Joe Schmoe Depresso.
>>106186318You're a vtuber fan and your source for mental hospitals existing is internet celebrity Binging Babish?
>>106186398> You're not going to be housed with the criminally insane if you're just Joe Schmoe Depresso.shondo has a murder attempt in her medical record, she's probably having her guts rearranged by some chromie right now.
>>106186443>murder attempt in her medical recordwait what? qrd
>>106170188Have you ever thought maybe it's not that she's suffered so much but she's so fucking weak and unwilling to get stronger that any slight discomfort just throws her off and all her pain is self inflicted?Too bad zoomies don't believe in thick skin and decide to live by making their personality around trauma and mental illness they've experienced instead of striving to be as normal as possible.
>>106186668>just feel better lol
>>106186668If you bothered to watch streams you would know that ever since 2024 started she has been doing all of that, and even talked about it multiple times during this subathon.
>>106170188My sister killed herself and I walked in on her after, my Mom isn't the best person either but she's all I got for family.I can totally understand her pain. I think she was a retard for the groomer shit but I genuinely feel bad for her.Still a retard but who isn't in this day and age.
>>106186918unironically yes
Somnium really went to town anti-ing Shondo after she ended the subathon early.
>>106187155No shit, he does it constantly whenever he gets jealous Stupid cuck is so entitled he thinks he's owed attention from shondo because he opened his tiny wallet
>>106186318it is of course he has been stretched by heavy penises
>>106187251Just like shondo
When will all this be over?When can shondo, and all of us, go back?
>>106186968I started reading your post thinking you were about to try one-up her lmaoI'm sorry you had to go through all of that. I hope you're recovering
>>106187525You're so lost. Shondo left years ago, you should have done something thenThe current...thing that puppets her model is an evil manipulative husk that just wants money
>>106187525when she crosses the other sideso she can sleep in peace
>>106187525Just give her more money so she doesn't need to be a vtuber anymore.
>>106187563>>106187564Jesus fucking Christ shoggas I dont know which answer is more morbid can't you lighten up
im back.
I still don't think she did anything wrong... Pointing out predatory behaviour isn't hating on men....
>>106168932She should do a big donothon where the ultimate goal is "I retire and become mentally healthy", it would be good headlines.
>>106187616Hi back
>>106187658it iskill all women
>>106187658You're a predator.
I have just finished cumming inside of fallenshadow in the psych ward
>>106187793catatonic sex episode
>>106187804When she's in meltdown mode her shunny grip feels like an Indian burn
>>106187793idk she doesn't seem very tight
Can we just link shorn and make a coomer thread until this is all overhttps://files.catbox.moe/o9frjk.webm
>>106168932Michael status?
Mental institution had a breakthrough on how to cure her
maybe shondo is malkavian
https://x.com/Shonmium/status/1984428636682793172
>>106187946unironically one of the hottest pieces of digital art ever created this is EXACTLY what it's like when i'm giving her throat fuck correction, it's missing her cute little noises, vibrator taped to her shlit, and shock collar though
>>106188083>shock collar while throat fuckingWouldn't you get electrocuted too or does a shock collar's jolt not travel that far? Still hot
>>106188120depends on how strong it is, i don't mind a little pain too, it only goes off when she gets loud enough
>>106188047self awareness doko
>>106188047Zero self awareness He doesn't even realize he's describing himself He really is 60iq
>>106188083>>106188182weird incel larp
I miss the days when tubby was all we talked about
>>106188244:clueless_emojicon:
>>106188244You belong on twitter, fuck off
I'm glad that the hospital took away her internet access because ultimately that's the only thing she needs right now.Maybe some self-reflection but that's just not realistic for a foid.
>>106188292kek
>>106188265>>106188279>
>>106188120If it's reaching her aesophagus I'm pretty sure she's at least paralyzed. Also your dick doesn't have muscles in it, so it would just be tingly unless the current is generating enough heat to burn you in which case she's dead. Getting your dick bitten off is what you should be worried of.
Eli5 what she did wrong
>>106188304LMAO instantly raped
>>106188315Rapist detected.
