>can't sing>can't speak Japanese>can't do ASMR>no collabs>no friends outside of advent>600k subsShioribros... how long until her graduation?
>>106315595She knows what it's like out there for indies. I think she's happy in her lane. She's parasocial with her chat too.
the moment you kys
>no friendswho's Zeta, Jurard and Flayon
>can’t speak Japanese nor singDeath sentence. I’m not expecting the ENs to be able to do both but being able to either sing or speak jp should be a requirement before entering the company.Fire whoever hired her.
>>106315595Her model will always be the only thing carrying her. also sub to Biboo
>>106315595>Phasefag wants Shiori to join themShe is too good for you
>>106315737It’s actually embarrassing how the rest of Advent are so ahead of her in terms of everything. All of them are doing so much, bijou collabing with literally everyone, even ID and JP members. Lots of JP girls really like her too and it seems like she’s trying really hard to learn Japanese too. Nerissa also is an amazing singer, but she’s learning Japanese too and collabing with so many different members, even collabing with non hololive members. And she already solidified herself with multiple songs over 1mil views. Fuwamoco are like the Messi of idols, they’re literally born for this. Meanwhile Shiori has played Silent Hill F and collabed with Holostars I guess? She’s been here for 2 years and I can’t name a single memorable thing she did. Hell, even some Justice members have done more than her. Shiori’s graduation is inevitable
Man, she really stunted her own growth. I don't think she'll graduate but to think what COULD have been if she never dropped that retarded "respect my collab choices" line on debut AND the sex pest Jurard collab.
>>106315595Thats not an issue, the biggest issue is pushing hard on homo
>>106316007This is why western women should have never gotten into idol culture
>>106315737She actually does know Japanese pretty decently. She just doesn't show it very often, but when they collab with JPs she shows decent enough levels.
>>106315997I can name one memorable thing she did, which was the mass-banning of fans and day 1 members who had the gall to question her decision to begin homocollabing out of nowhere
wrong company
>>106315611>She's parasocial with her chat too.Yeah until you get banned for asking questions regarding homocollabs
>>106315611>he fell for it
>>106315611>She's parasocial with her chat tooI mean, she's really invested in the soft ntr thing she has with them, so you're not wrong.
>>106315997I liked her first-year pumpkin carving steam where her long gloves didn't reach her shirt sleeves.And the Linkin Park guerilla stream when they announced the new singer. And her model's huge fucking tits in 3D debut.
>>106315935We have Sinon now. There’s no room for Shiori. You’ll have to keep her.
>>106316428Then don’t ask stupid fucking questions?
>>106316428>Ban beggarsHoly based
>>106315737Wouldn't this rule prevent biboo, gigi, raora, and cc from ever existing?
>>106316742Yes.
>>106315595KWAB
Did she lose all her audience and beg for forgiveness like everyone said she would?
>>106317008No, she's farming the homo beggers fanbase
>>106315595Unfortunately, this is her retirement home. She most likely wont leave anytime time soon and will milk the money from this for as long as she can. Besides, it gives her a bigger audience to fulfill her NTR fetish, she has no reason to give it up.
>>106317558Tbh I’ve never been a huge fan of her whole Schtick and personality. She kind of just plays “fake mentally ill goth girlfriend” and it doesn’t suit hololive well at all.
>>106315595Whats the point of this thread?
>>106317667To kill some thread on page 10 I suppose
>>106316635Ok S-team keep doing damage control for free>>106316664Other way around she banned fans for asking why she suddenly did a homo collab
>>106315595>no collabs>no friends outside of AdventWhat are you even talking about?Did you forget Zeta?
>>106315595She had a 6 hour long collab with wawa last week. I think they're friends.
>>106315595Shiori has 'friends' like Jurard and Flayon, she'll be fine.
Most misunderstood vtuber
>>106317031And how's that going?
Poor Shiori there are threads about her 24/7, and no one seems to defend her. All because she broke the unicorns’ hearts.
If she's happy with the way things are, that's best.She's not my Oshi and I only see her in collabo with Advent or EN Senpai, so I don't really care about her.
>>106316501I never thought I'd get a hololive girl whose fanbase loves netorase but here we are
>>106315595isn't it really funny how Shiori turned to shit the instant she turned on her regular fans?
>>106321208Your so-called regular fans are deranged incels.
>>106315595>600k subs is somehow low and badAny Indie whore would wish to have such number
>>106315595jesus christ she's still that low? she really did plateau didnt she? those are some ID numbers.
>>106315689whores and homos dont count
>>106315595Why can't Shiori speak Japanese?She's Chinese so it should be a lot easier for her to learn than it is ESLs
>>106321208Just like /b/ she was never good
>>106321291>t. Shiori
>>106315595>even Nerissa has more subs than beejew kek
>>106316428kek this guy is still buttmad over that
>>106315595I didn't know who were you describing until the last line
Why so low? And before you say homos ERB has most subs in her gen
>>106315997I remember when Shori did that one handcam stream and indirectly revealed that she lives in a pest-invested shithole.
