Trash and Garbage seek company.

hololive pick me's trying anything to get mass market appeal

>>107374355
do holo execs realize western events like this are eternally mocked by the target audience and its pretty much only possible to have a negative appearance?

>>107374355
>shiori
no thanks

>>107374643
yeah i dont think they thought this through
attaching hololive is going to mean asmongold and a bunch of other streamers making fun of the anime girls faking excitement for shitty games

>>107374355
What a dogshit line up holy fuck, only two worth watching there are Biboo and Cici

>All ID and EN
Is JPs english really that trash? They got like 10 generations to pick from.

Also, fuck the TGA.

>>107374643
I doubt it. The concept that people are streaming it to make fun of the event itself for 90% of it is probably not even a thought to them. It's kinda wild how Geoff managed to kill all the credibility the show might have had just because he took Naughty dog's paychecks and won't stop sucking off Kojima.

>>107374355
This gotta mean something right? They gotta make Mikochi win this thing just so we could see the Rabbit seethe so hard kek

>>107374790
>only two worth watching there are Biboo and Ollie
Fixed that for you.

>>107374758
it would make more sense to take a handful of them with actual interest in games and just do a sponsored watchalong on the front page of twitch

Reddit 33 victory. Almost all of them played Reddit 33.

>>107374790
>Cici

wee I can't wait bet it will be fun

>>107374758
Only if they make an appearance at the main show itself, they aren't gonna go searching for tie-in streams, and even Asmon would have the common knowledge to know they're just employees being paid to do a job, and just wave it off as corporate shit like doritos or mountain dew.

>>107374949
The Dorito Pope literally never lived it down and people only "forgot" because new kids aged in who never knew about it

>>107374887
That and Silk Song, the rest are
>Obligatory Kojima game
>Obligatory Nintendo Slop
>Hades 2
>Kingdom Come 2
Really not that tough of a decision the other 4 are just there to fill out the numbers.

>>107374355
>Slop partners with slop
WOW

>>107374355
>Zero homostars
At least they got one thing right.

>>107374643
Not really.
The whole point is to desensitize the audience to them.
Vshojo and the larger indies have done a decent job softening views on vtubers as a whole, but Holo needs to make moves too if they want Vtubing to be considered normal in the west within the next decade.

They can't just keep relying on mouse, doki, etc. to run PR for vtubers.

>>107374643
It's fucking unbelievable how quickly they're driving their brand into the ground. How is this even possible?

>>107374355
Ahh, so they are rigging the whole content creator award after all. They knew they had no chance otherwise.

>>107375322
yeah this is a problem if a holo vtuber ''magically'' wins this year its going to cause a riot, people already call these shows rigged

>>107375322
The entire award show is rigged, does this really surprise you??
Just look at their jury roster, the entire show has always been a joke.
https://thegameawards.com/voting-jury

>>107374798
TLOU2 win GOTY really made him lose all credibility he used to have

>>107375470
when astroboy won i knew it was rigged as fucked

>>107375470
He was a canadian gaming "journalist" before looting Spike TV's corpse to create this trash, he didn't have any credibility to begin with.

>>107375566
What's wrong with astrobot?

>>107375571
Nah before the LOU stuff in the midst of all Naughty Dog's malpractices coming to light, the game awards were still something you didn't think was completely rigged. Like there was enough reps during the time that it made sense enough.

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>>107374355
sasuga kojima-san

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WHERE IS MY OSHI, GEOFF?

>>107375384
It isn't gonna cause shit, everyone already assumes those shows are rigged so that's just confirmation of what everyone already knows, that's not riot stuff

>>107374355
They also partnered with Nijisanji. Multiple EN members are doing co-streams

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I'll watch Anya and Reine. That's it.

>>107374643
Hololive has soulless reps / marketing managers what do you think. It is a match made in heaven Hololive has become such a shit show.

