The statement put out by Cover was disgusting.While I'm glad they didn't terminate her, the way they downplayed everything Haato said because she was having an episode is deplorable. Most of the statement wasn't even about her but about protecting other talents.I want to know if she is safe and away from her fucked up family but knowing them they've probably had her hospitalized again.
You tried buddy. It might work better if you reply to yourself a few times.
>>106252405>My parents are abusive. I already know that everyone is just gonna brush me off as crazy>Hololive: "We got her parents to take care of her. Don't listen to her! She's crazy" Grim
>>106252405You have to first say Cover did nothing wrong, that they tried the best they could regarding her condition. Then you can talk about what she's been going through.
>>106252405Visiting Chama in the JP mental institution and plapping her butt uoh
>>106252405corpo usual M.O:>mental breakdowns >hiatus>we did nothing wrong
>>106252405>>106252572>>106252638>>106252894>>106253592This one's trying really hard eh
>>106253693??
>>106252405They didn't downplay anything. She was literally having a manic episode and was off her meds.You're trying to pretend that she didn't spend 30 minutes talking about how she literally thought there were people talking outside her apartment door who were planning to kill her, and that makes you a disingenuous faggot retard that should be hit in the head with a bat.
>>106252405You're acting like this is Haachama's statement that got hijacked by the other talents, but it's kinda the other way around. The main purpose of the statement is to acknowledge that they're taking legal action against people slandering the other talents. Haachama is just there for context.That's not because they don't care about her. It's just that mental health breaks don't normally get big, permanent, official website statements like this. Usually they'd just post something on xitter for the fans to read, because the fans are the only ones who'd need to read it. A statement like this one is reserved for when they want to reach a wider audience, which is usually for one of two reasons:>A permanent change in the company (such as a graduation)>A warning that they'll be suing peopleHaachama's hiatus doesn't meet the 1st requirement, so the 2nd one is the only reason the statement exists at all.Even if this statement was just for her, I still don't see your issue with it. They said she's taking a break for her mental health, and told people not to take her words out of context. What else should they have said? They can't tell us anything about her family or medical situation because that's personal information, they can't share that behind her back. A "we wish her the best during her recovery" would've been nice, but hopefully it's just corporate nip autism that made them not want to put any human flourishes in a formal statement like this.
not my problem
>>106252405>two people with "mental episodes" reveal behind the scenes stuff and feelings of unfairness>one is completely believed and people work really hard to connect the dots with colors markers and few receipts>all drama tubers cover it>the other is dismissed as crazy and everything is sweep under the rug by most>drama tubers cover it less and latch on to the mental health stuff over claims that have surfaced before at corposReally makes you think.
>>106261317Cover bootlickers are way to quick to side with Hololive but Haachama isn't nearly at the same level as Selen when the company went out of their way to smear her. They literally did the black stream to overlap Doki even after she had quit so there was clear evidence that both management and the other talents were attacking her. Had they not let Elira take control of a literal smear campaign there would have been more doubts but they made it clear they wanted to demoralize Doki.
>>106261858Niji EN was fucking amateur hour. I very much doubt Cover is going to be that noob if they want to bury a vtuber. They have plenty of practice
>>106253891>She was literally having a manic episode and was off her medsShe was speaking clearly and concisely. She flat out said she'd be dismissed by faggots like you as crazy. She even fucking wrote perfectly. Pretty strange for a manic episode
>>106260853Least heartless Holodrone response
I just hope she’s ok, honestly.
HOLOLIVE IS GOODNO MORE QUESTIONS
>>106264346She was saying that nobody hang out with her, when less than two weeks before she went with Nene to a amusement park.She said that nobody invited her to collabs when she was part of Lamy fitness event and in Matsuri concert.She clearly wasn't in a good state of mind.
>>106252405Reimu, you gotta stop
>>106252405Saying that some of what Haachama said was a result of mental instability and saying that all of it was a result of mental instability are two very different things anon. What was exaggerated by her intense mental breakdown and what was true that she was frustrated about we don't know. This is why Miko said not to spread rumors. We don't know the details besides just her just alluding to things.
>>106268087The only thing I can find about Nene going to a theme park with Haachama was 4 years ago. Which also wasn't the point. She said she was purposely excluded by a group of people from things who would use her "introversion" as an excuse to not invite herShe also never said that no one collabed with her. She said she was isolated and excluded when her numbers were bad then once they went up, everyone started to want to collab with her again but not a single one wanted to be her friend
>>106252405two more weeks until they soft graduate haato
>>106268995>She said she was isolated and excluded when her numbers were bad then once they went up, everyone started to want to collab with her againHmmm
>>106252405>While I'm glad they didn't terminate herI wouldn't bank on it
>>106268087didn't roboco also go on a trip with her a few months ago?I think someone complied the number of haachama collab this year and showed that haachama has more collab than average of all holo. gen 1 is also probably in top 3 for having the most gen collab this year, with fubuki being 4th from all collab partner. miko also had solo collab and made duet cover with haachama.I saw some haaton from 10/30 declared that cover should includes haachama in small group as a start such as member from same generation. so those clearly don't know what they are talking about.I don't even know how the rrat started and ignored some thing like this >>106270055 which fit in every description that haachama complained.