>>106317558Yeah, the homocollabing reveal wasn't her trying to stir shit on the way out; it was her getting herself comfortable.
>>106315997Not trying to defend Shiori but Nerissa hasn't been doing shit for a year, look at her hours streamed. she's literally doing the worst in the entire EN branch
>>106322129She's not very entartaining anymore (her short videos before she became a vtuber were kino imo). She's only in hololive to collect her well deserved retirement money as the progenitor of western vtubing.
>>106321686He can’t spam her chat so he has to spam here, I guess
>>106317008>>106317031>>106318442Pretty well I'd argue
>>106321291Trvke
>>106315595>no friends outside of adventwhat about all the homos?
goth pussy
>>106322699They don't really like her
>>106315595I love Shiori and her beautiful green eyes
>>106315595As far as I can tell, she seems content with her career. I guess we'll find out in the coming years if she continues to renew her contract, however many years that keeps her on. I like her streams. She actually plays games beyond the FOTM that interest me.
>>106322699The homos don't really care about her, they want the access they're hoping she can provide to the more popular, better looking girls.
>>106315595Right after Cecilia Immerrunt.
>>106315595I was about to say that I hope she graduates But she's really the rotten apple of advent, she's the worst lmao lolI guess she is having enough
>>106315595> can sing but doesnt> Can't speak Japanese> doesn't do ASMR despite having a mic for it> collabs with no names and inddie whores> no friends> least amount of hours streamed this year among all holoEN> constantly has the lowest cvv in Adventoh wait we weren't talking about Nerissa?
>>106316285Kek they didn't even get banned for questioning her decision to homocollab, they got banned for asking why she hid the homocollab in her schedule
>>106315997>bijouFell for the nijisister psyops again. Fucking retarded holofags
>>106323421don't worry, Twitterbros are going to save her
Now that the rest of Advent lives in Japan she really is the black sheep
>>106323062We thought Ame and Fauna were content with their careers too considering they were miles more successful than Shiori. It'll probably take a few canceled projects to get her to fuck off, her superchats already took a massive hit compared to her first year.
>>106315595That's almost Haachama, f off anon>>106315689It hurts knowing Zeta is an actual whore, no wonder she moved to Japan for dick>>106317558This, there is an audience for ntr content. She is safe, but won't be popular anytime soon
>>106323933Think Cover practices the japanese corporate thing where they stop giving you work and hope you take the hint and leave on your own?
>>106318242Why not the clown homo? Even there, her friends are lame
>bijouSo it's just a Niji deflection thread after all
>>106322129Her contents are pretty niche compared to her genmates, not just about streams, but even community posts.
>>106323933What if she goes the Nimi route? Get a husban, waha as vtuber
>>106324161That would require her getting kicked out of holo and not being entertaining enough to retain viewers as a indie
>>106323979I mean I wouldn't be surprised, it's the least confronting way of firing someone and it's probably what happened to Gura considering they didn't even bother making a playing card of her before she left.
>>106323836Iss great, they can do more offcollabs together and hangout while Shiori sits around at home and goons to her Ai boyfriends while her real boyfriend watches.
>>106315595Shiori is a fake, lying whore… her graduation would be welcome
>>106324161What makes you think she isnt already engaged?
>>106324671you misspelled Nerissa
>>106321065Matsuri still has fans so I don't see why it should come as a surprise.
>>106325132If their is audience for it then there is someone willing to provide a service, and this is what Shiori is doing. She knows her fanbase enjoys it.
>>106322219Nerissa did a huge 3d live and the world tour?
>>106317667Trying to stir shit up because Rissa revealed she moved to Japan.
>>106317667To samefag or echo chamber to direct attention from actual drama I guess, the bait target isn't even on this board to begin with.
>>106325280>3D liveThat was in May, it's November buddy.>World TourOther girls did that and still streamed.
>>106316428>get banned for being a disrespectful faggotit also works in all avenues of life too.
>>106321537She's filipina
>>106325812IRyS has fewer streams than Nerissa, albeit more hours since she does 7 hour streams instead of 2
>>106326041IRyS has one of the highest ccv in EN, way more hours streamed. She also does Karaoke and still releases a shit ton of music, including original songs. The gap between them is so large that it isn't even a fair comparison.
>>106315611I used to think that, then she switched to more fotm slop and became like everyone else in en
>>106321291>incelOpinion discarded.
>>106315595>singing>dancing>speaking japaneseWho cars about any of this? Holodrones really are Disney adults.
There are a bunch of reasons for her hiring, but I am deeply convinced that one of them was that someone needed to be last and it's better for everyone if the girl last on ccv is someone who is ok with it. Bae or Kiara being lowest on ccv? it weights on their mind. Shiori being lowest in ccv? She's used to being a 2views indie and this is her retirement.