>>107374355
no JP, don't care. Enjoy your slop, sharts

>>107374355
This thread reeks of estrogen

>>107375434
>India
>Taiwan

>>107374758
Asmongold doing a react and saying things? Kek Idgaf what asmon does or says. Why are you so sensitive? LMAO

miko is gonna win and her clique will be stronger than ever

>>107376183
They're a hasanfan

>>107374643
>do holo execs realize western events like this are eternally mocked by the target audience and its pretty much only possible to have a negative appearance?
No, the Japanese companies have no idea how much these award shows are hated by anime, game, and vtuber fans. Yagoo is clueless but compared to how much Cover wastes on HoloEarth it's a drop in the bucket. Hololive will still get mocked by Twitch streamers but they might get some new fans who haven't heard of vtubers.

>>107374643
Hololive is soulless

>>107375021
Would be kino if Hades 2 won

>>107374355
for a second I thought no JP would be sharing their comments live

Ohhh yeah Geoff, put the HoloEarth trailer in there!
Please ignore old man manslaughter there, we just forgot to take him off the trailer

>>107374643
Japan in general has no clue what westerners actually think about the shit that gets pushed here, all they see is the propaganda and think everyone in the west is in support of it, they don't delve into the drama.
Korone played hogwarts legacy a couple months back and was oblivious to the freaks that were STILL trying to boycott it years after its release, and didn't get why the faggots were getting so upset.

>>107375434
>Mexico has more representation than Japan
Nuts

>>107374355
how embarrassing. i know cover's financials haven't been great lately, but to buddy up with dorito pope right after buddying up with the dog abuse platform, it's just one one L after another.
i think they have have taken the "dorito" meme a little too seriously.

>>107374848
>Ollie
lmao

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>>107374355

>>107374355
So obvious that Yagoo has been buying nominations since Pego last year. Who the fuck cares about Hololive outside of Japan?

>>107376504
2 of Canada's 5 are legit government funded mouth pieces, even the US and UK avoided that shit.

>>107376982
considering that Hololive is THE most popular corpo in en, I would say a lot of people do

>>107374355
>shiori
hard pass

>>107374355
is geoff move on from kojima and suck yagoo dick now?

>>107375607
It's not the sort of game modern Sony highlights and didn't have much presence before the award. Most common speculation is that it was supposed to go to Concord, but when the servers were shut down a mere two weeks after release, it went to the other Sony publshed game that year since the deal was already in place.

>>107374355
>Mostly IDs and a few ENs
>Not even the good ENs
Pass lol

>>107378443
and who would you even consider to be good ens?
Biboo and CC are there after all

>>107374355
>sponsoring the same awards show your talent is nominated in
conflict of interest doko?

>>107377310
it's all yagoo pushing for this.

https://x.com/octavio_holo/status/1997131009322848703

>>107377491
You know how retarded this sounds when you remember that both horizon games didn't win, the only series that Sony has invested a metric fuckton of cash into trying to make it a popular IP. If they're happy pump money into a movie, animated series, comics, lego game, mmo and a bunch of other collabs then why wouldn't they have bribed Geoff to make both of those GOTY?

Astrobot won because it was a weak year, the only acceptable conspiracy theory with Geoff is wondering how GOW won over RDR2

>>107379070
God that douchebag who voices Kratos becoming a meme guest sucks. Geoff keeps inviting him back too.

>>107374355
I can't decide who I hate more, Geoff Keighley or Holoniggers

>>107374355
>had to pay to get authorization to do something that non-corpos can already do for free
kek dumbass

>>107378497
he forgot most of the old ones graduated

>>107374758
they're co-streaming, not at the actual awards

>>107374798
All award shows are jokes where whoever is in charge hands out awards to their friends, idols or co-workers. The only reason traditional awards like the Emmys and the Oscars are "respected" is because Boomers and filmfags think you should, largely because that media itself foisted that opinion incessantly upon the public back in the day and now they all believe it.

>>107374798
>Naughty dog's paychecks and won't stop sucking off Kojima
It's Sony he's getting paid by and sucking off, but the end result is the same yeah. Fucking Astrobot & TLOU GOTY kek

This shit feels so transparent, it's honestly insulting. Like we get it, yagoo wants normie boomers to what vtubing idols are. Does he expect them to care?

PM=PeanutMiko ?

>>107374355
I don't see what's so wrong with this. If people end up enjoying it then it worked out.

