There's really a person who just waits in /#/ for shit to dump on the catalog

>>106232413
these two are everything that's wrong with vtubing

>>106232413
>The face of poaching
>Helped poach Mint
>Only one to be mysteriously fired too
>"I KNEW NOTHING"


Who believes this shit?

>>106232555
But he didn't post Bao and Shondo

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>>106232568
>Iron "gunrun is my dad" Mouse the shadow-CEO
Knew nothing, saw nothing
>Project "I am literally fucking the CFO of the company and mysteriously vanished after the company imploded" Melody
Knew nothing, saw nothing
>Geega "I literally brag about how I joined to 'fix the sinking ship' and attended ALL internal meetings to address problems" Software
Knew nothing, saw nothing and certainly couldn't warn anyone joining the company
>Matara "I got mysteriously fired and never said anything about it while pretending everything is sunshine and rainbows" Kan
Knew nothing, saw nothing and certainly couldn't warn anyone joining the company

>>106232635
What amazes me is that none of the normies or other streamers thought it was strange that no one sued vsj, or gunrun, or that weirdo who was second in command. Everyone simply forgot or turned a blind eye

>>106232413
It's plausible that some of them weren't in on it but they all knew there huge problems. And it's impossible Ironmouse and Melody didn't know the full scope of the problems. That's what happens when you're in a pyramid scheme, if you don't keep up your part of the pyramid you're never gonna see you money, so you need new gullible suckers (Minto and her gen) to siphon money from.

Everyone knew. It was just in their best interest to ignore it and treat it like someone else's problem.

hello fellow 'women', let us gossip

>>106232837
They were all just waiting, hoping to migrate all their merch and everything else away from Vshojo while hoping it could limp along and earn a few more bucks to pay them out. Matara went too far with it (probably tried to fully divest everything so they made 0) from her) and got fired. The rest knew the first one to pull the fire alarm would fuck themselves and everyone else over. Only when Ironmouse realized she was gonna be complicit in outright charity fraud, a serious crime, and liable to an independant 3rd party, did she panic and pull the plug to save herself.

>>106232413
I would get it if they wouldn't know the happenings inside VShojo, even hololive talents are not told everything about their inner workings, like new gens until it's very close to announcing it. They keep everything locked.
But to say "a lot of the industry knew", but you didn't? I assume when she says industry, those are VShojo outsiders, then how the fuck do outsiders of the company knew about shit happening, but the employees themselves don't, how does that make any sense?

>>106232413
People like that Armchair guy who made his name off of Sayu have been passively aggressively attacking the talents for months before over petty subjective shit:
>why are you even talking; you should have kept your mouth shut, you know nothing
On the AmaLee announcement and Zen.

>why didn't you speak up; you let others suffer, you should of known more
On Vshojo falling

Guy's a huge Phase fag of course and never applies his weird standard to them. So you get these tribal audiences from these orbiters as a result.

>>106232413
It literally makes no sense considering talents left YEARS AGO because of this stuff. Obviously the fucking talents knew. WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT

>>106232946
To be fair, he was pretty critical of VShojo, like their lack of PR.
The talents unintentionally became the PR voice for VShojo.
Take Zen talking about pushing for new people for auditions. For an outsider looking in, it looks like she was pulling the strings and had some involvement in the running of VShojo.

>>106232413
theres no way they had no idea
these whores are just propping each other up hoping the full truth doesnt get out
disgusting women

>>106232413
>2 big shots, Nyana and Vei that the rest of girls were in contact with leave causing massive shitstorm and smear campaign
>vshojo girls "allegedly" have been working for years with no payments for anything
>vshojo girls were taking part in auditioning new girls that would come to Vshojo, and turns out most of them were fucked over with none debuting as planned
>ironmouse has been a face of vtubing on twitch, breaking sub goal and doing collabs with all the big creators
And you want me to believe none of them knew? Including ironmouse?

>>106232413
>>106232635
please understand, even tho they werent paid for months, and tho the charity kept asking where was the money of their charity stream for a whole year, or the drugs, harrassment and constant bullshit, they really knew nothing

>>106233025
You know, this is the part that doesn't make sense to me. The talents trying to hide the truth while they're the ones not getting paid. They had the most incentive to get the word out as early as possible to get their money.

I think they knew a lot, and what is about to come out is so bad that it would ruin their careers if they admitted to actually knowing about it. The only ones I think who probably didn't know much were the JPs, as they were only dealing with the one middle manager who was getting lied to. Plus I feel like if the JPs knew crazy shit, Miguel would have already told us about it.

