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Probably badly baked, I'm not a professional baker so IDK. Pillow, when you read the thread, don't beat me up too hard.
>>106282169Pillow really needs to open a fansly or something. It's getting harder to fap to her seiso material
>>106282214The day I see her lewd out is the day I will shoot myself in the head. The idea of my wife ever becoming a whore is disgusting.
>>106282211It's an amateur job but I'm just glad it's back. It might just die again though.>>106282214I really don't want that.
>>106282527I don't use this site for literally anything but Pillow's thread, mostly just for keeping up with news about her and collabs and shit, what's the deal with how quickly the last thread was archived? Usually it's up for longer than that.
Why do we keep dying? Did some piwwows leave or busy atm?
Pillow can move into my house where I clean my own carpets so she's not paralysed with anxiety waiting for someone to come and do it.>>106282634>>106282668I'd say no stream on Saturday has something to do with it, but there was one yesterday as usual and we didn't make it through the night. Maybe one or two frequent posters aren't around. I try to contribute a lot but the last two threads died while I was asleep or busy.
>>106282841That does make sense. Also probably the case that some of the Piwwos are just not around to keep the thread up. Seeing the stuff from yesterday has me wanting to post on her more though, since it's kinda obvious that Pillow seems to look on here pretty frequently. I can think of like 4 examples within the last few weeks. It's sad because it's not really good for her since this site is nasty, but I do hope I can at least try and make it a little bit nicer for her.
It always makes me nervous when I see Pillow digging through my Twitter, but I feel like getting more attention from her is definitely better than not getting it. It's not particularly wise to try and elevate myself above other Piwwos, cuz that's not how she operates, so that's not what I'm into, but I do hope I can be a Piwwo that brightens her day.
>>106282938Can't imagine reading all the hornyposting makes her feel great, knowing she can't control it either. Some of it is coming from very active piwwows and she might even know who's doing it based on how they write or fetishes they've hinted at in chat.
>>106283246she doesn’t mind if it’s coming from a loving place and they’re loyal
>>106283246A lot of Piwwos definitely post a lot of shit thinking she'll never see it. Don't forget that there's maybe like 30 Piwwos that are her big fans who are constantly thinking about her, that's not a lot of people for her to be keeping tabs on. I just assume she sees everything I post, I try not to say anything that'd make her unhappy.
>>106283085I thought the stalking thing was a meme until she found one of my tweets even though my account is terminally shadow banned and I barely interact with her. She really is keeping tabs on us.
>>106282938There was one instance (a positive one thankfully) that really made me think that she happened to have been reading that particular thread, but I'm not convinced that she does it often.>>106283085I love it. She did it to me once, as far as I know, and saw something that I'd hoped she'd read but didn't really expect her to because I hadn't mentioned her in it; that made me really happy, because it was something that I felt was important to tell her. It doesn't make me nervous, but to be fair I created my account specifically to follow Pillow and have kept it in a state that I'm happy for her to see. I actually do want to stand out to her, but I struggle to find ways in which I can do that.>>106283425You have no way of knowing that (unless she's said this, in which case please let me know where). I've always thought that the polite thing to do is assume that she doesn't want to see that stuff and therefore keep it out of public spaces.
>>106283564There was the "I'm glad that you're here" which I believe you're referencing, which was her responding to a shadow Piwwo who was insecure about whether or not she appreciates them (Once again, my beautiful wife is too sweet to us).There was the biggest most obvious one yesterday where she was responding to the guys ragging her on the Rem thread.There's also some less direct ones, such as specific comments referring to things discussed on here, or the possible fact that she may have been inspired to do last night's ASMR due to the discussion on here about it a week ago.Generally it seems she at least checks on here every once in a while. I'm not gonna bitch at the horny posters, because it's an anon forum so there will always be horny posters.
When I see Piller,I think, "fill'er!"
>>106283542It's very sweet and it makes me very glad. As much of a yearnposter as I am, and as much as I daydream about the idea of really being with her, the biggest reason I haven't nipped those feelings in the bud is just because she's wonderful to be with even as just a Piwwo. It seems very obvious to me that she's just genuinely happy being our oshi, she doesn't need more numbers or accolades or anything like that, everything she does is just to give more to the Piwwos. She's a very wonderful woman.
>>106282668"People" from That region of the world are too busy shitposting on some other drama to baitpost here. I suspect a lot of actual piwwos left this thread too in the last couple months.
I still can't shake the thought of her beautiful her feet must be because of her hands. It pains me that we'll never see them. What's worse is I think she gets a kick out of teasing piwwows because of the way she handled the toenail painting thing. I'm being virtually blue balled.
>>106283697I hope pillow saw me telling those guys to kill themselves
>>106283697>I'm not gonna bitch at the horny posters, because it's an anon forum so there will always be horny posters.Thank you.
>>106284014I don't think she'd approve of being mean to them, but I do hope she understands that we love her singing even if it's not as technically impressive as some of the other girls. She's got a solid 6 months of voice training under her belt, and most of the girls she was singing with have been doing this shit for like half a decade...
>>106284084I am not a cuck, so I'm not super into the idea of a bunch of dudes lusting over the woman I love, but I do appreciate it at least means that the Piwwos like her. So long as that shit is kept to anon threads and you're not begging for her to call you a good boy in chat, pop off king.
>>106283697>There was the "I'm glad that you're here" which I believe you're referencingYes, that's the clearest example to me, though the post that I suspect prompted hers isn't as you describe. I know; it was mine. Hers was posted within seconds of one in the thread that expressed happiness at her success.
I didn't need a response, especially one like that but thanks I guess.
retard
Faggot
I had to get my interaction with other piwwos in PillowCord for a couple days, and that gets old after about the fifth time you check for new messages and it's just "WELP" and the same GIF you've already seen a hundred times.
