Twitchpocalypse happening now
>>106262991>I botted and hoodwinked Jew Corpos and brandsI'd feel bad but it's Twitch and it needs to die
>>106263016>have to actively face the screen and comment in chat to be heardI hope my oshino stays on youtube now.
>>106263016Lurkers/bots/background tabs/sleepers were never going to buy the products so this is a good thing.
>>106262991Do 3views actually get $300 for 0 effort sponsor slop? I know a lot of 3views who don't get that kind of take regularly from donations. Are sponsors retarded?
>>106263232Yeah, getting 100ccv is a major milestone and what seperates a person doing it as a hobby from someone doing it as a job
>>106263215>being told reality is gaslighting
>>106262991November was the best month for Hololive to invest into a long term partnership with Twitch. The way things are going this new Twitch deal will be a mistake far worse than Holizontal.
>>106262991I offered to pay $15 to promote my game and nobody took my offer, maybe I should try the western vtubers thread...
>>10626346315 dollars total? Because usually it's 15 dollars per x views or whatever
>>106263215I hate that fucking tranny so much, crash and burn more
>>106263286>companies want to pay people with ACTUAL VIEWERS THAT MIGHT BUY A PRODUCT*surprised Pikachu* Why are these morons so stupid?
>>106263904Retarded people and entitlement go hand in hand
>>106262991>MythosIsn't the whole thing about Assmonger's group more than to groom girls is to get people sponsors who pay well?
>>106263873It's a man, anon. How are you having trouble with this?
>>106263463$15 is barely worth the time to read your email and watch your minute long product video for anyone living in a first world country.
>>106263847Total.>>106264404It wasn't limited to 1st world people.
>>106264698Yeah that's retarded, nobody getting more than 50 viewers are going to go for that
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA THE STREAMER ERA IS COMING TO AN END HUMANS ARE SO PATHETIC AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>>106262991>i perform worse so im not getting paid as well>this is twitch's faultwomen always looking for someone else to blame for their mistakes lol
>>106263873Jowol is a biological male who identifies as a male>>106264118Mythic.Mythos is a vtuber agency themed around genderbent Greek gods
>>106264118You're confusing Mythos with Mythic.Mythos is that corpo that paid moist critikal to voice a trailer and did gender swapped gods/goddesses.Mythic is a glorified mailing list.
>>106263181the thing is that all of the metrics are accounting for that, even with lurkers/bots/whatever counted twitch viewers still had much deeper wallets per individual view than viewers on other platform. the same streamer with a viewcount display of 1k instead of 2k after the change will still be responsible the same 100 sell-throughs or whatever. Except with the way twitch fucked the metrics without actually providing proof the actual streamers just have to rely on rumor and hearsay to prove that their audience is the same audience.
>>106265080COPE
>>106264349a man larping as a woman. hence, tranny
>>106264961She is literally saying that she doesn't, Twitch is lying about her viewership. Read again.
>>106265009tranny hands typed this. he uses a female avatar and acts like a man
>>106265322>Twitch is lying about her viewershiphow does she know?
>>106265080lollmao even
>>106263873He’s… not though. He’s a dude, not once has he claimed to be a tranny, doesn’t even act like one
>>106263174literally not enough to be a Tier 3 sub and just have the stream runningthe second that my oshis have decided that they've had enough I'm bolting, fuckin trash ass platform
>>106263873kys chud
>>106265460it doesn't matter, chuds are gonna chudbuy guns please and thank you
>>106263873Milkycuck
>>106265342I don't think you know what a tranny is.>acts like a manHe IS a man. He was BORN a man.He responds to male pronouns, has a male name, self-identifies as a man.His avatar is female.This shouldn't be so difficult to wrap your head around.
>>106265349Correspondence with the sponsors' agents?You can't be this stupid, anon...
So many vtubers I know moved off twitch in the past year
>>106266418Tranny just means effeminate now, amongst other things
>>106263463Kek, who would bother with that. Unless you are going to give them a free game and the game actually aligns with their content then hardly anyone will bother. Some company gave a retro streamer a game code and that's it, but he played the game because the game was in line with the content he does since it is a retro inspired game.
>>106264947Okay lizardman.
