no
>>107363274Nimi nightmare
>>107363742Nimi isn’t as hated as Shiori, even with a fiance.
Why are you wasting your lfie hating a girl you've never met, when you could be watching and supporting your oshi instead?
People hate Shiori? Man, what goes on in the hololive echo chamber hate discord
>>107363274>Shiori is the most hated>I’m the most hatedWE ARE
>>107363804Based
>>107363833Who says you can’t express your hate for someone, while supporting your oshi?
>>107363945Oh right. I forgot Phase was a thing. Probably still mad she picked Holo over Phase.
>>107363742>Nimi nightmareFuck this ugly stupid whore. I hope she suffers a miscarriage and her husband cheats on her
>>107363274
>>107363742SPBP
>>107363274mel, yuko, starbucks cancer girl. shiori may be a bitch but she is far from one of the worst people out there.
>>107363274FWMC
>>107364448Wait, Mel is hated? As in banpire? I know about all the others but never learned anything about Mel?
>>107363274I refuse to believe anyone cares enough about Shiori to hate her
I don't think anyone hates Shiori, shes like Mori, was honest about her agenda from day 1.For genuine spite, its between Takanshi Kiara, for ruining collabs, and Ceres Fauna, for ruining the illusion.
>>107363274This is the third Shiori bait thread in the catalogue. Hate marketing really is working overtime.
>>107364812Everyone has someone they hate, and yes there are people who hate Shiori for the very reasons you listed for Kiara and Fauna
>>107363274Yes such as Vox, Rie, Clara, Enna, Nyaru, Kirsche, Pippa, that one white Vtuber that talked like a negro, all of the homoshitterENs just to name a few
>>107364812Shiori ruins every collab she is in.
>>107364720I hate her because I have to skip Advent collabs because she is obnoxious.
>>107363833Comes down to the fact that for conservatives, hate is more powerful than love and they feel more pleasure tearing someone down that supporting a loved one.Getting a lot of anti-shiori and election tourist threads today, wander what happened.
Nice deflection thread sister but Aster and Twisty still take the cake.
>>107363833Shiori I will find and rape you stop posting here
>>107364954>NijiENMost people don’t care enough to hate them anymore, they have their niche group, but no one really cares anymore other than to laugh and spill tea in drama videos.>RieWho?>ClaraThe hate lasted for 1-2 weeks, the Shiori hate has been consistent for years.>NyaruWho?>KirscheNot that many people care.>PippaMore of a 50/50 split on the love/hate spectrum
>>107364812>>107365037Not related but do you guys also think Gigi ruins collabs?
>>107365193Not for me, the only one who I hate listening to is Shiori. I know it is popular to hate ERB on here, but she is really good in collabs.
>>107365187Nobody likes Rie, but I don't think people care enough about her for it to count as hate.
>>107363274OP has an entire folder full of Shiori BBW fetish art btw
>>107365143>AsterBesides the drama, no one knew about him or cared.>TwistyIs a cute BPD cunny vtuber, I don’t think she is hated at all.
most universally hated are probably the "VTards" group but they are literal who's
>>107364448>MelHuh??? By who???>YukoWho???
>>107365296Not Yozora Mel, Nekomata Mel. A grifter
>>107365193Situational, but often yes. Her and Biboo are ill suited for horror collabs, while bae and fauna shined in them.
>>107365340Another literal who
4 Indians on /vt/ samefagging their own threads does not make anyone the most hated
>>107365187>NyaruA brown chuuba from Peru that was shilled here until anons found out she was a massive whore.
>>107364406Gooba does live rent-free in my mind :3Thanks for the reminder, anon <3
>>107365401>massive whoreHate to break it to you anons but that's literally every single woman that is single over the age of 18. Ironically enough the least whorish yet most hated chuuba is Nimi.
>>107364117Shiori is too untalented for Phase desu.
>>107365500You're wrong, anon. You can call all of them whores, but some are more than the others.
>>107365500It's not so much about them actually being whores or not, it's about forcing the viewer to confront reality instead of the kayfabe.
>>107365500whore hands typed this
>>107365668>confront realityIf they truly wanted that then they wouldn’t stream with an anime avi lol
>>107365088Also true for liberals, though there's scarcely any daylight between the two, they just hate different people.
>>107365770Pretty sure both liberals and conservies hate Shiori
>Tells you right away on debut that she will collab with men>You convince yourself she didn't actually warn you>She collabs with men>Somehow this was unpredictable
>Both sidesThose who want to avoid the blame game, are to blame.
>>107365898Never liked her, so it didn’t surprise me when she acted like a typical manipulative whore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>107365898She never actually said that and then she proceeded to encourage the parasocials in her chat until she couldn't hold back anymore and decided to go back to her NTR loving days.
>>107366002You can dislike her, it's just stupid to hate her over some presumed betrayal when it was one of the very first things she said.>>107366062What did you think "respect my collab choices" meant, chuckle nut?
>>107366121I hate her because her personality sucks.
>>107365898Yea let's pretend she didn't build up a fandom doing slightly parasocial and or gfe things for over a year. Let's also pretend that she clearly said that she's going to collab with holostars on debut.
>>107366121Why can you dumbasses ever get this right?https://youtu.be/EwGAcKnE-y4?t=2556At least quote her properly
It will never cease to amaze me how she managed to mindbreak a few little brown people to the point they have to spam threads on a nearly dead board to get (You)s
>>107366284They love her and this is their way of advertising her
>>107365898>>107366121>>107366240Why are you shifting the goal post and acting like the unicorns are the only ones who hate her, when she had outspoken haters before that ever happened?
