>Top of the vtuber world>Company makes you shill and drop merch incessantly>They only get 10% of their potential earnings >Vast majority goes too the top 3-4 chuubasLMAOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23i8hwMlApo
>>106813185>Anon can't understand basic mathThese bait threads are just getting worse and worse
>>106813185so its a pyramid scheme?
>>106814994I make a nickel.Boss make a dime.That's why I shit on company time.
>>106813185meanwhile western companies:you guys get paid?
>>106813185Net salary being 10% is still pretty impressive considering how much revenue they generatedYou people can say that they deserve all the money but we all know what would happen to the company when doing that
>>106815296>what would happen to the company when doing thatWon't someone PLEASE think of the executives and shareholders in all this!?
>>106816563The company generates more opportunity to get more sponsorships, connections to artists and musicians, and gives a framework for the larger thing they're doing as individuals, building a brand. That is was the 500 employees who aren't the talents are working on. Trust me, I think the veil of 'Teehee I'm just a girl who needs your support' is gone and it makes it less fun in general, but at this point the ones who really didn't 'vibe' with where we're at in Holo have left.
>>106816563I mean there's a much better example with Vshojo.
>>106816649>y generates more opportunity to get more sponsorships, connections to artists and musicians, and gives a framework for the larger thing they're doing as individuals, building a brandThis is the same argument a Yelp reviewer uses for why they should be given free food or whatever. "I pay in exposure!"
>>106816771I can promise you none of the current talent would have ever gotten a Mc Donalds ad/collaboration without the power of the people sitting at those desks making connections and calls out, going to meetings with other fag corporate people, and making something work.
I knew that clip would be taken out of content quickly, damn, girls really can't even talk about shit without people making it an issue.
>>106816842>not getting ads with a supporter of genocide is a bad thing nowWeird flex but w/e.
>>106813185are we suppose to be mad that they make over 100k dollars and not millions?
>>106816903Ah, you're just a shitposting fag. Should have known.
>>106816934>gets BTFO repeatedly>y-you're just a shitposter!!1!I accept your concession and forgive you.
>>106816903tfym? it's a good thing, no one fucking likes arabs when theyre alive.
>>106816903>supporter of genocideBased I should order more Mcdonalds
>>106817082Okay rabbi.
>>106817162jews are arabs too you mongoloid fuck
>>106816904>are we suppose to be mad that they make over 100k dollars and not millions?No, but saying that Hololive talents only get 5% of the money you spend on generic merch means that Cover is getting the other 95%. That means it's going to the all the middle managers, the hundreds of employees working on HoloEarth, and Holostars. That is why it's a little absurd when unicorns rush to defend management since in their own way they are defending HoloPro unity.
>>106815120Employees get compensated in shares as well. Oh wait wouldn't work for Cover.
>>106818496She never said that, she said she spends about 90% of her cut in business expenses did you even watch the clip?
>>106813185That's absolutely not like that and you gotta be retarded to believe their vtubers only get 10% of the money they make. They would have all left already to make 100% as indies.
>>106818067Jews are whatever boogeyman you hate most at the moment
>>106821608indians are jews?
>>1068131852% , 10% or talent freedom working for free
>>106818666>she spends about 90% of her cut in business expensesThe entrepreneur special.
>>106818666>>106823000Gotta spend that money again
>>106818496Outfitschizo, when was the last time you watched a stream or even a clip?
>>106817148McDonald's ain't even worth it for the meme lately
>>106823054I mean, it works. It's not like they need that much money in their wallets anymore since they've bought all the shit they wanted at this point so might as well reinvest it.
>>106813185Add it to the pile, I guess...