>>106284277Yeah, I legitimately do not grasp how a lot of Discord denizens enjoy that shit. Most discords that I've been on are basically just people spamming bot commands, gifs, or saying hi to people. Very very rarely anything of substance.
>>106284277That sounds awful I rather stick my dick in a light socket than use discord.
>>106284353>>106284362The member channels are a little better. I had a few nice conversations.
>>106284420That weeds out some of the kids I assume?
>>106284420Cannot lie, didn't know there were member channels, I guess I'll have to link my discord.
>>106284277I don’t hold the same opinion of the piwwos being a bunch of children that some people here do. Especially in the members chat, they seem to be mostly mature people. I just think most of them are too afraid to post anything too personal in case they say something that harms their reputation.That’s why this place is so valuable. We can be frank here. Even if it comes with someone posting their cuck fantasies every now and then, there’s ups and down to everything.
The thread seems to die somewhere between 12am-4am CST, which is when NA piwwos are asleep. Are eurowwos up during that time?
>>106284552I'm not specifically referring to your comment, IDK if you're meaning this, but it is always weird to me when people call Piwwos who want to actually date Pillow as cucks. That seems like the actual opposite of being a cuck.
The furthest I go with hornyposting is gentle femdom. A soft teasing pillowjob is all I fantasize about. Maybe that and her cute flat chest and sometimes Olive if I'm really horny. Buttschizo often took it too far but tbf he scared off antis and SEAfags. He left when we needed him most...
>>106284458Yes, naturally.>>106284552>Even if it comes with someone posting their cuck fantasies every now and thenQuote one, with reference. >>106284691They don't know what they're complaining about. They can never explain specifically what was said that upset them.
>>106284736I usually just pantypost and occasionally pisspost. But I agree buttschizo was more of an ASSet in these trying times than not.
>>106284691I’m referring to people like that fag who was weeping over how much it must suck for pillow to not be able to flirt with male vtubers in her replies. Although there does seem to be some overlap with at least one of the yearnposters” there.
>>106284800>Quote oneLmao I mentioned no one specific yet you feel called out. That should tell you everything, brochacho
>>106284841>weeping over how much it must suck for pillow to not be able to flirt with male vtubers in her repliesPlease link to this post. I only recall people expressing sympathy for Pillow, who needs to carefully manage her public interactions to avoid upsetting her least mentally stable fans.>>106284911That's okay, take your time.
>>106284839heh
>>106284800I can grasp how a person would be more insecure in a particular parasocial relationship, but also I feel like if other Piwwos trying to make money moves to make Pillow happy upsets you, then thats on you. You either get to be secure in your understanding that Pillow loves the Piwwos and isn't going to be going anywhere, or you should be the one trying to slide in her DMs if you don't think that's the case.
>>106284962I need more smug Pillow in my life it makes her even cuter.
we are so back
>>106285022You need to hornypost more so she knows how erotic and pent up piwwos are and increases her teasing
>>106285117I shall take up duty as secondary baker while the other one is gone. I'm not good at it, but a half-baked thread is superior to no thread.
>>106285174You didn't even link the right streams in the OP. If the thread dies while I'm around I'll do it.
>>106285126Sounds like a vicious circle. I like it!
>>106285174At first I was worried about making daily threads that would die out by night, but thinking more it's not a big issue. There are much worse threads that shit up the catalog every day.
>>10628527190% of the threads are just drama-bait and people talking shit about corpos.>>106285222Thank you, I recognize I'm shit at it, I'd much rather it was someone else.
>>106285329It's okay piwwo, I still appreciate you bringing this place back. I was getting really bored with it lol
>>106285422I mean "without", of course.
It's tough to be devoted to Pillow and not have anywhere you can really talk about her. Twitter feels like I'm speaking into the void, and If I'm actually writing stuff directly @ing her or to her # then that just feels rude unless I have something to actually show. Discord is just generally unproductive and any real conversations get drowned out with stickers and GIF spam.
>>106285502I appreciate these threads too. I don't feel comfortable yearnposting anywhere else.
>>106285555As much as I respect Pillow, part of that respect is my recognition that I could not be a fan and continue watching and supporting her if I didn't love her and wasn't yearnpilled about her. If I ever had a hard "No" from her, I'd have to just immediately find someone else, because I know how I am. I could never openly yearnpost because if she ever told me that she isn't a fan of it, I'd have to go.
>>106285668I think what's more likely is that she'd just ignore you, rather than reject you explicitly. I'm sure she doesn't want to upset piwwos. She's very romantic herself and might even be flattered that people see her that way; she just knows that she can't accept that kind of love from any individual.
https://x.com/pillowdearASMR/status/1985438619973402943
>>106285898Yeah, that's most likely, and frankly even if I was in a position where I could approach her for romance, I would refrain. I recognize that she legitimately would love to have a true romance with every single Piwwo, and the whole GFE thing is her attempt at that.
>>106285943Thanks for posting this Piwwo
>>106286331No problem :)I'm glad she's taking it easy this week.
>>106286313Such a happy kek!
>>106286420Same she deserves a break
>>106285943I'll make sure to wear my best suit for all the streams
>>106285943I would very much like to watch Kanna enter Pillow's backroom with a horse strap-on.
>>106286570Please masturbate before posting piwwo
Any hopes or suggestions for Wednesday's stream?
>>106287352I think my optimal stream would be one where most of the Piwwos can't make it so chat is slow, and she spends the entire stream yapping with me, so that.