>>106327022ok anon, but Nerissa has the lowest ccv these days, not Shiori
>>106327065I found these numbers in ope >>106305332But anyway, no one could anticipate how hard Nerissa would spiral.
>>106326956>react slop>sleeping stream>flesh whoreyou prefer that, twitchfag ?
>>106324603>firing your most popular talentYeah, sure
>>106327123Her stats spiked because of the family karaoke stream with her sister, dad, and brother. That was a one-off. Normally, she has some of the lowest CCV in both solo streams and collabs
I will be honest with you, dumbass faggotsI personally don't like her, but I WON'T condone any actual hate towards her and I WON'T reply to your faggot hateful postsIf you like any of the holo girls, you shouldn't speak ill of any of them1) It gives ammo to actual sea and chink haters (who can fucking ruin the life of your oshi too if you help them with your hatred)2) It just dissolves any comradery between all holo fansBe betterJust shut up if you don't like a holomem. Praise your oshi and don't think about the girl you don't like. Just, like, fuck off and be happy with what your oshi provides to you.If you openly hate someone from hololive - you're a faggot and you don't deserve to have a holo oshi
>>106315595What's in it for Shiori to Graduate, none of you people ever answer that.Why does she have to graduate?Is it because you assume Shiori is obsessed about #s obsessed about Subs and obsessed about being an idol?Fuck, everyone on /vt/ knew the moment she joined that Shiori was treating Hololive as a retirement home. She's got everything she wants now, she gets a steady salary, she has her usual paypigs who'd follow her everywhere. Sure Hololive takes her cut but she's used to that bullshit from Elieen and at least Hololive isn't going to run off to China with the money and leave her running the entire operation alone.She has to take a few Trips to Japan, pretend to care about singing and dancing then she's back to whatever place she crawled out of. She even gets to troll people like you by staying on much to your eternal butthurt about failing to understand why she keeps going.
>>106327255uh oh holodrone melty
>>106327255Theres no actual hololive fans in the catalog anon, they all went to towerThis is just dramafags and small corpo fags that keep creating holo bait threadsThe few holo fans are in the specific splits for each girl (but even some of these splits went to tower)
>>106327445Truth.OP is just some bvtm monkey or phasenig.
>>106327255Based corpo bootlicker and unashamed of it
Shiori won't be graduating unless forced to/is fired. She is lazy but not retarded, she knows she landed great job and will do bare minimum to stay afloat.I don't like her but respect her for being realistic and content with what she has.
>>106327594More likely a nijinigger considering what happened yesterday.
>>106327255Literal cultist they're just streamers bro
>>106327639>>106327779Hating on streamers is literal monkey behaviorNot liking them is fine. Just ignore them. Feeling hatred for anime girl streamers means theres something really wrong with your brain and I feel bad for your parents
>>106315595>no friends outside of adventShe has lots of friends in Holostars.
>>106315595All of those but the last one apply to Nerissa too.
>>106327934just because she allows them to empty their balls inside her doesn't mean they're friend
>>106316428>Until you act like a faggot fucking incel seafag piece of shitWell yeah, I'd ban you too.
>>106327934She doesn't
>>106315595>Fuwa only has 675k subscribers ...>Moco only has 675k subscribers ...
>>106327915Why limit it to only streamers? You feel obligated to defend their honor or anything? They're not your friends and they don't even know you exist as an individual. You just sound like a pathetic white knight simp wasting your time trying to fight their haters for them.
>>106327255>who can fucking ruin the life of your oshi too if you help them with your hatred)dumb>between all holo fansdumb>Be bettertell that to shiorishitty people deserve to be criticized and ostracized. the numbers tell the story.
>>106328136See, this post right here is a prime example of mental illness. I don't give a shit about shiori and I don't watch her, but hating her? For what, did she hurt my family?Hating someone because she doesn't pander to your mentality is, I'll repeat, monkey, chimp, brown behavior I just ignore her and focus on my oshi instead. She's not forcing your oshi to collab with homos
>>106327289What was in it for Ame or Fauna to Graduate? There were no signs of them being unhappy in Hololive yet they still ended up graduating and they were both VASTLY more successful than Shiori ever will be.You never know what can happen that will push you over the edge, only that you can still be unhappy with where you're at even if you're on easy street.
>>106328312>this post right here is a prime example of mental illness
>>106328312Criticism isn't hate
>>106328312If you don't give a shit about her then why are you here defending her as if the people hating her also hurt your fragile little feelings? Just ignore this thread and focus on your oshi instead of sounding like a mentally ill walking contradiction.
>>106328312You can't reason why schizos, they just chimp-outThe monkey-like behavior behavior is ingrained in their beingTheres no reason, only mindless hatred because they know they're powerless and utterly irrelevant
>>106328403NTA but I haven't seen a single piece of actual criticism in this thread, so far it's just been "graduation when" and the usual ESL shitposts.