>>106266867He's not even effeminate, he's just a regular fuckin' guy
>>106267126*transexual.
>>106264947i wanted to come in here and do this so im right there with you brotherhahahaha
>>106263286you shouldn't be treating streaming as a job as a 3 view
>>106267680who is buying ironlung the bots?
>>106262991Meanwhile Twitch Paid Cover to for a week
>>106266418>His avatar is female.massive AGP red flag
>>106263873He calls himself a man.
>>106267680It's just her chat culture, okay?
>>106267702Connor
I'm not going to namedrop them but a streamer i watch had 130 viewers at best before the change and 110 after it. There are like 5-12 active chatters at most.If they dropped by 50%+ whoever complains either had people leave or someone bot them with multiple tabs.
>>106262991>2 views and literal who's complain about getting less money>twitch is dying
If everyone's views are down, then no one's views are down. I know streamers who don't do subathons/donothons/sponsored streams with 1k+ viewers and they aren't whining about any of this.
>>106267680Does anyone here know what her actual numbers are?
>>106263873Brotuberfag seethe in the replies. They'll defend AGP freaks as long as they pander to them.
>>106262991Hades can’t be for fucking real. Her averages are down because she had a garbage model she used for nearly all of October and the audience for spooky stuff on Twitch was more spread out given everyone was playing horror games. Mythos is also a debuff given there are negative rumors about them given all the graduations this year. People (brands, streamers, as well as viewers) do not want to invest in a streamer who might not even be active under that same IP next year.
>>106262991>Whore complaining that her botted numbers should be valued
The only people whose views should be down are ASMR streamers if all the rumors are true.
>>106262991>outwordlyDeserves to fail
>>106263286>you're just a number to themGoodmorning
>>106262991Some of those streamers are going to need to get a real job again A moment of silence please
>>106262991>Ban terrorist supporter Hasan>Nettenyahu flips bills their waySurely its that easy.
>>106263286Don't include Nice Nature in your trashy fucking career choice drama, you literal tapeworms
>>106262991Is this where Zen and Mousey swoop in and save the indie scene? Where the fuck are they?
damn time to get a real job
>>106262991Just 10 years ago twitch was THE live streaming website and now it is 15%
>>106262991Good, only hobbyists shall remain and all leeches who hopped on vtubing for easy money are moving on.
>>106270665Because YT is always lagging behind and all they do is steal features that have been proven to work.10 years ago was also the E-Sport bubble
>>106263286That's why 100 CCV is /lig/'s minimum requirement
>>106271169That's the smart thing to doThe guy who goes first also steps on all the landmines
Imagine being born a womanYou just exist and simps literally throw money at you for hitting the start stream button.You don't even need to show you real face, you can be a cute perfect anime girl forever.On top of that, you feel entitled to more money by shoving literal ads to your retarded viewers.
>>106270665I didn't know TikTok was that big
>>106263286This only proves to me that a lot of these parasites have never had a real fucking job if they can not get their useless heads around why sponsors are going to target and give money to people with ACTUAL VIEWERS.
>>106265312No? He's always been pretty clear about being a man.Are you okay?
>women are discovering that they might actually have to do the tiniest bit of work to make money instead of having it thrown at themThe world is healing. Slowly.
>>106268875100/200ccv chuubas i watch all have faster chats
>>106262991lol. Whores scared they might have to get a real job after their "work" is finally evaluated for what it is actually worth. God I hope streaming dies and ⅔ of /vt/ kills themselves out of social isolation.
>>106262991>>106263016Seems fair to me.The honest truth is just that vtubers/streamers are, the vast majority of time, simply not entertaining enough to be more than background noise.
>>106271261Not in the States but globally it's basically YouTube for countries that blocked YouTube.
>>106262991Wait you get 300 if you have just 100 viewers average???
>>106262991Wow, the fake numbers don't give out money anymore? That's crazy. If anything it's insane that this bubble has been allowed to exist for this long
Most people aren't going to watch 30 seconds of ads before getting to see a stream. The only people that do are bots. This is one of the reasons why we're seeing bot to viewer ratios of 10 to 1.
>>106270665Shit, hololive's going to do a tiktok partnership soon, aren't they?
