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Lewdly raping Pillow!

I wanna make thanksgiving dinner with Pillow and bring her to meet my family so she is less lonely during the holidays. She may have a bad mom, but now she can have a good mother-in-law

>>107047185
That's cool piwwo I don't have a mother anymore so she wouldn't gain a mother-in-law but she would gain a father-in-law though in my case.

>>107047185
That's really nice. I think about bringing her into my family as well. I want her to be surrounded by people who love her, and they would.

Why is your oshi fat in that photo

>>107047723
You're right: I want to do something against Pillow's wishes because I want the absolutely worst for her. I'll go away and repent for this.

When I see Piller,
I wanna fill'er!

>>107048112
apex, valo, and league. as long as she never touches these games i'm happy.

>>107047723
Stop breathing. (You)'re selfishly taking the air that other people could use to enjoy their lives with.

>>107048154
She should play titanfall 2 though

>>107047735
She's not fat it's her gorgeous plumage

>>107047979
>somebody you agree is a selfish and unkind person
Yep, I'm selfish and unkind, and you're not. No need to rub it in.

>>107048596
Maybe you can help me, since you're obviously a better person. How do I stop evilly wanting to marry the woman I love?

Making hand turkeys with Pillow. Drawing around her slender and delicate hand. Her giggles as the pencil brushes against her skin.

Can an edit piwwo remove her feathers in that so it’s just skin

>>107048929
Don't pluck her feathers piwwo :(

>>107048929
Why do you want a plucked oshi?
Only I should be plucking my oshi.

>>107048971
Imagine how cursed it would look. It’s for fun

>>107048994
I am imagining but it's a bit too cursed for me lol

>>107048967
But for her to do those things, she'd have to have a personal relationship with me, and that would hurt you, which she doesn't want, so I'm evil for wanting it. I'm confused. Being a good person is hard. How do you do it?

>>107049560
>The problem with you is and always has been what you said here
Wrong guy

Schizo hours
In /pillow/, it’s just hours

>>107048288
No I'm not making a gotcha or feel the need to argue. I'm just telling you to kill yourself.

Thinking of Pillow’s cute striped panties

>>107051138
Finally a good post

>>107051138
You think the stripes are still visible after years of using the same pack of 6 from walmart?

If Pillow actually means the don't watch other girls thing why does she organize those big events with other vtubers including an ASMR relay of all things?

>>107051865
If she actually means it, maybe she does that to introduce her casual viewers (who aren't committed to her, which she accepts) to other VTubers who she genuinely likes and wants to support.

>>107049560
No I don't think you get it, I enjoy arguing so I can stress you out, so eventually you die of a brain aneurism and I have less people annoying me on my quest to give pillow backshots.

>>107052409
Don't be crass.

Waking up to a large damp dribble patch on your chest after Pillow fell asleep cuddling and laying her head on you, for she wanted to listen to your heartbeat.

>>107052508
Cute

She uses the fucking curseforge launcher…

>>107052687
Well fuck

>>107051525
They would be faint unless she's bleaching them every wash

That post is some insane ramblings I tell ya

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Pillow cute!

Pillow sounded so adorable asking us if we’d wait for her

>>107058291
Saying that like she doesn't always sound adorable

Olive is so cute bros

>>107056859
I agree

I wish Pillow would break into my room and sexually assault me in my sleep

I have a feeling that tomorrow’s ASMR is gonna be another you know what.

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>>107063325
a classic, a cinematic romantic and sexual experience

Olive going shopping and buying condoms for you and Pillow to ensure you never have kids.

>>107065204
Olive returning home too late to see I've already pumped several healthy baby-making payloads into Pillow. Watching Olive wordlessly and expressionlessly go down on Pillow to take care of every single drop.

>>107065204
How would she know what size I need?

>>107067968
Pillow took your measurements to find the closest dildo she can to use whilst you’re at work. Olive has to use it on her.

>>107068073
Hot

>>107067968
Olive has sized me many times with her throat.

>>107068425
So did she shove a ruler in her throat or what?

Olive should start making OnlyFans content since Pillow wont

>>107068846
She would be utterly miserable giving unenthusiastic JOI

>>107069035
Sounds super hot

Pillow being so nervous and stimulated during your first time having sex she accidentally pees on you a little and doesn’t stop apologizing

>>107069689
Me giving a little taste test so she knows it's ok and I don't mind.

How do we convince Pillow to have a photo shoot of her feet?

>>107070111
Convince her that we'll all stop loving her and leave if she doesn't. But that would be horrible, so don't do that.

Olive having to clean your sweaty pissy sticky sheets after hours of you and Pillow physically expressing your love.

>>107070418
Nice can I make her wear a french maid outfit too?

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I'm the fastest piwwo in the west!

This woman is seriously too sweet and kind... it's almost unbelievable something so truly good and pure would exist.

>>107075466
She deserves to be treasured.

>>107075466
She's the kind of person I want to spend the rest of my life with.

>>107076714
Primary reason I even allow myself to be so invested into her is because I could easily imagine how nice of a wife she'd be. Vast, vast majority of women currently just seem like they'd be utterly miserable. Kind, adorable, humble, responsible, loyal, Pillow would definitely be a wonderful wife.

Pillow

She's very locked in today, she's probably gonna doomscroll and ego search a bunch.

Pillow, look at Pokemon emulators or something, don't read the threads.

>>107078044
But I haven't hornyposted that much yet.

I can't wait to sit alone in my bedroom watching Pillow celebrate Thanksgiving, try chatting a few times, then get bored and start doing other stuff while the stream plays in the background and eventually turn it off.