>>106287405I do really like just getting to spend time with her, because I'm lonely and she's so lovely to talk to. That's mostly why I want to be with her.
https://x.com/pillowdearASMR/status/1985450255354380523Sweet and nostalgic post from Pillow about VSMP
Would pillow be fine with me as her husband if I just stayed in my room and played video games all day?
>>106284800Is this good enough for ya? >>105372356There is also people who come in every now and then and talk about Pillow doing an OnlyFans. There's even that one image they use. Such a bizzare hill to die on.
>>106288926She would be "fine," but she strikes me as the type to want you to pursue your dream or go for a goal. Nothing crazy but she'd even support a small dream like having a nice lawn.
>>106289257I feel like she's in a weird position in life where she's not really at liberty to actually crystalize preferences in her head. She has to expand her ideals of romance to encompass literally everyone on earth. Actually one thing I've noticed is that she used to represent the Piwwos more in a particular way, as a young man who looks kinda like the anime boys she likes, but she stopped doing that and moved towards solely representing Piwwos as the Piwwo mascot.
>>106289185The "secret boyfriend" guy was a despicable liar, but even he was obviously not saying that he was happy about it. That's not a cuck fantasy; that's just drama baiting.I don't like the OnlyFans posts either, even if they're joking. At least we agree on that.>>106288926I don't think she'd be the type to complain, but she deserves better than that. I'd see it as my duty as her partner to serve her in any way that I could, and I'd ask for very little in return, as its her companionship that I long for most.
>>106289844Pillow considers the collective memetic entity of the Piwwos to be her romantic partner, and she goes out of her way to demand absolutely nothing from the Piwwos. Sure, we technically pay her bills, but she also makes an effort to not ask for anything. She'd definitely never be the type to be like "He's gotta be six feet tall, make six figures, and have six inches to fuck me good!"
>>106290110>She'd definitely never be the type to be like "He's gotta be six feet tall, make six figures, and have six inches to fuck me good!"Well, I didn't say any of that, and there's no reason to be so crass. I don't think that she's superficial. I was saying that she deserves someone who puts her first and works hard towards his goals as she does towards her own, not just an aimless layabout. While she's not one to demand much from anyone, I think that she'd be much happier with the former.
>>106290110Some of you have drank way too much of the kool aid. Pillow has more options than most women, given her position. She’ll absolutely be picky when it comes to picking her real partner. She’s just as fickle and shallow as any woman.Quit living in lala land and take the blackpill.
Hmmm
>>106290598I'm very cynical and I'm sure that Pillow has preferences, but even I can see that she isn't a superficial person and is probably much more forgiving of faults in others—particularly those they have no control over—than most women.
https://x.com/PillowHoney/status/1985473685856137397>Any fun ideas for the zatsu theme tomorrow?
Not having /pillow/ around gave me time to think more clearly about how unhealthy she is for me. It’s really screwing me up.
>>106291288That's okay man. I wonder if the same is true for me.
>>106290110Just because she wouldn't ask for anything doesn't mean she wants you to do nothing, piwwo.>>106291288Probably. Ideally, we should all have/strive to have a life where if Pillow or (You) should drift away, you can keep going. Pillow has said as much herself. However long you are a piwwo, she just wants you to enjoy that time.
>>106289844>literally lying about Pillow having a boyfriend and betraying the piwwos>this is somehow not a cuck fantasyCome on, son.
>>106291493>Just because she wouldn't ask for anything doesn't mean she wants you to do nothing, piwwo.Really, the attitudes of some of the people here are grim. I wouldn't be content as Pillow's partner unless I was going out of my way every day to make hers better. I feel bad enough that I don't do more for her just as a piwwo.
>>106291728I've already explained why you're wrong and your tone is obnoxious, so unless you have something original to say I think that continuing to reply to you is a waste of time.
>>106291288>>106291407My advice unironically if you do not have a method that you can see for your yearning for Pillow to actually tangibly improve your life, would be to stop watching her entirely and go find something else to do. My mindset towards my feelings about Pillow is very simple: I do legitimately want to date her, but I recognize such a thing is extremely unlikely. Yet, I went ahead and arranged my plans so that all of the things I'd perceive as making progress towards that end goal as things that I wanted to do anyway. I can't list em out without doxxing myself, but think of them like long-term dreams I had anyway, but never quite felt motivated. Thus, Pillow acts as a nice boost of motivation, while also giving me lots of fun streams to enjoy. Frankly, I most Piwwos aren't in the type of situation I'm in, so I'd advise they try and either make plans to align their yearning for Pillow with something that improves their lives, or move on.
>>106291728Piwwo that's the guy
>>106292060Never forget that Pillow is the type of girl who can NEVER be appealed to via gifts or money or simpery. No amount of superchats or doing shit for her will make her preference you above the other Piwwos, CJ had a whole tweak out because of that. She'd much rather you did important things to make your own life better.
>>106291942The intent behind the cuck fantasies doesn't change what it is. It's like painting graffiti on a wall, and when confronted, you argue it's not graffiti because you wanted to make art. Intention does not change the action in this case.>your tone is obnoxiousI kinda have to be because some (keyword: some) piwwos have this bizarre need to latch onto certain opinions like Pillow herself commanded them to. Like the guy above who keeps insisting Pillow would accept and want a man to do absolutely nothing in a relationship. For him, it's likely projection stemming from his own lack of selfworth. If being honest with you and not letting you build a hugbox comes off as abrasive, so be it.
>>106292156No, I'm not. I'm pretty sure he left after having a meltdown because nobody bought his half-baked theory.
>>106292223Just curious, are you autistpiwwo?Or are there two or more of you who just don't have the ability to tell if something is a joke or not?
