https://x.com/FTWEntertain/status/1993862343621575107Brave Group is spinning off Chromashift, NLiTE, and OshiLive into a separate, independent company called FTW Entertainment.V4Mirai remains under Brave Group US.Wasn't Chromashift supposed to get 3D models from Brave? I guess that's not happening now.
>>107090368>Wasn't Chromashift supposed to get 3D models from Brave? I guess that's not happening now.I thought Idol/Chroma did 3D concerts already at Offkai and Vexpo last year?
>>107090368no one cares retard, wrong board.
>>107090842Which 4chan board should this be posted on?
>>107090368The fuck is NLite and Oshilive?
>>107090368>NLiTE and Oshi LiveWhat the hell are theseAlso where does globie fit into this
>>107090923>NLiTE is a virtual boy band consisting of 4 members: Nico, Luka, Tyson, and EliOshilive is (was) Brave Group's LA-based 3D Mocap studio
>>107090368>Didn't even mention globiekek
>>107090368I am very confused with how Brave is handling their subsidiaries and groups.
>>107090882>>>/biz/
this reads as if Brave Group has given up on ChromaShift and are gonna leave it on the vine to die. I mean, the Brave EN vine was dying anyway so no matter what they were fucked. There is just nowhere for Brave EN groups to goJust spinning their wheels going nowhere. Their channels are botted subs but poor viewership. They get to do 1-2 3D concert a year where they sing 2 songs each. Nobody ever progresses. Repeat the next year until you get tired of doing it.
>>107091032it's a vtuber company, not a cryptoscam you moron
>>107090991the announcement is about restructuring Brave group US, globie is part of Brave group Europe
ChromasShift is no longer listed on the Brave website of properties they brag about
>>107091088forgot linkhttps://bravegroup.co.jp/en/business/#ip-production-content
>>107090368>Keeping V4Mirai>Getting rid of their 3D mocap studioAs if any more proof was needed that V4M 3D is just a bunch of skinwalkers
>>107091058>>>/biz/61400514
>>107091132is Oshilive even real?
>>107091132I am convinced 80% of 3d mocap in vtubing is bullshitV4 and Dokibird prime offenders
>>107091172Yes but it's not that good. Small room, outdated equipment, staff aren't that experienced
>>107091207it is completely believable that overweight and awkward doki went from dancing like picrel to being 3x the dancer mint is in 4 dance classes
>>107091329sovli don't know why corpos think fans prefer skinwalking to this
>>107090842Non-holo board. You abandoned it. You lost.
>>107091393cheaper to hire a skinwalker than to fly the talents out to a mocap studio, pay for their hotel, food, etc.
>>107091040>>107090368Is this even surprising? According to the financial report, they are in operating loss of billions of yen, and they will only lose more money if they tried to keep these agencies, let alone expand furtherThis is the point where Brave Group is now shrinking instead of expanding. Idol corp, V4Mirai and others will never compete with NijiEN, let alone HoloEN. They are fighting on a losing ground and the financial result was the final nail in the expansion plan coffin
I dont get why Brave never tried to get an actual partnership with Phase? Like a real one, not a "partnership for me to buy out later" type thing.Like Phase is where Brave EN wants to be in that scene, and Phase has always struggled to get a foothold in the JP side where Brave has footing
Roca, come home
>>107091681Phase is ambitious and anti-japan just like vshitjou
>>107091946>anti-japan>has 8 JP talents that are going nowhere and their only hope is to get EN crumbsstrange
>>107090368>baggage>OshiLive That's their studio recording apparatus. How is that baggage?
>>107092103no point in having a studio if the 3D performances are just skinwalked anyway
>>107092149Evidence of Minto being skinwalked?
>>107091017I don't think they know what they're doing either. Apparently Brave management is unpleasant to deal with, with the individual division management a bit better to deal with.
I don’t understand what Lisa and Lopi are still doing there
>>107090368the embracer group of vtubing
>>107091946That's not an accurate picture. Especially given the a whole JP division, and the money put into it. Fishman wants a foothold and legitimacy there but may understand its going to be an uphill battle. The JP talents bust their ass, and a few collab frequently, moreso than the EN talents. >>107091681I have heard that Brave its self it not easy to deal with, and furthermore the EN space that Phase occupies isn't as large as it could be, although it seems to still be highly profitable. Sakana is seemingly laid back all things considered but isn't a fool about business he might not be willing to deal someone else telling him what to do.
>>107092267Not even sure why Lopi opted to work for them, unless it was for insurance. She was complaining about medical bills before it came out she had signed up with them.
>>107090368So who's going to invade their way into Phase from this
Brave seems to have extremely predatory contracts — see how Riot Music can still post graduated member’s recording, and Brave doesn’t have to announce graduation (Suzuna)
>>107092164Not sure what she has to do with this, she isn't part of Brave Group.
