>>107261327
Why is it called the party clique?

>>107262772
because haachama talked about not being invited for some party.

>>107262772
They're the people that are usually present at the occasional parties at Subaru's, Mio's or someone else's place. Several of these members talk about how they met up with many of the others and ate food together.

what the fuck is the koyori corps

>>107261327
imagine the power miko will have inside hololive once she wins the game awards something that pekora couldn't win

>>107263519
Ambitious but less popular holos who have personal goals and just try to get along with everyone to make the most out of every connection they have. They try their best to not cause trouble for others even if they end up in flames themselves sometimes.
They would be in the party group if they got invited, but they didn't.

>Pekora
>Marine
>Korone
I think the out group might be stronger than the in group.

Lamy is literally part of the party clique and korone is neutral although a bit more likely to graduate given recent developments

>>107263806
Marine is weak as shit now. She hasn't done anything relevant in almost two years.
Just today she basically said she's only in hololive because there's nothing outside of it and she won't come back to streaming because she is tired after work.

>>107263809
Korone has been friendly with the EN branch and even got closer to Gura before the latter left, promising to take her to Disneyland. So likely not part of the cliche.

>>107261327
Is it just me or does this seem vaguely anti Hololive?

I'm out of the loop, since when is Flare part of the Peko group and not the Miko Fubu group? Is Sankisei no kizuna back?

>>107264276
>These people are friends and do things with each other often
>Most of the graduations are coming from one group, interesting huh?
>YOU FUCKING ANTI PIECES OF SHIT AHHHHH HOW DARE YOU SHOW ME FRIENDSHIPS COMPARED TO WHO'S LEAVE

>>107262772
Haachama said this when FBK dropped into her chat and asked about her
>Ah you were in that party (Subaru's) right?
>I don't know if Fubuki was in that party
>Its feels bweeh for me
>Things like groups and such is bweeh for me
>I don't like it
>I'm having too much fun being excluded~
>What's with that? Lame
(and yes, FBK was in that party)

>>107264363
Miko taking over Shiraken doesn't make Flare close with Miko. It actually does the opposite.

I'm surprised lot of people on this side (EN) have no idea about the party clique, it's been going for about months now in JP side.

>>107264516
The EN side (this site specifically) just denies anything hololive related they perceive as a negative and scream schizo, falseflag or their favorite other vtuber group boogeyman.
It's hard to tell if they know and are just in denial/damage control mode or if they really do not know because acting like a retard in all situations is the norm here.

Can someone explain to me why not inviting people from your workplace who you aren't even friends with to your parties is supposed to be a bad thing?

>>107261327
Is there any reason to these groups or did they just throw a coin?

>>107264770
cronyism. attaching yourself to the right people gives you benefits others won't

>>107264770
There's clearly something else going on other than them just being friends when new people who weren't friends with the group before before get invited.

>>107264846
Such as?

>>107261327
>It's been put together by some schizos on 2ch but surely it carries SOME credibilty, right?

>>107261327
>>107262989
shouldn't Azki also be part of the party clique, by that metric?

>>107264984
Is she at the parties? I don't think I've ever heard of her being there.

>>107265011
Well Korone is definitely at the parties. Don't think that is the criteria. It just came to some faggot in a dream.

>>107265056
>Well Korone is definitely at the parties.
Is she? I haven't heard of her being there either.
You're just trying to lump these two in because so much of their gen is also there, aren't you?

>>107264383
>this group I arbitrarily defined has more graduated members than this other group I also arbitrarily defined
That's nuts

>>107264516
Is there a place with translated discussions about the JP discussions on topics like this?

>>107265097
Nta but I'm guessing Korone gets lumped in because she is apart of the Fubuki friend group that got a lot of pull early on. No idea what the case is now.

>>107261327
lol this is such bullshit when Korone is very close to Miko and Okayu, she even went to one of their parties. Hell Vivi and Su also went to one of their parties at Suisei's house before.

>>107265097
She is. Here's her at Subaru's party:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATZT3i_yA18
There was also one of her consoling Migo at some other party, etc.

>>107265185
Noel and Su both being in "resistance" to Shuba should be a big clue it's complete bullshit.

this is just like captain america civil war

>>107265192
Korone and Vivi went to Suisei's Christmas party last year too https://youtu.be/nMG0a0S2J0k. You can bet the one who made that pic in the op doesn't even watch hololive

>>107261327
There's one person in this image who had 3 separate 3D event streams on their channel this year. Hint, it wasn't one of the "favored" members.

>>107264865
I mean if we want to use a situation Kanata got in as an example, I bet none of them would have had undermanned projects.