>>107078932
Idk how people have such unfulfilling chatting experiences. I’ve seen people crash out because they don’t get enough attention. At least my experience is that chatting is just as fun if I do it as something on the side or if I just full-focus yap with her. Even outside of streams, if I say something directed at her, she generally always sees and responds. I think the only thing I could wish for more would be her seeing me in a special way comparative to other Piwwos, but that’s not really a fair expectation.

>>107079279
It's not even that; I've had a lot of nice interactions with her and she's even talked about me on stream, so she must remember me. I just haven't been feeling it lately. It's not her fault.

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>>107078044
I'll take her to an empty mall

>>107079279
I've gotten frustrated like once when I was trying way too hard to be read by her.
I just tabbed into a game and had her in the background. After I calmed down a bit and just started chatting more casually she read me but I feel that was more of a pity read lol
If I'm chatting I have to be more engaged with the convo or the game to enjoy chatting otherwise I prefer lurking.

>>107079752
Important to never forget that she is very keen and also reads a lot faster than you think. Unless chat is super fast or she’s locked in on a game, she’s seeing basically everything. She does also make an effort to not mention or respond to the same person too much, because she doesn’t wanna pick favorites.

>>107079807
I really do appreciate that she actively tries not to have favorites because man that was a huge problem with my last oshi.

>>107080090
I can totally see why a vtuber would not restrain themselves like that, it’s easy to be in the mindset of rewarding whoever is most active, as well as just responding to chat without worrying about who you’re responding to. It’s gotta be kinda exhausting to remember all the people as well as make sure you’re weighing up how many responses you give.

>>107080794
I get that but my former oshi is a different story in comparison to Pillow. Night and day difference honestly which is great because I really felt that I never fit in with the rest of their fans.

>>107080090
She doesn't have favorites, usually if anything you get additional mentions from frequent donations (which she dislikes, she feels guilty). The only thing I think is a bit shameful is that I don't have the money to get into her membership chat, a few piwwos mentioned her being very active there and I miss out on that.

>>107082096
>a few piwwos mentioned her being very active there
She isn't really
You'd get more interaction from reply-guying her on twitter.
Also you don't have one dollar?

https://x.com/pillowdearASMR/status/1993815440837968062
Thoughts on her doing ASMR after stream tomorrow? I'll have to miss the second half of ASMR.

>>107082230
I'd prefer it to be a separate stream but I would never be upset with her for taking a day off.

>>107082096
>a few piwwos mentioned her being very active there
She's not. She might've been more active at some point, but nowadays she rarely posts anywhere in the server. You're not missing out on much. The biggest benefit of membership, at least for me, is the members-only streams. And like the other guy said, it's only a dollar a month.

>>107082096
It was mentioned in the previous thread, but she only ever used to be active in discord when the Patreon channel was still up. There used to be very vocal complaints about her activity in the Discord server here in one of the predecessors of /Pillow/ though. Pillow drop in discord activity coincided perfectly with those complaints, and she’s never really been active in the discord since. She used to stream in there, chat for hours, play games with users, there’s even a role for discord streams. It’s been ages since she’s been properly active on discord though

>>107082402
Makes me sad to know she felt pressured to stop with something I'm sure she got a lot of enjoyment out of, as well as helped her socialize more. If I were closer to her, I'd definitely be encouraging her to do what she wants, fuck the complainers. People who try to control what she does and bitch her into doing what they want are not worth listening to.

>>107082402
She should be less active on there if it means her youtube only fans are excluded.

>>107082096
>usually if anything you get additional mentions from frequent donations
Aww crap I really wanted to send her a lot of super chats in December so she get a new drawing tablet but I also don't wanna seem like an attention whore.

>>107082592
It's the reason she closed her patreon, although with it being the christmas period i'm sure you will be fine sending some.

>>107082534
I wish she would adopt this mentality, but she tends to cave in to whatever she believes her fans want, for better or worse

>>107082581
You are the problem. It costs nothing but a minute to create and link an account. You could have more interaction with her, but you choose not to. In return, you punish Pillow and forbid her from doing what she wants to do which is have more interaction and fun with her community because you don’t want to be left out despite voluntarily leaving yourself out

>>107082608
She's also lurking on this thread and gets put off with all of the hornyposters.

>>107082623
Ah I'll just have to be smart and try and time them right. Thank you.

>>107082592
The mentality I’ve adopted with donations is that it should be done because you want to do it and not because you want recognition. Know that Pillow will be hugely thankful for every single last dollar that you donate, believe me, she’s thankful from the bottom of her heart. But if she misses it, doesn’t say your name, or doesn’t read your message out loud for any reason, please don’t lash out at her. Too many people have done that because they expect to receive attention in return for money, and it ends up just being a bad experience for everybody

>>107082647
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with having fewer social platforms, my friend. I only use Twitter and YouTube for Pillow myself.

Has anyone else spent a large amount of money on (or because of) her and regretted it lol

>>107082733
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that, correct, especially if it’s by your own choice. But going out of your way to demand that Pillow doesn’t interact in the platforms you don’t have because you voluntarily choose not you have them, absolute is

>>107082608
She restrains herself a lot, she was talking about it during the QnA, she basically looks herself up and digs through everything related to her every single day. I do think she unfortunately has a tendency to be far, far too kind for her own good. She was talking about it during Cobblemon, she tends to sacrifice to avoid others being unhappy. It's the same as this case, she sees people unhappy and just wants to fix it, so she restricts her behavior. She's a wonderful girl, but fuck, sometimes she's a bit too kind and caring for her own good. In reality, and this is just the hard reality of being a content creator, the fans are ephemeral and will generally not be around forever, if you base your actions off the whims of fans, then you're appealing to people who probably won't even be around in a while, or who would leave to some other decision you make.