>>107363274I like to imagine "girlfriend" is said in a thick Chinese accent.
>>107366486Thick Mexican lisp
Hyperbole is a tool for loud mouthbreathers who want to act manipulative and push their own narrative. Finding a so-called most hated chuuba is a topic rife with bias and extreme subjectivity, which you can tell when someone resorts to hyperbole to try to prove their point
>>107366657Do you think the concept of there being a most hated chuuba is hyperbole? If only there was a poll option on here, then it would be shown with votes rather than being a discussion
Yuko/Rye and Kiba/Yuri.Elira and Millie, although it is unfair at this point>>107364954>Nyaruwhat did she do?
Sayu and Shylily are annoying.
>>107366841It is hyperbole as something being discussed on /vt/If you want a genuine "final" answer you'd need to find a way to set up a public poll posted outside of /vt/ that can't easily be botted.The most realistic answer for most hated vtuber in the end will end up being whoever is the most popular but also has the most reach outside Vtubing, so it would most likely end up being either Mori, Ironmouse, or some other indie like Sinder who has had drama that reached far outside of Vtubing.
>>107365898
>>107365898That was ERB, shiori said to respect her collab choices. Lines 2 to 4 do apply, mofos still saying shit like ERB will be feminized soon then they see a thumbnail of her next to Jurard.
>>107367134ERB drew Holostars at the beginning and said they were her oshis, I don’t think she would have to say much more
>>107367003Ye, people hated her before
>>107364812You are brown
>>107363274Yes. Kiara.
>>107365187>>107366906Nyara not Nyaru thats my bad. this retard is more hated than Shiori
Utada Zoey
>>107365858Finally the bipartisan healing can begin
>>107364379Lmao how much did you give to her?
>>107363274 obviously Nimi Nightmare
>>107365193No, but for a long time FWMC were fucking TERRIBLE in EN collabs that weren't Advent collabs. I can say they've gotten tolerable in the last month or two.
>>107367554Never heard of them
>>107363274Kirsche, people will bring her up for no reason just for (you)s.
>>107365898>>107366121>>107366240>she says that she will collab with whoever>acts parasocial and flirty with audience>”i’m ur goth gf”>”ew, parasocial stuff is gross” collabs with men>totally not manipulative and misleading at all>was completely honest…
Paizuri
>>107371190erm she hates alcohol
>>107371137I could take you a lot more seriously if your filenames didn't give away that you're the same weirdo from the other thread that has a BBW and blacked fetish folder on your iPad.
>>107371257It doesn’t change the fact that Shiori said that she was the audience’s “goth gf” in the debut, promising gfe content, then backpedals after enough of them bought merch and gives them the middle finger. It makes people feel like they can no longer trust a girl who promises gfe content, even from big companies, and that is why Vtubing is dying
>>107371257It’s the iPhone standard filename
>>107371424>phoneposterit make worse and obvious his intentions
>>107363274>"most hated">didn't get hard doxxed>hasn't gotten death threats with the address in it
>>107371424Yes anon, and it's sequential, I can pinpoint his posts just based on that.>>107371366Don't deflect from your weird fetish folders.
>>107371485Deflection, and only one person on /vt/ uses an iPhone apparently? kek, gimme a break>>107371366First address why Shiori lied to her audience in her debut, and then come back to me
>>107363274by far its the fish, jsut count the amount of anti threads made every day
>>107371560It doesn’t count if it just the same schizo who is angy that she left holoEN
>>107371556Everyone with an iphone is is within the same 20 filename SEQUENTIAL range?
>>107371656Didn’t answer my question, small weewee Mane-san
>>107371656godbless for phoneposters being so stupid to know how to change filenames
>>107371656>every6 posts lol, not even from the same thread
>>107371706It's even worse, the guy is unironically a Redditor from r/okbh
>>107371706idc, too much effort, why should I hide it? lol
>>107371729There's more if you really want me to go on a dive for posts from the past 2 months.
>>107371760>same s-team schizo pretending to have a convo with himselfogey
>>107371803do it idk, you are just goal post shifting about Shiori lying to her fans
>>107371656>>107371760typical psychological warfare bsthe s-team often makes shiori look even worse than she actually is, which is pretty bad
I hope her depression comes back
>>107371656itoddlers btfo
>>107364954>ClaraChuds hate her but who cares. She has Fishman and the rest of Phase's support
>>107372127It comes back once a year. Usually during the Spring going into Summer time.
>>107365504Hard to claim that when she has a bigger audience than all of phase put together tbdesu
>>107373370Holobuff. Without it she was a low two view.
>>107366402Because they are, unless you want to count bvtm as a sentient being, which is one hell of a stretch for him.
>>107371366>It doesn’t change the fact thatDamn, you're not supposed to ADMIT that. Jeez, anon, you're pathetic.
>>107373370Numbers from a brand name doesn’t equate talent, that would be like saying Doritos are better just because they sell more units than lesser known chip brands
>>107363742THIS
>>107363274https://files.catbox.moe/840hcp.mp4
>>107372022Anon nobody knows what the fuck an s-team is. You're fighting a war all by yourself >>107373490>Holobuff. Without it she was a low two view.There are phase members with the phase buff that are low 2views so I'm not sure what you're saying here, especially since you know that's not true.
>>107373767>comparing the phase brand name to a billion dollar corpolol lmao
>>107373831I mean they'd lose even compared to her PL so you really can't win here.