>>107261327
Where's the rest? Is there a 4th team?

>>107262989
so who are "resistance" then?

>>107261327
Why isn’t Luna in the party clique if Subaru is there?

>Divide chuubas into a couple random groups
>Watch retards argue the placements
Sounds fun, I'll go make my own

>>107264865
Being invited to big collabs and group projects that rake in a shit ton of money. Also, being able to shill your merch to a much bigger audience. Its been kinda the case for a while that the only way to really grow as a streamer is by attaching yourself to someone with a bigger audience. Vtubing isnt really any different.
>>107264770
It normally wouldnt, the issue is that friend groups and work groups/career advancement tread an almost invisible line here. Being friends with the big streamers means being part of the big collabs, the big projects, merch, sponsorships, etc. The line between a friend and a coworker just doesnt exist in corporate vtubing, if you are a 3k average holomen and you collab with Subaru, Pekora or Miko who average 30k is huge.

>>107264363
Gen 3 unity was always overstated. it's literally only Marine/Pekora, Marine/Flare, and Noel/Flare.

I will say this much.
For how female dominated vtubing is,
very surprising (pleasantly so) of how little Holodrama there has been in regards to interpersonal stuff that is public.
There are obviously the usual suspects (Peko/Miko and Matsuri) and the memes (Kronii/Fauna and Gura/Biboo),
the whole Rushia affair, whatever happened there?

But for the most part it never really went beyond some mild passive aggressiveness. Or so it would seem.
One has to wonder if they have some sort of /pw/tier locker room politicking going on

>>107265472
Luna is just in her own world. Literally give 0 fucks to everything except Lunaitos.

>>107265470
I don't know because I don't agree with that grouping.

>>107264408
>get invited
>don't go
>get messages
>ignore them for over a year
I am being isolated

>>107265598
>they have some sort of /pw/tier locker room politicking going on
They probably have. But the main advantage of hololive is that they seem to be really good at managing their talents so that no actual drama actually occurs. The most we have seen in hololive is en talents complaining about managers or perms or general lack of support for projects. But even this seems to be disappearing now that so many of the EN members live in Japan or travel to Japan so incredibly frequently. It really isnt a coincidence.

>>107265583
>it's literally only Marine/Pekora, Marine/Flare, and Noel/Flare.
It was Marine, Flare and Noel together for the longest time while Pekora wasn't really close to anyone. Now Marine has distanced herself from everyone and Pekora has started being more co-operative

>>107265598
The faggotry of their fans compensates for that in spades. As you can see ITT. Fucking gossip central.

>>107265670
Kanata is literally graduating complaining about managers right now, anon

>>107263519
Koyori and her girlfriends.

>>107265598
You missed the whole Haachama debacle and Nene's earlier stream after Kanata graduation announcement?

>>107265598
>the whole Rushia affair, whatever happened there?
you're misusing the quote. it wasn't a question, it was a dismissive summary

>>107265724
Well, I guess its for the most part then. Overall Hololive is relatively yab free, especially compared to other big corpos.

>>107261327
The Peko vs Miko war was funny back in 2020 but now it has been taken outside the games and it's quite sad.

>>107265791
>yabfree
bro we have constant mega jabs, the company is BARELY staying afloat, expect mass graduations again next year.

>>107265770
I switched it at the last moment because I started thinking about Phil's reaction and started doubting myself

>>107265011
she's been mentioned in the "went out to eat with" anecdotes.

>>107265895
Not really, a mega yab is what happened with Selen in Niji, it is what happened with Vshojo. Even the biggest yabs holo has had, like Rushia or the China debacle, resulted in holo walking away almost entirely unscathed. Rushia turned out to be a walking yab and the china thing was mostly just china being retarded.

>>107265464
That's everyone this faggot has heard off

>>107261327
It’s an all women’s workforce, of course there’s gonna be cliques and shit. Though on the other hand, the males in the company seem even further apart in general than the girls are with each other. I think it’s just the nature of the industry, they are all contract workers so it’s not like they’re seeing each other everyday in the office. Someone like Pekora probably would’ve melted down by now if she wasn’t so used to being alone anyway, but then you see people like Haachama who need that interaction and validation. Just sad to see, there’s gonna continue to be more graduations next year.

>>107265804
This. They should solve any erupting conflicts with violence. In minecraft. Or rust. Or whatever other game they want. Turn it into content, now that would be a professional approach.

>>107265969
That's not a party. She herself invites people out.

>>107265804
Nene really hit the nail with what she said earlier even though she didn't explicitly name them.
>Relationship so bad that you don't even fight anymore

Where do Shishiron, Nenecchi, Banchou and Kanade fit in?

