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>>106672792Has mint seen them naked yet?
>PhoebeFlesh woman begone.
>inb4 nijisisters start seething
Good for them. But if mint stops leeching holo, this is going to flop
>>106672792Mont should really let go of her trauma of Jp corpos.This shit ain't and will not succeed in the west. Her place is with Hololive and the opportunity it gives to people, all she is doing is drying up her womb and make herself Jaggy by the minute
>>106672964But Mint is a perfect character for the woman behind it and it would suck to see her lose it going into holo, which is probably why she hasn't applied yet despite her having friends there.
>>106672792So this is just the promised Vshojo idol girls doing the idol project anyway of their own volition?
Give me the ETA before some drama explodes and it dies
>>106672792Rosemi could have been part of this but decided to be a bitch about returning and lost her chance
>Get rejected by Hololive >Get poached out of Nijisanji >Get effectively laid off due to Vshojo collapsing >Beg another company to hire you so you can play idolMint really has no shame being the corpo town bike
>>106673205yes
>>106673356But she didn't get poached out of Nijisanji, nor did she beg another company to hire her
>>106672792The hierarchy of idol vtubing is about to change.
>>106673478If you mean EN idol vtubing, sure1) HoloEN2) Densetsuand that's it, that's the hierarchy
I came here to meme about indie avenges but then I realized it's just >>106672966. Carry on then, I wish them luck after getting fucked by Gunrun.
>>106673627hey it aint no hegemony no more
https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1989489689565483351Mori approves
Not convinced. Sounds like typical anime slop music that doesn't translate well into English, but worse than the typical.
>>106673627Where is Mint's album? How many original songs does she have? Oh wait.
it's fucking over. she just blew her last chance at holo. what a colossal retard.
>non-zero chance she proceeded with this group outside of the original Vshojo contract out of pityGrim.
>>106673844Phase is below 0.5% of vtubing at this point KWAB sit the fuck down phasetard noone cares about your dead dying corpo
>>106673844>Phase Kek
MINTO DO NOT READ THIS THREAD
>>106673910>increase sample size>hope nobody notices
>phoebe >milkynot rosemidon't care
>>106673356>everyone but Niji loves Mint>Here's how that's bad, actually
>>106673844>phase
>>106674002noone cares about your rosewhore luel
>>106672792The NND style text on the MV is pretty good.Will these idols be unicorn friendly?
>>106673844>How many original songs does she have?so far at least 2-3, with a few more collab originals on the way.
>>106674052an infinite amount more people care about Rosemi than about Milky and Phoebe combined
>>106674001They also count Mari and Clio in talent agencies instead of Phase in the total watch hours
>>106674085
>>106673910Densetsu is 0.005%
So it was phasefags all along. I guess I owe nijisisters an apology
>>106674120this but phase
>>106673729Well that's nice. It'll be nice to see them together if they ever try anything. I'm sure she'll like Vicky.
>>106674229no it's always a nijinigger
I wish them the best.
>>106674229>phasefags shit up /NijiEN/ and falseflag as wisps and dragoons>phasefags shit up /mint/ and /haha/ and falseflag as sistersAlways.
>>106674580thanks
>>106672966not even 250 subs for MilkyQueen...
>>106673860It's so gratifying seeing Holobeggars seethe. Enjoy scraping the bottom of the barrel for EN5.
>>106672792Ok im just gonna be the asshole and say it here, Phoebe ia cute she needs to lose weight bro.>anon you are an assholeSomeone has to say it man
>>1066758141k already actually
>>106675814It was in existence before today.
Wose...where are you.....
>>106673909>Group she pitched and pushed for>out of pityRetard.
>>106676001*not
>>106674039>Getting rejected and then getting laid off means she was loved Mintcuck...
They sounded really good together in Mint's 3D Live.
If you can do idol shit as indie now what is the point of a corpo? this is another nail in corpo vtubings coffin, indie is the future
>>106676150>getting rejectedin 2020 when she had 0 streaming experience>getting laid offwhat are you even talking about? if this is about Vshojo, she never got laid off lol
>>106676188You need to already be established though, that's the thing. Mint only got offered thr chance by Gunrun to do this because of originally being the face of NijiEN and then successfully converting that into support as an indie. Far more difficult to build yourself up entirely as an indie (it is doable though, just far more difficult). Still makes sense for 2views and 3views to seek out corpo life for a bit if things have stagnated.
>>106676231Having to leave because the company imploded is getting laid off
>>106672966I still don't know who this victoria roman is. redpill me on her.