>>107373945Her PL was barely watched when she broke off to do her own thing and stopped doing ASMR, it was so bad she was ready to quit streaming all together.
Shall I elaborate on how pathetic it is to be part of a billion dollar corpo with endless resources and still get shit numbers?>Clara, solo stream from 7 months ago>Phase Connect27k views>Shiori, solo stream from today>Hololive, mega corpo21k views>Millie, solo stream from 1 month ago>Nijisanji, branch failing in the west26k views
>>107374071Klara got 18k views 2 weeks ago and she has under 90k subscribers, there is no excuse to be so bad if you have a huge brand name backing you
>>107373945she was an indie in the same era Phase came up in.we have seen exactly what she looks like without hololive. without the holo machine, she was a 2view. Put her in Phase, and she is a lower mid Phase girl. Put any of the Top 10 most known phase girls* into hololive, and they become super stars because they made it without a blue dorito backing them.*excluding pippa and mari because they do things the sleazy easy way they are shameful
>>107374071Anon are you retarded? You can't compare vod views from streams that happened months ago vs one that ended just a few hours ago.If we go by your logic I can just pull up>Clara>Phase connect (right after her birthday)7.6k views>Shiori >Hololive (Code Vein)73k views>Millie>Nijisanji (peak Collab)4.8k viewsIf you're going to numberfag, at least numberfag properly.
>>107373678wow...
>>107374071....PFFFF HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>107374190not wrong and it can be extended further than shiori. we have seen apples to apples comparisons with a lot of them to phase because they existed in the wild at the same time. we know what a lot of advent and justice looklike without hololive, and nearly all of them were worse off than phase connect and hadn't accomplished anything for themselves until the walmart of vtubing decided to pick them upit's easy when you have that kind of backing.
>>107366841Any online poll is compromised because of the rampancy of bots. You'd have to somehow conduct your poll during a live gathering like a con if you want it to mean anything.
>>107374190>she was an indie in the same era Phase came up in.Now THIS is disingenuous knowing what happened to her IP. But I guess that's just how it goes for phasebeggars
>>107375083Sanner...
>>107375083Even that won't work due to this being an online medium, a global one at that. All you're polling with those is the select group of people who could make it to a con on a specific day and time.
>>107375111You're still not refuting the pointThe point is most of Advent/Justice existed with Phase outside of hololive, and Phase was better off than them and their girls were way further ahead without any big advantage backing them. They got there on grit and grind and built something. A ready made well oiled machine did not make them.
>>107371656Are Shirori antis worse than Nimi antis? Granted, it'd be hard to beat posting your chode online to "own" someone, but saving even three extreme architect art images onto your iphone is a close leap.
>>107375083lmao Sana has more active fans than Shiori lolol
>>107374071It took 7 months for a phaser to scrape a few thousand more views than Shiori could in less than a day. Is this somehow a win?
>>107375083Even cons are a flawed way to do a poll like this since there's always going to be an over-representation of some fanbases simply due to location, ticket availability (in the case of ticketed cons) and just overall popularity outside of vtubing, it's like how there's a disproportionately large number of Kenzoku and Hoshiyomi during the Hololive expo.Location like I said also matters a lot, if you run this poll in Asia for example, you'll get one result, while if you run it in Europe or the US, you'll get another two different set of answers.
>>107374368>Milliethe Millie example I used wasn’t a collab, it was solo, anon
>>107375269As of that poll, Sana had more active fans than CC did.
>>107375305Under the holoEN name, they surely should get 50k per 1-2 hours
>>107373370>le holo is talented cuz numbersWhat were picrel's numbers like again?
>>107375314Fine, let's just use her papers please stream as an example with 4.4k views then.Cherry picking streams is easy and NOT the way you compare vod views.
>>107375333Well, CC’s fan don’t go outside
>>107374190put tenma, panko, lia, uruka, lumi, nitty, shiina, jelly in phase and watch what they becomeput shiori, gigi, nerissa, cece etc in phase back then, and phase is worse off than they are now
>itt one guy runs out of arguments and proceeds to fail at numberfagging
>>107375379Also not as comparable because CC came out a year after Shiori, meaning that Shiorin had an extra year but is still equivalent or less to her kouhai…
>>107375201Like I said, you're still being disingenuous.For one, saying that phase was "better off than t hem" depends how you define "phase."Because you're quite literally comparing the absolute top of phase to the "bottom" of holo. For example, Nasa is quite literally a founding member. She has 34,000 subs and her streams get less views than even NijiEN. Iori, Muyu, Runie? You could easily argue they're doing okay as streamers, but claiming that phase is making everyone "better off than them" is absurd.On top of that, Phase didn't even build itself from nothing. They were riding off of HoloEN's coattails with the warchest of a cryptobro. Meanwhile, notShiori actually grew from zero. HoloEN wasn't even a thing and nobody outside of the most hardcore weebs even knew what a vtuber was. And her old channel STILL has more subs than even Pippa despite being dead for nearly half a decade.
>>107375438If Shiori WERE in Phase, she would get less than 100 view streams
>>107375083Keep in mind the sympathy effect. Plenty were going to place a sticker on Gura but then felt sorry for another girl(IP). I'll bet some of those 3 sticker girls should have an empty box.
>>107375438I think you meant in holo for the first line, but point taken.
>>107375164Well having a poll /here/ would be counterproductive as well since it would only take into account 4chan users who happen to be on at the time the poll would be conducted, and carry with it the danger of some lose cannon botting the poll for whatever reason. Not to mention, as diverse as this site is, certain demographics are still over and underrepresented as shown during the April Fools event.
