I’ve been seeing this a lot recently, where the general Japanese otaku fanbase gets outraged whenever a vtuber (mainly from Hololive) is featured in a major collab like this with an anime. More recently there was drama about an older collab with Aqua being featured in an SAO game, and also One Punch Man doing an illustration collab with several Holo members. The issue seems to be that even tho these Hololive members are fans of these series, they are still going beyond the limits of being a fan by getting intertwined with the original work. That’s why members like Iroha or Flare always get apprehensive about expressing themselves regarding their Holo oshis, because they don’t want to cross the line of being a fan and keeping that distance. EN/ID do not have this at all, given how fucking obsessive some of them are over other members like Gigi or Ollie. Looks like Holo “dominance” is starting to thin, and even in their home terf people are fed up with them being everywhere.
Op, you sound like a virgin.Have Sex
>>106628816>More recently there was drama about an older collab with Aqua being featured in an SAO game, and also One Punch Man doing an illustration collab with several Holo members. The issue seems to be that even tho these Hololive members are fans of these series, they are still going beyond the limits of being a fan by getting intertwined with the original work.and then you see the tweets and they almost always are propped up by bot likes, and the perpetrator is almost always a nijisanji fan who whines about how its "destroying" the property as a result. if you're that assblasted over a collab like that then i think the anti is a retard
I will harass a niji fan at any event
Thanks for the insight, nijinigger, but I’m certain they’ll be just fine.
>>106628816too long didn't read plus here luitomo tits
>>106628816How funny that if you actually look at the accounts bitching about it, it’s almost always bots and/or Nijisisters that are seething because their nobody livers never get opportunities like this. Pretty sure they did the same even back during the Aqua SAO collab, where Rion or whatever her name is in Niji, who is also a massive SAO fan, but never had anything like that for the series.
>>106628816Outfit schizo is that you? Are you trying to expand your schizo domain?
>being everywhereJust you fucking wait, it will get even better, and you'll have no option but to embrace it or kill yourself.
>>106628844>>106628873>>10662891417 million views btw, Holocucks just can’t accept that you don’t have to be a Niji/Phase fan to not care about Hololive. Just because someone is an otaku, doesn’t mean they also enjoy vtubers. Anime culture is a niche thing even in Japan, vtubers are a niche within that which are ostracized even within that nerd community. Hence terms like V pigs because even to their fellow otaku, fans of vtubers are seen as fucking pathetic.
>>106628985ironic the "vpig" term is used when all of them are really just asshurt NND users 9/10 times
>>106629016I’d be asshurt too if my hobbies became infested by virtual whores who just leech money off lonely simps
>>106628816yeah wouldnt you get angry if YongYea or ProZD gets VA roles? Same deal with vtuber collabsstill cant believe they let a fucking shitty youtuber play Kiryu in Yakuza, the slop master moistcritical would have made a better job if they had to get a fucking youtuber
>>106628985Culture enjoyed by ALL.HAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>106628816>and also One Punch Man doing an illustration collab with several Holo membersI can understand the outrage about this one. They should have spent the money on improving the anime production quality, not on a Hololive collab.
>>106629063This is pretty much the western equivalent of it, getting streamers to do VA roles and shit. Tho it’s just a common occurrence really in all of modern entertainment, get people who have big followings to do these roles and collabs because these companies want to reach the largest audiences. When all it ends up doing is pissing off the actual fans of these series
>>106628985>niji fanNice butthurt nijinigger.Everyone knows it is nijidrones fanning the flame because they are jealous cucks.
>>106629063thats not even close to what it would be btw
>>106629126That’s pretty much the gist of why fans are pissed off, and with the Code Geass thing with Lui it’s because fans of that see it as her being pushed into being by his side rather than one of the actual characters like CC
>>106629137Again, you are severely overestimating the popularity of vtubers in general. What’s actually the reality here, is that the general otaku community is fed up seeing vtuber shit everywhere, even in their favorite anime series now as collabs
>>106629137It's simple.They're mad because they were replaced. They had a head start, and yet they lost.
>>106629191>What’s actually the reality here, is that the general otaku community is fed up seeing vtuber shit everywhere, even in their favorite anime series now as collabsthe otaku community is pissed because they aren't adapting. they're stuck in the 2008 mentality where if you aren't on NND or these shitty messageboards, you're dirt to them
>>106629322The nnd community is fucking dead, just accept the fact that your Vwhores aren’t universally loved. They are viewed as just fans that are cosplaying anime characters, nobody wants to see them side by side with actual anime characters
>>106628816were they mad about this?