>>107266006
There are going to be graduations every year now, it's natural.

>>107265995
You’re so retarded

>>107265995
we literally have mega yabs rolling constantly bro

>Okayu and Korone in separate groups
How stupid do you have to be to believe this?

>>107266055
How is that bad? Between coworkers. They are not a big happy family, no matter what they want you to believe.

>>107266075
Nobody fits in, it's all made up. Most of those people belong in both parties. Marine for example is just as at home in either group despite supposedly being co-leader of her group. Noel also plays in both groups. Korone is almost exclusively in the opposite group.

Azki being in the Pekora group makes sense until you think, where the fuck does Iroha go. Because you can't separate her from Azki but she sure as shit can't be against Micomet. Su being against Subaru? Watame would obviously be with Miko but does that mean Botan's against her with Pekora? Sheer retardation.

>>107266036
well, that's how that one poster described the parties.

>>107266196
Because of those famous Pekkorone24 streams, obviously.

>>107266204
Well some of them are closer than others, especially having connections before even joining Hololive. So to see an obvious long term friendship, Peko/Miko, turn from what it used to be to now is pretty telling. Hell even Pekora/Aqua too, and they only rekindled because of Aqua graduating.

>>107261327
How do foreign auxiliaries like Bae, Mori, FWMC fit in?

>>107266354
But that's not the same thing. They always talk about meeting up with many other holos at the same time, and that it was a party where they ate food. That's never the case with azki.

>>107266204
And that's exactly the problem, it's their job to sell the illusion that they're a big happy family.
Them not coming to terms with it is pretty bad for the whole atmosphere. Like either make up or become each others' nemesis, it's content either way. Not this Cold War vibe where they just refuse to acknowledge the other existence.

>>107265563
Miko and Lui cross-stream with each other literally all the fucking time. Lui will never stop being one of the runts of Hololive. Roboco gets to be in a gen with four of the biggest names in the company, it will never boost her popularity. Aqua had Suisei personally fighting in her corner, she still bitched out. Vivi was the biggest leech of Flow Glow and yet she's finally dropped from being the fourth place in relevance for the gen down to fifth.

>Marine in the out group
>Noel in the out group
>Wammy in the out group
>Vivi in the out group
>Korone in the out group

Okay so, Marine goes straight to the top.
I don't care what some anti says, shes one of the best conversationalists in Hololive and actually got a few events moving because she wasn't afraid to talk to the other party. Rinoa goes straight to the outsiders group. Not because people hate her, but because shes shy as fuck and is currently working on approaching people better.

Mio goes straight into Koyori's group, since she tries her best to get along with everyone. Same with Azki and Vivi.

Koronie goes straight to the top because not only is separating her and the cat is retarded, but because she is in nearly everything Mio or Subaru or Okayu run.

Ayame goes straight to the bottom, while shes part of Mios group, she is also extremely lazy. I will give her credit because shes really trying to stream more which is nice.

Hot take: Id put Lui in Koyori's group too, she seems to want to be friends with everyone as well.

There the list is less retarded now, glad I could help someone with my proper autism.

>>107266421
>it's their job to sell the illusion that they're a big happy family
It's not? They don't have to interact with each other at all, outside their gen maybe. It just helps the growth, usually.
>become each others' nemesis
Holo wouldn't let them do that for real. Neither would the fans.

>>107266421
Yeah this is the main problem with it, and it just limits content. Pekora and Miko acting like the other literally doesn’t exist and forcing the company and other talents to work around their feud with each other, is so pathetic. Especially since they are easily the top 2 streamers in the company

>>107266561
Marine hasn't done shit in years. She is in the out group because she went there herself.

>>107266561
You've misunderstood is completely, it's supposed to be "these are the people who control Hololive" at the top and "these are the victims" at the bottom. Most of your claims about who should move are still reasonable but it has nothing to do with being sociable or introverted. Marine has to be with Pekora because she's Pekora's only friend. It doesn't matter that she's friends with the people on the other side as well.

>>107266561
lui gets invited to all the miko clique events and koyori and lui hate each other

>>107265598
>Gura/Biboo
Mostly pushed by a schizo /here/. And as early as Biboo's debut . Not sure if it's the Gura killer schizo using another talent like did with Kobo or someone from Bijou's team grudge posting on her behalf to try to steal Gura's fanbase or some other petty thing.

>>107266568
Pekora being in the Top 2 is a stretch. Top 5 sure. Only Pekora pretends Miko doesn't exist, it has never been a problem the other way. That's kinda the most infamous part about it.