>>107375489>le Cuck Connect>the ntr girl would only get 10% of her numbers if she changed companiesYou just proved that Phase isn't the cuck viewer company, Holo Live is.
>>107375507This was a poll taken in Taiwan in 2024. Even with Gura constantly debuffing herself at that point, she was still too powerful of an entity.
>>107375459>CC’s last stream was 1hr 21min (2 hours ago)31k views>Shiori’s last stream was 2hr 54min (2 hours ago)29k views…Even her kouhai with less subscribers can easily rake in more views than her. Also, 1 year behind and without the Advent buff…
>>107363274From the top of my head:>Nimi>Gura/Saba>Mori >Ollie>Jurard>Pippa>Shondo>Sinder>Bao
>>107375472which old channel? she has three of them
>>107375657pathetic hahaha
>>10736374299% of the Nimi hate comes from one very obsessed person
Try and take your numbers comparisons to /#/ and see how well it goes.
>>107375657Another reading of this is that CC, even with the new gen buff, the autofister buff, and beloved by 4chan buff is close to pulling the numbers of a two year vtuber with like two major controversies under her belt. This also isn't a win.
>>107375661Most of those vtubers are only hated /here/. The only one who really qualifies off that list is Sinder, and Pippa a little bit.
>>107375730She streamed for half the time that Shiori did, and she is not new. If anything, in vtubing, viewership trickles back and favors the older gens because they are more familiar.
>>107375816You are supposed to gain a dedicated following if you stream for years under a company label, and if you are unable to, then it means you are doing something wrong. Especially with a big name like hololive.
>>107375472>Because you're quite literally comparing the absolute top of phase to the "bottom" of holo.i even said to remove Pippa and Mari from the equation. They have girls that have made a name for themselves all while being in the little corpo that could. they have gotten to do things quite literally only holos have done or the very top .1% of indies have done, and they got there as small corpo born and raised girls. so yeah imagine what they would do if hololive was backing them? Panko would be a mega star. Tenma would be a household name in the industry. lia would be stealing the show at every en concert hailed as dancing queen. uruka would be selling out violen concerts. lumi and rie would have albums. etc etc
>>107375898Nice cope phasecuck
>>107375898Holy fucking shit hahahahahahahahah
>>107363274Aside from collabing with faggots, what's she done wrong?
>>107376152piss of phaseniggers on /vt/
>>107375898A lot of those girls are bus drivers and have ambition. Shiori is a passenger. In her 3 years in holo what is her biggest thing she has done? be with Flayon?shit, even Phase girls got Flayon before Shiori did.
>>107376201This pretty much.
>>107376152She's fat.
>>107376222keep coping phasenig
>>107375784Hmm...true. Except I'd argue Mori is hated outside of /here/. There was a lot of xitter trannies upset over her singing the gachiakuta OP, saying she's racist, saying her music sucks, etc. It comes across as generic hate based on old Mori stuff
>>107376222kek
>>107376222LOL good analogy. She quite literally has zero goals, does the absolute bare minimum idol work, hardly participates in anything. She's basically doing what she did pre-holo, but tricked Cover management into thinking she wanted to be a holo idol
>>107376389Holy phasecuck seethe and samefag
>>107375898this is absolute cope and none of the girls you listed are anywhere near talented enough to reach the goals you just listed off. There is a reason none of them got into holo, I know Lumi talked about her application, dunno if the others like tenma or panko did but they would have been rejected just like lumi was, and rightfully so.
>>107376222game. blouses.
https://www.youtube.com/@MaliceDiary 6.41K subs she left this channel behind when she was hired by Eilenehttps://www.youtube.com/@OtakuMOE 430K subs technically not her channel and she didnt start from 0 but she is the one that put in the work to to rise it up but people coming to watch the ASMR vods didnt really translate to stream views on twitchhttps://www.youtube.com/@RavenManor 24.7K subs this is her own channel and where she directed people after leaving Eilenehttps://www.twitch.tv/natsumi_moe 65.9K followers this is her own twitch channel which she operated at the same time as she was Eilene and afterhttps://www.twitch.tv/malicediary 65 followers where she streamed before joined Eilene
>>107376435>the default, bug-like "samefag "phasecuck" deflection Naw, you're just a novelcuck faggot with a shit oshi. I'm a pebble and genuinely used to be subbed to shiori until she collabed with jurtard. Go fuck yourself and duck shiori for tainting Advent
>>107376566>hiding behind Bibookek phasecucks have no shame
>>107376566Phasenigger rolls world's shittiest falseflag, asked to leave /vt/
>>107376566I found this thread linked in /#/, I just came to make fun of (you)
>>107376602>>107376603>hating shiori is now "falseflagging phase niggers"Holy novelcuck cope
>>107363742No one but kayfab Unicorns give a shit about what's going on with her irl.
>>107376222Amazing Shiori has nothing outstanding going for her outside from her BRICK moment
>>107376661You outed yourself phasenig
>>107376698Outed myself how? Saying I hate Shiori? Who doesn't hate her other than homobeggars and novelkeks? Keep seething you delusional faggot kek
Uh oh phasenig melty
>>107376602>>107376603>>107376653least obvious novelshitter discord raid
>>107376834She mogs your phase whores in every way
>>107376452Lumi is infinitely more talented than Shiori, I am guessing she didn’t join holo simply because she can succeed without them
>>107376895Holy MELTY KEK
>>107376914I genuinely couldn't even name a single phaseshitter if I tried. Also, stop samefagging. It's getting pathetic
>>107376933Who?