>>107380944
No one has any respect or faith in the TGA.

>>107374643
>>107374758
>>107375961
>>107379176
Retarded, samefagging, or too lazy to read this is just a sponsored watchalong, which one are you?

>>107378497
>and who would you even consider to be good ens?
He's probably an asshurt SNOfag with sour grapes lol

>>107381034
Wow, what an awful post.

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>>107375623
You put her in your game and she still lost to fuckin CASEOH ! you don't deserve her

>>107378443
>Mostly IDs and a few ENs
>6 ID and 6 EN

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>Shiori
yes please

>Shiori
Hard press

>>107375434
Why are China and Hong Kong counted separately? Isn't that the capital of the fuckin country?

>>107381450
>Bae & Cici
>EN
kek

>>107381727
What Xhe mean by this?

>>107381204
He wants to be part of kojima's friends list so bad.

will Watch CC stream. She cute n Funny.

>>107374790
>>107378497
>>107382445
I'm callin samefag on the shit.

>>107382553
not really. its my first post in this thread. I just like her. Its that simple. Apperently the others aswell.

>everything I don’t like is samefagging
Shall not be watching homo collabers, sorry.

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>>107374790
>Cici

>>107374643
>>107374758
Companies pay Hololive and think that this is the gold mine, not the other way around.
And like with any collaborator, they grossly overestimate the amount of chuuba fans that actually play vidya.

>>107382976
yeah i was about to write something about that but decided to not to. Everybody who watches her knows she hates it when its spelled that way.

>>107374355
Kronii, Kiara, Kaela don't participate in bullshit like this and that's why they are the only good talent hololive has left.

>>107383131
>kaela
Idunno, I'd put all her sponsored e-sports watchalongs as below this.

>>107381204
lmao, Geoff has literally nothing to do with Hololive's business unless he's going to start promoting holoindie games

>>107383131
A miserable depression dyke, Myth's second biggest and EN's overall top 5 biggest shill, and Kaela who unlike the other 2 has the excuse of being in charge of indie title promotions which wouldn't gel with something like TGA.

>>107375607
Nothing, Astrobot deserved to win over forgettable chinese souls slop. One of the few times a show like the game awards served its purpose, which is informing parents what to buy their kids for Christmas.

>>107383498
Yep, totally earned, definitely had nothing to do with half the US juror publications running an endless smear campaign against Wukong, even stooping to baseless sexism and racism allegations to further black ball it.

>>107383584
Wukong was a bad, boring game and everyone has already forgotten about it less than a year later
The actual reason Astrobot won is because it's the only game on the PS5 and Sonyshills run the industry

>>107375220
>The whole point is to desensitize the audience to them.
And you think guwa singing "take me out to the ballgame" at a stadium filled with baseball boomers is helping?

>>107383584
Wukong just got sexism allegations.
It was Stellar Blade's team that got both the sexism AND racism accusations thrown at them for a simple spot of stock graffiti.

>>107383708
>Wukong was a bad
SEA hands or Troon claws typed this.

>>107383778
Yes, actually.

Though they were 100% retarded for using the stupid rhombus face cardboard model instead of making it 3D if it was going to be prerecorded anyways.

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>>107375220
>Vshojo and the larger indies have done a decent job softening views on vtubers as a whole,
This is the state of this board.
Newfags retards genuinely believe hololive need vshojo/indies.
They didn't even know that vtuber become popular in west because of hololive.

>>107383822
Yagoo needs to focus more his main demographic and stop flying into the sun by aiming for the normie audience. The granblue fes appearance was a major lack of foresight since it alienated granblue and holo fans.

>>107376211
>miko clique
I saw this crap crop up when Haachama had her crash out. What is it?
t.EN Fag

>>107376504
Japan is pretty much snubbed from TGA, even though they produce so many games.
It happens enough times that you can see it's intentional.

>>107383340
>he's going to start promoting holoindie games
don't be surprised if holocure ends up in best indie games category next year.

>>107384081
Not like their biggest developers are actually japanese anymore, Square/Capcom/Bamco all drank the kool-aid and abandoned their roots.