>>107265182
>I'm guessing
so you dont watch hololive? Got it

>>107266568
Is there really any evidencethat they are on bad terms or is this all just a /vt/ rrat like so many other things?

>>107266670
What about all the missing people then? The "bullies" specifically target certain people and leave others alone?
Don't try to find patterns in other people's schizophrenia.

>>107266760
It's a 2ch rrat. Same shit but JP

>>107266696
Koyori is another weird one and is clearly split out because she originally tried to pretend she was a Miko fan, then betrayed her for Pekora and then got betrayed by Pekora and is back to being nice with Miko. If she gets her own faction, so should almost every Holo but that destroys the idea there are cliques.

>>107264516
Who the fuck cares, is not like EN even cares what goes in JP
Also for better or worse EN is more unified than JP side

>>107263519
My hag harem.

>>107266561
Marine might have the social skills, but that doesn't mean she's that close to all those people.

>>107266845
You don't get it, trannies need their hot gossip. It's a part of CGDLGBT experience.

>>107261327
Who invited Towa...

>>107266760
There's more evidence than there is for just about anything. It's not some secret. JP's care about it way more than anyone here. You can't watch Hololive and be unaware of it. The part that is very much in question is what the extent of the "bad terms" means. People disagree on whether Pekora's just being petty or has legitimate beef, whether they are secretly friendly behind the scenes or whether this is actually the professional way to handle it instead of fighting out in the open. Because little things that don't make sense throw things off, like the times they suddenly can be friendly out of nowhere in HoloGTA for fifteen minutes and then immediatley go back to avoidance.

Ain't no party like a Suisei party.

>>107266006
Men are much more individual compared to women. As you say it's not strange at all that cliques have formed between the JP girls since you cannot be asked to get along with 30+ other girls all the time.
The bigger issue is that some of them have way too much sway over company decisions

>>107265673
Marine and Noel were never particularly close.

>>107267126
You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>107267030
People disagree and there are a lot of little things that don't make sense because this entire rrat is pure mental illness of some mikopiss and nousagi.

>>107267019
Blud thinks she's on the team

>>107267178
You sound like a schizo when you just pretend all of reality doesn't exist just because you don't like it. You couldn't even point out who Pekora or Miko are in a line-up.

>>107261327
I think there should be a fourth group. NePoLaBo Neutrality Neighborhood

>>107261327
>PARTY CLIQUE
you claimed youself a noufagi
fuck off and die

>>107266310
bro
its just co-workers lmao its not that deep

>>107261327
>PARTY CLIQUE
you claimed yourself a noufagi
fuck off and die

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>>107261327
the parallels are uncanny

>>107267281
>my schizo ramblings are reality
typical 35piss

>>107261327
In what world do Niko and Chihaya have more influence than Pekora or Korone?

I blame Mio. While she's all for harmony and peace, she's also the type that tries to put a small group tight knit while excluding potentially problematic members (in her view).

>>107267290
Everyone except for Pekora in her group would be neutral.

>>107267384
>I drink my own cum
Is this really something you need to be confessing to strangers?

In my expert observation the party clique was originally and instinctively created to exclude Marine and Pekora, but since those two have large fanbases on their own, Cover cant ignore those two. Just people like Aqua, Shion, Haachama and Ao get hit in the crossfire. People in the party clique gets preferential treatment (sololives, company events and promotions, bonuses).

>>107265598
Most is keep under the wraps, you only see it when it comes out of it. It’s really a difference of cultures, asian cultures love to destroy them from the inside and quietly, while others love to just take advantage of the drama for themselves

>>107261327
>a literal anti poster twitter screencap who shits on >holopigs even on their profile description
how the fuck is this thread even still up, I wonder?

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>>107265598
>One has to wonder if they have some sort of /pw/tier locker room politicking going on
If it's a wrestler's court type of situation, who's the Undertaker of Hololive?

>>107265653
Well, the resistance can't party themselves for... some reason.

>>107267516
Kek, seethe more.
Why does Miko tends to attract the lowest of scum in the community, both JP and kaigai? Truly a mystery, she herself seems alright.

>>107267178
only pure mental illness person is you, a garbage piss scum trash nousagi

>>107267640
>>107267629

>>107266760
Nobody knows the real reason, I will say that the usual shit excuse of “oh the fans took shipping them too far”, is certainly not it. Because the way that they went from being best friends to how they’ve been the past what 3-4 years at this point, something must have happened between them. I think Miko tried taking their friendship to a serious lvl because she thought Pekora felt that way about her with how much she teased her, but that’s just Pekora’s way of showing affection like she does with Vivi and a few of the other members she’s comfortable with.