>>107090963globie is Brave EU, idol and v4m were Brave US
>>107090368rest in piss chroma shit
>>107091681Brave is a lot larger than Phase, way more money involved. They own Vspo and Neoporte; no.3 and 4 in jp. The benefit is too marginal given Phase’s size; the only ‘partnership’ would be buying Phase
>>107091976they hate idol culture and want to normalize western degeneracy and culture warrior slop in its stead
>>107092730they should buy and scuttle ph*se
>>107092730But they have what Brave wants: a foothold in the en scene. What Brave has been doing has not worked all of their EN expansions have been failures with no traction.All of their JP influence and money has gotten them nothing but dead subs and big debt in EN.
>>107092783Well unfortunately for you Sakana is pretty set not to sell anytime soon. >>107092760Man what did phase do to you? Rape your mother?
>>107092795EN corpo vtubing is way too small, I doubt they cared that much. It isn’t expansion but more like diversifying portfolio for Brave
>>107092813leave your IRL shit out of my escapism, phasecuck>doxxing>politics>culture warall your ilk should just fuck off from vtubing and go back to kvetching about capeshit
>>107092861We will see. Brave might be getting out of the EN business all together. Their EN groups are all money pits.
>>107092865None of that is Phases fault...... sister. Much worse than what you claim Phase does has been legit done by JP corps.
>>107092675The ex-corpos did their stuff with them
>>107092897don't make me post pippa with doxxagi
>>107092898I thought that was OshiSpark
>>107090368>idol gets sibling branch>they're homos
>>107092944You think that's a threat? Pippa is a fucking retard, you're not telling me anything I don't already know dumbshit. She'll avow that the people she talks with are good people, like Pirate Software. Just because she has no sense doesn't mean her shit isn't regularly quarantined or disliked by the rest of the company. Kirsche for example has been blacklisted.
>>107092898Brave finds it's cheaper/easier to get skinwalkers for V4MNot enough outsiders pay to use the studio to warrant keeping it (maybe only a couple of times a year)So they shed it off
>>107091285Ironmouse used them for her recent concert and the mocap looked really good
>>107092944>4 year old screencapget new material
>>107093329I will once she apologizes for it and bans him and every other doxxfag, kiwitard and tvafaggot
>had open invitation to Phase in>instead joined the company that got bought out, rebranded for no reason, and dumped on the side of the roadKWAB
>>107093580That invitation is still there. Fishman is patient
>>107093600Truth, It took two years for Clio to come in, and the door is still open for Saya.
kill all phasebeggars
Brave has antis?
Brave EU likely questioning how long they got left
>>107090978Sounds like v4mirai will be losing their 3D if this happens
>>107092861Brave spent money like crazy to trick investors into pouring money into them. EN is a dead end so they're starting to cut the dead weight.
>>107092861It's not even about EN, that's just how Brave works, they cut out multiple JP and CN groups as well.
Phase is waiting Lisa
>>107090368Did Brave do anything for Idol/Chromashift aside from the rebranding?Obviously it's still all under the same ownership unless they actually sell this new unit at some point, but spinning the wheel on a new management structure can hardly hurt given where they are.
>>107093580a huge chunk of the phase fanbase just took part in making her feel bad so I wouldn't get your hopes up, phasepag
>>107091837Don't listen to him Roca, come home, you don't need to learn how to dance, you can just sing at fes while sitting or don't go if you don't want like Shiori, come on take my hand.
>>107094547especially the recent flat shaming incident
>>107094731that's what I was referring to, unless they did something else recently
>>107094499They did get 2nd outfits and the 3D concerts at Offkai/VExpo and merch. But not much else other than that.
>>107091285>Small room, outdated equipmentAre there photos of this place?
>>107094745>unless they did something else recentlythey have been stalking her for years including the CEO himself so that wouldn't surprise me either
>>107090393That doesn't sound right. I'm pretty sure most of them don't have them.
>>107094803https://youtu.be/4XPa1gYdW_Y
>>107094842All V4M 3Ds were done here?Even concerts?
>>107094903yeah
>>107094547>a huge chunk>one clipper that got destroyed in a day by literally everyone
>>107094675It always makes me uneasy when the Roca shilling is very similar in tone to the pre-Phase Clara shilling.
>>107094992CL and tsunderia get free passes into phase because sakana is a fanboy simp
>>107094955The one that's currently tried painting himself as a victim for people here telling him to kill himself, filled with hundreds of replies from autistic phasefags sucking his dick and calling anyone who didn't like it a tourist, and calling the vtubers who stepped in to shit on him bullies.
Ultimately, there just isn't much to EN corpo vtubing's future, and this is simply another symptom of it. The scen won't collapse all at once, but it'll pathetically peter out as individuals keep trying to make it work.
The core IPs of Brave are vspo, neoporte, himehina in JP and stellive in KR. Even V4mirai would not be so profitable than expected I guess. The only EN that can be allowed to exist will be vspo EN.
All of this EN buy up is just a plan to trick investors and prepare for Brave's IPO
>>107096080This isn't a buy-up, this is a sell-off
>>107095610globie blew up
>>107096517Bonnie flesh posting her massive tits can only carry the rest of the corpo so far
>>107090368THE GLOBIE IS DEAD
>>107096679To the surprise of nobody.