>>106188315decided to be a dumb bitch and stick her nose where it didn't belong
>>106188304this was before shondo robbed me of my boyish innocence and corrupted mei'm not the man i was 5 seconds ago
>>106187658who did the guy try to groom? shondo admits her community is pretty fucked up but at the same time says stupid shit she knows will get support. she's butthurt anyone called her out so she decided to go on vacation early. pretending to be mentally ill to go on vacation is normal for her, she does this shit a few times a year
>>106188311>send current>her jaw locks in and rips my foreskin offShe's getting the ass beating of a lifetime for letting her inner Jew out
>>106188372KEK irl
>>106188304imagine if unc cut his losses instead of seething at king D, he might have not been a sad incel lol irl
It’s funny how she’ll use this menhera episode to explain why she can’t do the “eat meat” goal. I LOVE MY NO ACCOUNTABILITY WIFE, CHARLIE!!!!
>>106188304it's insane you guys still pretend to be this guy
>>106188371If she was just pretending that would be really messed up.
>>106188371The guy tried to groom any vtuber foolish enough to answer his DMs, probablyHe got mad because bao was describing him. Any normal person doesn't get mad at it
>>106171329everything bao said AFTER the initial tweet confirmed she meant 'yes all men'
>>106188440pedo moment
>>106188458Literally projecting, I'm not the one justifying predatory actions
>>106170381this is like marley 2.0
>>106188475wow, you got mad at that and furiously defended yourself with deflection. any normal person doesn't get mad at it so you're a pedo by your own admission rope
>>106188315> Bao made a semi-true "watch out for larger male creators as a new vtuber" statement> People took issue with this because it's gender specific when there are toxic women too, but so far so good> Bao got assblasted, made fun of bald guys, blamed Sinder for the backlash, and said a lot of misandrist stuff.> Small dude on twitter criticizes Bao for this> Shondo swoops in, says "groomer spotted"> People get pissed, because her fanbase hates frivolous accusations of sexual misconduct given they all get called pedos 24/7> Shondo makes the worst apology of the decade. Says calling people "groomers" is british humor, claims all men are potential sex pests to watch out for and that the guy she accused didn't deserve an apology and she just has to be the bigger person> Completely missed the mark, people are really pissed now.> Shondo goes on stream with a prop hat that says "CEO of grooming"> People still don't think it's very funny that she's making fun of child grooming when UK has roving grooming gangs of pakistanis> MELTY, talks about how streaming is killing her, cries, end stream> Shondophrenics declare a fatwa on everyone who has ever criticised their waifu> hopital> she deletes all 3 of the controversial tweets> hopital takes her phone away because they correctly understand she needs offline jail to chill the fuck out
>>106188520>People still don't think it's very funny that she's making fun of child grooming when UK has roving grooming gangsAnd now you know why noncium has been having a complete melty seeing as this is what landed him on the sex offenders registry
>>106188551grooming gangs in the uk don't end up on that tho. they get protected by the entire state apparatus
>>106188520.... This is what my feed is full of. This? Seriously? Is it because there was no vtuber drama recently and people were itching for a new event? Biggest waste of all time from all sides
>>106187793You think they let all of the immigrants in the psych ward? Probably having the time of their life with that little English rose. Also did anyone else see that reddit post circulating around about the British lady whose elderly dad died because neither the nurses nor the doctor could speak English? That’s who is in charge of Shondo right now, by the by.
>>106188571Lmao that would be so funny and dystopian if you were rightRight...
>>106188571Explains why he's able to walk free and still be a danger to children All hail bongistan
>>106188572nobody wants to be called a potential rapist by their favorite cartoon puppet on the internet anon
>>106188588>little English roseThis has to be written by a predator ain't no way
The people who give her money are not gonna stop because she defended bao, but she ran into the dissonance of hating her fans but also wanting them and she fumbled along by making the apology until she got stressed out and had a meltdown.