>>106328312I'll hate whoever I want and shit on them as much as I please, these whores should conform to my ideal and nothing else
>>106328444>I don't give a shit about her>Read an entire thread talking about herKEK what form of schizophrenia is this?
I'm here to watch the monkeys dance
>>106328493I just ended up in this thread because I looked up "Bijou" in the archive to see if I could find any monkeys to reply to with the 3 fingers meme
>>106328563Biboo is a fucking stupid nickname and I refuse to use it on principle. Same as the fucking stupid Candlejack meme.
>>106327255I wasn't in the mood to cause trouble before this post but hmm....
>>106315595Management cucked her by not letting her do much handcam stuff anymore after showing her tits.
>>106316428Kek feelings got hurt he reported a post.
>>106328931Handcam with the boys right?
>>106315595I like her digimon streams
>>106328630Fuck you, Biboo is the cutest of all nicknames and you will be stoned to death.PEBBLES! *stack*
>>106315595I hope she doesnt Luv me digimon and Luv me advent simple as.
>>106326956Twitchfags and indiecucks don’t get opinions
>>106328563A pebble? The real problem here is OP isnt subbed to Biboo, also spread the MVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSZ0iMP80QQ
>>106321367this is 4chan. we'll complain and rage about anything
>>106315689Yes literally, Who are these people?
>>106326778It doesn't make him wrong though
>>106328123It's closer to 1M fuwawa 250k Mococo
>>106323955>It hurts knowing Zeta is an actual whoreQRD? Or is this just seething over her collabs? Her voice is relaxing.
>>106323955>ZetaQrd?
>>106327252Think she would have gotten a boost if they correctly promoted her 3D concert?
>>106331939There is a rrat going around that she dated or is dating one of the homos i think? As I ignore the existence of all non Kaela ID members I can't give you any details, but it is the only zeta related topic i've ever seen discussed here. She might as well not exist otherwise.
>>106331939>>106331942She moved to Japan to fuck Axel.
>>106332281>AxelWho?
>>106332061>I ignore the existence of all non Kaela ID membersThis but Anya and Reine.
>>106318041She stabbed Haachama in the back when she tried to be friends with her, Shiori is incapable of making friends because she is social climber
>>106332281It's time to fold Kobo and Kaela into EN and disband ID.
>>106332351Sneed
>>106332392Kobo is also a repeated homocollaber and Kaela is boring as all fuck.
>>106332281Proof?
>>106315595>no collabsLIAR
>>106332503Why else would she move to Japan? All those covers and orisongs she releases? All that 3D stuff she does? All those projects she's involved with?
>>106332480I don't enjoy Kaela's solo content but I love her collabs with EN (I am a Pebble).
>>106332607>Why else would she move to Japan?Because Indonesia is a SEA Islamic country? Why would you stay there when you can get a Japanese visa?
>>106332503Did you really just ask for proof of a claim on the mongolian basket weaving forum?How new are you?
Shiori made friends with Jurard, he taught her hate marketing, and she thought it was good idea. Clearly it worked, look at this thread and the huge turn out she got during her collab with Jurard and Iofi.
>>106332679You have a point. A proper Islamic country wouldn't let her move in with her fuck buddy before marriage.
>>106315595I honestly think her biggest problem is her voice. Her model is pure sex and during the build up to her debut many were hoping for an asmr friendly gooner bait "mommy" voice. What we got instead was a raspy nasally "quirky girl" voice that would be much better suited to a model like Gigi's. It is frankly a jarring juxtaposition that turned a large percentage of her potential fans off immediately, and it was a rare miss for cover, who are normally excellent at matching voices and models (nerissa, kronii, fauna, biboo, gura, gigi, cici, cali were all excellently cast in my opinion)
>>106327255>2) It just dissolves any comradery between all holo fansComradery was doing just fine until she threw a "BIRCK" at her community, she then sat back playing with her dolls as her mods banned many of her members, and tourists came around making fun of both sides of her community. It got so bad afterwards the shiggers had migrate to a different board.
>>106315595>disgusting fujoLearning about fujos was the worst moment of my life
>>106315595>smugeilene.pngDon't say she didn't warn you
>>106333946Dramafag views don’t count since they never stick around
>>106334455It’s actually worse than this considering she implicitly endorsed the harassment of her dissenting fans by people both already within the fanbase as well as outside of it (remember that “real novelites” tweet she liked?)
>>106333946Do you really think it's a good idea to court the audience of people whose opinions are changed by the algorithm and do not watch streams?
Shiori can be cute sometimes, I enjoy her intense autism about stuff like vrchat 3d worlds, little bits she bakes into some streams, and the light (re: trigger-based) programing she does. She can be silly with some types of games and has some interesting ideas like the confession streams. I don't really like the male collab stuff, but as long as she doesn't bring them up a bunch during a stream, I don't really care and can ignore it for the most part.Her Fujo mentality and unabashed heterosexuallity is actually kind of refreshing instead of just pretending all men are hideous, ugly monsters like 99% of the rest of Holo act, and I like when her and Gigi start making Fujo jokes/comments. Her sarcasm in general is something I can get behind too.
