>YouTube is the best platform for streaming if you're a small cont-- ACK!!
>>107179009kek based youtube fucking with the indiefags, total corpo domination
is this real grok?
If you were worth watching, you'd be in Hololive.Simple as.
>>107179047The post quotes a creator's outrage over YouTube's policy limiting live streams to about 30 concurrent viewers for channels under 1,000 subscribers, a 2019 safety measure to curb harmful broadcasts like mass shootings.This restriction, confirmed in YouTube's official help pages, defaults streams to private and persists even after subscriber drops, frustrating small creators who rely on streams for accessible growth.
My oshi has just over 1k subs and she is the most one view of one views and practically never streams. I can only imagine its just Vtweeters crying over this.
I stream on occasion and only get the occasional watcher. I'd never notice this unless it was pointed out.The real problem is why isn't anyone subscribing. YouTube can't find 1k people to subscribe to a channel?
>>107179009HOLY KEK
just show booba and you'll meet the threshold
>>107179009what's the viewer limit?
>>107179009HOLOGODS WIN AGAIN
>>107179009>if you're a small content streamerno one ever said this, if anything people would say twitch was better if you're a small streamer.
>>107179009youtube is better because I'm perma banned from twitch for making a joke about elon musk and pissing off a random staff member, so I can never appeal or reinstate my account ever
>>107180077Based
>>107179945win what? i just look at their stock price and it's a big lol
>>107179150If you can't get 1000 subs you weren't going to make it. I uploaded a single video of some PoE gameplay a decade ago and I have over 250 subs.
>>107180077Honestly based (on your part).
>>107179009Channel with lower than 1000 subs might as well as don't exist,
>>107179009No one has ever said this. Theres way more small content streamers on twitch because it's far more community based and the raiding system is often used by bigger vtubers to promote smaller vtubers. YouTube is reserved mostly for the corpo vtubers because it has a much bigger reach in general.
this is good because it disincentivizes viewbotting
>>107179475>oshi>she has 1 viewer>never streamsAre you also her manager perhaps?
>>107179009In a competition between a poojeet and a probable sex-offending hippie loser that doesn't do any real work, everyone loses.
>>107179009>stop wasting our bandwidth if you're not big enough to make us moneyThat's basically what youtube is saying
>>107179009Okay but can we also talk about how the latest YouTube app update completely removed livestream time elapse counters for some stupid reason?
>>107179144Phase*. Holo is the has-been corpo. Sorry brony
>>107180077Twitch seems like the last place that would simp for Elon but I guess I'm mistaken?
>>107181321>>107180682>>107180313The link between subscribers and (video) viewers is already pretty weak, I can imagine the link between subs and livestream viewers is even weaker. If someone is interesting enough to hit 30 viewers, driving people away because of an arbitrary cap just makes it harder to hit that arbitrary cap
>>107181321Billion dollar company and the biggest video service worldwide can't afford bandwidth for streams? Grim
>>107181644former OG ceo and a bunch of the dudes still there from the pre amazon days were all in on web3 and ai so they'd probably be the type to like him that same ceo almost took over openai when sam got kicked
>>107181321seems more like an antibotting measure, but still horribly misplaced. there's gotta be better ways to handle this, this seems incredibly shortsighted.
>>107181659That's why you grow with videos and shorts at first.
>>107179144Shiori existence proves you wrong
>>107182223No amount of unicuck seething will change the fact Shiori made it past the vibe check and not one of your whores who are flinging google dockeys at eachother atm
>>107179009Youtube is hololive's streaming platform
I uploaded a few shitty clips like a like a year ago and got over 1k subs. If some vtuber struggles to reach 1k subs, they were never going to make it anyway.
>>10717992930 lol
>>107183045>minus 2 in the last monthYou fell off, clipper-kun
>>107181825They literally can't, youtube has never been profitable, that's why google subsidizes it.
>>107181242One view not one viewer.