>>107082750
The whales who left her did lol

>>107082783
I'm just saying she should make it a bit easier for those who use just youtube as a platform.

>>107082828
My brother in Christ it’s literally one dollar a month, and she’s more active in the free channels anyway. She can’t make it any easier than that

>>107082750
I'm certain there have been previous parasocial Piwwos who burned out from too many brainworms. There's also a small number who have been banned who definitely regret it. Personally, I tend to stick to smaller amounts, since I know that whilst she'd be grateful, she'd probably want me putting my money towards someone who needs it more than her.

>>107082828
How? Youtube doesn't have access for most of the shit she used Discord for. It's a different platform. She does members streams, and does members polls sometimes, that's pretty much the extent of interaction available to her on Youtube.

>>107082750
By saying “anyone else” are you implying you did? Want to talk about it? What happened?

>>107082711
This would be totally because I want to, not for recognition. I know how thankful she is I just don't want anyone getting the wrong idea about it. I'm probably just paranoid for no reason.
And don't worry if she misses my donation I won't freak out or anything, because she doesn't deserve to have someone get bent out of shape at her she's too sweet for me to be mad at her enough to do something like that.

>>107082930
That’s good to hear. I don’t think there’s many (if any at all) who would get jealous over it. I’m personally always happy to see her get more donations since it allows her to do what she wants, and I’m certain the vast majority of her community feels the same

>>107082913
I just got carried away. I don't think it'll turn out to have been worth it. I've not been feeling as intense about her lately so I feel silly looking back on it.

>>107082985
Ok thank you, that's actually reassuring.

It would be nice if she interacted more on Discord, but also I feel like you can't really ask her directly to do that. I wouldn't, at least.

>>107083061
It's depressing how isolated she is. She can't interact with most people in a relaxed way since every tweet or comment gets schizo'd over. She has a few IRL friends, but besides Olive, most of them live far away (She also did mention at one point a while ago that she cut off a lot of her old friend group because they were not very good to her so she has like maybe 3 non-vtuber friends currently). She does have vtuber friends, but she's even mentioned on stream how difficult it is to make the schedules align. The Piwwos are basically all she has, and I'm sure that her getting those interactions had to help a lot. Frankly, I'd presuppose that the actual reason why some retards were bitching about her interacting with people wasn't that it was members only, but insecurity over the idea of her making actual friends and connecting in a decent way with people. I'm not insecure enough to expect her playing Helldivers with some Piwwos to result in her leaving us forever or whatever, that'd be retarded.

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Pan searing a prime rib eye steak for Pillow

>>107083259
Yeah, directly stating something like that wouldn't go well. She'd likely say something like
"Oh, but I already do interact on here?"
Because frankly there's no good response to it from her end. My hope would be that maybe she reads the thread and realizes that the Piwwos care about her and want her to be able to do what she wants to do, instead of worrying about some brainworm-laiden schitzos who will find something else to be upset about anyway.

>>107083281
Ive seen that a lot, but Pillow is worth it so I don't have that fear and if there comes a time for me to go I will leave quietly and disappear.

>>107083413
I couldn't really imagine anything that Pillow would do to make me not see her as my oshi, and especially not resent her. It'd have to be something insanely, wildly uncharacteristic for that to ever happen.

>>107083281
>I've donated 5 digits in total to her
Over how long?
This is what I'm afraid of becoming and why I'm so embarrassed to have spent what I have (which is an order of magnitude less than you).

>>107083282
Well she insists that it's the life she wants and people here call you evil if you think it doesn't seem ideal.

>>107083496
To add to this, we somewhat recently had somebody completely fucking seething about Pillow “playing games and having secret calls with her mods and top donors.” Literally all completely made up, not even close to true at all and anybody could disprove it with one glance at the server. People will just appear and try to ruin a good thing and it’s always so disgusting

>>107083466
Same here, she's very genuine and loving so I don't really think there's a scenario that would make me leave unless I did something really wrong.

>>107083497
Nah man, there's no need to get into the yearn/cuck war again. What I was referring to was more just, ya know, friends. She gets lots and lots of love from Piwwos, but there's also something to be said about her having people she can actually spend time with. A billion compliments don't do as much as a single person you can tell your problems to, your real problems.As earnest and open as she is, she still is an idol and vtuber and cannot be totally open with Piwwos.

>>107083546
That level of retarded schitzo shit is very disgraceful to me, cuz like, so what if it was fucking true? Oh no, oh god, oh man, what the fuck, she played Mario Kart with the mods? Clearly she wants to suck their cocks! Clearly she'll never stream again because she's pregnant with their kids! Like seriously, what do people expect?

>>107083689
Honestly, it probably should be brought up more, because as she's said, Piwwos are her everything. She enjoyed the Twitter Spaces, but frankly I think those are also kinda dangerous for her, for instance, if Olive were to say her actual name at some point because she doesn't know Pillow has Spaces open. She likes to spend time with Piwwos, but without Discord she probably doesn't have many outlets. Unlisted streams are similar, but Discord just had more flexibility for her.

Pillow needs a husband who loves her unconditionally so she doesn't have to depend on the fickle love of notoriously unstable VTuber fans.

>>107083812
shut the fuck up man

>>107083785
>if Olive were to say her actual name at some point because she doesn't know Pillow has Spaces open
I'd never considered that.