>>106629360you are on the vtuber board nigga
>>106629191Again, you are severely overestimating the hate for Holo. The actual reality is, nijifags like you shout loudly so legitimate haters and trolls can gather to bandwagon. Without nijinigger sisters, the hate level would just be comparable to any collab.
>>106629361Not really, because people already knew that Kojima was a fan of Pehora just like he is obsessive with Hollywood actors and had them be in the games.
>>106629400Vtuber board about a hobby started in Japan that is still dominated in Japan compared to the rest of the world about a drama concerning vtubers
What a retarded thread
>>106629421>muh “niji” cope deflection again
>>106629479Reminder most of these holo antis tend to just be retarded nijisanji faggots who like Inmu or that twink faggot hikakin
>>106629479EOP cope
>>106628816go back to /jp/ nigger
>>106629135It can't be helped. Suits want easy access to an established market and they will soil the integrity of a franchise just to make short term gains.
>>106629615It’s such an artificial growth tho, because vtuber fans never stay with these projects after the initial collab. Like all the shitty mobile games that colllab’d with Holo, because they can’t get the likes of Azur Lane or whatever anymore, all still ended up with no real growth after their Holo collab
>nijinigs pissed that their failed livers can never get collabs on this scale that Hololive gets
>>106629753B-But muh NBA collab that is totally real and true collab and not "pay them to slap an NBA logo on our merch"
>>106630004I thought we all agreed nijien is not a real branch
>>106628816TL;dr Homo beggars mad
>>106628816Even in Japan it's not like the majority of the population are vtuber fans. There's probably plenty of people that just want to enjoy whatever franchise they like without what they see as anime e-celebs inserting themselves into it.
>>106628816Wow japanese fans are vocal about the new collab and they are not happy. Theyre discontented with the way lui's character is going and the whole lelouch. I guess they were holding out hope for a hololive route. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have the collab changed. Obviously that wont happen but it shows how unhappy they are.
>>106628816>Jap fans are madso it's another normal Thursday, huh?
>>106628816They're pissed at anything with a holo collab so why should I take anything they say seriously
>>106628985Dude these people are too far gone. They are absolutely minidbroken like those kpop trannies that see everything as a personal attack against their idols.Subuhman consumerist celeb worship culture.They like you insult people by calling them jeets and "brown" but most of this fandom are spics and SEA's.
>>106628914It's either this, the Miko sushiro collab or Aqua in SAO so hardly the first time they get assmad.
>>106628844I don't like this shit either but I'm not going to seethe 24/7 about it on twitter. Imagine spending every day doing that
>>106628816wow, japanese fans are vocal and they are NOT happy
>>106630251>Dude these people are too far gone. They are absolutely minidbroken like those kpop trannies that see everything as a personal attack against their idols.>Subuhman consumerist celeb worship culture.>They like you insult people by calling them jeets and "brown" but most of this fandom are spics and SEA's.>>106628816>The issue seems to be that even tho these Hololive members are fans of these series, they are still going beyond the limits of being a fan by getting intertwined with the original work.The Japanese Holoantis like calling Japanese Hololive fans jeets and "brown"!?
You guys like Holos right? And they're anime people right? Well then you'd probably also like them collabing with these popular guys who discuss anime right? It's the same logic.
From this thread, I learned /a/ are all nijisanji fans and that's why their stock markets are doing better
>>106630813Here we go again with the "if you don't care for Hololive then you're an anti/Nijisister." That one anon here was right, you people are no worse than kpop stans who think that any slight criticism or angst against your precious idols is heresy
>>106628816Feels like there is some fatigue for not just Hololive but Vtubers in general. I mean seeing this standard company pr performative tweet like this today got me jimmies a lil rustled. Or maybe its just from coming to this shithole too much making me jaded or somethin idk
>>106628833No fuck you! YOU have sex!
>>106630813Think I saw a niji collab from a while ago making the same people mad so they're just vtubing antis.
>>106630251The amount of rw young white men that simp for the ladder climbing whores is hilarious. I always cracked up when lefties would complain about pippa or kirshe farming rw engagment. These tubers help promote white genocide by promoting the abstract idea that you will have the smallest chance to date them. When they need to they are always selling purity, like a shifty used carsalesman.
