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>>107064087I can't see this shit
>2023
>>107064087Advent is thriving while Saba continues to barely stream, so her efforts as Gura to derail her competition failed
Why did she do it?
>>107064195Both got their wishes, then
>>107064239Because Advent was the first real competition that HoloEN got, Council was a long overdue 2nd gen and Advent came in at a time where the 2 EN gens had gotten comfortable. Gura saw Biboo especially as a threat, because she was the first loli member to come after her and have similar appeal. She was pretty much the only EN member that never had any interaction with Gura, even during fes stuff
>>107064195>thriving
>>107064195Anon, Saba doesn't need to do anything at all to thrive, unlike Adventshit, who have to tryhard to stay relevant, even when they receive preferential treatment from the cover. If you want to talk about Saba's fans being the real losers in all this, that's a different topic, but trying to diminish Saba's success is really pathetic and a quite massive cope
>>107064324>6 minute gimmick stream and Shiori the runt of AdventAt least they actually stream more than once or twice a month
>>107064342She's successful for 0 reason
>>107064087>overlapped So did everyone else, but only Gura mattered?
>>107064404Not to the extent that Gura did. She literally went from barely streaming during the 1st half of that year, to streaming more than she had that year in that month. How convenient that she only started to stream frequently again as soon as the new EN gen dropped, and how convenient that she only streamed when Biboo especially started her streams
>>107064446She already explained this. She was excited and Hololive felt like 2020/2021 again. And then she realized it was an illusion and that time can never be relived again and it was over.
>>107064399Still successful. Next time you want to shit on Saba, stick to the safe stuff, like how she's a grifter, hates her fans, doesn't like streaming, etc.; that way you won't end up looking like a retarded clown.
>>107064471That makes 0 sense that a new gen coming made her feel like Hololive was returning to its roots, and that she only gave it 2 weeks before giving up again and not streaming anymore during the rest of that year. She was and always has been a lazy cunt that tried to derail the 3rd gen, she was already eyeing leaving and wanted to she management that she could beat out the new girls and that she still had levearge
>>107064497Her "success" has 0 merit when everything around her is built upon nothingness. That her returning to stream for the 5th time in a year is such a recurring event, that it's celebratory for her fans
>>107064342This feels similar to what Xboxfaggots say when Xbox lost the console war and resorted into that strange "everything is Xbox" mental gymnastics
>>107064512>That makes 0 sense that a new gen coming made her feel like Hololive was returning to its rootNo, it was about that period when Council just debuted, which was the peak of HoloEN.>and that she only gave it 2 weeks before giving up againThat's when Ame informed her behind the scenes she was leaving, so Gura gave up.
>>107064534you're still trying to twist the topic and your own initial words towards a moral stance when that has nothing to do with ''thrive'' and ''success'', but I suppose that's easier than admitting you were wrong>>107064587?
>>107064594I don't think there was ever truly a peak for EN, even from the beginning it was shit because they got fucked over so much due to the covid restrictions
>>107064087Gura lost and Advent won. Chumbuds need to cope for weeks for a single stream in between Sabas adventures in Sweden while Advent is pushing HoloEN forward
>>107064612I still don't believe she's successful, you can try to spin it any way you want but that's just how I see her. You can't just look at numbers, she has absolutely 0 relevancy anymore outside of her own fanbase
>>1070646142020/2021 was peak for box content. Current EN is peak for the concerts and shit. Personally I much preferred 2020/2021.
>>107064635What's the worth of your "relevancy," whatever that means, if they don't bring in viewers? You sound like a homofag jacking himself off over Twitter engagement.
>>107064820I'm not the one being a numberfag here
>>107064087Can't wait for the next debut.More Saba streams.
Saba really is just coasting. Come back when she does something entertaining and meaningful
>>107064087Advent is the soulless gen so I can't blame her. There is a reason she collabed with Justice instead before she left.
Well, Biboo retaliated and got someone to play DMC.