>>106188588where she lives all the staff and 90 percent of patients will be non british she's gonna be tied up in bed while they film the gangbang. shondo will be having the time of her life
>>106188633a shondo would say it's british humour
>>106188609Was the guy even a shogga to begin with? All I know is he's a vet
>>106188520Also both Bao and Shondo make 99.99% of their income directly from males donating, so to imply that you are a misandrist is the worst financial move you can make.
>>106188633it's tubby, he's the only one who calls her a rose. sick faggot projecting his cuck fantasies
>>106188665nah their audiences are so cucked and pussy whipped that they'll be fine
>>106188653I dont know why non-brits insist that wasn't British dark hunor though. Its well known about thw grooming gang problem and she was taking the piss
>>106188609It would be hot if she called my that c:
>>106188667>everyone i dont like is tubbygrab your custard, you’re gonna love this next part
>>106188667Yup lol
>>106188687>bri’ish humour is when you make light of baby bunny getting gangraped and stabbed to deathSomething tells me that she wouldn’t let that slide. But silly me, I’m asking for logical consistency from a woman. My bad.
>>106188734Weird counter argument that nobody had mentioned at all, try again maybe
>>106188748>no argument concession accepted pedo
>>106188665exactly, it was a severe woman moment on both Bao and Shondo's end.
Wow I didn't think it was possible but you schizos are worse than the OTK schizos on /b/ trying to defend this slagBitch hates men, she's having a melty because she also depends on them to make a living. She's a scumbag, end of.
>>106188748Somnium-level IQ
>>106188783truke
>>106188783of course she hates men, she’s a lesbianand yet these retarded, sad, lonely simps still give her over a hundred thousand dollars for, get this, a crumb of attention. they’ll white knight til the stars burn out on the off-chance she’ll notice them a little more (she won’t remember anything from this episode and no lessons will have been learned).
>>106188766We can invent scenarios in our heads all day like you did. There's no value or argument to be had from it. She said 3 words. Cry about it
>>106188851>she’s a lesbianlmao
>>106188856>no argumentok groomer
Probably best to stop baking until the tourism ends holy shit be more subtle
>>106188870Still waiting for yours Smile
>>106188924fuck off and kys veleck
>>106186318lolRaping with Rabbi
>>106188924>pedo melty
>>106188953Still nothing? Sadge
>>106188924I literally gave it and you admitted it was the best counter-argument ever. Keep crying while your pseudo-wife is getting diddled by John Nurse from Syria and remember that it’s YOUR fault for encouraging throughout all of this saying she did/said nothing wrong.
>>106188984You're in your mid 30s, you're never gonna have a family, and you're gonna die alone. Pretending to be an anime girl online isn't gonna change that. Why would I do anything for you?
>>106188992Your argument was inventing a schizo concept that nobody said and isnt comoarable to anything currently going on. We can all make shit up in our heads but by all means keep seething
This all happened because she lied to Otis and he gave her a catnip attack as retaliation, it was deserved to be honest
How did this place get even worse
>>106189046No, Otis is to blame. Shondo made him write that apology and he sabotaged her. Please stop defending Otis.
>>106189030Oh wow so you actually are just retarded. Okay I can try to break it down for a room-temperature IQ for you. >shondo made grooming joke about someone>brushed it off as British humour>i made grooming joke about someone close to shondo>shondo would not brush this off as British humour >ergo either shondo is a hypocrite or what she said wasn’t actually a jokeThere, was your pea-brain able to follow that locomotive of logic? Or do I need to simplify it even further for the wittle wetard?
>>106189069noncium hasn't taken the news well and is just flinging shit because he's directly responsible for this with his grooming happynodders type shit.
>>106188520>> hopital takes her phone awayfunny how this "hospital" also gives her phone to tweet and delete tweets. 100% bullshit story
>>106189046This is the headcanon I choose to believe. It's way too suspicious that Shondo went from fine to an absolute wreck in just a few hours. Obviously Otis poisioned her as revenge. Otis is a very serious manager and won't tolerate being lied to by his talent.
>>106189118If he was a mod, shondopolis would be in its Golden Age.