>>106672792>Lazulight 2.0wispfags are something else.
>>106676351It's MilkyQueen
>>106676345vshojo still exists. hasn't even declared bankruptcy, only gunrun has
>>106676505It's in the process of completely not existing. It imploded so Mint "graduated", that's a lay off
>>106676188Women in a group, without contract, do you know how this usually ends
>>106676683>in the processSo it's not yet. And like I said, Vshojo the company hasn't even declared bankruptcy yet, everyone just left at the same time. Can't be laid off if you're leaving before it happens.
>>106672792>VShojo was such a disaster that people are calling the desperate attempt to salvage the VShojo idol group "Lazulight 2.0"
>>106677215it makes nijisisters seethe so I'm all for it
>>106676505only technically, it has no assets or talents
>>106673356Nijiseethe
>>106672792>pinkIT'S ROSEMI
>>106672966DAMMITWhat the fuck is her problemWhy won't she recruit rosemi?
>>106673844Phasecucks feel threatened by an indie group of three girls lmao Can't make this shit up
>>106672792wtf is Kiara doing?
At least this fully kills the "Mint poached Fauna to join Vshojo" rrat.
>>106676345That's literally not what laid off means. Laid off is a very specific term, anon.
>>106676351MilkyQueen. Vsinger that apparently inspired Mori. She's decent but British. >>106676357>thinks a wisp made this threadman they're still seething huh
>>106673844Making music is not the same thing as idols.
>>106672792What's Phoebe's Nationality?
>>106682986>What's Phoebe's Nationality?God I hate /vt/
>>106673910>>106674001The last thing that should be trusted is this stupid site, even fucking redditors finally realized their data is not accurate, for all names here.
>>106682986Filipino
>>106682986
>>106683091>Pinoy and ChinkCrazy.
>>106683091big yikes
>>106672792what the fuck is a lazulight
>>106684180old niji gen that sisters are desperate to reform after Mint left and can't seem to let go of.
>>106672964Unironically my thoughts minus the Hololive part. I don't predict they'll actually gain any traction and the "corp" will be defunct in a year because no one in the west gives a fuck about idols outside of Hololive
>>106676188They have to pay out of pocket for everything, 2/3s of them are irrelevant and won't gain any traction and will have to pay for 3D and Japan tickets
>>106684462Do you know what an underground idol is, anon?
>>106684621Phoebe and Vicky have been doing vtuber idol stuff as 2views for like 5 years, they have no issue affording to pay for things out of pocket
>>106684180>>106684660You stick your penis in it.
>Three corpos and so many stolen wishes later, I've started a new chapter of my fairytale with two wonderful friends>Three corposholy kek
>>106683091Just like Shiori and look how that turned out
>>106686007Over 600k subs and working at the largest company in her field?
>>106676052The group she pitched for exists within Vshojo and the resources they had. This group is Mint carrying people almost 30x smaller than her.
if mint wants to waste time and money because she feels guilty about vshojo, who are we to say no?
>>106676008either EN5 or going to pull a Sasaki
>>106672966God it would funny if Cover employed one of em and broke up the group..
>>106673844Reminder, mint refused to collab with phase after that shitshow of a concert, i hope sakana paid her well and not in shitty coffee.
how and when will this fall apart?
>>106687113When Mint gets accepted into EN5
>>106676380>>106682298Wait, MilkyQueen graduated?, I didn't even notice. What the fuck?!
>>106672792Its going to be like a Vox powerpoint level of a money sink isnt it
>>106672792 I feel like size-wise, a sloppy sisters group would've made more sense. Phoebe and Vicky are fine singers, but they're not nearly as good streamers as Mint is, so I don't know how much of a boost they'll get, if any. Well, as long as Mint has fun, I guess it's fine.
Mint is objectively green.I'm surprised, I thought she was blueish
its funny this thread reads like a bunch of jealous women seething, mad that minto isnt gonna collab with you? gonna cry?
>>106686582NIJISEETHE
>>106672792There's no fucking way Mint is funding this alone by herself. This is going to crash and burn worse than VShojo if she doesn't carefully manage expenses.
>>106687389Anon...
>>106687552Phoebe and Vicky have been self-funding their own Vtuber idol stuff for the past 5 years, so money isn't an issue
>>106686500>The group she pitched for exists within Vshojo and the resources they had. This group is Mint carrying people almost 30x smaller than her.Mint went through Hell in Nijisanji due to horrible management decision so the idea of carrying on their idol group is noble. The unfortunate reality though is that without a corporation a single indie vtuber can't really signal boost smaller vtubers. There are thousands of indie vtubers and without a corporate ecosystem it's hard to get viewers to get attached to a specific indie group.