>>106233062
You'd be surprised how long people will go without getting paid, especially creatives. They're used to being strung along and just accept it. And for the vshojo talents the amounts were getting so large, they were in denial about not ever seeing that money. A lot of people are afraid to speak out in these industries about these practices because it's a very fast way to get blacklisted.

>>106233072
even miguel could smell something was fishy, as she left them many months prior to the dumpster fire ending

>>106232946
I defended Zaion from the twitter freaks
I defended Froot from the dramatards that supported Sayu
I defended Shondo from both the twitter freaks and dramatards
It's all so tiring

>>106233072
>Kson: This is the best company for VTubers!
>Also kson: I haven't been paid for over six months

>>106232413
These retards don’t know how stinky Mel is

>>106232413
the latter.

>>106233062
They were too trusting on them.
Remember the "we work on a trust basis" comment they said to Shylily.
This is a business, never take anything on trust.
I'd take restrictive companies that have rules laid up front and exact earnings, than these snakes that pretend to be your friend.

>>106233125
You can justify a few talents this way, but not the whole group
especially if you think about the fact that they don't get paid at the same time, and they communicate with each other, but don't talk about this situation?

>>106232946
I wonder how phasefags don't feel exhausted sticking their nose into every single issue outside their corpo but never their own shit like that one girl dropping out of debut days before.

>>106233316
You need to understand dude, when they all don't get paid for month, 2 large creators like Nyanners and Vei that were "best girlies" leave and then they are all radio silence about them, or when the girls they auditioned never debut they were all not aware of anything around them in the company.

>>106233316
You'd be surprised how little people talk about money in private. This kind of situation is why they should--but people are afraid of finding out they are making less or making a lot more.

>>106233072
Ironmouse probably would be one of them. Everyone else went to those VShojo parties. Are you telling me nobody even asked what's the deal with these things that were happening?

>>106233137
Has she said anything about the situation? Did she leave BECAUSE they weren't paying her?

>>106233316
There was no unity in VShojo, everyone did their own thing.

>>106233316
The vajojo contract literally said "don't talk about money" under threat of being fired and sued. So no, they didn't talk about it.

>>106233350
They are too small for people to care about reporting anything they do, unless there's something major.
In comparison, other bigger companies are scrutinized for the smallest thing.

>>106232635
stop noticing :)

>>106233420
What would they do, put bugs in their homes and listen to their phone calls?
VShojo collabing with the FBI?

>>106233480
Have you heard of matara kan

>>106233495
Not sure what you are implying? Care to explain?

>>106233508
She was a vshojo talent who got fired and slandered for asking too many questions and she hasn't recovered yet

>>106232413
>a lot of the industry knew
>but none of the vshojo members knew it!
lol lmao, are these bitches even serious?

>>106233365
>>106233402
I thought about personal calls, but I realized the talents themselves didn't know who to trust and who was working with Gunrun. So there's some logic to it

>>106233727
>"a lot of the industry"
>look inside
>it's one weird twitter guy who roleplays as a cat

>>106233379
she just said it was a shitty deal she fell for, to paraphrase, no details

>>106233379
There are no bilingual people who care enough to watch her regularly to see if she ever brought it up.

>>106233748
anon that quote is from matara, i have no idea what you are trying to do here

>>106233508
>bugs

>>106233794
i am providing additional context.

>>106233013
The problem is that he doesn't apply that standard evenly. I would respect it if Armchair was open about his bias and presented arguments catered to Vshojo's circumstances (ex: why does Mousey really need another model? Why can't an only 12 talent company do projects together?).

But his arguments are more board based with PR and he applies his critiques differently depending on who he likes. For example no matter how you turn it the events of Off Kai 2024 were a completely disaster PR wise for Phase and what they tended to accomplish. Yet you would think that Conner speaking out for Mousey against Kai fans was a bigger PR disaster with how differently the two are treated with Armchair.

It's like his rants about how bad journalism is all the time despite Armchair doing journalism and having gone to school for journalism. The double standards make no sense.

>>106233878
>why does Mousey really need another model?
You want to watch a guy bitch about someone spending their own money on stuff that they enjoy?

>>106233379
all I know is some menhera stuff like she felt that Vshojo were trying to steal her jp audience

this bitch was recruiting for vshojo til the day they shut down

>>106234396
that's almost as bad as miko still recruiting for hololive after they put chama in the mental hospital

>>106234559
>miko still recruiting for hololive
When did that happen?