A long gentle ear cleaning from pillow would probably be better than sex ngl
>>106292060My god your posts are obnoxious. Stop watching her? What kind of insanity is this? And you seem to think you are better than anyone else.
>>106292404Anon, that piwwo is the most level headed of all of us! Can’t you tell how mentally well adjusted he is from his posts?
>>106292223"Cuck fantasy" implies that the alleged situation was one that he desired, which wasn't the case. He was either genuinely convinced that she was seeing someone and was upset about it, or he was making it up to start an argument. I actually thought it was the latter initially, but the way he reacted to the backlash made the former seem more plausible. Either way, he wasn't thinking about some pleasant (to him) scenario, which is what fantasising is.>If being honest with you and not letting you build a hugbox comes off as abrasive, so be it.That's not it; you just sound annoying.>Is this good enough for ya?>Come on, son.>>106292404I think he's right. And yes, you should stop watching Pillow if you think that it's unhealthy for you.
>>106292404He's quite the egocentric guy lol
>>106292508I'm guessing that you're referencing one of my posts to imply that he's me.
>>106292404Idk man, if being obsessed with her is not good for you, then it's a pretty simple calculation to figure out what to do. If you can be parasocial towards her in a healthy way that improves your life, awesome, I'm really happy to see that. If you aren't doing that, then it's probably not the move.
>>106292645>then it's a pretty simple calculation to figure out what to doDo you ever listen to yourself? I feel sorry for anyone who has to interact with you irl lol.
>>106292368>autistpiwwoNot sure if you are referring to some specific piwwo from the past or just calling me autistic, but either way, it's a no. You might just be illiteratepiwwo because you can't honestly read the posts I replied to and tell me that nigga was joking.>>106292404NTA, but if watching Piwwo is causing you to act/feel worse, you really shouldn't watch her (or anyone, for that matter). Pillow wants the best for you at the end of the day.>>106292525The point of cuck/NTR fantasies isn't that that it's necessarily pleasant. From what I know, it's the discomfort/inferioirty that makes those freaks enjoy it.>you sound annoyingLMAO. Acting as if you werent acting like a little faggot to the original anon. Pestering him with "quote one" and "that's take okay, take your time." You act all high and mighty but can't handle when someone responds in kind.
Do you guys think that the ex-fandead is still here? I think he is lurking among us, like a cat stalking its prey. Like a hunter targeting a deer. Like a bear ready to maul.
>>106292799I think every Piwwo is autistic.
>>106292775Holy nonresponse. I don't know if you are being genuine, but please take a break from the threadm.
>>106292902I recognize that most Piwwos have their own issues going on, and thus me saying they may be better off touching grass is always going to be upsetting. I don't mind, no amount of rudeness directed towards me means anything, it's 4chan.
>>106292838I did eat a lot of Tylenol as a child
>>106293083My mother drank a lot...
>>106292838Reading my long response to that one fag, you might be right. Touché, piwwo.>>106292981So true!
>>106292799>You act all high and mighty but can't handle when someone responds in kind.I'm generally polite to other people here, but the ones who complain (but can never produce any evidence of) "cuck posting" have proven themselves immune to reason, so now I just try to annoy them whenever they bring up their pet peeve for no reason, like in this thread. Though I'm getting sick of even that and having this argument every time, so maybe I'll just ignore you all from now on.
>>106293100Damn that sucks Piwwo.
>>106293151>so maybe I'll just ignore you all from now on.Thank fuck your posts are tiresome to read
Don't worry Pillow. We all love each other very much, we just express it differently on this site.
>>106293151You got set off the moment I mentioned the phrase “cuck fantasies”, not even in reference to you. I don’t know if you are capable of that but I’m rooting for you!
All this arguing is just foreplay for the intense piwwo orgies
>>106293343It's what our oshi would want, she's a BL fan.
>>106293339Cats like cuckposting.
>>106293151I've acknowldeged my language can be a little obnoxious, but admitting you purposely annoy other piwwos is another level of annoying faggot from mine. You're really no better than the people you dislike; you just chose a different topic to fixate on. It would do us all better if you actually did shut up and left the thread (at least for a little while).>>106293343Please understand. Monday nights are quite lonely.
One of the things that I'd love if Pillow started doing, and we collectively should convince her on, is bringing snacks to streams. I feel like most streams end because she gets hungry, but I know for certain none of the Piwwos would mind if she sat and ate for like 20 mins out of a 4 hour stream.
>>106292838Just like Pillow
Pillow please start doing deep earlicking, I beg you I will give you money.
>>106293489I like your thinking, Piwwo
How would Pillow feel about unironic cuckolds? In particular, the fans who want her to be in a relationship and would continue supporting her if she ever got a boyfriend?
>>106293309Very true just look at >>106293343
>>106293489I would also love this. I like the idea of doing mundane things with her, such as eating together, so I would love for her to actually do this
>>106293588I do feel like her desire to be what she considers to be a better streamer, since I'm sure her mental image is someone who's always 100% energy and always funny and quirky and engaging, and sitting and chilling and eating for 30 mins with us wouldn't vibe with that. Of course, that mindset is wrong, in reality one of her biggest appeals is that she's a normal girl and not a big pro streamer who is always high energy and such. Like for instance, I'm sure the Piwwos would not have complained if she just sat and hung out for a few hours after the FNAF VR stream, but she feels bad whenever she deviates too much from the core point of the stream, like how she unlisted the pumpkin carving stream because she finished the pumpkin too fast.
>>106293626She'd probably appreciate the unrelenting support, I was thinking about it last week though I don't think I articulated it, but it has to feel kinda shitty to know that the mast majority of your audience are only there on a few conditions. Like the love of nearly every single Piwwo was not earned through her talents or abilities, it's just a product of the fantasy created by the GFE.