>>107083812
Don't worry Piwwo, I'll take wonderful care of my wife. You guys don't have to go anywhere, though I'm sure her marriage announcement will make most of you disappear.

>>107083892
She did mute up whenever she was walking around, but I did distinctly remember her getting spooked by Olive at one point because she thought she wasn't around. Now imagine if Olive had called out to her? Sure, just a first name isn't a crazy dox, but it'd be way more than Pillow is comfortable with.

>>107083933
You'll find your own wife one day Piwwo, I'm sure she will be just as lovely and kind as my beloved Pillow

>>107083933
Grow up.

>>107083929
A first name would do a lot for my fantasies.

>>107084186
Alright man

Well now I do hope Pillow isn't here because she wouldn't like you dipshits fighting over nothing

>>107084140
As much as I love her, she is not a fully matured girl, and she still has a lot to learn. Probably the biggest part of that, and one of the more important ones, is that as much as she never wants to make people unhappy and wants to see the best in every Piwwo, frankly not all people are of the same quality. There are plenty of people, particularly when you have such a parasocial audience, who are perpetually miserable, and will always find some shit to bitch about because they’re unhappy with just about everything. Some people are not worth even trying to please, and an important part of being an idol, a content creator, a celebrity, is realizing that you can’t please everyone.

>>107084264
She's reading over my shoulder, I'm telling her not to worry about what the schitzos are saying and to get back to playing her game.

>>107084264
I'm not fighting.

>>107084479
As Pillow herself would say, no point getting down over it, tomorrow is a new day. If it's eating you up, you could always email her about it or something. Could always use a throwaway email so you're anonymous. She'll probably read through here, so:

I hope she understands that we love her, we care about her, and we are 1000% okay with her doing whatever she wants to do on whatever platform. If she goes to Discord more, then we'll spend time with her there. If she simply doesnt feel like it, then that's okay too. We just want her to know that we really value our time with her and don't want random anons making her feel like she needs to be limited.

Making Pillow a cup of hot chocolate with whipped cream and marshmallows. Watching her take a sip and get a bit of cream on her nose. She wipes it off with her finger and holds it up to your mouth.

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Cleaning up Gotham!

>>107084966
Aww that is top cute

You said goodnight to Pillow, right?

I enjoy our long DMs in discord. I know it's wrong and not fair to the other piwwos, but I also know she really needs this.

Plowing Olive's ass in prone bone position while she's reading a book, as Pillow watches on and masturbates

I want to care for Pillow so badly.

Shondo recently posted her feet to great acclaim. Pillow needs to step-up and show her who the real feet and hand queen of EN is.

It's like she knows when she's losing me and pulls me back in.

>>107086838
Thanks.

>>107087315
I'm always asleep by the time she says goodnight.

>>107092831
Me too. I wish I was close to her so I could do more, but I have to just do what I can as a piwwo.

By the way, I can say from personal experience that Pillow is happy to see you supporting other VTubers and ASMRtists. The "don't watch other girls" thing is mostly a joke, though she does want to be your favourite.

>>107095545
She wouldn't do events and collabs if she wanted to monopolize us. Granted, I do think she feels particularly strongly about ASMR, but I think that's unironically just an emotional thing since she gets so invested into the ASMR that the idea of some other girl taking care of her darling hurts her. She also doesn't like oshi whores, she wants to be your favorite.

>>107095492
Even if it's not me, I care about her too much to want her to never have many people close to her that she can rely on. I want to be someone special to her, but above anything else, I want her to be open to others and not isolating herself for the sake of people's brainworms.

>>107095627
It makes me very sad that she never knew her father and is on bad terms with her mother, especially on days like this. I'd be much happier if she at least had an IRL social life. I'll be in chat later trying to make today nice for her.

How does she feel towards casual viewers? I feel like she’s so full-on with the parasocials because she’s like it herself, that it alienates fans who don’t oshi her but still like to tune-in and support her when we can. I guess I lean more that way. I like Pillow a lot for the reasons you all say but I just don’t have the time nor energy to devote myself fully because of work and my personal situation. I watch other vtubers and ASMR artists and don’t want some random woman on the internet I’m never going to meet make me feel bad for consuming content made by others. I get it if that behavior is specifically targeted towards piwwows with her oshi mark. I feel like I’m valued significantly less just because she’s not my everything.

>>107095861
She loves and cares about her casuals, and she doesn’t think any less of casual viewers. She’s always here for you, and she never ever wants to demand more from people than they can give.

>>107095754
It’s easy for parasocials (myself included) to get lost in the sauce of wanting to monopolize her time, attention, and love. At the same time, most of us are more blessed than she is when it comes to our social lives. Even if you’re the most crusty stone cold truecel of all time, you usually still have family.

>>107095861
Don't overthink it. She's happy to have you in any capacity.

>>107096188
I do often wonder how she feels about different types of viewers. Like she has a small core group of people who show up to everything, a little bit larger who are still active Piwwos just not crazy, and then she has a really large ASMR-only casual audience. Any time I rewatch an ASMR I was attending, it feels a lot like she is speaking directly to me (particularly since there’s quite a few times where she IS because I stay up way past my bedtime for her ASMRs), but the ones I wasn’t around for I try to view as roleplay.

>>107096522
Did you not see "from personal experience"? My opinion is based on things that Pillow has done.

>>107096522
She's said a million times that she's fine with Piwwos seeing other girls, as long as they remember who their wife is. Was only a few days ago she was raiding her stream into another girls stream so Piwwos could see the Peak event from her perspective.