>>106334837She called herself kindhearted as her fans were getting banned and people were shitting on the novelites in the comments. No one who is actually kindhearted calls themselves that in the middle of all that. I am certain she wanted to be malicious.
>>106316007Anon, you can go to the fucking debut VOD and see she never EVER said that line, that was the first phasefag psyop that was successful against shiori
>>106316742It'd also prevent Ame, Fauna, Ina, and Hajime.
>>106335072I don't see a downside.
>>106332355>This but Anya and ReineThis but Risu and Ollie
>>106334958Shiori clearly wanted that audience and she welcomed them...Wtf is wrong with this place. Why was my captcha NTRRX
>>106332607so she can drink the tap water without getting sick
>>106335241too real
>>106332503We don't do proofs here
>>106335072all mid girls. enforcing this rule would be a net positive in the long run but I guess they're too dumb to have that foresight.
>>106335340Wishing for graduations in HoloEN won't save Shitjisanji from imploding
>>106324090> Muh bibooYou think Bae or Kaela are nijiniggers or what, retard?
>>106324592>That would require her getting kicked out of holoWhy are you so retarded? That never stopped Azki or Akirose
>>106315595Shiori's only contribution is her model. Not even her voice, but just how she looks. The fact that such a shitty whore got a top tier quality model like that when anyone else could do better is proof enough that Hololive's hiring director should be fired for wasting such an amazing design.
Shiori just makes me sad, manShe was an acquired taste, but she offered something unique from any other holo and she had dedicated fans who appreciated her for who she wasThen she aggressively threw it all away so she could collab with a professional shitstirrer who only sees her as a tool to create drama and troll Hololive fans
>>106335404no I just want them to not be hired in the first place so we would have higher quality girls in their place that can sing/speak jp
>>106335592she was willing to get on her knees and bend over
>>106315595Ironically enough, Kaela is a better member of Advent than Shiori is since Kaela actually showed up to HoloFES to join Advent's MC segment while Shiori ditched them
>>106321291I am not an incel, but I have the feeling in my gut that she is a horrid person, and she lies all of the time.
>>106321537I thought she is SEA?
>>106335185What does Risu even do anymore?
>>106322129ERB is a good person, but Shiori is fake and disingenuous and flip-flops on things constantly to get attention.
>>106322219Nerissa is better because she can sing and has a pretty solid grounding for what she wants and who she is, whereas Shiori is all over the place
>>106322129ERB was honest and upfront about who and what she is. Shiori rugpulled a dedicated fanbase and fractured it.
>>106322543Having 5k concurrent viewers maximum is pretty abysmal for a Holo
>>106335834Are you the guy who went on a 300 post loop about how she wasn't clear enough on debut?
>>106322717She doesn’t even act goth, it is just the design, unfortunately. Goth chicks are hot
>>106323303Ehhh, I am unsure how to feel about Hololive at this point, I have a few talents I still love, but I would have traded Shiori for Mumei, Gura, and Fauna. Especially Mumei… she is actually perfect (imo)
>>106323733Lying grifting whore
>>106335870That's actually pretty good for part 3 of a JRPG.What is NOT good is getting under 5k on a Karaoke when your only other competition is part 3 of a JRPG
The amount of posts exactly 1 minute apart in this thread is genuinely mindboggling.
>>106325007Both Shiori and Nerissa are fake, I only watch Biboo and occasionally FWMC, but the vibes from those two stink
>>106327132We should expect more than the bare minimum from Hololive…
>>106327255>just shut up if you don’t like a holomemactual cult mentality
>>106334455>>106327255It's camaraderie you brownoid esls
>>106327289>what’s in it for shiori to graduatenothing, but if she leaves, i will be able to watch advent collabs again
>>106336172ay man, no one got time for spell checking nowadays
>>106336236Eye wub ewe spall-chacker.
>>106334621Shiori lies about being a fujo too because she has no integrity, you can’t take it back when you have admitted to buying yaoi doujinshis. If someone buys gay porn they are automatically a fujo
>>106335624Well, clearly you don't mean that since you didn't actually read the post you quoted.
>>106335037People said that too when Finana called herself too nice for trusting Zaion. People who call themselves kind-hearted or child-like are backstabbing narcs. Truly kind people never feel like they are doing enough
>>106335592It’s because Shiori is sucking management off
>>106335622It was just a mask-off moment, she has always been like that, narcissists can only hide their true colors for so long
>>106315595This entire fucking thread exist only because Nintendrones seething hahaha
>>106336448>>106336484>>106336526>seething on cooldownjesus you REALLY are mindbroken kek
Shiori sucks ass
>>106336056Not surprising considering what happened yesterday with the Xandu and Doki collab. Like fucking clockwork.