>>107064087That's quite a dedication now that we know she is in sweden.
vtubing is dead anon you can move on to shitposting something else now
why are you still crying OP
>>107064087which AI is this
>>107064087bro could you make that shit any smaller
>>107064087It's a doggy dog world
>>107064087Ignoring the fact Gura started her streams at almost always the same time, with the August 13 stream starting at a different timeAlso it's 2025 just let it go, both of their fanbases are doing just fine, regardless of quantity and quality of the streams they provideLike Biboo's not gonna let you suck her toes bro
>>107064614>restrictionsIt was better before 4 months of the year are gone to practice just to still be bad
>>107065291Both Mori and Irys and we know other girls will now eventually play it because they know it gets views
>>107064912NTA but I just wanted to step in and say kill yourself. You are disgustingly retarded.
So Biboo was in fact the Gura killer...
>>107064342Yeah that's great and all but where's the saba streams?
>>107064087It's even funnier now that we know she stayed up in the middle of the fucking night until morning just to try and kneecap biboo.
>>107064087Gura maintained that streaming slot since before Biboo debuted. If anything, its Biboo snaking Gura's time slot from her in an attempt to draw in some of her fans.
>>107064399>>107064534>>107064635So irrelevant that she reincarnated with a more subs than anyone in Advent, and sold out her merch run in seconds.
It's amazing the lengths chumbuds go to protect Gura's bullshit
>>107067761That's some mediocre cope, if she streamed consistently her fans wouldn't just start watching Biboo instead.
>>107067791So where's the streams? Oh wait before you copy pasta some usual cope don't bother.
Why is saba's defense force so painfully ESL?
>>107068029you know why
how does saba, who doesn't stream, still have more subs than biboo, the new face of hololive
>>107067761>afk for months>stream on Bijou's debut day>NOOOO BIJOU SHOULD HAVE DELAYED HER DEBUT!!!!
>>107068396biboo should have had a plan on how to compete with gawr gura
>>107064087why should I have ever cared about this?
>>107068412plan should have been to afk for months so the shark wouldnt feel threatened
>>107067761>muh timeslotKWABAlso, she hadn't been using "her" timeslot. She barely streamed.
biboo is kinda mid. Youtube keeps reccing whenever I watch saba clips or streams. The let me cook/NO thing was funny tho.
>>107064087I've completely accepted the fact that shork is malicious towards Biboo for whatever reason, she's lost a bit of my respect
>>107064087who cares gura is dead and saba is boring
>>107068914biboo lost my respect for not speaking out once gura left
>>107068428It was very funny to watch her overlap, sometimes down to the minute. This girl had been ghosting and telling everyone she had health issues and suddenly she can muster the energy and stamina to pull off consecutive multi-hour streams.
>>107064133Hello phoneposter. If you open up the image and replace the m.jpg at the end with the original extension (.png in this case) you can see the full resolution.Not only for this but for others too.
>>107069083It's easier to switch to desktop mode
>>107067761>Gura maintained that streaming slot since before Biboo debutedShe'd have to actually stream to "maintain" that slot. She was perpetually AWOL and then showed up to stream just on the exact day and time Bijou streamed? The similar loli design in HoloEN? Gura could have just moved her stream forward or back a few hours and maintained her viewership, the Cumrags would have showed up.Gura did this because she's a petty bitch. That's all there is to it.
Isn't Biboo streaming constantly. Correlation =/= causation
Picrel is this thread in a nutshell. Or pretty much 95% of all Gura/Saba catalog threads over the past 5+ years.
>>107069083On mobile you can still open the original image in 2 different ways so it's nice and clear. I've no idea why you tried to make it harder. >>107069318And yes there's also desktop mode.
>>107064087Now that I think about it, maybe it’s not a coincidence that Kronii and Kiara, who are close with Saba, kinda keep their distance from Biboo
>>107064087the chart makes it look like they're racing vrrrrrooooom
>>107068396Biboo debuted on July 30. Those two streams before August are for comparison. That's been consistently her time slot.