>>106232413
I give you a hint OP. Read the last line of the first tweet.

>>106234581
yesterday

>>106234622
You must be retarded.

matara bad

>>106234559
hololive pays their talents

>>106234747
that's not what chammers said

>>106234775
It's exactly what haachama said, in fact she was malding that Yagoo was giving too many sponsored streams to the retard HS dropout

>>106234819
oh yea that's why she had a 6 hour crashout. because they paid her too much money. lmao.

>>106234819
I thought she said she hasn't gotten paid in half a year

>>106234836
that is correct

>>106234559
>deflection

>>106232413
If these people said that they knew about this for so long why didn't they say anything before Vshojo died

>>106234831
They paid her plenty, she just got scammed by her dad (he also molested her as a child until her mother sent her to live abroad)

>>106234865
Because not enough people want to admit that looking the other way because you dint want to rock your own boat is an acceptable option

>>106234775
She was also taking few hundreds thousands dollars interest-free "loan" from Cover. AFAIK none of VShojo member took any loan from VShojo

>>106232946
Armchair is a fraud and 100% a phasecuck pushing an agenda, but he's not wrong about Vshojo the suspicion is 100% warranted. I literally don't understand how we are supposed to believe this "i saw nothing i heard nothing" horseshit, the amount of copes and excuses they had to conjure to even explain this is insane
>well you know we just don't talk to each other. like, ever. EVER.
>oh yeah I didn't get paid for months but I assumed it was just me and never thought to ask anyone else about it haha
>lawyers? what even are those?

>>106233464
That's a cope, the "nothing happens in phase sing sei" is 100% intentional by dramatubers and has nothing to with their size. The funny thing is that the one single(1) twittard dramaroach who even addressed the Clara yab specifically and vocally did so solely to "fight the accusation" that he's a phase shill (and of course he sided with the clara antis while simultaneously saying fishfag can't do anything about it so he dindunuffin wrong).

>>106234559
>ex-Vshojofags using sisters talking points
How low can you go?

>>106234865
>>106234894
When Nyan and Vei left VSJ, they faced a huge backlash. When some indies talk about their experiences auditioning for VSJ, they're faced the same backlash. I can only assume "those people" were afraid of backlash from Ironmouse and her fans

>>106234934
vshojo actually did something similar but on a much smaller scale and then didn't pay the artists who the loan was for lol
>>106234945
the truth hurts

>>106235133
>the truth hurts
What did she say that counts as "recruiting for hololive"?

>>106235157
the same exact things that matara said which count as "recruiting for vshojo" according to the guy i replied to

>>106235171
>the same exact things
Be specific.

>>106235215
>i love my company and all the girlies they treat us well and the staff are all nice don't slanderino :)
mata was constantly saying that shit up until they sacked her

>>106232635
This exact image is defending the talents involved. Why did you provide an image that directly counters your written post?

Who/How did people in the "industry" know before the people working there?

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>>106235025
it turns out that backlash was literally paid for by Vshojo, partially for posts on this very board.

MTD is an embarrassing child that will never be able to show himself in credible circles ever again. It's so funny. I like the implication he was the one who hit up the jav actress asking for tax help while being a cheapskate.

>>106233125
>You'd be surprised how long people will go without getting paid

Hell no. Maybe 1 month, if I knew the company was having financial troubles, but the second time I'm denied a paycheck, the Department of Labor will be kicking down Gunrun's and Melody's bf's doors in the middle of the night.

>it's a very fast way to get blacklisted.
The only reason a company would blacklist you for that is if they were planning to not pay you, as well. The black companies will filter themselves doing that.

>>106235365
this is not the truth. vshojo is not "shut down" yet. every single talent left before they shut down.
>>106235373
no that was an ex-holo manager that vshojo poached.

>>106233218
Okay, but how good is her pussy game? I'll bet she could make any man orgasm 5 times in 1 minute, with as much practice as she puts in.

>>106235391
>paycheck
>Department of Labor
vtubers are not employees with a salary

>>106235391
vshojo paid quarterly. so every 3 months the talents should get their paycheck. so in your example vshojo could go backrupt right after a paycheck, then the talents wouldn't notice until 2 missed almost 9 months later.