>>107179009why did this bitch get a selen model
>>107183045
>>107181095Only numberfags care about viewbotting
>>107179009this is subscribe bait
>>107181095Just adds an extra step of having to sub bot before you view bot which is what those crypto scammer and spiderman/Elsa channels do. It's only an annoyance for legit channels really
>>107179144Anon, Holo doesn't hire literal whos, you need to succeed (to some degree) as an indie first
I've literally never seen a single person try to argue that YT is better for 2view indies unless they were a braindead corpo bootlicker that doesn't actually know *why* everyone that started out with the hololive LARP migrated to twitch over the course of 2021/2022.
>>107182223The argument "you'd be in hololive if you were worth watching" doesn't mean "everyone in hololive is worth watching"... Take a logic class or something, retard.
>>107184359What the fuck are you talking about? People say that shit here all the time, including the /asp/ies
>>107184505>unless they were a braindead corpo bootlicker that doesn't actually know *why* everyone that started out with the hololive LARP migrated to twitch over the course of 2021/2022.
>>107184596Fine, go be a retard in the sea of 2views on twitch pretending circlejerk raiding can dig you out with no algorithm and no long term vods.
>>107179009If you have this problem. Maybe you should stop botting yourself
>>107179150>to curb harmful broadcasts like mass shootingsAh yes the broadcast is the harmful part. Surely.
>>107179009the reason this exists is to stop bad actors from streaming something against tos like some guy announcing his suicide on 4chan and streaming it and getting 500 views o algo
>>107179144How does Yagoo's anus taste like?
>>107182223Shiori > all ligwhores even if she's a whore
>>107185863undercooked fish and vinegared rice
>>107183264Stop repeating stuff from the early 2010s, youtube has been profitable for over a decade
>>107179009meanwhile on twitch>you have to leech and suck JMF cock to get out of 1view hell
>>107182223Prove me Shiori isn't worth watching.
>>107186723They just sad their lig whores couldnt get pass the vibe check
Still not watching Twitch because as a casual viewer the platform sucks absolute fucking dicks.
>>107184359If you are nobody on Youtube your only concern seems to be "wah only up to 30 people can watch me at once below 1k subs". Youtube will at least try to randomly recommend you to people from time to time.On twitch you are getting NO VIEWS because you are the fucking bottom of the list of livestreams where no one checks. Ludwig tried streaming on a new account as an experiment and he got like 1 pity viewer at some point.
>>107179009If you have less than 1000 subscribers you would never have over 1000 live viewersStop botting.
>>107188784The limit is 30, but yeah, I don't see many people under 1000 subs hitting even that consistently enough where it's an issue. If you are getting 30+ live viewers you should probably be well over a couple thousand subs at the very minimum.
>>107188698>where no one checksI check, that's where the groomeable 2 views areYou gotta be careful though, once I found an actual 15 year old and noped out I groom vtubers, not actual children
>>107189244I mean, that's even worse when only people like you check.
>>107179009>Something that existed for 15 yearsWhy do retards always discover old things thinking it's new?
Then just get more subscribers?Kek people are so fucking stupid
>>107184857It's the part that is harmful to youtube. The other part is someone else's problem.
>>107184857>>107189839 Kick already had literal psychopaths doing actual crimes on there for views but I think they put a stop to that.
Mass reporters must be talking full advantage of this retarded ai.
>>107179009test
>>107189244based groomerGAWDlast time I checked I found some teen too, I didn't say anything but she already knew what was up just from seeing me enter her chat
>>107179009Grim.
>>107188698>click on "sort by viewers">it's sorted by viewers>get madsmartest youtubegod
Youtube constantly recommends me 1 views, I don't click any of them, but they do.I think getting consistent 30 views is way harder than 1000 subs. People are just mad they can't bot their new channel.
>>107190264Did you stay?
>>107191574just for about 5 minutes, mostly to tell her game audio was muted, then went away the moment she got it fixedI haven't dumpster dived on twitch since then lol
>>107179009Streaming is expensive and YouTube is much, much bigger then all other streaming platforms combined. They have a lot of bot channels spamming streams (watched by bots) which is a net negative to their cost, so they implement this to counter that. Sucks for small creators but it's pretty logical.