>>106268995>The only thing I can find about Nene going to a theme park with Haachama was 4 years ago.I don't know if it was a theme park, but here you go. Carry on. https://x.com/momosuzunene/status/1980258547524091994
>>106268087here is morehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3VpUBelykshaachama and roboco went to laplus place, roboco was talking about it on stream.
>>106270817*about a month ago
Sora:Sun Yat-senThe chairman Miko: MaoFubuki:Zhou EnlaiSuisei:Lu XunMatsuri:Chiang Kai-shekHaato: Liu ShaoqiPower struggle is inevitable.They were once comrades who shared the same belief, but in the end of the day became the most powerful foes against each other.We’re witnessing the history
>>106270817roboco and haachama also went on a trip to america together last year.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZXg0mtMNpwroboco is probably the closest one to haachama. Too bad, haachama doesn't think of her as friend.
>>106252405Hololive is a freemason orginisation and alot of the first talents were from mason families. Hachamaa probably flunked out of mkultra school so now they are in damage control.
>>106270833Yes, and? That's recent by 'I only hang out with other people if they invite me' standard. If she doesn't like it then go and invite other girls. The victim and perpetrator here are both herself, the best a company can do here is recommend mental therapy >But she isnt crazy, her parents and sisters are abusing herThen move out. There is no way she isnt above 18 right now, and she was one of the more popular bunches back then, there is no way she don't have enough money. At worst she can move in with one of the girls until she gets her own place, but she prefers keeping to herself and mentally vent to her chat instead. Al
>>106272282You know anon, you seem to be assuming a lot. You think she sees things nobody else does. Well, didn't she mention she had a hard experience in HoloGTA. Was she right about that?
I am prepared to hate but I think Chama still likes everybody at Cover so I'll be cool for now
>>106268895I remember seeing those JP antis saying that Miko stream is equivalent to Niji's black screen too.But those faggots were the ones digging up shit from 4-5 years ago as well so I don't take them seriously.
>>106272604More on thathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp4E5o9Ybnw>Man, those early days were tough to watch. Gen 1 in particular was very harsh and blunt to her lmao>crazy how many unfortunate events she had on the first and second day, it made me feel bad somehow... and it's kinda sad how the gang / the people who are doing crimes are the only one that are ike a family to her>I can't believe she's having this much of a hard life, her holoGTA story is inspirational even when she only played for 3 days?>From outsider, watching Haachama she's like a wild card in GTA, but actually she's doing her best>I saw her perspective but i couldn't understand most of what she said.. but i sure felt her pain in the story.>Oh man, this was so good I had to watch it all in one sitting. Her arc broke my heart and raised it up with such happiness.>Hadnt seen much of her in hologta and damn she was at rock bottom but still persevered, thats our haachama>I'm glad she can come back in her final days. The "Arigatou Towa-chan" and the "pause" when she in the call with Towa TT it's really got me, she literally struggling in hard times.>It's Sad to see Her cried many times...>No one taught her how to rob until day 3? Kinda f up>the end when she was talking to towa in the casino made me tear up, thank you for translating and showing me a perspective of her in hologta <3 i regret whole heartedly not watching her pov. you did a great service with this video, friend
>>106271820strong rrat
>>106272604The gang was somehow the most level headed faction in hologta despite Peko being part of itToo bad she had to leave early like day 3-4 or somethingAt least no one forgot her at the ending
>>106268995>>106264346>>106252405Seems to me that you're an EOP trash that is a victim of a English slop clippers. Do yourself a favor and study Japanese. OR do us a favor by killing yourself.
>>106261858I wasn't talking about Selen but Bari. The Bari and Haachama stuff are covered WAY too differently for happening so close together regardless to the likeability of some people.
>>106273260Yeah they come off well here. Not the only members, Laplus and Watame in particular on the police side. Ao also said something I really liked in her role in mechanic.>Ao : The car is all done!>Roboco : It's all fixed!>Haachama : Thanks - Uoooh! Sugoi! Did you put stickers on my car? It's awesome!>Ao: Hearing 'awesome' from you, it brings me joy. Ever been praised for fixing the car? Only after this car.People should notice things like this too.
>>106274261Ao tried to defend Biboo in the holo minecraft server after other members taught her yabai JP phrases tooAnd that was just right before her hiatus (and eventual graduation)
>>106252405Cool, and? What's the point of posting this on a holococksucker board?