>>106316428real-life friends will also sometimes tell you to fuck off when you annoy them.
>>106336778I don’t care about Vtubers outside of Hololive, I just hate Shiori and think she is poisoning the well
>>106336553>>106336778>>106336845>>106336860samefag s-team minion
>>106336916>so fucking mindbroken he's even doing friendly fireHOLY KEK
shiori guzzles jurard’s fat dino cock.
>>106336951>teamDoesn’t understand the meaning of the word… kek
>>106337055>samefagNeither do you apparently
I think you guys should kiss
>>106337070The S-team all hail from the same Discord server, so they are samefagging
>>106315595Anyone who legitimately thought she would be good for Hololive should be castrated considering her historyhttps://files.catbox.moe/840hcp.mp4
>>106337099>still doesn't know what samefagging isas expected from a subhuman
>>106335877maybe she wasn't clear enough with all her kisses and love bombing and pre-stream name callouts.
>>106315997I stopped looking at anything related to her since the homo bomb dropped and it's crazy how absolutely about her has changed ever since. All those things you mentioned were an issue before that. Seems it's gotten even worse if anything.Some people are simply hopeless.
>>106337129Someone has never heard of a hive-mind mentality or collective, as expected of a Shiori fan
Shiori really should kill herself
>>106337128Staff-san, probably Henma, was just horny and wanted an easy Twitch whore
>>106337184Man you REALLY get violent when you get called out for samefagging.
I'm just here to get the thread to post limit btw
>>106337240Huh?
>>106337293Bump limit*oh well this typo correction helps kek
>>106327289>She has to take a few Trips to JapanDidn't she skip fes?
>>106337327She went there for about a week before fes actually started, but so far she's gone to Japan 3 times this year.
>>106337327She skip fest
>>106337240Why are they so angry though? The amount of vitriol and faggotry they spew doesn't seem balanced
>>106337327She was never at fes itself, as in she never visited the venue to leave her signature or little doodles on stuff like every other member did. Not to mention there was a few performance of a song that had all of Advent, minus Shiori, with Kaela filling in. Not exactly subtle.
>>106337240>>106337321Why are Shiori fans so delusional…
>>106337428I am one among the many here, but she screwed me over personally irl, so I comment whenever I see a thread like this because I know the truth. I am not an ex or anything, but someone professionally she screwed over…
>>106337428Either some schizos finally got unbanned or they're deflecting from something, I recognize a few posters here based on how they repeat the same posts word for word every time one of these threads pops up and doesn't die at under 100 posts.
>>106337327She did skip FES and had to awkwardly ignore any questions related to FES from supas because Advent performed, but she had no idea how to answer due to not actually being there
>>106337539Everyone who has grievances with her is a schizo, sure…
>>106337439If they weren’t delusional they wouldn’t be Shiori fans
>>106315595I'm just going to add some more because there are a couple of things left out:>no original song>stated she will never do a live other than her 3D debut>has her "friend" write everything even though she's supposed to be the writer of advent>ditched advent at HoloFes>one dimensional "entertainment" revolving around her obsession with the blonde guy she always talks about
The monkeys at the zoo are more fun than the ones here so far
>>106315595Isn't she now the only Justice member who doesn't live in Japan now? It's like she doesn't actually care.
>>106337645She is a pathological liar and uses people endlessly…
>>106337741Raora is the only Justice member living in Japan.
>>106337701Her voice is the only thing she contributes to her membership content. Writing, scripting, animations, editing, that’s ALL done by her friends with little input from her.t. Former member
>>106336448delulu shiorin fans blame the hate on other corpos, when they use other corpos as an example of why she is a sour grape…
>>106337741>>106337758I meant Advent, i a dumb dumb
>>106337240>>106337099that would be a "raid".
>>106315737>>106315611>>106315595>>106337439it was an attempt by Hololive to diversify, they wanted some of the indie/small corpo audience.
>>106337933>>106337940specifics and terminology are just used to distract from some really damning statements, s-team-san
>>106338025stop trying to deflect from your retardation
>>106337847>childlike and kindheartednever trust someone who tells you what they are rather than shows it, the fake crying is quite obvious, too, but it feels like she is trying to prey on an underage audience that wouldn’t know better
>>106337834it is obvious she doesn’t read and can’t write, management just came up with books to put on the debut slide
>>106315595to be fair, the girls dont have to fluent in JP when they get hired. But JP language lesson should be mandatory for any non-JP talent
>>106338135Figures, she never talks about books and “her” writing is poor at best
>>106338135She frequently writes on her community tab, it's really just the members videos that she doesn't write (and even then she does revisions on them)
>>106338383The writing on the community sucks if it even is hers
>>106315595I have literally never seen a particularly outstanding clip of ShioriHer model is fineHer voice is midHer personality is not outstanding, nor are her interests.