>>106628985Bwahahahaha based. If you tell holokeks you dont like their oshi they immediately assume you are a phase or niji fan.
>Japanese [anything]>Being mad about anythingGuess it's a day that ends with y.For a culture that espouses conformity and keeping one's head down they're awfully vocal about anything and everything.That doesn't even have to be taken negatively. What interests me is that they see the Vtuber being played as a fan instead of the anime character it is. No kind Otaku, Lui is being played by a girl that is a fan of the work. The girl playing Lui is still keeping her distance. Lui is a corporate entity and an anime character and it is making a collaborative effort with the creators of that anime>but her name is Takamine Rui, not Lui...I'm sassing Japanese pronunciation but I'm not sure if that'll carry over text.
>>106630957It's just the same thing as Homestuck or Undertale fanbases
>>106631290What anime is Lui from?
>>106631290Seeing those fags claim holofags will burn down Sushiro branches over the Miko collab was funny
>>106629075Wait, did they actually just call her nanora lmao
>>106631401Bubblegum Crisis iirc
>>106628816and nijisanji?
>>106629400>MOMMY MY HECKING SAFESPACEWhat a disgusting faggot. ROPE INBOUND
>>106628816if you look closely, most of the subhumans posting those are "vtuber anti's" but they only specifically attack hololive. Really makes ya wonder, huh?
>>106633177The Inazuma Eleven game using vtubers as voice actors got the same criticism and it had Nijisanji, VSPO and streamers. I'm glad I don't give a shit about any of these franchises or I would probably have the same reaction. A vtuber voicing a character, singing an OP or collabing with a franchise in general isn't a selling point, it just screams desperation.
>>106628816>otakulol it's exclusively twitter faggots. Even the matome blogs admit as much and only post twitteroid hot-takes.You don't see actual otaku hangouts like 2ch or the right boards on 5ch get mad about it. Probably because they actually like vtubers on average. Incidentally in related news Downtown+, which the same twitteroid trannies are mad about because Matsumoto Hitoshi won't apologize for fucking some groupie, has hit enough subscribers to earn over 500 million yen a month. They're seething to high hell over that one because it's 5x as much as would have been a success, basically proving no one cares about their feminazi bullshit.
>>106628816I don't see anyone being pissed. I see a faggot writing a wall of text making unfounded and supported assertions.
>>106628816I'm not going to read all of that but even as a fan of some vtubers i can get that for non-vtubers fans it's probably annoying as hell to have whatever popular vtuber (which for them are just e-girls) appearing alongside all your favorite animus.It's kinda crossing the barrier between fiction and reality and you just can't stop paying attention to them because the whole idea of profitabilty for popular vtubers is literally about collabing and appearing in as much places as possible. Their popularity is designed over being inescapable as far as you are into otaku culture there.Anyhow, for this one is just lui, which is like a bottom tier holo lmao.
>>106629063ProZD is an actual professional voice actor, not a random female streamer who happened to win an audition for a streamer/idol company. I don't think it's comparable.
>>106628979cute migochi
>>106628844EOP cope
>>106628816Who the fuck listens to bots online
>>106634232>professionalHe's a youtuber that got adopted into their clique. There's nothing professional about him.
>>106628816Feels like Nijinigs are more assblasted than ever about Hololive winning
Reminder the Enstars fanbase hates Suisei with a fiery passion.
>>106628816normies ruin everythingsimple as
>>106628816>general Japanese otaku fanbaseGo check the ones with the most seethe, I guarantee you they are nijinigger or fan of NND ecelebs aka V anti, the general otaku may not like the collab etc but they don't really seethe about it
>>106628816JIBUN WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSEKAI SAE MO
>>106628816I'm not reading all that but I'm happy for you though. Or sorry that happened.
>>106628833you sound like a redditroon who stepped into the wrong bathroom
IM GLAD 100+ PIGNOYS DIED FROM THE SUPER TSUNAMI HOPE THERE"S MORE IN THE FUTURE
>>106630133AOT's ending caused too much damage to the world.
>>106628816Of course people wouldn’t like when a random nobody gets self inserted in a franchise just to try and squeeze a few bucks out of some people.