>>106815059more Holos should shit on stream
>>106818907>you gotta be retarded to believe their vtubers only get 10% of the money they make. They would have all left already to make 100% as indiesYeah what a crazy thought, ha ha ha. You'd almost expect double digit graduations or something if that was in fact the case
>>106817148
It's crazy how retarded poor people are that they think rich people are just sitting on piles of unused cash. What rich people have that you do not is the ability to generate money to cover any costs that arise. They don't have millions in their wallet, but they can decide they want something that costs twice your annual salary and get it for "free" while their backend money-generation works to cover the real cost. They don't take on debt or pay interest whereas you would have to if you wanted to buy the same things.>>106824388Are you actually proposing all the graduates were complete retards? Because they have even more costs if they wanted to do the same things, not less. The reason they graduate is because they don't want to do things that more money can afford them and just want enough to fund their work-free lifestyle.
>>106813185>They only get 10% of their potential earningsThat's not what she said, though?
>>106825284>The reason they graduate is because they don't want to do things that more money can afford themWell, that's a new one.
>>106825780NTA, but he wasn't wrong, though. A lot of those "things" also require way more time and efforts while piling on more pressures than just streaming.When people are already rich and successful enough, some simply just want to step back and chill at a more relaxing pace. This is hardly unheard of and not limited to just entertainment / vtubing scene either
>>106818599I have a bridge to sell if you got any spare dosh too my dude
>>106825907The whole point of that clip was that not every Holomem is killing it financially, argue if you want but I'm inclined to think it's more true than not. There's also major issues with sinking your own finances into building an IP you don't even own. Different issue though.
>>106813185>Kanata spent 90% of her income on business expensesSo if you want to get rich as a holo, you shouldn't do any personal side project?
>>106826078Leaving asides whether that is or isn't true since it might vary depends on each member (some might spent more or less on their projects), that wasn't what the other anon was arguing about, though
Does anyone actually watched the clip?
>>106826078>There's also major issues with sinking your own finances into building an IP you don't even own.That's optional, though.
>>106826195Well, there's "optional", and then there's "optional"
>>106826299Well, it's optional. There are members who released a bunch covers and / or original songs and then there are those who barely did any (i.e: Biboo released one original song plus one remix and nothing else this year). MVs could get as expensive as Marine's (estimated to be in the hundreds thousands buck each), or as cheap as one of Bae's cover ($20K). No one is forcing them to spend money on personal side projects. They could've been pure streamer while doing some official projects if they wanted too, just that most of them want to invest money back to grow further
>>106825780Surely you can't be as retarded as you pretend. You are trying to imagine your fantasyland it both ways, you want to pretend that they are richer than ever but also that they want to buy things they could in the past but for some arbitrary reason they just don't even though they really want to.
>>106826766I have no idea how much each talent makes. The whole point of the clip was not to assume that you know something which you don't. Either way, if people leave, they usually have their reasons.
>>106824388So just because some graduated it means it's true? Clearly something in the company changed that made some of them choose to leave and become indie. Which isn't even bad for them considering they keep their whale friends, at least for a while.But tell me why most of the members stay then? Why is Pekora, Miko, Marine, even Noel who makes crazy money outside Hololive, still working there? Hint: it's not for the love of the game.
>>106826095And this is why Fauna retired
>>106815120>>106818599Only in tech companies do people want shares. In other companies, especially with unions, they dont want shares of company because they dont want to work for the growth of the company (and inturn their own shares).
>>106816563The shareholders of cover haven't gotten anything, moron.
>>106826899Didn't you even watch the clip anon. Everyone's got different circumstances. You don't know them all.>so don't generalize too muchChallenge difficulty for /vt/, impossible.
>>106813185>Even YT comments pointed out that there is a difference between revenue and profit / net income and Kanata spent a lot on her personal projects as she said herself in the clip. Different girls might see different amount.>Half of this thread was dumber than YT comment sectionIt's over...
>>106825047and how many of Hololive EN got Mac sponsorships? the ones living in japan don't count.
>>106816903Sister...
>>106826299Fauna released 1 original song and 1 cover in the 5 years she was there.
>>106827516You realize Fauna is not a success story for Cover. Trying to pressure her into putting her own money into projects like MVs while she doesn't even own her IP seems like exactly the kind of thing that would send her out the door.