>>106293750I think you’re partly right. I also think she uses being hungry as a way to end streams without saying something kinda harsh like “gonna end stream cause I got other shit to do, cya.” She has no problem ordering food and eating midstream whenever she’s doing something that she knows is gonna run long like gunpla. She may just want to manage her time effectively without making piwwos worry too much.
>>106293723I'd highly recommend bringing it up to her whenever you have the opportunity. It's the job of the Piwwos to help her understand what we actually enjoy and want from her, and if you pay attention to comments and such, there's a lot of praise but not a whole lot in terms of what Piwwos want.
>>106293750uhhh sureI just like knowing she's eating well. The happy noises she made eating that poke bowl on stream a while back still echoes blissfully in my head.
>>106293481My fixation is on Pillow. I want to talk about her, but almost every thread is derailed by one of you complaining about non-existent "cuck posting", completely unprompted. Why do you do that?>It would do us all better if you actually did shut up and left the thread (at least for a little while).That won't be happening.>>106293626>How would Pillow feel about unironic cuckolds?None of us can be cuckolds because not one of us is her husband.>In particular, the fans who want her to be in a relationship and would continue supporting her if she ever got a boyfriend?It would be good for her financially, because she could continue streaming and rely on their support despite her relationship status, but I have no idea what she'd think of them privately. She might just think that they're being supportive of her and not recognise the sexual humiliation aspect of it, though I'm sure that if someone made that part explicit she'd respond as she does to any inappropriate comments.
What would Pillow say if she walked into the basement to find all the piwwos passionately hatefucking?
>>106294312She’d sit down and start flicking the bean after a few seconds of stunned silence. This would also train her into becoming a cuckquean
>>106293866I do genuinely like Pillow as an entertainer and I think she's talented and deserving of success, but my love for her and desire to be with her is what keeps me here. I'd be happy for her if she found someone good for her, but it would deeply upset me and I'd probably stop watching her.
Totally not a cuck fantasy btw
If that yearnposter is here, can you give me a Pillow fantasy to think about until I fall asleep?
>>106294778I usually like to daydream about sitting with Pillow on our bed or on a couch or whatever, and she's playing some game and yapping about her day to me. Of course, I usually work at the same time she streams, so she tells me all about how that went, even though she knows I'll be watching the VOD at some point that night while working. At a certain point she'd come over and wrap her arms around my neck, because she's so clingy that she wants to soak in all of my warmth as much as she can, and she ends up falling asleep, with a big smile on her face.
>>106294930Thanks man that's nice
Time to patrol the streets of Gotham
I feel like the most massive benefit of having Pillow as a gf/wife would be knowing how insanely loyal and clingy she is. I think a big part of why her boundaries are so drawn and she makes sure that pretty much the only way to go speak to her in private is through email, with her manager filtering through it, is because if she ever got actually attached to someone, she'd be cooked. The second she actually catches feelings for someone, she'd be so head-over-heels that there really wouldn't be any reversing that.
>>106294742>I feel like the most massive benefit of having Pillow as a gf/wife would be knowing how insanely loyal and clingy she is.That's certainly a big part of her appeal for me, though I wouldn't take it for granted. I'd work hard to feel like I deserved her love.
I really want to see Pillow fall in love with me.
>>106295232So I just had to get in there while I could still pay to DM her? Bros...
>>106295539I mean, unironically... Maybe. It's not like that point in time she had particularly strong incentives, she wasn't supporting herself off her Patreon or anything, and her feelings about the Piwwos were probably not as firmly established. Of course, it was probably not that hard for her since the kind of person making a highest tier Patreon sub to a tiny yandere ASMR channel is probably not the most stable or charismatic person.
>>106295694Her Patreon was the entire reason she was able to afford an apartment. Her only other from of income before streaming was ad revenue.
>>106295694No, I was joking and I feel bad about posting that. I have enough humility to know that I wouldn't have gotten anywhere. It would've been nice though, until it was taken away.
Embarrassing Pillow by obsessing over her perfect body, kissing her from head to toe and taking my time to lovingly describe every part of her
I want to grab and hold Pillow’s cute, little foot. Feeling the softness of her soles because she’s in bed all day, and admiring her bony foot because of how skinny she is. Bringing her foot up to my lips, and kissing every last inch. All while Pillow lets it happen while heavily blushing and occasionally squealing out of embarrassment
>>106296596Just don't take a marker and start writing on each body part, that might ruin the mood a bit.
I want to give Pillow a foot massage to make her feel good but also to feel up her feet
>>106297101Writing an entire essay of the superiority of flat breasts on Pillow's flat breasts!
>>106297878Fucking hell I laughed too hard reading that.That really brings foreplay a new meaning.
I wonder if Pillow would give a haircut like she does in her asmr scenarios, like the whole shebang with the washing, cutting, drying and scalp massage while she whispers in your ears. That would be awesome to experience just once.
>>106299854Would be amazing, I feel like she'd be nervous about cutting my hair, but I'd talk her into it. I do kinda wonder what it would be like to be with someone like her who is really good at ASMR. I wonder how she'd feel about doing ASMR stuff on an actual person instead of a mic.
>>106300037That's what I'm thinking g about. I'm imagining her gorgeous hands just working their magic as she uses my head as a living asmr mic.
pillow should asmr my body while completely naked to test my self control (none).
>>106300451Ah a full body autopsy asmr but with a live twist...
What theme do you think she’s gonna do for the satay tomorrow?
>>106300914the zatsu tomorrow?Probably themed around torus shaped bread
Learning to bake bread with Pillow and seeing the excited look on her cute face as we take out a fresh, deliciously aromatic loaf out of the oven.