>>106235417
You're right only on technicality, the company might legally still exists but the CEO has verbally said it's done and media treats it as such ("was" a company, etc.)
Froot then said she "didn't get to finish her termination process" before the company decided to "shut down publicly" so she basically admitted it.

>>106232413
Froot is still a thing? Gross!

>>106235574
can you elaborate how hiring a lawyer to figure out how to exit her contract legally before tweeting that she left makes her a conspirator in a crime? i don't understand the logic.

>>106235244
>i love my company
She didn't say that.

>>106235475
If they signed a contract that made them perpetual contractors instead of employees, that is just retarded, but even then you can still sue for wages, which would probably get a deposit in your account within minutes to avoid publically being outed in court

>>106235655
Why do you think hiring a lawyer prevents you from tweeting?

https://youtu.be/ktF5BI_8xQo?si=Rtbu2fRQD6W_3SKe

>>106235874
every non-retarded lawyer recommends that their clients do not tweet their current legal maneuvers. i can only assume that you've seen trump do that and then think it's normal. it isn't.

>>106235864
>wages
you really don't seem to understand what i said

>>106235808
she has several times.
>>106235864
i don't know if you've been following current events but the current administration is more likely to pardon gunrun than prosecute him.

>>106235564
4 months. Not nine. I'd be asking for my money every day after the missed payment. Just because the checks are supposed to come only every 3 months doesn't mean they can't write one at any time. And you can bet like hell I'd be in contact with every other member about it. It is illegal to forbid an employee/contractor from talking about their pay with other employees/contractors. That part of the contract would be non-binding.

I'm just saying that they all acted either extremely fishy or extremely stupidly. And I know, "never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity" but there's only so much stupidity to go around, here.

When you are so hands on and buddy buddy with the owners like things were in VShojo, I don't believe any of them.

The amount of "I had no idea ;)" the ex Vshojo talents play is enough to insult your intelligence. Even from down to the failed predebuts who are great friends with Mint and Matara not having "any idea" they got hired or would have certain people as senpais. In every other company, the standard is new talents get added to the company discords/slack/server once they are hired. Everywhere except Vshojo I guess cause they aren't with it enough and talents aren't kept in the loop yeah sure. Kayfabing talents and gatekeppeing talents in Vshojo is stronger than every other corpo.

Im a Phasefag, but if shit went down with longstanding issues that were going on for years and any of Pippa, Tenma, Lia & Uruka tried to say "I had no idea," that is cap you have seen all and know all when it comes to your company you know where all the bodies are buried. Nobody has seen more shit than you, just say "I needed the job and it wasn't worth it to quit, so I looked the other way"

>>106234559
Everyone, its Gunrun! Get his ass!

>>106236205
>Im a Phasefag
we noticed

>>106236128
>4 months. Not nine.
i did my math wrong. i meant 6 months.
> I'd be asking for my money every day after the missed payment.
congrats, you're kson.
>And you can bet like hell I'd be in contact with every other member about it.
that's what mata did and she got fucked over.
>It is illegal to forbid an employee/contractor from talking about their pay with other employees/contractors
it's extremely common to do that, actually. every major tech company does that. my job does that and it sucks ass and i'm poor.
>I'm just saying that they all acted either extremely fishy or extremely stupidly.
you're being hindsight man. you have to consider that none of the talents even considered the company being a scam an option. they were all making money and knew vshojo would also be making money if gunrun wasn't blowing all of it on retarded shit. they all assumed they and gun were business partners and all on the same team and he would not rob them so they would continue to work and make money together for a long time.

>>106232568
Never poached Mint.

>>106232413
The other POVs got nuked but here's the conversation that likely set all this off w/timestamp:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2607630274?t=3h50m00s

>>106236434
Well yeah the company collapsed so the deal fell through

>>106236585
mint didn't get poached. she went to gunrun and pitched her idol idea to him. to be poached would mean the opposite of that.

>>106236643
And why did she go to gunrun?

>>106236703
because the only alternative is fishman who would take her ip

>>106236764
Well i dint know about all that invaders shit so i dont know how the ip stuff works out, but phase has actually done something for mint, given her a 3d performance i think it was, and she has a friend in lia. Despite this she still chose to go with gunrun. Could this have anything to do with the fact that matara was the one who reached out to her before her redebut as mint, and could have been grooming her, for lack of a better term?

>>106233480
vshojo was a mossad op, anon
emphasis on was
AAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

>>106236643
>>106236703
>>106236764
>>106236882
Women truly do run from the practical ownership of one man to another. And because of their horrible judgement, that man will probably be a Riku or a Gunrun.