>>107189244>>107191663How do you groom a 1/2 view?
>>107179009They used to not allow it at all, right? It's just to cut down on bots and shit
Vtuber should go to kick
>>107191765Streaming is not expensive for YouTube at all.
>>107179009They had a long time to fix all the bots but they didn’t
>>107179150How awful
>>107193901livestreaming 1080p/1440p with low latency with their volume of users is insanely expensive, they just keep it as a value service to keep people on youtube and to funnel money into google cloud, it's no different to what amazon does with twitch and aws
>>107198907There is a nonzero pressure for Youtube to turn a profit. They don't need it, but they've been asked to make changes to that effect repeatedly.
>>107179009don't forget if the AI decides you broke a rule then you're done
>>107201878it wouldn't be so bad if they would lift the bans, but the workload is too high for humans to reasonably handle
>>107180077Your ass was banned by the sole non-deranged lefty on twitch who liked Elon, kek.
>>107179009>Upload a short talking about the most random retarded shit or just bait>Get 10k subs in a day>Can stream now
>>107179009you literally have to be streaming for the first time or not a be a streamer at all in order to not know this.
>>107188540I disagree.As a casual viewer it's far better than Youtube. Youtube's livestreaming fucking sucks both as a creator and a viewer.
>>107179009streaming on pomf if better anyway
>>107181644depending on when that anon was banned I believe itreddit liberal types had a literal cult around elon during the 10s
>>107193791Kick is full of scum
>>107212339Perfect
>>107198907funny you mention 1440p streamson youtube, it's a non-issueon twitch, both the chuuba and you have to be in select countries to be able to watch 1440p streams, and if you're not? fuck you, no 1080p for you, only 720p or lower. yes, this includes most of Europe, too.
>>107209274pomf is dogshit. Its just artists drawing lolis. Even if you like loli, why the fuck would you want to sit there and watch some jackass draw?
>>107220443it is not limited to only that, they also play loli eroge
>>107179009Nobody has ever said this. Twitch has always been superior for nobodies because there's at least a possibility that someone will find you or someone will raid you. Streaming on youtube when you're unknown is just gambling and praying that the algorithm decides to show people your videos.
>>107221473lol. lmao even. you will get numbers on youtube if you follow a consistent schedule. meanwhile, on twitch: >>107186468
>>107181321This is unironically why Youtube don't give a flying fuck about most people - they don't make them money.The less transactions Google need to make, financially, the less they lose.If they are sending money to bigger creators less frequently, the less they lose.They don't give a fuck unless you're in the millions or with a company who has talents collectively in those numbers.Youtube has been hellbent on trying to make a profit and pissing off smaller creators was one of those moves.Making higher quality HD streams premium was another.
>>107221842That's not at all how it works. There are people on youtube who have been making videos consistently for nearly 20 years who still only see double and rarely triple digit views on their videos aside from an extremely rare handful that have a notable spike due to getting algorithm'd.
>>107221953don't move the goal post, we were talking about streaminguploads are an entirely different matter, and twitch doesn't even let you have a permanent vod archive, let alone standard uploads
>>107222502No goal post was moved you retard. What you're trying to say is objectively false. Discoverability on youtube is fucking abysmal. This is a known fact. Every single person actually involved in the industry will tell you this.
>>107221953I've been streaming on YouTube for a few years (2 or 3). As far as gaining subscribers it's awful across the board. I don't think it's possible to be successful on YouTube Twitch or anywhere else.I'm lucky I just do it as a side hobby
>>107179009https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9228390?hl=enThis literally only applies if you're streaming from your phone. Just stream from your PC like a normal streamer.
>>107223933So in other words this is just protection against people who do stupid shit like live stream their suicide or whatever other dumbass behavior would cause a nobody to suddenly gain a massive influx of viewers. Youtube is 100% in the right here.
>>107179009Most dont say that
>>107223933This is important
>>107179009it's over
>>107179009when is midas gonna show her gold nipples and butthole
>>107233449what
>>107179009Fake