>>107376991>stop samefagging. It's getting patheticIronic
>>107377024Need me to screenshot the (you)s? Or should you just kys now to save yourself the embarrassment
>>107376933And she would be...completely wrong, 3view shitter HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>107377071I could screenshot mine right now if you want.(Hint: it's two including this one)
i like shiori and my oshi likes shiori why am i supposed to be mad at shori again?
>>107363274I don't necessarily hate Shiori but she does sound like a classic mean girl.But I have nothing against her because while she does sound like an asshole, she doesn't sound the type to purposely antagonize you. She'd make a shitty comment at you but immediately forget about you the next minute kind of vibe.
>>107377109I dislike Shiori and my oshi doesn’t talk about her
>>107377109Literally who?
why so insecure phasefagscant you just be happy watching your 3view shitters from your little chair
>>107363274Ana ValensNyaraClaraRevKirschePippa
>>107377227Shifting the goal post and pointing fingers is the S-team specialty kek
>>107377311>RevDramatubers aren’t real vtubers, they are just human sock puppets lol
>>107377109because erm... she is a straight woman!! and do collab with men!!
>>107376933broksi not having a blue dorito next to their name isnt whats holding them back from getting big or popular, its because they are boring or have other huge glaring issues.for example Lumi's community makes watching her streams extremely painful. the constant shitty tts, the overwhelming groomer mod/old guard presence, and the amount of EU autists who follow her all drive away tons and tons of viewership. she got straight rejected from holo because she was a fucking mess in her cyberlive days and overall has made some very boring content more often than not.
>Everyone that hates shiori is a PHASEKEKNo, she's just one of the most hated holos ever. Fucking cope
>>107377160Anon she planned a whole event together with her mods to piss on her fanbase and turn them into a laughing stock. Sounds pretty antagonizing.
>>107363274Why do people hate Shiori now?Is it just because she simps for guys and she's obviously straight? That just means you have a chance with her I don't get the problem.
>>107377227>doesn’t pay talents (see Haachama)>is the epitome of a soulless corpo>skimps out on paying artists to buy stocks>girls get bullied but aren’t allowed to speak about it (see Haachama)>hates unicorns, but will gladly take their money>not political but dog whistles alt right /pol/ ppl>collabs are as stiff and boring as watching paint dry>promises edginess but never delivers bc it would upset the investors>etcHololive is just as bad as other corpos, I am not a huge fan of Phase either
>>107377422What you described might as well have been Shiori's PL and her current form
>>107377421>>107377486this thread is literally just one novelcuck pretending to be multiple anons.....sad
>>107377486>you have a chance with herAfter her manager, Stars boys, and the Hololive EN supervisor have all taken a turn
>>107377485Wait, I thought it was just a random rrrat?
>>107377566t.seethingsamefagging phasecuck
>>107377486>now
>>107377486They can have her, I have seen enough to stay as far away from her as possible.
>>107377605It is, do you REALLY think they'd give a shit what /vt/ says? The board would have probably gotten countless C&Ds by now considering cover's stance on slander.
>>107363274Do your reps, report and ignore bait, and love your Shiori! Ponty is a hack! Buy a Shiotdog! AND PREPARE THE ANCHOR POST BEFORE BAKING YOU POOPYHEAD BAKERShig it up!-Latest-Next Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc2K2dg1JLIPrevious Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwvchwT20O4Latest Short: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NLr6lnA1TbwLatest Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJgkNKSjstg【COVER】 Hyperventilation Dance / 過呼吸ダンス #歌ってみた : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjbbeyNKbfc【Cover MV】Confessions Of A Rotten Girl #歌ってみた : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6bT3hjIhug【Original MV】Genesis【The Story of Advent - Chapter 1】https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1A76PvsqD4 【Original MV】Prisoner【The Story of Advent - Chapter 2】https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDyrIDHAdDY -General Info-Schedule: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkqwIcO3YN8Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ShioriNovellaTwitter: https://twitter.com/shiorinovellaTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@shiorinovellaCovers Playlist:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQNcTNavhAOg78zZNEYFEQYXA02QOmlxM-Fun Stuff-All For One Dance Short: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z4XM2aCnWjoOrpheus Dance Short: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lxR7i8TyBosTwenty Little Novelites 【Shiori Novella Original】: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ7-bfAZ23Q?&t=755sDon't Lock Your Doors. Just Hide. She's Coming In.【An Inkwell Christmas Story】: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5WhwY1DFxgENReco Ending Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk29y0n9tBIInwell Christmas story (3DRepeat ver): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUK5vY533QQ-Projects-Snowed In 【Shiori Novella Visual Novel】: https://shiorinovella.itch.io/shiorivisualnovellaChristmas VRChat world: https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_20761ac2-c6d0-462d-9d6f-24145dcba26b/info-Merch-Friends With U Plushie: https://shop.hololivepro.com/products/hololivefriendswithu_shiorinovellahololive Noises! Voice Pack: https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hololive_noisesMore Merch: https://shop.hololivepro.com/collections/shiorinovella
>>107365212Shiori is only good with Zeta
>>107377618Someone's feewings got hurt they got called out for being a samefagging loser? Awww, poor, poor novelcuck
>>107377486Straight guys don't wanna watch male vtubers that act like complete faggots to appeal to female viewers, having a vtuber collab with those faggots forces us to endure those fruits, and tarnished the viewing experience.It's as simple as that, I don't care that some chick's talking to some guy, I care that some chick's talking to an effeminate twink whose every word makes me cringe.