>>106628985>Holocucks just can’t accept that you don’t have to be a Niji/Phase fan to not care about HololiveWhy is phase even being mentioned in a discussion about Japan? Hell, why would you even think about them in this situation? Really makes you think
>>106630251As opposed to the people allegedly up in arms because they got a collab they don't like with their favorite anime? Also most of the fandom is not spics and SEA. Most of the shitposts are on the EN side, but the EN fandom is primarily western, as shown by superchats and the sheer amount of complaints about Holo's shipping prices, and the JP fandom is of course Japanese.
>>106628816>luii'd be mad as well
>>106628979i've seen very little seethe over the sushi collab at least, lots of hype over migosushi
>>106628816>general Japanese otaku fanbaseis that what were calling nijisanji watchers these days?
>>106628985You think all 17 million of those are people agreeing with your viewpoint?
>>106638485Neck yourself mintfaggot and dookieshit faggot bots brown seaniggers. You smell of pagpag jeet diarrea and holotrannies. Thanks to Kiara
>>106628872You won't do shit, you little pussy.
>>106628816Thats just regular jap antis that hate vtubers in general. Hololive gets most of the hate because they're popular, but so does Niji
>>106628816>home terfFor your autocorrect to make you type that, you must be frequently typing some pretty deranged shit outside of this post.
>>106628816It's the same as if an IP collabed with My Little Pony or something. Collabing with Hololive always causes an influx of tourists from the most annoying fanbase of all time, and for what? A bunch of streamers that are going to be forgotten when everyone inevitably moves on to the next fad.
>>106640932you okay bro?
>>106630979Why thank you. It was great to enter my natural penis into a woman.>>106635446Whats the matter, OP? Jealous that you never got some?
>>106630561>This shit is EXACTLY 5 years old as of today.
>>106635441Why a soundpost of this was never made? Considering the amount of trash made into one.
>>106628816>japs are mindbroken by the concept of collaborationsWhat kind of goofy ass alternate reality is this?
It's just the twitter algorithm has switch to ragebait and negative trends recently so you see a lot of these negative posts/tweets really easily now which in turn magnify these people even more, not even limited to vtubers only. Like the artists i followed were complaining getting drama shits they don't even browse or care about in their timeline.
>>106630097Sorry Sr, use of rational thinking is not allowed in this place, you will be terminated.
>>106643796EVERYFUCKING TIME
>>106643820Yeah it started around the time Haachama had her melty for me. Pretty sure the same retards seethed hard when Peko unintentionally booted up a hacked pokemon cartridge yet it didn't show up for me
>>106643796Okay that's funny as shit.
>>106628816Thanks for telling us, but how about actually showing it?
>>106630561i hate everyone in this pic.
>>106628816There was also a bit of quiet outrage when Shigure Ui drew Idolmaster characters just recentlyThis may come as a shock, but as there are people in the west who don't like vtubers (see reactions to Holos in Dragons Dogma 2) they also exist on the Japanese side of the communityCode Geass in particular is full of fujos right? What made them think having a Holo collab wouldn't be met with negative reactions from some people? lolIt is what it is, I guess
>>106645079People in the west do not like anythingIt's evident on all forms of social mediaNot exactly an argument
>>106628872rent free, you mindbroken faggot. niji niji niji its all you think about
>>106645678Touche
>>106645737the nijinigger shrieks in horror upon being called out
>>106642652Yes dookishit seanigger dragoon. Go back to >>>/out/ and >>>/pol/
>>106640932NIJISEETHE
>>106646533Like the holocucks
>>106646600See I told you it's a nijinigger
>>106646559yeah you'd like that wouldn't you nijinig?
>>106646609Shut up holotrannie cum eating cuckold
>>106646635>Shut up holotrannie cum eating cuckold
>>106646625Yes go back to >>>/lgbt/
>>106646665Are you a bot
>>106646668Sorry nijinig you have no power here
>>106646705Neck yourself trannie seanigger jannie
>>106646782>Neck yourself trannie seanigger jannie
>>106628816>outraged>it's just a few trolls on twitter
>>106646533you holokeks are deranged. no fan of nijisanji thinks about you, but they're all you think about. its wild.
>>106647682I'm sorry what were you lying about?
>>106628816Because the vtuber fatigue is real
Remember the GBF fest x Hololive incident
>>106633177>but they only specifically attack hololiveNijis also got attacked. I think it's weird to pin this on [Vtuber fanbase] when it's clearly from outsiders
>>106655293funny that sounds just like what a seething nijinigger would say