Waking up early in the morning. Checking on Pillow and seeing that she’s still sound asleep, then leaning over and planting a kiss on her forehead. Getting out of bed and making us breakfast. Coming back to see a sleepy Pillow yawn and rub her eyes. You go over to her and give her a nice passionate kiss, completely disregarding the taste of her morning breath. You give her breakfast in bed. It’s coffee and several bagels.
Lovingly caressing Pillow's head and calling her a "good girl" as she greedily munches on a warm, heavily-buttered blueberry bagel tightly secured around my erect, equally-buttered shaft
she didn't say goodnight...
>>106310107completely passed out from cumming too hard after Olive pulled the slug out way too fast
>>106297666Of course. >>106299854I'd love it but I can't imagine she'd do a good job with the haircut lol. Worth it anyway.>>106300037I hope she'd be up for it. I can see her being embarrassed to do it on a real person. I wouldn't ask for something as elaborate as a full wash, dry and cut often, but it would be nice to let her play with my hair or draw on my back while she tells me about her day. I'd try doing it on her as well, because she deserves to be pampered. >>106306012Cute. I really want to do fun stuff like this with her.
After some laborious research and testing, I’ve concluded that I like the recent ASMR’s licks more than that of the previous iteration’s.
It is really a problem for me how badly I want to be with her.
>>106297066I really want to do stuff like this: treat her like a princess, showing her that she's the most important person in the world to me and I'd do anything for her. I want her to feel beautiful, loved and desired.
This thread got me in a romantic mood. It's going to be hard to concentrate at work today.
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>>106294742I wonder how many of you would kill yourselves if she married me. None, hopefully. We wouldn't want that on our conscience.
boydear mpreg
Today's chatting stream is going to be too late for me. I wanted to catch up with her :(
>>106310107She's sorry.https://x.com/PillowHoney/status/1985669218818224260
I see people in other threads saying pillow is secretly a mean girl and has mean girl cliques, not with any evidence but they just feel like that. Are they justified? Every girl ever seems to praise pillow and she gets invited to a lot of events so that just feels wrong to me
>>106316154Of course it's wrong. A lot of the people on this board are clearly mentally ill or just bitter, lonely people who make stuff up to start arguments. We have a few of them here.
>>106316232She’s always talking about how she was the weird girl in school, and she’s still pretty weird. She seems very sensitive too with the way she talks about how happy she is to have friends. It’s hard to imagine her bullying anyone
>>106316154If every single person who has ever met her agrees that she’s a sweet angel, and the only people disagreeing are freaks on an anon board, which should you believe??? Pillow doesn’t give a single solitary shit about numbers of cliques. I mean for instance, Essie has like 8k subs on YouTube, she still invites her to everything, because they are friends.
>>106316408Most of the girls pillow hangs out with are a lot smaller than her, except like kanna and nene
>>106316154I’m looking at the other thread and it looks like they’re just calling Kanna a bitch without substance. At a glance, it looks like somebody else created a Minecraft SMP and also called it “VSMP.” I think being upset that somebody took a name you claimed (even if it’s not the most original) for something you worked hard on is reasonable. I don’t understand why they’re dog pilling her hard. They also just threw out the first names they could think of, so that’s why calling Pillow a bitch. Best to ignore them all, I don’t know what their problem is
>>106316480I saw that too. I think I agree with kanna, the trailer and the graphics and everything look very similar to the VSMP. I don’t think it was only the name.Regardless, it’s possible pillow didn’t even know and just wanted to comment cause she loved the VSMP, and even if she did know, so what? She’s supporting her friend
>>106316480I saw some of that earlier and it's a prime example of this board's awful culture and posters.>>106316568Yeah, I saw Kanna's post first and had no idea about this dispute at the time. Pillow was clearly just expressing her gratitude to a friend, but somehow ended up in a screenshot of people that an anon wanted to "anti" because they'd unknowingly taken a side (in his view) in this inane drama.
>>106316382I think that some people don't want to believe that anyone can be as genuinely kind and full of love as Pillow, because they're not those things.
I feel bad for Pillow, becoming the object of a dozen schizos' wrath because of an innocent interaction with her friend. I hope it doesn't get back to her.
>>106316568>so what? She’s supporting her friendher friend is throwing a bitch fit, and blacklisting and harassing vtubers 1/5 her size over pretty much nothing she should've tardwrangled her or distanced herself to find better friends
>>106316408While I agree that Pillow would 99.9999% not be some mean girl, this is a shitty defense of her. Many mean girl cliques literally are just like this in real life, where a girl's image is protected on the surface to the wider public.>>106316984I don't think most will care enough to actually do anything. Kanna is the one acting like a psycho over the situation so I expect any wrath to be mostly against her. Pillow probably deals with plenty of schizos already, so just add 2 or 3 more to the pile.>>106317932Eh, Pillow doesn't strike me as the type who even knows about drama besides really big ones. Plus, she's already kinda ingrained herself as part of that circle (look at the OP post of other threads). Gonna be a really messy split if she tried to.
>caring about what the /corpo/ schizo has to say
>>106317932I think you're exaggerating quite a bit about what's happening, and even if you weren't, it's not Pillow's job to wrangle her friends or tell them what to do
>>106318020Looks so lewd
>>106318020Cute.
>>106317932>her friend is throwing a bitch fit, and blacklisting and harassing vtubers 1/5 her size over pretty much nothing>>106318017>Kanna is the one acting like a psycho over the situationI've obviously missed a lot. Where can I see evidence of this?