>>107377486The biggest PhaseShill (BVTM) hate her for some reasonI guess Shiori is more entertaining than most PhaseGirls
>>107377715oh this makes sense now>>107377696
>>107377605More like than some evil villain plan it was that she was just scared of the consequences of her own actions and did let s-team do the dirty job to protect her
>>107377771His whole shtick is just calling everyone a samefag and if you call him out he just calls you s-team, he's unironically mindbroken, just stop giving him attention.
>>107377800Fair enough
>>107377771Yep this guy and his friend are mentally ill
>>107377847I still remember one time he went on a genuine feedback loop over the same argument until the thread reached bump limit.
Hello S-team
>>107377800>>107377847>samefag>friends with rando>mentally ill>”PEOPLE AREN’T ALLOWED TO HAVE OPINIONS THAT ARE CONTRARY TO MINE”lol, you silly, anon
>>107377605She setup a collab and labeled it as BRICK in her schedule and ignored any questions about it. The day before the collab she put up the frame, the chats were set to member only and her schedule room that normally was an open chat room was privated. Anyone asking questions about the collab and speaking their dislike for it were being banned in the comments and the chat. The collab itself was closely watched by managers including hers. After the collab she left a message calling herself "childlike and kind-hearted". Meanwhile, while long time fans were getting banned comments shitting on unicorns and her fans were left up and untouched by the mods. Here the shiggers and the Shiori thread was full people raiding them and calling them novelcucks. It became so bad that the result is they moved away from /vt/ for the tower.
>>107377942
>>107375889Are you agreeing with him?
>>107377984
>>107371458>vtuber has better opsec than me
Too bad we can't see unique posters ids anymore
>>107377715>>107377800>>107377847>>107377876yassss queens!~ we love shiori shiggerino here!~
>>107377969That makes sense why her numbers ain’t good, she fleeced off a lot of them by treating them like utter trash XD
>>107378196Holy mindbroken
>>107375359Then show us how to do it
>>107375459>not comparable>proceeds to compare them anyway
>>107378196kek this nigger is seething
>>107378303seethe harder lol
>>107378210>doesn't like what it saw in the mirror
>>107373678It's a shame that she can't be as open about it anymore. Imagine her cucking chat with a black man. Fucking him while she streams, her model bouncing up and down.Absolute cinema.
>>107377969Honestly high-minded concept streams like this are too good for the hololive audience.
>>107373678>https://files.catbox.moe/840hcp.mp4The fuck is wrong with novelites
>>107378196Thread not going the way you wanted huh
>>107378196Holy melty
Just know this thread was made by numberfags and is being bumped by them too
Once a better EN goth adjacent Vtuber comes out in hololive, everyone will forget about her
>>107378605Nah, numberfags were making fun of the retard numberfagging earlier.
>>107378605It's numbermonkeys and 2 novelcucks
>>107373678>https://files.catbox.moe/840hcp.mp4I can't stand her stupid voice. Someone give me a rundown.
>>107378205While I agree with you her numbers really havent changed. She benefits from streaming usually during times when no one else is streaming.
>>107378680She just thrashed two 3-person collabs with a sponsorship stream hahahahahahah
>>107378529Novelights* she hates them
>>107375898>so yeah imagine what they would do if hololive was backing them?anon they'd get terminated the instant they tried to pull out something racist or edgy, which is the main draw to Phase right now and the bulk of the jokes from the bigger members, even excluding Pippa. Above all else and the main reason Holo is so big is that they're brand safe. Panko and Tenma wouldn't last a month. Though I could easily see Lia, Uruka, and Lumi doing great at a Holo concert in a hypothetical world.
>>107377486whats with the retard(s) in this thread trying to rewrite history that no one hates, or has ever hated shiori /here/? nigger, are you new?
>>107378742>racist or edgyYou should watch a Shiori stream
I will just say I think the funniest part about this thread is the one guy equating lower numbers to being hated while also saying phase only has low numbers because they don't have a blue Dorito.Those two concepts are incompatible when you factor in that ID generally has even lower numbers.The fact that Shiori still manages 5k fairly frequently means that she's just not very popular, but not hated.Same goes for HoloID, not popular but also not hated.Same goes for (most of) Phase, not popular, but also not hated.Look at actual hated vtubers and their CCV is down the fucking gutter (mostly in the low 3 views) and any time you see anything regarding them it's because they got into some new drama.Making bait threads about someone on the daily on /vt/ does not make them hated, yes, that includes Saba and Ironmouse, do they have people that hate them? Yes, are they generally hated? Hell no.Same applies here, are there very vocal Shiori antis? Yes, are they a majority of people? Hell fucking no lmfao, drama spreads like wildfire and her "drama" lasted all of a few days before everyone moved in because she simply didn't engage in it.Anyway my tl;dr is that either everyone that isn't at the top is hated, or you agree that it's more nuanced and this thread is just astroturfing bait to make it seem like Shiori is actually hated way more than she actually is.
>>107378917>edgyShiori is yawn-inducingly vanilla
>>107378737>One of holo's biggest runts vs literal who shittersnta, but is this supposed to be impressive? without the holobuff, we all know shiori wouldnt even be on this list at all
>>107378737A bunch of Whos. Where are the Hololive members?
>>107378737Don't look at neuro's stream numbers...
>>107379008She is one to talk, she is very boring and egotistical
>>107379034Dang, Neuro-sama is way more popular lol
>>107378941This thread is advertising for her, its part of her marketing strat. Now look at these shoobies instead of writing a wall of text.