>>107096628
I was wondering about that, have there been any times when she's gotten genuinely pressed on stream, or even off stream? I can't think of any controversies or anything related to her.

>>107096722
There have probably been times when she was genuinely bothered by something, but I can't imagine her ever letting it show.

>>107096882
>Or that time she cried saying she doesn't want us to cheat on her during dog island.
nta but do you have the timestamp for that? I haven't found the time to watch through that whole stream.

>>107096882
Look, I don't think you should expose people's Twitter likes, but I want to make this point: Pillow liked two of my replies to other ASMRtists (neither of which mentioned her, one of whom is a tiny account that she doesn't follow, so she must've been going through my posts). To me that says she's happy that I'm supporting other creators. You could argue that she only did it to let me know that she saw and make me feel bad, but I wouldn't buy it. Do you think she's that kind of person?

>>107097106
It's always nice when Pillow goes through and likes random posts. In a way, it's a bit nerve-wracking, I do end up deleting a bunch of comments that could potentially make her unhappy.

>>107097213
Idk about that, she liked one of my tweets about Shondo, when she was in the hospital. Granted, I think my situation is a bit different since a solid 2/3 of my interactions on twitter are yapping about my oshi and telling people how great Pillow is. I try to make it abundantly clear that I only have eyes for her.

>>107097213
I'm not like that guy. I have her oshi mark, the vast majority of my posts are to or about her, and I only casually follow a few other VTubers, who I don't interact with or feel about in the same way. If she knew which posts here are mine, she'd know I care very deeply for her exclusively. If it really bothers her that I enjoy other people's ASMR, I'm a little disappointed, because I think she's mature enough to know better, but I hope she can get over it.

>>107097469
Maybe she sees it as an exclusively intimate thing, but I don't. It's background noise and helps me sleep. Listening to ASMR by other people doesn't mean I love her less.

>>107097555
>Is there any chance you'd be willing to use an alt for the comments at least
Hiding it from her would be worse.
>she had asked us to not bring up other girls in there herself
I know it's considered rude to bring up other girls in her spaces, so I don't. My interactions with them are public and under the name that she knows me by, but she'll only see them if she looks for them. This seems like completely reasonable behaviour to me. I'm being honest about what I'm doing, and what I'm doing isn't wrong.

>>107097671
It's fine man.

Pillow will have my undivided love and attention when we're married.

piller is my pillar

We need to make sure to heap lots and lots of love on her during her thanksgiving stream, Piwwos

pillow smells ahahaha WHAT NOW PILLOWFAGS?

>>107099585
I'll try.

>>107099646
She stinks good.

>>107099646
Well she does eat a lot of garlic.

>>107099661
built for big wario cock

To the guy who asked about casual viewers, you’re safe and okay. Pillow talked about this in her QA, but she basically said while she does want to make parasocial Piwwos happy, she also wants to make non-parasocial Piwwos happy. She said she wants to make sure Piwwos who don’t see her romantically don’t feel uncomfortable.
https://www.youtube.com/live/k4hmLx7t8OU 1:23:00

>>107099646
Sniffa

>>107099780 (me)
> it’s okay, you love me, I love you, but I also want to be respectful to piwwos who are not interested in those things.

>>107099780
>>107099860
Yearnbros is she mad at us :(

I think I can definitely see how casual non-parasocial Piwwos could be turned off to how loving and intimate she is. Though granted, I did have a period of not being particularly parasocial, and I mostly chalked it up to her just being a sweetheart. Most of her parasocial loving is only visible when you're in too deep.

>>107099915
I don't think so. I think if she meant it to be directed at anyone, it'd be meant as a "Stop fighting" more than anything. She pointed out directly that she doesn't want Piwwos feeling like they need to try and force other Piwwos to feel the same way as them. I am sure she's fully aware that the yearnwwos could not bring themselves to think of her any differently. I know if I was told that I have to either see her the same way as a cuckwwo or stop watching, I'd have to stop watching because I am not a man that can sink to that level of simpery.

>>107099915
How did you come to that conclusion?
She just reiterated that she wants all piwwos to be happy when they watch her, I don't understand how you took that as her being mad.

>>107099915
Pat pat

>>107099915
Why? Are you attacking other piwwos for not being a yearner?

Imagine pillow being your possessive Yandere girlfriend and then patting you on the head and telling you to go play nice with he non yearn piwwos

>>107099999
It seemed to me like she was upset with piwwos who express their real-life romantic desires, because it bothers the others who want her to continue as she is.

>>107100053
No. I don't care what other people want. They attack me.

>>107100250
That doesn't make any sense. If I say "I wanna marry Pillow and cherish her as my beautiful wife", at no point am I saying that you have to feel the same way, which is explicitly what she was referring to, trying to insist other Piwwos feel how you feel. You can be upset about anything you want, that doesn't mean we don't get to say it. Of course, I don't think she'd be happy with the ragebaiting some of the Piwwos do on here, but I'm certain Pillow has no issue with Piwwos just expressing how they feel in one of the few safe places to do it.

>>107100337
Well, okay. I'll keep posting as I have been. I hope it makes her happy to know that we love her so dearly as to want to spend the rest of our lives with her, and that she doesn't see it as doing something "against her wishes" or whatever point that guy was making the other day.

>>107100435
I mean, you just have to read based off of how upset that dude was getting about it to understand that it wasn't a reasonable position based on consideration for her feelings, it was most definitely just a position of insecurity and not wanting to consider the idea of her ever deviating from what they demand her to be for them.

Would you let Pillow give you one of those $1 Indian head massages?