>>107266734
If you get thrown by that you can just admit it's an ESL problem anon.

>>107267608
Polka

>>107266204
While I think you're right for the most part, it's clear that some of them are genuinely close friends. SubaTowa, MiComet, FubuMio, and OkaKoro come to mind.

>>107266386
Mori is a member of miko and suisei clique thats why she gets better sponsorship than the others holoen girls

>>107267030
So which of them were more friendly with the graduated talents? Yeah they can't be close to everyone but there would be signs.

>>107267166
they're not really any closer than any other random two genmates.

>>107267629
>Truly a mystery
No mysteries, it's all in the probabilities. If you have 5x more fans, there's a 5x chance some of them are retarded faggots. And you only see retarded faggots in places like here.

>>107266696
>koyori and lui hate each other
QRD? I've seen this rrat before, but I'm not aware of any backstory for it.

Cliques are tolerable to be honest. But having a certain group favored immensely isn't. Obviously the biggest problem in Hololive now is neglect and restrictive NDA. For example, Kanata wasn't allowed to seek help with other members when struggling with the project assigned to her. I think that's diabolical. Cover going public-corporate was a mistake since Chink investors managed to infiltrate in.

>>107267785
They moved into the same apartment building and Noel often took care of Marine when the latter was sick even before that.

>>107267807
They had the same neglect and restrictive NDAs before going public. Stop fighting boogiemen.

>>107267934
Chink detected. You shouldn't be allowed to use VPN.

>>107267652
I believe Miko's account because once you stop doing business with Pekora you're as good as dead for her.

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>>107261327
Fubuki: "negligible"

>>107268080
PekoMoon T_T
PeBoT T_T
Pekorone T_T
PekoSuba T_T
AkuPeko T_T

>>107268095
I don't trust this stupid sounding shitbitch. I wish she was nowhere near my oshis.

>>107268095
It is negligible though. As long as they avoid the drama. Which includes saying it's negligible.

>>107267807
You posted in the wrong thread, the thread about how investors are mad Cover doesn't do what they want so the stock keeps falling is over here >>107250207

How does EN fit into this divide? I have been completely oblivious to anything like this going on, but then again I mostly just watch the EN girls.

>>107268282
Nowhere. Mori has and always will be an exotic novelty to the holomems. ENs like bae and fuwamoco who try to attach themselves to the ankles of JPs will never be truly let into the inner circles.

>>107268282
They don't.

>>107267781
You seem to have replied to the wrong post. Nothing you are saying follows. But if you actually want to know who was closest to the former Holos:
>Miko has Mel, Haato, Rushia, Coco, Kanata, Ao. You could even throw in Ame.
>Pekora has Aqua and Shion if you want to squint and pretend that her farming them after graduation makes up for the fact they weren't friends while they worked together.
>Nobody cared about Chloe.

>>107267716
Gigi is adjacent through Mori which explains all of her sponsorships and why she's pushed hard as well. It wouldnt surprise me if she even throws the other Justice members under the bus to get her bag. She's the reason Raora will graduate next.

>>107268387
I always see this list as “Miko’s friends vs Marine’s friends,” because honestly, Pekora barely has any friends.

>>107261327
Yagoo will let himself get pegged on live television before letting Pekora and Marine leave lol. Holo would be pretty much done then.

>>107268612
And Miko is one of Marine's friends.

>>107266544
>she's finally dropped from being the fourth place in relevance for the gen down to fifth.
Delusional

>>107268962
It's true Riona's rise will likely be very short-lived but it did happen.

>>107261327
THE RESISTANCE ? lmao
let's correct the group, shall we ?
put Pekora alone below
flare, noel, marine, lamy, kanata, ao always hang out together
korene close to okayu and migo
su close to subaru
>why vivi not with pekora ??
vivi now like Koyori who always follow pekora before pekora backstab her from behind

>>107265724
>Kanata is literally graduating complaining about managers right now
So no timestamp

>>107268986
isn't Vivi more popular than Su?

>>107267568
Your "expert" opinion is retarded. You say the party clique gets preferential treatment, but Pekora alone had a whole year dedicated to her for the Human Rabbitality Project, a project planned by the management. https://rabbit-plan.hololivepro.com/en/

>>107266421
>cold war is when.yku din't acknowledge each other
sasuga retard

>>107269153
just read the announcement you fucking illiterate mongoloid retard

>>107269222
By what metric? Subs-wise Vivi is right in the middle below Su and Niko and above Riona and Chihaya.