>>107384116
the game would need to be finished first lol and it won't happen next year if at all

>>107374355
>All the ID browns and Shiori
Nah. Going to pass! Don’t like em.

>>107375220
>All of this pathetic show is just Phaseniggers and Liggers mad that they were not invited
Is this going to be the state of things everytime HoloEN gets any collab?

Dafuq is this thread full of people malding lmao, literally every single streamer that plays games will be watching the TGA is not that big of a deal

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>>107374355
>My boiz got left behind again...

>>107383974
The main demographic is saturated as fuck and not growing. They need to reach out farther if they want the members to stop cannibalizing each other.
>>107384035
Generic anti shit that they started using after the GURRAT and elira's clique stuff happened. They continue by equating Elira to Fubuki.

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>>107384332
No you don't understand "no gura no buy" didn't prevent Kiara and Ina from selling out instantly
But this. This will be the thing that kills hololive in 2 weeks.

>>107384332
It's not just TGA everytime something minimally good happens to Hololive there is a catalog threadshitter going
>They really did it huh I can't believe it but it happened oh my God this is absurd how could it happen
>
>WHY ISN'T MY OSHI THERE YOU FUCKING CHUDS FUCK FUCK FUCK SHIT FUCK

>>107384332
I think there's a lot of people who literally don't watch anything but Vtubers for livestreams.

>>107384170
Oh god, don't remind me of that.
Square recently went through a purge on the western side of things. I want to believe it's a good sign, but this is Square we are talking about.

>>107374793
Haachama is out of commission
Kanata is graduating

Evveryone else speaks Engrish at best. And yes I say this of Subaru and Korone

>>107374643
Hololive is already largely mocked by the target audience, so it doesn't matter, but they're getting paid. and they'll be probably the only streamers who will have generally positive atmospheres during the stream, which will separate them from the rest of the crowd and might draw in some who are tired of the negativity. Also probably a fuckton of holofans dont even watch TGA, i know I dont, so its just generally extra viewers, even if they are laughing.

>>107384289
People were fine-ish with the original Dodgers collab, the second one got shit because 1) Horrible choice of talents to do it and 2) The gura hurt was still brand new.
And their twitch collab had probably been in the works for a year, they just decided to announce it at a HORRIBLE time after all the drama on the platform was going on, adding on to its already poor reputation towards vtubers.

Seriously what were they thinking with Irys for the dodgers shit?? Anyone with entry level EN knowledge would know theres nothing the girls love more than shitting on her complete lack of athletic prowess.

>>107383820
It was bad and only China liked it and even they dumped it for better, superior Chinese games

>>107384261
Retard

>>107384335
It’s okay, they are busy elsewhere >>107371866

>>107384436
>Square recently went through a purge on the western side of things
They sure did, but made no mention of sacking that in-house "ethics committee" who had employees more than happy to brag about censoring shit on their end.

>>107374793
>>107384442
I imagine the JP talents cover Japan's own Game of the Year awards. Famitsu does it, for example.

>>107384457
But it's the same with EVERYTHING
>The Sushiro collab got seethe
>FWMC's McDonalds collab got seethe
>Code Geass? Machine translated seethe
>AX? Seethe
>AFO? Seethe

How do people not get tired of this, it's not even that of a big deal save for Sushiro and Dodgers, at this point it's like getting mad for 250 extra dollars on their pocket

>>107384463
Sure thing, SEAtroon.

>>107374355
that is a fucking bleak lineup my god lol

>>107384556
I'm not even Asian. Is this proof that it's mostly Chinamen seething at SEA? Why would you assume it's SEA and not the west like the rest of us on /v/?

>>107384544
>>FWMC's McDonalds collab got seethe
People freaked the fuck out when McD's dared to show a happy family simply eating a meal together...

>>107374643
Holo EN has leftist in the exec position or they dont know what they're doing. Look at what they've done with the twitch partnership and now the lefty's game award partnership

Whoever's informing the decision making process for EN needs to be fired.