>>107100675
You mean like slapping my head and stuff? Sure lol

There is one time that pillow got actually upset on stream, and it was during the piwwocraft opening when the one asshole wouldn’t stop trolling her. She didn’t verbally crash out but you could see her really losing it. I know some of you will remember because we were here saying it was hard to watch

>>107100733
Yeah that guy was an asshat, I wanted to say something in chat but refrained.

>>107100733
That was annoying but I don't think she was that upset about it. She even acknowledged him on stream later, though she might've just not recognised his name lol

>>107100857
Nah, she was definitely just playing along. She's done that a few times, where she tabs off to kick them, or just kills them. I don't think she's genuinely pissed off, she's just making it a bit.

What if pillow did a vrchat stream and put the camera up her skirt and shook her butt

>>107101649
Cannot lie, I don't find her models particularly hot at all. Some vtubers I can appreciate from a hentai perspective, for Pillow 99% of the fantasy is about the IRL girl, hence why her handcams are hotter than any upskirt that has happened during VR.

Making a litter of pups with PuppyDear

>>107079279
I wish I knew how to talk to/respond to vtubers, be it stream chat or xitter, I just never know what to say and it feels like I'm missing out a lot since I like vtubers that happen to be very interactive (a lot of them showed up in the pet charity stream), feels like playing a rhythm game with audio muted.

>>107102334
I used to be the same way. I've watched Pillow forever but never interacted until last year because I'm brutally autistic. Now I'm someone she recognizes and regularly interacts with.
>I wish I knew how to talk to/respond to vtubers
There is no "how to" guide to follow for chatting in vtuber streams. Unironically b urself. You don't have to force yourself to post anything if you don't feel like it. You also don't have to type like everyone else in the chat does.
If you're willing to go a little further, maybe make something for Pillow that you can show her on twitter. That's a great way for you to get your foot in the door and have her start recognizing your name whenever it pops in the chat.

>>107102334
Generally, the best thing to do if you want to stand out, without being weird and yelling at them, or giving a bunch of money and whaling, is just to say interesting or actually insightful things. Most chatters are just reacting, or sending just emotes. For Pillow I tend to default to:
-Looking things up about whatever we're doing, and mentioning interesting things about it. Pillow likes backseating, so that's particularly good for her.
-Engaging with the Piwwos directly, since parasocial chats tend to be really fixated on the chuuba, sometimes it's nice to address chat about something.
-Just being sweet to Pillow. It's really easy to think of genuine and sweet things to say to her, I know she will always appreciate it.

>>107102929
>Looking things up about whatever we're doing
Raising an eyebrow to that one. Fun random facts about a topic is fine but I can't think of a more demeaning position than Resident Googler other than GUY WHO TALKS LIKE THIS. That might just be me, and I only even thing of backseating on games I've actually played. Googling and answer to a game and getting it wrong anyways is something her mods already do.

>>107095019
I like beautiful female feet as much as the next guy, but is that really the kind of thing you want Pillow to start doing?

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>>107104069
No, but a single innocent feet pic wouldn't kill anyone

>>107101871
What DO you find hot?

>>107104143
Your best chance is convincing her to do something that just happens to put her feet on camera. Toenail painting was a good one, but it was too obvious and she caught on. She's never going to post feet pics because she's not the type to show off and she's always been strictly SFW (and we know why people want to see her feet).

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Don't forget about your android training piwwos.

>>107104241
I don't want to convince or trick her into doing anything. Pillow just knowing there's interest is fine by me. It means that if she's ever in the mood to give us some fanservice, she has an idea of what we'd like to see. If she never warms up to it, that's fine too.
I'm still gonna hornypost over her feet in the thread, however.

Now I'm gonna spend the day thinking about Pillow's feet, thanks a lot guys

Her feet must be so pretty. I want to hold and kiss them while she blushes and giggles.

https://x.com/pillowdearASMR/status/1994116495748497881
Adorable

>>107105016
I've been having a shit morning so seeing this put a smile on my face

>>107104069
Only for us piwwows. I wouldn’t like her sharing her cute body on Twitter where everyone can see. Just somewhere relatively hidden only for us. We adore her and know we’ll never see her face, so seeing her hands/legs/feet means a lot and she’s incredibly pretty and sexy and deserves that kind of praise for where else will she get it from? She deserves to feel attractive and wanted.

>>107105608
You know the pictures would end up somewhere public.

>>107105720
I doubt the /here/ piwwows would share them.

>>107105608
It's a terrible path for a woman to get her validation from internet strangers. Let her remain a decent and modest girl. One of her biggest appeals is her purity.

>>107106104
What if she posted Olive’s feet for us?

>>107106227
I don't really care about Olive. It'd be weird though.

>>107106237
Pillow…

>>107105608
>I wouldn’t like her sharing her cute body on Twitter where everyone can see. Just somewhere relatively hidden only for us.
So you want her to post photos of herself Only for her Fans? You're right, that's completely different.

I guess the baiters are scraping the bottom of the shitpost barrel today.

I might have done something that upset her.

>>107107580
If you seriously think the onlyfans and feet jests are bait, you might just be really autistic. Baiters don't need to be desperate here. This thread sucks low quality bait like I suck on Pillow's toes, like my life depends on it.

>>107108176
I was alluding to something else but ok then

vagueposters need to be rounded up and gassed

>>107108335
She did something and the schizo in me thinks it was in response to the conversation I was having earlier in this thread about watching other ASMRtists.

>>107108379
I'm not Pillow

>>107108741
No, she unliked the posts.