>>106189114Lmao melty spottedGroomer has been slang in the vtuber space for years you should know that, but when its convenient suddenly its a serious allegation again KEK
>>106188635this is the best summary. she feels guilty but also hates men
>>106188679nope. that's why shondo had a total melty. a big chunk of her audience isn't buying it
>>106189131Yeah this is the part she really fucked up on. We know enough about her previous admissions to know this was a complete lieIt's good in a way that she's safe at home and taking a break, but lying to us like this hurts
>>106187347michael has a micropeen. source: shadow mama
Groomer has never been “slang”Who is this newfag?
>>106189161nah, she'll come back and everything will be fine. she'll get another 100k for good measure
>>106189150so why did she apologize if it's just bants?your narrative falls apart
I can't see her vtubing career lasting much longer I swear the frequency of this stuff has doubled every year. Maybe my perception of time is skewed and it just feels that way but its literally causing her to spiral on a semi regular basis
>>106189193Can't wait for her to make it back just in time for another sponsored stream, the timing will just be a coincidence though lol irl
>>106189131I was trying to be as neutral in the summary as I could muster, but I also think it's bullshit.
>>106189106>>106189139and during all of this, that fat ugly bastard has been thrusting his spiny cock into the shunny, getting his slimy gunk all over her ivory skin. diabolical. but, a manager must get his payment, one way…or another
>>106189196That is the part where I dont actually agree with her, no point in picking apart the apology itself, its as simple as why bother saying sorry if you believe you're in the rightI think by that point she was mind broken when putting that shit together it sounded like a genuine child
>>106189202She’s in her desth throes both literally and metaphorically. That’s why I bounced. There’s nothing you as a viewer can do to help so it just ends up hurting both of you. Nobody will ever “win” and be able to care for her in person so why double the torture by staying around?
>>106189282I already mentally bounced at the start of this year. I stick around because her zatsus are fun but I'm not emotionally attached. But I dont have to be attached to look at her and see how sad it is
>>106189196She only apologized for “getting into dramawhoring” and “saying the quiet part out loud” (which implies its not a joke, just an unspoken truth). She didn’t ever apologize to the guy and still thinks she’s in the right (not least of all because her tubby simps keep grooming her with sweet lies of how she did nothing nor could ever do anything wrong [classic groomer manipulation technique btw])
>>106189225>be shit manager>make her more menhera>shunt feels even better the crazier she getsSugoi
>>106189161>big chunk of her audienceaka: normies who only saw her on twitter and thought she was a "based and redpilled tradwife" getting butthurt because they found out she hates men like all other vtubers.
maybe her retard brain made her think she was in a hospital? either than or the whole on stream melty was an act
>>106189457It was an act>>106187301
>>106189196If you check the time line she made the groomer comment on a whim seconds before going live. Later on it got traction and it even was pushed into the discord. Because she doesn't think she did anything wrong mostly because of how tired she is, she decides to make an apology to her fans addressing the situation and why she called the guy a groomer, it was mostly because she agrees with Bao's take and wanted to take a shot at someone who was against it. Then after more scrutiny came to the non-apology specially when her bee nise came into question by the likes of Somniun she had a dissonance where she though she was somehow being nice to the retard she called out and was explaining her reasoning.This is what happens when you don't sleep we ll, are under continuos stress and consume alcohol for multiple days
>>106189457Hospital is a codeword for my basementI'll fix her up real good, both mind and body
>>106189519good luck michael
>dress like hitler for halloween>get the shit beat out of you (mentally and emotionally)all of this was deserved as far as me and every other fascist hater is concerned.
So this is how these threads are going to be until the next big google dockey drops huh?
>>106188047He's turning into Tuffnar 2.0
>>106189565>shondo might return with her own google dockey
>>106189586If you've been around long enough, you know som is Tuffnar 1.0 (early 2024, for example). He's always been one to deflect and claim he's always in the right no matter what and that everything he does is for shondo's best whether she knows it or not. Remind you of any custard gulping lolcow?
>>106189565>damage control groomer caused her mental breakdown and has the nerve to gloat herekys
>>106188394She already ate meat...