>>107268709
Delusional. Marine and Pekora need Hololive more than Hololive needs them

>>107268986
That's true but pretending that Vivi was the least popular is retarded

>Literal schizo rant
"Surely it carries some credibility". XD

>>107269225
Ignore anyone who tries to argue that Miko gets preferential treatment. They live in their own reality, you won't be able to convince them otherwise even with all of the proof. Miko's antis and moderately succeeded in pushing this narrative, sadly.

>>107269303
No timestamp? Got it

>>107265185
Dramafags always get their schizo material by creating bullshit. What else is new

>>107268992
oui oui pain au chocolat emmanuel macron

>>107261327
Didn't Pekora have her own clique that fell apart because she was only using them to boost her numbers? Look at Usaken, Pebot, and PekoMoon and now she's avoiding Koyori. It seems she is the problem. Sankisei is only functioning because Marine is still around

>>107268992
ao's the cancer, that's the point. We need chuubas like koyori and okayu, but marine's too much of an menhera to commit to their kind of chuuba style. Senchou's the next one to graduate, she gonna go back to some kinda black company so she can support her menhera lesbian companion lmfao

>>107265766
i haven't seen anything on the log about nene today, what was this?

>>107261327
Uh oh…
https://x.com/vjbkoq1ehghdtri/status/1995892763360198736

>>107270695
Antis always go on about preferential treatment but nobody ever lists what preferential treatment Miko is getting

>>107270621
Supposedly Nene mentioned Hololive is looking more like a "girls school" these days

>>107268610
Honestly if the loud = funny member was getting all the deals because she sucked the dick of the insecure rapper, I would wanna peace out too. I just wouldn't want to play nice and continue to get sexpested for jokes because that's her schitck.

>>107265689
>their fans compensates for that in spades
You think their fans are the ones who make/post in these types of threads? lmao

>>107270831
Because it's only a narrative. They know Pekora is getting more preferential treatment, like the unlimited use of the 3D studio, but they'll never talk about it because it doesn't fit their agenda.

>>107267716
She gets better sponsorships because she is part of UMG and has the most subs in EN not because she's friends with Suisei.

You people are making a whole lot of something outta nothing in this stupid thread, huh

>>107271306
why yes, people who aren't you do have thoughts that don't align with yours.
back to your tower, champ.

>>107271327
lol, struck a nerve, huh?

>>107271021
She had a good talk with Pekora about this right after Haachama cut loose on stream. Wasn't clipped iirc

>>107271346
i mean, you're still here, so i must have.

>>107267608
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm pekora, you don't want to mess with her mmmmmmmmm

>>107268095
view same

>>107267344
>fat
>bitch
>corpo apologist
true enough

>>107261327
why are towa, niko, chihaya and suu in party clique?

>>107271371
nene is "aligned" with peko then?

>>107261327
Here say no more
Preferential treatment from the management to Pekora finally explained
https://i.imgur.com/EK5McvP.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/s8qixvu.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/B2zjKMG.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/8Cl9RiF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gwsI1fC.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/QceKVcH.jpeg

he is Cover's VP of Licensing Business responsible for Sales department https://jp.linkedin.com/in/taro-kamochi

>>107272695
>nene is "aligned" with peko then?
I'm not nearly that schizo to see the world in such simple terms. Just go watch the stream if you're curious, anon. I give you permission to use your brain to the fullest. Best of luck.

>>107272835
is there a mirror bongs?

>>107261327
Not now noupagpag
Mikochi fits the character and is PON, so Hagrid

is based on fact,

Hachaama:Hagrid...
Hachaama:Hagrid is Mikochi, he has a kind heart
Hachaama:He loves all magical creatures and is the keeper of Hogwarts' keys and grounds (reading Hagrid's description)
Hachaama:Wow, that's perfect!
Hachaama:(Hagrid) is PON! Actually
Hachaama:I'll write it as PON

https://www.youtube.com/live/ilUQFnrOuUY?t=14m01s
https://www.youtube.com/live/egpHivusivI?t=16m12s
Hachaama:(Pekora) Draco Malfoy (shudders
Hachaama:I'm home~
Hachaama:Huh? Is the stream on? lol Can't you hear the sound? Shudders
Hachaama:It's a radio wave attack lol
End

>>107272871
going by that neeky tone of of yours, I'm take it as a yes

>>107272695
>Towa
Go back

>>107273042
I've never dilated albeit

>>107273036
The actual translation is that I think you're a dramafagging retard, sorry to have to be so blunt. Want me to link the stream? You'll have to speak JP or run the transcript through translation and fix the funky bits. Here you go, around 50min in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRuV8LxIRNo