>>106673844>Phase album out of nowhereOk, you can stop shilling faggot.
>>106688995there are some things that you really only can do in groups though, because to build a brand you need to hone in on one niche. by having a group you essentially reach 3 niches on one channel. just look at hololive, they didn't reach critical mass until at least gen 2, thats already like 6-7 people at that point
>>106672792I know cover is a japanese company and idols are part of jp culture but what exactly are western based idols? The west doesn't really have an idol scene outside hololive en fans who aren't really the same as traditional idolfags. People will mainly care for Mint but I don't know how well this will really take off.
>>106676188It is expensive. It'd be nice if indies could group up in a Hanamori, Weatherplanet or Snapcube fashion, but that's a test of massive trust and pre-established friendship. Good on the ghost if she can make this work though. At least I do want to see the actions that she'll take if worst comes to worst.
>>106675814Didn't Milky get exposed for something recently or am I thinking of someone else? It's hard to keep track of all the drama.
>>106673860I don't think she actually wants to get into Hololive at this point unless she can keep her IP but that's not going to happen anymore.>but what about SuiseiThat was what, seven years ago? Eight? Things were different back then.
>>106689164I would argue that western idols are, as they always have been, based on the greek idea of muses. people who spark inspiration in others, and people who you feel emotions for even if you dont know them in person.The japanese idol is kind of based off the idea of the Idol Journey, where Oshi is like supporting that journey. To incentivise that process of oshi-katsu being more popular in the west, you need to have more of a Cinderella story, rags to riches thing going on, aka the Hero's Journey. And while I would say Japanese Idols are representative of their fans' interests, those interests are fundamentally Japanese. North American Idols should be the same, having fundamentally NA interests. I think the people who got the closest to being "NA Idols" in Hololive were Ame, Mumei, Gura, and Fauna. Ame: Charity, DIY, "ameway" / Broadway, (South)Mumei: Emo, Horror, Hyperfixation style attachment, (North)Gura: T-swift style songs, Early Millennial Style memes, Bipolarism, visual/metaphoric communication, (East)Fauna: Cozy, 2010's early internet, gap moe (cute and sexy), (West)these girls probably added more to western soft power than all of Hollywood for the last 7 years, or at least, from my perspective.The reason why people want the vtubers to become idols is because the previous generation of idols died/retired, and no one came to replace them. There is a vacuum. Will mint and densetsu.exe be able to fill this void? I'm not sure, I think they could be aware of this issue though. Just look at how Mint operated as Pomu, she knows how to get people invested into a meme. The way it's set up is heavily nu-Akiba style chika idol coded (based off my understanding of dearsqn's twitter page), but from just the trailer alone, you can tell that the lyrics arent just random positive stuff, but actual coherent thoughts. Also the music itself I think might be lightly inspired by macross, but my ears are still green when it comes to that sort of thing. Robotech was big in America, you know?
>>106689956I forgot to mention BASEBALL for gura
>>106689628Your probably thinking of the blue haired Milky who was kind of close to Sinder and Bao, Vicky was Milky Queen, pic related.
Inb4 this is the precursor to HoloEN gen5
>>106689956>the music itself I think might be lightly inspired by macrossThe composer is literally the same guy who worked on Macross Delta
>>106672792>all girls who collab with menlol some proper vtubing idols they are
>>106690257HORRRY SHEEEEET, i was just going by the melody man, damn, was not expecting that.
>>106672792Fun fact: All three of these have met Connor aka cdawgva in person and like him a lot
>>106690506>small creator sucks up to cdawgNo way
>>106690574There are about ten thousand vtubers who manage to not do it, not like you're practically forced into wanting the cdawg cock.These girls are just whores like that.
>>106690506when did mint meet him? about to drop her over this if true
>>106690608https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5hCzvm2ofwjust google mint cdawg
>>106690620wow, catalogfags are really desperate to shit on her and pull the smallest nothingburgers known to man.
>>106690683its someone replying to themselves, dont worry about them
>>106690506What does Mori's bf have to do with all of this?
>>106690683Sounds like cope, your slut oshi meets men all the time including cdawg and kanauruShe met the latter for a private dinner twice now, if you support her you cannot be helped
>>106690726dosen't, >>106690506 is just so in love with his dick, its always on thier mind. really makes you think
>>106690786Better on someone's mind than in your oshi. Well, if you're a mintlet I guess you can't say that.