>>106189625Nah, she's smart enough to know not to fuck with the bigger indies. Part of this bullshit is because she wanted to stick up for Bao and only made herself look more like a retard.
>>106189650stop bragging michael!
>>106188047>not white >literal retard lol irl, every time
>>106189659>fuck with the bigger IndiesI was thinking more of a doc thats just 30 pages of her going through her spiralling mental state to explain everything
>>106188047https://x.com/Shonmium/status/1984595514189283617he's right you know
>>106189711Is that really a Google Dockey? that's more just a health update. A Google Dockey needs to be juicy with lots of tea to be spilt.
someone edit this to make it (you) and shondo >>106189738no its not a google dockey, he's just a tourist/retard using words he knows but doesn't know the meaning of
Why do you all care about shonmium so much I dont really understandIs he actually a real problem to you or is he just another tubby to laugh at
>>106189785the latter. He's devolving into tubby 2.0
>>106189780>>106189738It would be a google dockey though. Blame shifting it all to her mental illness is something shed 100% do. Yes they're usually made to expose someone but that is not exclusive
>>106189785He's just a lolcow, it's funny watching the balding manchild have a temper tantrum over a girl who ignores him despite begging for her attention constantly by paying her his welfare check for the month
>>106189837Shifting what blame? she called a male vtuber a groomer. That's like calling a black male a criminal. It might not be true 100% of the time but theres still a good chance it could happen in the future if they don't already got a record already. Her biggest fuck up was pretending to apologize for it because no one bought it. Not even herself typing it.
live by the yab, die by the yab
>>106188047would be a real shame if someone sent this to the mods. definitely don't do that
>>106189973personally, i feel someone that was groomed by a woman would be more likely to say that women can be groomers too, but that's just me. shondo hates men.
>>106188520bao did defend males a bit during this to be fairshadow and her chat have been making groomer jokes the whole donothon and this was one of the things she brought up on stream afterthe concern over uk grooming gangs making the jokes not okay is bullshit as everyone is still cool with rape jokes
>>106189996So your problem is that she wasn't more inclusive?
>>106190031My problem is she's a fascist pedophile, but I'm just normal.
>>106190050The most powerful man currently in politics is a fascist pedophile too. Your words mean nothing.
Was the subathon worth it?
https://x.com/fallenshadow_YT/status/1984330338743533600I mean, that's basically all there is to this whole situation...
twitter niggas will always defend male vtubers but never actually watch them. smfh.
>>106190128Nobody has explained why I should care about this person.
twitch niggas will always defend female vtubers but never actually fuck them. smfh.
>>106189202her groomers won't abandon her even if she calls them out directly
>>106190110For shondo it was. Grifted a ton of money from her naive cucks and then fakes an episode to take another vacation
>>106190172it's easier to defend them if you don't have to put up with their shit
>>106190218all she has to do is fake mental illness and her simps save up money to throw at her when she gets back. she's done this at least twice a year since she started
I think she finally found her rhythm again with streaming! Shondothon == success!!
>>106190218>>106190271money rolling in>im so happy lol i can stream 12 hours a day!!!!!money stops and the griftathon ends>um actually im instantly psychotic How the actual fuck does anyone buy this shit lmao
shondo knows not to mess with the mean girls
>>106190301That line is so funny now in retrospect It's actually sad she put that in. Her greed knows no bounds. Holding normal streams hostage behind a paywall then faking 'muh mental hort' is shameless
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>>106190390Man, what a strange coincidence! Luckily this can't possibly be related to a known greedy whore faking a mental breakdown. Thank god she doesn't have a history of doing that
>>106190390i regret buying a shumo so disgusted i can barely hatefuck it anymore
>>106190468I don't. Might be the last Shumo anyone ever gets. It's valueable now.
if shondo was an ameritard, all her ebt would be cancelled today. think about that. now donate another $10k to her right now or DIVORCE
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>>106190569Oh yeah, that's right the US government is still shut down. What a fucking mess. Why is the west struggling so badly?
>>106190569she's not poor it's part of the grift
>>106190702>he still thinks you have to be poor to receive SNAP benefitsyou have much grifting to learn, young simp...