>>106273023biboo is already on tiktok, like official account now
>>106273203Thats surprising. Last i heard they ban lolis outright and vtubers for showing thr slightest cleavage.
>>106270665>youtube gaming is almost as big as twitch gaming Lmao dabbed on
>>106263232Yeah? The standard for yt sponsor is 500RAID pays huge fuckton though, IIRC like 2000 or something
>>106262991Ngl that's seriously fucking bad. The Holo girls are made to stream to Twitch now and split their audience right?
>>106263181neither are the regulars who are there for the chuuba
>>106263016the whole lurkers not being counted tale has been debunked.
>>106264947>HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA THE STREAMER ERA IS COMING TO AN END HUMANS ARE SO PATHETIC AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>>106262991No wonder they begged Yagoo
Two more weeks
>>106263181tell me anon, have you ever signed up for NordVPN? HelloFresh? SquareSpace? yes I know, I know... Raid Shadow Legends is the fastest growing mobile game of 2025 with over 1 million active players daily, people are excited to join the fight and experience the new summoning events and get a 2x shard bonus but I would never sign up for that shit.
>>106274428I have picked up video games that a streamer has played on stream.Just not the fucking gacha bullshit ones
>>106267680again this bullshit? During the weekend when the bots were purged everyone viewers. Lily lost half of her viewers meanwhile mouse had her same numbers. I like you ignore the fact that this is 12 hours into a stream, around 4am.
>>106267561you shouldn't be treating streaming as a job period
>>106273267it's literally half, no wonder you're poor, you can't even make elementary school division. lol
>>106262991Twitch doesn't give a fuck about number monkeys.Amazon has bought it like a decade ago and it hasn't been profitable even a single year.All they care about is advertisement money, so they stopped counting people that are inactive for long times, using adblocks, using 3-rd party players as real viewers.Most likely because some top advertisement dude came to twitch and said that advertisers pay them x amount for y amount of views / potential interactions, but the actual stats show that it's way off than twitch represents, and it's because of previously mentioned reasons that makes people that are not actually looking at the screen being counted as monetized viewers.So twitch now only counts people that are most likely actually looking at the screen and seeing the ads as the viewers (aside from subs and twitch turbo). They want to mid max ads revenue/stats and make twitch finally profitable.
>>106275365half of 10.8% is 5.4%, it is obvious from the post that he wants to compare the gaming portions because if we included IRL then youtube is 3 times as large as twitch (at least 3 times as large since vod views will crush twitch vod views)
Imagine actually watching Twitch.
>>106275458shut up poorfag, it literally says 7.8% youtube gaming on his retarded graph
>>106275458Half of 10.8% is -39.2% because you take away 50% from it.10.8% - 50% = -39.2%
>>106262991maybe they shouldnt have botted so hard for so long
Are they talking about organic CCV? Because all of them use bots to a certain degree. So if you want to get a better deal from your sponsors, just buy more bots, it's just that easy lol
This is just normal, in any channel or community 80% of people don't actively engage with the content, 15% engage with it and 5% is the very vocal minority which engages a lot.
>>106276207This is unironically what people were doing, and what made twitch catch on and make this change in the first place.
>>106264947The AI with a turtle is down 85% too though?
>>106264947>HUMANS ARE SO PATHETIC
>>106273371Nah there's something to it. I'm a newer streamer with an average of 30-35 viewers per stream, started in Sept this year. Whenever I run 3 mintues of adds between matches my viewer count rises to 50-65 and once ads finish it drops back down to 30-35 whatever it was before ads played. You and I both know I'm not doubling my audiance for the ad watching experience where I brb/yap until they're done.It really sucks for us smaller streamers.
>>106277421>running ads as a 2viewlmaojust stream on youtube and disable ads
>>106277455>Disable adsYou cannot turn off pre-roll ads unless you run ads. I run them between matches when nothing happens so that pre-rolls are turned off for the next hour.
>>106277421How shitty are you at w/e game you're playing that people would rather watch ads than watch you play?
>>106277455>>106277524Oh wait >stream on youtubeI don't think so SEAmonkey
>>106263016>It's crazy how the advertisers don't want to pay me for the people not watching their advertisements
Neat