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>>107108810
Alright buddy

>>107108810
You don't know what cuck means, and you're not dating her.

sorry piwwows

>>107108995
holy shit

>>107109023
Yeah, you might've been right. It's soured the mood for me, to be honest.

>>107109352
Oh, I'm trying not to assume anything about her. I still don't know why she did it. It could be what you said, or maybe she just didn't like me mentioning it. And I'm not going to stop interacting with other VTubers and ASMRtists, because there's nothing wrong with that. I'd like to stick around, but if it really bothers her she can tell me and I'll leave, because I don't want to deal with that.

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Dressed up for the Thanksgiving stream

Someone ask her if she'll be following in the FOOTsteps of a certain VTuber friend of hers.

>>107110074
Piwwo you can clearly type just fine why not ask her these things yourself?

>>107110245
I don't actually want anyone to do that.

>>107110317
But what if some bold piwwo does it?

>>107111114
its over...

>>107111114
Hey man is everything okay

>>107111192
Make fun of the schizos but please don't say stuff like this.

Mr Ovis going out sad...

>>107111240
What happened :( I like him

>>107111293
I'm joking, but Pillow unliked some of his tweets. Seen here >>107109548
I don't think this is actually him but it would be very funny.
He IS notably missing from today's chat, despite being present in every single stream for months now.

whats wrong with you niggas

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>>107111527
Don't worry, Pillow mixes us up as well lol

>>107111585
Oh lmao. I guess this is just some random baiter then.

Very interesting posts
8/10 crashout

>all thpse deleted
israeli interesting...

>>107111661
I know I sounded annoyed in that post but she won me over again by responding very sweetly to my message. The spammer is just some anti-yearner schizo.

>>107111815
And not just those recent schizo posts. I guess it was the guy I was talking to earlier lol. He seemed reasonable at the time.

>white lace gloves again
already hard, I love her so much

I wonder if somebody out there is schizo enough to get a rough estimate of how big Pillow is by using her hands. Surely, having a rough estimate of how big her hand and arm is compared to a standard piece of printer paper can be used as a rough reference

>>107111954
I know it looks sus but I got nuked for my response to the cuckwos comment per my warning message, I have no idea why, I wasn't the person making the other comments recently. I assume some mod came by and just saw the word in my post and nuked me too but idk. I did only get a warning though

>>107112076
Oh, okay. You're alright man.

>>107112075
I've already calculated long ago that she is exactly 3 apples tall

>>107112076
Getting hit in the crossfire happens. I've been banned accidentally once but then unbanned a couple hours later.

Mods on vt are infamously retarded, remember that one pic of a mod samefagging their own post and forgetting to disable their mod id for their samefag? I wish I saved pics more often, it was so funny

There are no tard wranglers on 4Chan, just tards

im gonna cry

>>107111527
Yeah that’s not me. What happened on Twitter? Idek how you track something like that, unless your schitzophrenically tracking everything she likes and comparing the list constantly.

>>107113752
She’s a very very sweet girl, and deserves all the love she gets, and much more.

>>107113888
The post he referred to is mine. I said she unliked a couple of my replies to other VTubers/ASMRtists, which made me think she saw this thread and did that in response. She also just reiterated on stream that she means it when she says she doesn't want us to let anyone else take care of us. Well, okay, but I'm going to keep doing it. Sorry.

At this point people insisting she doesn't know what's good for her or claiming she'll change are just antis given how many times she's directly refuted them.

>>107113971
How Pillow feels now at 22 is how she'll feel for the rest of her life, I agree.

>>107113955
>Well, okay, but I'm going to keep doing it.
Why does that require rubbing it in her face?

Deadass, never felt the love and absolute appreciation and immense arousal from any other ASMR through the decade or more that I've listened to the medium. I'd likely never listen to another ASMRtist again.

>>107113955
That’s your prerogative Piwwo, I’m sure she knows she can’t have everyone loyal to her in all the ways she wants. Just make sure to never love another girl even 1% as much as Pillow. I personally don’t listen to other ASMR. I don’t need anyone besides Pillow. Though, I have hit the point of having nearly memorized every ASMR VOD.

>>107114002
If someone makes a vow and you keep going on about how they're going to break that vow you're an anti, yes.

>>107114016
That's because you subconsciously know that her feelings are genuine.

>>107114002
No point in dragging it up. If it happens, or doesn’t happen, Pillow will always love the Piwwos, that’s never changing. No point giving it much thought, particularly when she has much more immediate things that Piwwos can do for her.

>>107114132
Now that Thanksgiving is almost over, what are you guys thinking for Christmas for her? I personally make my gifts by hand, so I’m probably going to carve something out of wood for her. Does anyone know her favorite animal? I will probably never get the opportunity to actually get it to her, but it’s still important for her to know I’m thinking about her, and willing to put in effort for her.

>>107114015
I'm not. She doesn't have to come here and read these posts. I never tell her "I'm listening to this person's ASMR instead of yours tonight". She went through my Twitter posts, as she's known to do, and came across my replies to other people, and liked them (as well as a few others, which she hasn't unliked). I just thought she was being sweet and appreciating that I support other creators. I only have feelings for her. I thought that was obvious.

>>107114066
I respect the vow of marriage and think it's vital to uphold. I don't think promising to be single forever to make thousands of strangers happy is either wise or reasonable. I'm happy if she just means she wants to be a VTuber forever though, because she enjoys it and is good at it.
>anti
I understand that this is part of the board culture or whatever, but it's a ridiculously childish insult. It's exactly the same as calling someone a "hater".