>>107377486If that's the case why do people hate ERB so much then?
>>107378737>1.5k likesPippa is botted?
>>107371458Whats the difference between a hard doxx and a soft doxx?
>>107377087Tribalfagging aside, that's actually pretty solid for someone outside of holo or the big twitch groups.Good for her. Still disappointed that you're trying to use her as a weapon though. You really aren't helping phase's rep when you do shit like this.
>>107379127>every Shiori hate thread>hey, look at tits and her model and forget her godawful personality
>>107379008>>107379009KWAB
>>107378941kind of agree with you but the alternative is she can very well be hated here and guess what, this place doesn't actually fucking matter and shes doing fine in spite of a bunch of people hating her.
All this talk about holobuff and not holobuff when people forget that she was legitimately a 2view vtuber who was on the edge of quitting because she wasn't getting enough tractionhttps://files.catbox.moe/by8w3h.mp4
>>107379128Because she didn't have sex with me
>>107379128>peopleI hate Shiori, and love ERB. The only ppl who dislike ERB are unicorns, probably
>>107379203its also funny cause Lumi cucks her audience just as hard, if not harder, than shiori does
>>107379325Phase doesn’t have the same kind of idol branding that Hololive does, they cater more to an indie-watching audience
>>107379256>whole personality and shtick is centered around NTR>"why am I not getting traction?"Only the JP side of vtubing likes NTR content. She was trying to gain a crowd with something most westerners hated.
>>107379256I hope that one day she fulfill her dream of becoming a school teacher after vtuber trend dies, gonna be grim after graduating from holo with her numbers
>unironic blacked posters >>107379244Makes sense. When you have lower than subhumans posters in a thread there's nothing you can really do to save it.
The real problem with Shiori was selling the idea of GFE for a whole year in 2023 through early 2024, then suddenly dropping the affection and community engagement slowly until it culminated in eliminating everything GFE related to finally collaborating with males. If her content right after she debuted was like ERB I wouldn't have a problem with her.
>>107379426but shiori likes blacked and ntr shit
>>107379236Her model is legit why some people watch her sometimes. Even if people don't like the personality they can still sex up the model.
>>107379402JP men like cucking, not being cucked, for the most part. Like, they like to be the old businessman cucking a young guy out of his fiancee and stuff.
>>107379200soft dox isn't either isn't actionable or is a few degrees from actionable while hard doxx contains stuff like legal names, addresses, locations, phone numbers, etc. that could be used to harass them directly. The line is very blurry though and both are bad
>>107379476The voice and personality don’t salvage the model.
>>107379426>Unironicholy novelcuck cope
>>107379256I do wonder why she joined Hololive. What made her take that route when she was ready to give up.
>>107379505Anon, that's not true at all and you know it.
>>107379450Yeah, ERB legit seems like a good, honest, hard-working person, and is talented, funny, and knowledgeable about nerd culture. Shiori is none of these things, you can’t even compare them.
>>107379450I'm just wondering why she waited so long to start collabing with males, when she knows it's a heated topic within Hololive specifically..? I don't watch her so maybe I'm very off about her personality, but she seems like the type that would of had a hours long members stream about it first and made sure her fanbase knew of her future collabs with them.
>>107379505Then explain why Rent a Girlfriend is so popular in Japan.
>>107379360meh
>>107379255That's kinda where my point was going.99% of the hate you see against her is on this board and we know for a fact the board is fucking dying (the fact that even /#/ a thread that hates everything agrees that the catalog is worthless and the fact that the only properly active threads are /pcg/ /lig/ and /#/ should tell you enough)Hell I still see a million more times the hate for Mori on the daily and I wouldn't call her "the most hated chuuba".Again, Shiori is by no means popular, but calling her the most hated because /vt/ keeps having the same bait thread with the same exact arguments every other day is just retarded, call me when you see the general public talking shit about her anytime she shows up.
>>107379128I know why people dislike ERB but I have nothing against her. I don't sense a shred of malice from her unlike Shiori.
>>107379620>the typeShe has always been a coward with a frail ego, she will hide anything that she is afraid of getting backlash about. She even changes her personality to fit what she thinks other people will like, she is peak pick-me and sycophant. Not a genuine human at all.
>>107379598Easy money, just like all the other girls.
>>107379236if only it were that easy, i'd still be subbed to her. instead, I actively avoid any content/streams with her in them. same with erb
>>107379656They want to be the fat bastard cucking the protag and making him cry.
>>107365088>election tourist>in 2025 /vt/Touch grass and realize that somebody on the internet might just have a different opinion than you.
>>107379661Phase is modern idolThe have a girl who will hardcore fujoshi and male collab, who will then execute one of the prettiest vtuber dances that has ever been recored
>>107379620Probably what she said on debut: It takes a while to trust new people, which is why she rarely collabbed with anybody outside of advent. She was always open about being fine with the stars and would talk about them or interactions at least every week or so. The only people claiming to be "betrayed" are the people who never actually watched a stream of hers.
>>107379614>this
>>107379700You're not even a phasefag. You're just a 2view roastie. Go back. The men are ragebaiting.
>>107379614ye i can't even be mad with erb, she is just a honest person
>>107379776>not trueShe said that she would be her viewers “goth gf” during her debut and gave them hugs and kisses afterwards for about 8 months.