>>106236882
Phase wouldn't have taken Mint's IP that is not how they operate.
They likely would have just debuted her as Mint Phantom, or given her size, they would have said she is coming in as Mint Fantome she keeps it and they give her part ownership of the company. If a talent that big was ever seriously considering your company, you give what she wants

>>106236099
>she has several times.
https://pastebin.com/VtRTQBjn
Where?

>>106236882
I honestly believe she was promised the moon by vshojo. They rode on the talent freedom and good splits train, but the boiler was fired by shoveling in VC money.

If signing with phase ever was on the table, the contract would have looked much worse in comparison, especially if you want to keep your IP. From what I understand, in these cases (like lumi) phase is a management-as-a-service provider.

>>106236882
at the time she approached them vshojo had a reputation of taking in vtubers who were unhappy where they were and seemed much happier after joining vshojo. i don't know if that was before or after her phase concert, but either way vshojo still had a lot more concerts than phase does.
>>106237107
>@vtange (21:37): Lastly, having taken this stream, I want to say that being active isn't only pain, I hope more of you will come to like me and like this place more
it's this line which the guy didn't translate that well but i was speaking in a general sense. when i watched hololive miko talked about her love for hololive all the time. if she doesn't anymore, this is news to me and lol.

>>106237340
So we went from
>she said it multiple times in the stream
to
>I was speaking in a general sense
>it was one time, but it's mistranslated
Ok, faggot.

>>106233164
In retrospect that was pretty funny.
>pros: everything
>cons: nothing

>>106237472
one time on that stream and millions of times in other streams, yes.

>>106237504
in retrospect you should hang yourself

>>106237509
She has 2 more streams since then. One playing GTA and another that is currently ongoing.
How many times did she say she loves hololive, retard.

>>106237573
i don't watch that stuff anymore. i have no idea.

>>106237621
But you were confident enough to say she said it a million times.
What happened?

>>106237645
do you understand the concept of the passage of time? i stated that i watched her in the past, and now i no longer do. that's how i know things she said a while ago but not the things she's saying on her stream right now. because i'm not watching her now.

>>106236507
So the "Monster" group knew about the charity embezzlement before the actual talents.
How the fuck does that happen?

>>106237717
Why did you talk about things that you don't know?
You said that she did the same thing as Matara, yet now you say you don't know anything?
What does her talking about hololive in the past matter before the Haachama situation?
Are you retarded or something?

>>106237729
because they went to offkai, which was almost certainly attended by the investor gunrun pitched to, who is almost certainly the source of the rumor.
>>106237796
i'm not talking about things i don't know. i was talking about that stream, which i did watch because i like chammers, and her past streams, which i also watched. miko's damage control was very similar to mata's, who i also watched. i also know japanses btw.

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>>106232413
OH MY GOD LET IT GO HAVE YOU TRIED MAKING CONTENT MATARA MAKE CONTENT TO GET MORE VIEWERS IF VSHOJO IS SO BAD SUCCEED WITHOUT THEM YOU PEOPLE ARE ALL SNAKES

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>>106237836
>because they went to offkai
Let's see who went to Offkai.
You're telling me nobody told them about it?

>>106236507
So she thinks people call her a greedy bitch for getting fired and not because she shills merch endlessly and barely streams

>>106237531
ksonkek seethe

>>106238123
brownvtmfag seethe

>>106238003
do you understand that having a meet and greet does not require their physical presence at the event?

>>106232413
I think they're just being stupid. They don't want to be associated with it being bad, so it's safer to just downplay it as nothing happened.

>>106240952
>it's safer to just downplay it
All of the former talents I watch bring it up every stream and rant about how mad they are about it

>>106232413
finally some new dramas. these are women worthy of your hate

>>106232413
Think that all have been exposed already?
Not even close.
Some lawsuits need to initiated so can uncover more through discovery.

>>106237842
Matara is not skilled enough to make good content on her own

>>106232413
hm

>>106236205
lmao

>>106236434
It was just a complete coincidence that they were both in Niji and Mint come back specifically to collab non-stop with her after signing a contract with Vshojo

>>106236205
Why would you type all of that and then destroy all credibility of your opinion three quarters of the way through the post?

>>106237842
too busy taking vacations

>>106237842
She doesn't do content anymore. She gets merch made, and she takes said merch to cons, which are usually 3 days long, but she needs a week to get there and unpack and a week afterwards to rest, leaving her audience with like 5 streams a month, and no one complains because that's their mommy.