>>106338454What CDawgVA said about Holo mems not having to be talented and coasting on brand name alone specifically applies to Shiori Novella, the man predicted the future
>>106315595I like Shiori, but given these traits, and how Myth and Council have turned out, it does look like she's the most likely of Advent to graduate when the costs of staying outweigh the benefits. I don't know how long their contracts are, but that's definitely something she'll consider. For now, it seems she is comfortable, and makes enough to even hire her friends for various projects. I think she's doing fine, and operating at a financial level that meets her personal goals.
>>106338738I think that was coming from a personal grievance when his attempts to do collabs with HoloEN at their peak popularity were ignored. Calli did the Trash Taste Podcast, but I guess that wasn't enough for him.
>>106335979I just stopped watching, and i feel like there are even less clips than before, even when I'm actively searching for them
>>106338827Shiori can never replace MumeiShe kind of fails at everything, including a convincing psycho goth, and not because of her voice
>>106336674yeah, I'd believe she eats ass. I can see it happening
>>106338869Hololive has proven him right…
>>106338383>She frequently writes on her community tabYou really think that’s her?
>>106337503you care to tell your story without dropping names?
>>106339014I'd accept this statement if someone like PewDiePie said this, saying that while he himself is talentless hack is laughable
>>106339237she lies about everything, they should have made her snake-themed instead of whatever she is, or a skunk bc she is stinky
>>106339237She makes it a point to properly credit everyone involved in everything she publishes, this includes writing credits, which she's also very clear on when a community post has not been her writing.
>>106339317And you just assume she’s being 100% truthful in doing this?
>>106337701she has moved on from the dimitri blonde guy fellow she found a new boy to drool overthe friend she has writing her stuff and the writing she does herself rely heavily on AI its like most of her time is spent with her ai chat bots
>>106339427Don't see why not, there'd be no reason to lie about writing a community post when you're already crediting someone else for your members videos.
>>106337741If Nerissa is actually going to live in Japan, then yes, Shiori will be on her own in the States while the rest of Advent are having fun in Japan.
>>106339317you’re in a thread with a bunch of schizos and antis, don’t bring actual facts into this and do yourself a favor and bail. I don’t mind Shiori, I think she is alright and it amazes me how much shit she takes for doing something dozens of other girls in holo do
>>106339503Oh I'm well aware, I'm just trying to get the thread to bump limit at this point so they can argue with themselves until it gets archived.
>>106336070FWMC actually feels the fakest in EN, while ShioRaven zatsus show they’re really genuine
>>106339818of course they are the fakest, they are actual teletubbies for adults. I watch them when I’m in the mood for that and its quite enjoyable but they are one hundred percent kayfabe all the time.
>>106339818They don’t pretend to be anything other than goody anime girls
>>106339301in the few Trash Taste episodes I watched, he was generally the one with the most reasonable take. that's his talent, I guess.
>>106339441depressed nousagi mentioned that there is an art director in hololive named dmitri, maybe she was actually fangirling over him https://www.youtube.com/live/Z8sbRlqZryc?si=-Xxh7jAVEOXy3xvZ
>>106339488she could use chat gpt and have her staff edit it, that would explain the bad writing
>>106339994during the shiori section, people in the chat mention dmitri from fire emblem, and he says there is a hololive staff mem named dmitri
>>106315595she won't because the money is too good and her fetish is to cuck her fans
>>106327255You're literally a zealot
>>106340082Damn, the plot thickens
>>106339994>watching depressed nousagigrim
>>106328336That's the thing, Ame and Fauna (especially Fauna since she's one of the few girls with the self-discipline to stream consistently) could be very successful even after leaving hololive, but Shiori's audience would most likely take a big hit if she graduatedI think she's in it for the long haul unless she gets terminated for something stupid, which is unlikely
>>106328437This post summarizes this entire board, hell, the internet as a whole
>>106341592And you are here with us
>>106341592People only go to hell if they deserve it
Crashing this thread
>>106341592Don’t hide from your sins or wear a nun outfit
>>106340082Woah, wtf…
Down you go
>>106342063Hmmm, I wonder why you are trying so hard to take down this thread when it is revealed that there is someone in Hololive staff named Dmitri… kek
>>106342096I wonder who is feeding her here https://youtu.be/u8qNvw-GZn8
>>106342148lmao Novel-cucks HAhahahah
>1 minute apart
>>106342063Too late, Shiboo is real.
>>106342194>autism
>>106342273Nah, Shiori has made it abundantly clear that she is not interested in women, nice try. Seems like she is cozying up to male Hololive staff members instead
>>106342308Nah
>>106339994>>106340082>>106340655>>106342096>>106342148>>106342185damn… hella grim…
>>106342387biboo is bi, but shiori is hetero
>>106328437you don't have great theory of mind.