>>107096517Damn right it did
Avriel... why did you sell?
>>107094675Roca's a rock star, not someone for idolslop. No thanks.
>>107091681Brave EN wanted to be the Nazi company?Because that’s what Phase is it’s the “based” right wing reactor Pippa and a bunch of who’s and given Pippa is now doing fucking feetcams I’d say that viewer base is drying up
>>107092103Do you think Brave ever made a single cent of profit off that studio? If anything it was their biggest money hole given there’s no way any of V4Mirai made enough money off their 3ds to cover the expenses
>>107096986Dude you couldn't be further from the truth if you tried.
Does anyone have the agency chart? You know the one.
>>107091946>anti japan>has a whole ass JP branch now>talents fairly regularly go to JapanDo you even watch vtubers, never mind any of the ones involved here?
>>107097426They go to Japan because it is cheaper to record 3D there. There is talk of Phase building a 3D studio in their warehouse tho. That would be a mistake because Sakana would just fill it from equipment he got on sale at Costco
I’ve come to the conclusion that there are no more vtuber-vtuber fans in EN>hololive fans are hololive fans, not vtuber fans (they don’t like vtubers outside holo)>nijisanji fans are nijisanji fans, not vtuber fans>phase connects fans are phase connect fans not vtuber fans>/lig/gers are twitch clique fans, not vtuber fansBrave’s mistake is that they try to pander to vtuber fans in the west but those do not existNiji does black corpo stuff do and is profitable and continues, Brave indonesia works because there are vtuber-vtuber fans in sea
>>107099696these are all too big for me, including brave subsidiaries
>>107090842you're the one on the wrong board. get to your censored tower and fuck off so we can continue our conversation.
>>107093741this post aged like wine
>>107090963>Also where does globie fit into thisLOL, I assume you made this comment before the announcement.>GAAS2
>>107093791It doesn't sound like that at all. It just means now V4mirai will subcontract the 3D studio like a third party would, keeping the businesses separate.
>>107090991oof
Is Idol/Chroma Shift the most passed around vtuber corp in existence?
>>107097320The guy who makes it at TVA recently posted a new versionhttps://files.catbox.moe/hpmnk1.png
>>107090368This looks amateur as hell
>>107102922
>>107102922That file's 91MB, here's a reduced size version
>>107090368Do they have anything good aside from maybe some vspo en girls?
>>107102922And already outdated with globie dead.
>>107090368>WTF Entertainment
>>107090368So Chromashift being moved to a different company saved them. Everyone else is on the chopping block.
>>107106780>savedREAD THE GRADUATION DOCEY they are getting the staff from Brave who fucked them into this mess in the first place. they are mega doomed
>>107096986Nice schizo post, have a (You)
>>107104166In EN, not much. REM in v4m has been inclining lately, but far from the level you can hang a whole company on.
>>107107608When the BraveUS CEO transferred to FTW v4m girls started dooming and his replacement is likely responsible for the fuck-up with Mari's birthday.
>>107107886>transferedYeah like how the marines who get caught tomahawking on social media get transfered to alaska lmao
>>107099696Tribalism was set in place in the EN vtuber community from day 1 (effectively holomyth debut). This was inevitable.
>>107090368RUMAO
GLOBIE GOT SOLD TO SOMEONE WHO WORKED AT ROOSTERTEETH AIEEEEEEEE
>>107090368lol
>>107107886And if that new management fuck up V4Mirai, Brave Group's Western expansion is over.Oh, and same goes for MUGEN LIVE and AStars if they're also screwed over.
>>107107608So everyone is doomed
>>107096944I’m glad that you feel entitled to decide for someone else that they aren’t interested in making life changing money.
>>107094675Shiori’s been to FES and has been to Japan multiple times, faggot. She goes, gets what she needs to get done, and goes the fuck back home. You’re thinking of Fauna and Gura.
>>107102922holy fuck that massive graveyard
>>107094841no, there was some sort of 3d concert at the most recent offkai. main stage even.
>>107116648proof?
>>107116677https://x.com/ChromaSHIFT_BUS/status/1965128004297707918
>>107117128p sure brave skinwalks all their concertsaint no way they flew 13 girls out to record at the same time
>>107117181where do you think the money went?
>>107117235To making the models
>>107108290For a while there was a prominent group of unityfans who would watch chuubas from all sorts of corpos big and small incouding some indies. These people fled when dramabombs from corpos exploding kept happening one after another
>>107119878Yeah, I think the last bit of those fled after Vshojo collapsed. They were the icon of unity and when that collapsed, most either went back to their comfort streamers exclusively or left to a less drama ridden hobby.
Jewish > Japanese > American > JapanesePerms must be hell
>>107103057>661x860
>>107120067>They were the icon of unity>walled off and boosted to the top of the Twitch pages>unity with actually small corpo girlsok. The only point I can give you is the tranny buying some model rights.
>>107090368the en fad is deadcome home white man