>>106250226
Wtf happened, she streamed regularly in niji. Does her merch sell that well?

>>106252849
It sells even less, but she's making more than 2% of each sale so it's a net positive

>>106248687
Mint came back because Matara convinced her to not give up on being a vtuber. Putting together the podcast & inviting her to collabs was her way of getting her to commit to streaming again.

>>106248687
>mint is a liar, believe me instead
no
>>106252849
she has a sporadic schedule due to stress over her lawsuit which she explained last night

>>106253186
Why is she being sued?

>>106253889
She isn't, she's the one who's suing

>>106232413
>is she just milking it for views
Look at all the clipbait she's said about her treatment in niji to find your answer

>>106232635
The greatest benefit of the doubt I can muster is that these girls knew the company was going down, but they didn't want to break NDA believing they'd get their pay if they kept their mouths shut even as their fans were heaping money onto the business.

>>106253889
she *thought* she was getting sued because for some reason she assumed she was the source of a rumor but that apparently isn't true. but aside from that she is suing vshojo for presumably firing and slandering her and they owe her money too.

>>106232413
>spend years dramafarming off clips whining about your previous job not helping you with money
>somehow also be completely oblivious to the fact that your current job is not paying you
Yeah I don't buy it. On the bright side, the fact that they feel concerned enough to tweet about it shows that they recognize the situation is starting to spiral out of their control, that it's not something they can just ignore and expect it to go away. They've realized that not everyone is blindly on their side.

So let me get this straight, the industry knew. But we won't say who the industry actually is. None of the talents EVER knew except their jobs rely on them interfacing with each other and higher ups on the regular. And then we vague post about some crazy things to drum up interactions.

>>106232635
REEEEE! STOP NOTICING THEY'RE PERFECT PRINCESSES!!!!

>>106232635
STOP NOTICING, ITS ANTI SEM-wait nvm
Sorry, force of habit.

Being sincere unless the 500K from the donathon were registered as a tax write off, there is not criminal act to persecute. That being said considering the IRS was gutted at the start of the year I can see people doing accountant magic and buring the whole thing.

>>106258752
Kek

>>106232413
Weren’t they not getting paid for almost a year? How do you not know anything is wrong?

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>>106232413
And another one has joined the train

>>106232413
even the fucking random posters here knew it, who are they trying to fool

>>106233072
I won't doubt that lawsuits are going to come out, lots of public statements are gonna be thrown out. This seems like damage control to prepare for an expose or google dockey coming out

>>106232413
>Is she getting ahead of some drama
someone is planning to release a huge google dockey, I bet

>>106264073
something forced her hand to make this public, huh? I wonder what this party is

>>106266519
She person she quote-retweeted is Phoebe's manager, talking about how vshojo staff was trying to hide the state of the company from the pre-debut talents.

>>106241116
>>106244703
>>106254113
>>106258297
Fuck off nijisisters

>>106266665
not sure why it's necessary for her to speak up about it unless she feels like it's necessary. She could've left it alone, she already made a statement at the time during the peak of the drama. That's her prerogative, I guess

>>106232413
Dumb cunts.

>>106232635
Lie enough and it's second nature.

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>>106232413
The important part that you missed: a storm is coming

>>106268777
classic niji tactics
>something big is coming
>exciting things soon
>you havent seen anything yet
>debut 2.0
>big things this year

>>106269600
When will people gain pattern recognition and stop falling for this man? It's getting sad how this keeps repeating itself.

>>106270854
>When will people gain pattern recognition and stop falling for this man?
Actually she's a woman.

>>106237842
NIJISEETHE

gunrun, melody, mtd, and danny boy are going to prison.

>>106274206
>no mention of ironcharityembezzler

>>106253186
She's had sporadic schedule for over a year this is just the newest excuse

>>106232413
>FOR TALENT
>BY TALENT
>TALENT FIRST
>literal screen shots of dms showing talents controling and running the company essentially
..
>NO GUYS ALL THESE HORRIBLE THINGS THAT HAPPENED WE WERE TOTALLY IN TEH DARK AND NEVER KNEW WE WERE ACTUALLY THE VICTIMS!!!!!!

>>106275680
you lost simon

>>106232413
yeah i dont buy this shit at all

>>106232413
She's literally the least effected and most whiney nobody is milking this shit as much as her