>>106261317>MULTIPLE Niji talent graduate/terminate>reincarnate>almost ALL confirm workplace mistreatment from the top down and from within/waves>Sisters either half confirm it too or sperg out becasue they like the status quo>no sisters refute facts when shown>Holo talent graduate>90% of them talk about found times with company>some still hang out (Coco/Choco) (Mel/Aloe) (Chloe/Shion) etc.>Fans are quick to prove misinfo campagin wrong and purposefully misleadingreally make me think you're a dumbass
>>106275098>Fans are quick to prove misinfo campagin wrong and purposefully misleadingAre they? Haven't seen anything (non-retarded) so far.
>>106275201https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRB3A0UZnegMost of you dumbfucks don't even know she had a collab with Festival just within a week, or that she made a song specifically for Miko because how much she likes herhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDJtcmSbyUA&list=RDnDJtcmSbyUA&start_radio=1&pp=ygUWaGFhdG8gcGluayBoYWlyZWQgZ2lybKAHAQ%3D%3D
Vshojo had a very clean rep too. These days, that doesn't count for much.
>>106275390The fuck does that have to do with anything? I said NON retarded.
>>106275433It's also a terrible argument. Haachama has done collabs this year with Hoshikawa and Salome, they were both in her 3D Horrorlive. That doesn't mean somehow she's tight with everybody else at Nijisanji or it's somehow a statement on their actual management.
>>106275390
>>106275582>That doesn't mean somehow she's tight with everybody else at Nijisanji or it's somehow a statement on their actual management.non sequitur>>106276050Do you think the bullying of her started instantly why are you posting something well before her graduation, I posted something of Haato and Festival from right before her spergout which doesn't align with the things she said unmedicated.
>>106276141>which doesn't align with the things she said unmedicatedHow exactly does it not align?
>>106276050>2021actually mentally ill
>>106275390>she made a song specifically for MikoBrown-nosing the clique leader, obviously
>>106275582You know, thinking about that, who actually performed in her 3D Live this year.>Solo>Solo>w/ Raden>w/ Ina, Nerissa>w/ Roboco>Solo>10+ minute live interview (non-Hololive)>w/ Salome (non-Hololive)>w/ Hoshikawa (non-Hololive)>Duet (Haato/Haachama)>Duet (Haato/Haachama)Not to speculate too much, but not exactly pulling out the big guns are they. Especially when they're critical of her growth. Respect to Chammers for her creativity and ability find a way to make it happen with resources outside the company. Of course, she's been there for 7 years. It's kind of curiously low visibility for the JP branch she's part of, right?
The fact is noone knows shit about their internal situation. Not enough to prove or disprove Chama's claims. Common sense and real world experiences make them rather believable for most people:>A corpo fucking over its employees in every concievable way?Nah, can't be...>A group of women (competing for limited resources btw) turns into a snake pit?Never happened before...That's why it got some decent traction, especially on JP side. Holofans, however, prefer to live in a company approved fairytale.
https://x.com/hikotti09041/status/1985289929073873400https://x.com/hikotti09041/status/1985289929073873400https://x.com/hikotti09041/status/1985289929073873400https://x.com/hikotti09041/status/1985289929073873400
>>106270609They went to Fuji-Q. Nene said it on her pokemon stream. But the problem is the idiot you are responding to is just clip fag and only cares about the drama.
>>106270055Interesting how no one wants to entertain this simple fact.
>>106277020Peko is a known numberfag, what's there to entertain? Same with her suddenly becoming friends with graduating girls.
>>106277020You can almost tell who's shitting these threads up
>>106270055Classic numberbunny
Peace be with the ChamaShe was an old friends favorite, and her voice is hella cute
>>106277178>Need a third gen to support her instead of being the more mature person as someone who joins the company way earlier like the rest of gen 1 and 0Come on, even festival isn't this bad. If charmer wants to be a retard and goes downhill she can go downhill alone instead of dragging others with her. Just grad like the rest did
>>106278276What are you even talking about?
>>106264346>She spoke clearly>She wrote perfectlyWhat being mentally ill looks like according to this anon :https://youtu.be/YersIyzsOpc?t=14
>>106278606Chammers was not in a state for most of that stream where normal people would advise a forced intervention. Chat mostly wanted her to go to sleep so she'd feel better the next day. The end of the stream had an awful vibe though. That's the only part where I'd say she didn't really seem in control of herself, and that doesn't relate to basically anything said in the preceding 7 hours.
Chams love!
>>106278276> If charmer wants to be a retard and goes downhill she can go downhill aloneSeems that's more what Hololive wants, anon.
>>106278984Good man.
>>106278788I think it's suspiciously abnormal from the start purely because it was not her usual stream hour
>>106278788i can sound completely normal, happy, and even-tempered while contemplating eating a gun
>>106252405Fucked up family, fucked up company, fucked up country, and fucked up personality.
>>106279349And fans, don't forget the fans
>>106279298People can kill themselves because they're unhappy. It doesn't mean they're irrational about why they're unhappy. To know that? You have to listen.>>106279109>don't trust her because she started streaming at midnightScraping the bottom of the barrel with this one.