>>107068524
>>107069645>She was perpetually AWOL and then showed up to stream just on the exact day and time Bijou streamed?Look at the dates, retard. You colossal idiot.>Gura could have just moved her stream forward or back a few hours and maintained her viewershipShe had no obligation to do so, and her viewership remained stable if you check the stats post-Biboo. It actually got a bit of a bump because people were flocking back to EN to check the new generation.
>>107064594>Council just debuted, which was the peak of HoloENCouncil, the gen still riding on the coattails of COVID effect and ended up losing against NijiEN homos.
>>107067761Why she wanted to keep a slot at 3am?
>>107067761It's not her timeslot if she never streams.
>>107068231Saba has less subs than Kiara. Really shows how many dead subs she actually did have.
>>107071082And the dead Kiara subs?
>>107071249gura is dead, kiara is not dead
>>107069083I'm on desktop. why in the non important part huge and the important parts tinyit's just a shitty image, phoneviewing has nothing to do with it
>>107071755Stfu esl
>>107072171oh no i made a minor typo and said "in" instead of "is". that's not esl, dumbass, that just a brainfart
>>107064087All this shows is that she was overlapping Nerissa though? At least get your basic facts straight nigger.
>>107068983Assuming she felt slighted, why would you respect someone more for airing it out in public nearly 2 years after the fact? The mature and healthy approach is to accept you can't control others and move on with your life not talking, or even thinking, about them.
>>107072231why does gura gawr hate nerissa?
she did the same with GG and then she shilled fauna for months before graduation announcement.
>>107064087You can tell this was made by a schizo numberfag because of how much unnecessary information is in this. If I'm trying to prove that Gura is overlapping Biboo specifically why include the rest of Advent's streams? Why include the viewership on the line itself instead of up with the date? Why include data for days that Gura didn't even stream? AND WHY CALL IT DEBUT WEEK WHEN IT'S A FUCKING MONTH OF DATA
Its almost thanksgiving and waking up at 3am still incredibly funnyI wonder if it will be funny on thanksgiving
>>107064382>”runt”an absolute failure at everything
>>107064087>lolis should not stream at the same timeogey schizo
>>107065190EN 2 > EN 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> EN 4 > EN 3>do not get the advent hype, besides biboo, they are pretty boring…
>>107076626The girls in Justice feel more sincere than the ones in Advent
>>107065216This will never happen. Her fans will enable her until she retires or dies.
>>107064304>>107064239>>107064087the idea was that, since Gura has the most fans, if she returned around the same time, those people would also check out the new debuts.
>>107064399Must be a cia asset
>>107076804if that was the idea she would be streaming before the newer girls instead of right on top
>>107064399>She's successful for 0 reasonSometimes it's just timingIt doesn't take a genius to see that there are tons of 'talentless' but successful people and 10x more hardworking but not successful.
Post the picture of Biboo killing Gura.
>>107065190If you think En3 and En4 are better than En2, you do not watch streams and are just in it for the purty designs
not reading an autismo paint file made to justify a bigass stretch of a rrat that represents no greater consequence to anything
>>107076804that's a really dumb idea
>>107064087why the fuck did you use comic sansargument lost you're schizophrenic>>107069083holy shit 9999 years using this crap and i never knew thisi love you
>>107064087doesnt count
>entire thread is just niji/phasecucks seething at both Saba and Hololive Literally monkeys in a zoo
>>107079998Holocucks seethe at Saba too, unfortunately
>>107082882Proof that isn't from /here/?
>>107065291Yeah, Mint.
>>107083021>proofA lot of non-holofans would call her Bijou, not Biboo
>>107064512first you guys say she never streams then you set a bunch of ground rules for how she's allowed to stream and you wonder why she left???
>>107064087my favorite part is how quickly gura gave up.
>>107077239The nature of the world is that untalented retards usually have more success and luck than hardworkers or geniuses simply because they're stupid enough to gamble all theri money on bullshit, while the genius is writing up a manifesto charting where he thinks he needs to be and the hardworker just copes by pulling double shifts at his mcjob.