This is the reason why A-chan quit
https://nijihorosokue.com/archives/50861
April 2022: After the office relocation (bright atmosphere, micomet on the board)
https://imgur.com/a/g32v15d
July 2022: "Is this a problem with subcontracting creators?" "Is she joining the company?" (Dark circles under her eyes, a clouded expression that has completely changed in three months, and the agency and its employees)
https://imgur.com/a/Hdi5SB9
January 2023: "The rabbit plan begins~" (The whiteboard is transformed into a bulletin board, with the micomet mark erased). The coffee stains on the cups create a particularly gloomy atmosphere (a particularly elaborate scene in the music video).
https://imgur.com/a/EmWg92c
Pekora is the culprit
From Achan,Ao now to hachaama

>>107272695
The person who made the chart obviously has never watched any of these people but if you watched a single stream you can see why the AI told him to put each one in the box there in, minus one or two completely hallcuinated ones. Chihaya and Lui regularly cross-stream with Miko. Chihaya and Towa participate in the group collabs with all those other members. Towa's handler is Suisei. I don't know who you think Suu is but Su is in the Resistance. Niko definitely makes no sense, she's not in either faction. She avoids Miko onstream if anything, they just have a special bond from when she started do to the antis trying to create drama with her but Pekora is the one she's done a one-on-one collab with before Pekora dropped her.

>>107270831
He literally says in those comments she's been getting preferential treatment from the start. That the failed Sakura Miko Project that got dissolved and folded into Hololive was her getting preferential treatment. It's always hilarious when antis tell on themselves so openly.

>>107273224
Su's been very active with Haachama and sent her a supportive message in October, pretty sure she got scolded by management for that. She earned points with me for that. Queen behaviour.
https://x.com/mizumiya_su/status/1985414876781850914

>>107273118
thx I'm not dramafagging in particular, just curious

>>107273224
I see and yh I meant why is su "resistance"


>>107273368
nice to see su made good on replying again after the first deletion

>>107273224
He’s still better than the anon you’re replying to, lmao.
Towa is way closer to SubaMio and Suisei. They hang out all the time.
The whole “clique” narrative is stupid anyway. People just want to spin the Peko/Miko beef and drag everyone else into it.

>>107273560
Cheers anon, sorry if I tagged you wrong. Emotions running high lately for obvious reasons. Take care of yourself.

>>107268387
Lap cared about Chloe...

>>107265224
it's not about the person in particular, it's about groups that can be in vague conflict. yeah, they like each other, but who does Subaru interact with more? Noel, or the people in the first category?

>>107273579
The narrative is completely focused on hating Miko if you actually glance at the antis who make this shit. They are very open about it. This particular image just uses Pekora for their premise of the Miko enemy faction because of Pekora's infamous issues with Miko. The problem is everyone else in "Pekora's faction" likes Miko. Well, maybe not Flare. Something definitely happened there where Flare hates Shiraken.

>>107261327
Okayu and Korone in separate cliques feels wrong

>>107273797
Are we going to pretend that Big 3 isn't a thing?

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>>107273612
it's no bother anon, it's been a shit asl day and /vt/ seems at war with each other most of the time these days so I'm used to it. take care x

>>107274039
they have about 20+ years of age gap
korone is too old to play silly kids games

>>107273797
But it's also random since some members are based on real-world friendships and others are from on-stream interactions. But the whole conspiracy is that this stuff is actually happening off-screen, so on-screen interactions shouldn't even be relevant since most of them have to be discarded anyway because there is no on-screen cliques since all the members regularly collab outside the supposed clique. The disregarding of on-screen content is the only logic that allows Korone to be against SMOK, OKFAMS, Gamers and Mikkorone.

>>107265653
Haachama played being menhera so long she became legitimately crazy. Many such cases.

>>107274112
Stare into the abyss too long and the abyss stares back

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>>107273579
I think ultimately it's a management thing. Cliques aren't nearly so bad unless they start getting a lot of management favoritism. A senior manager like A-Chan is literally impossible to replace, she is a founder of Hololive after all along with Yagoo and Sora. I cannot see cliques getting much traction with her, she's senior, hyper-competent and good person with good values. Weak management can destroy organizations. Ever see the panel where she failed all the contestants and took away one of their life points for not working as a team?
https://youtu.be/GGWbTqYACHw?t=1183

>>107271801
Stop insulting Pekora like that, you retard

>>107274112
boarding school was actually mental asylym in third world country so no wonder she is but unstable

>>107274079
if anything, since the hacking and the split off where holos went to tower, inter-vt drama seems down, as a whole. turns out segregating the easily offended works out for everyone!