>>107374643
if the holo execs can't figure out that overworking their talents causes them to burnout and quit, they sure as shit can't figure this out

>>107384596
...what the fuck are you talking about

>>107384594
>Why would you assume it's SEA and not the west like the rest of us on /v/?
See that's the point where you show everyone you're taking the piss.

>>107384596
Remember when they instantly banned people trying to turn this board into /pol/?

>>107384676
No one gives a fuck about SEA, even the original guy here >>107383584 pointed out it was almost all Americans and Euros shitting on Wukong because they didn't believe a non-Western game could get good sales
Randomly bringing up SEA outs you as either SEA or Chinese overestimating their importance

>NOOOOO you see this idea is bad because the girls will be reacting to v-video games the thing that makes more than half of their content
>They should actually stream some kusoge while losing viewers to vtuber that can actually show the TGA on screen

>>107384742
Both posts are mine twinkle tits, and notice I never stopped calling you a troon either, to make sure I was covering both of the most likely angles.
You're either a SEAmonkey who just blindly hates anything chinese out of national obligation, or a 42%er who hates the country for it's anti rainbow cult stance to have the snipped off balls to give an absolute shit take that Wukong is a bad game undeserving of any recognition.

>>107384900
>only SEA or troons can dislike Wukong
So I was right, you're just Chinese and offended that someone couldn't like your game
Even Hogwarts Legacy is a better game

>>107384958
>Even Hogwarts Legacy is a better game
Yep, takin the piss.

>>107384332
judges control 90% of the voting power, and the judges are from politically left organizations whose goal is to promote their political will

>>107385003
I'm just saying. If Wukong was a good game then almost every Holo other than Shiori wouldn't have dropped it because it's repetitive and boring slop. Even Biboo dropped it and she loves the genre.
Next time don't get mad and start melting down because someone doesn't like your derivative souls clone - there are many better ones out there.

>>107385003
nta and western, but wukong is mid af to both watch and play, any of the other souls games are better. Makes sense since the lore behind it is heavily chinese focused, doesn't resonate with a western audience.

>>107385480
It didn't help that Wukong was the go-to reference to appeal to Chinese players and "educate" Western ones for several years beforehand. There was zero novelty left to squeeze out of it. Dynasty Warriors was way better about this.

>>107385480
>Makes sense since the lore behind it is heavily chinese focused, doesn't resonate with a western audience
Better excuse than >>107385059 my oshi didn't finish it therefor it sucks.
The amount of horror games talents like Bae and Kiara have given up on halfway through would render the entire genre unplayable.

>>107381693
Holy retard

>>107385733
>The amount of horror games talents like Bae and Kiara have given up
She likes them but Kiara is literally a chicken

>>107381693
Something something considered a seperate thing for buisness reasons something something HK protested re-integration with china.

>>107385480
Dynasty warriors sells like hotcakes whenever they release a title and every single game is set in ancient China.
That's like saying Prince of Persia never would've gotten a dozen games cause westerners had no interest in that sand heap.

>>107374793
Ririkas english is great

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>>107385894

Just because Dynasty warriors and the big figures in 3 kingdoms era history are known to some gamers doesn't change that the whole wukong story (journey to the south or something?) is fucking unknown and stupid to a western audience. A fucking monkeys is the protag after all. a fucking monkey.

>>107386041
It’s literally fucking DRAGON BALL.

>>107386041
Any weeb who claims to enjoy or be a fan of DB would know that story.

>>107386084
>>107386089
Naruto too.

>>107374355
Migo Woner

>>107374355
no wonder there was so many holo picks.

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>>107374355
Geoff taking hololive money then making them watch burntpeanut snatch the streamer of the year from Miko.

>>107386257
You really think this astroturfed ass peanut is winning over the astroturfed nigga?

>>107384544
You realize that internet culture used to be subversive and edgy. Shilling for corpos while PR'd to the gills really doesn't resonate with me, it's alienating.

>>107374355
So, If miko wins her category it will be obvious they bought or got payed with the award. Not a great look.

>>107386257
Watching a peanut mogg Miko, Midget Jesus, and whichever one of the screaming porch monkeys Kai is would be hilarious.

>>107384595
You begin to realize that these 4chan freaks are mentally broken and will never have families of their own.