>>107379620think about when she debuted and it makes more sense. it was right when the dumb and dumber stuff was going down. someone probably convinced her it was a good idea to not do homo collabs and then eventually someone (henma) convinced her it was a good idea to just do them since she wanted to do them anyway and there wouldn't be a huge impact on her numbers
>>107363945You can but it feels like a waste of time and energy imo. Might as well pretend that someone doesn't exist
>>107379695This. I'm a CGDCT-enjoyer, but I don't hate ERB. She made it clear on debut what kind of content to expect. I can respect that and I do. ERB also is a sweet auntie.
>>107379946this is such a load of shit. I fucking hate ERB and I'm indifferent to Shiori. Shiori gets to keep the homo stuff away from the girls who aren't interested. ERB brings up the homos with Nerissa every single chance she gets, that shit is not an accident.
>>107379946There is a reason that ERB still has an active following on /here/ and Shiori doesn’t.
>>107379620Considering the number of collabs she has with Jurard, all the projects she's done with him, showing up to his streams in chat, and the fact that her first ever male collab was with Jurard, it's pretty easy to see why she suddenly became very interested in collabing with males if it means she can be on screen with her "special friend"
>>107379873This and also >>107379776She did say it takes her a while to get to know people enough and her collabing with Holostars also lines up with her increasing the amount of collabs she does in general.In 2024 you could count the amount of non-advent collabs she would do every month on a single finger, just about a month before the homocollabs she started collabing a lot more outside of Advent to the point where she would basically have at least one collab a week instead of one every month, she even outright stated around the time that she had been pushing herself to collab more often.
>>107379868bruh
>>107379946>auntieB-But, I want a gf like ERB
>>107379995Oh, you're a jailbird. Well, I can understand why you'd hate ERB, but you should really be blaming Nerissa instead. She's a weak-minded, self-doubting idiot who likes anyone that gives her praise or doesn't question her shit choices. Nerissa also constantly brings up ERB
ERB is the kindest, most empathetic person in EN.
>>107379620You can read the more reasonable responses or you can read mine where I tell you she was getting bored and wanted to reach her sexual high and decided to carry out her NTR fetish like from her old days before Holo. She got that high and it was a good goon for a while but then it just was not as good anymore and she fell into depression and stopped streaming for about a month or more.
>>107380003If ERB actually collabed with other holotalents more often, I'd actually tune in. And no, I don't count Shiori, Iofi, or Ollie in that equation. I mean non-homo collabing talents.
>>107363274ironmouse zentreya mori calpis
>>107380261the reason she stopped streaming was because she was in japan and she never streams when shes in japan. she is obviously happier now than she was before the homo collabs, theres a reason shes going to stream more hours than fuwamoco this year.
>>107379995What makes you think Shiori does not try to bring the other girls into her collabs with the boys. Most of them just tell her to fuck off with that. Novelights used to think she would not raid into the stars from a collab with the girls and then she started doing just that.
>>107380585ERB is talking about the homos on screen with the other girls who are not homo collabers. Girls who that shit are actual scum. Shiori has never done that, if you don't want to talk about the homos then she doesn't bring it up. ERB can't respect that basic shit.
I don’t think the holoEN vibe check is always right.In real life, I have a keen intuition and have used it with recruiting others. >ERBgood, honest, humble despite being insanely talented, feels deeply for others, is respectful of others and herself>Shioriduplicitous, values her self-worth over most people’s/bordering on NPD, makes a show of what other people want to see: kindness purity honesty etc, has no respect for herself and others
>>107380004Filipinos stick together.
>>107380585She tried to bring Bijou into the male collabs (it was scheduled and everything), then bullied her on the next Advent collab stream because she dipped
>>107380578There was a period leading up to the Japan trip where her streaming was coming to a crawl and then a stop because she got hit with depression after all her collabing. She return to normal after the trip was over.
>>107380585She avoids even mentioning that she has a stream than involves them when she's collabing with other girls and they discuss what upcoming streams they have.Not even a vague "I have a Collab coming up" or anything, just finds something else from her schedule or something Advent related to advertise instead.She knows that the rest of the girls want nothing to do with the homos and respects that boundary.
>>107380619Considering Shiori has shown she wants to call herself "childlike and kind-hearted" without actually proving it through her actions, I can see Shiori having NPD
>>107380611>>107380710You can say that now but wait>two more weeksremember, eventually she will start bringing them up
>>107380815its been like 9 months, she hasn't done it once. ERB always fucking does it whenever she has the chance. She is full on into the holo pro shit while Shiori wants to do collabs with them but respects that most girls don't want to do that shit.
>>107380805She obviously has a very fragile ego. I personally would never be friends with someone like that or trust them in real life.
>>107380864>respectsShe made a joke about Biboo being a whore during an Advent stream because she didn’t join in. Bullying is pressuring someone who doesn’t give into your demands.
>>107380864there always seems to be this thing where people assume Shiori won't do something for whatever reason and then she ends up doing it
>>107379544Well then Shiori is lucky the people that found her are not sharing the info
>>107380950do you have the stream or a timestamp for it?
>>107381387I think anon was talking about this momenthttps://youtu.be/n_EBgflzOMQ?t=5483Shiori was implying Biboo was rejected before after asking for someone's number.
>>107380864ERB has at most like 2 incidents, one of which wasn't even her fault. You have the one with Nerissa last year, and the one from holoday where Nerissa asked her what she was drawing and she just said it was for her collab later with the homos and girls and then they just moved on from the topic.
Shiori won't even break the top 10 of hated vtubers if you consider the number of grifters throwing google docs at each other and the whole NijiEn fiasco.