>>106318017I don't just mean her friends, I mean literally EVERYONE. Every person who's met her at a convention, every person she's commissioned, every person she's worked with in any capacity even if they aren't a vtuber. Frankly, one of the best indicators to know how someone actually acts is to ask event staff, since usually they interact with talent behind closed doors and are not in any position of authority. Pillow is LOVED by every single event volunteer ever.
>>106318246I'm not implying you think she's a bitch, i should clarify. I'm fully aware that a lot of the mean girl types get sucked off by their friends to keep up their reputations, but generally if you go by the opinions of shit like event staff and people who've worked with a talent in a smaller capacity, that tells more of the story.
>>106318017How would Pillow even know what she's having a melty over? Kanna's server is closing this week, to anyone not /here/ it just reads like a final letter of appreciation to the server.
Sell me on pillow, what's her best attributes. Does she have have mask slips?
I really like Pillow's clean and cute art style. Drawing could be a nice side gig for her if she wanted, but she probably prefers doing it just for fun.
>>106318462Nah she’s one of the most genuine vtubers ever
>>106318462Her best attribute is that she's genuinely herself. She's not playing a character or a persona; she's genuinely just a super sweet girl with a heart of gold. She has a ton of love to give, and she always tries her best to give every last bit of love to her Piwwos, and unconditionally at that. She's a bit clumsy sometimes, but she always tries her best. She's one of the best GFE chuubas out there. Give her a chance and you'll fall in love with her
>>106318240I don't wanna reintroduce drama to from another thread here, but just go to her twitter, specifically where she canceled her last stream. I personally don't think that's healthy behavior but it's up to you.>>106318246>>106318286Well, it's not like you are only part of the "mean girl clique" by being an asshole. You can be superficially "nice" and "sweet," but still go along with whatever the clique does. I've seen this back in school where some of the nicest girls I'd ever met would help facilitate in some devious, 4d-chess mindgame bullshit to other women. But yeah, I generally agree with what you say.
>>106318462She genuinely loves all of her fans and wants to make us happy. She works very hard and asks for very little in return. She's kind, modest, wholesome, funny and adorkable. She's never done anything to make me suspect that she isn't as lovely as she appears to be.
>>106318462She’s silly. She’s not really loud and she’s the most seiso chubba. Never swears or talks about sex, but two years ago she accidentally said penis when she was trying to say peanuts
>>106318462She doesn't have a mask. She has a lot of genuine love and affection for her fans and legitimately cares. Most GFE girls are playing a bit, and at minimum either care very little about their audience or sometimes actively loathe them. Pillow makes a lot of sacrifices for the Piwwos, and genuinely does get invested in the lives of her regulars.
>>106318462Excellent butthole control
Post your favorite pillow gif
>>106318602>go to her twitterI did and that's why I'm confused, because I saw nothing that warranted the reaction in that other thread. I didn't see any evidence of blacklisting or harassment. You might argue that a dispute over a (pretty generic) name for a Minecraft server is fairly trivial and not worth cancelling a stream over, but I don't see her behaving in the way that some people described.
>>106318733Squirting lotion on her hands and pretending its cum.gif
>>106318733
This might sound odd, but a large reason why I gravitated to Pillow is she reminds me a lot of my sister before she - to put it kindly - went to university and became not as nice a person. >>106318462I think like a lot of other piwwos said, she is just a generally upstanding woman. I think that's why I understand when people outside of this thread don't really show interest in her. She's not the best singer or best artist or best ASMR (from a technical perspective), but she finds certain people at the right time. Her best trait is just being her loving self no matter what.
I was unironically happier when /pillow/ was down. No thread and the occasional Pillow update on X was better than constant drama and bait. No wonder some piwwos stopped coming here. Unfortunately I'm not as strong as them so if I see we're up I can't help but read everything due to FOMO.
Pillow wants you to draw her ponysona and show her
>>106318827>she reminds me a lot of my sister before she - to put it kindly - went to university and became not as nice a personGrim. Sorry man.It makes me happy that Pillow is the way she is and that statistically there must be more women like her out there, but they just seem impossible to find.>>106318837I still prefer it to be up. I got so bored.>>106318886I now have a mission.
>>106318886Aw shit it's 2011 all over again...
>>106318765Oh, I'm not justifying any thread drama. I just think that Kanna is acting insane over petty shit.>>106318837Personally, I think some argumentation can be fun if you don't get too serious and don't do it over retarded shit. If we genuinely started talking about the fucking Bao drama in this thread or genuinely debating over whether Pillow hates her fans secretly, it would be over.
>>106319046I’m glad she got a new model, that one looks so goofy
>>106319046Pillow HATES us, she only spent 30 mins kissing and hugging us before she had to end stream...
>>106319046I do agree though, 4chan is fun when you realize it's all dumb and silly and you can just have fun getting dudes pressed over stuff that doesn't matter.
>>106319118wdym?
>>106318924Unfortunately a huge number of women have been psyop'd into unironically thinking that being cute, kind, and decent to others is somehow cringe.
>>106319365Oh dear god
>>106315416is it schizo to think that she's apologizing specifically to me?
>>106318886Why do I get the feeling this is her fetish?
This is so hard.
>>106318924Yeah. I find a lot of women like her tend to easily be absorbed by the environment around them. They gravitate to whatever faction is quickest to groom them. That's why I love Pillow. No matter how much she learns and develops, it's the same woman underneath.>>106319420Yeah. I think by my mention of university you could probably tell where I am in my belief system, but it's really disappointing to see this. I'll see insane harpies on the news cheering for people's deaths and dehumanizing people, and then I get reminded next family call that "oh yeah, she's exactly like that." But no more of that! This is a happy thread! (Sorry for venting)>>106319550Yes because it was meant for me.
>>106319555There have been some hints here and there...