>>107374355
who the fuck even are these people, the only name I recognize is Calliope Mori

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>>107386356
>payed

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>>107374355
Today I will remind you the very first loser of TGA pekora

>>107386924
>no refutation
so you agree that if miko wins it's confirmed that cover bought the award?

>>107387441
>>107387382

>>107374355
Isn't this a conflict of interest

>>107387687
Good, you agree. Cover lost last year with Pekora so they bought the award this year with Miko. Payment was exposure through streaming, pushing more eyeballs onto the award show.
The only way for them to not look bad is if Miko does not win.

>>107383968
neck yourself, inbred tribalist.

What makes Miko so popular anyway? Is it just cause she sounds like every word she says is gibberish?
I feel I see way more content focusing on Subaru, Pekora, Marine, Azki, Korone and the two new gens for JP's side, or a few of ID's girl and I don't watch any of them so I don't know why my recommendations would be more targeted towards them.

>>107388014
she's more famous in jp and taiwan sides really her popularity in west is kinda low compare to other jps now

>>107374355
Nice, i guess i'll watch the event on GGs channel.

>>107377191
Emiru alone is bigger than the entirety of HoloEN. You're boasting about being a guppy in the ocean.

>>107386332
yeah maybe 20 years ago nigga, stop the LARP

Holoshits really still believe they're popular and liked for some reason.

>>107388955
Speaking of that how did her content drama farming end? Was she able to out emotionally manipulate the quorum or was Mizkifs arguments won?

>>107388970
More like five, yeah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HIBDGni1-o

>>107389052
>Mizkifs arguments
Idiot's only argument was that she threw a Kirby plushy at him once, had an entire slew of videos, and other creators showing what a piece of shit he is working against him.
Hard to defend yourself when you yourself go on camera and admit to your own viewers you're a roided up chimp with control issues.

>>107374643
the westerners they have in staff and management are silicone valley Californians still stuck living in the past. Out of touch

>>107389273
>Californians still stuck living in the past. Out of touch
I never once lived in any sort of past those freaks envisioned, unless you're talking about the mis-assessment of their own self-worth and celebrity influence.
Those loons are off on a totally different planet with the shit they're still trying to push to this day.

>>107388955
that's not even true though and nice whataboutism

kek, I bet /v/ are pissed.

>>107389250
I see, so she really got away scott free because of that retarded chimp

>>107391199
His fucked up eyebrows alone are enough to convict him.

>>107386084
>>107386089
>Dragon Ball
lol, Toriyama only took the name of the characters and some traits from them and called a day. The rest of the story is completely different

>>107385480
>since the lore behind it is heavily chinese focused
This is the main reason, imho. The chinese still make their media too "chinese" for everyone's taste. They still have not found the formula to make their products have international appeal.
Same shit with the movie Ne Zha 2, with it being the most watched movie this year, but only by them. No one else gave a fuck about it outside China.

I will watch saba's stream

>>107374643
dumb nerd with a persecution complex

>>107374355
i hope to god this doesn’t mean that they’ll show holoearth in tga to save it from dying further
unless they’ve been cooking with a 2.0 and actually have a game to show (like with ffxiv arr)

>>107374355
>>107374406
>>107374456
>>107374643
uh oh ironlung melty

>>107374643
no, japs are so insular they do not know about anything happening outside major political stuff

>>107374758
>Muh asmongoloid
He knows about hololive and vtuber retard

>>107374793
only ririka could keep up with english and jp autism does not allow them to go by lacking english skills

>>107374643
It's not an appearance. Anyone can co-stream the event.

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>>107374643
holy samefagging schizo, you dont even try to sound like it is a different person

>>107374355
nice hopefully babydollfister are watching it together i dont wanna have to pick

>>107374355
People like to complain about the easy targets but realy? Reine?
She is the most boring woman in the whole company aside from HAHA FUJO HAHA IM GAY

>>107374355
So, are they rigging it for Miko?

>>107395806
Kobo will be serving the whole Jury AT ONCE

>>107374643
4chan isn't the real world you know? Normies see award and clap