>>106342457
>>106342148i wonder if this was actually a real guy…
>>106342503so what, idols yuribait when they are actually straight, and shiorin definitely is 100%
>>106342542I'm not arguing with you, I just think you're retarded and I'm posting Shiboo.
>>106342542If only people knew how much of what she was saying is a complete lie or fake
>>106342405Everyone knows that she is sleeping with management, but this reveals more…
>>106342613>childlike and kindheartedpffft
>>106342574
>still replying to himselfgrim
>>106342148This fake bitch doesnt even like post time skip Dimitri. She likes pre time skip Dimitri. She cant even appreciate character development.
>>106340082ehhh, this is why i don’t get involved with vtubers who attract drama like this, i like a lot of people in hololive, but shiori is not one
>>106342864it’s because she likes a real life dimitri, the fire emblem one is a cover-up
>>106339994>depressed nousagiah yes, Jurard friend that he feeds info to
>>106342864I think that's the saddest part. Shiori can't stand guys who have any semblance of character growth other than "nice happy guy who does everything I say", even to the point where she doesn't like the end result of said character arc for the same character.
>>106315595I would like her more if she was actually herself and genuine, but I read yabs that she copied a Vtuber that she looked up to, because she couldn’t come up with quirky ideas herself. She would wait until she tweeted and then use her ideas for her own content. The rrat said that there was an hour window between them and posted screencaps. It kind of fits with her relying on others to do everything, yet Holos like Cece do most of their own work without stealing.
>>106343041"nice happy guy who does everything I say"Thats true for her chat too. Anyone who provides any criticism gets the boot.
>>106343065As yes, the made up fiance this board loves fantasizing about
>>106343065Suspicious
>>106343065As an old fan from her RM days, she was never obsessed over Dimitri until she got into Hololive, so that's really suspicious.
>>106343196she said it herself in her early streams the Dimitri thing was recent
>>106343065Dang, Depressed Nousagi dropped another bombshell, first the Kiara incident, now this…
>>106343123real enough that she brought him to her family vacation last november and her family thinks he is
>>106343065I hope Cover fires her for this, but I doubt they will
>>106343474Proof? Or is it the HoloEN Director?
>>106343474that doesn’t make it better, holos aren’t supposed to date
This is Shiori’s Dimitrihttps://www.linkedin.com/in/dimitri-hazuki/?locale=en_USThe HoloEN director
>>106343880wow
>>106343196wowow
>>106343595Thats not true. Cover doesnt care what members do in the personal lives as long as doesnt mix with there IP. They made that stance a long time ago with Rushia.
>>106342864She doesn't even like Dimitri, she like the character AI version of it
>>106344139She likes real life supervisor DimitriIt makes sense why she gets preferential treatment now and is the leader of Advent despite not being leader material
>>106341592Fucking S-team
>>106344138But dating a manager? Surely this being public knowledge now will affect their IP
>>106343880YABYABYAB
>>106344430I mean manager as in a higher up, saying she is dating her “director” sounds weird
>>106343880She really is an NTR fetishist
>>106343880Internal Skills:- Team and Project Management- Overall Project Goals and Objective setting- Project Scheduling and Management- Budget Reporting and Cost Control- Work Assignment and Management (especially well-being of team member)- Internal Project Status and Delivery Reporting- Deadline and Delivery Management>- Project Member Recruitment and Onboarding>- Training and mentoring for new recruits
>>106344780He has a rather hands on approach to training
>>106317008her homocollab behaviour absolutely nuked her general threads on here, which previously had some of the friendliest fanbasejust straight up killed all that for no reason
>>106345015Well, they would have been cucked anyway since she is sleeping with her supervisor, Stars collabs are a picnic comparatively
>>106343880no wonder she always gets preferential treatment and didn't have to go to FES
>>106345056aye maybe, but I still miss what we had going before she fucked it up
>>106345326It was all built on lies anyhow
>>106345326she made her fans into cucks
I think I understand the hate for Shiori now. Out of all the girls who genuinely love Hololive and would kill for a spot in the company, they handed a spot to someone who couldn't care any less about the company she's in, couldn't be less motivated to work with the resources at her hand, and couldn't be bothered to actually just maintain a fanbase without drama.People don't hate Shiori herself (maybe some do), but they hate the idea that someone who doesn't care became Shiori. It's ironic since the only people who like Shiori only like the idea (and looks) of Shiori rather than Shiori herself. Take away the model and all that's left is a girl in her own closed world who couldn't give a damn about anything or anyone else because the paycheck is still rolling in to her 9-5 vtuber job.
>>106343880>hired 3/2024that was around the same time Shiori started being more emotionally distant from her fans and less flirty, if this Dimitri guy is responsible for the change of direction in HoloEN, then fuck him. I hope they hire someone more professional
>>106345696That was before he became the Director too, I am sure he had a position before he was promoted
>AIEEE MY THREAD IS DYING I CAN'T BAIT
>>106345754Calm down, S-team
>>106345754about time
Hololive has done some corrupt things…