>>107114200
>Does anyone know her favorite animal?
Millipede, good luck lol

>>107114321
So many legs to carve…

Just realised I've been listening to her ASMR and I hadn't even noticed because I've been posting here

>>107113955
>Well, okay, but I'm going to keep doing it. Sorry.
Are you going to pretend this isnt you again too >>107114002

>>107114376
No. When did I pretend the first time?

>>107114274
>I respect the vow of marriage and think it's vital to uphold
You are a schizo, **tt*. $5000 to a charity and claiming you're not parasocial as you constantly talk about how much what she says means nothing while what you believe means everything. You are a faggot, a groomer, and you think of only yourself
Kill yourself before you anger a coworker of yours enough with your autism that they do it first

>>107114500
I feel like Pillow would be unhappy to know her beloved Piwwos are coping, seething, dilating, and arguing on 4chan whilst she’s trying to make them sleepy and relaxed

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I truly believe the relatively recent notion that Pillow reads this thread is extremely unhealthy for this general. It waters down real truthful discussion, encourages annoying, pointless policing, and feeds harmful schizophrenic mindsets.

Am I the only one who thinks the ear pick sounds a bit too loud? I find it a bit jarring. Do you think it might have something to do with her adjusting her audio settings earlier?

>>107114712
I feel like pillow would be happier knowing that the dozens of piwwos this nigger has annoyed and have complained to me privately in DMs were given what they deserved and had that man violently thrown out of helicopter for the issues he insists on causing in this fanbase because he thinks 4chan "doesn't count"

>>107114500
I still don't really know what "parasocial" means. Yeah, I've obviously invested a lot of time into her and I interact with her a lot.
>you constantly talk about how much what she says means nothing while what you believe means everything
No, I don't. I've said multiple times that I trust her fully and believe that she means what she says. I just also understand that people change.
As for the rest of your post, has she not been a positive influence on you? How can you watch her and still say stuff like that?

>>107114805
Not relatively recent, she’s been checking it regularly for more than a year. Still, I would agree it’s not wise to treat it like we need to cater our words towards how she’ll feel about it. An important part of 4chan is the fact that it’s anonymous.

>>107114842
I think she’s using the Halo mic, so it spikes a bit more than usual. At least on my AirPods it ain’t bad

>>107114867
I’m parasocial cuz I wanna kiss her and hold her hands. I think it would be very nice.

>>107114981
Me too.

>>107114867
I am literally protecting what she cares about from you you fucking piece of shit. You come here to try and destroy what she has spent her life building, you come here to destabilize her fanbase with implications of her not holding promises shes made for 6 years in a row(or else believe that promises dont matter to the person who has said that keeping promises longterm is one of her core central moral principles, which is just as bad), you come here to cause problems, to cause arguments, if you hadn't been here pillow would've never gotten that fucking email about a dude killing himself because if you hadn't started your fucking "yearnposting" that post would've never had the impetus to happen
You are causing frustration among other piwwos
I am responding to that, because I care about what she tries so hard to build and protect, and you are damaging it

>>107114805
>relatively recent
Cmon now

>>107115017
Such a powerful warrior, you’re truely fighting for justice! Bro it’s 4chan, nobody is ruining shit by talking about how they wanna take pillow out to Outback Steakhouse one day.

>>107115017
>if you hadn't been here pillow would've never gotten that fucking email about a dude killing himself
Hardly fair to put that on anyone except the guy who (said he) sent it.
Anyway, you don't sound okay and I really don't want to get embroiled in an argument with someone who has a imaginary version of me in his head, so why don't we just stop enjoy the stream?

>>107115095
The 15 different piwwos ive gotten pissy dms from about this threads fucking "yearnposting" beg to differ
im even excluding the ones that bitch about the hornyposting

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Piwwos come on we got a gorgeous woman whispering into our ears and being sweet.

Who told her to do the kisses monster? That was posted here the other day...

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>>107115470
It's just a coincidence right? Right?

>>107114805
"Every single vtuber I've ever talked to looks at /vt/" - Shondo herself, and many other vtubers besides saying something similar
You're right
Its actually fucking terrible that it happens
It makes everything worse
The problem is that its still, depressingly, true

>>107115797
They want raw unfiltered feedback and they can only realistically get that here

I love Pillow very much

Ah that was great

One thing that all earnest Pillow-loving piwwos should do is internalize Pillow as 'your girlfriend' from now on. It'll make everything she does feel even better and become a constant source of comfort in your daily life. Ignore the naysayers and just accept her love fully and without qualifiers.

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idk what this thread is but I'm saving OPs picture without permission. It's cute

>>107117162
Helloooo that’s a self portrait of PillowDear

>>107117162
Pillow is your oshi now

>>107116832
I kinda have but I don't wanna get too dependent on her. It is nice though, she gives me things to look forward to and always makes me smile just watching her.

im going to turn this op image into a 3d model replacement mod for chickens in Minecraft and its going to be as horrifying as that sounds

>>107115095
>talking about how they wanna take pillow out to Outback Steakhouse
This is fine.
>talking about how they wanna take pillow out to Outback Steakhouse after a stream where she either hides your existence or has announced she has a boyfriend
This is cuckposting.

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>>107117385
Do it piwwo, do it for the lulz

>>107117397
I dont even get why people feel the need to add the extra half
like isnt the good part the first half, its not like anybody asked for or requires exposition

I'd rather have Pillow clean my foreskin if you catch my drift

Pillow has the safest and most secure GFE I've ever felt, and I'm not entirely sure why.

>>107120788
>>107120788
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