>>107065291>>107066459>this is the peakKek. I guess the botting deadbeat didn't feel like boosting this stream.
>>107064399>>107064534pebbles crying that Biboo's "success" only came from being botted for most of her career...
>>107068983biboo lost my respect for being boring and pretending like her cringe fake baby voice isn't just to pander to lolicons
>>107066038>Gura was a machiavellian mastermind who subconsciously implanted hints in her songs and streams that she hates Hololive >Overlapping Biboo? You’re overthinking things. How could she possibly be aware of every stream going on in Hololive? Also even if she did overlap, it was during her regular hours.I understand you may not be one of the deluded chumbuds in that first point, but the point in the second applies. People tend to undermine the fuck out of streaming, and because of that they downplay just how cognizant streamers are of things. Specifically numbers and stream times, those two things do matter (this doesn’t mean #monkeys don’t still deserve death)Gura was already burnt out by the time Advent joined, she didn’t give a fuck about her regular hours. Also you’re conveniently leaving out how she wouldn’t just start the same time, but run her streams right alongside the new EN loli until the end. This with the confirmation of the whole Sweden shit really goes to show that she went out of her way to keep her mindshare.I’d have some respect for the rookie crushing if she actually regularly streamed, but it really is just a pathetic and desperate look on her end to keep her top spot with minimum effort.
>>107076626>besides biboo, they are pretty boringlollmao why exclude biboo? all she does is sit on her ass for hours and barely says anything like Kaela, while stealing unfunny tiktok memes mixed with her cringe and annoying voice
>>107076871kek. This is my rrat now
>>107072231This is true, the timeslot was shared with Nerissa, Biboo started 1 hour early with Fauna.
>>107076674>gosh golly, time for some homocock after 2 years! get banned>https://x.com/Squidamii/status/1990869577371201938 *sucks pacifier*>video games are just my job, time to do nothing but scroll on twitter and not even make thumbnails for streams>BAU BAU WUFFIANS! x100+ per stream TIME FOR ANOTHER CELEBRATION STREAM! GIVE US MONEY, SUBS, AND VIEWS CAUSE WE'RE HUNGRY PUPPIES! FIRST TIME PART 7!
>>107091226oof... "faces of EN" kek without their usual bots
>>107088784>t. "gifted" child that never lived up to their potential
>>107064087can someone tell me what her usual (heh) start time was in CET/CEST?
>>1070930959AM jstdo your homework with that information.
How much would she overlap if EN5 becomes true?
>>107093191desu if you use JST as a baseline you already are subhuman and not worth taking seriously. EOP board should use EOP time zones. Go back to your containment thread.
>>107076774good for her I guess, she carved out her own niche but she does not deserve to have a crown. Literally unmemorable now
>>107093250>the sun never sets on the British EmpireI'm sorry for you
>>107067761it would be nice if she streamed more consistently at that time slot
>>107064512it makes 0 sense because she streamed for two weeks (during their debut collab ban) and stopped the moment they could actually interact on stream and it's been some of her longest streams ever no real reason why
>>107093471Also, we shouldn't forget the Valentine's days to suck her members money, that's very low.
Did Gura and biboo ever talked on stream? Like as collab partners and not those accidental conversation if they met in minecraft.
>>107093794remember the palworld incident (Gura muted them)
>>107093821why does Gura hold a grudge?
>>107093848biboo is cringe and annoying
>>107093848Gura's allergic to people who stream
>>107064446Its not Gura's fault that she shared the same time slot as Biboo. Neither is it Biboo's.
This continues to be the most retarded "conspiracy" ever.
>>107093191>1 AMkek
>>107064133dont
>>107091989I like that she is moody, emo Gura
>>107064087I think it's pretty funny that you can actually see her successfully leeching off from biboo's on most overlaps, too
>>107064087
>>107064087I don't see any correlation here. Gura always announced her streams hours in advance. Biboo just decided to break convention and use Gura's slot so they overlapped somewhat.