>>107274173
Yagoo is taking all her money to fund into his illegal businesses. Rrat

>>107274249
homostars and holoearth are just to fronts to laundrel money, seems valid honestly

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>>107274176
nah I'm not biting, it's a shame my oshi's general bopped off the catalogue

>>107274482
sorry not meaning to be rude but I've seen nothing but chaos recently

>>107274482
Wasn't me anyway, cheers btw. Enough catalogfagging for me today.
>>107274176
NTA my guy. I am the easily offended. I'm doing my best though

>>107273893
Flare doesn't hate Shiraken, they did a repo stream this year. For some reason, after Shiraken completed their manga and voice drama, Sankisei was pushed more by the management. Shiraken is not a project led by management, the members themselves produced all their manga and voice drama with their own money. If Flare hated Shiraken, she wouldn't pitch in with the project.

Why don't the non-partiers just thrown their own parties?

>>107271021
Nene said that Holo ISN'T like a girls' school filled with spiteful cliques and catty behavior, but it's a fact that when you have a group as big as Hololive's, even if everyone is on good terms, some people just aren't going to have personalities that mesh.

>>107274685
What you're talking about is corporate networking, there's lots of reasons people don't do it.

>>107274103
This guy actually owned Cover shares.

>>107274593
I hear you lad, I've been on the catalog for hours today. I saw this tweet at the top of my twitter feed then popped onto youtube and saw a taso stream...

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>>107274893
>forgot pic

>>107274666
Shiraken was a Minecraft group first and foremost, Flare ended the annual Shiraken Minecraft stuff. She was the only Shiraken member who completely ghosted Micomet's Minecraft event this year. They don't do stuff together anymore, they didn't do a stream even though their manga just returned (which was a big seller in the industry as a new IP when it first released a volume a year and a half ago). There are obviously still friends within Shiraken, but Flare and Micomet specifically have done nothing outside of the Repo collab this year and the official Shiraken collab in February.

>>107274685
Because they think the other Hololive members are just their co-workers. and they're not really friends irl. If their collaborations are only for fan service, why would they spend time together off-stream?

>>107267799
Nothing deep, they just don't mesh with each other and are fine with just being coworkers.

>>107274482
>>107274517
not everyone who disagrees with you is baiting. i've been using vt since a couple months after the jp move and there's always been feuding, it's just not as bad.

>>107275004
Flare hasn’t really been playing Minecraft lately except for a few one-off events. I don’t think she’s even set foot on the new server yet. Maybe it’s just Flare being Flare.

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>>107275343
you haven't been in /#/ recently

>>107265598
Mori has mentioned in response to someone asking about joining hololive that the scouts have very high standards for members being averse to interpersonal drama, it's something they're very specific about.

>>107266696
>and koyori and lui hate each other
Fixable with hag yuri?

>>107275004
Flare didn't participate in Botan's Minecraft event either, so it could be scheduling issues. Their interaction on-stream is a rare occasion now compared to before, but there is no beef among them. Shiraken had an event at Haneda Airport this year, and Miko also interacted with Flare in Rust and briefly in Lamb Vegas. Like I said, after Shiraken's successful campaign, management pivoted and pushed Sankisei aggressively.

>>107261327
>the pekora faction against the miko faction
So it comes down to this. Once friends, now sworn enemies. And koyori is there too.

>>107262772
haachama is the weird zoomer tagalong and all the hags excluded her. Heisei only, reiwa out!

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>literally repeating anti rrats posted on matome blogs by the people who refer to all vtuber fans as "pigs" and who wish to "unmask" all vtubers

>>107264408
f it was really miko group, it would be obvious that fbk was in that party
why was haachama not sure if fbk was in that party?
Also, miko group is pretty close to haachama.
Meanwhile, it was peko has never interacted with haachama and she is the one that used haachama only when she was useful

>>107274097
what about Sonic?

Be honest anon would you want Haato in any of your parties?

>>107276290
Will she have sex with me?

>>107268325
how stupid of them to not even use EN girls to gather more fans

>>107276278
what about it?

>>107275971
>So it comes down to this. Once friends, now sworn enemies.
You can say that to anyone that Pekora interacted with over the years, except Marine

After that niji clique was confirmed real I buy it desu

>>107264408
Isn't Haachama being sarcastic about this?

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>>107276170
>it was peko has never interacted with haachama
Peko's just traumatized by losing Rushia. Look at the back of her streaming screen

>>107265670
>they seem to be really good at managing their talents
kek

>>107265670
>they seem to be really good at managing their talents
www