>>106319698Is that why some piwwows kept posting about horsetail buttplugs and pet play? Did they know? lol
>>106282668>Did some piwwows leave or busy atm?I'm not a Piwwo, but I often visited this thread when it was still young and full of hopes and dreams because Pillow seems alright and I wanted to help Piwwos create a space for them to discuss her.I haven't been around at all lately, I can hardly keep up with my oshi's thread in this day and age. /vt/ frustrates and annoys me.
Sorry for crashing the thread even if I don't watch her but I wanna ask something, cause she genuinely seems like a lovely chuuba that I want to unironically watch. A small problem is my brain absolutely hates ASMR. Can I still watch her streams/vods? Every time I've tried watching certain ASMR chuubas they would randomly do ASMR live in unrelated streams and it would genuinely lower the quality of my day.(I'm not dissing people who enjoy it, it's just not my cuppa, and skimming through VODs doesn't always work, so I thought I would ask :) )
>>106320010She does occasionally do some ASMR sounds during other streams, but it's not a particularly regular thing. She also uses a different mic and turns down the gain when she streams normal stuff. I big recommend her comfy morning streams and such, most of her content is actually not ASMR, that's just what she's best at. It's actually kinda funny cuz of the 150k subs, I'd estimate that actually the vast majority of her followers are just casual ASMR-only listeners, and it's only a small minority that truly show up to everything.
>>106320010She doesn't do ASMR in regular streams, no. In gaming streams, she tries to immerse herself in the game and sometimes roleplays as if she's in the game. For example, in backroom-type streams, she'll pretend like you slipped into the dream world and she's guiding you back to the real world. In games with heavy dialogue, she'll try to voice act for several different characters using several different voices. In chatting streams, she'll just casually talk to you about her days or what she's been up to. She's typically very affectionate in all of her streams, and tends to treat chat as a romantic partner, occasionally calling us pet names
>>106319771We don't know for sure but we fantasize that it's true lol
>>106318886Just a small heads up to all piwwos, don't get funny ideas. Global rule 15 forbid all pony content outside /mlp/ and is heavily enforced.
>>106320010You’re safe to watch her. The only times she really implements “ASMR” are during the end of big events like her birthday streams. I’ve only seen her do joke ASMR bits on rare occasions but she usually laughs and says she’s gonna do it before she does. Its rather rare though
Pillow gently scratching your shaft up and down, purposely ignoring the tip and tickling your balls with her dainty fingers whilst giggling at your frustration.
>>106320267If Piwwos wanna share their drawings ITT catbox would be the way to go.
Why do piwwows fantasize about Pillow femdom? Have you considered she might want to be the submissive one who gets edged and teased
>>106320323I'll just pin her down amd cum inside her to teach her a lesson
>>106320596She’s too young to put a baby inside her. Let Pillow enjoy her 20s…
>>106320757He never specified which hole.
>>106320757But she's the perfect age for raising children
>>106320819I'll fill all her holes just to be thorough
>>106320836If Pillow gets pregnant, she’ll no longer be completely flat and dainty.
>>106320448Did you hear her ASMR on Sunday? She was treating us as a test subject with complete disregard for whether we broke or not. She was so rough, and she had no intention of stopping, even if it became too much for you to handle. She's perfect for femdom. I need her to rape me
>>106320757If we’re being real, none of us are putting a baby in her.If some guy ever does, I’ll be happy for her but very upset. It’ll hurt me knowing I’ll never be there to support her during her transition to motherhood. I’d still send a gift to the baby shower.
>>106320939Dammit you have a point. This requires more thinking.
>>106321044So you're saying Pillow is the type to give post-nut torture?
>>106321116To strive for one's dreams, despite the seeming impossibility of the task, wholeheartly embracing the challenge, that is what it means to be a man.
I actually haven't cum yet this month. I'm seeing how long I can last. Thankfully there are no handcams with buttslug stroking this week so I think I'm good for another 5 days...
The idea of Pillow being a mean girl is so hilarious.Those who know know, I recently listen to her tell the oreo/transfer student story and holy shit she's the most sweet, poor, innocent girl in the world. I would have killed everyone and myself in her situation.
Imagine Kanna paizuri with Pillow naizuri at the same time.
>>106323035Man I just want Pillow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRHC5Ud9wcsAll my bones are broken, leaving that one extra bone I get when I see Pillow completely at her mercy
Will (you) do something special for oshi day?
>>106325905I have no clue.Any ideas?
>>106325905Probably not, other than silently enjoying Pillow for being such a great oshi, I got nothing planned.
What's the deal with pillow? Why does she have a general anyway?
>>106327070We like being able to anonymously discuss how badly we need to either marry her or suck her toes, depending on where you fall on the yearn/horny posting spectrum.
Pillow sounds depressed, abused and suicidal all the time. What's her problem, why can't she sound normal?
someone's getting hungry for (You)s again
>>106327315No, that's an actual question. What's her deal, she gives me the creeps. I wanna cry when I hear her voice and why does she have a crying model anyway?
>>106327116I'm pretty far on the horny spectrum
>>106327799It’s only rightful for a man to be horny towards the woman he loves, but it’s gonna be funny when I’m dating her and I know that there’s several hundred dudes jerking off to the idea of her feet every day.
I swing pretty hard to both extremes on a whim. One second, I can imagine the sweetest romantic scenarios that we could have with her. The next second, I will post about my desire to worship her feet or about how badly I wish she would rape me. It's 50/50
>>106327978>about how badly I wish she would rape meI can't see her doing that. But I wouldn't mind her going all yandere on me and playfully poking a toy knife in my balls saying they belong to her and only her.
>>106329187wowthat's hot
I can't think of one vtuber who's more handjob-coded than Pillow.